What the FUCK happened here? Is this fake? It can't

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what are you talking about?

>>46722113
What's wrong with it?

>>46722172
he's probably win 7 autist that's living in the past

>>46722146
>>46722172
Am I the only one that sees that the windows controls are entirely composed of black lines?

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>>46722184
Holy fucking shit, are you serious!? That's even worse than Win8!

Win 3.11 had more detail than that! Pic related.

>>46722191
They're dots

I like it

>>46722208
They're pixels

So Windows 10 is final now? Wow, MS is way ahead of schedule.

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>>46722191
>>46722206
seek help m8. it's minimalistic and perfect. only highlighted when you're about to press it. it's a fucking button, what, you want it to use unreal engine 4.7 for vista-like gay animations? fucking hell people

>>46722222

>>46722206
do you hate progress? do you want to end up in jail?

>>46722113
How are you not self aware enough to see your anger comes from your autism and not microsoft?? Are you also retarded?

>all these hipsters hating on aero
It looked NICE. Can you retards comprehend that? Going back a decade in design is NOT good.
Fucking morons.

>>46722345
omg i lek flowers and cat pics too !! add me on tumblr!

>>46722241
>only highlighted when you're about to press it

That's precisely what's wrong with it!!

A button that does not have an outline of it's boundaries is retarded! It's much more intuitive to know where to click if it is a square.

How can this obvious regress to 1980's GUI be allowed? Aero looked so gorgeous. I drooled so much at that shit. I can't comprehend how these 5 year-old drawings can be considered "it looks nice" in comparison.

>>46722241
They're the same kind of homos that like KDE or Cinnamon.

>>46722345
>it looks nice
>uses a lot of resources

I don't mind the simple design, what I don't like it's the placement, it looks awkward, like too close to the upper edge.

And hopefully you can just move your mouse to the upper right corner and click to close a window.

>>46722387
Welcome to 2015, where everything's flat and your opinions don't matter!

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>>46722394
So we've progressed bounds and leagues in processing power, and finally when we can power 3D based GUIs with awesome effects and transparencies, we suddenly go back 30 years to something my freaking 286 could do.
Worst! It's even more simplified than freaking Windows 3.11!

my name is /g/ and I can't adapt to new things

>>46722450
It's not new, that's the point (and it looks terrible).

>>46722113

I'm personally more irritated that the minimise button is no longer aligned with the bottom edge of all the other controls

>>46722450
My name is /g/ and I'll eat whatever shit shows up because it's new and trendy, no matter how much of a regression it is.

I can't fucking wait for this flat trend to go away. It's been around for too long already.

>>46722450
>my name is dumbass, and I don't realize that just because something is new doesn't make it better

>>46722444
>defending the fact that vista & 7 were using up to upwards 2gb of ram.

>>46722241
>it's a fucking button

it doesn't look like a button, nigga

>>46722450
a sheeple like you isn't representative of /g/

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It has no impact on your productivity and theres plenty of custom themes for windows out there to make it look like 7 if you can't handle your autism

>>46722444
the worst is, that even with that oversimplificated design, that shit is bloated in other ways and can't run on 286s.

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>>46722531
There is a minimal difference of RAM usage between 7 and 8, and it certainly isn't because of the transparency or fancy looks, because DWM draws in almost the same way. In fact, it's possible to keep Win7's look with transparencies and all, and the memory usage is the exact same. Pic related, it's Win8. So that's no excuse, what now bitch?

>>46722113
it's a fucking beta

>>46722531
My version of Windows 7 doesn't use more than 1GB. And even if it used 6GB I wouldn't notice the difference.
>2015
>not having at least 16GB of RAM

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>>46722241
>you want it to use unreal engine 4.7 for vista-like gay animations?
Maximum kek.

>>46722658
>not liking wobbly windows

If you like this design then you are everything that's wrong with /g/.

>>46722619
How? I want it.

>>46722778
glass8.eu

>>46722707
Eh. It's just window buttons. That said. I think 8 did a pretty well balance with them.

I'm just glad the age of the gradients and fake 3D is ending. That shit never looked good.

>>46722146
How did you get those? mirin' dat symmetry

>>46722778
glass8.eu

Though it's not perfect. You gotta do some extra things if you want the reflection effect for example, or the glow in explorer windows. But hit the forums, they have the solutions there.

>>46722241
>minimalistic
>perfect

Choose one.

>>46722658
What's his name again? Do you get the webm where a guy flash his dick in the show? No homo tho

>>46722868
>I need flashy gradients and raised edges
:^)

>>46722835
>age of the gradients and fake 3D is ending

It's not an age. It's miles better and more intuitive than all this flatness and no-sense borderless buttons.
If anything, flat is a trend and I hope it dies soon. It looks horrible in comparison.

>there are people who still use the default windows 8.1 window border sizes

How do you even stomach that? Glad they got rid of them in 10 at least.

>>46722876
>I need a superclean environment so that I don't have a sensory overload on my sensible brain

>>46722835
Gradients only looked terrible because of the 8-bit scam

>>46722881
>still use the default windows 8.1 window border sizes
I couldn't stomach them. See >>46722619
Looks much more comfy.

>>46722878
What is so good about 3D and gradients? Apart from making everything look messy and cluttered.

>>46722881
Do you think if we push them to completely remove the border in Windows 10 they'll do it?

>>46722914
Things have some life, design, eye-candy and personality in them.
Flat is like looking at a blank paper. All that nothing is so gorgeous!

>>46722914
>What is so good about 3D and gradients?
Because reality is 3D. How autistic do you have to be to not understand this?

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>>46722911
Never was much of a fan of the glass aero stuff. Though maybe that's just me.

You should try making those borders smaller though. No reason for them to be so huge.

Only problem I have is that I can't find a decent color to use for the border.

>>46722984
>Never was much of a fan of the glass aero stuff.
I had my jaw on the floor the first time I installed Vista and all those 3D animations and gorgeous blurred transparencies kicked in.
But hey, you could always disable it if you didn't like it.

Now no one can choose!

>>46722944
To be honest I'd rather have a program that is ugly but easier on the eyes.

>>46722958
Maybe I'm just weird. But my eyes are capable of seeing color differences without them having a huge border that looks like it's poking out a bit but not really.

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>>46722984
I made mine smaller too. Wish I could completely get rid of them.

>>46723040
>Now no one can choose!
That is true and that is the worst thing of all. Hell, I would probably use the classical skin if I could. It's just so simple and comfortable.

>>46723048
>easier on the eyes
To me, it's harder on the eyes, because I intuitively search for the delimitation of a button and they aren't there!

>>46723048
>Maybe I'm just weird. But my eyes are capable of seeing color differences without them having a huge border that looks like it's poking out a bit but not really.
I'm sure you'd like it if your light switch were just a one pixel floating x in the air and you'd have to guess it's dimensions.

>>46723049
Hey. That actually doesn't look all that bad.

Isn't the aerofied a bit bugged and can fuck up your system though? At least that's what I read.

>>46723083
Guess we just work differently.

>>46723084
I have nothing against always visible boxes around certain buttons though. I think that's a pretty useful thing and I wish more stuff had it.

Though really, I've never had any problems with no boxes either.

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>>46723084
>I'm sure you'd like it if your light switch were just a one pixel floating x in the air and you'd have to guess it's dimensions.

hahah perfect analogy! This so much

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>>46722113
I know, it's utterly moronic, isn't it?\

Not only have they gotten rid of gradients, highlighting (differences in contrast or color), and visual leads. Now they made the grouping and colors on the top bar worthless as well.

It all exists to offload what processing is done by what parts of the brain, and how easily that information can be stored and manipulated in working memory. Now, not only are you left with some blank monochromatic bar that your eyes have to trace to find the edge of every damn time, the buttons on the side aren't even colored. Yes, you can't even just look for "red", you have keep everything in the most logic and frontal parts of your brain that consciously process symbols and look for an "X" next to a bunch of other symbols. It is moronic and inefficient, it's like they're trying to remove every single bit of usability UX they've ever done.

The icing on the cake? It turns red WHEN YOU HOVER OVER IT. That's right, it turns useful visually the second you don't need it anymore and have already done all the work finding it. What. The. Fuck.

>>46722206
That's fucking beautiful... when I get my laptop running I will get that theme. Fucking thieving relatives makes me not want to.

>>46723096
>Isn't the aerofied a bit bugged
glass8.eu works pretty fine here. Never gave me a problem. According to the developer it's almost completely native.

>>46723163
>That's right, it turns useful visually the second you don't need it anymore and have already done all the work finding it. What. The. Fuck.

Fucking this. Is there anything we can do about this? It's totally retarded and I can't believe this is happening. And I thought Win8's design was bad.

>>46722146
It's only like this on Windows Store apps. Standard Windows apps will have it like >>46722113

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>>46723096
I use aero glass. Been using it for about 4 months with no problems.

In the year 2050, all GUIs will just be an unintelligible series of black and white squiggles

Personally I don't mind flat design when done good. But it's rarely done good.
>For fucks sake, designers, when making a button, make sure it's actually a button, not just floating text that's not different in any way from the normal text. If you really hate borders with a passion, at least make all buttons different color. I need to know at first glance which parts of the interface are clickable and in which area around the button text the click will be registered.

>>46723209
You might want to take care of that window title text though. It's a bit hard to see black on black.
See my example:
>>46722619

>>46723219
"It's minimalistic."

"My mobile display takes less power to use it because our energy storage tech still hasn't improved after the point when we found a way to deliberately gimp carbon nanofiber."

"My display's LUT is only 2 bits now, so much more efficient. 2 bits per "channel"? No, per pixel, silly. What are you, from 2010? Lel."

I almost feel like tech is either go to (meaningfully) move almost nowhere, or go backwards. It certainly already is going backwards from my perspective.

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>>46723163
fuck off you worthless uncultured peasant. you dont HAVE a bachelors in fine arts like me so you dont GET to have an opinion about what you like

can you fucking laymen please stop pretending you know ANYTHING about design and leave it to us professionals?

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>>46723209
How did you get to to look nice. Just installed it but it looks pretty awful. Can't seem to find the "HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\DWM" for some reason.

That and the black text is almost invisible.

Also getting some really weird "Aero Glass for Win8.1" text on my desktop.

>>46722113
The buttons are not EVEN with each other, sure is messing with my autmism.

>>46722430
Kinda sounds like the dark ages.

>>46723277
You have to donate to remove the text. Horrible, I know.

For black text, you have to enable text glow. Check the site or their forums for the solution.

>>46723339
Ah. Shame. Can't really deal with that.

Might give it a proper run at a later date though.

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>>46723250
Is there a registry key to enable the glow on the text? I can't seem to find it.

>>46723277
>How did you get to to look nice.
When you were installing you should have unchecked that option (see pic). That will make it use the native windows 8.1 theme. You can also use your own custom atlas file.

>Also getting some really weird "Aero Glass for Win8.1" text on my desktop.
You have to donate to remove it but I got the registry key to do it from some site. Let me see if I can find it for you.

>>46723357
>you should have unchecked that option (see pic)
You can simply go and remove that atlas I think.
http://glass8.eu/guide.html Here's how.

>Is there a registry key to enable the glow on the text?
Yes, again, here:
http://glass8.eu/guide.html

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>>46723275
I could not help but notice your png was not optimized anon.
I have optimized your png.
Your png is now optimized.

>>46723351
Here is the forum where the guy shared the key,
www nsaneforums com/topic/217974-aero-glass-v125-for-windows-81-and-v13-for-windows-8/

Just hit Ctrl + F and search for "PainteR"

>>46723419
Thanks I will check it out.

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>>46723420
S-So m-much detail in 1KB. Thanks anon!!

I was afraid that would be too much bloat. I think I can shave a few bytes if I remove the figure's borders! And it will please the flat-fags even more!

>>46723420
i saved it in paint losslessly unlike whatever dumb bullshit you just used to strip away all 18kb of artistic integrity

>>46723209
Jesus Christ what's with all that office shit integrated in file explorer?

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>>46723509
It only expands when you click on it. It's actually damn nifty and useful. Pic related.

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>>46723419
Ok so I created the registry for 'TextGlowMode' but I still get nothing.

Is this how yours is? (pic)
You can check these places for it:
HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\DWM (global)
HKCU\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\DWM (per-user)

>>46723589
You need to be using an atlas with a glow. He has some on the site.
And even then you'll have a problem with the explorer windows missing the glow, but I'll help you when you get there if it bothers you much. First get the glow working in general.

>>46723736
Ok I managed to get hold of an atlas with a glow. However pointing 'CustomThemeAtlas' to the .png and restarting dwm.exe is not changing it.

>>46723995
dunno if just restarting dwm is enough. Give it a reboot.

>>46723995
Anyway, to enable glow on explorer windows needs a bit more of work.
Use this as a guideline:
http://www.chris123nt.com/2014/04/10/how-to-get-aero-glass-back-in-windows-8-1/

One of the 4 edits listed is not needed and will make the breadcrumbs on explorer look too much spacious, but I don't remember which. Try it yourself. I gotta leave now.

>>46722472
Same here..

I like it

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>>46722911
Master race here.

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>>46724807
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

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>>46724807
Mother of god! YES! Like that!

Let's be serious here for a moment. What exactly is so rigidly barring Microsoft from doing anything remotely right?

Internal hierarchy issues (typical of middle management)? Some interest we're not aware of? Being just too broken and detached from reality?

I mean certainly nobody with half a brain can sign off on this. I see a case of some higher ups dictating what they want and the actual people implementing it being shoveled into making moronic choices to comply with those guidelines. Nothing about this makes any sense.

Like was mentioned above, the X only turns red after you hover over it. It's as though with every step in that icons slow change to red, there's some beaten down programmer, somewhere in the company, saying "we tried. plz don't hate me".

>>46722113
So, is the Windowws Classic theme available out of the box in Win 8.1?

>>46725118
That's the tendency. Windows, Mac and Android are following this. It's curious.

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>>46722531
>2015
>still crying about a couple of gig of ram

For fuck sake upgrade your ddr2

>>46722113

This is Linux tier aesthetics.

>>46722387
Holy shit. Just holy shit.

Seriously. I don't know what to say here.

Someone help, please?

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>>46722450
So sad, so true.

>>46722387
The funny part about this is they're going after tablets where highlighting the buttons without triggering them isn't even possible, only cursor users will be able to see them.

>>46722113
This is what happens if you don't program your own OS from scratch.

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I quite like mac gui tbh

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linux master race reporting in

>>46726487
I like how the green dot is the same for maximize and the online indicator.

>>46726516
>kde

>>46726525

that's a prerelease version, there's no green dot on the final version

>>46722206
not Microsoft 95 mustard race

anon pls

>>46726516
You are not a master race for being sheeple.

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>>46726530
>mint 14 xfce

>>46726576
Holy crap you can actually edit how the window/buttons look in linux?

>>46726487
this is not real
>>46726530
judging by the complete absence of Plasma and the jagged rounded corners on the window decorations, that is MATE, not KDE.

>>46726588
See
>>46726576

>>46722113

Well when you consider the other icons MS has been making...

>>46726607
Oh right, the quick launcher icons aren't the full thickness of the toolbar, so it is XFCE, not MATE.

>>46723275
>can you fucking laymen please stop pretending you know ANYTHING about design and leave it to us professionals?

Sure, but only after you sissy faggots thank us all, the hackers and programmers who develop the software you take for granted, like Photoshop, Illustrator, Blender... or even fucking Mac OS X which uses A LOT of free and open source software.

Software created by many of our community members because we all believe in MUH FREEDUMS. Which, of course, you could never understand because you're too busy sitting on your dildos while sucking Tim Cook's dick all day long...

you know /g/ you aren't all autist
Just a handful of you

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>>46726516
nigga gtfo this is the real master race

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>they want to remove all the wrinkles

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>>46726755
don't make me get nostalgic

>>46726706
Welcome to the realizations of a 16 year old.

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>>46723339
>donating to get rid of advertisement
how the fuck is that a donation? it's more like paying for a pro version to remove adds

>>46722345
If you were to go back a decade in design you'd get aero, shits old yo.

Skeuomorphism looks ridiculous and your oldfaggotry will not stand.

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>>46726927
Aero is the most intuitive and natural way to allow the brain to automatically impose depth and spatial concepts on an OS environment that has come about so far.

What you're suggesting is that it's a positive step forward to eliminate the ability to subconsciously and intuitively know what window is where relative to each other (or the desktop, which is inherent base layer). It isn't, it's simply removing a feature and forcing the user to replace it with inefficient ways of processing stimuli and planning how to interact and complete any given task.

Pic related. Which object is which, and where are they relative to one another and yourself? You barely need to think, you already know. Now close that picture, close your eyes, and try to visualize and answer again, to yourself. You still, already roughly know. The brain stores and processes depth information that efficiently. Opaque "flat" objects are one such construct that is not stored or processed efficiently, is not able to be manipulated mentally, is not descript, and does no let you interpolate what is likely behind it. As macro objects, they tell little beyond what they themselves are, which ain't much.

Honestly, I find it a bit ridiculous we even have to have this conversation. It's like the reality, and the mind you experience is drastically different than my own or any other neurological model ever created around observations about human functioning. Notions of working memory and cognitive load? Nah man, that ain't you. Depth perception? Nope. Spatial reality relative to planning tasks? Nope again, it's like you intrinsically know everything. Well, good luck to you then, have fun with Win 10!

>>46722345
>Going back a decade in design is NOT good.

>>46727091
>Aero is the pinnacle of greatness created by Muhammed himself.

Those sentiments are not compatible. Your viewpoints are diametrically opposed. Your advanced age is showing. Seek help dad, we're worried.

>>46727442
You believe I am a poster that I am not.

dark mode when, ffs Microsoft.

Atleast uxstyle seems to be updated for the windows 10 technical preview (which means it will be updated to the official 10).

>>46722872
It's George Takei.

when is win10 actually coming out?

>>46723040
>Now no one can choose!
This so much. Have Windows 7 and don't like Aero? Aero eating too much resources? TURN IT THE FUCK OFF AND STOP COMPLAINING. It's not even enabled by default on a fresh Windows 7 install.

Aero was the best thing to happen to Windows since Windows 2000 (seriously, that win+tab) and they remove it in the next iteration in favor of some flat, square bullshit. They could've kept Aero as an option, but noooo, can't have that. You can't even switch to classic Windows theme anymore. I honestly don't know a single person outside of /g/ that didn't like Aero. Like, really.

>inb4 that's cuz you have no friends

>>46723163
Does the abstraction of button space and non button space really require that much brainpower for you guys? I'm legitimately curios from a UI design perspective. Are textures, delimitations, and gradients important to keeping a productive workspace? What is the right balance between a minimalistic UI and a textured UI?

>>46722113
What I hate about the new Windows UI is they are all about SHARP EDGES.
Sharp edge X button, Sharp edge window, Sharp edge highlight.etc

It is functional, yes, but it's been functional since windows me, like, why upgrade Windows when the functions are literally the same?

More beautiful UI is all I dream of Windows....One day....A man can only hope

>>46727563
June.

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>>46726710
Bro, are you running Putty in Wine?

>>46722241
>you want it to use unreal engine 4.7 for vista-like gay animations?

Hell yes! Getting the GPU fans to 90% at all times, 40% load on all cores at idle, everything is above 50c sitting on the desktop.

>>46722241
> implying you can't have a nice appearance without animations

>>46727821
They've been on round's dick since Vista. Think of it as a return to form more than anything.

>>46723209
icon theme?

>>46726516
>linux masturbace

>>46726852
Yeah, I know. Nobody likes it but the developer is kind of a cock.

>>46727091
Fucking this. Couldn't explain it better myself.

>>46727574
>I honestly don't know a single person outside of /g/ that didn't like Aero.

This, same. And naturally so. I can't understand what's wrong with Aero.

>>46722778
https://thepiratebay.se/torrent/10653294/Aero_Glass_for_Windows_8.1

>>46727091
This is a point, but my main gripe is...:

Transparency is the best color. There's only one reason not to use it, and that's resources. The blur is there so you still can distinguish things. Sharp edges, minimalistic UI and so on is fine. But why have a flat color? Unless you have a flat color background it looks pretty stupid, oversimplified, doesn't fit in. Guess what? transparent fits in everywhere and anywhere. It fits perfectly whatever wallpaper you choose, and even what part of the wallpaper the window is over.

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i have strange feel they do it on purpose to let Apple live and profit on their eye candy consumer toys
They need eachothers patents, Apple needs Microshit because they are shit in anything else and Microshit needs Crapple in game because of muh-monopoly

it's fucking corporate conspiracy

>>46722901
Windows 10 is for phones, pcs, laptops and touch devices so while areo might sound like a good idea on desktop it is definitely shit on other devices, that's why we have minimalism. That looks convenient on all devices.

>>46730089
see this about resource usage
>>46722619

>>46730190
well windows 10 is going to have transperncy

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>>46722113
>>46730192

>>46730211
1. right click on the things you don't want
2. click unpin from star
3.???????
4. profit

>>46723209
>aero glass
Do you mean glass8.eu ?
Is there any way of doing this that isn't super fucking complicated? Why are they refusing to make a simple installer?

>muh transparency
Kill yourselves.

>>46730247
...but there is a simple installer?

>>46730247
You just need to install it without an atlas to achieve that result.

>>46730234
>2. click unpin from star
Yes, it's been like that since Windows XP.

>>46730263
>>46730267
I'm running 8.0.
>On Windows 8, there is no official way to install this software. It depends completely on you how you install the library into your system. You just must ensure that it will inject into dwm.exe and explorer.exe processes

>>46730289
why don't you fucking update?

>>46722387

If the boundary is directly in the center between two symbols, you should be able to determine an appropriate place to click in an instant if you aren't retarded.

>>46722241
He was talking about detail to the GUI, not animations you retard.

>>46730260
Respond to some of the arguments that have been made about its uses, then.

Otherwise you're shitposting some substanceless clutter, and should leave /g/ forever. Kill yourself in addition, if you want. I won't be part of that though.

>>46730356
>If the boundary is directly in the center

Not sure if you're trolling or just retarded

>>46730289
>I'm running 8.0.

Well... you know what to do to fix your problem then. What else do you need?

Here's a question for anyone running the W10 technical preview.

How FAST is the OS? Does it go almost straight to desktop on boot, like OSX?

>>46730411
Fuck no, it's only barely faster than 7

>>46730480

oh but why though

They really need to catch up if they're going to pry me away from W7 64

>>46730411
depends entirely on how shitty your pc is

>>46730480
>it's only barely faster than 7
it is much faster, stop talking shit.

>>46730289
>I'm a complete retard and too lazy to update.
Fixed that for you.

>>46730411
>Does it go almost straight to desktop on boot, like OSX?
Yeah, like osx.
Oh my gawd.

>>46730557

Well, I don't use OSX on my computers but you've got to admit the boot time on those things is very good compared to Windows.

>>46730289
And there is an installer for 8.0

>>46730605
>boot time on those things is very good compared to Windows.

I bet it uses some kind of hybrid suspension shenanigan, like Win8 tries to use. I disabled that shit as it gave me problems and only shaved about 3 or 4 seconds of boot time. When you have an SSD you stop caring about those things.

>>46730702

That is a good point, I really need to jump on that bandwagon

>minimize and maximise are crisp 1x pixel lines
>exit cross has anti-aliased edges

Kek, looks awful / amateur shit.

Winblows fags eating shit like usual

>>46730605
>>very good compared to Windows.
What the fuck are you talking about? My windows 8.1 boots in 3 seconds on powersaver, 6 seconds on normal shutdown.

How about you throw your shitty 90s pc into the bin and get up to date hardware before you talk bullshit?

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>>46730976

>90s pc

CPU: i5 4670
GFX: nVidia GTX 760
HSF: 212 Evo Heatsink
RAM: ADATA XPG V1.0 16GB (2 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model AX3U1600W8G9-DB
Case: BitFenis Shinobi "Core"
PSU: SuperFlower Golden Green HX 650W "80 Plus Gold" Power Supply - Black

Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit

Your move

>>46731040
>tfw shitty specs
>tfw boot >1 minute when using win7
>tfw boot ~10 sec when using win8.1

>>46731119

Welp, haven't played a game on less than max settings yet so I'm doing alright with these "shitty specs". I am never going to use W8, I like being able to use my computers.

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>>46731144
>I can't into modernization

>>46731119
>tfw boot 1 second when using GNU + systemD +Linux

>>46731144
>760
>max settings
i can't understand people boosting their ego on anonymous boards by lying

the only chance is you really have 1200x1024 screen

>>46722113
> Control + F
> Botnet
> No Results

You sir, installed a botnet

>>46731169

Admittedly, my monitor is 22"/1680x1050, so it's not HD, although I do have a second monitor as well.

I genuinely can't think of any games I've been playing on low specs, I'm pretty sure I've been playing ARMA3 on max, I'd have to check. Either way it looks great and fps is no issue.

>>46731161

Don't see how using a mainstream OS makes me a fedora-tipping Arch-using autist.

>>46731197
Technically it's higher than "HD" but lower than "Full HD"

>>46731040
>Case: BitFenis Shinobi "Core"
You might want to buy a more modern case. That one is bottlenecking the whole system and is full of security holes.

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>>46731287

ITT Macfags clinging to straws because they're scared of WIndows 10

>>46731040
Are SuperFlower PSUs any good?

>>46722113
jesus you guys a faggots. goto /gd/ if you want to complain about this shit.

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Minimalism is the best artstyle for any given UI, is able to use the least possible resources and makes your workspace clutter free. This is inherent to minimalism, whose focus is to remove the superfluous and accentuate the details—the important.

I've been stuck with Windows 7 and his stupid kiddy flashy wobbly wubbly shit lmao juzt liek reel glass and its down syndrome flashy depthlike icons for a lot of years and I've been very jealouse of the cleanness of Windows 8. I'm looking forward to get W10 as soon as possible so I can enjoy an aesthetic working enviroment.

>hurr le ebin trend

I liked minimalism since W7 wasn't even a thing, fuck off.

>mfw people advocate for going back to retarded flashy kiddie shit

>>46731560

I've had a good experience so far, no problems. I believe other brands often take SuperFlower PSU's and rebrand them.

>>46731630
>mfw people advocate for going back to retarded flashy kiddie shit
No, anon, minimalism is the kiddy shit.
Look at all these bright and flashy colors. It's like I'm working on a fucking Fisher Price theme.

Everything looks like a toy on computers now.

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>>46731675
>No, anon, minimalism is the kiddy shit.

>>46723163
Linux users have had this stuff for ages. It may look cool but it isn't very user friendly.

>>46722241
Minimalistic just means lazy

>>46723163
>X is a symbol
>red is not

You know, for talking about how the brain works, I'm not at all convinced that you actually do know how it works.

For the record, I don't look for red or an X when I want to close my windows. I look to the top right of the window and then click the rightmost button. It could have a thumbnail of Mickey Rourke stuffing a pineapple up his ass and I'd still know which button to press.

What the buttons look like is largely irrelevant to the user experience. You're just trying to take something that you, subjectively, don't like and make it something that you can objectively criticize, and that's fucking retarded.

>>46730211
The start menu would look awesome without those cubes

>>46731844
>What the buttons look like
It's not about what the buttons look like, even if they're hideous this way. It's about the delimitation of the button! Where is the button? Where does it start? Where does it end? It's all a guess until you look for it. Delimitations are more intuitive.

>>46731869
Right-click-> Unpin

>>46731877
If you can't derive by deduction the boundaries of a given window button, given that you have seen how it was on previous iterations for the past years, your IQ is under 70. Too bad for you.

>>46731901
epic

>>46731877
The button still gives visual feedback when you mouse over it, which is enough, because you don't really know where your cursor is going until it's gotten there.

But if we're to subscribe to your way of thinking, we ought to have every street marked along the sides for parking. I mean, if you come along an empty street and want to park along it, where do you park? Where are the spots? Do you park near the bench? Do you park on the left or the right? How do you know?!@?

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vista tho

>>46722113
Flatfags happened.
Whole flat UI trend in past years is making me sick

>>46731920
Yeah you know, average IQ'd humans can see patterns and probabilities, and the probabilities that yet another iteration of the same fucking desktop metaphor has the same button boundaries is very high. Go ahead and call me fedora, I'll still be right.

Back when gradients were the shit, you insisted on the superiority of flatness.

Fucking hypocrites.


Fuck you, you hypocrites

I'm still mad about win98 theme removed

ITT:

>hurr I'm a retard that doesn't hit the symbol exactly in the middle
>look at me, I'm a fucking retard and you can't stop me

Faggots like you are why we got the Vistaids interface with huge buttons.

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>>46731931
>when you mouse over it
When you don't need the feedback any more. See >>46723163


>>46731901
>derive by deduction the boundaries of a given window button
Yes, that's exactly what I want to be doing when using my GUI, deriving where shit starts and ends by deduction! Not by visual cues, no.

>>46722241
No, it's retarded, because now the point of orientation for the exit thing is gone.

With the red x you could find it half-concious.

>>46732026

Welcome to 4chan, contrarian central

>>46732053
They're even bigger now you fucking retard! Are you blind? They were actually smaller in Vista...

>>46732066
I didn't say I liked the interface either.

All Vista-onwards interfaces have been atrocious.

>>46726586
are you high

Just stick with Windows 7. By the time Windows 7 loses support, Windows 11 will come out. Hopefully by that time the curry nigger will have been fired and replaced with a competent human due to low sales of Windows 10.

>>46728500
bump
>>46723209
what is that icon pack holy shit it's beautiful

>minimalistic is lazy
>i cant find the x

Minimalistic can also be very simple (and still efficient and user friendly which doesn't always apply, for example by not splitting the x from the maxjmize button)

>not closing windows with alt+f4
>do you even /g/

>>46732396
>alt+f4

ctrl+w works both on the internet, and for explorer windows

>>46722914
see >>46727091

>using any Windows after 7
>not switching to Linux

>>46732480
>alt+f4
>ctrl+w

CTRL+F4 closes tabs in almost any application by the way.

>>46732520
Closes all windows in Chrome.

>>46722191
You racist piece of garbage, get out!

>>46723204

[citation needed]

It's a preview, they're not going to leave them off-centered like that for regular programs in the RTM.

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>>46722223
They're picture elements.

>>46726487
gTFo. All they did was take the shine of their already shit-tier traffic lights, that have always been in the wrong place anyway. Cant maximize a screen better than win 3.0 did to being with. Go drink bleach and Coors Light.

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>>46730490
Good thing you added that 64 to the end of your post, Autist. You drive a Mustang, by chance?

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>>46731040
>BitFenis
Kek/10

>>46722387
That's because you're a ricer faggot and literally have the taste of a 12-year-old boy.

>>46722430
>uses a closed-source operating system
>gets mad that his shitty "opinions don't matter"
>still defends Windows and proprietary software with his life
kek

>>46732698
>literally have the taste of a 12-year-old boy

Literally? Are you 12?

>>46731844
I'm the anon you quoted.

No, red is not a symbol nor a symbolic reference, which aren't apt to be processed through the same channels as basic color recognition (with an associative context based notion of affordance). This is what is meant by "efficiency", avoiding neurological bottlenecks and providing as much clarity with as little visual clutter as you can. It's so that under any degree of mental load, in any task, in any mood, there are multiple different ways the brain can process in parallel.

>For the record, I don't look for red or an X when I want to close my windows. I look to the top right of the window and then click the rightmost button.
We do roughly the same thing. Now let's talk about how we do it, specifically, in a flat and minimalistic environment like Windows 10. Do you look for the window's rightmost border, then trace it up to the top where the X will be? Does it depend on where your eyes are at the time? Do you look at the windows title and just skim over until you see symbols or what looks like an "edge" to act as a signal? What if you have a lot of shit up everywhere? Do you take the brute force approach and just skim the entire top border? How much and where does your process depend on what you're doing at the time?

Or... do you just flick up to and over at the top bar where you roughly know the edge is and at the same time, over completely different white matter tracts, using completely different brain regions that are already processing visual stimuli before your conscious mind even knows where your eyes have flicked to, click on the red X, or the rightmost of the clear buttons? See there, you have 3+ ways to do the same task, in the same instant, using entirely different brain regions. That is efficiency. In Win 10, that efficiency does not exist.
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>>46733377
>What the buttons look like is largely irrelevant to the user experience. You're just trying to take something that you, subjectively, don't like and make it something that you can objectively criticize, and that's fucking retarded.
>What buttons look like is irrelevant to the user experience
>You're criticizing something you subjectively don't like
Make up your mind. Are the relevant, or not?

Of course they are. The issue here is that it can be made objective and quantifiable if you actually think about and model what's happening. Then test those things, think about them some more. Etc. There is a right way to do something for the majority of the population, and wrong way. Some things might be intrinsically wrong for everyone, but who knows.

It's the same reason you don't see purely symbolic UI, relies on working memory and pre-existing knowledge. Nor do you see purely linguistic ones, it's clutter prone, and the brain tends to try to process linguistic stimuli in a serial way, with multiple sources, it tends to rapidly between the two while losing much of both. So, how do you mentally solve this problem? You can load in memory what you know about the UI, a general idea of their spatial relationships, and then parse the beginning of each piece and skip it when you see it isn't what you want. Maybe apply some kind of iteration, depends. With a shitty flat minimalistic UI, this all gets harder. The same general process goes for pure symbols. Trial and error, load mental map of known functions using available spatial ideas, etc etc etc. When in reality you could just skip the bullshit and put a fucking symbolic reference to known affordances, and couple it with a linguistic aid. Group them in sections. Maybe add a color, depends. Humans have a spectrum of capabilities, this is true, but it can and ought to be resolved to an objective and quantifiable basis. Then these ideas can be used to expand intelligently
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>>46733398
With Windows 10, Microsoft has thrown away 20+ years of UX, iteratively refining and implementing ideas, things that actually worked. And replaced it with almost nothing, they've added very little of real value. Anything decent is diluted amidst all the missteps they're rigidly sticking to.

It's unfortunate.

>>46722113
The web happened. MS has Web Site Envy. Their OS and software has to look like a website, which is the New Hotness, not like the boring software they've been producing for 30 years.

>>46733448
I posted that ~19 hours ago. I'd already been awake for a while then. I'm still awake, and have to leave again.

There's a lot to be said about this whole topic, and a lot of ways to say it. If this thread still exists when I return, I'll try to respond. Otherwise, wherever it goes it up to whatever and or whoever.

>>46731630
>cleanness of Windows 8
>it uses the same icons Windows 7, everything else is retarded and metro is unusable on dektop
>also no apps
>the appstore is joke

>>46733936
I-I'm s-sorry anon, I never thought my thread would drag out for days.

>>46730327
>>46730551
>>46730410
Yeah, I realize it could be "fixed" by "upgrading". But this is what happened when I tried 8.1:
>install 8.1 breaks install completely, forcing me to re-install.
>Install 8.1 directly, Don't want a single one of the added features, and hate the start button and new search
>Install 8.0 again, all is well.

>>46730661
Nope. The .exe just extracts som dll files.

>>46734469
are you a spambot?

>>46726516
ok, kid

I like both the new Metro/Modern UI style and the old Aero style. Hell, I even like Yosemite and Mavericks' style. The most important thing for me is that the theme is consistent throughout the entire OS and applications.

I don't get it OP. What's wrong? Non windows user here.

>>46722571
fucking this

>>46734874
>I don't get it OP. What's wrong?
Have you looked at the freaking picture at least?

>>46722113
>Windows DE doesnt look exactly like out of a Hollywood 1337 hacker film
>It must be shit

>>46735186
Oh sorry
Pictures are non-free so my local free software guru forbids me to view pictures

>>46724807
Underated-post/10

>>46722387
go to bed grandpa

>>46731938
What theme? It looks great!

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>>46732186
bumping for icon pack >>46723209

>>46722113
Better than the squashed button from Vista/7

>>46736032
Shut up kid. Adults are talking.

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>>46722872
It's Woody Harrelson's wife.

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t-t-tthanksss Microsoft for STILL going for 2 configuration menus. Thanks for removing the update sub-menu from the old one and adding a simplified one on the right, that's what i really needed

:----)

>>46737039
I don't understand. What happened there? What's on the left and on the right?