Post your home servers and talk about dedicated/VPS/colocation providers. VPN and seedbox discussion also welcome.
IRC: #/g/hostingtalk @ irc.partyvan.eu (Use Mibbit or similar for webchat)
Prometeus 512 MB KVM VPS, Italy
HostHatch 512 MB KVM VPS, Sweden
Supermicro 1U E3-1231v3 server at home
1U colocation at Portlane, Sweden.
LeaseWeb dedicated server or colocation.
NFOrce dedicated server or colocation.
Prometeus is okay whenever I don't have to speak with Maounique at support desk.
RamNode sent me spam and denied it, Nick_A is abusive towards customers. Cancelled my VPS.
HostHatch support is really nice and quality network too, but the abuse desk's lack of understanding made me leave.
123systems/ChicagoVPS is total garbage.
ThrustVPS (rip) had frequent downtime. Thanks iomart for ruining a good provider.
LeaseWeb nothing but good experiences.
Online.net/OVH/Hetzner.de only bad experiences with support and abuse desks, often also problems with network.
No VPN or seedbox at the moment.
LeaseWeb, NFOrce or Portlane for the VPN/seedbox.
Only experience with PrivateInternetAccess VPN for 1 year. Good network, but IPs are banned a lot. Did not renew.
Dual Xeon E5520 1U colo with more RAM than I honestly know what to do with, FreeBSD 10, USA, old employee discount that survived when I moved to a different job.
more IPv4 space for my server, or github adding IPv6 support so my jails can clone repos properly
how about vpsdime? thinking about getting their $7 plan...4vCPU/6GB
and.what would you recomend??
only exp i got with public hosting is with aws free tier ending august a raspi serving seafile/sftp/git etc.
I need a vps for me n my friends hosting portfolios, some apps in multiple frameworks as well as slowly moving into a startup infrustructure for collaborative work. we're in UK, Italy and India.
help a bro out if you got the time.
I'm not neku, but the RAID10 array is fine now. No files lost, full recovery.
People in original thread were looking for Tor support, it can be moved to some other network if needed.
I don't like OpenVZ hosting at all. Consider the resources you get at VPSDime are not dedicated but for bursting.
Find a low-end KVM/Xen provider you like from LowEndBox. HostHatch is great for this if you don't expect to receive any abuse ever.
DO $110, still no droplets
Server at home, currently barebones, and cannot get VNC working properly.
OS: Debian 8.0
RAM: 6GB, will add 10GB more.
1: 120GB SSD
2: 500GB SATA
3: 1TB USB
4: 2TB SATA
CPU: AMD Phenom II quadcore
More servers, a great hosting solution, etc
Haven't done anything with my DO account yet.
Leaseweb HP ProLiant DL120, pentium dualcore, 4gb ram, 4x1TB hdd
home, repurposed XPS 15, i7 2670qm, 8gb ram, 1x1tb hdd
moar leaseweb servers in moar locations. renting a dedicated server makes it feel like its your own, but i really want to try colocation. but its expensive and i don't have my own rack server yet
LEASEWEB! best everything.
3 GNU/Linux VMs on EC2, 1 Windows Server on Azure and 1 on Vultr
Colo at either LeaseWeb or vps at ovh
Amazon and M$ have been good so far. As to be expected, but
Vultr is great. If you haven't checked it out, do so now.
IRC yes, torrents "maybe". HostHatch doesn't want any DMCA notice at all, they also insist on keeping their [email protected] email in WHOIS which makes them liable. They will tolerate few incidents but if you get frequent complaints they will terminate your contract.
I ran into trouble with HostHatch when I wanted to run a public BitTorrent tracker like PublicBT or istole.it with no magnet links or torrent files. Said they would not allow it on their servers, despite being protected under DMCA Safe Harbors for a customer running a "search engine".
Alex de Joode is a really nice person to work with, indeed. I'd only use LeaseWeb's NL location because that's the best one out of them and it's enough for me.
I can give you a free 1U colocation at Portlane (Sweden) if you have a good (political) reason for it that I can support. Colocating 1U isn't much more expensive than renting a dedicated server, 1U starts from 40-60 EUR per month.
The previous threads we've had really discourage Kimsufi. I guess it's okay for a seedbox as long as you don't have to deal with the support, which is awful.
amazon doesn't want to do bussiness with me anymore :(
My biggest grudge with Vultr is their restrictive AUP.
>B. Defame, abuse, harass, stalk, threaten or otherwise violate the legal rights (such as rights of privacy and publicity) of others.
>C. Publish, post, upload, distribute, traffic or disseminate any defamatory, obscene, or otherwise unlawful content, such as child pornography or virtual child pornography.
>D. Publish, post, upload, distribute or disseminate any topic, name, material or information that incites discrimination, hate or violence towards one person or a group because of their belonging to a race, a religion or a nation.
>J. Restrict or inhibit any other user from using and enjoying the Services.
>N. Create a false identity for the purpose of misleading others.
These can be problematic for IRC network owners. Some of those are also protected by freedom of speech, so Vultr shouldn't be an arbitrator to censor things they don't like.
You're welcome. If you're going with HostHatch, say to Emil J. there that Partyvan / Juuso Lapinlampi sent you if you see him. I've gotten nice discounts before.
This is a terribad idea. Never host anything from home. Get a 5 or 10$ VPS. Linode is a tad pricey but rock solid and a great network. Digital Ocean if you want to save a few bucks and are okay with a slower network and downtime a few times per year.
I don't work at LeaseWeb, but I have lots of experience with them. For example if you want to run a Tor exit at LeaseWeb or handle abuse related to it, you can contact Alex de Joode directly. Works nicely like a support backdoor.
DigitalOcean is the second largest hosting provider in the world now. I don't like this.
Potentially a stupid question, but would getting a raspberry pi 2 and using it as an always on server be viable?
I have a domain hosted on a shared server already, but the response time is too terrible.
I imagine security wouldn't be a huge issue as I would not connect it to my main computer.
Another reason I thought of this was maybe I can host a couple of other sites that I might want to mess around with, without the restrictions on how many domains I am allowed.
Is my newness showing?
>better flee the country before they get the drones on to you anon
They're pretty much standard terms. Although D is a bit restrictive. I also fully agree with C, since I'm not a pedo
But yeah, I reckon if people want to start up a racist IRC channel, let them.
>but would getting a raspberry pi 2 and using it as an always on server be viable?
It's feasible to do, but I think we're about 2 years away from having low-price-point SBCs that can really do a server right.
We'll need a new generation of low-price-point SBCs that have SATA support, gigabit ethernet, maybe a real-time clock, etc. that will really make it a good, well-rounded home server platform.
We're getting there. Check out ODROID-C1 ($35), which has gigabit ethernet. Banana Pi has SATA, but it's $50 not $35. To me, it feels like we need about 2 more years for it to all come together at the $35 price point.
The most odd conversation I've had with a VPS provider support.
Servers are mostly subjective and people can have different experiences. Not everyone can afford LeaseWeb's cheapest 30 EUR dedicated either, as arguably nobody has ever had an issue with LeaseWeb generally.
Cheap dedicated providers like OVH, Online.net and Hetzner usually suck with support. It's pay for what you get.
The current state of respectable VPS providers is quite sad. None of them have been fit for me, so I'm only doing dedicated/colo right now.
I had an idea that I could pay for someone's 1U colocation at Portlane if someone wanted to setup VPNs or virtual servers on it for /g/.
In other words, if you make a guide someone is going to disagree with you anyway.
What are you looking for in a server? Network quality, good support, managed services?
I'll clarify, if someone wants to host VPNs or virtual servers for /g/ then it doesn't necessarily have to be located in Portlane. I'll also accept NFOrce and LeaseWeb NL datacenters.
Need cheap vps with
- 10 - 15 euro range
- small ~ medium disk space (25 - 100 GB) and allow private torrent so I can use it as seedbox on private tracker
- decent cs support
- I'll also use it to host my site
And how do you minimize cpu usage ? By installing varnish cache server and cache everything ?
Shit tier home server c2d+2gb ram, 2x3TB disks, DO when I need it
Good hardware, decent cpu and lots of ram
Other than hosting minecraft, what do you need a powerful server for? Our shit tier server does anything we might need, which is web hosting, file hosting and ts3. Hosting minecraft is a mostly unpleasant experience too.
What do you use your VNC for? Torrenting? I just use a free vnc when I need to be anonymous.
Also, has anyone tested how fast the DO "ssd storage" is? Is there any way to get more storage to use with your DO server? Is there any way to copy other peoples images at DO, alternatively an easy way to set up VNC and a desktop enviorment? (I succeded once, but it broke on reboot. Preferably no "vnc needs is own account" silliness.
$1-$2.5 per Mbps is a reasonable transit price. $20 is not.
Perhaps I'm the oddball, I don't just want a high-speed connection but I also want good peering.
RamNode, HostHatch, anything from LowEndBox. As long as you don't run into trouble with abuse desk, you should be okay.
If your site is small, you're not going to consume a lot of CPU cycles for the webserver (at least not with nginx). nginx also comes with own caching options, so you don't even need Varnish with nginx.
I was looking for something cheap and reliable. Just for use as a VPN tunnel endpoint and random stuff, nothing serious.
I've used Digital Ocean in the past and they've been fine (but fucked up backups once and I left, plus my coupons ran out).
DigitalOcean's disk I/O is generally lower than what you get from a typical LowEndBox offer. I don't have a source to cite now so take this as a grain of salt, but I'm sure I've seen multiple benchmarks.
While RamNode is constantly being praised by the idiots at LowEndBox/LowEndTalk, they actually also get a lot of DDoS attacks. Although the attacks have not targeted me or my host node, my IRC server has still disconnected and delinked from the IRC network about three times last month.
Sorry, I forgot to continue >>47829861.
I had over 370 days of uptime on Prometeus. Network's meh though. HostHatch has quality datacenters (well, their NL datacenter Serverius is not top of the line). Anything from LowEndBox that works for you, really.
RamNode or HostHatch in European locations I guess, from my experience. I dislike both of them personally. I don't have experience of US locations.
Go with a provider which provides an SSD, 1 Gbps connection and an E3 processor if you want the performance.
Online.net and OVH require to cancel any servers before 20th of month. They will send collection agencies after you if you don't pay for the next month after 20th. Always read the Terms of Service that you agree to before ordering.
Why don't you like them? So these are mainly much better at CPU performance compared to DO? Do I really get three cores all to myself?
Can I install windows server and how hard would that be?
I don't like HostHatch for reasons mentioned earlier in this thread. Emil J.'s dedication at HostHatch support is admirable, but my issues were about HostHatch's inability to defend freedom of speech and a BitTorrent tracker project of mine. Political censorship without breaching AUP, kind of.
They did say that the AUP template was copypasted from another provider so it was not something they would completely agree with. They even went as far as offering me dedicated IPs directly from the datacenter instead of having their [email protected] email in WHOIS when SWIP was not an option.
For note, one of my servers was falsely suspended for "CPU abuse" despite the server being powered off and never utilizing CPU highly. It didn't cause me an inconvenience however.
What Emil J. really succeeded at was working with upstream to fix a peering issue, where Level 3/Global Crossing had an extra 100 ms hop with TeliaSonera customers. That's the best thing I've ever seen a VPS support desk do (compared to Prometeus which requested me to cancel for a full refund).
I got the full speed from them (Portlane). I did report a bug with erroneous sysctl.conf settings to them earlier about slower download speeds in Stockholm location, but pic related says they would have worked on it.
Host virtualizes Windows.
Thanks, I'll pick Hosthatch storage vps for now.
The choice between KVM and OpenVZ in RamNode are confusing, so I'll get Hosthatch.
Just to be sure I asked the sales person about that torrent thing via email a few minutes ago.
$10 / month for 512 MB RAM, 500 GB HDD, and 2 TB bandwidth sound great.
Well, maybe I'll upgrade to $15 if I need more memory for 1 GB RAM later.
OpenVZ is vomit, always go with KVM for uptime if you need it.
You don't need to contact sales, I know HostHatch will allow torrents in all locations as long as you don't cause them abuse notices.
Pic related is what they think about Tor exits. In another ticket Mike W. says they can tolerate few abuse notices but after that the only option is to stop.
Most VPS providers don't allow you to utilize CPU 100% 24/7. It's reasonable to say that you can utilize all cores for short bursts (for few hours maybe), but below that you are expected to stay under 50%-100% CPU utilization for one core for 24/7 operation.
There are some (in my opinion overrated) VPS providers like BuyVM's abusive cores plans which allow you to use CPU as much as you'd like.
Here's another example of HostHatch's stance on torrents.
Any experiences with CyberghostVPN?
I live in Germany and I heard that copyright sharks are starting to fuck people up really hard again, so I think it's time to invest in a VPN and they seem good
Awesome, thanks again.
It's for private tracker so I don't think I'll get DMCA letters unless it's "public trackers" like TorrentLeech or IPT.
Just curious, do you also run your own ruTorrent client there ?
It works when it works, that's about it. When you pay for a VPN, you get a better service.
Just know that if you don't pay for the VPN service, then your identity becomes a product for the company.
I ran rtorrent without the ruTracker web frontend. It's just your regular VPS that you can do almost anything you want with. "It works?"
Off-topic: Quite surprisingly, an Online.net staff representative once said "As long as it's not a public tracker, you shouldn't have problems.".
: As long as it's not a public tracker, you shouldn't have problems.
I love these threads.
I'm a poorfag currently trying to get one of those Student Packs from Github. My request is pending since two of three weeks.
Once I get a job next month or so I'll buy something nice and cozy, but until there...
ERROR Host does not support virtualization type 'xen'
Such absolute bullshit. The fucking product page for Intel explicitly states the processor I'm using supports it, including VT-d. This is such fucking bullshit. Why is this shit so fucking difficult to get working?
Virtualization was on by default and I explicitly enabled it two years ago, I even checked the BIOS 15 minutes ago, still set properly. Nothing inhibiting it from using it. I even use to use this with KVM/OVZ, but for whatever unknown fucking reason, installing Ubuntu 14.04 with Xen hypervisor basically means that somehow went out the fucking window.
I had a similar problem when I was attempting to setup pci passthrough on my VM, everything was setup correctly, but I never got a monitor signal on my passthrough'ed NVIDIA GPU (despite claiming the GPU with pci-stub properly and having access to the VM through VNC).
Don't come to /g/ for this kind of questions, you're not going to get any help unless you're trying to pick up a new phone from a store, just saying.
I know. I'm just trying to learn Xen as the OVZ kernel is too fucking old atm. My problem is I got LVM setup, Xen setup (and it's supported), but apparently when booting into the Xen hypervisor all my virtualization support goes out the window.
So I can't even create a basic little Ubuntu guest to contain some shit.
LeaseWeb if 29 EUR/month is "value". Quality support on quality network, you pay for what you get. If that's too much, you're better off finding a VPS instead.
Online.net and OVH if you don't care about horrible support and abuse desks. Also, they'll send collection agencies after you if you don't cancel before 20th of month or pay for next month after 20th. Terrible network too. This includes other branches like Kimsufi and SoYouStart.
Hetzner.de network is even more terrible.
When your hosting provider receives an abuse notice for a subscriber (you) on their connection, they will often contact you and ask you to stop the abusive activity like spam or malware distribution. Things like copyright notices also end up to the abuse desk. The abuse desk will expect you to satisfy the requirements to avoid suspension in 24 hours or so.
Some abuse desks are exceptionally worse and will probably suspend your server first without warning. Other times they'll just tell you to get your data and show the door, again without a warning. OVH and Online.net practices both of these very often.
Someone DDoSing your IP-address might also piss off the abuse desk and tell you to leave. Many providers show no respect for clients there.
Want to put a firewall between my switch and my router (pfSense).
Need a 1U 19" machine that does not need much power (20W or less would be great).
Should I build myself (mini-itx) or is there a prebuild machine with these specs?
In my opinion, use OpenBSD with pf instead of FreeBSD's pfSense distribution. More utility and more recent version of pf.
See if Supermicro has something like this available. Intel Atom or something, maybe E3-1230L v3. The latter has a TDP rating of 25 W.
Really should update this photo.
- $13.92/year 128mb RamNode
- Kimsufi KS1
- Online.net Kidechire (2e/month dedicated with a gigabit line)
- 3e/year LowEndSpirit
- $5 DigitalOcean from free GitHub credits
Getting rid ot the LowEndSpirit and DO ones when they expire, as they're redundant.
I'll just drop this here. Should had made the ticket in English.
I like my Online.net server but they reduced the price of their entry level offer from 9.99EUR to 5.99EUR and are still making old clients pay the original price for the exact same machine. They refuse to make any adjustment and I've been a customer for over a year. Probably going to move to a Vultr or DO VPS. Most of my visitors are American or Canadian like me anyways.
I have a promo deal vps with 1gb ram for about 20usd from weloservers in London. It was alright within the first year, but over the last year it was constantly rebooted without warnings (I complained every time), their support just went to shit. Can not recommend.
Bunch of Dells, PowerEdge 2850, SC1425, Powervault 220s
Infiniband Switch : TopSpin 24 ports
>Why Infiniband ?
Cause VERY LOW latency and 10 gbits, Oh Yeah, MPI love that shit
Hmmmm, the support says storage vps isn't suited for high cpu load.
Should I switch to Hosthatch's KVM VPS ?
$7 / month
2x Intel E5 3.5 GHz+ Core
1 GB RAM
30 GB SSD
2 TB Bandwidth
If I have cpu problems later, I'll switch to Leaseweb's dedicated server for €30 / month.
For safety I'll run the torrent at the end of the month (day 20 - 30) so if rutorrent causes high cpu load and my contract is terminated ASAP I already get my money's worth.
How's Leaseweb's stance on private torrent ?
Pomf has no backups. Living on the edge. It's on to-do along with Internet Archive dumps.
Sure, go with KVM.
LeaseWeb is tolerant of anything except IRC servers. They also host a lot of seedboxes. Since LeaseWeb's serves are dedicated, they don't care about CPU usage and you get a bunch of more bandwidth (10 TB/month).
This is what most low-end providers, I am not surprised to see this from Online.net. Assumably you have to cancel your current box and purchase the new one for 5.99 EUR, or better yet find a new provider.