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Heating systems are technology and the winter is coming. So /g/,

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Heating systems are technology and the winter is coming. So /g/, what is the most efficient heating system?
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come on /g/onsumerists.
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>>51411082
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>>51411082
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>>51411082
Stellar pressure fusion
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>>51411082
Pretty much modern central heating - be it wood pellets, oil, gas, ... - augmented by heat exchangers (drawing heat from ground is better than from the air, but either helps).

Oh sure, you can also convert electricity to heat with nearly 100% efficiency, but that has its inefficiency long before it gets to your house... and you'll feel dat electricity bill.

PS: Insulation first.
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>>51411220
Are you retarded. That shit is super cool
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>>51411082
Heating is easy, anon. Unless you're poor and can't afford wood/gas/electricity.
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Probably a room full of pentium 4 machines and a cluster of FERMI's mining Altcoins
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>>51411220
I know they look similar but its the 390x that's the house fire, silly anon.
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>>51411280
Maybe you also are more poor if you have some shitty inefficient basic wood / gas / electricity heating system installed, though.

Usually means that you didn't manage to pay the up-front cost of more efficiency.
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>>51411082
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>>51411082
Heat pumps. Classic thermodynamics.
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>>51411358
390x and R9 Fury both have TDP of 275 watts.
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>>51411274
>275 watt TDP
>super cool
>vs nVidia's flagship Titan at 250 watt TDP

No anon, you're the retard.
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>>51411082
cuddling with my girl in bed
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>>51411407
NO you are
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>>51411082
This is not an heating system, retard
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>>51411482
A radiator is a small scale heating system you massive retard. That's like saying raspberry pies are computing devices.
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>>51411443
one might say... your best gal..?
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>>51411223
that's actually a pretty cool running card silly anon
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>>51411082
Anon that's no heating system kek... That's a radiator
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>>51411381
Good, but possibly too high an investment cost if done alone for one house and as standalone heating system.

Some places will require a lot of bureaucracy to allow any deeper probe into the ground, and heat pumps are certainly more interesting with ground probes than on environmental air because they have much higher efficiency due to the bigger temperature differential.

Realistically, not going so deep with the heat pipe is often simpler and cheaper for individual households, but then you typically "only" meet 50-90% or so of your heating needs - you'll run an oil / gas / wood / solar / (...) heating for the rest.

It's still going to be an investment, but so is any decent heating. Pic semi-related - neat high efficiency pellet heating.
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>>51411729
>pellet
Woops, meant regular firewood. The other model is pellet.
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>>51411274
GPU temp doesn't matter with room heating, only the amount of watts it draws.
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I just load up a large game of civ in the information era I have saved and I turn the CPU and GPU fans off.
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>>51411763
>and I turn the CPU and GPU fans off.
Why would you turn them off if you want to heat your room?
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>>51411407
>actually believing nvidia's reported max TDP
No, Anon, you're the retard.
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>>51411449
wanna fight?
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>>51411777
Shit, you mean I've been doing it wrong the entire time?
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>>51411783
Evidence that it's inaccurate?
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>>51411793
If a CPU draws 50 watts, you have a 50 watt heater.
Removing your fan isn't going to change that.
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>>51411807
I think you've got this backwards, Anon. Do you have any proof that it is accurate?
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>>51411843
I provided evidence that nvidia flagship GPU uses less power than AMD flagship. You made the claim that nvidia is lying, therefore you have to provide evidence of your claim. Otherwise you're only blowing smoke up your own ass.
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>>51411622
>automobile radiator
>heating device
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>>51411082
muh titan x SLI
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I use one of these in my shop.
>keeps me toasty 9/10
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>>51411082
>oneplus one (or two)
My oneplus one once got 80°c cpu temp caused by an empty javascript infinite while loop.
It has no fans.
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this.

Running both gpus and cpus pulls out 1100w. Usually running just cpus works though and its less loud.
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>>51412166
>empty javascript infinite while loop.
Surprises me greatly that modern Web browsers don't protect against this, to the point where I'm inclined to call bullshit. You're either over simplifying it or you're making a wild guess as to what happened.
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>>51412228
>function never returned anything to console.
>Console froze
while(!ref.value.done){}

ref is an object returned by a callback after a certain amount of time and ref.value.done is true when the callback has fired.
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Xeon Phi
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>>51412228
>wild fucking guess
The console froze.
How the hell do i debug that instead of simplifying and studying the results?
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The one's with liquid cooling are especially toasty.
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>>51412266
Then it's not empty, is it?
>>51412291
So in other words your saying you don't know how to find the problem therefore baseless conjecture?
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>>51412559
The {} is empty.
try to explain the crashing of the console by executing that single loop if it isn't an infinite loop.
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>>51412071
You don't prove negative claims, you prove positive ones. The burden of proof lies with you. Please provide proof that the numbers provided by Nvidia are correct.
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>>51411082
winter is here and i have no wood. it has froze everynight for a week and a half. IM FUCKING COLD.
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>>51412663
go wilderness Alaska and burn your own poop.
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>>51412105
>doesn't know what a heater core is, and that it's the same thing.

>failed latin, can't into understand radiator.
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>>51411082
A couple well placed Pentium 4 boxes running benchmarks should do the trick.
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>>51412663
Moar insulation. Your body produces like 200W of heat. Your cooking place probably also adds like 2kW when it's being used. Maybe you also get some warmth from appliances.

Probably not enough for the whole house, but easily enough for a decently insulated room.
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>>51412175
the fuck am i looking at
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>>51413110 (cont'd)
If you can, build a modest house to like German / Swiss low energy standards and you should actually even be quite fine without any or barely any kind of extra heating (thermal pump, solar water heating, ...).

If you can't afford it and are like in the USA, you'll have to build a more winter-ready small insulated (probably mostly wooden) shack.

You can probably erect this quite easily with the lax building regulation most places have.

Until then it's probably tent-in-house time or something like that.
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A warm sweater and double socks.
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>>51413187
not him, but ever since a /k/ innawoods thread I've wanted to find a place on a mountain and live in pic related.
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i turn my oven on max and leave the door open
= heat
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this is very comfy
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>>51413285
Exterior looks are comfy, but these windows and probably walls look like no insulation ones.

You need to change something about that, or it will likely leak heat like this whole building.

Still might be warmer than what you're living in right now, but you can relatively easily do much better - yes, a house with the livable dimension of that one is something you can keep warm with just your body heat.
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>>51413112
A computer
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>>51413110
So if I wear triple / quadruple layers of wool / fleece, minimize thermal loss from extremities, and stay in a small insulated room, I can be comfy without any heater ?
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>>51413681
In an *actually* nicely insulated room, you don't really need to wear anything but normal clothes, and could even be barefoot.

200W body warmth (plus sunlight, appliances, ...) isn't that little if it accumulates- it is enough to warm the oxygen you periodically need to let inside and then some.

Sure, when you make the room as big as a house or have poor insulation, you will have trouble with that, and will need some extra tricks. Whether you then use heat exchangers on the incoming air or pump warmth from the ground or heat it conventionally is up to you.

That house in >>51413481 only uses 13kW extra heat per square meter annually.

Pic here uses nothing extra (the standard allows solar heating and < 15 kWh/m2a from biomass, it does solar), but I don't think you can have these outside of Switzerland, Germany and Austria so far.
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>>51413904 (cont'd)
> but I don't think you can have these outside of Switzerland, Germany and Austria so far.
Let me clarify - I mean this for big houses like the one depicted. They're currently state-of-the-art, unlike the more relaxed Minergie-P houses of which we have thousands now, Minergie-A houses are rare, maybe a dozen or two until now, and only in the last 3 years. Same with corresponding standards in Germany.

You *can* DIY a very small house (or small interior room in a house) with strong insulation that requires very little to no extra energy, just not likely a full big house like that one that meets a shit ton of requirements.
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>>51413977
>Minergie
they make Energy Star look like a joke.
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>>51413977
Thanks bro. Here in south eu and no one gives a fuck about proper insulation. Today it was 23°C outside but it can get pretty chilly at nights
I already live in a poorly insulated house so I don't have many options. Atm I wear a modified wool blanket as a poncho. Considering tent in living room as well . I'm going all in
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4870x2 and 955BE in one PC,
7970 and 8350 in another.
I think ill be ok.

>>51414061
I own that same rug. It's comfy.
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>>51412506
This + a small heater/fan combo is what i need. The main heaters here are broken completely.
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>>51412630
You're a retard.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophic_burden_of_proof#Proving_a_negative
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Who /oilheater/ in here? Comfy as fuck.
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>>51412630
>You don't prove negative claims, you prove positive ones.

What the fuck? You can straight up look at the definition of the term and in it there is NO implication that it is restricted on negative/positive claims.
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>>51414620
>>51414633
Sounds like you don't have any proof. Why should I believe whatever random numbers you pull out your ass to try to make your product look good? Provide some proof or fuck off.
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>>51414678
>he didn't even read the article
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>>51414692
>hearsay is now proof
Try again.
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Could I get my outdoor grill inside the house to heat the house? It seems like a good idea
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>>51411082
Electric heating is the most efficient. It's definitely not the cheapest though.
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>>51414678
>whatever random numbers you pull out your ass
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>>51414770
>not a single ounce of proof to back up those numbers
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>>51411082
You can't go wrong with this. http://www.farmandfleet.com/m/products/839772-king-electric-portable-milkhouse-heater.html
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>>51414821
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>>51414622
I hate these. I've had bad luck where these leaked oil. But the heat they produce is silent, yet comforting. I'm kinda nervous about leaving my pelonis unit on when I go to sleep
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>>51414800
If you claim nvidia is lying, then the burden of proof is on you.
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800 watts of space heater that is effectively free to run. Keeps my bedroom nice and warm at about 75°F while the rest of the house gets cold because I'm not sleeping there and don't care how cold it gets while I'm at work.

Could do more with a beefier power supply, but it takes quite the monster PSU to get the most out of 'em.
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>>51414843
>>51414821
we almost burnt down my friends barn with one of those. One of the pre safety off switch ones. Fun times.
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>>51414870
i read "penis unit"
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>>51414885
What the fuck are those?
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>>51414879
>If you claim God is not real, then the burden of proof is on you.
That's just not how this works. The original claim was made by Nvidia. Why can't their claim be backed with any proof?
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>>51411082

Once my 980 Ti arrives things will get /cozy/.
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>>51414964
>THE GOVERNMENT IS LYING!
Okay, what evidence do you have?
>I DON'T NEED EVIDENCE!
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>>51414870
I leave mine on very low when I go to sleep. It sits right beside my bed and I wake up to a room that's a bit above body temperature. They can get very hot though if you Max it out, I'm scared to have anything near it just in case.
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>>51415019
But where is proofs?
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>>51414954
http://www.butterflylabs.com/monarch/

>>51414885
I found out a while back my 1.25 KW supply trips the overload at about 1520 watts, makes the wall plug warm, makes the wall voltage sag a bit, and makes quite the roar when dumping almost 1500 watts of heat into the air.

Seems I cant post my screenshot for some reason, hangs indefinitely. I tried to attach a screenshot of corsair link showing my computer drawing 1504 watts from the wall, and a total draw on the 12 volt rail of ~149 amps (yeah, the numbers don't make sense, but that's what it says)
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>>51415058
Proof of what exactly?
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>>51414061
The regular swiss building code is more like the equivalent to the current energy star.

Minergie has high standards, rather than what everyone in the industry can quite easily achieve. Wouldn't be something that makes us demanding swissfags feel good otherwise.

Besides, some rivalry with Germany, as usual. They also have standards, but of course we needed to be better, which is probably really how Minergie-A happened. They didn't have that one at first. :^)

>>51414568
You can achieve a lot with your own insulation. I know 'cause we amateur-retrofitted two roofs with more modern materials (home and holiday home).

Arguably the pros did the windows and other parts, but each step made the houses warmer.

> Atm I wear a modified wool blanket as a poncho. Considering tent in living room as well. I'm going all in
Honestly, I'd really do that. Can't always be freezing your ass off in a poncho. It's annoying to live in a tent most of the time, but ... what can you do? If you have enclosed air and the tent allows you to have the (limited) amount of air exchange you need with the room, it will be warm.
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>>51411082
Come on OP, you know people are just gonna post graphics cards.
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>>51413285
That is a fine kekshed. How much would one of these set you back?
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>>51413110
im trying to heat a whole house. 4 bedrooms a kitchen and a huge livingroom in the sierras. the donnar party couldnt even make it to where i live because ITS FUCKING COLD
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>>51414622
>not driving a computer for electric heat
Time to an hero.
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Buy gtx 480's reference card and leave the fan at 20%. you're welcome
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>>51411082
A dissatisfied wife with a penchant for expressing that dissatisfaction to you all day long.
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Efficient, not so much.
Folding @ home keeps me warm

Quad opterons
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>>51413680
which sockets?
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I never really understood how heatsinks worked until I repaired some headphones. I had bought replacement headphone jacks and soldered the wires to it. I learned very quickly that the entire length of the headphone jack absorbed the heat from the soldering iron.

It all makes sense to me now. When a CPU gets hot, the heat spreads out to the heatsink and if you cooldown the heatsink you cool the cpu in the process.
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>>51418002

Good God man, you could retire on your power costs.
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>>51418002
>Folding @ home
What is the attraction to this? Do you get paid by the project for the electricity used? whats in it for the average home user?
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>>51418086
Puts all 4 cpu's at 100% for maximum heat
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>>51418071
Thank fuck power is included in rent.
4x 1300w Power supplies
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I keep a window open 24/7 and never get cold.
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>>51411082
Thick clothing
>hurr before i can get warm i need to fill my whole fucking house with heated air
>hurr why isn't this efficient, right before it leaves the heating system the whole thing has close to 100% efficiency

Like most technology invented before 1950, dads have always known best.

Alternatively, imagine someone raging at intel because their benchmarks are terrible, then you find out they are also running a bicoin miner on the rig at the same time and they refuse to see the problem.
That is how you sound.
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>>51415792
http://www.motherearthnews.com/diy/cozy-cabin-zmaz06jjzraw.aspx
You could probably do cheaper if you have one of those recycled building material stores.
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>>51411082
Radeoven 390x
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Anything by AMD
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Delicious heated blanket

I may bring my PC into the room this winter for its heating, though I like the perfect silence.
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>>51413112
>>>/v/
>>>/reddit/

babbies get out
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>>51411082
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>>51419904
I have that same case. Metals kind of thin but I grabbed it off a newegg sale for $10
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>>51420045
It's alright for like 20 bucks, it was just smaller at the time
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>>51420122
serves it's purpose. And it sure beats the huge ATX case I had before
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>heating included in rent
>AC isn't
It's hot year round in my apartment, but my power bill doubles in the warm seasons.
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>>51411259
The sad thing it is 1000‰ once the electricity is in your house and if you have your electricity counter not outside of your house you well have even higher efficiency (since you only pay for the every that gets counted) but whatever.
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