This is the end! It’s the final countdown. All of /g/ rejoice at the coming silence!
Windows upgrades are not getting extended. Once again, you DO NOT HAVE TO KEEP 10 on your computer to keep the LICENSE. Once you upgrade it never expires. If you don’t know what to do just get the damn license and go back to 7 or 8. Problem solved.
It’s all over tommorow. So ask your questions! Rant and rave! Bitch and moan! Install gentoo! Anything goes! Let’s burn this thread to the ground!
Other questions answered:
>How do I get a free W10 license for the future but keep using 7/8 now?
>How do I stop the Windows 10 update from happening?
>How do I install W10 if it keeps messing up when I try?
>Can I go back to 7/8 if I’ve upgraded?
>How do I downgrade if my computer came with W10?
>How do I get Windows 7 to update after a clean install?
>How would I reinstall W10 in the future?
>Should I switch to Linux?
Full Expanded Post: http://pastebin.com/4LvsAFk7
Official Windows Install discs:
microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows7
microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows8
microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10
>Do you like windows 10?
No. Fuck the store. Fuck the layout. Fuck the botnet. Also fuck micrsoft for shoving it down our throats all year like they believe only cortana's shiny blue ass could save our souls from eternal torment in the fiery pits of hell.
>So why would I ever want it?
As the last separate version of windows, more and more programs will begin to require it or its (goddamn) app store, including games that require DX12 and the Xbone crossovers. Infection rates tend to be a lot lower in newer OSes, and that’s even before Windows 7 stops receiving security updates in 2020 (like that shit that went down with XP a while back), so you might want to keep your options open.
>So how do I get a license without upgrading?
You upgrade. But then you just undo it. That’s the loophole: you don't have to KEEP W10 on your computer. If you install it once, say for 5 minutes, the microsoft servers note your PC’s hardware as eligible for Windows 10 going forward, so you have a permanent "Digital Entitlement" on that computer, even if you go back to your old windows immediately.
There's 4 ways to do this…
1) The easiest method is to just upgrade to W10, then downgrade using the “Go Back” button in settings (available for 30 days).
2) If you’re specifically worried about windows messing up the install, you can make a system backup image instead with Macrium Reflect or similar, do the upgrade, then use a recovery disk to restore the image.
3) Or upgrade then clean install your old OS
4) Install W10 to a blank drive or partition then activate with your 7/8 key. Or backup/restore like option #2. Good choice for linux users who have a 7/8 key they want upgraded.
If you choose #2, make a recovery disk & a backup of your system drive. Otherwise there’s no prep, just accept the W10 upgrade. You could also download the W10 install disk if you’re having trouble with windows updater. Just click "Download tool now" to make a DVD or USB, then run it within windows. Skip downloading updates. Once W10 is installed, make sure it’s activated itself online by clicking Start> Settings> Update & Security> Activation. Make sure it says “Windows 10 on this device is activated with a digital entitlement"
With W10 activated it’s time to restore your old OS. For option #1 use the 30 day "Go Back" setting in W10 to recover your old copy of windows (stored in C:\Windows.old). To find it, click Start> Settings> Update & Security> Recovery, then hit the “Get started” button under Go back to Windows 7(or 8.1). For options 2-4 either restore your backup or reinstall your old OS. Mission accomplished.
Frequently Asked Questions:
>Digital Entitlement? What is this BS? Where's my damn key?
"KEYS? Where we're going we don't need KEYS." Most copies of W10 don’t have keys at all. A "digital entitlement" means Windows 10 is paired to your PC automatically by a digital fingerprint of its hardware. So whenever you reinstall W10 after that, even if it’s a clean install, windows will reactivate itself online by validating that fingerprint automatically.
You should probably keep a copy of the key you got with your ORIGINAL windows 7/8.1 install (usually stuck to your system case anyway), because major hardware changes can sometimes disrupt the automatic activation. In that case you would call the microsoft activation hotline and explain the situation to them. They usually correct things pretty easily, and the old key can often help with the process, which hasn't changed much since Windows 7. You might also need the old key if you decide to reinstall your original windows later on and you don't have any backups or recovery media with it pre-activated.
>If I upgrade do I lose my windows 7/8.1 license?
No, you can go back and forth as much as you want, as long as you have your old installer and key (or a backup/recovery). You're not officially allowed to have both versions of windows installed at the same time, like a dual boot or VM. The downgrade rights last until 2020 for windows 7 and 2023 for windows 8, when official support ends for the OSes.
>W10 won’t install. Something always goes wrong. How do I make it work?
Try running the install disk (above) instead.
>How do clean reinstalls work in windows 10?
All you need is that free install disk from microsoft’s site. No keys, no HP/Dell recovery partitions taking up disk space. Just run and done. No activation required (if asked for a key hit skip and it will activate automatically over the internet).
>How do I downgrade to windows 7/8.1 if my computer came with 10?
Windows 7/8.1 are available as free downgrades IF you have W10 PRO, otherwise you’re supposed to buy a copy. You’d also need to check that your core hardware has drivers for that version of windows. It's a bit complicated but here's instructions:
groovypost.com/howto/downgrade-windows-10-to-windows-7-windows-81/2/
>I'm staying on windows 7/8. How do I make the update notifications go away?
The easiest way is to use GWX Control Panel:
http://www.majorgeeks.com/files/details/gwx_control_panel.html
If you would rather block the update manually through windows instead, you can download and install update 3065987 on Windows 7, or 3065988 on Windows 8. Then save-Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\WindowsUpdate]
"DisableOSUpgrade"=dword:00000001
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\GWX]
"DisableGWX"=dword:00000001
-to a text document on your desktop named DisableOSUpgrade.reg and run it as administrator.
>I’ve reinstalled Windows 7 recently and I can’t get it to update.
When microsoft put out a new Window 7 update client, they fucked over any copy of 7 that doesn’t have it yet, including clean installs. To fix this, manually download and install updates 3102810 and 3138612 to get the ball rolling:
support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3102810
support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3138612
>Should I just start using Linux instead?
Maybe! There’s a lot to learn at first, but it can be a very rewarding experience. Linux has a knack for running very smoothly until some weird problem comes up, then it’s off to the forums. Luckily you don’t have to dive in all at once. Try running Ubuntu in Virtualbox, and if you’re still interested you can step it up to a dual boot. Backing up with Macrium Reflect is a good way to minimize risk. And after installing linux, I recommend the PPA ‘Timeshift’ as an equivalent to Windows Restore, for undoing small mistakes. Good luck!
I've finally accepted that linux is too amateurish for me and I want a slick sexy os. Anyone currently posting from their hackintosh? Post specs
the gtx 970 drives a pair of 24" 4k monitors, which basically amounts to "retina" displays. OS X has the best scaling support by about a mile.
i actually mostly use a rMBP, but this lets me use the 4k monitors at 60Hz without the laptop struggling
>>55796703
>linux
>used by all major industry actors, such as IBM, HP, Amazon, Google, Oracle
>"amateurish"
>hackintosh
>literally hobbyist projects to hack OS X into running on hardware it wasn't made for running on
>not "amateurish"
>>55796825
i think it's pretty clever how you evaluate linux's impact/footprint by all the computers running the linux kernel even though different distributions are very different from one another, but the hackintosh footprint by just the machines running that specific hardware (rather than os x in general).
Which software do I need to hack FBI???
u need a lawyer, not software
>>55796679
You have to be a big guy. It worked for cia, so it probably works for fbi too.
>>55796679
Emacs
Are there any modern interfaces which feel sturdy and are satisfying to use like software before 2005?
Compare for example, purely aesthetically, the comfiness and reliability of Windows 95 and XP to the cold glass feel of Vista and 7 or the completely apathetic flatness of 8 and 10.
Did anyone manage to keep up with the trends yet retained the quality feel of old visuals?
>>55796672
>quality feel of old visuals
a contradictionary statement
>>55796672
>Reliability of windows 95
Wew lad
nostalgia and comfiness is the cancer killing /g/
welcome to dark web
You seem to think you are a big tough guy.
You seem to think you are a big tough guy.
You seem to think you are a big tough guy.
Hello Dear techies what would some of you suggest being the best CPU cooler for FX 8350 when really pushing it?
>>55796619
What's your ultimate goal, clock speed wise, because a 212 Evo will happily handle an 8350 at 4.4-4.5
>>55796619
Any 2 fan aio.
I hit 5.2 on my h110 with the 8350
>>55796619
I've got a corsair h100i on order. And I've seen a fair few other 8350's in the /gut/s thread with them. So it cant be bad.
It's a watercooler 240mm
>init 1 bro.
What did she meant by it?
>unlevel 1 is used to get the system down into single user mode.
>tfw our hackery brotherhood isn't using systemd
>tfw no tech savvy e corp employee father to teach me how to code
>>55796591
They are Hollywood actors that probably have never used anything but a macbook pro in their entire lives.
>>55796591
Runlevel 1 is for single user no mount, no network mode usually. Used for administrative tasks without internet connectivity. I haven't seen the episode so I can't tell what it is about. If they are talking about their own personal computers, they are probably avoiding multiuser and network connectivity for some security on OS level, if they are talking about a remote server running connected services it'll f shit up senpai.
>>55796670
This reply is pure autism.
>>55796761
this whole website is autism including your post and my reply.
I just found a thinkpad t420+lenovo mouse for 180 yuropoor online, its like new. Is it a good price /g/ ? Pic kinda related
>>55796589
>/tpg/
>>55796806
>Can write /tpg/
>Can't answer my question
Fuck off m9
So after spending a month trying to decide what laptop to buy, I've started to wonder if anything mobile can even provide a compelling power user experience. Should resource intensive tasks be kept on the desktop?
Apple's most expensive product is clearly not good enough for certain types of production, just as Microsoft's is not. Alienware laptops do not count since they are just small cramped desktops.
>>55796565
What sorts of production are you talking about? Obviously in an ideal world you'd have a workstation for the vast majority of your work and then use laptops for smaller tasks and edits on the road.
>>55796578
I'm saying there is a point where processing power is needed. You can run Excel and Office on literally anything, and probably Fruity Loops or other business software.
Devices are marketed as empowering the consumer but they don't seem to actually be powerful enough to do 3D stuff, rendering, or graphic design. What does powerful even mean in the mobile world since even the top offering can't match a $100 dedicated desktop GPU? Why do we have i7s in laptops or expensive graphics cards that are awful compared to desktop and do nothing but drain power and underperform?
>>55796640
Well it's the illusion of power imo. If you're on the road and need to do something professionally you'll work within whatever limitations your system has to get it done or lose your jobs. I've worked with people that have been rendering stuff in blender on a fucking MacBook Air because that's what's available.
I work in music so I can really only comment on that. There are shows run entirely on 8 year old hardware, tablets or bloody Mac mini's.
It's easy to get suckered in to believing that power is the problem solver so we have ridiculous devices like the surface book when 9 times out of 10 your problem will be due to stability, something an i7 won't solve.
Basically I agree with you completely and it's telling that these devices are touted as empowering the consumer, rather than the professional. It's the same reason people bought 4K TVs when there was no content.
I need a second opinion, /g/.
I'm cleaning a laptop and will use it as both a personal (programming) laptop and for administering a 20-computer Windows network at work. It currently has Windows 8, the standard edition, installed with a hopefully legit license.
Basically, I could do one of three things:
1) Do a clean install of Windows 8 with this license
2) Do a clean install of Windows 10 with this license
3) Ask management for a new Windows 8 or 10 Pro license
3) Install Fedora or something and maybe put Windows in a VM for when I need it
I can't decide. What would you do?
Well if you like not having any good software use lincucks but you will get burned out on it after a week when you realize you have to enter a dozen commands to do simple tasks.
Install Windows 10 alongside your Distro of choice with dual boot.
>>55796559
Don't listen to >>55796743, he's a FUSS spreading faggot. Lubuntu is an excellent distro for a beginner, and you never need to use commands. Even if you run into trouble, that's what the Ubuntu Forums are for.
Anyone /nogapps/ here? How to go about with apps that require play services? And what app store do you use?
>>55796558
The Google Play Store.
Stop being a faggot and just install it.
>>55796736
Fuck off, Google shill
if u buy a smartphone means u are social so if ur social means u have a facebook if u have a facebook u need whatsapp if u wanna use whatsapp u need playstore and to use playstore u need gapps
So, /g/, should I buy a notebook with a 960m in like half of the year? Or should I wait for year or so? It seems enough for me but then what if on the next day after the purchase there will be a brand new better card with the same cost?
Is there any information about a new generation from nvidia?
My apologies for poor language.
Pascal mobile GPU soon, would skip and get that instead
>>55796529
Seeing how 960 is literally 860 (which I have) with a higher clock, I dunno.
It plays about everything new on high/medium @1080p, so if you're into games about everything is at least playable.
If you want hardcore 4k experiences n such, I'd wait. 10xxM series should be coming out in the following months.
http://www.fool.com/investing/2016/07/28/nvidia-corporation-may-be-planning-to-introduce-mo.aspx
http://www.geforce.com/hardware
GTX 750 Ti end of life and discontinued, removed from product list
GTX 1050 & GT 1040 probably incoming soon
>MFW just upgraded from a 550 to a 750 that I found in the carpark next to the bins
>he uses third-party chargers
>he cares about what charges people use
>>55796398
>he likes his touchscreen malfunctioning
Installed deepin a couple of weeks ago. Was very reluctant at first cause China, cause not very popular. But I was impressed and still am. It is simply amazing! Stable, everything is thought-through, the store is wow. Stongly reccomend!
This is how Gnome3 and Unity should have been like.
>china
>>55796346
So what? It is your argument against using it?
>>55796331
The only missing thing, a thing that would make deepin 100% amazing is built in touchegg.