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So I got the MIR software running (well the training verion for kosmonauts, but it's the same software), on a scale from dryden to neo, how much of a hacker am I?
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>>42590842
Actually, it's not from the MIR but from the Soyuz
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>>42590842
explain yourself
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>>42590842
How
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>>42591024
Spacecrafts use software to provide an interface to the astronauts. There's a training version of this very software which simulates a flight. It's what you see in the OP pic. It looks like some 1337 haX0r software since it's been develeoped in the 60ies until at least 2002. Pic related, it's the credits
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>>42591087
http://astronaut.ru/bookcase/prog.htm
click on
"??????????"
unzip the file and run inpu.exe in dosbox

I use the following command:
dosbox -c "mount c: PathToDirectory" -c "c:" -c "inpu" -c "exit"
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>>42591108
https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=de&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=ru&tl=en&u=http://astronaut.ru/bookcase/article/ar-instr.htm
partially translated docs
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>>42590842
good stuff OP now you can fly Russian space craft
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>>42590842
>on a scale from dryden to neo,
well considering you aren't getting 1k/month for having a vagina and actually did something partially complex with a computer im gonna have to say neo
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>>42591488
Still pissed of from those feminist threads?

Yeah, me too.
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>>42591510
sorry I don't mean to derail the thread but god fucking dammit man. God dammit.

anyways, is there any translations of this thing? any more information?

I've always been interested in the software side of space travel and this is the first piece I've gotten my hands on.

My Russian is limited to what little I've studied on a few rare occasions.
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>>42591567
Probably not. I know cyrillic but those abbreviations are too cryptic. Maybe there's a manual in English.
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>>42591600
Ah well, It'll still be pretty fun to fuck around with.

Are you aware of anything like this from NASA?

I mean they can't keep it all completely locked up. There has to be something they don't use anymore that could be floating around
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>>42591648
I remember there was a game for some old gaming system where you flew the Spaceshuttle... don't know about any official simulators, sorry. They were probably some proprietary military grade computers that used 47bit integers and 113bit data buses or something..
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That's really fucking neat, OP. I would learn cyrillic just to fuck around with this.
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>>42590842
What did you actually have to do to get this running?
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This is going to be /g/'s new favorite distro.

Stay tuned in desktop threads folks.
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>>42591843
see
>>42591108

im still trying to get sound going. I doubt there is sound but I figured their might be some kind of alarm or something in there.

you know, if you hit the wrong button and the chute deploys and you're still in orbit or some shit
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>>42591898
It's a DOS program, genius.
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Umm.

Shit.
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>>42592033
I'm pretty sure I crashed my spacecraft a couple of times already, but I managed to reset it somehow. I'm not sure how though.
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>>42592053
another scary looking thing
Why are there never any russians around when you need them?
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>>42592067
I guess red is universally agreed as the 'OH FUCK SHIT'S FUCKED UP' color

..even if they were commies

Well I guess someone could try venturing over to a Russian chan and asking nicely for a little more information or at least a little translation.
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>>42592067
It says "Non Standard Settings"
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>>42592089
Maybe it says that it's the demo and you have to register online?
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>>42592089
Screw nice lets threaten nuclear warfare. We have their technology now so we have the upper hand.
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>>42592089
Think /int/ might be able to help?
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>>42592134
Perhaps. Ill make a thread and show them our super awesome screenshots of burning death
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I'm pretty sure my spacecraft is not supposed to be where it is.
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>>42592134
Yeah they should be able to.

>>42592162
Would love a link when you make it.
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>>42592215
>>>/int/26093157
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>>42592202
I'm assuming it's the little red dot?
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>>42592234
The one time I went on there I was told I was a korean, apparently that's le epic maymay over there.
Watch out for that.
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>>42592067
>>42592089

Just post on /int/ during RIDF power hour.

Which is every hour.
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>>42592234

remember 4chan was banned in russia so it's only possible for the to come here with a proxy. That's why there are few of them
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>>42592249
Yes, and it SHOULD be on the sine
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>>42592314

Yeah, for like a day

There's plenty of Russians here.
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>>42592314
It is not banned for me
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>>42590966
It's like I'm right there
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>>42592668

top lel

installing on 486 now
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>>42592334
Heh
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>>42592668
>>42592682

now that I think about it, do you know the minimum requirements for this OP? I kind of want to install it on my PS/2, but it has a 386-16 and OS/2 1.3
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What graphics mode is this in? Since its 640x480, is it VGA, or is it upscaling by emulator?
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>>42592707
I'm told it runs flawlessly on a RPi, considering its first version is from 1961 and it probably still runs on the same hardware you should be fine.
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>>42592668
Owning this piece of hardware would be pretty awesome
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>>42592756
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>>42590842
Hey, OP, how does I/O work? Are you just pointing and clicking?
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>>42591108
>dosbox
>MSDOS

fucking lel slavs.
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>>42592774
You use the arrow keys to navigate the xoursor ant enter to click. Alternatively you can also use the numbers to select the tabs at the bottom menu. Thers also some keys that jump to specific views. No mouse support.
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>>42592774
Use the arrows from the keyboard. Also most keys are assigned for different screens.
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>>42592787
I somehow doubt they had Windows 8.1 in 1962
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>>42592825
Didn't have x86 chips or DOS in 1962, either
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>>42592802
Has anyone gotten the mouse to actually work or is it just for show?

And sound? It really seems like there should be warning bells and sirens associated with some of these blinking red lights
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>>42592845
file *
COLOR.SF: data
demo211.zip: Zip archive data, at least v2.0 to extract
EPROM.DAT: Alpha compressed COFF
EPROMSPS.DAT: data
INPU.EXE: MS-DOS executable, MZ for MS-DOS Self-extracting PKZIP archive
KS020.DAT: data
LUTS.DAT: raw G3 data, byte-padded
MODEL.DAT: data
MONO.SF: data
RUNTIME.WP: data

Holy Shit, I didn't ever expect to see COFF again.
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>>42592871
This programm has no mouse support, the coursor moves with the arrow keys.
The man page however claims there's "beep support" (google translate is somewgat vague on that) but I didn't get it to work.
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>>42592495

/k/ has tons of Russians
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>>42592892
>beep support
Huh, alright.

also I found out BEKTOP means vector

I fucked with some of the numbers on there and it fucked some shit up i think

lel
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>>42592904
Hahahahahahahaha
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Well this the coolest fucking thread I've come across on /g/ in 6 months. Thanks for contributing OP.
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>>42592954
My pleasure, I figured you guys might enjoy this.
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>sitting here fucking with this
>realize I have my NASA t-shirt on

Feels like I've been tasked with secretly reverse engineering a stolen piece of soviet software.

if only..
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>>42590966
>Russia invented the finglonger for spaceflight
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>>42592774
>DOS
>expecting pointing and clicking
Definitely 15 years old.
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I wonder what this is
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>>42592707

If it's a straight port of '60s software then I guess I'll be OK

Even an RPi will out-perform a 386DX-16 with 3 MB of RAM though, lel

>>42592845

They had their own x86 clones that they were happily churning out (including a 100% IBM compatible DOS clone) until Intel was able to sell 386s to them directly.

>>42593050

Mouse-enabled DOS software has been a thing since even before Windows came.
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>>42593054

Docking, maybe?

Does anyone here know if NASA released anything like this to the public? It'd be nice to have samples of this shit for both programs.
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>>42593096
>Mouse-enabled DOS software has been a thing since even before Windows came.
Not to be expected, however; that's my point.
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It would be great if Kerbal Space Program had something just like this.
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OP this is the coolest thread I have seen in /g/ for a long time thank you
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>>42593109

Oh, yeah. For sure.

I find myself surprised an awful lot when it comes to mouse support, it's hit or miss.
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http://web.mit.edu/slava/space/essays/essay-tiapchenko4.htm
more info on this thing, maybe someone can make something of this
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>>42593137

I *still* find myself
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>>42593050
I am playing a mouse driven DOS game right now
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Looks like the desktop of some ricer faggot
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>>42593193
I actually tried to draw it on the root window as desktop background but didn't manage, any help is appreciated.
It would also make a nice interactive screensaver.
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?????????? ???????? ????????????
No video input signal

They must have some special hardware they hook up to a computer when they run tests.

Or something like that, I have no idea.
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>>42593223

I actually wonder what systems this has been running on

Proprietary designs in the '60s to elektronika PDP-11 clones in the '70s and '80s to DOS clones in the '90s, maybe?
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>>42593219
>It would also make a nice interactive screensaver.

yes it would, it's even cooler than the hal 9000 one i use now
http://www.halproject.com/hal/
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>>42593223
should probably look somewhat like the screen to the top left
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>??? ?????

My spacecraft has had no connection for 4:10 does that mean my comrads are dead?
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>>42592126
top lel

>time to deploy the chute
>YOUR 30 DAYS TRIAL PERIOD IS OVER
rip
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>>42593223
>http://www.halproject.com/hal/
They obviously used AIX
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>>42593261
Let's hope you never have to fly the real thing
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>>42593254
God that shit looks so fucking cool

I wish there was a more active space flight sim community and some actual sims to fuck with.

But no, faggots just want to fly boring as shit sky buses
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>>42592707
It will on a 386, but it needs a floating-point unit, so it has to either be a 386DX or you have a 387 coprocessor.
Just 386SX won't work.

Pic related, will not run on a NEC V20 (8088 clone)
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>>42593281
code one, i'd be interested. there was a pretty cool foss sub sim that got abandoned
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>>42593281
Kerbal Space Program
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It just werks.

Thanks for the based thread OP.

>>42593288

Your theory is confirmed, pic related

>386DX-16
>3 MB RAM
>60 MB ESDI disk
>OS/2 1.2

Seems to run a little slow but now I have a purpose for this shit. Gonna test it on my 486DX/2-66 next and then maybe an SX-33.
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>>42593275
Well the no connection was a countdown timer... And I wanted to see if my comrades would all die. But apparently I used my amazing knowledge and saved the day. Since the countdown reset.

I feel like a hero in a movie.
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>>42593323
cyka indeed
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>>42593323
Thats fucking cool, I'm jealous. Saw a Compaq Deskpro 386 at a thrift store recently, but was beat to hell and missing the power supply.

Still regret not getting it. Have a 386 mobo with an Am386DX-L-40 in it and think I have some FPM SIMMs around somewhere, should try to get it up and running.
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>>42593323
bad ass. and to think i threw a similar ps/2 out in the late nineties.
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>>42593351

have no regrets, it wouldn't have been worth the time it would take to source new parts for when you could just buy a new one in better shape

buy a cheap AT case off of ebay and a 540MB IDE drive or something, the 386DX-40 is the most based x86 CPU of all time

>>42593384

you filthy nigger

I don't blame you though, people probably saw microchannel boxes/AT clones then the same way people see P4 dells now
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Is my Russian just really bad or does that say something like "Eyebrows off" like I blew the fucking shuttle up??
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>>42593323
It's amazing that people managed to go into space with this hard(and soft-)ware. Why isn't space travel more common nowadays, I mean we carry much more potent technology around in our friggin pants.
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>>42593403
>people probably saw microchannel boxes/AT clones then the same way people see P4 dells now

that's exactly right. it's funny how the older you get, the more you try to buy back all the tech that you threw out in your childhood.
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>>42593413
well there's the whole stupendous amount of power required thing and the fact that everything in space is trying to kill you. it's more than just wiz bang hardware.
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>>42593413
Because space travel still costs a lot of money, and we (America) would rather spend said money spying on our citizens, bringing freedom to countries that don't want it, and paying fat lazy people to sit on their asses and eat Cheetos while shooting up diabetes medication.

We can't even siphon off enough money to give our veterans proper healthcare.
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>>42593465
>bringing freedom
I hope this is a joke.
>paying fat lazy people to sit on...
Oh it isn't.
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>>42593406
Go to google translate and use the onscreen keyboard

it's tedious as fuck but it sheds a little light

I'm wondering if you could just get a dump of all the words somehow, feed that to a translate, then put it all back in?
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>>42593493
http://russian.typeit.org/
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>>42593406

top kel

gtranslate reports the same thing

>>42593413

Once you have a ship built, space travel is nothing but math. Older PCs are still very good at math, especially ones with floating point units. fuck, that PS/2 (and everything else in its class) could pull anything but web surfing for a casual or even business user, mine was used by a grandma until around 2000 for letter writing and before that it belonged to a chemical company and was used as a mainframe terminal.

Flying isn't the hard part, it's building the machine to do it.

>>42593436

I guess there's still a lot of it laying around, though. You never know where you'll find it.

>XT came from some old newspaper editor who was using it up until 2010
>PS/2 came from a thrift store distribution center, when I was in the right place at the right time
>SGI shit from surplus stores

I don't have much nostalgic shit I'm buying back though, I just love old enterprise/high-end gear. Something about it just feels fucking great.

>>42593465
>>42593473

no NSA pls

It's also that space travel is very unprofitable and the public really isn't that motivated to push for it. They would rather see more money poured into giving veterans proper healthcare (regardless of whether they do or not) than into some nebulous "we space soon" goal with no clear benefit outside of the scientific community.

Even during the space race the public really didn't give a fuck about the moon landing and thought it was a waste of money.
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>>42593493
???? ????????? -> brvi off

This is what GT suggested:
????? ????????? -> eyebrows off
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>>42593493
>feed that to a translate
You would probably end up with lots of bullshit, because one word can have multiple meanings.
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>>42593527

"BRVI" sounds like an acronym, probably some subsystem. Maybe a Russian anon would know?
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Not even sure what I just did

It started punching in numbers on the right, like the keys were actually moving as if i
was pressing enter.

and the progress bar was moving

It's done now.
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>>42593548
BRVI is just the phonetic sounding of ????

? - B
? - R
? - V
? - I

And that is what GA does when it doesn't know the word. But I'm not sure. Maybe I could go to 2ch and ask them.
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>>42593493
strings outputs a couple of copzright notices about some font, namely
ont 12x23          Copyright (c) 1990,91 by Airspace Computing Systems (ACS)  ph. 556-79-80 (Moscow)   This Font mades by FONTEDIT utility. Useful that are supported by FONTS 5.0+ unit. A Font may be appended to your .EXE program by ADDEXE utility.

I'm not sure what that implies, but the chatacters may very well be drawn rather than written on the source code.
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>>42593527
"eyebrows off" sounds like a condition you would want to avoid in space flight
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>>42593571

I knew that, but when I searched for ???? it didn't point me to anything spacecraft-related.
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>>42593493
It's possible to translate the binary.

>>42593522
It is a waste for the most part, yeah.

>>42593572
strings is entirely unlikely to find cyrillic characters in whatever exotic encoding they came up with back then.
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cant we upscale it?
maybe looks cool in fullscreen
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>>42592712
See pic related, but don't know how accurate that is.

>>42593589
>strings is entirely unlikely to find cyrillic characters in whatever exotic encoding they came up with back then.
CP 866, my friend.

>>42593413
>I mean we carry much more potent technology around in our friggin pants.
I don't think our cell phones are radiation-hardened. That would be cool, though.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiation_hardening
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>>42593609
append -fullscreen to your dosbox command:
dosbox -c "mount c: ~/git/bin/space/" -c "c:" -c "inpu" -c "exit" -fullscreen
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>try to wordlens it
>
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>>42593236
Probably some imported IBM PC's
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>>42593679
maybe its better to screencap it and feed it to ocr?
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>>42593679
whoa neat
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>>42593236
They were able to make 8080 and 8088 clones in the early 80s, which went into some of their own computer designs.

They had their own IBM clones by the late 80s.

But even before that, they had some imported from Romania and East Germany. Robotron XT clones were popular around then, I believe.
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>>42593679
good idea
top left is FUEL and i'm lost
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what if eyebrows are solar panels of the ship?
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I have no idea what the fuck I'm doing but damn I feel badass doing it.

Can anyone give me a hint?
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>>42593779

>sideways

Fucking iShit
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>>42593779
When all these numbers are running down the screen, and the progress bar is loading I feel like a Russian hacking in missile silos
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I don't know what the fuck I'm doing but I'm having the fun of my life. Thanks OP!
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>>42593779
Pic related is the menu screen.
Each row has several tabs, selecting one og the tabs changes the view accordingly and sets the tabs at the bottom (according to the row). The leftmost button in that bottom menu (?1) changes the view to pic related. Some menus have submenus, denoted by an arrow. The rightmost button circles through the top 3 rows.
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fugg it here's another wordlens attempt

>mfw I pulled back a little after I took the cap and it plastered "JEW" in bold arial across the lit notification lamps

>>42593827

Egselend
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>take screenshots of many menus
>feed them to wordlens
>profit
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this interface is similar to russia capsule in movie Gravity...
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I-I think I found the oxygen tank status

t. moviegoer

gravity a 10/10
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>>42593880
imagine that
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>>42593827
*cycle, not circle
Also you can see the mentioned arrows in the bottom row ("TEXH"). Ro exit you can either use ALT+X or go to
TEXH -> CN -> NHNY1 (1st entry) -> BbIXOA (5th entry)
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Google Translate image feature is... sort of working.
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Thanks wordlens, you're a best.
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gonna try downloading Wordlens too.

has anyone gotten sound working?
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Apperently the top left box is your position in the menu, breadcrumbs style.
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Some sort of keybindings, probably.
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Can we get some Wordlens on this?
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>>42593973

shit it worked this time

Looks like an event log.
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well lookie there

looks familiar
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>>42594002

I wonder what "glanders" does...
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>>42594041
Holy shit is that "No video input signal" error because we don't have a video feed from the spaceship? I can't believe a 1960's program had direct video input. But I wasn't born till 1994

Also is this version from 2002? Ref: pic related

Version 3.12
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>>42594072

My birthday.

Sweet
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>>42594002
KS-020 might refer to an HP-3000 RISC minicomputer.
>>42594072
>Also is this version from 2002
If so, then my above theory is very well possible.
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>>42594072
Well this is the test version from what I understand.

I'm guessing they have some hardware they hook up that simulates video input and gives you something to look at.

I wonder how difficult it would be to simulate that.
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>>42594072

This is more than likely a straight rip of the Soyuz computer's software.
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>>42594072
What you're using isn't a 1960's program. But indeed, they had video feeds even then. Just because MS OSes and utilities were laughably primitive for ages and ages, doesn't mean everything else was too.
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You guys should recreate this game to have English text
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>>42594125
>game
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>>42594072
This software has been developed from 1961 to at least 2002, maybe there's newer versions even and we simply didn't find them. But there have been a lot versions of this software for sure, probably with a lot of different hardware as well.
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>>42594125

This is actually the real deal

Maybe we can find some bored Russians on /int/ to help us type up an English guide.
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>>42594102

you may be right, or it's a codename.
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>>42593306

The physics aren't realistic though.
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https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?act=url&depth=1&hl=en&ie=UTF8&prev=_t&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=ru&tl=en&u=http://astronaut.ru/bookcase/article/ar-instr.htm&usg=ALkJrhhPhXSLsV63tCCECL6C8bzOocPkzQ

Here are the instructions in english for anyone who hasn't started reading yet.
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>tfw this UI looks based as fuck
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>>42594163
Well that's barely exthausive, a complete manual would be awesome, but probably too much to hope for. Also that translation of the button names doesn't exactly help, but I suppose it's better than nothing
>>42594181
We should use it in Starbucks and make the Gipsters envy us
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I'm Russian and I don't understand any of this. It's all jargon, so translating it wouldn't help anyway.
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>>42594187
Hipsters, I have no idea what a gibster is, maybe someone that's into cyberpunk?
Pic related allows you to set alarms
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Looks like INPU.EXE is a compressed executable, compressed by PKLITE V.1.12.
And may have other files inside of it as well, hex-editing shows a filename listing.

>>42593548
>BRVI
Its "Block Manual Entry"
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>>42593922
>GONG
I laughed way harder than that deserved
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Sorry about the shitty quality but is this a production version being used now?
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It's probably an elaborate russian botnet to umdermine america and you're all falling for it.
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>>42594250
It can't even run on modern hardware retard, it need DOSBOX to work
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>>42594240
Here is a better quality version of this picture
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that would look very sexy running on a thinkpad 701c, grid gridcase or ps/2 l40
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>>42594240
That'd figure, a GUI can go a long way in 12 years
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>>42594263
They probably rewrote the thing from scratch, the one we have looks like it haves lots of legacy stuff
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>>42594268
Well it looks similar and runs on pretty much the same hardware, see
>>42592756
>>42592762
>>42594260
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>>42590842
Reported for terrorism and using soviet spyware on this board. Also reported for being a suspicious soviet sleeper cell.
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>>42594258
>implying doscocks isn't an elaborate russian botnet
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After all this fucking around with this program I really want to be in a room watching this powerpoint and listening to the instructor
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>>42594305
He'd probably speak russian though.
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>>42594314
shut up
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Alright fuckers. Messing around with wordlens at the entire thing allied with my extensive flight hours [spoiler]5 hours[/spoiler] at Kerbal Space Program allowed me to conclude with 100% sure that the program is simulating a docking event with probably the ISS or MIR.
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>>42594210

We're OK with Jargon if you can at romanize it.
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>>42594314
tfw no russian language knowlege
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>>42594213

>alarm clock running on real soyuz control software on a DOS ThinkPad

sounds based as fuck
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>>42594337
I am pretty sure you can still buy some old processors/clones that could run it. This may become the next nixie tubes.
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>>42594337
If only we got sound working...
I'd love to wake up to a screen telling me where my non-existent space craft would be by now. It could run on one of those giant screens looming in your bedroom, making all the pussy wet.
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bumping with another random screen
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fuck

Here's my est. Minimum Requirements:

>80386DX-16 or SX-16 with 387 FPU
>2 MB RAM
>VGA Display
>Hard disk with at least 1 MB of free space
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>>42593050
Ha! Just got back on to see this asinine comment.

>all that projecting

I wasn't actually expecting native mouse support, but some form of hacked-together DOSbox solution that made shit work.

>yfw I've never used DOSbox
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Thank you, OP

Now I can hack into the mainframe.
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>>42594326
Too much work, sorry.
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>>42594466
Objectivist cunt.
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>>42594351

Way ahead of you, Anonymous.

>tfw the 755CX a shit and full screen DOS looks like ass

bismuth for scale
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>>42594571
ebin
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>>42594237
I have been trying to uncompress it.
Used everything from 90s BBS piracy tools to eventually PKLITE itself (has an uncompress function with -x switch). It would still function as an exe, but would dump out to an error talking about a file named NEPTUN.FNT.

Googling "NEPTUN.FNT" in case it was just some file that came with a toolkit or something and was available somewhere else. Nothing, but did find a list of all the files the hex-editing mentioned here: http://www.everfall.com/paste/id.php?38e3mlzmhmex
Its also dated over a year ago.
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>>42594571

wholly fuck

Now that I'm comparing the two of these...

>PS/2
>cursor lurches like fuck
>amazed that the clock is correctly incrementing

>755CX
>butter smooth
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>>42594291
>>Announcing a report
Lol enjoy your ban for breaking the rules, troll.

Cool stuff OP.
>>
the /int/ thread 404'd
are we going to try again?
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>>42594704
Yeah go ahead. They said it was 5am earlier, which we should have taken into account, and that was a few hours ago.

I'm not sure how many rooskies will be on, and how many of those would be willing to help
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>>42594704

I'll make one if you haven't already.
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>>42594727
go ahead, I just found this thread (great stuff btw), I haven't even downloaded the thing
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>>42594616
That's the Neptune font, m8.
It was popular for it's crisp cyrillic letters for 8-bit/bitmap fonts.
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thx op now i can fly my soyuz while i'm on the go
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>>42594659
Pentium 75>386DX-16

But it now might be safe to assume it ran on hardware faster than a 16MHz 386.

Speaking of, does anyone know when they started to use DOS for this software? I know it says September 19, 2002, but I'm sure this is a later version.

Also, this was during the last flight of the Soyuz TM's before they went to TMA's. The launch was that April and it landed in November. Might explain why we only have this version, because they were done, they released it for educational purposes.

And guess who was aboard the craft on that particular flight? Mark Shuttleworth of Canonical (Ubuntu devs)
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>>>/int/26099346
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>>42594781

Probably around 1990-ish when PCs became fast enough, before they were probably running it on clone PDP-11s and proprietary hardware.

this is only semi-related but I feel like linking it, probably the most based online computer museum, especially for Soviet clone electronics: http://www.leningrad.su/museum/
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>>42594763
sweet
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>>42594102

http://blogs.esa.int/luca-parmitano/page/11/

"KS-020M" actually refers to the Soyuz' reentry computer.
>>
http://jalopnik.com/5883458/how-to-fly-a-soyuz-space-capsule
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>>42594763
somebody should make this as real "apps", like real clock and button as shortcut. no need for the icon
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>>42590842
How about actually looking at the instructions posted on the website along with the download link.
Here is the page for the instructions http://astronaut.ru/bookcase/article/ar-instr.htm
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>>42593922
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0TiqIjF-uk
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So a BR tranlated to our alphabet (still is in communist language):
First line:
Sud Rezhim Orient S'lizh Pritsal Manevr Kontr Aus Rus

Second Line:
R.Soi Kspl Kspp Ip Ink Bno Prvi Tranzit Ipp Bremya

Third Line:
B. Sist Kdu Spgs Skgs Str Szp Ssvp Rts Tvs Foz

Fourth Line:
Vp-Reg Vremya Opoveshch Vektor Sys Sa Inp Korr ink Zhrn

Fifth Line:
Tehn Test Sp Sluzh Dezh1 Dezh2 Otboy Zvuka

Last Line:
R.Soi F1 Kspl Kspp Ip Ink Bno Prvi Tranzit Ipp Bremya

>>/int/26099733
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>>42594415
Okay guys, had a go at OCRing some of this.

Steps:
- Invert in MSPaint to be blue and white
- Convert to b&w palette (keeps most text)
- Remove anything that isn't crylic (eg. UI lines etc)
- Chuck image through online russian OCR
- Attempt to translate small chunks at a time using Google Translate (it seems to hate large amounts)

0. dvtomdticheskdya reconciliation time RRS
1. 3Dpret control angles PC
2. 3Dpret control coordination DPO
3. 3Dpret Fe, 9
4. svpizhenie to "NdDIRNOMu" 93:19
5.
6.
7. rd3resh podkp progr SVP drove kursd
8. rd3resh vhodd in filter at ZDS and Zdo
9. rd3resh input into the filter at ZDS and rd to
10. svpizhenie in staked point
11. nmenshenie grdnitsy syringe before "-" 5 M / C
12. podkd wp corr FILTRD by p, p for p = 1
13. rd3resh 3 impvlsnoi scheme
14. Dock Z for correction FDZY
15. correction FDZY
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>>42595004

See if you can OCR the main menu, we might be able to get at least a good idea of what's going on.
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>>42595028
Okay attempting it now
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>>42594754
Never heard of it.

I thought it was because the Information Display System for the console in the Soyuz was called the Neptune.

Speaking of which, I found a overview/pseudo-manual document professionally translated into English for the Neptune IDS. A couple diagram drawings of this software interface are in it.

Not really a guide to operation, but more just how the whole thing works.
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???    ballistic and navigation support  
???? block manual entry
???? onboard digital computer complex
??? Directive
?? propulsion
??? LED navigation space
???? integrated control panel
?? measuring mode parameters
??? an indicator of spatial position
???? an indicator of manual data entry
??? combined propulsion system
?? Personnel information
??? command-signal field
?? landing
??? Ground stations
??? particularly important commands
??? manned orbital station
?? priority information
?? remote astronauts
???? remote manual entry
??? remote lander
?? radio visibility
??? fluid flow controller
??? manual control descent
??? radio system
?? lander
???? system of executive bodies
???? docking system leak test
??? information display system
???? mixed gas supply system
?? the relay satellite
???? docking system and the internal transition
??? temperature control system
??? motion control system
??? descent control system
??? Power system
??? TV system
??? telemetric information
?? transport ship
??? scoreboard alarm
??? the interface to the object
?? digital indicator
??? central alarm scoreboard
?03 Form 03 registration parameters onboard systems
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>>42595081
forgot link: http://www.cosmoworld.ru/spaceencyclopedia/publications/mks_eng.pdf
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From >>>/int/26099346

??????? fuel
?????????? stopwatch
??????????? ???? ? ????? ?? date and time set from/of
???? light
??? ????? no signal/connection/contact
????? mode
??????(????) orientation
?????(????) rapprochement/convergence
??????(?) berth/dock
?????? maneuver
????? time
??????(????) notification
?????? vector
????(??) log


>>42595111

10/5 bretty gud
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wtf /g/
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>>42594415
0. Automatic Check of time for RRP
1. Restrict Control Angles of PC
2. Restrict Control Coordinates DPO
3. Restrict (tridon omega, omega)
4. Closing in "Nadirnomu" Axies(im not a pilot, perhaps this is a pilot term)
5.
6.
7. Allow Connect Program SBL without Course
8. Allow Exit to Filter for ZAS and ZAO
9. Allow Exit to Filter for ZAS and work AO
10. Closing in to charted spot
11. Make borders V for "-" 5 m/s
12. Connect BL coordinates filter per P, P' when b=1
13. Allow 3-x impulse scheme
14. LSK-Z correction phase
15. Correction Phase
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>>42595149
Oh yes. There's random shit on english, maily at the 'credits' screen and some 'spreadsheets'.
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>>42595163

Why is that? I wouldn't imagine any stolen code in this software.
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>>42595163
credits screen?
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>>42595169
>>1990's version of the software
>>Implying it has to be stolen to be in English

You do realize this isn't the 1960s version right?
It could quite easily have had someone who spoke English working on this version of the software.
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>>42590842
>download WordLens, and point it at this picture
>it starts quickly throwing words into the grid map
>giant word placed over California that say LAVA

i fucking laughed
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>>42593827
Line 1 (About): Operation, Orientation, Distance, Berth, Maneuver, Contour, Aircraft Carrier Strike Force, Telephone Exchange

Unfortunately, the rest are basically acronyms that Wikipedia is not even bringing up...

Line 4: Time, Alerts, Vector, Content Management System, ?, ?, Correspondent, Journal
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>>42595194
yeah, see >>42591089
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>>42595195

It doesn't have to be stolen, but it's quite odd because of its inconsistency as well as the lack of English-speaking 2nd world countries.
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>>42590929
that scene was so bad

and not in the way where bad means good

in the way where bad means bad
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>>42594968
excellent point anon. it has fucking instructions:

https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ru&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fastronaut.ru%2Fbookcase%2Farticle%2Far-instr.htm
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??? ????????...
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>>42594968
>>42595266

Google translate is a piece of shit and we want the controls themselves translated.

Otherwise we get shit like >>42593922
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>>42595269
where can i buy that clock?
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>>42595326
>buying
>not building it yourself

dis guy
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>>42595326
http://pvelectronics.co.uk/
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>>42595301
did you even look at it? it's pretty fucking concise. have ivan double check, but it's better than having people guess at the abbreviated jargon in random screenshots
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>>42590966
dis nigga be wearin a iwatch fukin govermint got dat shyt before us ....... proof right here nigga..............
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>>42595243
>>Lack of English-speaking 2nd world countries
>>Not realizing English is primarily taught in a lot of Russian schools
Again, it's the 1990s or 1980s version of the software, not the 1960s.
It's very likely that some parts aren't fully coded by just Russians.
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So obviously this used an IBM compatible PC, had a floating-point unit, and ran DOS.

But what DOS do you think it ran?
Russia-localized MS-DOS?
I think it used PTS-DOS 2000.
PhysTechSoft worked for the Russian Ministry of Defense, and used PTS-DOS on the onboard diagnostic computers on the Uragan GLONASS GPS satellites.
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>>42593493
cat inpu.exe | strings
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>>42595353

The Russians who were working on this didn't speak English, but those probably might have been post-USSR additions to the software by English-speakers or they must not have given a shit at that point.

>>42595355

Likely PTS-DOS or Alpha DOS (a Soviet reverse-engineered version of MS-DOS)

Later on it was probably run on Win9x systems, but in the early '90s likely on Soviet clone hardware.
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>>42592756
>>42592762

If it was possible to debug the COM/IRQ IO calls in Dosbox we could probably actually wrap the program in a fake picture of the hardware, and have the buttons light up and be clickable.

But I have no clue how to approach this.
If someone could even get a hex dump of any IO happening it'd be quite easy from there to figure out the rest.
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>>42595362
$ strings inpu.exe
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>>42595341
how the hell you build that ?
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>>42595402
It would be too difficult because you have no working environment to sniff. You'd have to jump into the calls that check if the external hardware is functioning, and figure out what it expects, by reading the disassembled code.
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Here's my first try at compiling this shit into a translated image
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>>42595440

It's bretty easy, the only thing difficult about building with tubes is the spaghetti of wires since at least traditionally they don't use PCBs, I don't know about new hipsterclocks though.
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>>42595442
lol, was doing the same thing
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>>42595460
dont erase the original, do it like >>42595442
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>>42595440
>buy kit
>follow Lego-level instructions
>solder components
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>>42595456
>Implying I know what the hell those tubes are or how they work
I will buy it, and then learn how it works
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>>42590842
Does that dryden chick ever post anything about technology, or does she just whine about things that apply to every industry but she only chooses to address the ones in tech?
>>
>>42595471
not going to bother, his is more complete and i'm new to gimp
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>>42593323
Very jelly.
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>>42595004
good work m8
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>>42593323
>I have a purpose for this shit.
plan to build a Soyuz?
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>>42593330

It told you that you are in the area with available communications (as your spaceship entered one of two circles around Russian ground stations).
>>
>>42595362
<inpu.exe strings
>>
>>42593330
and how about oxigen and that kind of stuff?
When It was red I pressed random buttons to get it normal
>>
Clocks you may buy on the Ebay, or there:
http://radiokot.ru/forum/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=83935
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>>42595533
>implying i won't
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>>42595555
fucking unix man

that shouldn't work

it's just fucking stupid
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Much better.

Was it so fucking hard, IBM?
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>>42595342
I want that exact model
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>>42595533

m-maybe

It's a doorstop because nobody wrote software for OS/2 1.x
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>yfw reports on crashed satellites pop up tomorrow
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during loading:

title: wait
message: loading format from file C:\COLOR.SF
"empty window"

that bottom message changes quickly, maybe we could take a video and go through the frames to translate? might help in decompiling
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>>42595581
Nobody likes UNIX, but at least it's not what microsoft did to poor NT

/g/ still raves because they actually know how to use it, however
>>
neat as fuck
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>>42595603
http://www.pvelectronics.co.uk/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1&products_id=140
I was mostly attracted to the lack of seconds digits (what conventional digital clock has seconds shown?) and I can turn off the ugly-ass LEDs, among other features. I also got it with orange LEDs, so at least they match if I turn them on.
>>
http://www.myabandonware.com/game/shuttle-the-space-flight-simulator-1i7
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>>42595441
Hmm my only knowledge of doing that would be OllyDbg and IDA Pro.

Since it's running in Dosbox I think that'd fail...and someone mentioned it was packed?
So opening it directly in IDA Pro would probably fail too.
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uhm...
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>>42595701
Looks like your mount isn't setup correctly..I assume that's a "file not found" error or something similar.
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>>42595703
no its not a problem
i recorded the loading process and these were some interesting strings that showed up
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>>42595690
>Since it's running in Dosbox I think that'd fail...and someone mentioned it was packed?
>So opening it directly in IDA Pro would probably fail too.
That was me. Not only was I unable to unpack it, but IDA Pro returned with a bunch of bullshit.
My guess is that there was some other sort of encryption/archiving/exec format thing going on. Pic related.

Also, using BinText, I managed to pull some strings out. Still a lot of bullshit, but still easier than looking at a hex editor. My favorite is memory address 0x0000BFFE. It says "You are mudak!"
http://pastebin.com/t3QJ5Wnv
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>>42595581
>pipelines of programs
>"<" to read from a file
>">" to write over a file
>">>" to append to a file
>not beautiful and productive because of its composability
YOU'RE just fucking stupid.
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>>42595740
who are you quoting?
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to reset the EEPROM ??? click RESET right "??? (on?)"
when pressed key "??" and "???? (test)" or "LeftShift" and "RightShift"

also tried removing EEPROM.DAT and EEPROMSPS.DAT and the program still loaded
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>>42595719
That looks like address references for encryption chunks.

It'd probably be possible to actually find the decrypted version of this in memory by hooking onto Dosbox with OllyDbg once the program is running...but getting that decrypted content to execute would be rather difficult (would probably give some more strings though).
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>>42595828
Yeah those files are probably only used in the situation where they need to restore EEPROM data from the original dump.
Eg. if an EEPROM update fails.
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>gee, I forgot I had an 8516 touch CRT sitting on the shelf, I should try it again
>try it again
>just as it was last time
>display is fucking BLUE
>back to the trash
>pick up 8513 to put it back
>accidentally drop it on inpu disk
>tfw I'm running out of 1.44MB blanks
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>>42593406
Cosmonaut here, we actually have to turn off our eyebrows for docking as there was issues with forehead smoothness in early tests
>>
a interesting thread on /g/ ... weird.
>>
>yfw you're actually controlling actual Russian sattelites
>>
>>42595719
Found some interesting things in the pastebin.
>0000000BD308 0000000BD308 0 SPUTNIC.ICO
>000000069E17 000000069E17 0 E:\NEPTUN\RESOURCE\NEPTUN.FNT
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There is a channel on rizon now for this, #soyuz
You are free to join and help us figure this thing out. Maybe even translate it.
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>>42596266
>Rizon
>Not Freenode
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>>42596271
Oh come on, don't be that picky about it.
I'm sure you also use rizon, it's not a big deal
>>
>>42596299
Hey, this is /g/, stop being reasonable and argue with me!
>>
thanks for the entertainment OP
gotta go for now. make sure next thread is with 'inpu' in title.
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>>42592825
nor linux, *bsd, windows, amigaos, plan9,
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>>42596420
Plan 9? They were still on Plan 2.
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Bump for something cool on /g/ for once.
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>>42595627
>Nobody likes UNIX
hey

don't be a pleb
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I dumped 1MB starting at DS from the running program (which was already unpacked). No idea about the packer itself. Memory spans far beyond a 16k size and I can't work out how to dump the whole memory using dosbox's builtin debugger and I don't really have the time to recompile dosbox.

Judging from:
>ACS Multi File. Ver 1.00
And various other strings, the thing uses a virtual file system once unpacked. Couldn't find any information on it, so it's probably an in-house thing.

There's a string table for the virtual file names for all the resources used by this binary, ie:
>SUSINDEX.ICO8
>FONTEDIT.PCK
I'm sure you could dump the individual files if you work out the format of the file table and the offsets.

There are raw Russian strings (Russian DOS encoding), if you understand Russian, you can read them. There isn't a single string table which again, suggests that this is a virtual operating system running on top of DOS. (if it was a single compiled binary, you'd usually have a separate, more or less solid string table).

I've done this on the 1MB DS:0 dump as opposed to INPU.EXE which is compressed.
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>Portions Copyright (c) 1983,92 BorlandU
Looks like at least one of the modules was written in Delphi 4.0.
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>>42592033
>>42592053
>>42592067

OH SHIT VLADIMIR WE ARE FALLING
VLADIMIR WHAT ARE YOU DOING
VLADIMIR NO
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>>42595701
wait...
loading format of file C:\COLOR.SF
diagnosis, TWARE

VERTMARKERTABLE
could stand for
vertical marker table, I guess
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Oh, wait, I'm stupid.

The packer leaves the data section intact and just relocates it in the right place. Code is in fact packed but you can run the program and dump 16k at CS:0 to extract the main body of the program.
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>>42597310
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File: cp866.png (410KB, 1680x1050px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
cp866.png
410KB, 1680x1050px
Confirming that the encoding for the Cyrillic text in the executable is CP 866
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Does anyone know what font it uses?
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>>42597653
Neptune
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>>42592314
It's not banned here, I have no idea what you're talking about.

Also, I can explain everything including that magical ????, but currently am at work. Keep the thread up.
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>>42593281
Actually plenty of people are making simpits for Orbiter sim, including Soyuz ones. Orbiter lacks good and detailed Soyuz mods though.
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>>42591089
> ????-?????? (demo-version)
Is it commersial software?
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File: ??? ????.jpg (3MB, 2048x1515px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
??? ????.jpg
3MB, 2048x1515px
We are watching you, ????????.
http://2ch.pm/spc/res/114701.html
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??? = ??????????????? ?????????? ???????, same thing as ???, only automatic
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File: LELEGA.webm (1MB, 640x348px)
LELEGA.webm
1MB, 640x348px
Found something interesting.
You all have been running this on VGA/SVGA.

First of all, MDA and CGA do not work at all. I kinda thought they would due to having a MONO and a COLOR file.

It actually runs in EGA, sort of. Its missing the bottom portion of the screen. But unlike the VGA modes that have an amber color scheme, EGA uses a different one that actually has more variety in color. Webm related.

Should also mention this was only 4MB RAM, no himem or ems. I wonder if this can run in 640K? Figured PKLITE would need more to decompress, though.
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>>42599369
neat. so how did you do that? are you using an emulator or actually running it on dos hardware?

and, really stupid question, how does one get to this >>42590842 screen?
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??? ? ? ?????? ???????????
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>>42599601
An emulator, actually, so the bottom cutoff may or may not be accurate.

This emulator is Tom Walker's PCem.
Emulates older x86 PCs from the IBM 5150 with a 8088 to an Intel 430VX board.
Its kind of all over the place, but its fucking neato. Using BIOS images, you can select specific machines and video cards, even.
http://www.retrosoftware.co.uk/hg/pcem

And I'm not sure how to get to the screen OP did, I would also like to know.
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