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>40 of my wats
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At least post a link faggot

http://shield.nvidia.com/console
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http://anandtech.com/show/9047/nvidia-announces-shield-console-tegra-x1-android-tv-box-shipping-in-may

>40W Power Adapter
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>>46844710
>THE WORLD'S FIRST ANDROID TV CONSOLE

There was the Ouya you know
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>>46844732
Shut up you faggot NVIDIA ARE BEING INNOVATIVE
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>>46844710
I don't get what the point of this device but ok cool I guess
seriously even if I had it now for free I can't think of a reason why would I turn it on
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>>46844802
It has 1TFlop of FP16 power, how can you not want that?
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>$200
>For a fucking 360 with multiplatform games only

Ok Nvidia please die as a brand already
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>>46844710
POWER OF THE OU.. I MEAN SHIELD
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>>46844855
Yeah but it only needs a 40W power adapter, isn't that great for a mobile SoC?
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>>46844710
http://shield.nvidia.com/games/grid

WTF?
Are those games Android Native?
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>>46844710
It looks like what the Xbox One should have looked like for nostalgia reasons.
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>so powerful it can run memelands at 15 fps

#whoa #wow #thefutureisnow
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I wonder how bad it's going to flop
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I wonder if I can buy the controller separate and use it for my desktop.
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>>46845079
It's probably worth the risk for Nvidia. It's not like they're short on budget. If the pricing is right they might be able to sell this thing. No one expected the original Wii to sell either. But they shouldn't focus on high end graphics and performance only in their advertising imo.
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How about some interesting games?
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for a monthly premium you can have 60 whats.
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>>46845388
They promise a 50+ game library and new games will be released every week which will probably be ports but that's not too bad for a new console. Of course these games aren't new so you might have played some of them already but for the casual gamer this doesn't matter
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worse graphics than a pee u?

no thanks
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>>46844710
Shouldn't we look at this as basically an updated Jetson with a case?
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Hope the bootloader is unlocked, it will make a nice linux pc.

While the first version is underwhelming hardware wise if they update it yearly it should beat the PS4 specs by next year.

Can the xbone and PS4 go down to $199 in time? Samsung is claiming 10nm in 2016.
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>>46845133
The thing about the Wii is they had the Nintendo brand behind it, a word that is a synonym for videogame console with a lot of regular people.

Nvidia may as well be another random chink company as far as they're concerned. The people familiar with the brand aren't going to want it either as a game playing platform or as an android box, which they'd be savvy enough to shop around for for less since they'd just be watching movies with it.

It's going to be a disaster.
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>>46844891

>grid

those games are not android native, you have to buy a subscription to stream/play them (like onlive)

if you click the android tab on that page you will see the android native games

this is basically ouya 2.0 and onlive 2.0
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>>46845814
Maybe they will just use it as a Netflix or streaming station like you said. If you have an older TV you can have Smart TV functions for a soft price with this
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>>46844878
People already have a shitty underpowered console that doesn't eat up more than a laptop. It's called a Wii U.
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>>46844710
NEXT-Boxxxxxxxxx behold
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>Nvidia won't die in your lifetime

E N O U G H
N
O
U
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>>46846005
good, then we would be stuck with shitty amd hardware
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>>46845965
One problem. Good luck finding a household that doesn't already own a means to stream Netflix.
Smartphone with MHL, Wii, Wii U, Smart TV, PS3, PS4, Xbox 360, Xbox One, several BD players, the list goes on...
It's going to be hard as fuck to see someone being so casual that they don't even own a Wii to justify buying a SHIELD when their BD player or HDTV probably has Netflix anyway.
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>>46844721
>4k video
>16 gb memory

How the fuck is this thing going to play 4k video?
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>>46844710
check the fucking catalog before you post you fucking faggot.
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>Unleash the power of NVIDIA gaming supercomputers in the cloud,
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It must have a serious GPU and CPU in there. I wonder what the specs are.

In comparison my PC can peak at 600w.
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>>46844722
gotta have that overhead when the gpu sucks more power than stated.
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>>46846026

At least AMD hardware works like advertised...
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>>46846216
i don't remember blazing temperatures being advertised
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>>46846292
fermifire!
somebody call nine wan wan.
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Considering the ports on the box that need to be powered I'm not going to question the 40Watts.

What I will question is whether the new shield will have the behavior of the shield tablet. The tablet needs to be rebooted fairly often and the shitty power management means that the whole race to sleep thing just sort of backfires.
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>>46846337
all of shitty amd hardware runs hot

plus they have shitty drivers, also not advertised
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>>46846292
Fermi cards got hotter than the 200 series ever did.
The 290 series self limits at 90C, the fermis didn't bother doing that.
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>>46846362
Their drivers are fine. Where are you getting your information? Do you just post retarded maymays to justify owning a shitty 960 or 970?
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>>46844710
>2x USB3.0
That's 10watts alone
>GigE
Another 5 watts

Tablet SoC's are on the realm on ~15w TDP

Include 5w in losses from the board itself and you're only looking at ~5w more than a Tablet.
>20watt SoC vs 15watt SoC
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>>46846084
IN DA KKKLOUD

Boy is this the worst buzzword to come out of modern times
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>>46846395

He got memed by nvidia and now suffers from stockholm syndrome...
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This is gonna flop p. hard
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>>46846523
Depends on the price and if we can reflash it.

This or the SteamLink box look like pretty decent HTPC contenders if we can fuck around with the firmware.
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>>46846539
That's a big if
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>>46846557
It is, but if it's not hackable, I'm not buying one.

I'm putting 80% chance on SteamLink being hackable and 40% chance on ShieldConsole
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>>46846661
This thing is pretty much a screenless Shield Tablet, are those hackable?
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>>46846388
>he thinks 90c is justifiable in any way for a modern card
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>>46846686
You can get root and do custom roms yes.
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>>46846691
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>>46846719
I can make graphs too.
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>>46846691
That's IF it ever get's to 90c.

My 290X VaporX has never exceeded 77c and that's with an ambient room temp of 44c.

>Implying I'm going to pay for airconditioning cunt.
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>>46846734
http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/graphics/80854-powercolor-radeon-r9-290-pcs/?page=10
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>comparing your brand new console to a console from a decade ago
genius marketing
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>>46846734

lel fanboy btfo
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>>46846070
what?
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>>46846743

looks like a typical nvidia bullshit graph to me...
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>>46846743
2005
BTFO
TT
F F
O O
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>>46845458
You're a clueless faggot, Pee U is based on AMD's outdated HD5000/6000 architecture while Tegra X1 uses Nvidia's most advanced and efficient Maxwell architecture
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>the world's first android TV console
There are laws against blatant lying in marketing, right?
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>>46846743

Wow, xbox 360 btfo. Just think of all those games, making use of that incredible amount of computing power. I can't wait to play:

ANGRY BIRDS
ANGRY BIRDS SEASONS
ANGRY BIRDS RIO
ANGRY BIRDS SPACE
ANGRY BIRDS STAR WARS
ANGRY BIRDS STAR WARS II
ANGRY BIRDS GO!
ANGRY BIRDS EPIC
ANGRY BIRDS STELLA
ANGRY BIRDS STELLA POP!
ANGRY BIRDS FIGHT
ANGRY BAD PIGGIES
ANGRY BIRDS TRIOLOGY
ANGRY BIRDS TRANSFORMERS
ANGRY BIRDS FRIENDS
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>>46846894
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_TV

>It was announced on June 25, 2014, at Google I/O 2014 as a successor to Google's earlier attempt at smart TV, Google TV.

You're a clueless faggot, stop posting and embarassing yourself if you don't know shit
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>>46845388
I guess it's great for older console emulators (and the Dreamcast)
But you may as well hook up your computer to the TV
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>>46846921
>But you may as well hook up your computer to the TV

Well I'm glad I'm not the only one
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>>46846920
What are you getting so mad about? Nvidia claims that the Shield console is the "world's first android TV console" when that's a blatant lie. What does that have to do with Android TV?
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>>46846975
obvious bait
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>>46846975
Because it is, it's the world's first Android TV console

It's referring to Android TV platform, not Android console

But yeah, waste of time trying to talk to morons like you
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>>46847036
Oh, well that's fucking retarded then.
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>>46847036
because android tv console is soooo diferent than an android console

kill urself my man
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>faggots buy nvidia shield console for skyrim
>realise they can't insert hd texture mod
>nvidia forums flooded
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so this is $199 with controller

razer forge tv is $149 with controller

ouya is $129 with controller
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that tegra chip has a 10 bit h265 decoder iirc.
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>>46847036
Not even, the Nexus Player is the first Android TV console.
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>>46847141
Nexus TV is junk, Intel's Atom SoC can't decode 4K HEVC, the GPU is a joke and certainly can't even compare to the Maxwell GPU in the X1 in performance, power efficiency and graphics feature set
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>ARM

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>>46847121
>$199
Not even worth it as a HTPC even if hackable then.

Show's over everyone, this will fail in the marketplace.
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>>46847121
So, more ports to expand on which /g/ raves about, more powerful gpu/cpu, and plays 4k/60 for 50$ more. Honestly don't see that as a ripoff, but okay.
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>>46847311

the ripoff is the fucking subscriptions
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>>46846084
>Wearing shoes indoors

What the fuck?
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>>46844721

>that webpage layout

RRRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>46847351
How much is it to use grid? Honestly isn't cheap for nVidia to run servers all over..
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>>46847361
>dat hair
>dat shirt
>dose jeans
>dem shoes
its radical!
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>>46847361
He's american
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>>46847402

nvidia will start charging for grid in june with 2 tiers

base subscription - 720p / 30 fps

premium subscription - 1080p / 60 fps

pricing for these subscriptions are not yet announced
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>>46847063
i second that, you are a moron
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>>46844710
man i cant wait to play doom 3 in silky smooth 3.5 fps and rock solid 150ms ping
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>>46847518
>literally paying for frames
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>>46846743
LEL what the fuck is this comparing shit about?
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>>46847518
>>46847563
I can see this happening. Gaming is really about to die. Rip.
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Someone should post a picture of that Timeline they had up that said PS2 came out in the 90s.
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>>46845022
Under-rated post
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>>46847593
and the internet came out 10 years after the ps2
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the last console i bought was a ps2, and i dont really play pc games either

why would i (or some other person) buy this over the xboxone or ps4? whats the purpose?
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>mfw that entire presentation
>the first game reveled for it was Doom 1, 2 and 3
the nervous canned laughter was the worst part very cringe worthy
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>>46844710
It lagged running Borderlands, it lagged running the Talos Principle, it lagged running Doom 3, and it lagged running Crysis. It was fucking embarrassing to watch that presentation. Tegra X1 has the same issue that plagued Tegra 4 and Tegra K1. Its shitty perf/watt and poor IMC stalling when the GPU starts needing to utilize that bandwidth.

>>46846420
You're an absolute fucking retard who has no concept of power consumption at all.
A typical mobile SoC draws 2-4w under load. The A8X in the new iPad draws 2.5w, the entire device pulls about 7.5w.
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>>46844855
It can also stream games from your local gaming PC if it has an Nvidia card. Also will be the best android emulation device yet (I mean hell, the tegra k can play Final Fantasy Type-0 at native resolution on the shield tablet, and some Super Mario Sunshine levels play at full speed), in fact it should actually be able to handle Dolphin pretty well finally.
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>>46847633

dat gif
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>>46847639
the crysis multilayer demo was the worst. the players couldn't even aim with the damn console with was so laggy
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>>46846743
Funny how they won't compare it to the PS4 which is already a year and a half old.
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>>46847662
You could tell how hard they were trying to hide the lag by slowly panning around, but all the dust and debris being blown in the wind was freezing and stuttering.
It was pathetic.
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Why are they trying to break into a market that they will never be able to break into?

Anyone with half a brain can see how hard this will flop.

Whoever is in charge of Nvidias R&D should get the fuck out.
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Why would they compare it to inferior PS4?

PS4 can't decode 4K H.264, can't decode 4K HEVC and struggles to run games at 1080P, needing resolution to be dropped to 900P
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>>46845814
>The thing about the Wii is they had the Nintendo brand behind it


So did the WiiU and Gamecube and Virtualboy. Those must have sold gr- oh, they sold like shit.

The Wii's sales are all about hitting an under-served demographic at the right time not Nintendo's brand power.
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>>46847311
It's a ripoff compared to SteamLink which does the same shit for $50...
>Muh HEVC tho
No word on HEVC for SteamLink, but HEVC looks like shit anyway, it's like YIFY in every bitrate.

I wanted to like Shield Console for a potential HTPC replacement, but it's getting further and further away from my needs every hour.
>I was never going to buy it as a console device, nor will I buy SteamLink for a vidya device, I only want either as a cheap HTPC box.
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>>46847687
They announced a while back that they were going to be stepping away from the mobile market.
None of their chips could be competitive in performance per watt so they weren't getting any design wins. They're trying to find a market to dump all their chips on so they justify the R&D spent by their mobile division. It has yet to be profitable for them, and they want to recoup their losses in the long run.
So they're shilling their latest Tegra X1 as a car computer/infotainment center, and as a smart TV Android game console.
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>>46847695
PS4's has hardware H.264 encoding and decoding support, and the GPU could easily decode H.265 with an update.
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>>46847720
You're wrong, Tegra has been very profitable and Shield Tablet 2 with Tegra X1 will be out later this year

Keep up your Tegra hate, it's hilarious and pathetic

Tegra X1 is the fastest SoC in the world and nothing can compare to it in performance and power efficiency with Maxwell GPU
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>>46847695
PS4 *can* decode 4K h.264 as it's GCN1.1
No HEVC at all though (well, you could make a decoder in OpenCL, but it'd use far more power than the SIP block decoding HEVC on Maxwell)
However HEVC is a sham, it looks like shit at every bitrate.

H.264 is god for now, VP9 will take the crown.
>nVidia will support VP9 in Tesla, so maybe ShieldConsole 2016 version will be good.
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>>46847729
>, Tegra has been very profitable
No it hasn't, you lying shill. They've been having to eat the cost of their mobile division for years.
The Tegra line is not profitable for Nvidia.
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>>46847723
NOPE.AVI

You need HEVC hardware decode because AMD's junk Jaguar is too weak to decode CPU intensive HEVC

AMD didn't even have working 4K H.264 decoding until Tonga, so neither Xbone or PS4 can even handle 4K H.264 videos, beyond pathetic
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http://www.anandtech.com/show/8460/amd-radeon-r9-285-review/4

>With this newest generation of UVD, AMD is finally catching up to NVIDIA and Intel in H.264 decode capabilities. New to UVD is full support for 4K H.264 video, up to level 5.2 (4Kp60). AMD had previously intended to support 4K up to level 5.1 (4Kp30) on the previous version of UVD, but that never panned out and AMD ultimately disabled that feature

Stop lying, AMDPOORFAGS if you're clueless and don't know shit

GCN 1.0 and GCN 1.1 can't decode 4K H.264 and Xbone and PS4 uses GCN 1.0/1.1
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>>46847743
Keep on lying, AMDPOORFAG

Tegra is profitable for years
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>>46847763
Not natively then, but you can easily offload video decoding to the gpu with no problem.
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>>46847767
>shilling this hard
>shitposting like a 12 year old on /b/

Oh look, its the same little retard who spams this autistic shit in all of his posts.
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>itt nvidia shills damage control
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>>46847729
>>46847767


> Tegra has been very profitable

[Citation Needed]

>Of special note was the company's strength in its embedded Tegra processor business, which grew to $159 million. Although the Tegra represents a bit more than 10 percent of the company's $1.1 billion revenue for the quarter, that business grew by 200 percent compared to a year ago, with 74 percent of that growth in cars.


Revenue =/= Profit, while Tegra has boosted its revenue stream it is not "very profitable".
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>>46847775
You're the one thats shilling so hard, anyone can look at their results and see Tegra is profitable

But keep up with your mad hate, it's hilariously pathetic
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Why do they think this shit will sell?
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>>46847767
>tegra
>profitable

nvidia had to made this shit "console" to sell some tegras since no one uses that shit
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>>46847767
If it's so profitable, will you post all of those top selling devices post the Tegra 3?
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>>46847772
Nope, AMD can't code for shit and offloading to shaders is very inefficient for decoding and certainly can't handle 4K workloads with their weak GCN crap
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Mobile INelite is back
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>>46847744
you're a retard, Intel's integrated GPUs can accelerate HEVC decoding with a driver update, why would the PS4's much more advanced GPU not be able to do the same thing?
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>>46847804
the idea of android mixed with gaming is already laughable
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>>46847796
>Tegra is profitable
Except it isn't, thats an objective fact. Their mobile line has cost them more money than they have made in revenue from it.
The Tegra line is not profitable for Nvidia.
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>>46847699
The Virtual Boy sold more than the Shield console ever will.
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>ITT BUTTMAD AMDPOORFAGS THAT CAN'T EVEN SEE THEIR COMPANY HAS 100 MIL IN UNSOLD JUNK

http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2015/02/12/amd_stops_chip_shipments/

>Beleaguered chip underdog AMD is not shipping any new gear to channels this quarter as it bites the bullet to clear existing stock swilling around the industry, estimated to have been in excess of $100m.
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>>46847814
I'm pretty sure most people on /g/ today haven't been here long enough to remember INelite...
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>>46847821
Not only that but Tegra has been spanked by almost all of its competitors during it's entire existence. Apple's A8X crushed Nvidia's K1 and X1, Qualcomm has consistently performed as well or better while offering things Nvidia couldn't, like Integrated LTE and usable battery life

Nvidia should just give up and stick to desktop and laptop GPUs
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>>46844891
>http://shield.nvidia.com/games/grid

no but this http://shield.nvidia.com/games/android
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>>46844802
there's a bunch of AAA titles ported to android for it
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>>46847832
>can't handle the fact that Nvidia's Tegra line is unprofitable
>posts some irrelevant garbage about a company not even relevant to the discussion

Look at the desperation of this shill
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>>46847827

>Cow shit sold more than pig shit

Whoop de fucking do.

nVidia's push for Shield as a company paled to Nintendo's push for V-boy so its even more embarrassing for Nintendo.
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>>46847811
How come? I just tested a 4k 60fps video I made on mpc-hc and it played just fine.
DXVA playback was ON.
>>46847840
This make me sad.
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>>46847840
People seem to not know Onlive, you think they are going to know INelite?
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>>46847832
>People point out that division of a company and it's products are not profitable
>Has to mean that said people are fanboys of the main competitor
Right...
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>>46847846
>Crush

TOP KEK

Tegra X1 is much faster than Apple A8X junk

Keep up with your pathetic lies, AMDPOORFAG, it's really pathetic
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Reminder to report all the posts from the spammer.
Hes literally the only one on /g/ who does this, and he shits up every thread he posts in.
Report him and get him banned.
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>>46847879
rekd

TX1 masterrace
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>>46847846
The A8X beat the K1 in CPU because if the way it used a CPU that didn't even have OOE (yes, a chip from 2014 that doesn't even have out of order execution), but in GPU tests the K1 did beat the A8X, which uses the most powerful chip Imagination Technologies can supply at the moment.
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>>46847866
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1602316#post1602316

>AMD on the other hand is blacklisted in LAV, because some AMD driver versions accept 4K material, but then crash or even BSOD (and newer driver versions simply refuse it completely, so nothing lost).

Why do you lie so much, AMDPOORFAG?

AMD simply can't decode 4K until Tonga, their hardware simply can't do it
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>>46847868
INelite was a notorious Nvidia fanboy that went around constantly arguing with people about the most retarded things a few years ago before he became such a laughing stock he ether took off his trip or just left.
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>>46847907
K1 also draws 11w under load.
The A8X draws 2.5w.
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>>46847639
>tegra devs
>mr. hsun we can't seems to get the tdp down
>lets make it a console
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i would love a phone with the tx1 chip, i dont care about the power consumption and heat just throw in a fat and strong battery and im good to go
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>>46847879
>three synthetic graphics benchmarks
Yeah they won't show CPU benchmarks because the A8X wipes the floor with everything else on the market

Plus the A8X is actually in mobile devices and has been for 6 months. By the time a tablet actually exists using the X1 the A9X will be out. Also compare the power consumption of Tegra to the A8X, it's hilarious how inefficient Nvidia SoCs are compared to Apple and Qualcomm chips.
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>>46847931
Nvidia brings housefires to your mobile devices
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>>46847931
Wrong, A8X uses up to 8W, it's not 2.5W period
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idk someone should try and see if they can get SteamOS running on it. it'd be mighty neat
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>>46847972
Tegra is much more efficient than your junky Apple and Qualcomm SoCs
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What is the target market of this thing? Cheapskate dads?
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>>46847993
Yes, it helps keep my hands warm during the winter and I can use my Nexus 9 to iron clothes when a game is running.
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>>46845079
1 teraflop
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>>46847972
>CPU benchmarks

So pathetic you are, Tegra is faster period and you got busted for lying about performance but of course, your pride and lack of balls won't allow you admit you're wrong
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>>46847931
That's the peak consumption, and A8X does have a significantly higher draw. That 2.5W draw is probably the average draw of the regular A8 with one less core and a GPU half the size found in the iPhone 6.

The X1 may still have a higher power draw, but that's when it's running considerably faster than the A8X. Downclock it to equal performance and this is the result:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3PiPnYoshc
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>>46847983
NOPE 8w was the entire platform power for the iPad Air, not power draw for the SoC.
The Air2 gets equal or better battery life with a smaller battery because the SoC draws less power.

Nvidia shills sure are mad today
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>>46848005
Developing nations like India.
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Man, the shield tablet has been a success according to most reviews, so what do they think:
>Hey, the shield tablet was really well accepted, what can we do to improve?
>I have an Idea, let's ignore it and make Ouya 2.0: Onlive bugaloo
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>>46848027
4W is still more than 2.5W, stop lying faggot
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>>46847931
That's the peak consumption, and A8X does have a significantly higher draw. That 2.5W draw is probably the average draw of the regular A8 with one less core and a GPU half the size found in the iPhone 6.

The X1 may still have a higher power draw, but that's when it's running considerably faster than the A8X. Downclock it to equal performance and this is the result:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?
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>>46848025
No, sad little shill.
The A8X is a 2.5w chip. The A8 is a 2w chip.
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>>46848024
Tegra is not faster period, it's got less memory bandwidth and gets spanked by the A8 and A8X in CPU benchmarks. It's much slower per clock cycle and there's a reason NO ONE has adopted it outside of the Nexus 9 (which based on the reception was a massive fucking mistake)

Face it Nvidiashill, people don't want Tegra. Qualcomm makes more efficient and cost effective SoCs.

You can keep comparing unreleased products tested in a vacuum to products already on the market if it makes you feel good though.
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>>46848030
Kids in developing nations want something they can fill with games downloaded from tpb, not something that requires a credit card subscription to play remotely new games
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>>46847840
!EienteiYsU was his original tripcode right?

I remember seeing this happen:
https://warosu.org/g/thread/S11150716#p11151094
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>>46848060
>Kids
Who said anything about kids?
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>>46844710
So thats were the last 512mb from the 970 went.
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>>46848054
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3PiPnYoshc
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>>46848058
>Qualcomm

https://dolphin-emu.org/blog/2013/09/26/dolphin-emulator-and-opengl-drivers-hall-fameshame/

>glBlitFramebuffer to a hardware buffer rotates the output of the buffer by 90°. You just can’t invent these kind of things. How does that even happen?

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>>46848060
Not to mention playing streamed games with 3rd world internet services is bound to be a really fun experience for the whole family
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>>46847968
if Nvidia was smart they'd make the Shield Tab 2 a 10 incher
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>>46848055
>Citation needed
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>>46848045
That isn't a 4w power delta, its about a 3.5w delta. The SoC isn't the only chip in the system that draws more power underload.
That also isn't the iPad Air2 with A8X.

>In our first test, we see that the iPad Air 2 is about roughly equivalent to the original iPad Air for WiFi web browsing.
>This is actually a bit surprising as the battery in the iPad Air 2 is approximately 84% of the iPad Air.
>This would mean that we would expect the iPad Air 2 to get around 8.4 hours of battery life in this test, which represents a 16% gain to efficiency.

The A8X draws less power, its a 2.5w chip. Thats its rated TDP, and thats what it sticks to.
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Tegra is the best & fastest SoC in the world and developers love Nvidia GPUs because it just works for them

Tegra haters only harp on the past, eventhough it's proven to them how power efficient Tegra is when compared to A8X & Qualcomm garbage, they tried to shitpost and deny the bitter truth that they were wrong
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the intel compute stick is 150$ and has a Atom Z3735F running full x86 windows with 32GB of flash. If they priced the shield at 100$ it would be competitive but at 200 It just isn't worth it unless you actually need 4k playback.
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>>46848073
Ok then, adults in developing nations would rather buy a $2.99 chinese HDMI cable and plug a laptop to their tv
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>>46848091
>random unrelated issue with homebrew development

Yes good job Nvidiashill, you've found an issue with a Dreamcast emulator. You're right, I should buy a $200 Android game console because the last Nvidia Android game console, the Ouya, was so awesome.
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>>46848054
>>46848025
>shill bot posting the same thing twice
>didn't think anyone would notice

HA!
It looks like the Nvidia defense force is getting desperate
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>>46848111
>Meanwhile, other developers report basic glBlitFramebuffer calls crashing on Adreno.

https://developer.qualcomm.com/forum/qdevnet-forums/mobile-technologies/mobile-gaming-graphics-optimization-adreno/27023

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But then again, Qualcomm did buy AMD's shitty Imageon division, so this is what they get, no drivers and shitty employees from AMD
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Give it up, AMDPOORFAGS

Nvidia is winning in every area and you're losing period

Tegra X1 is the fastest SoC in the world and there's nothing you can do about it
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>>46848123
Whatever helps you sleep at night Nvidiashill

Qualcomm will still outsell Tegra SoCs more than 10:1 this year
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7qTHbOEiDY

>yfw there's faggots that buy Qualshit junk
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>>46848150
Yes, they're called "every phone and tablet manufacturer except for Apple"

The fact that Samsung, HTC, Sony, LG, and Nokia all use Qualcomm says enough. They want devices with reasonable power consumption and integrated LTE, Nvidia offers neither.
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>>46848063
>eientei
That's a Touhou place. Did he come from /jp/?
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>>46844732
Hell fucking MadCatz had one and you could technically make one out of any of the set top boxes on the market with 360 pad.
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>>46848204
Qualcomm has an exciting year ahead. They're pushing forward with Cortex A72 based chips and chips sporting their internally designed ARMv8 core dubbed Kryo.
MediaTek has an A72 based chip coming out fairly soon as well.
Everyone will be offering Cyclone levels of IPC pretty soon, sucks to be Nvidia right now. Their Denver core was a big steaming pile of shit.
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>>46844710
are the - and + buttons the same as paddle shifters on a racecar
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Simple, Logical questions:

How many devices Have Tegra SoCs in them currently?
How many with Qualcomm?
What device featuring a Tegra is the top seller?
Qualcomm?(inb4 Apple)

It's sad because the answers to all these questions are the reason Nvidia damage control is in such force ITT
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>>46848270
Its one guy doing all the shitposting, just one guy. He spams the same shit all the time.
Start fucking reporting his posts so he'll get banned instead of carrying on with his nonsense.
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>>46848205
yeah it seems like they did

https://warosu.org/jp/thread/S4449647#p4449676
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>>46848114
The site crashed and the post showed up twice

>>46848104
You do realize that the SoC is not the only part that draws power and low stress power consumption is probably the most retarded way to test maximum power draw. Modern chips ether turn off parts that aren't needed or set them into a low power state. That plus the fact that the SoC in the original iPad Air is a 28nm part while the SoC in the iPad Air 2 is a 20nm part is more than enough to hide an increase in power consumption during low stress.
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X1 is not even close to being the fastest SOC. The ps4 SOC is the fastest and it care out a year and a half ago.

Even carrizo will be magnitudes faster due to memory performance and power ceiling as well as CPU performance.
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>>46844710
They must have overproduced them since absolutely no one on the market is using Nvidia shitty chips, because they are complete and total garbage.

Call me when someone actually relevant releases a new product.
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>>46848398
>The site crashed
It hasn't crashed you shill, fuck off.
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>>46848074
Underrated post
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>>46848439
The PS4 was also design back in 2011, it went into mass production in 2012.
Draws 100w~ as a 28nm part. Not too shabby. If they threw in all their latest power saving tech it'd be even more impressive.
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>>46848439
I was thinking of building a small pc with an APU for space/money reasons is amd releasing something soon? Almost any new apu will fuck the ps4 right?
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>>46848583
They have a Kaveri refresh coming soon, nothing concrete on that yet though.
Their new Carrizo APUs will be in devices by mid year, but its a mobile only chip. Still 8 CU like Kaveri, but with newer GPU arch and delta color compression.
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>>46848583
AMD is releasing Carrizo but it's not a socketed chip so you likely wont see it in mainstream desktops. It's designed mainly for laptops but it's probably also going to be in small form factor computers as well.
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>pay for a subscription to our online game streaming service, goyim
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>>46848634
>>46848638
but on the cheap route with no gpu, amd is still the way to go? As long as its at least on par with the current consoles is okay for me
>>
DOA

Though I guess nvidia can afford this sort of extravagance
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>>46848680
Honestly I don't know if they ever were the way to go. APUs are convenient for small form factors but a discrete graphics card is still superior.

The xbone and PS4 have discrete class GPUs in them so an APU probably wont come close.
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>>46844710
>android shitty android console
Oh boy, how fun
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>controller uses retarded ps1 stick placement

literally the only thing i need to know to make me decide i will never buy this
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Finally a another platform to play Angry Birds and 5 Nights at Freddy's
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>>46846767
4k movies are hundreds of gigabytes
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>>46849018
this one can play angry birds in 4K though
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>>46848997
This. Fucking dropped immediately.
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>>46848916
another*

>>46848997
>retarded
>not god tier symmetrical
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>>46849448
>being ocd about aesthetics of a controller
>defending a console because you have it
>autism

pick one from the first and the second, and then pick the third as well
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>>46849506
but I don't even own a modern sony console
>>
>android
>game console

How many times does this idea have to explode before people stop pursuing it?
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>>46844710
the main question is...

CAN IT RUN WINDOWS AND PLAY GAMES ON IT?
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>>46849569
Ofc not, what a silly thing to ask.
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>>46849531
so you own a sony console and it's nostalgia you're blinded with? my original point
yes, im mad. beacuse people like you keep them making the controller the same. if i could use an xbone controller on a ps4 i would.
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>>46846719

> 970
> 4GB

pick only one
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>>46846691
>Performance
>Small Size
>Heat
Pick two.

R9 290x running on water here, barely gets to 60c

>>46847662
>>46847674
Well that's what you get when you have such a small bus size, but NoVidya has never been known as a company to deliver what they claim.
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>>46849643
xbox 360 and ps2 were my last consoles

sony controller felt more ergonomic
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>>46848010
underrated post
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>>46845814
Everyone expected the Wii to dominate. Dont you remember the amount of hype the Nintendo Revolution had?
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>>46848058
THIS.


Good god, people need to stop talking about anything processor related if they have no idea what a fucking clock cycle is, and a basic understanding of architecture.

>>46848074
huehuehue
>>
>THE WORLD'S FIRST ANDROID TV CONSOLE
Fucking nvidiots.
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>>46846205

I don't know why you even commented
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>>46844710
>>
You guys are fucking retarded. You keep going on about "NOGAEMS HURR DURR" and " ITS JUST LIKE ONLIVE DERP DE DOO" and "I CAN ALREADY WATCH NETFLIX FLAPPITY DAPPITY DUMP", but you're all missing the forest for the trees.

This is just about the first device powerful enough, and with the right software, to address a full range of entertainment needs in one device. Subscription services like Netflix, Hulu, Sling TV, and Google Play Music; emulators, particularly with the bundled controller (which is top notch -- I own one for my Shield Tablet); game-streaming (even if GRID sucks, you still have local streaming, which can be very useful); and sideloadable powerhouses like XBMC, all brought together for the first time into one compact, (relatively) affordable package.

This is a good thing. You shitlords are just too busy focusing on the things it doesn't do to notice what it does. It doesn't run Windows, so it can't play games by itself, but it has access to a wide range of Windows games. Streaming from GRID may not work, but local streaming still does. The device is a big step in the right direction.

tl;dr Y'all motherfuckers need critical thinking.
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>>46844710
can I emulate on this bitch? N64, Dreamcast?
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>>46847720
speaking about tegra exiting mobile, I read a comment from some nvidia fanboy on anandtech claiming that tegra wasn't a blunder, rather the opposite, and that nvidia was going to get billions by stepping up before competition on the driver assistant devices thanks to tegra, a market which, according to this analisys
http://ragingbull.com/forum/topic/1021687 should become worth billions in little time. I didn't know anything about this market and neither I do now, but is it legit? Is nvidia blazing everyone by putting tegra in more and more vehicles and making mad dosh?
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>>46850817
No. They are behind there too.
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>>46850768
Yes, it's android after all
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>>46850817
Nvidia has two clients for their car computers. Audi and Tesla. Audi is offering it as an option on just a couple models starting in 2016.

Qualcomm is also doing the self driving computer thing, except they have Mercedes, Cadillac, and Honda as confirmed clients. Honda wants to put the systems in every vehicle. Qualcomm stated they had more partnerships in the works.

Nvidia has already failed at the self driving game. This isn't a market where brand fanboyism matters, the automanufacturers are going to choose the best system available, and they're not choosing Nvidia. The Tegra line is a resounding failure in every market.
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>>46850768
Nuc probably emulates better than this.
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>>46850875
It was at CES.
Nvidia made the whole presentation about car computers and nothing else. Qualcomm mentioned it for about 10 seconds, then proceeded to move on like it didn't even matter. They're getting involved in the medical industry, and making microcontrollers for smart LED lights. It was kind of funny seeing Qualcomm take a dump on Nvidia then act like they're so insignificant that they're not even seen as competition.
Thats the difference between a $5 billion company and a $30 billion+ company I guess.
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>>46848073
>implying /g/ does anything more than circlejerk about how gaymez are for children and all the kool kidz watch chinese cartoons on their Thinkpads
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>>46850880

The NUC also costs twice as much as this, you morbidly obese mongoloid.
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>>46850983
And the nuc is actually useful
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>>46851027

>being this retarded

Useful for what? Emulating the two or three consoles the Shield can't handle?

The Shield already handles entertainment dramatically better and more intuitively than any Windows machine ever has. And as far as gaming goes, the NUC may be able to actually play Windows games, but why would you do that when you could just stream from a capable Windows PC that isn't so handicapped?
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>>46851069
Gtfo shill. $30 TV shit can do all that.
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>>46851131

Elaborate on this. What '$30 TV shit' are you talking about? You're not talking about the RPi, are you? Because those are incredibly underpowered and overrated.
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>>46844710

Well that thing sure looks sexy as fuck, but what is there worth playing on it? I have an amazon TV I got the controller for to fuck with and barely touched.

I had a nexus 7, 2013 7, and now a venue 7840 and though I play some rpgs and such here and there overall I have yet to see any games I really feel are worth much time or money. What the hell would make someone buy an android console just for gaming and not media or other tablet uses?

Seriously what games are worth it?
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>>46851149
This thing is underpowered as fuck compared to a console too.
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>>46846070
bait
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>>46851164

Most Windows games can be streamed from a Windows PC somewhere else in your house.

Also, I can confirm from my experience with the Shield Tablet that Shields make killer emulation boxes. You have access to most games from PSX on back, and that's a shitload of games.

>>46851169

And? Stop looking at its specs, and start looking at its functions. Yes, a PS3 may be more powerful. But can a PS3 play games in 1080p? Can a PS3 play the full range of Windows games when connected to a compatible PC? Does the PS3 support any and all TV-friendly Android apps? The answer to all of the above, just to save you some time, is 'No'. And that's why the Shield is good.
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Good...more fucking controller comparable big ass games for android/chrome. Now more of us can fuckin ditch Microsoft and crapple.

Good fuckin riddance!
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>>46847859
>there's a bunch of AAA titles ported to android for it
[citation needed]

Also, those would be better on a real PC obviously.
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>>46850947
>They're getting involved in the medical industry

who, nvidia?
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>>46851214

But I have my windows desktop plugged into my 55" tv via a 50ft hdmi and it does 1080p fine. I could use that to emulate, but I have one of the older model rasp pi's that runs up to psx fine.

And if you wanted to stream games from a desktop to another room there are cheaper options as well.
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>>46851243

If you have a Windows PC equipped with a modern Nvidia GPU, the Shield, for most intents and purposes, *is* a "real PC". I'm not sure why you're bothering to contrast the two, when they're really meant to complement each other.
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>>46851262
Qualcomm.
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