>windows 8.1 Pro
>having different versions of an OS that each cost considerably more than the last
if you want to use an inefficient start menu at least do it with KDE
I actually prefer just the start button.
People who are whining about microsoft removing the Original Star Menu can suck a dick and walk out. I've never seen Microsoft fucking get on their knees because people don't want change. Jesus christ what a waste of time spent on creating another start menu for you whinny faggots.
It's not. There's going to be Windows 9, a single OS (no different versions) that has activation handled through the MS Store.
There WILL be a "Windows 365", which is more or less a cloud-based, subscription-based version of Windows, which is based off of the BUILD version of 8.1.2, and meant for enterprise usage.
Clearer pic if anyone wants it.
They really try to be "hip" uh
Desktop != Mobiles
Only that realization can save Windows
and also NSA + MS + Cloud fixation OS = Really? In a time where people become more and more focused on privacy, with all the leaks, and your history? Are you even trying to hide it anymore?
Okay. Go ahead and take Microsoft's dick up your ass because they want to change an integral part of the UI and you're so graciously willing to accept their multi-billion dollar cock up your ass.
I love it holy shit. I think MS is going to have tablet users using the desktop and launching touch apps through this new start menu. they'll also be able to use x86 desktop programs too, and multitask between them.
This will also be less jarring for people used to 7, they'll just have a few live tiles added to their menu. Normies will love having a little news thing that they can click to get quick news and weather and crap.
>I think MS is going to have tablet users using the desktop
Nope. Touch on the Desktop sucks thousands of dicks. Tablets will still run Metro-style apps full screen, but if a keyboard and mouse/touchpad is present then there's the option to run things on the Desktop
I'm now reminded of that whole "Apocalypse Scenario" rumor that floated around Apple, when somebody leaked that if Windows' market share ever dropped to a specific percentage due to Vista's poor reception, Apple would suddenly drop the prices of all Macs for a few months.
I know. I was at Build. The point of being able to run WinRT-based apps on the Desktop is for regular laptops (especially non-touch laptops) and desktop computers. This is so that you don't have to leave the Desktop on machines where it is not suited to leave the Desktop. This was primarily motivated by having MS move all the basic OS apps (e.g. Mail, Photos, Calculator) to the WinRT runtime rather than Win32, while allowing these applications to feel 'at home' on the Desktop.
They had better goddamn let us turn that shit right the fuck off.
I was saddled with 8.1 after buying a new laptop, and the only thing that makes it tolerable is that 8.1 allows me to hide Metro so far from the desktop that I never have to see it.
Give me Classic Theme or give me death.
We tend to single out sweden, but the reality is that all european countries are in danger.
Europeans should stop fighting among themselves and actually do something about it.
What the fuck is the point of that? Seriously. I get that you had a whole screen dedicated to it even though that was fucking stupid but now there's literally no point. You might as well just revert back to the classic start menu.
>hurr instead of saying "my computer" now there's an icon of "my computer"!
>So what is subscription based supposed to mean?
it means that if you don't get your moneys to the Church of Microsoft on time, you get no data.
No Tickey No Shirtey.
God that's even worse than regular metro.
Someone please remove microsoft's design department from this country and send them to work for someone else. We could cripple china's computing industry in one fell swoop.
>/g/ raves about how the performance is so much better than 8.1 and that 8.1 is a heap of shit and not even a hacked together start menu could save it
This happened with Vista and 7, you faggots are so dumb.
Lots of large splashes of bright colors distract the and confuse user, making him less productive. Even apple knows this, hence why their OS is so full of white and gray and why previous windows versions were equally plain.
Computers are for doing WORK, not being dazed and driven into a state of idiotic wonder by all the cool neon signs. Gee wizz, which fun app will you visit first? Windows is more like a shopping district than an operating system now.
It's pretty telling about what microsoft's new strategy is.
"fuck the business users, fuck the developers. we're going after the tech illiterate baristas now."
Microsoft is aware of how pirated Windows is. Not providing a free version would be suicide and it makes no sense as they benefit from a larger market share, even if they don't make a single cent from those pirated copies.
If they were to offer a subscription based windows only (without a stand alone version), they would most likely offer a free version just to ensure a higher usage level, as well as to push bing, skydrive, IE and their other shit.
That's all Segoe UI, no? There are bits of Ariel in the UI that need replacing though, but I'm sure if it was as simple as a find and replace operation MS would have already done that.
>As a music enthusiast windows 8 just doesn't cut it
Why? There's an argument for Mac OS (Core Audio's useful), but nothing has been degraded in 8/8.1 with regard to the audio subsystems.
>"fuck the business users, fuck the developers. we're going after the tech illiterate baristas now."
Oh please. You can still make it look as "professional" as you want.
Just years too late. if Microsoft had listened to their customers, Windows 8 wouldn't have been such a huge flop.
But we all know that Windows 9 will be a success, no matter how much it sucks, because the superstitious retards believe in their "good-shit-good-shit cycle.
They don't understand hardware acceleration.
The few people who do understand it and still want the classic theme are Thinkpad T60 semi-freetards whose ancient shithardware doesn't support the shader model necessary for hardware acceleration in Windows to work.
Ok, I'll bite. I use classic theme. Got any proof that it's actually faster?
The only thing I care about is responsiveness of the ui, how much processing power it takes, and ram usage. I also hate the shiny shit but will use it if it's faster, it just doesn't make sense to me that a monocolored bar uses more than a reflective texture with transperancy.
Why did you point that out.
Goddamn now I'm mad.
App = "Mini" application for mobiles. (Quotes because it doesn't really mean anything, GTA:SA on Andoid is still an app)
Desktop = Program/Application
With our distribution of windows 8.1 within our workplace, we include a pre-installed version of Classic View to give that windows 7 familiarity
That, whatever it is, is still ugly as fuck,
>They really try to be "hip" uh
>Desktop != Mobiles
>Only that realization can save Windows
Yeah, it's not like both Apple an Canonical are forcing the exact same shit down our throats, is it?
It's an industry trend, no matter how deplorable it is. There's actually no logic in blaming it on Microsoft, it was started by the consumer after the whole iPhone thing.
What is the /g/ verdict on Directx 11.1?
I've seen people getting better framerates while using it.
Also I like the idea of the added features. I've got 2x 7970s in crossfire. Just wondering if it's worth it.
You look like ass faggot i'll fucking stab you mate what the fuck would you know mate I'll stab u come at me m8
I actually like Metro. Whenever I want to open a program I just press the Windows key then type the program name so it's not much of a change from win7 except it just looks better.
>purple and yellow
being in the middle of two postures is the weakest and most coward movement. they have blown it.
Together with the w9 restrictions to install it (need to deinstall in one computer to use in another, IF you have a legal copy, which is fucking retarded) this is a big deal they could have left metro but making it open with the left button, with right you have classic. TA FUCKING DA.
So, i guess steam OS and w8 until deprecated will be, later switch w8 for linux (fuck RMS).
Bill gates should be over the drawing desk instead of tripping in africa, at least he had balls.
>(need to deinstall in one computer to use in another, IF you have a legal copy, which is fucking retarded)
Yes, being allowed to use one license on multiple computers is retarded. I hope they admit this and go back to the old way of one install per license and having to fucking call them to install it on another computer, only to have the first tell me that I'm a victim of software counterfeiting.
You're an idiot.
Aero and whatever the fuck the Win8 UI is called are compositing. Your GPU is keeping track of what the windows look like when they're obscured rather than only drawing them when visible. This makes for a smoother experience while taking some load of the CPU. Classic theme saves a bit of RAM and does all window drawing with the CPU.
Which will be faster depends some on your hardware, but anything remotely modern will generally be faster with Aero.
you are the idiot, you have one license. you install it. you cant install it in a second computer. after that all as ¨always¨. The news is that you have to deinstall, AKA call them, to install it IF YOU BUY ANOTHER COMPUTER and you dont use the former anymore.
Also the huge use of windows is partly due to piracy, same with the new tactics of apple, they dont require you to pay anymore for the OS.
I can understand people who shill for Apple without being paid because they want to justify the money they spent or because it honestly just werks, but even still all of the apple Shill threads the language and tone is never the same as it is in Windows shill threads
It's always so much more aggressive whenever Microsoft is involved, when someone mentions they'll keep using their pirated copy of Win7 vs getting Win8/9 the response is always so vitrolic, like if you said you didn't upgrade your OSX and kept an older version people will be like
>Ok I guess XYZ logic makes sense but I like Mavericks more or whatever
But for windows it's like
>Are you fucking retarded, are you so incredibly stupid why the fuck wouldn't you upgrade it? You get 2 seconds faster boot times and you can even spend time and make it look like Win7 too
Same thing with iDevices vs Surface, you talk about how you bought a mac/iphone/ipad/ect and people will either go
>Wow enjoy that debt
>Very nice let me link you mine
But once again surface discussions are the same shit like
>WOW WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU WANT ANYTHING ELSE This is the perfect device its a tablet and a laptop and its so cheap you must be fucking less than human to consider a MBA over this fucking kill yourself
I'm overexaggerating but I can't be the only one who notices this being the issue, I don't think there is a single person who cares enough about Windows to shill this hard without being paid
If speed were important, everyone would be running Linux. Nobody cares about speed when can slap a SSD in it and call it a day.
Mac OS threads, at the right time, can be pretty level-headed and helpful, to be fair. Though even in OS X threads, there's only really two camps - those on Snow Leopard, or those on Mavericks. The third option I suppose is those on Yosemite. Staying on Lion or Mountain Lion is daft at this stage, and most people will call you out on it.
The reason why most people get aggy in Win8 threads is because the proponents of Windows 7 are themselves vitriolic and generally haven't actually tried 8 for any reasonable amount of time. That inevitably devolves into shit slinging.
I think most people will agree that Windows 8/8.1 doesn't really bring much to make it worth installing on an existing machine. The point is that there's no real reason to plump for 7 over 8.1 on a new build - especially since, under the hood, 8.1 is better. Refinements to Explorer (e.g. native ISO mounting) and multimon enhancements tend to be overlooked too.
>If speed were important, everyone would be running Linux.
Bwahahahahaha no. Try again when using Linux doesn't feel like cold syrup. Don't know what they do differently with their caching but it obviously doesn't work.
If you're (not you, but you in general) are going to use Steam OS, just do the world a favour and buy a console. It's the exact same shit, but you won't go around calling yourself "master race" when you're being retarded. Steam is cancer. I miss when you actually had to have a bit of intelligence to play games on the computer instead of this download and play.
If they get popular enough it'll either pressure Console makers to let people change out their hardware past just swapping HDDs, or make the OS something you can buy or whatever so you can play your 'amazing' console games on the PC
Well, it's uhhh, Steam... and uhhh, it's a PC! And like, it has Steam on it, and you can play master race games on it! And you can like, play it on your couch, and hook it up to your TV! I'm not a console peasant anymore!
Having swappable hardware removes the Just Werks element of things. Might as well be a PC at that point.
PC games, played with a controller. And even then, it's a subset since lol no Direct3D on Leenux.
It's just Gaben being bitter. And butthurt because the Windows Store (with further refinement) might eat into Steam's stranglehold on the Desktop
>I miss when you actually had to have a bit of intelligence to play games on the computer instead of this download and play
HAHAHA HOLY SHIT.
DO YOU LISTEN TO YOURSELF WHEN YOU TYPE?
>I miss hunting down random .dlls on some backwards ass site with a neon green background
>I miss clicking the download link and finding out it's dead.
Fucking developers, making life easier for us.
Non-touch Mouse and Keyboard gets start menu back no more start screen. Start menu adds optional metro apps. Metro apps gain windowed mode
Tablets contine with startscreen
How is that bad?
The only bad thing, is that MS dicked around with the start screen on non-touch devcies instead of making it like W9 from the beginning
So it's the exact same OS as Vista SP1 with slight cosmetic touches here and there.
Yeah, can't wait to pay for that (okay, crack it because I doubt anyone even here is retarded enough to actually pay to get spied on).
does it even matter?
I installed Classic Shell the day I got a Win8 laptop and I never looked back (and have never used the phone-app style programs ever, other than whatever system settings got shunted into the Metro-style UI).
Wait, you don't hear each individual key that you press spoken aloud in your head?
What happens if you click "all apps"? Does it stays within that menu or does it open metro?
To be honest metro is way better than this, it feels something inbetween that doesn't really bring anything good.
I am so frustrated with Windows 8 and now even more with 8.1 that I have to start taking meds or something. I guess it's good that Washington has legalized marijuana - maybe, that's how Microsoft went from Windows 7 the best operating system ever to Windows H8. Microsoft, why are you trying to turn my PC into a giant dual 24" monitor freaking PHONE? I've already got a phone - it's Android based because - well, Microsoft gave us Windows Mobile. I don't WANT everything I click on full screen - I want to multi task. I don't want my stuff hidden a way until I wave my mouse over the "magic spot" in the corner or who knows where. It took me about 30 minutes the first time I opened up a PDF document and tried to figure out how to print the damn thing! So I heard that there was so much outcry about losing the start button that 8.1 was going to bring it back. I've been too busy to read up on it (should I have to?) and was pissed off to discover that the start button in Windows 8.1 just takes me back to the very screen I hate in the first place! And why are you making it so hard for me to be an Administrator on my own computer. I do NOT need to have have my friggin OS tell me that I don't have permission to do stuff! During the update process to 8.1 on my work computer I was FORCED to log in with my personal Microsoft ID to continue - I just wanted to use a local user ID. At least I could do that in Windows 8. I don't have a work Microsoft ID - just my personal one. I don't NEED a Microsoft ID for work. I don't WANT a Microsoft ID for my work computer. I just want a local login. So I try to disconnect my Live ID after I get it updated and it asks for a user name and password, so I put in the same one as I had in 8 because that's the one
I need on my workgroup on all of my computers to make sharing easy. "That user name is already in use" - WTF? I just want to disconnect my MS Live ID - not create a new user. Please don't ever get in to designing or building cars! If I wanted to open the hood to check the oil on my Microsoft car I would have to wave my hand over some magic spot on the dash to get the hood to pop - and then I would get denied permission from the car to pull the dipstick out! I bought Windows PRO for Christ's sake! Let me turn off the start screen. Let me manage my user accounts and assign permissions without hassle. Please for the love of all that is holy, let me tell my OS that my PC is NOT A TABLET and does not have a touch screen! I keep seeing this flipping message on the side that insists that I swipe from the side of my screen to go back to the last program or window - swiping my mouse doesn't work and this unwanted pesky little helper is getting in my way covering stuff up! It's like having an annoying assistant that when I ask for something, I get a smile and a "Guess which hand it's in? C'mon, guess! Nope, not that one, try the other!" Just fork it over! I don't want to hunt for the damn print button when I'm looking at photos! Windows 7 was (and still is) the best OS ever. FSX was great, but MS Flight was an idiotic disaster. What the FUCK is going on there? Microsoft, I've loved you for decades - why are you treating me this way? .
They're STILL going with "All Apps"?
I hate clicking on that only to find a clusterfuck of programs 100 listed long. When will they ever step up to the linux standard of having it categorized? Fuckin tards.
>I actually prefer just the start button.
>People who are whining about microsoft removing the Original Star Menu can suck a dick and walk out. I've never seen Microsoft fucking get on their knees because people don't want change. Jesus christ what a waste of time spent on creating another start menu for you whinny faggots.
You are an evil whore who thinks people should be purposely inconvenienced
BUT WHO WAS CHOICE
WHO WAS CHOICE MY FRIEND
BUT WHO WAS
Sorry for cursin' ye m8, but get real, ye?
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>Okay. Go ahead and take Microsoft's dick up your ass because they want to change an integral part of the UI and you're so graciously willing to accept their multi-billion dollar cock up your ass.
An uppity rebuke be seen in the land, indeed