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I'm installing OSX on my X41 Tablet

And there's nothing you can do to stop me
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>>43051779

>do that with a tablet
>keyboard just detaches
>both parts are still in good condition except for maybe a scratch or two

There.
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X200s reporting in.
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IT'S FINALLY HERE
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>>43052263
What's up with that apple logo on your HDD?
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>>43052281
Pulled it out of a 17" MBP which I gave to my stepbro.
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>>43052278
Good packaging
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Really good packaging....
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Oh sweet, it's that new screen I ordered for the x200, this one will look much better.
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>>43052382
That some AFFS I see?
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>>43052395
I believe it is...
My x200 was LED, so this is a downgrade to CCFL, I had to buy a new inverter and cable to make it fit.
If your x200 is CCFL it's a direct drop in.

Total cost was 40 dollars for the screen and extra parts.
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>>43052427
Replacing the chassis and screen at the same time, chassis was cracked.
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Good price to sell my X200t?
I really want to get some atom tablet instead of this shit
I'm in the europes
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Wow, what a beautiful screen, this is the best upgrade to the x200 since the SSD, glossy master race, the colors, the contrast, the viewing angles.
Amazing, it's like a new laptop.
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>>43052461
>furry

post hidden.
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>>43052461

>furry cancer

Kill yourself you fucking faggot
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>>43052263
Hey what movie/show/game is that on your screen?
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Is there anything decent I can do with the expansion slots on a X200?
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>>43052554
Stick penis in

Make love to RMS operating system
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>>43052531
It's just a wallpaper.
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>>43052562
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>>43052496
>>43052512
refer to
>>43052575
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>>43052585
Just fuck off.
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>>43052575
Oh nice, thanks.
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Yeah, I am wondering if there are any X-series with FHD screens upgradeable or not. Best I can find is the T and W series 520s with FHD.
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>>43052554
wait
when did lenovo switch the lid logos around
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>>43052743
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>>43052780
Part of the effort to pander to macfag reviewers
>look at me everyone I'm using a ThinkPad

>>43052773
There have been efforts to put a third party 1920x1080 panel into the X220. Not sure how that's progressing. But officially, there's no non chiclet X series machines with resolution higher than 1400x1050 or 1440x900
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>>43051702
Very kawaii
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>>43052780
Another reason to hate the *40 series.
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There is a ThinkPad being sold on craigslist for $200 but it doesn't have the model number or specs. I emailed the guy last night and am awaiting a response. It looks like a T440 if it is should I go for it?
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I want to put a new screen in my thinkpad x201. any recommendation s on going about this?
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>>43054249
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>>43052427
same procedure.
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>>43052461
>>43052743
>have Thinkpad
>using Windows on it
Not that it's any of my business, but any particular reason? I know they're shipped with it and all but it doesn't work terribly well with them. You have to install many Lenovo software packages just to have basic stuff like touchpad scrolling. And two-finger scrolling doesn't seem to be possible at all (that was actually the dealbreaker for me).

Intel's Windows GPU drivers are pretty bad too... I guess maybe you have a model with dedicated/switchable GPU and you want to play some games that are too fiddly in WINE? Or something. Just kinda scratching my head here, it seems like an uphill battle for little gain.
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>>43054604
This post... 9/11 for effort, really.
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>>43052461
What SSD do you use in your x200? I've read about compatibility issues with some of the Samsungs, but my HDD just died and it's time to upgrade.
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>>43054647
Mushkin Chronos Deluxe 240gb, it works great, makes the laptop feel like a modern machine with very little lag, any folder or file you open, it opens instantly.
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>>43054618
? I'm not trolling, I seriously don't get it. I know some categories of professional software tend to be Windows+OSX only, but are you editing feature films/designing nuclear centrifuges/etc on your laptop?
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>>43054712
There is no touchpad, it's only got a trackpoint.

Linux battery life is terible.

It has an on-board GPU, no dedicated card or anything, it's not for fucking gaming, it's an ultraportable business laptop.

The laptop was designed with windows in mind, not linux.
You're deluding yourself if you think otherwise.

It's not the year of the linux desktop, go back to jacking off to anime.
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>>43054604
Is there something that I can't do with cygwin?
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>>43052263
This faggot on your screen is bullshit. They never worn wings in a battle it's a myth.
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>>43054748
>There is no touchpad, it's only got a trackpoint.
Mkay. When you hold the middle mouse button and move the pointer, does that scroll in Windows? It didn't when I tried.
>Linux battery life is terible.
It seems about the same as Windows (when I still had a win7 partition). I did install TLP, maybe that's the trick?
>It has an on-board GPU, no dedicated card or anything, it's not for fucking gaming
That's what I was saying- Intel integrated drivers are pretty bad on Windows compared to mesa.
>The laptop was designed with windows in mind, not linux.
I know but ah... while I love the hardware, Lenovo's software suite is pretty bad.

>>43054751
Package manager is the big one for me. I always feel reluctant to install things on Windows because I know that if I don't like it, removing it will still leave traces everywhere.

Also I just find the system is generally snappier, more reliable, less likely to make terrible paging decisions and leave me drumming my fingers when I switch to an old Chrome tab, less likely to have annoying issues like the touchpad one I mentioned.
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>>43054909
It should scroll windows - I suspect you haven't downloaded and installed all the drivers from Lenovo, that tends to catch the little things that the basic windows install doesn't catch.
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>>43054712
There is no touchpad, it's only got a trackpoint.

Linux battery life is terible.

It has an on-board GPU, no dedicated card or anything, it's not for fucking gaming, it's an ultraportable business laptop.

The laptop was designed with windows in mind, not linux.
You're deluding yourself if you think otherwise.

It's not the year of the linux desktop, go back to jacking off to anime.>>43054909
>>Mkay. When you hold the middle mouse button and move the pointer, does that scroll in Windows? It didn't when I tried.
Yes, it does, when you install track point drivers.

>It seems about the same as Windows (when I still had a win7 partition). I did install TLP, maybe that's the trick?

So you need to install some program to make battery life better?
It's already better than linux stock.

>That's what I was saying- Intel integrated drivers are pretty bad on Windows compared to mesa.

>intel drivers are bad
>drivers made by intel, for computers that run windows, on a laptop designed to run windows, are bad

>I know but ah... while I love the hardware, Lenovo's software suite is pretty bad.
Then don't install it?
You don't need to install it.

When you have to install drivers on windows, it's a pain, but apparently installing a bunch of drivers and power management software to get it to run decent isn't?

Installing updates and drivers in windows is as easy as clicking a file and clicking next, apparently that's the issue though isn't it, it's too easy.
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>>43054977
Ugh why did it copy the entire post.
Fuck you zixaphir.
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I can find only a few old vague forum posts about this, so, Hackintosh question time:
* Can I install OSX (Yosemite would be awesome but probably asking too much) on a T400 with Intel graphics and Intel wifi?
* Alongside existing OS(es) without needing to wipe?
* If no to the first, can I install it in VirtualBox on this hardware and get hardware acceleration?
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>>43054977
>Yes, it does, when you install track point drivers.
Well I did install a bunch of stuff from Lenevo's website, I guess still not enough.

>So you need to install some program to make battery life better?
>It's already better than linux stock.
I don't know actually, I haven't tested it both ways. Might be fine without TLP, might not.

>drivers made by intel, for computers that run windows, on a laptop designed to run windows, are bad
OpenGL is bad at least, yes. DXVA works well, I'll give them that.

>Then don't install it?
>You don't need to install it.
I do, if I want the hardware to work.

>apparently installing a bunch of drivers and power management software to get it to run decent isn't?
I didn't need to install any drivers at all on Mint. I installed TLP by pasting a few lines from a website, and I don't actually know whether it was necessary anyway.

>Installing updates and drivers in windows is as easy as clicking a file and clicking next, apparently that's the issue though isn't it, it's too easy.

Are you in opposite land? It took literally hours of downloading and installing stuff for Win7 to stop showing exclamation marks. Meanwhile Mint was justwerks. Seriously, with the possible exception of TLP, I didn't need to install or configure anything.

Windows needed several long reset cycles to apply updates, some of which failed and had to be retried. Linux just did all of them live and everything took effect either immediately or at next boot (which takes no longer than any other boot).
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>>43052278
Shut the fuck up tripfag, no one cares
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>T61p
>15.4" screen (unknown resolution)
>C2D @ 2.4
>4GB ram
>320GB hdd
>$170
Should I buy this thinkpad, /g/? I already have a laptop, a 1366x768 i3 thing, but it's falling apart and I want something rugged.
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Again, T61p with fx 570, 1920x1200 resolution 80gb ssd and a battery that lasts 2 hours.

Worth 160 euros?
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>>43055115
>Well I did install a bunch of stuff from Lenevo's website, I guess still not enough.
>i installed the wrong drivers and it didn't work right, therefor it's shit
That's rich coming from a person who is touting linux, you should be used to searching around for hours on end to find drivers to make your hardware work correctly.

>I don't know actually, I haven't tested it both ways. Might be fine without TLP, might not.

It's not, I've tested it.

>I do, if I want the hardware to work.

The hardware works fine, it's just missing software features like the middle click scroll, which you had a hard time finding for some reason.

>I didn't need to install any drivers at all on Mint.
So your middle click scroll works out of the box?
Your battery life is good out of the box?

>Windows needed several long reset cycles to apply updates, some of which failed and had to be retried. Linux just did all of them live and everything took effect either immediately or at next boot (which takes no longer than any other boot).

I'd rather have window handle updates for me than having to search around and individually install updates with a pain in the ass command line, it's a small price to pay for all the time and work saved.

Admit it, linux is not practical for a laptop, or even most desktop installations.
What do you do on linux that you can't do on windows?
>inb4 some LEET HACKER SHIT and rice the desktop

>>43055127
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>>43055257
>That's rich coming from a person who is touting linux, you should be used to searching around for hours on end to find drivers to make your hardware work correctly.
I literally have never had to do that
>It's not, I've tested it.
Ah well, I installed it by pasting 5 lines.
>The hardware works fine, it's just missing software features like the middle click scroll, which you had a hard time finding for some reason.
I consider that an important feature. Another one is two-finger scroll. Linux: Google it, copy-paste the command and press enter, done. Windows: You can't, deal with it.
>So your middle click scroll works out of the box?
Yep
>Your battery life is good out of the box?
Like I said, I installed TLP because someone suggested it. I'd have to test. Anyway, it took 30 seconds.
>I'd rather have window handle updates for me than having to search around and individually install updates with a pain in the ass command line, it's a small price to pay for all the time and work saved.
Okay, now I know for a fact you haven't used Linux except maybe a quick liveCD test. The opposite is true. Everything is updated together. When you get told that x updates are available and press install, it updates not just the system but ALL your software, at the same time. You never have to hunt down updates manually, ever. You never need to reboot. Sometimes a couple of updates don't take effect until you do, but it doesn't nag you and the reboot is just a normal one. This is the #1 reason I use Linux.
>Admit it, linux is not practical for a laptop, or even most desktop installations.
Given that I've refuted your points above, I have to disagree.
>What do you do on linux that you can't do on windows?
Mostly, I enjoy a stable fast system that does everything I would do on Windows but works out of the box and doesn't drive me up the fucking wall with constant updates and shit.
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>>43054604
What
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>>43055006
baump
is this feasible
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>>43055257
Every time someone posts a mediocre drawing of their fursona I get reminded why i regret buying a tablet PC
How do I gain confidence in myself based wat
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>>43055480
To repeat myself: I don't understand why someone (especially someone who frequents /g/) would buy a Thinkpad and then run Windows on it as their main OS. It just seems like a strange thing to do.
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>>43051702
wtf? Why do you have little girl panties? I thought the /g/ being pedo was a joke...
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T400 "eh, it's good enough" tier here.

There is absolutely nothing remarkable about this laptop whatsoever, but it works well enough.

I have Linux on it, but I'm thinking of installing windows because I'm sick of some of its bullshit.
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>>43052278
>snapchat-xxxx.jpg
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>>43055641
What bullshit? I can possibly help.
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>>43051761

Fuck its weird to see young kids like that with laptops in school.
It really tickes that urge to say something that starts with "back in my day...", and I'm only 26.
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>>43055641
>There is absolutely nothing remarkable about this laptop whatsoever, but it works well enough.
That's Thinkpads in general.
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>>43054112
>T440
it's trash
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>>43055698
They're teenagers and they're not even at school.
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>>43055152
only if it's post august of the model year, otherwise you are asking for GPU problems
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>>43055529
It's been a while since the old crowd would post their X series tablets and scribble up some things. It's funny how time flies.

>>43055546
For workstations, especially CAD use, it just werks. For the tablets, it's more fun to dick around with (although for pen use, somethingsomethingrandomdistro + krita is an emerging solution). For everything else, it's just that few shits are given and one is too normalfag.
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>>43055751
not him but
>CAD workstations
>laptops
Why?
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Will Lenovo manage to unfuck in the 50 series? I really want a new Thinkpad but the 40 series is just awful.
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>>43055799
Well, it's what the W series (and the old p suffix, p for powerful) is marketed for, along with Dell and HP's equivalents. Quadro, decent panel, quad core and all.

>>43055809
It's not unreasonable to expect things to get worse. Everyone doubted the chiclet plague of the E line infecting the T/X/W line but that happened. Everyone doubted the 1 button trackpad and integrated trackpoint buttons of the Helix infecting the main line...or the default to media keys of the E series fucking every other line.
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>>43055675
>not using snapchat to take pics so you don't have to resize them afterward
Pleb spotted.
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latitude mustardrace

:3
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>>43055678
I've been using Linux for about 3 years now, and I'm competent enough at it to get things to work. I'm just sick of jumping through hoops and installing obscure software to deal with shit.
For example:
- Compatibility with other devices and formats is shoddy at best, and I find myself having to put way more effort in than I should have to when it comes to proper file transfer
- Lack of proprietary software like Photoshop and MS Office is a massive annoyance. GIMP is a decent alternative but they really need to get their heads out of their asses and not have export/save as separate. It's a relatively minor nitpick but it's a pain in the ass, especially considering how easy it is with photoshop. Also, having to make sure things convert properly between Writer to Word and Impress to Powerpoint etc. is a pain.
- Battery life is rubbish with Linux
- Having to rely on WINE for basic shit is all kinds of crap
Now, I know all of these are common complaints. You've probably heard them a good bit before me, and to be completely honest, every OS has its bullshit about it (once I learned how to make it less bullshitty, Snow Leopard was probably the closest OS I found to perfection back when I had a macbook, but OS X got worse after every single fucking update and I fucked up and screwed up the computer) but I think I might want to give making Windows manageable a shot. I've pulled it off with Mac OS and Linux to a certain extent, I'm sure Windows can't be too hard.
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Are there some sleek thinkpads who don't look like old junk?
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>>43055855
>supporting non-free privacy-raping software
NSA cockgobbler spotted.
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>>43055898
>Are there some sleek thinkpads who don't look like old junk?
W series
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>>43055903
>being a mindless FSdrone
You're just as bad, you remind me of the trashy bums the union people hire to picket productive businesses that don't conform to unions.

I bet you'd fit right in with them.
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>>43054834
SHUT UP
POLAND STRONK
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>>43055865
Latitudes are great, but they aren't as cute as thinkpads
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What 2.5''x7mm 1tb HDD 7200rpm does /g/ use on their X220's and such? I can't find any that isn't expensive as tits.
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>>43055960

my e4300 begs to differ!
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>>43055993
That does look better than most thinkpads.
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>>43052554
>babby web books
>meme stickers
>pokemon

Disgusting
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>>43055993
Now that's a beauty, if only it didn't have trackpad it would be absolutely perfect.
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>furry
>wintard
>tripfag
Can you possibly be a worse human being?
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What are your thoughts on the T440?
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>>43056062
black midget
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>>43055641
Not a thinkpad fanboy but I must say, it's quite quiet.
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>>43055993
I like 43xx series, not as sturdy as thinkpads but ports layout is great
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>>43051804
Well no shit.

But if you did it again without the keyboard, the tablet would be even more fragile.
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>>43055748
How do I find that out? Seller has no idea, but the serial numbers are all pristine.
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my favorite thinkpad so far is the A31, boots faster than any of my desktops
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>>43052263
why do u have the keyboard removed?
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>>43052427
could this work for a x201? if yes could you post the parts where u got them from? name of them etc
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>>43056349
Cable FRU: 44C9909
CCFL Inverter FRU: 42W8010
Screen is a HV121WX4-110, there are different models, some matte, some glossy, some with digitizers and some without.

The screen I specified is a matte with digitizer, but when you remove the digitizer it's a glossy panel underneath.

Another note on that, you can buy the models that have digitizers and remove them with a razor blade, just be careful not to scratch the screen when doing so, the one I used has the digitizer, just carefully remove it or buy one without one.

I picked with one because it was a smoking deal on it and removing the thing is a piece of cake, here's a pic of the bare panel after cutting the glass touch panel off.
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>>43056349
Oh, and you should be able to find all the parts you need on ebay.
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Is virtualbox on a Linux T400 host likely to run OSX with hardware acceleration? Or would I be wasting my time trying?
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>>43051804
Too bad you cant do anything on a tablet but ANGRY BURDZ and FACBUUK
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>>43056187
Just ask for a picture of the bottom.
If there's a sticker of 08/08 or later. I forgot the format but production didn't go into 2009 so there's that.
Though some are mm/yyyy but that should be obvious.
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>>43054748
My x201 works better with linux then windows my temps are at 68C at windows while on 4chan on linux its at 44C and I get about the same battery life on both
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Needs moar W-series
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>>43056530
Thank you.
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>>43056720
looks exactly like the T series bruh
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Should I get an x201 or x201t? Performance differences?
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>>43056748
But has a better dedicated GPU.
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>>43056755
Depends on configuration

The standard X201 just had standard voltage processors
The X201t had either standard voltage, low voltage or ultra low voltage processors. Performance of course runs accordingly. The question is of how importantly you regard it.
Otherwise, the X201 does have a larger available battery at 9 cells/84Wh vs 8 cells/66Wh for the X201t
So toss a coin
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>>43056755
x201t is cool for the digitizer, if you think you'll use the digitizer a lot then get it, If you don't think you'll use the digitizer just get the x201.
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>>43052278
whats in the 'big' box, I'm not even sure if an X-series can even fit in those ones.

>>43056748
Well the W-series was the sucessor to the 'p' series with the exception of the W700
>tfw there will never be a shitty made T-series of the W700 and it had integrated graphics and a single core CPU.

Also I've seen a few Dell M4800's with the K2100M GPU and QHD+ display for $1700, is that gud? not sure if I want to get the W540
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Thinkcentre line of desktops is also considered cool by /g/?
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Daily post reminding you not to get a T540. Horrible mouse pad.
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>>43057191
>whats in the 'big' box
DT770s, they both came at once.
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I found a T410 on craigslist for $250 and I think a T440 for $200 which is the better buy and why?
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>>43057413
>a T440 for $200
That can't possibly be right
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>>43057413
>is this 4 year old machine worth more than this brand new one?
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>>43057366
do you mean touchpad
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>>43057469
I'm guessing dead as shit. You?
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I got a x201 and I'm thinking about dual-booting windows and linux. I have a 160gb HDD. I just want to use linux for mainly learning how to use UNIX and programming. How many GB should I give the linux partition?
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Which modern ThinkPad is worth looking at? I need something relatively small. Mostly for class, notes, PDFs, HD video.
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>>43057628
>>43057469
The post says it's priced to sell but I was thinking the same things.
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>>43057695
>modern
lol no

The Thinkpad died after the 60/61 series and was buried after the 220/420/520 series
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>>43056481
You're a dumbass. You can get x86_64 architecture tablets to do whatever computing you want to do.

Even an ARM tablet would fit your needs, since all you probably do is shitpost.
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>>43057695
The hell do you mean by "modern"?
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>>43055993
Doesn't that have an arm processor?
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>>43057631
30.
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>>43057824
It has a intel celeron sticker on the laptop in the picture. Are you retarded?
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>>43057850
My bad, i didn't really look at the picture. I only asked because i found this link in another thread

http://www.arm.com/markets/mobile/dell-e4300-latitude-laptop.php
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What websites can I use to find good deals on ThinkPads?
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I found a good deal on an Core Duo X60. Would this still be good for writing, programming, web browsing and watching videos with Debian Xfce installed?
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>>43057980
Ebay and craiglist style websites
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>>43058032
How much is it sold for?
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>>43058078
About $105.
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>>43057807

Something more recent.
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>>43058092
Any information on the specs?
I once had a computer with similar hardware and it had problems on some 720p videos, otherwise I think you should be able to use it for what you want to
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>>43058092
That's a bit pricey though....
I just got an X61, 2gb ram 320gb hd, dock and charger/8cell for 80 bucks.
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>>43058104
The hell constitutes as "recent"?

You're being subjective as hell
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>>43056481

>get any tablet that isn't an Android tablet
>have the same thing as a laptop, just far more portable and with touch input
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>>43054748
>Linux battery life is terrible

That's GNU/Linux to you, and anyway, use a proper distro with laptop_mode and power top. I would get more battery life than even OSX when I had the god-awful MBA
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>>43058271
For ThinkPads, TLP is superior to laptopmodetools and powertop
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Cheapest W540 I can find is $1100. I definitely want a W series since portability isn't a factor for me, really. Is there something else from the W series that's more affordable? Only other things I can find are a T430s. R32, and a R51.
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>>43058375

>wanting a Thinkpad
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I'm sure this gets asked every few weeks but it there a proper screen upgrade for the T420 yet? Something with at least some decent colors would be neat. I know about the panels from that one Alienware laptop but something better would be golden.

Also, anyone here who uses a 45W CPU in his T420? I'm quite interested to give it a try but wonder if it can even cool it properly.
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>Purchase a T410 on ebay last friday
>I'm supposed to get it tomorrow
>ebay says it hasn't even shipped yet

Goddammit, if I knew this was gonna happen I would have paid another $15 for 3 day shipping.
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>>43058214
Yeah, the cheapest X61 with a charger and HDD that I found on eBay (buy it now) was $140. I'm not having much luck at the moment. I may get it anyway since I would much rather have an X61 over an X60.
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>>43057389
Ah, nice

>>43057740
Its probably stolen... Or you gonna get stabbed

>>43058375
Sounds pretty gud IMO...
An anon had a W530 I believe that slid from his car and still works
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t410s faggot here, i just cleaned out the fan again, and yesterday i reapplied the thermal paste; however the motherboard, gpu and cpu all hit 90c or higher when idling, and the laptop keeps turning off from hitting too high of temps.
what do?
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>>43059179

Get a good notebook.
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>>43059243
too late :^)
is there any way at all i can make this run any cooler though? I got it really cheap so it would be nice if i can use it; mostly because i cant afford anything better right now.
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>>43054604
another paragraph and you'd have a decent pasta
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>>43059278

Put it in an ice bath.

And then get a good notebook.
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>>43059287
the ice just melts ;__;
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>>43059296

Dry ice
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>>43059308
the ice just melts ;__;
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So I was looking to upgrade my old X201 and decided to go to my local computer shop to try out the updated Thinkpads. Aside from a couple issues with the new keyboard -- i.e. F-key placement not grouped -- the keys themselves felt fantastic. Not better than my past Thinkpads but pretty much felt the same. The bodies on the models I tried seemed sturdy and well built, barring the X1 Carbon that had a flimsy feel. Real talk, do you find the new models that shitty? They seemed okay to me, and I've been contemplating buying an X240 or a T540p.
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>>43059327

Use even drier ice. Sprinkle salt on the ice, it gets out all the moisture
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>>43059336
im all out of ice.
any other options?
>inb4 get a good notebook
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Found this photo of my good old W520 in action.
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>>43059418

Play pic related on your laptop
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Tomorrow. t410. found in loft. never used. 150 English currency. hng.
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>>43059333
The 40 series also has problems like the RAM being soldered to the motherboard
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>>43055572
Autism is no joke. No really, don't even try to tell a joke to an autistic person.
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>>43057695
Anything that doesn't have a one click trackpad should be fine.
Seriously. I bought an E series Thinkpad, and the keyboard and everything else is fine, but the fucking trackpad is just awful. It's the biggest piece of shit I've ever seen in my entire life. To be fair, I did expect it to be shit, but my point still stands.
If you need a small laptop, get an x series. They're breddy gud. I like thr x200t the best, personally.
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>>43059333
why would u want to upgrade ur x201? what do you use it for because i am pretty sure that its pretty decent the specs for today's use
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Just won an auction for a T420, i5, 8GB ram, 320GB HDD, and 1600x900 resolution, in B condition for $286 with shipping included. It's an off-lease company laptop. How'd I do?
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>>43061273

>implying that's winning
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>>43061273
Is it bios-locked?
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How good is the T440s
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>>43061862
it's trash. it uses a single button trackpad (think macbook) that is flimsy as fuck and cheaply built, it physically wobbles when you use it
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>>43061273
that's p good

got my T420, i5-2520m, 4gb RAM, 320gb HDD, 1366x768 for $250 off of craigslist back in like October.
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>>43061916
Which ThinkPad would you recommend for me. I'm starting my freshman year of college and will be using it for internet and microsoft office.
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>>43061925
Have you had any problems with the fans? I've read they tend to fail and the laptop overheats.
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>>43061959
no, the only problem I have that's similar to that is - the docking station really impedes airflow around the vents so the temps are nearly 10C hotter while on the docking station.
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im going to china in september. How cheap are thinkpads there compared to 2nd hand ones i can get in the UK?
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How exactly do company 'leases' on computers work?
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>>43062161
It's more along the lines of "we buy new hardware every 2 years (or however their quarters work)" So then they do.
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>>43062161
Ah, schools do it too. Just saying.

Even my ghetto ass community college has a bunch of HP workstations that are pretty new. Ivy Bridge i7's and 24" 1920x1200 monitors.

Kind of want to know what they're going to do with those desktops and monitors when they decide to refresh...
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When does the alleged "good" era of ThinkPads end (when the chiclet keyboards and lower-quality builds are used)? Was it the first or second-gen Core i ThinkPads? I was thinking of getting an X200s for college but I still want it to have the signature build quality I keep hearing about.
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>>43062354
>When does the alleged "good" era of ThinkPads end
when newer thinkpads leak onto the used market and become cheap.
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>>43062226
My school has a ton of X201 and X201t, and I have a hunch they're going to unload them soon.

I'm wondering if there's any strings I can pull to get some of them for myself.

I'm a student here, but I have no idea how the system works.
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>>43059418
bend yo heatsink nigga, or use some coppa shims
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Is this a good deal? Just going to use it for surfing the web in bed and youtube. http://www.kijiji.ca/v-laptops/edmonton/lenovo-thinkpad-laptop-15-lcd-with-hdmi/1004530671?enableSearchNavigationFlag=true
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>>43062756
not really, Core 2 Duo machines should be under $100
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>>43051761
>/g/ meetup
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hey guys i bought a T43 without a hard drive, but upon googling it seems a lot of people have "2010" errors where the bios doesn't like aftermarket drives.

my questions:

from what it looks like, the bios just says "this drive might not work" when booting, and you can just skip the message and it will work fine. is this correct?

if this isn't correct, could i just get a hard drive caddy for the optical drive and use that as my main hdd without any issues?
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I'm looking for a small Thinkpad to buy, I have a T400 and a base 2011 MBA. The Thinkpad was great to use, but it was really bulky and not great to carry around in my bag at uni. I pretty much switch to using the MBA almost exclusively since it was thin, light, fast, and had miniDP so I could watch chinese cartoons on my TV.

However, since it's the base Air, it only has a 64GB SSD which is nothing. At least with a Thinkpad I could swap out the HDD and RAM as I see fit.

Would an X220 be similar to the Air in lightness and portability? That's my strongest candidate right now for a new laptop that has expandable storage and memory. Oh, and I can get an IPS panel with it too, since the Air's display is absolutely terrible.
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>>43063518
the x220 is about a pound heavier than your MBA, but a pound lighter than your T400. it's your call.
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>>43063034
Is it because the T43 uses IDE rather than SATA? Pretty old.

>>43063518
You could just google the specs and compare them... X220 is slightly heavier and thicker, but about the same size foot print.

But yeah, you can swap out the hard drive + get an mSATA SSD, RAM is upgradeable up to 16gb. Also has a docking port.

>2011 MBA
>fast
If you consider it fast, just wait until you get to use a non-ULV CPU...
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>>43063712
it's PATA. i got it for $15 but i want to put a small SSD in it, that's why i thought the ultrabay caddy would be a good idea.
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>>43063757
>>43063034
answered my own question by reading the thinkpad wiki. posting the answer here for anyone that might want to know.
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>>43051778
>installing an OS that has absolutely no support for touch
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>>43051702
explain that picture
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>>43063980
no
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>>43062354
X60/X61 and T60/61 were the last 4:3 aspect ratio Thinkpads.

X201 and T400/500 were the last 16:10 aspect ratio Thinkpads.

X220 and T420/520 were the last Thinkpads with Thinkpad keyboards.
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I have a T42 and a G40. I thought the T42 was broken but it's not, so I stopped using the G40. The G40 had a P4 @ 2.40 GHz and the T42 has a Pentium M @ 1.70 GHz. Some CPU benchmark website said the M was faster and I believed them.

I hardly care anyway, the G40 is in bad condition - no down arrow key (you can still press the contact and it works) and no Trackpoint nub. And the thing is humongous and heavy. The T42 is basically pristine.

I run casual babby mode Linux on them.

The G40 has Linux Mint 13 Xfce. I tried a number of OSs on the T42, like Puppy, Mint, and CentOS, but I settled on Lubuntu 14.04. It seems pretty fast - faster than Mint on my G40. I still have Firefox on the T42 but I also have NetSurf. I was very impressed with how fast NetSurf is. I wish it had Javascript support, but the memory usage is great. 512 MB is not much. Firefox chokes after a few tabs and has to use swap.

I would've tried CentOS but 6.x and 7.x don't support PAE forcing and CentOS 5.x doesn't have a kernel with the wifi drivers I need. Not worth the time to *maybe* come up with a fix. Lubuntu works immediately upon install.
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t410s homosexual from earlier, i went full retard and thought the giant ass wifi card on the mobo was the processor, the goddamn cpu had no thermal paste
jesus christ im retarded, it runs fine now.
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how much do you guys think I can get for my X230 tablet?
i5, 8gb RAM, 180gb SSD (Intel 520), multitouch display
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>>43065234
>giant ass wifi card on the mobo
i don't think that's what you think it is, but as long as everything is fine I guess.
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>>43065549
I would give you $500 for it.
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>>43066037
I paid $800 a little under a year ago. I'm not taking significantly less than that
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>>43066048
technology depreciates fast
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>>43066074
yeah, well, my job is to sell it to someone who doesn't know that
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Someone in the last thread was going to torrent some restore CD's, is that guy here tonight?
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>>43066037
>>43066074
www.ebay.com/itm/261536134259

hopefully someone offers 750-800 and feels like they're getting away with something
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>>43056530
08/08 is completely safe-- but the fix started rolling out in dips and drabs before that too. Machines as early as February could be safe.
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Mmm, friday night. Time to finish banging out the inverter page!
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>>43066498
i'll bang ur inverter
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>>43066519
that's... it?
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I'm loving my x220, although it does some weird thing where it won't detect the battery and some of the menus decide to lower their load speed. Weird.
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>>43066945

You must be lost, this is a thinkpad thread
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just got my t420 and its blazing hot as shit, any recommendations on a cooling pad?
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>>43066950
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>>43066945
>Linux

I think I found your problem
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>>43066962
Yeah, don't set it on top of blankets. This is a global problem among all laptops.
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>>43067007
T-thanks
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>>43067016
implying i ever set it on a blanket, i was playing hearthstone and shit shot up to 80 degrees.
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>>43067007

Simply epic

>>>/v/
>>>/b/
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>>43067029
So? It's made to go up to 100C. What is the idle temp?
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>>43067057
idle is 50C, i just dont want to buy some ricer shit tier cooling pad nor a non-ricer shit tier cooling pad, i heard that docks had fans on them. Is this true?
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>>43067083
Consider cleaning out the fan/vents. If that doesn't get you under 45C idle then re-do the thermal paste.

The docks do not have fans on them.
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>>43067083
>Docks have fans on them
lol
The advanced docks do, but they stopped making those, and those fans do not help cool the ThinkPad, they are just there for the dock's power supply
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>>43067048
Oh no, Linux could never do wrong!!! :^( It's the perfect operating system crafted by Lord RMS himself, all functions and software running on Linux is fool-proof to never have issues!

So much better than that POPRIETARY W*ndows garbage that's only good for two things, blue screens and not coming with drivers.

Am I right?
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>>43067162

Hella f*ckin epic /b/ro, you #rekt that loonux neckbeard, only true patricians like ourselves no the glory of windows, visual studios, and gaymen all day XD
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>>43067110
Alright, ill consider doing that, does /g/ have any recomendations on cooling pads though? ive checked the wiki and found nothing
>>43067115
Don't see why you had to post this
>>>/pol/
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>>43067162
>>43067192
You're both way too hostile.
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>>43067162
>>43067192
Stop please

>>43067209
I was answering >>43067083 in a snide manner
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>>43051702
ThinkPad 600X master race reporting in. Every ThinkPad made after this model is a knobbly doo-doo log
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>>43067162
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>>43067582
tripfag get out
>>
Hi~
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>>43068119
WOW I FORGOT MY IMAGE
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>>43068119
Hey
>>43068141
420NOSCOPE BOB MARLEY EDITION THINKPAD W/ INTEL EXTREEEEEEEEEEME GRAPHICS FOR LIQUID SMOOTH HEAD SHOTS
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>>43066945
Dude, newer thinkpads are windows machines with all sorts of wifi, power management, and graphics bugs.

/g/ says "great for linux" but it's a lie unless you limit yourself to the T61 and prior. The only actually linux certified laptops made today come from HP and dell, not lenovo, because they also sell computers to the US government (single largest linux using organization in the world).
>>
anyone with a t43p ever try running more than 2gb ram?
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>>43068162
>The only actually linux certified laptops made today come from HP and dell

seriously? well hp is garbage so dell then?
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>>43068188
>HP is garbage

Have you actually bought from them in the last few years? Or used anything like the 2570p (god tier)?
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>>43068159
>>43067582
>Mfw GA had nothing to contribute near me
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>>43052461
Post the wallpaper. :v
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>>43055257
do it
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>>43052263
>still using psp1000
mah nigga
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>>43068188
Thinkpad T-series is RedHat's standard issue internal machine for all employees, not just the programmers. We always had a big push before eash new T series release to make sure RHEL and Fedora were ready for them.
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>>43052461
>that uneven lighting
>furry
>probably going to cover it in cumstains while jerking off to linux using werewolves or some shit

Disgusting
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>>43059418
the only thing I can think of is the heatsink might no be making contact with the CPU or the heat-pipe is damaged in some way. check it, us the dot method for thermal paste and make sure it spreads all over the CPU to test contact.
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>>43051702
>>
I have t60p. What version of ubu based distro shuld I look for? Based on 12.XX? Or newer ones support this gpu as well?
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>get a T420 at work
>love it
>use it at home as my own notebook died
>quit job
>buy a ASUS
>not as comfy, keyboard sucks
>buyers remorse.gif
Man did I fuck up or what
>>
So, T500 or X201?
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>>43069742

They are two very different machines, do you want a 15" or a 12"?
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>>43069762
Portability isn't really an issue here seeing as due to an unfortunate set of circumstances I have got an AMD E1 piece of Toshiba crap as my main machine and I can't sell it for much and those two are the only I can find for decent prices.

Although the higher res screen on the T500 seems appealing
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>>43069829

If you do end up going for the x201 try get an x201s for the glorious 1440x900 screen
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>>43069857
x201s are rare
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>>43069258
Does your dog work at apple tech support?
>>
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Lenovo-ThinkPad-x220-12-5-Core-i5-3-3GHz-4GB-320GB-Webcam-Win-7-Pro-Laptop-/221494168840?pt=AU_comp_laptop&hash=item339214cd08

is this a good deal ni/g/ers?
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>>43066498
tease
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>>43068170

I have a t43 and I couldn't get more than 2GB to work.
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>>43070044

>x220

This is a thinkpad thread
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>>43070009
Yes.
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>>43070467
being a such a elitist phaggot is only going to lead to high cholesterol and diabetus. this is why you don't have any friends mate.
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>>43070562
>phaggot

This isn't the Bodybuilding Forums, faggot
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>>43070849
so sorry.
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Did I do well /g/uys?
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>>43071618
Do you need the hdd or is ssd alright?
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>>43071676
I have an ssd that I was planning to transfer into this and use the hhd in place of the dvd drive as secondary storage.
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>>43052461
wat, what resolution have the new screen?
>>
How well does Linux run on the W520? I hear some people say it just werks, but others say there's compatibility issues.
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>>43071831
The res is unchanged, battery life is slightly reduced since I had a later x200 which was LED.
Battery life is slightly reduced in exchange for better colors, better contrast, better viewing angles and the sharpness of a glossy screen.

The laptop feels much more modern, much more premium now.
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>>43063980
Atleast he didn't jizz on the panty.
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Hey /g/.

I put an IPS in my x220 and this happened.

My old TN screen works fine when I put it back in, is it possible I fucked something up or is the screen just faulty?
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>>43072048
Check the connections
Otherwise, it looks like the panel may have been cracked or just fucked in some other way
It's a very straight axis for a crack though
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>>43072186

On boot there a green tear lines at all different angles.

The connector is definitely in all the way, and my old screen works fine. There's no reason the IPS wouldn't work when the TN does, right?

Looks like there's a tiny stratch/crack on the back, so that could be it right?
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>>43072363
The second backing glass layer of the LCD may have cracked.
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>>43072384

Yeah, it looks like it got damaged in transit or something. There's a hole in the bag right where the tiny crack on the back is.

Just to make sure though, there's no reason why the IPS panel wouldn't work when the TN one does?
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>>43072465
If the plug is the same it should work.

Looks like the seller fucked up and should have packaged it more like >>43052349
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>>43070044
no
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>>43072363
Look at the pins between the display and LCD cable. Are they different? You might have to get a new cable for the IPS display.

>Looks like there's a tiny stratch/crack on the back, so that could be it right?

That's just a bright spot, very typical of the IPS displays that went into X220's.
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>>43066950
>>43070467
Why so much hate on the X220?
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>>43055698
yup.... My last year of highschool was 2005. *NO ONE* had a laptop, tablet, or any wifi device back then. Now, it seems like once you hit 8th grade you pretty much need one(not required by the school, but you'll be seen as 'the poor kid' if you dont have one)

I seriously doubt this is improving the quality of education too. I'm a huge geeky faggit and even i know that laptops would be more a distraction than useful tool for most people trying to learn... esp. if they are immature kids.
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>>43073796
must be a new way to stay hipster after /g/ successfully shilling them for years.
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>>43073888
>August 2013

Those prices are outdated as shit and that infograph is entirely based off of the ktgee.net guide, which is updated regularly.
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>>43074079
that guide and ktgee are both wrong, i got my first t-60 for $33, second for $45, nowhere near the $100 minimum its talking about on both guides
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>>43074825
The suggested prices are maximum you should pay, not minimum
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>>43073888
i gave my sister a think pad and she spilled coffee on it and it broke
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>>43074842
Yeah I know, they still seem way high, as in, why the fuck would anyone pay between $75-$100 for a T-60 unless the supply was thin
>>
What the fuck is the difference between carbon generations?
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how much should I expect to pay for an x220 off of ebay?

trying to see if it'd be worth buying an x220 because I'd need to buy an ssd, new battery(probably), and maybe an IPS replacement.
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>>43051729
Does the X220 have any advantage over the X201
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>>43076761
newer, all the things that come with new generations
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>>43076901
>>43076761
Oh shit. sorry. I mean the other way. Does the X201 have any advantage over the X201.
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>>43076947
display aspect ratio, 1280x800 (16:10) as opposed to 1366x768 (16:9) on the X220

that's about it
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>>43076986
Not him, but did the x201 support mSATA SSD?
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>>43077093
It has an mPCIE slot, but does not support mSATA, no
>>
Anyone with a X201 with wireless card issues? Apparently the model has issues with a faulty wireless card.

For a while now whenever it was undocked, the wireless card would just turn off randomly and the only way I could get it back working was to reboot.

Today, while docked the laptop decided to shut down randomly. I turned it back on, wireless card not working and the adapter wasn't showing up on device manager.

So I downloaded the driver from the lenovo website and got it working again, dunno how long it will last though.
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Just about to buy an X301. anything I need to know?
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>>43074861
Guess what, the supply is getting thin.
First because they are oldish, second because /g/thinkpad is snatching them all. Some people here buy them for refurbishing. Key to get low prices is to lurk eBay for improperly listed units and to frontrun the /g/entoomen.
Unless you have a specific reason (build a frankenpad with the 15" 4:3 panel, or the offcentered display drives you mad) I'd suggest a T61 with Intel video instead. SATA2 is available if you install the Middleton BIOS, and you can install 8GB of RAM instead of the 3GB on a T60.
You shouldn't buy a T61 with nVidia graphics because the units made before aug2008 are defective, and will fail. Manufacturing date of the laptop is not enough to tell; some units were made with older chips. You must remove the heatsink and check the chip directly to be sure. TL;DR go for Intel video.
If you get a T61 with loose hinges, look the FRUs for the Kato ones in the Hardware Maintenance Manual, they don't have this problem. You might want to get them preemptively.
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I have posted this before but I'll try again: approx. 5 days ago I bought an -almost- new ThinkPad x200. The BIOS had a supervisor password on it.

I opened the thing up, shortened out the SDA & SCL pins on the EEPROM chip. It skipped me straight to BIOS, without using a password, but options were still greyed out (couldn't edit them). I tried another method (from AllService.ro forum). Basically it involves building a small electrical circuit and hooking the EEPROM to a serial port.

I was able to dump my BIOS binary file but the password was not visible on the designated address. (because my bios is TCPA encrypted).

Now this forum called AllService is offering a service to unlock TCPA encrypted BIOSes. They modify your binary file with the password, and you'll have to cook it back. Because I don't want to spend 40 euros on that shit I want to try to do it myself. It seems quite logical.

I have found the hex address where the password resides. I am thinking about wiping it out and replacing it with 0's, then cooking it back to the BIOS. One of my concerns is the checksum of the binary file, and how the beast is gonna handle it.

Has anyone been through the same situation as me? I'd like some more information about the process because I'll probably end up bricking.
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>>43077523
You can remove the Lenovo branding from a T61.
Stickers for the LCD panel cover and the palmrest, with IBM logos, are available on eBay.
That thing below the panel, with the lights, is a plastic strip with glue. You can find them on eBay too, with or without "lenovo" written on them. The ones without lenovo are harder to find, always ask the seller if they really are without it, *or*, mod one to remove the lenovo logo.
To remove it, take the strip out of the paper where it comes. The printing is on the back of the strip. Remove the glue only from the part where the logo is. After that, carefully, use a small file to remove it. The filed off part will become transparent; use China ink to paint it again. Then replace the strip in your laptop, and you are done.
In this photo, the strip below was modified this way.
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>>43077523
I just wanted the cheapest general-purpose laptop I could get. My $45 T-60 does more than my $500 iPad. It has made me very happy. In retrospect, I SHOULD have waited / paid more to get a T-61 so I could have a 64bit processor and put in more than just 3 goddamn gigs of ram. Oh well. I do intend to get another Thinkpad though. Maybe one of the tablet ones, or, is there one that is like, netbook-size?
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>>43077232

I have a similar issue with my x200,wlan would stop working every now and then, sometimes it gets back on it's own, most of the time I have to turn the wlan switch off and then on again.

It doesn't happen very often but when it does is annoying as fuck.
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>>43077669
You may have noticed the gray function keys. Those were taken off from a T4x keyboard. This can be done easily on NMB keyboards. They are a direct swap, *if* you transplant the whole key assembly (the scissors and the "C" piece. You don't need to swap the rubber cups). This can also be done with Chicony keyboards, but is is much harder, you need to bend the key holding clips so that the larger T4x scissors can fit (Chicony keyboards don't use the C pieces). If you also want to replace Caps Lock on a Chicony, it will need light filing to fit. If you want to do this, be sure that you have a NMB keyboard. The easiest way to do this is to buy both, T4x and T6x keyboards, remembering to get the NMB variant. All keys can be swapped, in case you fancy the Caps Lock and the bolder lettering of the T4x (again, remember to swap the scissors *and* the C piece. Just transplanting the keycaps will damage them).
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>>43077712
You can install a 64bit CPU on a T60. You will be limited to 3GB, but you will have support for 64bit software and VT-x.
The best CPU compatible with a T60 is the T7600 SL9SD (2.33GHz, cpumark 1286, 64bit, VTx). Many T60 units come with a T2400 (1.83GHz, cpumark 785, 32bit, VTx). If you have one of those, you might want to upgrade, the T7600 is 50% faster. Many people prefer the T60 over the T61 because of the open source ATI drivers available for *nix. Intel drivers are actually better, but if you *need* 3D, you should go for ATI. The closed binary nVidia drivers (available for Linux and FreeBSD) are excellent and give you some GL extensions that never will be on the free drivers because they are patented, but many people don't want those drivers, because freedoms.
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>>43077932
>You can install a 64bit CPU on a T60. You will be limited to 3GB, but you will have support for 64bit software and VT-x.

Well that's better, but at the low prices of used Thinkpads, I might as well just get the T61, don't you think?
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>>43077712
There are no netbook sized models that /g/ would approve (mayhaps that thing given away to Australian students). I would recommend the X201, non tablet version.
http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Category:X201
It is small, has a 16:10 screen, support for 8GB of RAM and (up to?) a 1280x800 panel. The tablets might have a slower CPU, I don't know. Ask here.
http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Category:X201
You can install a X200 palmrest without UltraNav on it if you want to do so, it will fit.
And they are compatible with this:
http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/ThinkPad_X200_UltraBase
It fits perfectly below the laptop, making it thicker and giving extra ports, as well as a Serial Ultrabay Slim.
>>43078057
Regarding price, yes, a T61 is cheaper than this and a no-hassle option, and that will give you the delicious 8GB option, as well as faster CPUs. You might want to upgrade the T60 if any of the reasons in >>43077932 apply to you.
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>>43073568

>Look at the pins

Nah, its the right connection and everything and all the bright spots have a scratched texture to them.

Also when I bend the panel or apply pressure very slightly all the lines and colors fuck about.

So, I'm pretty confident its cracked now.
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I love my x200, but I plan to upgrade to a better screen, what are chances of finding something better. What are my alternatives?
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