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Apple explains the single USB-C port

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>We're cheap fucks who maximize profits to the point where basic functionality of the device at hand is comprised
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It is a portable device so it makes sense to me. Not bundling the adaptor is a dick move but also brilliant.
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>>46996171
>mfw I watched that video
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>>46996293
>It is a portable device so it makes sense to me. Not bundling the adaptor is a dick move but also brilliant.
It's not brilliant. They could have easily built traditional USB ports, more type C, the displayport out, etc. into the power adapter, but they didn't, because fuck you.
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>>46996293
Stuff like this shows me, how much money is to make with peoples stupidity. People will actually pay for it. Everytime i try to convince someone not to buy overpriced stuff, people start to defend their decision. Nobody likes to feel stupid. But then they are amazed, how well my used ebay laptop and my used smartphone work and start questioning their purchase.
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>>46996171
kek.
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>>46996171
A thread about this was posted 2 minutes before yours at >>46996163.
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>>46996705
Ah shit, I checked the catalog and couldnt find anything
The time it took me to find a fairly clean image and upload it, they already made a thread
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>>46996171
That jack kind of ruins the whole thins, don't it?
Would work better with another USB-C port (and a set of UCB-C wired headphones by DrDre).
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>>46996293
It's a portable device so it makes sense to carry more shit around to connect.
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>>46996318
More ports would have increased the overall weight and the size of the logic board, leaving less room for battery.
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>>46996950
So what about the new Chromebook Pixel? Similar size, form factor, build, and battery life, but cheaper, and with more usable ports.
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>>46996950
>>46996976
The new ZenBook does things even better than apple, for like half the cost.
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>>46996950
It was more of an aesthetic and lifestyle choice by Apple. The way they envision (force) you to use the Macbook is with the cloud for storage and data transfer, and bluetooth or WiFi for everything else.

If you are hooked into the Apple ecosystem this is not a problem for you. Apple people will already have an Airport, the Apple wireless keyboard, and magic mouse. Just need the one port to connect to your Thunderbolt Display and you are good. Use Airplay or bluetooth for everything else.

Don't need an sd slot because you are using your iPhone as a camera. IF you do need one or anything else, it is attached to your Thunderbolt display at home.

I think that are actually breaking a pattern by using an open standard for the one port. It would be more like apple to use the Lightning or Thunderbolt port so that you would half to buy a licensed product to connect.
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>>46996468
They think they're actually rich because they own overpriced shit while the people who use their brains care about stuff that matters. Can't help but notice that those are mostly materialistic niggers.
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>>46997911
This
I'm not sure if it's anywhere else, but in america it's commonplace to get into debt to look richer
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>>46996950
>being this gay
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>>46996976
The pixel is 160% heavier and 120% thicker.
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>>46996171
Wait a minute, you're telling me I can't use an external HD and charge the laptop at the same time?
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>>46996907
Actually, it is a portable device so you don't carry around shit to connect. You leave all that shit at home.
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>>46998252
How can all you not see that this was a design announcement? Apple isn't trying to sell the shit out of this laptop, in fact if they updated the MBA with a retina screen (which could have easily happened) this thing wouldn't sell.

What it IS, is a platform for future Intel Y-series CPUs. As the 14nm fabrication matures and they move to 10nm, Apple can keep reusing the same design of this laptop easily for the next 5-7 years. $0 has to go into design, that saves them a shitton of money.

Skylake will have Rezence wireless charging capabilities BUILT-IN to the fucking SoC. That's why there's only one port. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rezence_(wireless_charging_standard)

>Power transfer up to 50W
Gee...that sounds awfully similar to the current wired charging adapter shipping with the Macbook.

When Intel moves to 10nm with full DDR4, the battery life will start shooting through the roof. That's why they spent a ton of time talking about physical battery design in the keynote. Do it once, and you've got a device that you can plug and play Intel's SoC's on for the next 5-7 years and be worthwhile enough to justify the Apple upgrade cycle. Apple's releases will be synchronized with Intel's (that's why Intel is cutting the Broadwell release cycle short and moving to Skylake).
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>>46997026
The $700 UX305 only gets you a 5Y10, 1080p, and a sub-6 hour battery life.
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>>46998668
You can but you'll have to daisy chain or have an adapter. You won't be able to daisy chain if your HDD isn't Type C
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>>46998707
>Rezence
>not Qi

they're retarded, literally retarded.
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>>46997295
There is no connector to go from C to Thunderbolt.
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>>46998731
>Board member companies[9] include Broadcom, Gill Electronics, Integrated Device Technology (IDT),[10] Intel,[11][12] Qualcomm, Samsung Electronics,[13] Samsung Electro-Mechanics, and WiTricity.[14]

Well you better get used to it
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>>46996171
Am I seriously the only one here who goes weeks without plugging in two things at the same time? Including the fucking power adapter.
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>>46998668
It's not even like USB-C isn't a great idea, but just imagine that for every device you want to connect, rather than just a single unplug/plug, you now have to unplug/plug/unplug/plug.

Assuming you only have the power cable in half of the time you're using it, you'd still up the number of connections to the port by 50%.

Also keep in mind that coaxial power connectors/magsafe ports are designed to take more connect cycles than anything else.
Even if you use adapters, unless you leave them plugged in while you transport the thing, that's still another plug/unplug cycle every time you get it out.

This thing will have the lifetime of a fucking smartphone.
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>>46997911
>>46998064
Everybody on /g/ knows that consumer tech is overpriced and underpowered, so why do you continue to project like if this is your personal blog?
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>>46998707
Apple is also basically subsidizing the design costs onto the backs of the iSheep that are going to by this 1st gen PoS. It's kind of hilarious but at least it'll mean the price should come down in the future if they do reuse this hardware design for a while.
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I'm not sure who the ridicule is directed at

macfags will buy this in droves and everyone will be happy on both sides f the transaction
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Has anyone seen what the new charger looks like? I wager it will have a USB port built-in.
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>>46998778
>unplug/plug/unplug/plug.
Your apple mouse and keyboard connect via bluetooth. You no longer need thumb drives because we can share files through the internet. All you have left is a charger. If you want an external monitor, you're probably doing something more serious and would also want the extra power of the macbook pro.
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>Buying a new macbook air which has less functionality, is weaker, and more expensive
>because its slightly thinner and lighter
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>>46998777
80% of the time I have these plugged in: power, network, keyboard, mouse, usb headphones, audio.
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>>46998889
Are you retarded? The new MacBook Air is the same price as before but with upgraded innards.
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>>46998905
oh and my external monitor of course
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>>46998848
I bet they'll stick a fucking USB type b connector on it or something equally deprecated.

If it's on the end of the plug, it'll make the plug bulky and the macfags will cry.

If it's on the transformer, it'll have shitloads of fucking interference with all that extra cable and being located right next to the power lines.
Also consider if the port busts you have to buy a whole new power supply. Yeah it's cheaper than a new laptop, but it's still a fucking con.

The only reasonable option is you have everything go through a hub, and fuck knows how that'll manage the 12V line without frying everything
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>>46998905
>>46998922
And you probably want more than a 1.1ghz dual core. Apple has a different laptop for you.
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>>46998914
>Core M
>Less ports
>Upgraded
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>>46998914
I think what he's saying is that what Apple have done here are make a new and shittier version of the Air without naming it as such. The fact that there still is an Air at the same price but with better specs drives home his point. There's no reason to be impressed with a shitty reboot of a concept just because it's slightly thinner and lighter than its own line's predecessors.
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>>46998955
It has an i5 and the same amount of ports you fucking idiot.
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>>46998949
So did ASUS. It's 8 years old and way cheaper. But I admit it's not pencil thin and feather light
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>>46998958
>he

Where was their gender indicated?
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>>46999000
>their
Where was his plurality indicated?
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IT'S REVOLUTIONARY
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>>46998888
Nobody doing serious work relies on wireless keyboards and mice.
Having to constantly have a pack of batteries on hand, or carry around yet more charging equipment is a fucking joke, nevermind the latency.
I would actually rather just stick with the trackpad than use wireless input methods that can cut out at any second, and I absolutely hate trackpads.

Removable storage is still a thing, and isn't going anywhere. We had floppies, then CDs, SD cards and now USB sticks. The format might change, but removable storage is still necessary for more people.
I'm not saying that people need 10 things connected at once, but if and when they do, having to take off the power and replace it later is putting yet more strain on the most vital port.

Imagine if someone made a phone that got rid of the microusb/lightning port and just had power/data through the 3.5mm audio jack.
You can't put every IO through a single port and not consider the extra strain you are putting on your only fucking option.
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>>46999008
>2015
>being illiterate

pronoun
1.
(a form of the possessive case of they used as an attributive adjective, before a noun):
"their home; their rights as citizens; their departure for Rome."
2.
(used after an indefinite singular antecedent in place of the definite masculine form his or the definite feminine form her):
"Someone left their book on the table. Did everyone bring their lunch?"
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>>46999051
>Imagine if someone made a phone that got rid of the microusb/lightning port and just had power/data through the 3.5mm audio jack.
Not the Anon to whom you're replying, but that sounds like a cool phone.
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>>46999065

pronoun
1.
the male person or animal being discussed or last mentioned; that male.
2.
anyone (without reference to sex); that person:
He who hesitates is lost.
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>>46996171
>News media, social media and 4chan blowing up about ONLY ONE PORT for days.
>It actually has two ports.
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>>46996305
Kek'd
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>>46999079
>plug in headphones with slightly too much force
>phone is now cut off from the physical world, 80% battery remaining and counting

Yeah no
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>>46999090
>anyone (without reference to sex)
Deprecated.

http://english.stackexchange.com/questions/30455/is-using-he-for-a-gender-neutral-third-person-correct
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>>46999104
Well if I plug into my microUSB port with slightly too much force, I can disable my sole charging port too.

Just to be clear, my point is not about the relative fragility of 3.5mm and microUSB connectors, because the post to which I was replying wasn't about that either. It was about strain on a port, and the consequences of failure for a single multi-function port. This applies to both phones as they are today and this alternative possibility that I found cool.
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>>46996468
LOL my idiot friend bought a Razer Kraken headset. I indirectly called him a retard many times. (I.e. I changed his computer wallpaper to a slideshow of five good headphones in the same price range)

>He owns a cooler Master mechanical keyboard and two IBM model M's.
>last night he tells me about how he destroyed a model M with paint
>pleasekillyourself.png
>"i bought a Razer black widow"
>i start shouting.
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>>46999051
>Nobody doing serious work relies on wireless keyboards and mice.
alright m8
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They could easily have fit more ports on there.
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>>46998609
With shit battery life, compared and a shit track pad. Seriously, Apple has God tier track pads, everything else fucking sucks, windows even makes the apple track pad shit in boot camp. It's like windows hasn't been designed to handle track pads at all, and it's just been translated to mouse input. Windows has shit trackpad smoothing and horrible gesture and scroll support.
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>>46999051
Name a few professions where wireless latency will make a big deal. Streaming on twitch doesn't count. Fuck me, you're a fucking spastic cunt.
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>>46999092
No that's a jack anon....
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>>46999051
>Nobody doing serious work relies on wireless keyboards and mice.
Half of our project managers and engineers use wireless peripherals, modern wireless mice last months.
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>>46998707
>>46998731
>Samsung double-dipping into both wireless charging standards
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>>46999451
That would be less profitable anon.
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>>46999451
see
>>46996950
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>>46999451
>no hdmi
>no microsd card reader

do you work for apple? do you aspire to?
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>>46999451
honestly, having 2 USB ports would be enough. I want to be able to use a mouse while charging without an external hub
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>>46999490
Well yeah, you could have those instead. They'd be about the same size. Just proving a point.
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>>46999436
Yes but you have to replace the batteries 3 times a year and it fucks up your workflow for the next 3 weeks. /s

Wireless mice and keyboards are great. Less wires to piss you off if more than a worthwhile trade off for charging a handful of times per year.

I'd even say the Mac trackpads are actually bearable for serious work, which is great if you're not at your desk with the computer connected to an external display.
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>>46996318
That's actually a good idea. So of course Apple won't do that.
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>>46998609
>if I use percentages it'll seem like a big deal when the difference in size is in the millimeters and the difference in weight is less than half a pound

You'd have a point if it were a difference between a much larger laptop and the Macbook, but it's not.
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>>46999392
Out of my entire post, that is what you choose to pick out?
The latency isn't massive and most people probably don't notice it or care, but it is still a drawback I'd prefer to not have.
People are always going on about how apple trackpads are so much greater than everyone elses, but then it's "not a problem" if wireless peripherals are slow?
A selling point when it works, and not important when it doesn't, as always with Apple.

>>46999436
The frequency of changing them is not the issue, the random nature of them going is what bothers me.
Why have something so "portable" and easy to use "on the go" if a vital part of that can just stop working at any time?
It'd be like having a car with a magical 1000 gallon tank, but no fuel gauge.
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>>46998980
That guy doesn't know the difference between the Air and this single port piece of shit.
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>>46999555
>difference in weight is less than half a pound

You aren't good at math, are you?
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>>46996950
>that much room for batteries
>9 hours
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>>46998777

No. I don't even remember when I plugged anything but power in my laptop. I would figure this is also true for 90% of ultraportable users. That's what apple figured when they made it.
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>>46999259
omg xdddd that's so funny xdd
ur so random ;3333
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>>46999679

The good thing about Apple is that they give shy numbers for battery life. So, when Dell says their XPS 13 lasts 15 hours, you can expect to get half of that. When Apple says you get 12 hours out of the MBA, you will get 15 hours. This isn't because Apple is nice to their customers but because they were once sued for too optimistic numbers.
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>>46999792
I usually see people with two/three devices
1. charge cable
2. USB mouse
3. occasionally a thumb drive
if the mouse is Bluetooth then 2 isn't a problem, but external portable storage might be.

again 2 ports would have been a much better solution.
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>>46998777
>>46999792
I made this same point in an earlier thread, that I don't plug things into my laptop and I don't think it's too uncommon these days. And I'm not even using an ultraportable. It's not that I go out of my way to avoid it, but that the hardware and service options have readily replaced the need.
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>>46999847
>USB mouse

That's because you only see your basement dwelling nerd friends(1-5% of netbook users) and not the social 90%.
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>>46999917
>netbook

I meant to write ultraportable.
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>>46999847

> 9 hours battery
> Blutooth mouse
> Use the cloud you paranoid fuck.
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>>46999963
Not like apple users ever had a problem with that...
(the happening)
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>>46996171
leek design tho
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>>47000000
Ohhhh shit! He got it! 47 millionth /g/ post wasted on an Apple thread.
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>>47000000
Apple GET
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>>47000000
goddamn it I missed the get...
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>>47000000
Wasted get
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>>47000000
leek get?
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>>46996305
TOP FUCKIN KEK
Screenshotted that post
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>>47000023
apple has created the world's first Hex get
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>>46999483
slight
sliight
sliiiiiiight
Weight increase
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>>47000000
>>47000000
>>47000000
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>>46996171
Fucking hell - It's been a long fucking time
a few years but you just showed me one of the greatest memes of all time
hahahahaha that fucking video
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>>46999051
I dont believe anyone wanting to do "serious" work is going to buy this Mac in the first place, might as well just get the Mac Pro for that.
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>>47000000
posting in a leek thread
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>>47000000
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>>47000000
very good repeating digits
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>>46999847
For the record I do think that one port is retarded, but MacBook users tend to not use the charge cable on-the-go (because of the battery life) or mouses (because of the better trackpad).
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>>47000000
/board

well, time to shut it down. been fun everybody!
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>His hair was messy and was wearing his expensive suit
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>>47000000
gg nigga
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>>47000000
>>47000000
>>47000000
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>>47000100
I can understand.
I hate trackpads personally (even on the Air), and I'm not a fan of charging more devices (mouse).
I guess not only is the price not for me, but even if it was, the I/O isn't for me either. My best bet would be to move on and hope the industry won't fully follow Apple to a 1 port design.
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seriously though Apple have made a huge fuckin mistake havent they? Surely nobody is going to buy this shit are they?
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MacBook Pros are fine, but iPhone and other Apple products are just plain shit. MacBook Pro is the only Apple product I would get and I already have one.
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>>47000237
Mah nigga.
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>>47000000
fuck you asshole
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>>46996318
That would defeat the entire fucking purpose of only having a type c. If you include the legacy ports we're doomed to never adopt the new standard. Is /g/ actually fucking retarded or something?
>>46996893
>>46997295
>>46998707
>>46998716
>>46998719
>>46998778
>>46998848
>>46998888
>>46998889
>>46998905
>>46998914
>>46998922
>>46998940
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>>47000000
Thread derail status: Derailed
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>>47000000
Absolute degeneracy
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Not often a thread on /g/ is worth spending time in but this has been a really memorable and great /g/ thread, we need more as good as these lulz have been
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>>47000000
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>>46996171
Seminal thread
at last we have the Apple twats on the run
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>>47000000

>lökig (leeky/onionish) means "cheesy" in swedish

Apple confirmed for cheesy design. BTFO
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>>46999375
>shit track pad
All track pads are shit, even Apple ones. The only purpose of a track pad is for very brief usage where it's not worth the time to connect a mouse.
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>>47000500
Finally someone gets it
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Can anyone show me more videos ripping the piss out of apple? I loved that video of ops and watched it about 5 times now - mayne that was funny
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>>47000557
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9S6te7Dy8Q
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so tell me
can i plug my iDevice™ into this thing?
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>>47000557
Original parody is best parody:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4bred83AKk
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>>47000000
leek get confirmed
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>>46998778
>This thing will have the lifetime of a fucking smartphone.
>thats_the_point.jpg
Planned obsolescence is a thing you know.
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>>47000000
epigk
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>>47000664
>>47000597
thank you

but guys you have to admit the ops video is FUCKIN FUNNY
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>>46999000

Where do you think we are?
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>>47000000
Dang gurl
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>>46999490
USB 3 Type-C can have built in DisplayPort, and by extension Thunderbolt.
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>>46999792
You've never seen commuters using those Verizon/WhateverTelecom USB sticks to use 4g internet? Especially in airports? I can already see the frustrated dumbasses sitting next to a wall and unable to do anything on their laptop because it's charging.
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>>47000500
I guess you've only used non-apple ones. I'm a programmer and I only use my mbp's trackpad.
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>>47000000
>leek design
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>>47000000
>>47000000
>>47000000
In an Apple thread

>nowadays /g/ in a nutshell
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>>47000955
(not that anon) I always see them using wireless hotspots
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>>47000841
Eh, I'm really sick of that new video, like it's been so overused lately.
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>>46996171

As if we can't get enough of this laptop, the rumour mill is off saying that they invented the USB-C standard. I smell a huge pile of shit here, I really do.
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>>46999000
Who fucking gives a shit, you retarded double nigger faggot.
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>>47000000
chekd'em
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>>47000941
>by extension Thunderbolt.

Wut?

Thunderbolt is external PCIe, which means direct access to RAM.
You can't have that through USB.

Thunderbolt is dead, NSA cries.
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>>46996171
that is by far the funniest video /g/ showed me
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>>47001079
wow - I think that too
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>>47000982
hahahaha Apple designer of the year detected
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god why i am i so ordinary - why cant i make a video that funny?
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>>47000500
If you have to use a mouse at all. Most things should be doable without ever leaving the keyboard. It's faster that way.
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>>47000500
If you honestly think this then it's pretty clear you've never used an Apple trackpad.
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>>47000000
Not as leek as this tho
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>>46999000
Where was your gender indicated, BITCH?
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>>46999154
No, it really was about the relative fragility of the connectors.

Nice try, dumbass. MicroUSB is much less prone to eating shit than a fucking 3.5mm jack.
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>>46999499
>my personal needs are the needs of the people
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>>46996185
Do you really think apple took out USB ports to save costs? Like are you this retarded?
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SPOILER

Next time Apple will announce a new MacBook PRO.
It will cost $1800 base, $3000 with max stats
The max stats will be average compared to an acer 1/3 the cost.

/SPOILER
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this toothless mexican engineer sure gets around, he must be some kind of genius
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>mfw I used to like Apple products before Tim Cook took over
>this is just fucking ridiculous
>and people will still buy it
>fuck Tim Cook and his, not just expensive, but offensively overpriced shit. I'm building a Hackintosh when my iMac kicks the bucket.
>mfw this video tho
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>>47001608
>MicroUSB is much less prone to eating shit than a fucking 3.5mm jack.
Only if you're autistic and throw things down like a fucking money.
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>>47001991
monkey even
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>>46998777
So remind me again why that makes it ok to charge 1200 USD for something that could be made to satisfy casual users like yourself for under 600.
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>>46999520
Are you from the past? My logitech mouse lasts more than a year and its advertised with 180days battery life.
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>>46999490
>microsd
>wanting deprecated data storage
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>>47000305
Yeah, because because having USB 2 ports on my PC totally prevented me from using the USB 3 ones. Just like my HDD prevents me from using an SSD and my DVD disc drive prevents me from using Bluray. Man, why am I so behind in technology? I wish someone would force me to use newer technology. I know! I'll go buy a new Macbook™ from Apple so that I can use the lastest tech!
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>>47000000
kek
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>>46999451
Hell they could have just added a second one, that way I can charge it and plug a new fancy c-usb drive in without using a dongle. But no, Tim Crook decides that they won't make enough cash off 17000 18k gold watches.

>tfw Apple macbook announced.
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>>46999499
>using a mouse
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>>47000000
ayy
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>>46996171
it was funny the first time, now it's annoying, why do people do this?
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>>47004156
>not celebrating a get
>mass quoting
fuckoff
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>>47004156
OP here, pls leave my thread you niggerfaggot
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>>47004206

OP here, fuck off faggot
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>>46996171
I think the people defending this literally don't understand that you charge through the USB port now.
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>>46996171
FUCKING EPIC XDDdXddxdD i love reposted memes
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>>46996171
Supposedly we will be moving to a mostly wireless world.

Wireless keyboards, mice, storage, monitors, no ethernet, etc.
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