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>Steam Machines actually look well-spec'd and well-priced
http://store.steampowered.com/sale/steam_machines
>Vulkan gaphics API works surprisingly well with linux
https://www.khronos.org/vulkan ; http://store.steampowered.com/sale/steamos_sale/?snr=1_4_4__40_1
>Steam Controller actually looks pretty intuitive
http://store.steampowered.com/universe/controller/
>HTC Vive isn't the only HMD Valve intends to help put out
http://www.engadget.com/2015/03/04/valve-steam-vr-initiative/
>Project Lighthouse is solving virtual reality's input problems
http://www.engadget.com/2015/03/04/valve-vr-input/
>"Our SteamVR APIs are free to use and come with everything you love about Steam, but they can also be leveraged without it. We call this alternate version of our APIs OpenVR. OpenVR includes all the same great capabilities, minus Steam."
http://store.steampowered.com/universe/vr/

What do you think about what Valve is doing, /g/?
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>>46871543
Something worth the weight
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>>46871543
Tell me op, how much does Steam pay you to shill here?
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>>46871543
>>Steam Machines actually look well-spec'd and well-priced
kek'd heartedly, thanks OP
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>>46871571
There aren't any fucking shills on this god forsaken board you autist.
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>well priced
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>>46871543
>543
>3
Half life 3 confirmed steam box exclusive
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>>46871571
>>>/g/tv
>>46871572
>>46871625
Niggas they're prebuilts; I'd buy one of these for a friend's living room and that's what they're marketing to. Of course none of you would buy them; I wouldn't even buy one for myself because we're not the people they're meant for.
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Those prices are p. terrible for US markets

Also it doesn't even say the name of the components, for all we know they are putting 4790k cpus on H81 mobos

>>46871571
Nobody is actually paid anything to shill on /g/, that's the sad part, they do it for free

>>46871653
But this is basically ripping people off
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>>46871653
>we're not the people they're meant for.
The problem is they're not meant for anyone.
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>>46871650
> underrated post
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None of those look reasonably priced

Also they only advertise cpu and gpu, inb4 exploding steam machines due to shitty chinese psu
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>See one that is priced $699
>I wonder what it comes with
>Pentium processor
>GTX 960(meh)
>8gb ram
>1tb SPINNING hard drive.

$68 processor with a $250-$300 video card, what the fuck?

Could probably build a computer with similar specs for $450, although I would not get a $68 processor.
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>>46871543
>surprisingly well with linux
What's surprising about it?
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>>46871673
>Also it doesn't even say the name of the components, for all we know they are putting 4790k cpus on H81 mobos
Yeah, I didn't notice that. :/ I take back what I said.
>But this is basically ripping people off
Wouldn't say it's ripping people off; anyone who's going to buy one of the costlier iterations is surely going to do their research. Which at that point they'll probably end up assembling their own rig. I'm more interested in ZOTAC and GIGABYTE's tbh.
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>>46871673
>But this is basically ripping people off
No worse than apple or "cloud" services
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>>46871543
>Steam Controller actually looks pretty intuitive
ahahahaha yeah, no that controller is pure garbage
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>>46871753
That is actually works.

This whole thing has been a PR mess for Valve for the past two years.
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>>46871543
>Steam Machines actually look well-spec'd and well-priced
No they're not. Check the specs. i3 and 750ti for over 1000. i3 and low end nvidia mobile card for over 500.
>Steam Controller actually looks pretty intuitive
No it doesn't. No one wants to play with a touchpad on a controller.
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>>46871786
Were you at GDC this week?
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Steam Link is literally the only decent thing they announced.
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>>46871787
Why?
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>>46871802
>No one wants to play with a touchpad on a controller.
If you think the trackpads have the consistency of a laptop's trackpad or some shit then you're dead wrong.
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So what.. it's just a wannabe console custom PC that's going to run a modified version of Debian? It sounds like a clusterfuck of shit. Console babbies aren't going to buy them. Enthusiasts aren't going to buy them, they'll want to make their own custom builds. And plus it looks like the market is highly saturated with a bunch of different chink builds. The hardware itself is going to fail. However, the software might have a chance.
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>>46871814
Hyping up their expansion of the Steam Universe and then tentatively postponing it for almost two years.

that's why.
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>>46871807
I'm more hyped for SteamVR and the Vive honesty; I don't get the appeal with in-home streaming.
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http://blog.imgtec.com/powervr/trying-out-the-new-vulkan-graphics-api-on-powervr-gpus
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>>46871834
>If you think the trackpads have the consistency of a laptop's trackpad or some shit then you're dead wrong.

I know it has a shitty trackpad instead of a stick, what else is there to know?
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>>46871890
>instead of a stick,
It's has both
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>>46871890
>I know it has a shitty trackpad instead of a stick,
How do you know it's shitty?
>inb4 i-it's a trackpad
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I hear the controller is targeting a 50 burgerbuck price point.

Seems pretty good to me.
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>>46871924
So how are you supposed to play fighting games on it
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>>46871951
The trackpad is very flexible and can be set to emulate button presses.

It's touch sensitive so it knows where you hold your finger, and it can click down to submit input events. So you can split it into quarters and have each quarter send a different button press when the trackpad is clicked.
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>>46871926

Don't be too hard on him. He's probably a poorfag who's never used a MacBook.
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>>46871870
It literally looks exactly the same as the opengl es 3.0 demo

I understand it's only meant to be a simple demo but why even show it when it's obvious you can use vulkan for it too?
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>>46871951
>playing 2d fighting games in 2015
Why?
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>well priced
>$5 THOUSAND DOLLARS
what the FUCK
you must get paid in gold
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imo a mouse and keyboard isn't always the most comfortable but if you can get used to it, it's the most advantageous in a lot of games.
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>>46871990
Because
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>>46871673
>they do it for free
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>>46872012
>>>/g/tv
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>>46872012
>Low end: $450
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>>46871948
I'd rather use an xbox one controller
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>>46872015
It isn't the best for some types of games
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multiple machines of different specs? man, casuals are going to chew this shit out.
>buy the lowest priced one because it is priced similarly to competing consoles
>turns out it cannot play half the games the competitors can even at less quality graphics since all games aren't optimized to that one medium
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>>46872168
This
They need to attack the console market which is mostly low end machines these days
They can't be competitive like this
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>>46872168
>all games aren't optimized to that one medium
consoles this generation are literally x86 pcs and the new graphics api allows for more optimization

There's literally no problem here.
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>>46871595
Well i wouldn't say there aren't ANY...
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>>46872229
>new graphics api allows for more optimization
remember anon, it allows more optimization, but that doesn't mean the devs will care enough to do it
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>>46872229
then we will see if this steam box can run crysis at 30 fps like last gens consoles

because that is what casuals care about.
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>>46871843
>Steam postponing

Well, nothing new there.
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I wonder if these can serve as an HTPC. If they do it probably wouldn't support mkv or anything unfortunately.
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I don't understand the steam machine designs.

Why isn't there a 7850k + 290x + ram soldered to a single board and then covered with one vapour chamber or waterblock?

By putting everything on one board and only having a single varient you cut production costs over a traditional PC. Even if it's not upgradable you would end up with a ~$900 pc that beats everything in it's pricepoint.
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>What do you think about what Valve is doing, /g/?

doesnt affect the games im playing, so i dont think much about it

might change my mind if i get a VR headset in future or whatever, but ill leave the current shit to the nerds
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>>46872286
>remember anon, it allows more optimization, but that doesn't mean the devs will care enough to do it
Good point
game engine devs are lazy

but if these take off they'll literally have to start writing games that can preform well on the cheapest steamboxes :^)
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>>46872359
>actually considering getting a VR headset
die
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>>46871543
While some of the steam machines seem pretty promising I don't see the ones over a thousand selling well at all.
One of them says up to $5000. Who the fuck do they think is going to buy that?
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>>46872387
I will get one when there's FOSS VR waifu software
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Cautiously optimistic.
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Seriously lack of r7 265s

It's a good budget gpu
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>>46872394
Somebody with more money than sense
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> Steam machines
Well spec'd - yea.
Well priced - not really.

Also, I get the idea that just running your own Linux will be more fun.

> Linux & Khronos
Not like OpenGL or whatever was the problem - it mostly was just nvidia / ati's drivers.

> Steam controller
I can kinda dig the design to a good extent, but I worry about the manufacturing quality.

> VR
Not sure. Not sure at all. Probably shit.
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>>46872422
Well yeah but who the fuck is going to buy a steam machine specced like this?
>ORIGIN OMEGA Steam Machine
>Price: $899 - $4,999+ USD
>CPU: Up to an Intel® Core™ i7 4770k
>GPU: Up to 3-WAY NVIDIA® Geforce® GTX 980
>Memory: Up to 32GB of 1866Mhz
>Storage: Up to 14TB
Not to mention everything but the GPU's is overkill for gaming. Although the starting at $899 bit might make it reasonable for a normal person, assuming you get something along the lines of an i5, 980, and 2tb drive.
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>>46872483
to play tha gayms fast

I really don't know they'll probably be able to trick some normalfag into paying for more than they need like always.
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>>46871857
Been contemplating how to set up a home theater with a projector.

in-home streaming seems brilliant for this; I can have a typical theater set up without coming up with some sort of desktop set up in the back of the room and I can spend time on the couch.

Granted I didn't put too much thought into how to use a mouse and keyboard on this regard but If I map out a intranet that wont be an issue.
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>http://store.steampowered.com/app/353450/?snr=1_614_615_steammachines_616_5

>Steam Machine
>Intel Hd 5200
>$600
>mfw

This is why steam machines will fail
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>>46872598
Looks like it doesn't even come with ram and storage
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>>46871751
>he thinks games are able to utilize multiple cores properly.
>implying a cooked g3258 isn't all you need
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>>46872598
neat little form factor though. I wonder why Valve didn't go with the Gaming version of the BRIX; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGI8iYjk0rc
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>>46872637
Do you think games access cpu cores directly or what?
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Microsoft will dump their last penny to stay relevant

sorry gabe but you better be ready to fight the long battle.
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>>46872572
I've never had a theater set up of my own so that's understandable.
>Granted I didn't put too much thought into how to use a mouse and keyboard on this regard but If I map out a intranet that wont be an issue.
You could always get the Steam Controller, :^)
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>>46872653
Hes trying to say that games wont be utilizing CPU as much now that Mantle/Vulcan/DirectX12 are gonna be changing things a bit...
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Yes but how do things run compared to their windows version?

Does all this steam universe thing really matter if you still get 20~30 less FPS, screen tearing and random glitches?

I hope for the best but we need to look at this realistically
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>VR
Holy fuck, are people still trying to make this shit technology a thing?

Look, it's useless until we get fucking holodecks, so until we do, stop making shit technology and getting excited and paying a billion goddamn dollars for it.
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>>46872739
>he doesn't run games on GNU/Linux already
Everything runs better on my system than it ever did when I had windows installed, including games.
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>>46872693
>steam controller

It looks neat. But I'll wait and see.

>>46872681
>that gatorade bottle setup

Just get a proper dab kit, what the fuck?
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>>46873037
Confirmed for being a luddite.
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>>46873108
Confirmed for being a fucking idiot.

Luddites hate all technology. I don't. Idiots love bad technology. Like you.
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>>46873037
http://www.maximumpc.com/valve%E2%80%99s_vr_experience_closest_thing_holodeck_we_have_2015

It's far from useless; if people are capable of feeling presence in Oculus' first dev kit from two two years ago then the Vive will certainly up to the hype.
>>46873164
>Confirmed for being a fucking idiot.
Speak for yourself.
>Luddites hate all technology.
Actually, what you're referring to are primitivists; the luddites of the Industrial Revolution destroyed technology because their bosses weren't giving them enough pay. neoluddites are the progressives to the tech industry today; if you want a primer then read Chellis Glendinning's "Notes towards a Neo-Luddite manifesto."
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>>46873231
*two *live up to

I can't type tonight.
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>>46872637
>he thinks games are able to utilize multiple cores properly.

A few of the recently released games don't even run at all without a quad core.
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>>46873301
Those are dev locks and nothing more. They have patches to bypass it and they play fine.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAzBJnkqZDw
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>>46871543
>>Steam Machines actually look well-spec'd and well-priced
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>>46873330
Yet you took the time to post.
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>>46873164
Given your hostility, it seems like you're incensed with hate. What about the new VR wave makes you hate it so much?
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>>46873348
Unlike you kids, I've seen VR come and go and it's always shit. Doesn't matter that now it's "improved", it's still the same stopgap, dumb technology people are wasting their time on.

This shit is going to be the future because dumb people can't understand something so simple.
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>>46873387
People that are working on VR are fully aware of the failures of the past. It isn't anything like the crap from the 80s and 90s. Abrash who started the project at Valve started working on VR only because he saw the technology has advanced enough to make it work.

My dad actually used one of the quarter of a million VR prototypes at a convention in 89. It was a joke compared to what we have now. Even he sees that.
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>>46871977
Easily the best part of the mac
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>>46873387
So have you used one?
Your opinion is pretty worthless if you haven't.
Not like it matters- you're the type of person who's dead set on their opinion and won't change it for anything. Even if the best thing ever got released and you tried it- you would deny that it was any good just so it didn't clash with your worldview.
You have a closed mind my friend, and you're complaining about people that have minds so open their brains are falling out.
There's a middle ground and you're not in it.
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>>46873387
Why are you so upset at new VR tech? Where you one of the people who bought the virtual boy?
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>>46873387
The thing is, this isn't the same shit.

The old VR systems were bullshit. Heavy ass helmets, low FOV, extreme nausea-inducing latency, grossly bad resolution, etc. All of those problems are nearly solved (resolution and input are the only outliers now, where valve is handling input and resolution will be handled in a couple more years but it's good enough for gaming now).

I've tried both Disney's shitty VR at Disney Quest, and I've tried both the Oculus Rift DK1 and Crescent Bay. The difference between Disney's old VR and the current tech (including graphics rendering power) is absolutely night and day.
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>>46873387
The more you talk the more it seems like you're saying a whole lot of nothing.

Everyone knows the first VR wave was shit because it WAS shit. Nintendo only launched the Virtual Boy as a means to ease everyone into buying the N64; they by no means thought it was going to sell at all.

Do you honestly think that today's VR HMDs are the same as they were back in the day? Do you think everyone's going to be antisocialites once this tech goes mainstream?

Are you a fucking idiot?
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>>46871653
FUCK THE PREBUILTS

They're a waste of fucking money. Build a real PC and then just use the new Steam Link to do the exact same thing a prebuilt would do.

Except now you can have a smaller footprint next to your TV, and you can hide the fucking monstrosity your built in your basement/room.
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>>46873556
Not everyone has Ethernet or ac wireless running through their house.
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>>46873578
If they don't, then why would they bother with a Steam Box to begin with?
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>>46871571
>/g/
>having a job
Error: Does not compute lel.
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>Steam pushes GTA 5 to April

>Inb4 Steam pushes their hardware to January 2016!!!
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>>46871653
So you would willingly rip off your fried.
What a terrible friend
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>non-free software

I hope it fails.
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>>46873578
if you have something like u-verse, there'll be ethernet right beside the tv
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>>46874204
No, I'd willingly rip myself off because I'm the one buying it and at least want my tech illiterate friend to game on open software.

what an idiot I am.
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>>46872598
Intel Iris is a bit better then the HD series, still not great tho
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>>46871951
you don't play fighting games on it nigger you get the htc/steam vive and fucking fight for real in VR

don't be a pussy
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>>46871543
Valve is literally the based god.
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>>>/v/
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>>46871543

>/g/ - Video games
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>>46875608
>>46875630
No video games have been mentioned in this thread; you two have no idea what you're talking about.
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>>46871653
Who are they meant for?

People who are too retarded to get a decent pc and who doesn't care about missing out on all the console exclusives?

Steam machines and Steam OS are shit and they deserve to fail miserably
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>>46873037
It's like a Kinect, but since it covers your entire range of vision you won't be able to see anyone judging you
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