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I have thinkpad X220 with TN screen. Is it worth it to replace it with IPS?
My x220's battery is dying. Should
I buy this one? I have not had good experiences with aftermarket batteries in the past.
alright about to buy a 90W dock for my T420, is asked and the seller said they could sell the dock cheaper if it didn't include the power brick (original listing did).
will the charger from my T420 (gen lenovo) be able to power the dock?
> W xor X
> Amazing community
If you're going to use BSD, and you choose freebsd, you might as well just use linux because it does everything better.
The only reason to use BSD these days is that the kernel is profoundly better than linux, and openBSD is the only one that actually takes that seriously... Yes... you'll get shit battery life. But who cares?
X220 owner here
I've had it since launch and it's still going strong. A few things though:
The power jack is going bad, and when I went to replace it, there seems to be nothing really holding it in place. It just kinda rattles around in the back. Is there any trick to these? There's a bracket but it doesn't really hold it in place.
The top strip of the LCD cover is starting to separate. Has anyone looked at how it's attatched? Would rather not buy a new one.
I'm debating on whether to install:
A new Wifi Card
New HDD + MSATA SSD
Or just don't bother spending the money and buy an X250 at the first good sale. Ideas?
I've got a T420 and the coating on the touchpad is coming off. It's still useable, but it's a weird kind of feeling going from the center where the coating is gone to the edges where the coating's still there.
not him, but
> Amazing community
openbsd has literally the most toxic community among bsd's, led by a single bigot who knows jack shit about code engineering, and masturbates to his patched apache1.
This is true.
Just remove the sticker. You could replace it with your own novelty sticker as well.
And you can get replacements if you actually like the bumpy texture...
I'm trying to peel it off but I can't really get a grip under it, so I'm just kinda tearing it off by putting tape on top and peeling it off.
At least it got me more used to using the clit mouse.
>Not using the clit mouse 24/7
Clit mouse is love.
Clit mouse is life.
I'm pretty much locked into buying thinkpads now because i can't stand using trackpads anymore. Especially modern 'clickpads'.
anyone here with a t420 using thinkfan have a config i can steal? this is mine currently but im not sure what to put in for my correction values, and i dont think i need the first linetp_fan /proc/acpi/ibm/fan
tp_thermal /sys/devices/virtual/thermal/thermal_zone0/temp (0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0)
tp_thermal /sys/devices/platform/coretemp.0/hwmon/hwmon1/temp3_input (0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0)
tp_thermal /sys/devices/platform/coretemp.0/hwmon/hwmon1/temp1_input (0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0)
tp_thermal /sys/devices/platform/coretemp.0/hwmon/hwmon1/temp2_input (0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0)
(0, 0, 42)
(1, 40, 47)
(2, 45, 52)
(3, 50, 57)
(4, 55, 62)
(5, 60, 67)
(6, 65, 72)
(7, 70, 77)
(127, 75, 32767)
The X250 and your X220 will have similar processing power but one RAM slot and shit design. Would avoid.
The top strip is attached with plastic connectors. Apparently a lid replacement would be in order unless you can find a way to solder or glue the tiny connectors in place. Not sure how hard that would be because I've never experienced it on my machine (had it since August 2011).
HDD and mSATA is a good combination. Currently have over a terabyte of total space (128GB mSATA + 1TB HDD). If you shave off the tabs you can fit a 9.5mm HDD which could let you take that even higher. A new battery would also be good if you find yourself on the road a lot.
Yeah, I find myself away from power a lot. When I first got it I LOVED all day battery life, now I struggle to get 3 hours out of a charge. I know that's average for some laptops, but i guess I'm spoiled.
What really tempts me about the X250 is better 3D performance and 1080P. I like some light gaming on the go.
With dual-channel RAM the X220's iGPU is surprisingly fast. The X240 only comes in 20-30% faster in benchmarks. Run it in single-channel mode however and performance falls by 30-40%. It's a decent gaming machine unless you're looking for DX11.
And there's been talk about fitting a 1080p panel in an X220. Apparently it's been done but it involves a lot of work. Possibly worth a look if you're so inclined.
At least the X250 has the trackpoint buttons.
Yeah, i've got an 8GB dual-channel kit in. Decent memory, it's some Corsair gaymen RAM I got off a friend after he found out it wouldn't boot in his T400. Most things are decently quick but Morrowind still bogs down from time to time.
Yeah, I saw the korean dude and the 1080p panel, iirc he had to tap into a Displayport line from the docking connector and some other crazy shit.
Also wanting to dump Windows 7, debating between loonix and windows 10 preview. Thoughts?
Running Debian on mine. Out of the box battery stinks but most components work fine. With some tweaking I'm getting 8-9 hours out of a 9-cell. Would imagine Windows 10 to have driver issues because Lenovo a shit but don't take my word for it.
The top strip is really a design issue. Ever since they found it was cheaper to include all antennas at the factory and plug them in according to config rather than config the antennae per machine, the plastic strip was there to form an RF window due to the Mg alloy lid. And because they decided to include 3G/4G antennas in all of them, they said fuck it and made it bigger too, thus arriving at the present issue.
I'd just glue and hope it sticks.
I, too, want to stick Windows 10 preview on my X220(t). But it is currently my only computer as I've lent my Optiplex to my sister...
So I've decided against it, for now.
Main OS is Windows 7.
I also have Linux Mint on a 32GB flash drive that I use while at school because one, they make you run some sketchy software before connecting to their network and I don't know what it is, so I didn't want it on my main OS, and two, being stuck to the 1366x768 display the multiple workspaces really come in handy.
X series has always retained Mg alloy casing
The T series moved to CFRP/GFRP as of the T61
However, the T series slim retained an Mg alloy base while the lid was CFRP
The T series u (as in the T430u) was Al alloy
However, the T/W series for the better part did maintain the internal Mg alloy rollcage. Although after the **00, the lid portion of the rollcage started disappearing.
I can't seem to find it on their drivers page either.. (this http://www.lenovo.com/ThinkPadDrivers )
So, install and run this;
And just uncheck everything you don't want except for the Active Protection System / Airbag Protection.
Also, I'm pretty sure it does not work if the HDD is in the Ultrabay.
I ordered a t400. The package arrived densely packed with shredded paper and for a second I thought I was scammed and they sent me a bag of bricks, but after pouring out all the shredded paper (there was a lot) came out a beautiful, pristine condition T400 with a WXGA+ screen.
Even the rubber coating gleamed, I've never seen that before in a used thinkpad.
All the typical worn down shiny spots?
None to be found, this thing was probably never even used.
Only one small problem, the listing promised a working 6-cell battery, this one won't even charge.
I'll have to complain about that.
Other than that, I'm thoroughly satisfied
I'll post pictures later when It's all set up!
>dad comes home from work
>office gave him a new 700 series thinkpad
>excited because doom doesn't run on my 386
>install doom on dad's laptop
>play doom for hours in monochrome
>eyes start to hurt, feel like shit
>shut down dad's laptop
>throw up in the bathroom
I just need a note taker/movie watcher/programming laptop to take to class
I'm mostly looking for something portable as I mainly need those three things (Movie watcher is hardly even a consideration)
Should I go with a thinkpad, was thinking an X2xx or should I go for the botnet and load ubuntu onto a chromebook?
I feel like this is entirely pointless to ask in a thinkpad general, as everyone here probably prefers them, but I just thought I'd get some opinions
I've got a chance to still buy an extended warranty for my X220, is it worth it for £55?
I've got some bad image retention issues with my IPS panel so the cost of the warranty extension would be cheaper than a new IPS panel from ebay.
Have an old powerpc ibook and looking to install a linux distro on it. Preferably something up to date.
Gentoo won't work with the firmware version I think as it just ejects the disc on reboot.
I have an acer c720 that I had loaded up with seabios and xubuntu, it worked well providing you took the time to fix everything or use the premade iso, but the screen resolution just sucks when it comes to programming.
So I reset it all to stock and bought a t430s with the screen upgrade.
>tfw there was a time when budget thinkpads weren't total shit
What went wrong? The R60 is still a solid machine compared to newer budget laptops like the Edge.
Forgot to point out: it's literally the only ThinkPad option, otherwise I'm going for some cheapass 15" Asus, HP or Lenovo. Or Lenovo Edge11 11.6" / 2Gb/ 250Gb/ Intel GMA HD for half the price.
how are the temps on your x201 machines? mine's fans are constantly on and from the noise it would seem at least 3000 rpm, if comparing to x200. looks like intel i cores run pretty hot. oh well, i havent taken the time to get an ssd and installing and ricing linux on it yet unlike on my x200.
how are your idle power consumptions by the way? my x200t is taking 7,6W on openbox desktop with wireless radios on and screen brightness at 60%, Some guy on thinkpad forums reports energy rate as low as 5,5W, but he didnt provide details, guy's probably turned the radis and backlight competely off.R
X220 boasts improved battery life, 100 percents better GPU power, somewhat beefier cpu and the possibility for a slice battery. also some configurations come with IPS screens, but they have their flaws too.
on the bad side, X220 has a flimsy palmrest and 16:9 screen.
you need to consider if those features are worth the price. you can actually install an AFFS screen in the x201, which is pretty much the same thing as IPS.
i have a noname chinese battery with 9 SANYO cells, i have used it for one and a half year and its holding up strong at 85 percent capacity. paid 55 euros for it, it was from this site subtel.fi.
ps. subtel provides batteries throughout europe. they also have at least german, italian and french language sites as well.
oh and their batteries also come with 2 year warranty, so you can be pretty safe trusting they wont sell you shit.
also the prices are lower in the german site it seems.
hopefully you live in EU though. Then again if you live in america you can probably find cheaper deals.
not hard. It has some kind of auto-install and then you just add a few packages with your favorite software.
Seems kinda slow though. Gotta figure that out. Not sure if some driver is not working correctly
How does it make you guys feel that Elitebooks are superior to Thinkpads? Because of HP its heavy presence in Enterprise, they are actually available as refurb for the price they are worth instead of paying for the "Thinkpad" name.
A 2560p (which is easily an x230 equivalent) sells for 300$ max (i7, SSD, 4GB ram or more).
It has always been advised to not buy new. This isn't a new concept just invented for 2014/2015 ThinkPads.
The whole point of ThinkPad hype is that they are cheap to pick up secondhand, making them an extremely good value.
This makes it tempting to buy for the fun of it.
I think I may want some machine just for internet browsing and timewasting. Whats probably the cheapest Thinkpad that can still be used for internet and youtube stuff?
T61 can easily do that and are really cheap now, plus you can find 15.4" ones with 1920*1200 screens, which is really good
I was wondering, as an owner of multiple thinkpads and docking station, I wanted to know what would happen if I were to plug the 170W power adapter from my w520 on my x220t
I believe it wouldn't be a good idea because of the little thing preventing you from plugging it into other thinkpads but well, just wondering
>How does it make you guys feel that Elitebooks are superior to Thinkpads?
It makes me feel like Elitebook enthusiasts should post more info so /g/ can evaluate. I have no problem with owning any good PC.
I was thinking that too, but since the x220t is supposed to be used with either a 65W or a 90W power adapter isn't using a 170W one going to damage it?
Coming from a ex-8470p owner I can say the build on Elitebooks is good, if not better than the equivalent TP.
Keyboard and trackpoint isn't as good, and the keyboard light is useless.
Apart from that the ease of access to the guts is blows the fuck out of everything else on the market. Tool free back panel, and everything else has captive screws (i.e. you unscrew them and the screws stay in place as they are held in by springs).
They look sexy in their own right as well, shame they ditched this style as it looks so fucking good.
I was thinking about desktop power supply, it getting a 500W or a 1500W one won't change a thing if you don't go higher than 400W
Would a 90 and a 170W power adapter work the same or is it completely different?
I'm not saying that they designed the 170W plug in a way that only fits into the W520 for a reason, but maybe hey designed the 170W plug in a way that only fits into the W520 for a reason.
>is the top part covered
take off the keyboard and see for yourself
>Won't it damage the bit where you connect the hard drive as well?
well I guess it depends what you stick in there and how much you let it rattle around... could just put a piece of tape over the connectors I guess
I never actually used the Ultrabay caddy for this purpose, I just stuck some junk in it to take a picture. (seriously, why would someone need a RAM stick and $1 bill hidden in a compartment?)
>take off the keyboard and see for yourself
Don't have one yet.
Planning on doing this when I get a x220t, with the ultrabase, maybe.
>I never actually used the Ultrabay caddy for this purpose, I just stuck some junk in it to take a picture. (seriously, why would someone need a RAM stick and $1 bill hidden in a compartment?)
You can keep Lenovo's shit if you want to go back to the bloated windows installation someday, but I'd recommend erasing every partitions and creating a new one for your windows to install on
When I replaced my OEM Win7 on my X220 with Win8.1, I just allah snackbar'd all the partitions, installed Windows off a regular iso for Win8.1 Embedded, and got the drivers I needed off Lelnovo's site.I suggest you do the same, you really don't need a lot of Lelnovo's bloatware, which takes a considerable amount of space.
That guy^ is just an autist, your question was very reasonable.
Yes, clit mice are the bomb. Apple touchpads are pretty decent, but trackpoints have the potential to be way better.
I say that very carefully. Trackpoints are not necessarily better than touchpads. Dell trackpoints are pretty awful. HP just as much.
But a thinkpad trackpoint is the best form of mouse input on a laptop, hands down... To the extent that I miss it on my desktop.
Having issues with X201 bluetooth drivers.
The one's supplied by Lenovo are useless, I can connect my device (Plantronics BackBeat Go 2) and get about five minutes of audio out, and then it becomes an "Unknown device"
Apparently bluetooth issues are all too common with X201 s. What can I do about it? I'd even be willing to swap out the wifi/bluetooth card if necessary as long as it's not up to chance.
>Found a T30 at the thrift store this weekend for $35.
>512MB RAM, 40GB HD
>Keybaord needs cleaning, but all appears to work fine
>Install Mint Xcfe, A little pokey, chokes playing video files, but does YouTube fine as long as I don't move the mouse.
>Just ordered a Bluetooth card and Ultrabay HD adapter
>Looking to max ram to 2GB and maybe even getting an SSD.
What level of stupid am I?
BT module was $4, then I can use a BT mouse without taking up one of the two USB ports. Seller also had the Ultrabay adapter, so I figured I'd get it too to make the sale worth their while.
RAM upgrade looks to be about $15, and I'll have a nice light-task machine. If it doesn't crap out in a month, then maybe I'll watch for a cheap, <128GB SSD.
Also, if I were to buy a new keyboard to replace it (The one posted above) what is included?
I'd like to avoid buying it only to find out it won't fix the broken D key (different than the other originally posted x201)
A replacement keyboard is the whole keyboard, the only thing it can't fix is a broken connector on the mobo, but I've never seen that
Got a T510i not so long ago, planning on putting a SSD in it along side the 1TB hdd and put 6/8GB of ram in it and then give it to my girlfriend.
Need to replace the keyboard as well because it's a little broken but they seem to be a tad expensive.
I have a problem with my X200. I wanted to switch the 2GB RAM module for a 4GB one which was in my Acer laptop I don't use anymore.
The Acer worked perfectly with the original 2gig module from the thinkpad, but when I wanted to fire up my X200, it started beeping like crazy. Switched the modules back and both of them run fine.
Why did this happen? I know the modules are working fine.
IBM was loosing money on PCs and it wasn't part of their long term strategy to focus on higher margin services/consulting/hardware.
That's also why they binned the Microelectronics and x86 server businesses.
Probably the way they sold things. The whole PC division in general rather. They didn't have a presence in the consumer market for the better part. And of course the high cost of production.
Mind you, ThinkPads back then were far more expensive than they are now, even with the Made by Acer shit like the iSeries.
I own a 15inch macbook pro with retina display and it's the single greatest laptop iv ever owned.
Be honest with me, the only reason you autists use chinkpads is because you can't afford a real laptop. I could at least respect you if you were honest.
>usable desktop unix
>os that supports highdpi properly
>best highdpi screen
as much as i'd like to own one there's too many downsides
Dude, two things
For one I don't like the look of macbooks and don't want to use OSX
And secondly, the reason why thinkpads are awesome is because used one are cheap, it's even written in the buyer's guide header
I could buy about two and a half macbook pro with retina display right now, but why pay extra cash when I can have a really nice laptop for a much lower price?
So If I get an X220, throw in an SSD and 8 gigs of RAM, how long roughly would it last me if I were running something like Xubuntu for daily web browsing, anime consuming, and maybe some old console emulation? I'm seeing them for a pretty good price but I'd like it to last at last four years or so.
Also, can you throw in a 1080p panel in this model or at least something better than 720?
>throw in an SSD
You will be able to put a mSATA SSD in place of the WWAN card (up to 1TB), but the main drive bay is 2.5" × 7mm (most laptop HDD are 2.5" × 9mm)
Aside from that, with what you're planning to do it will easily last 4 years, if not more
And I heard about a mod to get a 1080p panel in a x220, but from what I know it involve soldering and sound like a lot of pain in the ass, you should look into it if you're interested though
1280x720 =/= 1366x768
don't call it 720(p)
Also, I feel like my X220 can easily last me 4 years. At which point I'll hopefully not be a poorfag and can buy new desktops and laptops, etc.
I'll look into both of those, thanks.
I knew it wasn't exactly 720 but couldn't remember the exact specification, thanks for correcting me. And yeah, at some point I'm hoping to have a dedicated gaming PC built that's hooked up to my TV and use that if I ever need something beefier.
I had a X220t for a while and it was pretty gimmicky. Not good enough for drawing, and it felt weird holding something that heavy to use as a tablet for the UI. Also looks like shit IMO.
As a tablet you hold it by the battery at the back, and even as totally non muscular 20 years man I can hold it with one arm without feeling any pain
But again, aside from drawing a bit or playing OSU! it's not that useful
Yeah the X-series tablets are definitely not tablet replacements. Far too heavy and bulky.
Also I find portrait mode pretty much useless on my X220t because it's too skinny. I never use it in portrait mode except for reading books if I'm laying down/slouched.
Is a 380ED for 8 bucks, no charger, near-pristine condition worth it?
What could I use it for, typewriter? It has no fucking USB ports anyway, and I haven't got Win2000, any OS that can run on this shit and be useful? Fuck me. Looks tempting doe
> Intel Core i5-4300M
>500GB 7200 RPM HDD
>Intel HD Graphics 4600
Should I pull the trigger?
Why is my x220's CPU capped at 800mhz? If I run lscpu right when I boot up, it says the cpu is running at 2.3ghz but if I check again it's back down to 800mhz
I've set everything in the BIOS to maximum and disabled all the power snuffing bullshit
What fucking gives? And no, I'm not running without a battery. It does this regardless if I'm plugged in or not
While i try to export 30 pictures to jpg in lightroom, it gets up to 92c. Ive made sure there are space for air intake, but still. Before this, i actually had to get it fixed because its getting 70-80c idle. But that got fixed for free because 5yr warranty.( just expired a few days ago)
I'm all for blaming the jews at every available opportunity, but just admit you were wrong and didn't understand SpeedStep.
Next time, /sqt/
Yeah that's how mericunts do it too, MM/DD/YYYY. Though bongistans and yurops did it differently, along with Asians (where the thing was prolly manufactured).
Just wanted to make sure mine wasn't one of the fucked ones.
How does the x61 perform with xubuntu as a daily driver for someone just needing a Firefox machine? I'm poorfag at the moment and can snag one for $100, but wasn't sure if I should just save up and get a x220.
If it makes a difference I'll probably get an XPS 13 by years end.
If you want XP then chances are you just need to run a web browser. If that's correct then something like xubuntu or even lubuntu will do a great job of running light and keeping your code modern.
Does the T420 support any kind of 1920x1080 panel? That machine has everything I want besides that, and I don't want to pay nearly a thousand for an XPS or whatever just to get a modern resolution.
I need to replace my old pic related(Atom N270 1.6GHz, 2GB DDR2 and a shitty excuse for a graphics processor). The lid is broken and it is too slow for 1080p videos(or even 360p on youtube). I can't emulate some stuff properly, like some Neo-Geo and 5th gen consoles. My only real option for a used Thinkpad is an x100e. I suppose the at-least-it's-a-gpu Mobile Radeon 3200 can help me in regards to my multimedia needs, am I mistaken?