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/hpg/ - Headphone General

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>$200 and under headphones:
http://pastebin.com/8u0qgQt1

>$200 and over headphones:
http://a.pomf.se/lncogq.png

>Earphones /g/uide:
http://pastebin.com/QQ4Gp7bQ

>/g/ wiki headphone FAQ:
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php?title=Headphones

>Requesting purchase advice:
http://pastebin.com/QGAhMCKE

>Audio related videos:
http://pastebin.com/TcTS8Tsn

>Previous thread
>>47815009
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How do you do, /hpg/?
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>>47835726
All is good, you?
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Good afternoon, /hpg/!
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Those headphones don't even look good on those models.

Just imagine the weebs that preordered one.
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sup hpg
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>>47835731
Men, I'm tired.
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Evening, lads.
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>>47835785
What kind of music is that Chinese stuff?
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>>47835796
Something like this. She does covers of popular songs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIK221ssIn8
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>>47835823
wow bretty good
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postan
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>>47835873

>Beats

Lol faggot.
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>>47835873
how are those beats and skullcandy treating you, friend :^)
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>>47835726
Good, thinking of getting some iems.
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>>47835895
why did denon end their oem deal with fostex?
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>>47835726
I'm fine, and you Anon? Procrastinating to the some David Bowie's albums and vydia instead of working on my paper.
>>47835737
>>47835785
Good evening Anon.
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>>47835726

I see we're doing these again
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>>47835940
Which headphones you prefer, hd558 or ad1000x?
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Is it easy to EQ? And is it worth it?
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>>47835785
you have some great taste
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>>47836717
>katy perry

my ex really liked london grammar tho... I miss her m8s ;_;7
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>>47836768
They're 500x's and 595s bro. And even so, I prefer the 500x's over the 595's.
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Reposting because I didn't really get any help before

>Budget
$1000

>Source
Onboard Realtek ALC892 chip from Asrock 970

>Past Headphones
Grado sr60i, beyer dt770

>Preferred tonal balance
I really like the sound signature of the beyerdyanmics except I find the highs shrill and fatiguing at times. So, warm/warm-ish sound signature

>Preferred Music
Hip hop, EDM, jazz, pop, folk
Would prefer for something that is "genre-transient"

>Location
USA

Budget is for headphones and amp

Was considering he-500's or used lcd-2's, maybe he-560's (but from reviews it seems like it might be too sibiliant for my tastes)
however completely unsure as to amp/dac

How necessary/useful are dacs? I've heard different opinions from different camps.
Willing to spend up to about $200 more for a dac, if need be

Anyone have experience with both dt770s and hifiman/audeze? How the the sound signatures etc compare?

Thanks
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>>47836925
HE-560s and past experience with Beyers, here. The HE-560 is nowhere near as sharp/sibilant in the treble as the Beyers were (though I don't mind that, myself), and I'd consider them easily the best option in the $1000 range. Massively more comfortable than Audeze's lineup, and HiFiMan's own prior generation for that matter, and the reason they're my endgame is that their sound signature just works for everything. I've yet to find a genre that they don't do marvelously well, which is something not many cans can boast.
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>>47835915
>>47835895
They totally aren't counterfeits :^)
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>>47836980
Thank you for the response.

What are you using to drive the 560's? And have you heard the 500's at all? Because going straight off reviews, those seemed to be the ones more up my alley (But I haven't heard either)
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>>47836801
>easy to EQ
I would say yes, but I've been doing it for a while. A visual interface is very helpful when starting out.
>worth it
Absolutely. It can improve the sound no matter how good you think your headphones are.

>>47836925
HE-500 and LCDs aren't the easiest things to wear. But while the 560 isn't treble deficient, it is generally nicer in the highs than the dt770.
Pre-fazor LCDs were very smooth in the treble, and also bordering on veiled. Fazor LCD are less veiled, and the HE-500 is like the Audeze with a treble peak.
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>>47836925
>How necessary/useful are dacs? I've heard different opinions from different camps.
Plug in your headphones to your computer and turn up the volume to a high listening level. Play silence. Can you hear whistling or noise? If not, don't bother.

We probably need a pastebin or info image for this question, it shows up all the time.
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>>47837028
No experience with the HE-500, sadly. I'm driving my HE-560s off an O2, which seems to be more than sufficient power-wise (and, thus, a Magni 2 would be as well).

Do be sure to factor in weight/comfort if you're new to planars. Even if you have to compromise slightly on sound signature (and, honestly, I'd guess that the HE-560s are more your speed, from your description), the impact of comfort can be markedly more significant. A double-sided planar design can be fucking heavy, and since nobody other than MrSpeakers and, nowadays, HiFiMan seems to realize that heavy headphones require suspension straps, that can lead to some outright uncomfortable headphones, which in turn makes long listening sessions unpleasant or outright untenable.
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I hope that fag on the top left was shot immediately after that photoshoot. Words have no way of describing the rage people like him cause me.
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>>47837294
I hope faggots who don't know left from right get shot
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>>47837182
The Stax SR-009 is a surprisingly heavy headphone from the metal used in the design, but fits well. The strap used in the Hifiman headphones looks like it was lifted aesthetically from the Lambda design,

>>47837169
On needing DACs, it in the wiki no one reads.
A more specific guide with products is one of those things no one can be bothered to help make. One of the many things on the /hpg/ to do list, now on pastebin.
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Are the ATH-CKM500iS any good. I broke my other pair of Razer Adaros and I don't wait to go back to that life
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>Budget
100-170$
>Source
PC, no AMP
>Requirements for Isolation
Doesn't matter
>Preferred Type of Headphone
Over year, open
>Preferred tonal balance
Not dark
>Past headphones
None, speakers microlab solo 15
>Preferred Music
Mostly Progressive/power metal, folk, jpop, very fast music in general. Sometimes jazz and acoustic music
>Location
3rd world country, import from japan is the cheapest way for me.

I'm absolutely satisfied with my speakers when it comes to slow music, but fast music often sounds like a noise. I want to be able to clearly hear every instrument, such as cymbals that don't sound like a white noise and bass guitar that doesn't sound like a constant bass wave. Comfortability is also very important since I will wear them everyday for more than 8h.

If i'm asking too much, at least give me some advices.
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Considering upgrading my HD668B -> ATH-M50x.
Yay or nay? I run the sound through a Sound Blaster X-Fi external card.
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>>47835659
>they are all guys
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>>47838044
That's not an upgrade though. You'll only be disappointed going from an open headphone to a closed one. The m50 is overpriced + uncomfortable as hell anyway. Get an hd598, K612, AKG K7 variant, or an AD900X
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How is the soundstage on the Sennheiser HD 598?
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>>47838125
>disappointed going from an open to a closed one
That's, like, the best part of it? What?
Here I thought M50(x) was the most recommended one on /g/, huh. I'll have a look at your suggestions though.
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>>47838201
closed is the best part of it?
what?

Closed headphones can't compete with similar priced open ones. The m50 (old one) was recommended when it was around 100 dollars + the old m50 was more neutral than the bloated bass m50x. The m40x is regarded to being better than the m50x. For a closed headphone I'd recommend the nvx xpt100 before the m50x. It's hard to beat the comfort of the xpt100 + the soundstage is much better than the m50x. If you're looking for heavy bass headphones then get the jvc ha-sz1000.

I'd still recommend an open headphone before both them though. However if you're looking for portable headphones then the m50x's do fold up so I guess that's a point for them.
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>>47838298
There is a sound difference between the M50 and M50x? I thought it was just the addition of a removable cord.
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>>47838298
I dunno man, the whole isolated sound thing is exactly what I prefer with closed. I live next to 24/7 noisy traffic road as well and I can hear it very clearly even with loud music on at any time of the day.
I forgot to mention that I play a lot of games, if that makes a difference.

I can't remember the last time I used closed headphones as I've had these 668B for some years now, and the last one I can remember before that was some Panasonic headphones and some "gaming" headset. I can only imagine it being more comfortable and better sounding though.
Portability is mostly a non-issue, I always bring cheap reserves or earbuds if I go out.
Feel free to explain to me your hate for closed back though.
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>>47838331
It's not a very big difference but the old m50 is more neutral which could be considered better to some people. The m50x has better earpads + a detachable cable though but it adds some extra bass as well. They both are uncomfortable though compared to a lot of headphones.
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>>47838396
I've noticed a lot of people complain about the headclamp, but I don't feel it. Maybe because I have a tiny head. Still, I'm glad I went with the M50x because they're portable and I needed the long cable to connect to my desktop as well and the standard 1.2m.
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>>47838340
I prefer my 2050's to my m50's in basically everything. They are similary priced to the 668b's. The 2050's are also comfortable to wear compared to either the 668b or m50. Superlux headphones are considered some of the most uncomfortable headphones to wear which basically means any headphone is probably more comfortable than your 668b's.

If you must get a closed headphone get the nvx xpt100. You can look up videos on how comfortable it is compared to the m50x.
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>>47838044
>>47838125
>>47838201
>>47838298
>>47838340
Alright, so I might spend the extra dosh on Sennheiser HD598 instead. Yay or nay?
Else there's NVX XPT100, but them being quite a lot cheaper just tells me that they're quite a lot worse (usually how things go eh?).
Everywhere I look though, in google, M50x is widely considered the superior <$200 choice which is about my budget (another thing I forgot to mention).

>>47838521
2050-whats?
Yeah these Superlux are tiring on me so that's quite true. Good sound, very cheap, but tiresome to wear for long periods of time.

I'm reconsidering open back though. It's just the outside noise that's been bothering me, but honestly I decided to just put on some typically loud music and I almost immediately -forgot- about the traffic noise outside anyway.

I'm also writing this at 20 hours without sleep and ongoing.
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>>47838576
Also I very much dislike the gay-ass beige-brown coloring on HD598, but in the end only the sound and comfort matters.
It's just that nothing else around my computer station here is a color other than black or dark gray.
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>>47838645
>598
rly m8?

558 + foam mod
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>>47838656
>yet another option
Guess I'll google that as well. What's your own opinion on the differences?
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>>47838670
Considerably cheaper, and essentially same as the 598 after the foam mod.

Also it's black
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>>47838670
You'd be fine with any of those options listed. Just don't get the m50x. The foam mod will make your headphone look ugly as hell though.
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>>47838678
Seems that the mod is easy enough.
>also it's black
Excellent.

>>47838691
>Just don't get the M50X
I still don't understand what's even potentially bad about them though. Pretty much anywhere I look, any comparison, any review states that the M50X is the overall best option.

Also, I'll add to mention that the two headphones (HD558, M50X) cost almost exactly the same where I can buy any of them (Scandinavia, and I don't do imports).
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>>47838670
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPd5BpEfNz0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPEz0_gpkiE
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>>47838737
I'll look these through, thanks hombre.
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>>47838736
The hd558 is a good headphone and I would recommend it before the nvx xpt videos I posted with or without the mod. The m50x has literally no soundstage, clamps like hell and is horrible for gaming.
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>>47838757
>no soundstage
>horrible for gaming
Duly noted as well.
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>>47838736
>. Pretty much anywhere I look, any comparison, any review states that the M50X is the overall best option.
That's likely because you're looking at, A, shills, or, B, user reviews on web retailers. In either case, you're not getting an informed opinion on how the M50x stacks up.

How much is an AKG K550/K551/K553 in your nation? It's one of the main reasons the M50x's value is shit these days, and it's got a reasonable amount of isolation to boot.
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>>47838781
>user reviews
Pretty much.
I'm gonna keep watching the videos above, the guy talking's doing a good job.

>nation
Sweden
I'll look it up
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>>47838396
>>47838513
I got replacement brainwavz pads for mine, highly recommended (the pleather kind)
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>>47838774
Oh, if you're considering the K553 because of >>47838781,
It's pretty cheap on Massdrop right now, but you have 45 minutes to do research and make a decision

https://www.massdrop.com/buy

gogogo
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>>47838801
Noted. How much are they?
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>>47838125
Uncomfortable? What the fuck are you talking about? I own an M50x and it's comfy as fuck. I can wear them for hours without any discomfort.
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>>47838818
$20 on amazon.
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>>47838829
Sure you can, anon, we believe you.
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>>47838829
What other headphones have you tried? Did you replace the earpads or something?
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>>47838781
>>47838797
>AKG K 550
$190
>AKG K 551
$205
>AKG K 553
Can't find any

>HD558
$155
>M50X
$155 as well
>NVX XPT100
Actually can't find these in stores, so nevermind these I guess. Not even Thomann sells 'em?

Thanks a ton for the support so far by the way. Unless it's painfully obvious, this is my first headphone purchase above whatever I paid for the 668B last year or so, so considering that I'm also not super wealthy I just wanna minmax the value for the (hopefully) next few years or so.
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>>47838812
>https://www.massdrop.com/buy/akg-k553-pro-studio-headphone

Seriously listen to this guy. 120 dollars for those is an amazing deal.
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>>47838866
>>AKG K 553
>Can't find any
Yes you can. https://www.massdrop.com/buy/akg-k553-pro-studio-headphone?mode=guest_open

Given those prices, just get the K553 and call it a day, it's comparable to the HD558, closed, has a decent soundstage for gaming, and it's better than the M50x in every way unless you want niggerbass.
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>>47838880
>>47838885
>Because of strict distribution agreements, Massdrop cannot sell-or-ship this product outside the United States.
Sorry
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>>47835659
This isnt /fit/ .. wat
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>>47838857
I tried a bunch at a music store a while back. Various AKGs, Sony MDR-V6 and 7506, Beyerdynamic DT 770, and a few Sennheiser models. The M50x wasn't the comfiest one that I tried, but I still found them to be very comfortable to wear, and I preferred their sound over the ones that I tried out that were in my price range. I haven't replaced the earpads or anything, I guess they just fit my head well.
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>>47838904
Oh I can add a $25 freight fee. But
>Estimated ship date is June 5, 2015.
I kinda want them this week. I think I'll have to skip this one, I'm also not familiar with the site nor shipping from further away than Germany.
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>>47838904
Its 25 bucks for freight forwarding
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>>47838904
>...Understanding that there is demand for this product outside of the US, we have negotiated exclusive pricing with a freight forwarding service to help certain individuals join this drop. If you join, please understand that you are purchasing this product and it will be delivered to a US address. It will then be processed for international shipping by a third-party forwarding company. Tracking will be provided.

At check-out select "Yes" to add the Freight Forwarding Service for $25. You will then need to input your shipping address as per a normal drop. If you do not select "Yes" for the Freight Forwarding Service options, you will be unable to input a shipping address outside of the United States.

rly m8
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>>47838904
Freight forwarders are your friend, here.

Or just buy a b-stock K550 off Thomann for €139. It's marginally worse, but I do mean marginally. http://www.thomann.de/se/akg_k_550_b_stock_2.htm

>>47838906
You're either shilling or retarded if you think that the M50x is even close in comfort to a Beyer, or any of AKG or Sennheiser's non-bargain basement lines. It's one of the most infamously uncomfortable headphones out there.
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>>47838919
>>47838922
>>47838928
Yeah I saw it (as mentioned above I'm tired, sorry), but again I don't want to wait a month for these.

Besides I'm still not 100% convinced yet but that's probably just because I'm a retard.
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>>47838928
>m50x
>uncomfortable
Fite me m8
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>>47838928
So I'm shilling or retarded because a pair of headphones happens to fit my head better than most people? Are you really this stupid? I'm not arguing that they're as comfortable as those other models for everyone, all I said was that I personally think they're comfortable, and I was surprised that they're known for being uncomfortable headphones.
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>>47838939
don't rush, headphones are a long term asset
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>>47838939
>>47838961
Aah fuck I'm really leaning towards this deal. It's overall cheapest as well, it's just
>June
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>>47838990
The b-stock K550 remains an option, albeit a marginally inferior one, if you want to avoid rushing/waiting.

>>47838944
You'll be fighting a lot of people if that's your criteria. Ask any headphone forum, even Sponsor Fi, how comfortable the M50x is, I dare ya.
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>>47839005
How reliable is Massdrop? I've never heard of it before but it has Paypal so that's a plus.
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>>47839010
As reliable as any major retailer. They fuck up occasionally, but they've historically been pretty alright in terms of customer service.
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>>47835873
Instead of all those mediocre headphones and IEMs you could've probably just bought 2-3 better pairs instead.
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>>47839010
They gave me 2 K7XX headphones and I sold one of them on ebay.
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>>47839020
Aight, aight. Almost 10 minutes to go.
Is it worth the wait? My 668B are still perfectly good to go in the meantime.
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>>47839042
You lucky fuck
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Fuck this drop, I got my M50x because my local retailer didn't have stock for any of the AKG models and I'm almost regretting it. And its even cheaper too, FUCK.
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>>47839044
Alright I went with it. It is done.
Now for the waiting game.

Thanks a lot guys and god damn what an impeccable timing to have both waited patiently for some time (I genuinely considered the M50X a few weeks back as well) to get a better product and also save money in the end.

Today, Anon was not gay.
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>>47839051
They knew I received 2 because of the emails I got from them. After awhile they started offering me free shit to send them back. I never responded.
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No bullshit, does Takstar HI 2050 need an amp or will on-board audio be enough?
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My headphones can be turned up to max while plugged into either front or back 3.5mm jacks and you can barely hear shit, forget listening to anything with bass. I have my computer next to my TV and it is hooked up to my audio receiver via optical. I just ordered a $5 3.5mm to 1/4th inch adapter to use my headphones with the receiver when I want some amplification, I will just have to reach down with my left hand to my receiver and switch inputs to DVD (no custom labels, that's what I decided the PC to be hooked to) and then change the output on my PC to optical, and I have a free (sans the $5 adapter) amp.

Tell me why this is retarded aside from having to have it next to the receiver and going through changing inputs. Why would I want to spend over $100 on a shitty amp when I have a multi hundred dollar A/V receiver just sitting a foot away?
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>>47838125
I went from my HD681 to my DT770 and I don't regret anything.
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>>47839118
on board audio is fine.

Their comfort is phenomenal. You'll be hard pressed to find a headphone with a better build quality than the 2050. I just love all the metal on it.
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>>47839141
You're talking about Superlux headphones though. The comfort on them are so shitty that even downgrading to shittier headphones is understandable. DT770 are pretty open for a closed headphone. You still won't have the soundstage of the 681 though. You also have to consider the DT770 is around 100 dollars more expensive as well.
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>>47839025
Shit, if he sold it all now, he could probably get a pair of near-endgame headphones and a matching pair of IEMs.

>>47839104
Congratulations, anon. You'll be pleased with your choice.
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K553 drop pls end already stop making me feel bad
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>>47839128
No bullying of this setup yet, I am assuming it's not too bad if no one jumped on my quickly.
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Best In-ears for under 50$?
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>>47839323
pistons 2 or 3
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>>47837890
Sz1000 and an amp if you want bass, ad900x/hd558 maybe if you don't much care for bass.
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>>47839118
I just recieved mine from china for $36.

Can confirm they do not need an amp.
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>>47839323
Depends on your taste, fill out the template.
>Requesting purchase advice:
>http://pastebin.com/QGAhMCKE
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>>47839323
>in-ears
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3k5EAN97wE
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>>47839179
The 681 sounds like ass though, they're so harsh to the point where I would rather stick a 20 inch horse-cock dildo in my ears.
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>>47839158
>>47839392
Are Takstars worth buying if I already have Grado SR60's?
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>>47839351
Really? They're ok at 20, they're terrible at 50.
>>47839323
Fxd70 probably. Im50 if you want to go a few dollars overs.
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>>47839323
>>47839585
Seconding the IM 50. memory wire may get uncomfortable after a while tho.
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beyer master race
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>>47835785

What STAX amp is that? I thought it's the SRM-1 MK2 but it's different.
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>>47835726
>>47835785
>3dpd
>waifu

3dpd can't be a waifu you shitters
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ITT a bunch of people who speak few words of japanese, listening to the music they do not understand and having waifus.
you're all a bunch of faggots.
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>>47841231
The thread has 50 IPs right now, and only several waifu templates posted. You are sstupid
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>>47841231
あなたもアノン
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>>47841154
>earspeaker
oh boy
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>>47835726

>Philip Glass

Jesus H Christ fucking kill yourself asap
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>>47841154
Not him but it's the tube hybrid SRM-T1. Seems to be tailor-made for Lambdas because it smooths the upper mid a bit and almost all Lambdas have razor sharp upper mid.
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should I buy mad dogs?
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I'm still looking for new headphones. I have ATH-M50 and listen mostly to EDM/brostep. Are SoundMAGIC HP150 an upgrade or more like sidegrade?
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>>47841722
Let's all love lain. I was thinking of buying those monoprice IEM's how are they?
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>>47841984
Get Sz1000/2000 and call it a day.
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>>47842089
Massdrop doesn't sell JVC.
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>>47842105
Also:
>JVC SZ-2000 I purchased these after owning the ATH-M50s for a year or two. I was convinced that these were good headphones due to the basshead thread on head-fi. I got them from Amazon Japan and I regretted buying them right away. One of the drivers sounded much less bassy than the other. I fixed this by blowing compressed air in the driver. Even with that problem fix they honestly sounded similar to Razer Krakens. The veil was so bad and the quality was not what I was looking for. I was just starting my headphone journey and like most folks, started with wanting bass. I returned these to Amazon.
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Any recommended volume control for big speakers?
There should be a thread for those as well...
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>>47842121
You mean one guy running from an unamped source without eq is disappointed compared to the tons that weren't? Oh noes. Seriously nothing else is even going to compare. Spend your bitcoins however you want faggot, but it's ultimately going to let you down.
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so after headband/earpad mods to make the Tascam TH-02 wearable and seal well, I'm trying it out with my e10. I gotta say even though they're not very detailed, the signature is just about perfect. Judging by ear I would say there is a slight bass accentuation that doesn't bleed or boom too much, and then it's pretty much flat all the way into the treble. I still hesitate to recommend them because of how bad the default fit is, but for the $17 I paid these are maybe the best I have heard in terms of value, better than the monoprice 8323 which was the cheapest good sounding (over-ear) headphone. I would gladly pay twice the price or more for a better build while maintaining the sound quality. I don't mind having to mod because after buying so many headphones/electronics I have a bunch of spare earpads and materials that can be used for common mods. But I can never wear these outside, they look even more ridiculous now. Might take a pic later if I can find my cam.
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Made this ones today, still need to manage my wires, after sounds testing they work like a charm, full sound insulation.
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>>47841722
Yes,, but you need an amplifier also.

I received a pair a week ago together with a O2 amp DIY project. Finished it last night and I'm very impressed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1IdewMApCc
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>>47842060
>I was thinking of buying those monoprice IEM's how are they?
good sound (especially for the price), but everything else about them makes them a pain to use. the build is bulky, so it's hard to get them properly seated in the ears, especially if you don't use foam tips. they also have to be worn in a "kind of" around the ear fashion but they don't have memory wire. the cable (on the older model anyways) is braided and so gets tangled really easily. the end result is that (for me anyways), I would spend time getting them in properly only to have one ear sound louder/bassier than the other. If you want a cheap IEM get the panasonic HJE-120k, it may sound a little worse but the comfort, build quality, and general ease of use are amazing. I don't think it's possible to be disappointed by those IEMs.
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>>47842330
how badly would a plain old e10 hold them back? considering I listen at lower volume levels compared to most people?
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>>47842449
The e10 will not hold back the Mad Dog at all at lower volumes. Before I finished the O2 I used a Creative HD USB powered soundcard and I can't hear any difference between it and the O2 at lower volumes.
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>>47842584
good to know
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>>47836925
>Onboard Realtek ALC892 chip from Asrock 970
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>>47842308
"made" as in the 3m are just for isolation and you added your own drivers?
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Can some one PLEASE post the picture that explains why you shuld not buy gaymin headphones with a mic but rather a good pair + modmic? Trying to get some dense fucks to understand it.
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>>47842717
Well yea, ofc.

I didn't make my own 3Ms or my own Drives.
Just soldered everything together.
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>>47836980
I find HE-560 to sound less detailed, more 2-dimensional and peaky than the similarly priced LCD-2. Bass is also another area where the LCD-2 blows the HiFiMan out of the water.

Damn shame about the weight though because otherwise they would have been the perfect headphone for me.
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>>47842692
>wasting money on placebo
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>>47842957
where did you buy em? I have some drivers laying around.
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Can someone help me pick a good amp?

I've got Sennheiser HD595s and a pair of HD800s as well.

What's a great entry to midrange level amp?
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>>47843230
This are my old, didn't really have use for them but you can get them in hardware store,
word of advice is to pick once that are easily disassemble, some don't allow access to cup itself.
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>>47843311
o2
beyer a20
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>>47842968
Which LCD revision? The 560 is more peaky by design, but overall flatter than any Audeze. I'm not impressed by the latest Fazor bass.

>>47842894
This one?
Even if decent headphones are used as the headset base(from AKG, Beyer, Senn, Audio Technica), they normally slap on a huge price premium on top.
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Which pair of headphones is the comfiest? My head hurts.
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>>47843372
>>47842894
Forgot pic.

>>47843389
Depends on head size. Usually the Beyerdynamic edition/premium models are very comfy.
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>>47843389
beyer dt 770/990/880
audiotechnica ad 700/900x
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>>47843402
i was thinking about the one that explains how you should buy a mic and just velcro it to your headphones. But this image gets the point accross well enogh. Thanks anon, have this duck!
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>>47843402
Still no good wireless solution tho.
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>>47843485
If they know anything about radio's then they should know that sending HQ audio over 2,4 ghz is fucking stupid.
>wifi
>bluetooth
>wireless mouse/keyboard
>RC
all use 2,4 its like the most used radio channel out there.
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>>47843485
>>47843531
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetic_interference_at_2.4_GHz
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>>47843372
I'm not sure honestly but they look like the one I posted, with the revised cable receptacle. >>47842968

I also like how solid the LCD-2 feels in your hand. The HE-560 screams of Chinese sweatshop quality to me.
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>>47843456
Well, you could just check /g/ wiki, both are there.
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>>47843311
Schiit Magni 2
Schiit Asgard 2
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>>47843619
thanks man!
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>>47843009
$200 is a chump change for a massive improvement in sound.
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>DT880s arrive
>can instantly tell they need driving
Should I get the better option of a Magni or just cheap out and go E10K? The Magni is about £30 more.
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>>47843695
Just get the Magni. You'll be completely safe with almost any pair of headphones and it performs better than the FiiO.
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>>47843599
The workmanship is god awful. They came up with that as a hotfix to their initial planned design, which used solid teak cups. Several cracked cups and gimbals scratching into the cup later, they settled for the ebony veneer on plastic.
The HE-1000 beta still doesn't have a great finish, but it generally fixes the sonic crap of the 560. They need to improve that in the final product if they seriously think they can fetch 3000 for it.
Could you feel or see ridges in the cup the LCD? That would mean the Fazor version.


>>47843695
No O2 option?
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>>47843717
Magni will probably be the better option, but the extra expenditure after dropping money on headphones is a pain. Also means I'll have to buy a seperate DAC in the future as well. Considering whether the sound is good enough that I can put off the amp for a few months until I get more money.

>>47843727
I was trying to decide between O2 and Magni but decided against the O2. Can't even remember why.
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>>47838781
>>47838812
>>47838880
>>47838885
Fuck did I miss out on a good deal?
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>>47843840
Only if you like wait 2 or 3 months to save a few dollars.
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>>47841219
>Cartoon waifu(s) triggers normies.
>3dpd waifu(s) triggers weebs.
kek
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>>47843896
Or if he was part of the first 675 who placed the order. Shipping early May.
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Is a Magni 2 enough to drive a pair of AKG K702 or do you need the Magni/Modi stack?
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>>47843951
Yes it's enough.
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Philips SHP9500
Got them for sweet 69€

it won't get any better

sadly they are open and loud as fuck
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>>47843896
>$233 isn't worth the wait
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>>47844141
They're retailing for 200. You can get refurb k550s today for 110 if you're poor. So no, it really isn't worth the wait generally.
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>>47844169
Well the total cost here's $120 for a completely fresh and better product.
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>>47844199
>>47844169
I'd easily wait two months. Especially if you already have a pair of headphones.
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>>47841522
I don't see your template...
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>>47844065
btw they should totally get listed in OPs pastebin
and he wrote Philips with 2 L
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>>47843531
Don't really care about HQ, as long as its above tinny bluetooth earpiece level. It's just my teammates swearing and explosions anyway. Wireless and comfort for extended wear are important to me, however.
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>>47844408
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>>47844498
A picture for ants?
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Fiio E12 vs E10k. Which should I get to power some SZ-1000's? Source is my PC. Do I need the DAC of the E10K? Do I need the power of the E12? Resistance of the phones is only 16 ohm.
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>>47845461
Stick with the e12 for best effect. They're pretty power hungry once you start boosting the bass if you want the bass to stay clean and undistorted. Add a dac later if you feel the need.
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>>47845653
Thanks. Yeah I noticed when the bass hits the rest of the frequency gets heavily muted. I wondered if this was due to lack of power or just the design of the phones.
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hi guys i'm looking for a cheap (under £30 if possible, so around $45-50) USB headset. it must be USB because the reason i need a new pair is the headphone jack in my laptop is fucked and i can't get it fixed right now.

i'm currently using a pair of sennheiser HD201 and i like them because of the size of the ear-pieces and because they don't press so i can wear them for hours and hours

sound quality is secondary to comfort, really. i use in-ear earphones for music etc., these are just for general use.
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>>47845865
sorry, it doesn't have to be a headset, i use a desk mic
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>>47841722
Mad dogs need a good amp. You're gojng to need to drop at least 300$ to get them on their prime
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>>47835659
>SOUNDMAGIC E10S

poorfag impressed, god damn it those look good. coming from ipods.

thanks /g
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>>47846043
They're not so great. Not sure why they're on the guide. Oh yeah, bc it never gets updates.
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>>47845865
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B001MSS6CS

Just get something like this. They're hd201s which sound a bit like shit anyways, so a mediocre dac isn't going to kill you.
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What do you guys think to be the natural upgrade from DT880?
Not a purchase advice request, just wondering what would be my next step.
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>>47836717
you're waifu a monster

>>47845086
Can ants resolve more detail from an image?

>>47845379
shittttt

>>47838164
>namori bunnyphones

kool
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>>47846364
Hd800, even has the treble spike near the same spot. Or get complimenting cans for that range, like x2s or mad dogs for something warm. Plenty of choices really.
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>>47846364
get a tesla t1 if you want to spend a lot of dosh
he-400i if not
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>>47846364
HD 800s are definitely one option. T1 is a hit or miss. Some Stax Lambda models are worth considering too.
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Akg 701 worth buying without amp?
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>>47846464
Yeah, i though about the HD800, i'd love something with better soundstage, not considering side-grades in this particular case though.
>>47846475
>>47846522
What's with the hit or miss thing about the T1 i keep hearing?
Which Staz lambda models are worth? (i don't mind used by the way)
the HE400i is not a bad idea, might be a good next step in between DT880 and one of the 1k headphones.
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>>47846620
What is planar magnetic and why is it so good?
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>>47846693
People don't like the beyer treble. But coming from 880s you'll feel right at home (assuming you liked them)
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>>47846716
http://www.innerfidelity.com/content/how-planar-magnetic-headphones-work

planar magnetics typically have better bas detail, and usually stay more coherent during complex tracks. the downside is that they are typically power hungry, and the timbre can sound weird.
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>>47846620
Depends on your current output. K701s are not easy to drive for dynamic headphones though. They are somewhat power hungry.

What a cancerous pic, something Head-Fier came up? Recommending specific headphones for specific kind of music is something I'll never get but to get that in-depth over specific genres of music and vague, half subjective "specs" listed.

Having Abyss in there is bad for my mental health. Fucking Shill-Fi tools and shills.

>>47846693
Large unit to unit variation, some distort heavily, some have worryingly large variations in the most basic stuff like frequency response. Shit shouldn't exist in its price range.

>>47846716
Planar magnetic are headphones which use a specific kind of transducers. It holds some key design benefits over more conventional electrodynamic drivers but usually comes with some drawbacks like weight. Benefits would be extremely low levels of distortion and very good frequency response extension, especially in the bass.

>>47846775
You can design a very easy to drive planar just fine. Many Audeze models don't even require an amp to be driven loudly.
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>>47846775
Is it a fad? Seems like the tech has been around for decades and didn't catch on.
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>>47846822
It's gaining popularity, the drivers are typically more expensive than dynamic drivers. I think oppo has shown that you can design an ortho driver just as, if not more efficient than dynamic drivers so we will see if the technology propogates, and gets cheaper with economies of scale.
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Is there a working download for Electri-Q somewhere? Links from the OP are dead and every search just turns up more dead links.
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>>47846815
>Depends on your current output
ALC892
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>>47846872
Nice. I'd like to see one of the major Japanese makers take it on again.
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>>47846822
Top 10 best headphones $900-2000 list would have over half of them planar magnetics.

Only few good cheaper models.
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>>47846693
T1 has a strong high treble peak. Very very strong in some cases.
Lambdas, they can be had on the cheap if you import.

>>47846822
Horrible insensitivity and limited output have kept it from being adopted. Planar magnetic is inherently not as efficient as an optimised coil. Space the magnets closer and you limit output, more magnets add weight.
The re-emergence is partly from the development of cheap and powerful neodymium magnets, as well as small companies that would try to establish a niche compared to the more experienced and established competitors that use the moving coil.
I would never say one technology is wholly superior than other, and planars have certain drawbacks associated.
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>>47846921
The technology is evolving very quickly, and a lot of different companies are pouring money into r&d. I think the magnet design in the el-8, and the pleated drivers mr.speakers developed are some of the more promising technologies to emerge this year
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>>47846996
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>>47847014
I'm also interested to see how the technology from the HE-1000 will trickle down into the rest of the hifiman lineup. I've heard they are developing a model to slot between the HE-560 and HE-1000
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>>47847031
Man, I hope that means a price drop for the HE-560.
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>>47846721
I do like the dt880 signature, wound't mind something a little flatter, though.
>>47846815
>>47846961
>Large unit to unit variation, some distort heavily
>T1 has a strong high treble peak. Very very strong in some cases.
Ok, no T1 for me in this case.
Will read more on the HD800 and keep an eye open for the lambdas.

Any other model/brand worth taking a look? What about $500/$600, anything besides HE400i?
Thanks for the directions guys, it's a lot easier to do my research when i know where to start.
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>>47847031
>HE1000
Asymmetric magnets as a compromise between output and weight.
The nanometer thickness membrane sounds fishy, the impedance doesn't reflect the wires that could be etched into a super-thin diaphragm and retain the low weight. At least the beta model sounded good.
>V-planar
I haven't looked carefully over the pleated or crinkled or whatever Dan does to his drivers, but quick impression of results:
-Alpha prime T50rp: poor
-Ether: pretty decent

>>47847053
Took awhile for the HE-500 to drop after its introduction.
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My long headphone cable always gets caught up in my chair and shortening it causes problems too

Are there any solutions to this out there
Like small spring cable reels
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Are there any good headsets with a mic?
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I got my Xiaomi Piston 3s the other day and they sound really nice. I like them better than my old hifiman RE-400s.
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>>47847209
G4me one
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Why my headphones sound louder from sandisk sansa fuze than from PC?
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>>47847226
I'm planning to get one too, but ill just ask some relative from china to sent me one.
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>>47847289
Your pc has shit output and/or high impedance. Time to buy an amp.
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How come the v6 looks so flat both on Innerfidelity and HeadRoom measurements? I though they were supposed to be v-shapped leaning towards bright. Honest question, am i reading these wrong or what?
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>>47847154
this is purportedly the material the he-1000 driver is made of
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>>47847226
You got knockoffs.
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>>47847364
Their v shape is greatly exaggerated by the faggots here. Their as flat as you're gonna get anywhere near that price, hence them being popular for studio use.
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>>47847364
V6 is neutral.
7506 leans towards bright, and IIRC it's the V55 that's V-shaped.

Do more research.
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>>47847053
I have a feeling this model is probably going to fill in the gap at the $2k price point, while the HE-560 and HE-1000 compete at ~$1k and $3k, respectively.
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>>47847372
Is there a full video somewhere?
I'll take stats on drop height and fall time alternatively.

Either way that's impressive.
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>>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzyDw9o0pzQ
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>>47847432
V55 is just straight up missing an entire frequency range. 7506/v6 are close to identical and neutral enough for the price.
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>>47847372
Wires have a non-trivial mass.

>>47847364
Innerfidelity's compensation is off. Headroom makes it look slightly harsh at the top.

>>47847453
As Fang is so fond of telling the Stax use a thicker membrane.
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Cheapest amp for HD 650?
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Is geekbuying a legit site? I found some cheap deals
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>>47846921
Even the oldies aren't bad. But they need a decent amp.

>tfw 1970's Fostex drivers are bigger and better than 2015's because they Dr. Hammond'd it.
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>>47847408
>>47847432
>>47847512
I'm just asking because, as i was led to understad, being neutral is a good thing, but while all big three have smother signatures, they also have more exagerated dips and peaks while the v6 presents more dips and peaks with less db variation, does that means the v6 is, overall, flatter or, lets say, just as flat as the big three? Only problem i'm seeying here is the bass roll-off.
Just trying to understand how all of this works.
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>>47847697
Neutral is not "good", because "good sound" is relative. "Analytic" is a better choice of words.
You'll be able to hear everything well, which is why they're used in studios, but it may not sound "good", as neutral headphones can also often be described as "flat"
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>>47846620
>>47846916
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A decent motherboard. My Asus Z87 pro powers them fine just fine
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>>47847794
As long as you like the signature. But get the 702 if possible.

>>47847697
I did say that innerfidelity's compensation is off. It seems to aim for something brighter than what is normally given by the manufacturer as the target for that head.
An easier comparison can be made at Headroom graph comparison, using the compensated response
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>>47847971
>But get the 702 if possible.
612 with amp might be cheaper.
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>install 4chan x + oneechan
>love it
but
>no youtube embed
how do I get it?
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>>47848094
Yeh. Look OEM.
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>>47848020
K601 is even cheaper, the only difference is the 1/4" plug and newer ones being made in China. I got a Chinese made K601 a couple months ago, no issues with quality so far. K601 is only ~$50 cheaper though so it's not a big difference in price.
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>>47848094

What mic is that?
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>>47848160
antolin modmic i'm pretty sure
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>>47848160
Modmic 4.0

got it off the last massdrop
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>>47848203
How much was it?
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>>47848157
Where are new k601s still sold?
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>>47848227
40$ for the muted version which I got
35$ for unmuted
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>>47848263
What?! Can't you get a clip on for a couple bucks?
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>>47848242
bhphotovideo is where I got mine
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>>47848284
You can, but modmic has much better quality.
For a lot of people (like me) a cheap clip-on like zalman is enough though.
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>>47848157
They actually cost the same.
http://www.amazon.co.jp/AKG-【国内正規品】AKG-セミオープン型ヘッドホン-プロフェッショナルモニター-K702/dp/B001GF7WRW/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1430861824&sr=8-1&keywords=k702
http://www.amazon.com/AKG-601-Open-Back-Studio-Headphones/dp/B000NDJRSU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1430861734&sr=8-1&keywords=K601
And both outside of my budget.

I guess I'll keep waiting for something decent on massdrop but I really don't want to spend 80$+ on amp.
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>>47848284
>a couple bucks

not sure if that would be as good?

the modmic is expensive, but it's good quality and the only mic I know of which you can attach to headphones like it does. I've heard a lot of good about the zalman clip on if you want a cheaper mic
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>>47847530
Schiit Fulla but I returned my 650s because they didn't sound any better than my other cheaper headphones. Audiophiles are delusional.
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>>47847697
Here's my listening experience on those headphones. I haven't heard the HD600 but I have listened to the HD650s.

V6:
Much bassier than what the graph shows. The treble peak is very noticeable. It's been described before as a having a V shaped response (enhanced bass and treble) and I generally agree.

K702 (I assume it's the same as K701):
Overall very nice headphones to listen to. Biased towards the treble but it's very smooth throughout the spectrum. Won't sound bassy at first but once you start listening to tracks with a lot of sub-bass you will notice that it extends very well into the lower frequencies.

HD650::
A bassy sounding headphone with great sound everywhere else. Almost perfect except for the bass. Would rather it have the K702's bass (better extension and more neutral/accurate).

A headphone with AKG K702's bass and HD650's treble would be perfect for me. The V6 is just generally a good performer but not as good as either the K702 or the HD650.
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>>47848472
What are your other phones?
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>>47848472
/hpg/ is a bait free zone
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>>47848398
It wouldn't. ModMic 4.0 is actually pretty fucking good if you have a decent interface too. It's still pretty pricey, even from Massdrop.

>>47847794
Not to me they wouldn't. Lack of bass, headband bumps and an upper mid fr that would require EQ for my ears mixed with the possible ability to even get sufficient volume... nnope.
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>>47848540
I forgot to add a bit about the DT880.

DT880:
Sounds almost exactly the same as the K702. If you already own one then don't get the other expecting it to sound different.
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How easy is it to replace the earpads on headphones?
I've got M50s and I'd like to replace the earpads but I'm scared of fucking something up.
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Is there a non-portable equivalent of the Fiio E12 that might be a little better or cheaper? I only listen at home and don't need portability.
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>>47848094
tops
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>>47848263
Did you get the uni-directional or omni-directional? What's the dif?
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>>47848752
I got uni

omni picks up sound from everywhere (which is pointless on this kind of microphone) while uni picks up from 1 direction.
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>>47847759
I see, i guess i chose my words poorly, thanks for enlightening me about Anon.
>>47847971
Indeed, it seems to make more sense on HeadRoom, thanks anon.
>>47848540
>>47848601
Very interesting, which one would you say to be the natural upgrade from a v6? Also, if DT880 and k702 are so similar, what would be the reason to pick one or the other?
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>>47835659
Hello /hpg/ I have a question does anyone know where i can inline mute switch to add it in my own microphone or headphones? Am I doomed to buying a cheap inline iem and hacking it.
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>>47848623
Very easy.
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How is the 02 amplifier? It's
/opensource/
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>>47848932
>Very interesting, which one would you say to be the natural upgrade from a v6?
I wouldn't point any headphones out as a "natural upgrade". Both are upgrades in a way but it really depends on your preferences. Just be aware that K702/DT880 have strong treble and Sennheisers generally have strong bass. If you listen to bassy music then a bassy headphone might make it too bassy, and vice versa for music with a lot of treble. All three of the big 3 are great headphones though.

>Also, if DT880 and k702 are so similar, what would be the reason to pick one or the other?
Beyers have a more solid construction but are less flexible. The K702 is ligher, more flexible but has bumps on the headband. I've heard newer Chinese made K702s don't have bumps but I've never seen those and the one I have is made in Austria and has the bumps. Great thing about the DT880s is you can get them in the 600 ohm version. It will sound consistent regardless of amp impedance. K702s have a 62 ohm impedance so the sound may vary depending on the amp it's plugged into. Both are pretty quiet headphones. I've had to turn to volume up to max from portable devices for beyers.
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>>47845379
>having two waifus
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>>47849178
It's fine as long as they aren't from the same universe. They don't even exist in the same plane of being
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>>47849084
Solid, noiseless amp even with the most sensitive headphones (se535). The original maker was a dick though and didn't let people improve it, leaving it with the horrible layout of 1/8" jacks all in the front. Some manufactures eventually said fuck it and started modding it to use rear RCA inputs, 1/4" jacks and rear power input. If you buy one, get the custom ones from JDS labs with those features.
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>>47848290
Not anymore.

>>47848932
K701 has a midrange bump, dt880 has a recessed midrange.
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>>47849540
Did he ever state a reason he chose everything to be in the front panel?
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>>47849540
Interesting. What do you think of the JDS ODAC?
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>>47849676
Personally my requirements for a DAC is that it must be optical. Odac is restricted to usb input.
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>>47849667
Probably just his personal preference. The guy liked to test a lot of things, and for testing, having all the things in the front is convenient.
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>>47849902
I've read a lot of optical sources can't do 24/192 so isn't USB input better?
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>>47849969
Better than letting the noisy 5v power from your computer mess everything up.
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>>47849969
24/192 is a mess anyways. There's never a good reason to use it
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>>47850016
Hmmm. I didn't know USB input did that. Thanks.
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>>47849969
My older one does 24/96 optical and only 16/48 USB. Usually optical is the same or more as USB.
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>>47850040
How so?
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>>47850076
http://xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html
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>>47850087
This same guy has a video explaining this and other shit, pretty good.
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>>47850087
>>47850121
There is one case for 24/192 though and that is if you are a DJ and you want to remix stuff. You mix your tracks in 24/192 and downsample after you are done.
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>>47846620
who made this? such an extensive chart just for compatibility with metal sub-genres is impressive.
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>>47850243
It'd be nice if there was other music types though.
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>>47850243
http://www.head-fi.org/t/715478/headphones-for-metal-music-ultimate-solution
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>>47850260
yeah, though I don't know how useful that would be. the idea of different headphones being suited to specific sub-genres is a bit ridiculous, especially with metal where the production/recording can vary so widely. also the rating/color system is a bit wonky and the chart overall need more labels.
the abyss, a headphone known for being outrageously overpriced listed so high is weird, then again I never tried it.
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>>47847697
>>47847432
>>47847364
v6 owner here. It's not neutral, I would even hesitate to call it balanced which is a more forgiving term. It's slightly v-shaped tending towards bright. you want something that actually sounds neutral in that price range? xpt100 and the m40x.
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