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Why is MPV so highly recommended? I've tried it out and

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Why is MPV so highly recommended? I've tried it out and see no difference. I'm playing anime too.

What is /g/'s recommended video player?
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>>45798019
that one that was posted a few days ago that's currently in beta
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>>45798019
Go compare it (k-lite or CCCP) side by side with VLC. Seriously, do it.
Find your favorite anime, preferably a decent BD rip, and pause at random places at the same time in both players, side by side. It is so blatantly obvious.
VLC mangles the image, and can't reproduce decent coloring.
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>>45798442
>that one that was posted a few days ago that's currently in beta

Way to be vague nigga.
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Because of opengl-hq upscaling presets, better subtitle support (from my experience) and vapoursynth compatibility.
Also it's KISS.
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All you'll ever need for anime:
http://files.nyaa.eu/HOW_DID_I_PLAYED_BACK.txt
Enjoy.
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>>45798456
>anime
OK, kid
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>>45798019
Mpv is awesome since it has the most features and I can play anything from the command line, ssh tunnel whatever
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>>45798475
Or you could install linux and not have to do any of that confusing stuff.
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>>45798566
>Or you could use mpv and not have to do any of that confusing stuff.
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>>45798019
SMplayer
MVP is also great
I'm going to watch that movie again.
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>>45798475
Or you can just type sudo apt-get install mpv and have everything just werk
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>>45798566
It's not hard, you don't even need to follow all the instructions, mpc-hc is already a good player alone (for windowz), that setup is only specific for improving quality when watching anime, since op was interested, I use that setup personally and it looks great.
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>>45798566
>click on this, clikk on that, search menu for...

Lel
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>>45798456
Can't see the difference on any random anime I have here.
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>>45798741

VLC used to display colors and contrast wrong on nvidia GPUs. Was this recently fixed?
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>>45798758
Dunno, it's been years since I've seen any vlc issues.
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>>45798826
those are different frames how the fuck is that picture useful
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>watching chinese childrens cartoons
>complain about colors and contrast discrepancies
When will it ever end?
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>>45798867
NEVER
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>>45798862
VLC doesn't let me choose lower than seconds to jump to, so it's hard to time it exactly.
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>>45798892

If you hit capital "S" you can avoid the sub titles.
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>>45798867
i find it fucking hilarious that these weebs will go as far as to programming their own placebo players just so they can watch moe-shit without seeing banding on the chair in the background
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>>45798907
Does VLC not let you play frame by frame?
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MPC-HC is the official weeb approved player for Windows and MPlayer if you use GNU/Linux or Mac OS.
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>>45798961
>MPC-HC is the official weeb approved player for Windows

Windows users are clueless plebs. It's mostly placebo.

MPC:HC "properly set up" will do the exact same as MPV right out of the box. There's no difference.

So go with the simpler, lighter program. MPV plays huge bitrate files full speed on my shitty laptop. MPC:HC lags on it.
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>>45798923
this
it's the analogue to audiophiles of the video world
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>>45798961
mplayer is deprecated
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>>45798019
It's comparable to madVR but much more lightweight/efficient and also open source + cross-platform.

That's why MPV is so highly recommended.

oh, it also has good color management support, and AFAIK the first working implementation of BT.2020
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>>45798982
Also there's Baka Mplayer for Windows which uses libmpv.
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>Windows
MPC-HC
>Any other OS
mpv
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>>45799910
>any OS
mpv
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http://mpv.srsfckn.biz/
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well if your on windows all the modern neckbeards are using potplayer.
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>>45799945
>windows
>modern
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Any Windows user with madVR installed here that could help me out with something?
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>>45798019
You won't notice as much improvement with already bitrate-starved re-encodes, beyond enhancing their artifacts.

mpv is mainly recommended for its colorspace conversions, scaling, and other renderer aspects.

I think MadVR looks ever so slightly better, and is more configurable, personally. But when you start getting into this upper end, you reach a point of diminishing returns. mpv's main advantage is that it provides the same high quality processing and output, while being much lighter on resource usage. Also runs on most OS.

I read back my own words and sound like a marketer. That's a clear sign of retarded (literally, suppressed) neurological function, as far as wider branching awareness. Oughta just kill myself one of these days.
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>>45798019
Patlabor is a fucking great movie series, OP. Good taste.

Post your configs!

# Video
vo=vdpau
vf=vdpaupp:hqscaling=1
hwdec=vdpau
sws-scaler=x

# Audio
ao=pulse
af=bs2b
audio-channels=downmix

# Subs
ass-force-style=Kerning=yes
demuxer-mkv-subtitle-preroll
sub-text-font="OpenSans-Semibold"
sub-text-font-size=60
sub-text-margin-y=24
sub-text-color="#FFFFFF"
sub-text-border-color="#000000"
sub-text-border-size=2
sub-text-shadow-offset=1.25
sub-text-shadow-color="#303030"
sub-text-spacing=0

# OSD
osd-font="OpenSans-Semibold"
osd-font-size=42
osd-bar-h=5
osd-bar-w=90
osd-bar-align-y=0.5
osd-color='#FFFFFF'
osd-border-color='#000000'
osd-border-size=2
osd-shadow-offset=1.25
osd-shadow-color='#303030'
osd-spacing=0

# Tracks
alang=jpn,jap,Japanese,en,eng,English
slang=jpn,jap,Japanese,en,eng,English

# Screenshots
screenshot-format=png
screenshot-png-filter=4
screenshot-png-compression=4
screenshot-template=~/mpv_ss_%F_[%tY.%tm.%td_%tH:%tM:%tS]

# Other
geometry=50%:50%
no-border
no-resume-playback
cache=262144
script-opts=osc-layout=bottombar
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I use mpc-be. Works well.
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>>45800028
madVR's main advantage these days is that it has stuff like NNEDI3, jinc, flash3kyuu or whatever cancer built-in by default.

If somebody would care about having any of those in mpv, it would help if you filed an issue with the specifics of the algorithm you want. So far, nobody seems to have really cared.

madVR's main /disadvantage/, of course, is that it's 1. closed source, 2. the author has said he might charge in the future, 3. it only works with DirectShow (the cancer of all media APIs), and by virtue of that, Windows (the cancer of all operating systems)
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>>45800028
>00000.m2ts
Did you buy the Bluray or download a rip?
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>>45798741
I think vlc's looks a bit unsaturated. Try something with lots of red on it. To really see the differences you have to overlay the screenshots.
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>>45800017
Shoot
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>>45800028
And this is taken with mpv. I just used the built in screenshot functions, obviously. Don't feel like printscreening.

They're quite similar. If you were to compare them directly, most differences showing up would be dither patterns, differences between spline and jinc for chroma upsampling, etc.

>>45800061
All advantages are potentially a disadvantage, when viewed in the right context. Most of em, anyway. NNEDI3, while being a good neural network based interpolator, and being great at diagonal hard edges, often produce an output that too synthetic. As far as I'm concerned, unless you have a top of the line card, it's better off just being used as a field-based interpolator, for video editing. (Orphaned fields, etc). That's just me. It runs poorly on the highest neuron count, so maybe I haven't been able to test properly, and maybe I'm too used to jinc.

I'm not sure why you're complaining about having a built-in debanding algorithm, that can easily be switched on and off with hotkeys. It'd be nice to have a good realtime, shape adaptive, deblocking algorithm as well. Something that is passed information about the source format's compression settings, and can make assumptions based on that. Or would that be cancer as well?

MadVR beingclosed source is unfortunate, but the guy can do whatever he wants to with his project. It's not hard to understand non-malicious reasons someone would prefer this way of working on something. It isn't the future yet, so people can start ditching it when or if that actually happens. People run Windows, people will use good renderers for Windows. What is your point here? The world won't always, or honestly, won't ever truly work how you see as intelligent or ideal. I suggest you get used to that, and slowly go mad internally.
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>>45800244
http://www.nand.wakku.to/ramps.tar.xz

These two files should look identical:

709_2020c.mkv
709_2020nc.mkv

Ideally, both should also look identical to 709_709.mkv but that's probably just the case if you have color management enabled.

The other files are less important (2020_2020c and 2020_2020nc should also look identical, and 2020_709 should look fucked up no matter what)
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>>45800119
Downloaded a rip (from Share).
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>>45800218
This comment is so stereotypical of 4chan's mentality I couldn't help laughing out loud.
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Tried VLC and mpv. I compiled mpv myself, and got the prebuilt binaries from my repos for VLC. Ran a few tests, and I saw no quality difference from VLC to mpv, and actually noticed that VLC used 10% less CPU, as well as provided more features and keybinds.
Why are you part of the mpv hivemind, /g/?
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>>45800264
>>45800028
That's not even the same frame.
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>>45798019
Fuck yeah, Patlabor 2 is an awesome movie. I've never even seen any other Patlabor stuff before.
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>>45800061
You can get NNEDI3 and f3kdb as vapoursynth scripts with mpv, and it works great. nnedi requires a very good computer though.
Also MadVR's smooth motion is being implemented into mpv.
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>>45800316
Good for you but probably didn't have hardware decoding on with mpv. Use what you're comfortable with but I find it laughable that you think VLC has more keybinds (I don't know if this is really the case).
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>>45800361
You should watch the first movie. It's just as good, if not better.
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Speaking of color management, could someone explain to me why after downscaling a video with ffmpg the color changes? I need to use a colormatrix filter that.
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>>45800379
>I find it laughable that you think VLC has more keybinds
>I don't know if this is really the case
So why is it laughable? I tried multiple settings for mpv, and I'm sure I hit hardware decoding. It may be different for each cpu or graphics card, but from what I found vlc works better.
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>>45800398
*filter to fix that.
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>>45798019
>What is /g/'s recommended video player?
MPV, with a decent mpv.conf.
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>>45800319
Close enough. mpv has no function to seek to an exact frame, and I don't feel like screwing around with it. Has generally all the same composition, and illustrates the point.
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>>45800398
Probably because the file isn't tagged correctly. Not your fault, almost nothing on the internet is, and most programs won't tag by default.

The unfortunate implication is that, out of practical necessity, modern video programs have all ended up guessing the colormatrix based on resolution - 720p and other HD resolutions get mapped to BT.709, and anything below that (SD) gets mapped to Bt.601.

So if your file isn't tagged correctly, the downscaled content will get interpreted as BT.601, even though it's technically still the same content (which should be BT.709).

Converting from BT.709 to BT.601 manually fixes it.
Tagging the file with BT.709 would probably also fix it.

Try playing both versions (large and small) using mpv --colormatrix=BT.709 and seeing if they match up.
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lol
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>>45800464
Yes it does. Use . (forward) and , (backward)
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>>45800464
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>>45800464
Use , and . to seek frame-by-frame
Click on the time in the OSD to show the time with milliseconds
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How do I use an ICC profile with mpv?
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>>45800484
Exact frame number*
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>>45800457
It's just "config" and "input.conf", there is no mpv.conf, inbred.
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>>45800490
>>45800464
I see 0 difference here.
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>>45800497
man mpv

Search for ‘icc-profile’
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>>45800503
from the manpage:

CONFIGURATION FILES
Location and Syntax
You can put all of the options in configuration files which will be
read every time mpv is run. The system-wide configuration file
'mpv.conf' is in your configuration directory (/etc/mpv), the user-spe‐
cific one is ~/.config/mpv/mpv.conf. User-specific options override
system-wide options and options given on the command line override
either. The syntax of the configuration files is option=<value>; every‐
thing after a # is considered a comment. Options that work without val‐
ues can be enabled by setting them to yes and disabled by setting them
to no. Even suboptions can be specified in this way.
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>>45800506
Human perception is typically more sensitive to brightness than color. If you were to compare them by their exact RGB values, a large number of pixels would be very different. Probably with many around hard or contrasting edges. I don't have the program to do those direct comparisons, if anyone has something viable, feel free.

Point remains though, at the upper end, you hit a point of diminishing returns. Typically, there's little perceptible difference unless you study the two, and then study them in motion.
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>>45800526
Do you even use mpv?
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Why is vdpau decoding slower than software decoding on my machine?
I have a Radeon HD 6870 using open source drivers.
I have no problem with software decode, but hardware decoding is slow as hell.
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>>45800490
>>45800464
Are you sure you took these with mpv and MadVR? The only difference that I can see when substracting them is the noise of the movie. This seems a bit odd.

Pic related, I increased the level a bit to see the difference better.
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>>45800509
Can I use an ICC profile with VDPAU?
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>>45800475
They match, thank you very much. You explained it very well.
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>>45800589
Yes, and I also know how to RTFM so I don't look like a dumb fuck.
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>>45800611
I'm certain.
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>>45800049
I use p much default save for a few appearance tweaks
>>45800589
They changed it to mpv.conf awhile ago but the old one still works
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>>45800632
If you use mpv and never realized that there is no mpv.conf, you're certainly a dullard inbred.
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>>45800614
No. It isn't even a VDPAU sub-option.

That flag is specific to vo=opengl. (But you probably want to use it with opengl-hq, or at least fbo-format=rgba16 or better)
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>>45798019
It's simple, lightweight, and produces a better image than VLC. With some tweaking of the config file it can look even better.
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>>45800651
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Mpv
https://github.com/mpv-player/mpv/blob/master/etc/example.conf
http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/trusty/man1/mpv.1.html
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>>45800714
Congratulations!
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>>45800049
>
audio-channels=downmix

What happens if I set it to auto and play a 5.1 movie in a stereo setup?
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>>45800736
I think it will downmix automatically, but I set that so I know that it does.
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>>45798019
what anime?
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>>45800611
Same frames, taken with printscreen instead.
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>>45800651
This is bait, but MPV does look for a configuration file each time it starts. If you make one it will set the settings from the config file.

Most Linux software is this way, it's just that a lot of distributions will give you a config file to start with in the install package.
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>>45800746
Sounds louder when I set it to auto, though. But I can't tell if I'm hearing all the 6 channels or just 2.
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>>45800799
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>>45800799
Oh, I should have told you that earlier. Taking a screenshot in mpv with the ‘s’ key takes a screenshot of the actual source file, at its native resolution.

You really have to take direct screenshots with the printscreen key to compare them accurately.
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>>45800795
HACK-JOB. It says it in the filename.
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>>45800795
Look at the filename, m8.

What can I add to this vo to add more quality (or placebo)

vo=opengl-hq:pbo:lscale=spline64:cscale=spline64:dither-depth=8:temporal-dither:fancy-downscaling:icc-profile=~/Documents/profile.icc:icc-cache=~/Documents/icc-cache
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>>45800597
Sounds like you're fucking something up, my pissant E-350 APU and HD6450 card can chew through 1080p vdpau no problem.
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http://www.nand.wakku.to/A003C007_120507_short.mkv
>MadVR fag status: TOLD

only mpv master race displays this clip correctly. (And only if you use :srgb or :icc-profile)
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>>45800799
>>45800829
Same result
Maybe the noise is actually from the renderer (debanding?) and not grain from the movie since these are the same frames.

Could you post one but change the upscaling option in madvr to bilinear or something and another one with the debanding filter disabled?
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>>45800398
>.gif
lol
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>>45800882
Debanding is disabled. I almost never use it, beyond the odd rare occasion.

Do you mean the anti-ringing function?
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>>45800882
>debanding
Noise like this is much more likely to have come from dithering, which literally adds noise.

I think madVR should dither by default. mpv only dithers if dither-depth is set (which it really ought to be, I'm surprised opengl-hq doesn't have this by default).
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>>45800843
It says in the file name, but it's Patlabor 2.
www.imdb.com/title/tt0124770/

www.imdb.com/title/tt0100339
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>>45800218
I don't know if this is still true, but at one point VLC had the color matrix issue fixed in what was displayed on screen, but not in screenshots. So if you took a VLC screenshot of something red, it would look slightly different from what was actually displayed.
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>>45798475
>windows
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>>45800882
MadVR using bilinear for chroma (and luma, but shouldn't matter).

Worth stating, MadVR is set to use error diffusion method 2, use colored noise, and change dither pattern every frame. I imagine the last setting is canceled out by error diffusion being on though.

>>45800954
I have dither-depth set to 8. Dither method set as fruit, but if I recall it's default anyway. dither-size-fruit is set to 8, but I was testing this. Does using a larger size have any positive effect? I noticed grain seemed finer with this setting.
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>>45798475
That really seems like a huge pain to do
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I tried installing and playing a video with MPV but there's no controls to pause the video or anything

what the fuck
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>>45801056
The whole thing takes like 5 minutes to do and then you don't have to mess with it again. You can also just use CCCP which does all that for you. The person that sets those up was probably Daiz who is a fag and obsessed with quality
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>>45801054
8 bit dithering shouldn't be noticeable no matter what size you set it to.
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>>45801077
press space

solved your problem
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>>45801077
Press the space bar
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>>45801077
You don't see this?
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>>45801077
move your mouse over the video
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Why would you willingly add dither to your video? That's just...
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>>45801147
>what is quantization error
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>>45801077
p
space bar
right click
pause on the osc

come on man
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>>45801131
what the fuck is wrong with your window decorations and traffic lights and shit?
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Why does this shit even matter to most of you if you're not using an IPS or greater display
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>>45801203
>traffic lights
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>>45801213
I'm using an unreleased 70" 8K OLED display, pleb.
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>>45800218
If you have to look that hard to see issue there's nothing fucking wrong with VLC
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>>45801203
OS X Yosemite
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>>45801223
lol
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>>45801219
c-can i come over and we can make a fort with blankets and pillows and watch stuff?
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>>45801213
this is /g/, most of us are using IPS mustard rice screens

except for the poorfags who wish they had them

$2000 monitor reporting in
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>>45798758
This was only on Windows and was the fault of Nvidia's crappy drivers, not VLC.
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>>45801244
Sure, do you like cute girls doing cute things anime and giant vibrating dildos?

>>45801258
>>45801213
>IPS
>No blacks
Enjoy your light bleeding.
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>>45801277
>curved display
literally cancer
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>>45801277
enjoy your 5 year lifespan
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>>45801277
I was lucky enough to get some IPS panels from Korea when they were cheap and it has no backlight bleed or dead pixels. Next year will be good for monitors too Freesync and maybe even better refresh rate monitors
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>>45798019
VLC.
All the issues with VLC that people regularly complain about were fix years ago and/or are only present on Windows.

MPV is laggy trash that over-saturates everything, barely has a GUI, and has no where near the feature set of VLC.

MPC-HC
>Windows only.
>http://files.nyaa.eu/HOW_DID_I_PLAYED_BACK.txt
>People who actually post that link seriously.
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>>45801345
>needing a gui
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>>45801277
Vacuum tube home theater?
I think we might have the same one
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>>45801277
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Anon bought a curved TV
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>>45801355
You don't need one with VLC, but a least you have one if you want it.
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>>45801277
>cute girls doing cute things
D-d-do you like SS-S-Sora no Woto?
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>>45801345
>MPV is laggy trash that over-saturates everything
Now you're not even trying

MPV is literally the only video player in existence that has correct color management and rendering.
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>>45801384
mpc-hc
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>>45801402
>le master trolle
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>>45801407
I forgot, /g/ doesn't use windows cuz ther 2 hipz!
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>>45801469
no, I mean mpc-hc literally doesn't do color management
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>>45801474
MPC-HC: View --> Renderer Settings --> Color Management --> Enable
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>>45801480
Hahahaha oh right, I forgot they added their shitty excuse for CMS to EVR CP. (which also doesn't come close to madVR in terms of IQ, btw, which is what you SHOULD be using mpc-hc with)

Regardless, there is one point I absolutely cannot lose on, no matter what:

BT.2020 support

Every player other than mpv will get it wrong.
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>>45801383
It's my favorite anime. S2 never.

>>45801376
>>45801361
That was from google image search, actually.
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>>45800650
Share your mpv.conf please
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>>45798741
VLC used to have a lot of issues with rendering, dealing with different fonts for subs, banding, and it always looked really saturated.

It doesn't have those issues anymore, I think. But it's still bloated and inferior at 1080p to madVR and LAV filters.
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>>45798475
>>45798566
Or get KCP, an optimized MPC-HC for anime.
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>>45801596
it's just "config", dumb bitch
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>>45801596
vo=opengl-hq
hwdec=vda
volume=100
screenshot-template='~/Desktop/%F %p'
autofit-larger=90%x90%
no-osc

sub-text-font='Helvetica Neue:style=Medium'
sub-text-font-size=48
sub-text-margin-y=42
sub-text-color='#ececea'
sub-text-border-color='#29292b'
sub-text-border-size=1.5

osd-bar=no
osd-font='Helvetica Neue:style=Light'
osd-font-size=45
osd-border-size=1
osd-color='#fdfdfd'
osd-border-color='#6b6b70'

slang=jp,jpn,en,eng
alang=jp,jpn,en,eng

If you want the custom osc copy this https://github.com/mpv-player/mpv/blob/master/player/lua/osc.lua to ~/.mpv/scripts/ and change line 31 to layout = "slimbox" and r=0 in line 876

Copy the rest from here or change them as you see fit, you can see the line numbers in pic related
        -- styles
local styles = {
box = "{\\rDefault\\blur0\\bord1\\1c&H000000\\3c&HFFFFFF}",
timecodes = "{\\1c&HFFFFFF\\3c&H000000\\fs20\\bord1.5\\blur1}",
tooltip = "{\\1c&HFFFFFF\\3c&H000000\\fs20\\bord01\\blur1}",
}
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>>45798019
It's broken piece of shit recommended by autists.
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>>45801756
>faggotmite
hell naw
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