So why haven't you spent the big bucks to go full pro yet /g/

>literally a $3k trashcan

I guess you can say I have a hard time throwing money in a garbage can.

So I can make videos about it validating my purchase on youtube?
It will be poorly edited, of course.

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>>43192428
what is this? a door stopper?? No seriously, I don't need it. Its probably only for video editing or something like that.

>>43192469
B-but, the revolutionised airflow
>Six thunderbolt connections pls

>>43192428
If you're doing any sort of serious work on your computer that would require that much horsepower, you should buy a laptop and use the rest on a renderfarm.

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Because I bought a $3000 MacBook Pro for University

Because I don't need it, nor do I want it.

I am a fan of the improved airflow, and I would love to see a PC case take advantage of something similar while maintaining the focus on standardized technology formats. But as it is now, I really REALLY don't care.

Aren't the GPUs completely outdated by now?

YEAHHH!!! Another mac thread...because there haven't been enough today

>>43192428
I have no need for such a server

>>43192635
Yes.
They're using AMD FirePro D300 or D500. Not bad, but there are better options that won't cost $3000.

>>43192635
The 4000$ model has a performance comparable to the GTX760

>>43192689
>GTX760
Oh wow, that's hilariously bad.

>>43192689
>>43192714
They're not for gaming.
Don't be stupid.

>>43192754
They don't stand up to workstation cards either.

>>43192714
And hilariously false. Still shit though for 3000 dollars. Design is cool though. Too bad you can't do much with it.

Shill somewhere else please.

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>>43192763
>D500
>2.2 TFLOPs

>GTX760
>2.3 TFLOPs

Excusez moi

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>>43192428

>single-processor
>requires a high-latency external card cage for expansion
>needs to be placed on a desk where it takes up more space than a real workstation while offering far less expandability or longevity compared to cheaper systems

>>43192754

>they're not for gaming! that's why it can be shittier but more expensive!

trash can computer cases when?

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It looks like a giant 100 year old Edison Phonograph Cylinder...

>>43192754
>implying a 760 is worthy of a workstation that costs $3000
There are much better cards, especially for the applications Macs are used for, that would be much more fitting.
You could build a $3000 Hackintosh that would blow this thing out of the water.

>>43192762
>>43192816
I'm not defending the Trashcan by any means, I think the design was alright but very poorly executed. There is no way that central common sink could dissipate a worst case (What it SHOULD BE used for) scenario and come out with happy temps.
I'm simply saying that to compare between a workstation card and mainstream gaming card are really two different areas of proficiency.

>>43192826
About as powerful too.

I've always wanted to buy a $3k trashcan facebook machine

>>43192853

That's what I was saying as well. I actually like the old Mac Pro, this one just completely misses the point. I really hope nobody buys it and forces them to go back to the drawing board.

How about we have generals for Windows, Mac OS, and GNU/Linux and anyone who starts a thread related to any of these things while there's already a thread will get banned?

These things use Xeons. Do you even need a Xeon for the kind of work this thing was made for?

>>43192428

Because heterosexual.

>>43192877
You cannot seriously be implying the possibility of people not buying this. It's Apple. It could literally be a trashcan with an outdated motherboard and people would still buy it for $3000. They'd call it a bargain, and the most appropriate machine they could have purchased for the job.

Oh wait...

>>43192853
>I'm simply saying that to compare between a workstation card and mainstream gaming card are really two different areas of proficiency.
And what I'm saying is that it's not a workstation card in any meaningful measure.
>No ECC RAM
>Doesn't use workstation drivers
>Don't support 10 bit color
The D700 is a severely downclocked 7970 using Apple drivers.

>>43192899

Then this board would die because it's literally 85% shitposting about any of those three.

>>43192905

Define "the kind of work this thing was made for".

If it's CPU-heavy rendering then very much so.

>>43192877
>I really hope nobody buys it and forces them to go back to the drawing board.
How will somebody buying it force them back to the drawing board?

>>43192905
A Xenon helps, but it's not necessary.
That's really the least of this thing's shortcomings.

>>43192918

http://www.prweb.com/releases/2013/11/prweb11318177.htm

don't really have a lot of other links, but it seems to have pissed off some people who actually bought them as workstations since it's the same price as the old one but to expand or customize it you need to spend an extra $300-$500 on top of that

>>43192947
Wait... they bought a Mac and got upset because there's a $0.5k pricetag on upgrading?

Are they for real? They willingly dug their grave, they can't complain about it.

>>43192942

nobody buys it and IT (the act of nobody buying it) forces them to go back to the drawing board

I know it's a pipe dream, but still, I miss that old case.

>>43192972

Considering the old ones had onboard PCIe expansion and drive bays, yeah, I would be pretty pissed off too if the next model I had hoped to buy was instead gimped for the "space saver" yuppie/hipster crowd.

Workstations are always overpriced, the Pro a little more.

I already have a trashcan in my house, it's made of plastic and works great.

>>43192905

Larger caches, multiprocessing support, more cores.

So yeah, considering the Mac Pro is mostly aimed at video editing.

>Square pcbs
>not circular and square to match the case
Lazy motherfuckers.

>>43193031
They'd probably be a bitch to assemble.

>>43193045
Just make the PCB larger than necessary and cut the excess in the form a circle.

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>>43192428
Case on Amazon is going for 60 bucks.

>>43193045
Yet the poor chinks that assemble them are not getting a raise in their salary.

>>43193080
>new Mac Pro is in the related items
hahaha

I would really like to pick up a broken Mac Pro and turn it into a trashcan.

Gaming laptop masterrace here.

I have no need for desktops.

>>43193125
>he bought a gaming laptop
>he gave into marketing hype

>>>/v/

>>43192591
many review sites did tests on its "improved, unique airflow" that showed it isn't adequate enough to run both the cpu and gpu at max speeds maxed out at the same time. it ends up downclocking its self to stay within safe temps. unlike the previous mac pros that used regular cases and cooling systems that allowed for both cpu and gpu to be maxed out at max speeds perfectly fine.

the trashcan fan system is all for looks and nothing more.

The Mac Pro is a neat piece of engineering, but I'm not sure anyone actually needs it to be a neat piece of engineering.

>>43192456
you bastard. i literally spent several minutes trying to find out about the weird-ass expensive trash can only to eventually figure out that it is in no way a some sort of futuristic designer trash can, like America's response to Japan's robotoilets.

My house doesn't even cost this much.

>>43193136
>>he gave into marketing hype

At least the marketing hype included a "sexy anchorwoman":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=biaTrx6clqs

I feel no shame for my actions.

>>43193186
You should have a lot of shame. You were Jewed.

>>43193107
as well as an actual trash can, which i hadn't noticed.

>>43193201
>You were Jewed.

I think the Jews would've wanted me to get a gaming desktop, a weak laptop, and a tablet for maximum shekels.

By only getting one device, they get less.


Plus, there's a sexy teacher:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3U9rhHe0E8

>>43192428
But I am..

I am going to get it plus a 27inch 100% Adobe RGB screen for my editing. Going to get the second base line model and upgrade the CPU to 10 core when I am ready

>>43193267
You were Jewed.
You lost.

>>43193292
$5000 later and PC users in the same field are laughing at you.

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>>43192428

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>>43193292
>I am going to get it
>plus a 27inch 100% Adobe RGB screen
Good job on your research there.

>>43193325
I don't get it?

>>43193302
>you were Jewed because you saved money

Sounds like you're the Jew here.


>your computer will never have marketing that's this good
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s34Jm92jHTE

>>43193394
>spends more
>saves money

I'm not entirely sure how your brain works.

I think it's weird they built a machine for "video pros" which can't use any nVidia cards.

It's like saying fuck your nVidia ecosystem, you're going with AMD and that's it.

If it's not upgradeable and doesnt support other video cards, how is this system supposed to be pro? It's more like for a new generation of hipster "pros" who will appreciate "the design" but won't mind whatever Apple rams down their throats.

>>43193464
i like how hipsters find trashcans appealing.

Because I've no reason to upgrade from my PowerMac G5

>>43193451
>buying one laptop costs more than buying a laptop and an equivalent desktop

Nice try, Mr. Jew.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y28Nf-K3-ZE

>>43193464
It is upgradeable. The RAM and CPU use standard sockets, SSDs and GPUs are proprietary connectors but neither are soldered. I don't know about the SSDs, but I've heard rumors that there are going to be 3rd party GPUs for it.
tl;dr
You're a shit eating assumption making moron.

>>43193578
You cant upgrade the video cards. That's basically the most important thing for a machine supposed to be for video pros.

>>43193595
Yes you can.

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>>43192428
Why would I spend big bucks on a simple router?

>>43193603
Then put 2 nVidia cards in it..

Wait, you can't.

>>43193611
Did you even read my post? My god you're a fucking moron. They're socketed daugterboards, which means replaceable. There's also speculation that third parties are going to manufacture different GPUs for it. This is not a fact but either way you can still install a Nvidia GPU via Thunderbolt. Regardless of what you say you can upgrade the GPU.

>>43193564

Why would you get the two if you don't need them? Are you really stupid and don't know whata good investment is? Are you retarded and tend to fuck up computers forcing you to buy a new one?

>>43192428
Waiting for rendering engines that use OpenCL and the next major revision

>>43193673
>Why would you get the two if you don't need them?

I need a decently powerful computer and I also need a laptop.

So I either meet both of these needs with a single powerful laptop, or I have to get separate devices for each need.

Only a Jew would have me choose the latter option.

>>43193738
Or you would go for the correct answer and go for the latter because a powerful laptop is still shit as far as desktops go.

>>43193642
yes, by spending >1k on a 500dls card upgrade

>>43193738
Are you going to just get an expensive laptop every time you come to this great decision?
Last I checked, you pretty much have to run most high end laptops into the ground.

Because for the ten thousandth time something far stronger can be made for the same price. Those d300/500s don't even do 10 bit which makes them useless as workstation cards and honestly a 4 core xeon is not as good as modern i7s due to the fact that the huge increase in clock speeds make up for the smaller cache. Ecc ram is not going to help as much as you might think with the applications that most are going to run with this anyways. Might as well just use a normal desktop...

Worst workstation I've ever seen.

>>43193751
Still can.

>>43193748
>you should buy two separate devices instead of just one

I see you're back to your old tricks, Mr. Jew.


>>43193760
No need to run anything into the ground.

>better GPUs come out
>buy better GPU
>open laptop
>take out old GPU
>put in new GPU
>sell old GPU

It's pretty easy.

>>43193605
FFS Inb4 some idiot with too much money build a battlestation full of these trash cans. It's da futare.

>>43193802
Calling everyone you disagree with a jew isn't going to get you very far

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>>43193811
>Building a battlestation made entirely out of a cluster of routers
It's idiotic, but at least it'd be creative.

gr8 b8 m8 i r8 it 8/8

>>43192689
>gtx760
>laptops better than this and cheaper

For fuck sakes

>>43193841
is that a leaked image of the revolutionary new mac pro 2? haha

>>43192456
its not a trashcan
its a trash incinerator

>>43193824
My apologies.

Henceforth, I shall use "anonymous person who suggests I spend more money by purchasing multiple computers" instead.

>>43193802
Gaming gpus are about as strong as the equivalent desktop card from 2 series ago.

>So why haven't you wasted your money on a computer that costs as much as a decent used car or a potentially useful investment?

Probably because anyone who really needs that power has access to a mainframe owned by their employer or university, and anyone who wants and can actually use a mainframe at home will build/buy something more specialized and more powerful for its purpose themselves instead of a souped up general purpose workstation shoved into a trashcan with little room for extensibility.

>>43193887
If you weren't a moron you'd see the benefits. A laptop should be made with portability, not power in mind. Desktops are what the powerful work should be done on. If you actually use that mind you've been ignoring the existence of, you'd understand it.

>>43193738
>EY THAR MISTER GOOLDBERG, YOUS TRYIN TO TAKE M' MONEY
>DAT DEER COMBANASHUN WORKSTATION LEPTOP BE A DOLR CHEEPER DAN DAT NETBOOK AN SAP-ARE-ATE WERK STASHUN
>NICE TRY YA FUCKIN JEW I GOT JESUS ON MAH SIDE
>Sir, I am only insisting that you could have better battery life and stand to lose less money if your portable computer were damaged or lost if you bought a cheaper, lighter laptop, and that you would still have access to a powerful computer if you bought a powerful desktop. It's only rational.
>NICE TRY YA FUCKIN JEW BUT I AINT SPENDIN NO MONEY
>Sir, I am Christian. You are wearing a skullcap.
>WELL SHEE-IT. MAZEL TOV GOY. YOU AINT EVER GETTIN MUH SHEKELS!

>>43193738
It's pathetic that you think your weak argument can be validated with some random bullshit about jews.

It's like walking into a black neighboorhood and expecting everyone to agree with you if you end every sentence with "fuck those cracka pigs" and "thats cracka talk".

>>43193884
It actually is a trashcan, comes with built in trash.

>calling it a trash can
>calling it expensive
>mocking it

no real response to it......

>>43194055
>make a post like half the thread doesn't exist
>because you have no real response to it

Arguing with applefags amirite?

>>43194055
see
>>43193773

>>43194055

Read the thread.

>>43193850
gtx 760 =/= gtx 760m

>>43193899
Depends on the gaming GPU. The GTX 880M in my laptop is around a GTX 760 in terms of performance.

Two generations ago for Nvidia would be the 500 series, so you'd have to go with the GTX 590 to surpass that.

I don't think the desktop 8000 series was ever released by AMD, so you'd have to go back to the 6990 to surpass it.

In either case, you have to used multiple desktop GPUs from two generations ago to equal or surpass the single mobile GPU I have.


>>43193929
My laptop happens to be portable as well as having power, so I get the benefits of both within a single device.


>>43193956
>this fictional conversation proves something

>>43194027
>implying I'm the one who brought up the Jew factor

>>43194194
>benefits of both
No you don't. Your laptop would be more portable both in size and battery life if you weren't trying to use it as a desktop.

>>43193673
>buying a $300 netbook and then spending the money you would have spent on a non-shit, non-poorfag computer on anime figurines is a great investment

What's with apples obsession with aluminum. It's terrible for heat dissipation to the point where the meme of cooking a fucking egg on your computer exists.

>>43193773
yeah but can you run the worlds most advanced operating system on it? No youre just gonna micspam in tf2 on ultra settings

>>43192836

You could build a 1k hackintosh and still blow it the fuck out

>>43194238
Thermal conductivity wise, aluminium is the next best thing to copper.

I just have to post this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ROQ0KK-_Tg
>people donated for this

>>43192428
Damn, I wanna deposit a knobbly doo-doo log into that

ITT A LOT OF BROKE ASS MOTHERFUCKERS THAT CANT AFFORD SOMETHING THEY DONT KNOW WTF THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT

>>43194238
>what is dell's obession with plastic?

>>43194276
No you couldn't. The Mac Pro is actually cheaper than other prebuilt workstations and building it yourself.

>>43194321
My Dell laptop is aluminium.

>>43194238

It's not the aluminum so much as it is the lack of fans.

>unibody

>>43194321
A fair question

>>43194216
>$300
>netbook

I seriously hope your parents don't trust you with their credit card.

>>43194205
>you don't get benefits from having a laptop that's portable, because other laptops can be smaller or have greater battery life

My laptop has better battery life at a smaller size than a desktop of equivalent performance would, yet it has better performance than a smaller laptop with better battery life would; therefore I get the benefits of having a decent amount of power while also having a decent degree of portability.

Sure, "decent" wouldn't do if I said I needed "the most powerful computer I can get" and "the smallest laptop with the best battery life". But since I said "I need a decently powerful computer and I also need a laptop", it's the best option.

>>43194316
Sheee-it, nigga, my HP Z820 detroys this nigger technology

>>43194443
destroys*
I really meant "whips" lol

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>>43194443
>Doesn't know what a HP Z820 is
>google it
>MFW he's right

Why did they design it like that? What the fuck were they thinking?

>>43194503
Apple ran out of '50s, '60s and '70s-era Braun designs to copy

From an engineering and design perspective I think it's pretty damn cool and I can't wait for normal companies to copy them so I can make my own. The cooling system is pretty neat.
However:
>Apple
>proprietary everything
>pseudo upgradeable
>last year's generation specs
>buckets 'o shekels

I hope someone else can steal the idea and improve it for me. I've been working on some CAD designs to that end for fun, but I have no facilities to make anything, plus I'd have to design my own mobo and heatsink since oem stuff will never fit.

>>43194628
>Apple
This isn't a bad thing
>proprietary everything
Except for the RAM and CPU
>last gen specs
Keep telling yourself that
>buckets 'o sheckels
For hardware worth the monies.

Is this some sort of security case designed to look like a trash can so hat thieves wont steal your computer?

Now I just really want a trash can that has a built-in high power incinerator. Off to /diy/

>>43194267
obvious troll.

>>43194823
lel This is going to end so violently.

>>43194686
The specs aren't really all that great. The hardware is lacking for a solid workstation. A w7000 crushes the "workstation" cards they used. And the e3 they use is nothing to write home about.

>>43194328
The Mac Pro is certainly not cheaper than building it yourself.

>>43193080
what browser/skin pl0x

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>>43194443
>>43194499
Puny Apple niggerdom next to a real workstation (HP Z820). Ignore the bathroom scale; it's for weighing the huge shit the HP's about to take on the "Pro"

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>>43194499
>>43195527
>512gb ram

>>43192810
Raw calculations and performance are completely different.

Just because a GPU is worse in raw computing doesn't make it a worse card.
>workstation graphics
>dual GPU setup

>>43193013
Video editing
>not for enhancing viewports in 3d

>>43196145
>>43196145
Is this thing even real? I thought DDR3 could only go up to 8GB. If this is for realz, we have a supercomputer for the price of a used car.

>>43192428
because unlike you delusional cunts, I don't need a "WERKSTASHUN" computer running proprietary software to design hip Portland style logos.

If I need CPU power to build projects faster, there is a supercomputer i can remote into.

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>>43192469
it's an anal stretcher

>>43196226
>I thought DDR3 could only go up to 8GB
For what godforsaken reason would your addled monkey-brain think that? The DDR3 specification is related to bus width and doesn't put a hard limit on the amount of volatile storage you can have.

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>>43196226

It is real. The z820 has 16 (SIXTEEN) RAM slots. Equip a 32gb stick in each and you get a grand total of 512gb of ram.

>>43193292
>implying adobe sRGB is good for anything but photo

>>43196295
I meant that I thought that DDR3 memory with had a capacity over 8GB didn't even exist yet.
>>43196327
I read the specs and I thought it was absurd. Read the message I sent to the anon above.

>>43196334
just because most consumer displays can't reproduce it doesn't make it useless.

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>>43193031

The base board is circular.
The daughter boards aren't curved because that's a fucking retarded idea, and each has other boards such as SSD, RAM and IO board between them and the side of the enclosure.

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>>43193086

The 2013 Mac Pro is assembled in Austin, Texas.

>>43196226
>price of a used car
Lol, no. The maxed configuration costs as much as a Mercedes-Benz S-Class

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>>43196783
... from chinese and taiwan electronic parts

>>43192428


08 Mac Pro owner here with GTX 680 Mac Edition.

Used to build PCs, but I lost all patience with Windows and switched. This has been the finest machine I've ever owned and, despite the cost, has been worth every penny to me in the end. I never really fully appreciated OSX until I run bootcamp (Win 7) for my Steam games. Even though I only have it setup just to run games and firefox (for game cheats), Windows still has issues every now and then.

Now, having said that, even though I could buy the new Mac Pro tomorrow and it would only dent my savings a bit, I would NEVER buy this fucking thing.

Take my advice, get the fastest Mac Mini you can afford, get 3rd part memory and max it out, and either build your own PC for games or buy one all ready assembled. For about $1000, you can have the best of both worlds. PC for Steam games, OSX for everything else

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>>43195527
It's also massive in all dimensions and weighs more than HP's 2U servers.

>>43197959

Americans suck at manufacturing.

>>43198454
Forgive my ignorance, but relatively speaking, has weight ever been an issue with servers?
Anything above 20kg technically needs to handled by two people, anyway.

>>43198454
>weight
MacPro:Z820 = Pikachu:Raichu

>>43198585
No it usually doesn't matter. I just find it intriguing that a maxed out DL380 weighs slightly less at 26kg than a typical Z820; nothing profound behind it.

>>43198662
Thanks, I know fuck all about them so I couldn't figure out why it was noteworthy.

Anyone have a document detailing the advantages of a cylindrical shape for airflow?

>>43192547
Really? You probably should have bought a $1000 one.

What is the Hackintosh equivalent of this bitch?