I don't see how they can possibly recover. I think this was their last shot.
My take is they'll just slowly wither until one of the big most relevant players like Samsung or Qualcomm decides to buy them out.
>>59211547
They'll be kept afloat by their retarded fans who sacrifice their cash for "competition"
>>59211624
You mean consoles?
>>59211547
what are you talking about, They just won.
I highly doubt it's possible, but can we have a discussion thread where the following terms are banned: shill, jew, goyim, btfo, rekt, suicide watch, housefires, jewtel, manchild, cuck, amdrones,etc.
So I'm very ready to buy a cpu. Half my parts for my new build are here. Earlier today I cancelled my 1700x / x370 prime pre-order.
I admittedly am 80% gamer, 15% productivity, 5% shitting around the web. After the NDA lift and all the third party reviews hitting I think it could be said that there's a general consensus that the current release Ryzen chips are not bargains for the enthusiast gamer.
I personally have been an AMD fan since my first 700mhz Athlon in 2000. Currently I'm on my aging FX8320 which despite all the bad wrap bulldozer chips got, it has sufficed for my rig since 2012 and still plays most games fine for me. The only things I've found to be drug down badly by it are Star Citizen(unoptimzed) and Planetside 2 in big fights.
I really want Ryzen to be good not just because I'm an AMD fan but for a competitive market again in CPU's.
I do think the 1700/1800 cpu's are a bit of a flop for the predominantly gamer crowd.
However I think Ryzen's saving grace will be the 6core and especially 4core versions. I don't see them performing much differently in most games than the 8 core cpus. Considering these will likely be $120-260 chips I think they will be great values and worth picking up for the sake of gaming over an Intel chip.
It's not that the 1700/1800 perform bad in games on their own - but next to their similar priced Intel competition they fall short.
So I think the lower priced 4c and 6c chips will save Ryzen for the gaming market.
That said though, I have everything bought now and have my current computer sold next weekend so I think I'm going to make the plunge and pick up at 7700k.
Anyone else have a similar outlook for the future of Ryzen?
>>59211541
op here, also with that said though - I think Intel will still be the main choice for the absolute top end of the gaming market
>>59211576
Yea well no shit, AMD has nothing that can beat the i7-6950X.
>>59211595
I should have specified high end rather than top end.
I'm thinking the $300-500 crowd which is still a LOT of $ to drop on a CPU just for gaming.
In that range I think Intel will maintain that dominant market and AMD will fall behind. However the 4c and 6c chips might be able to secure them a VERY good portion of the average gaming crowd assuming their price points are where people are expecting.
Why is installing Arch so complicated?
Is it even worth it? should I just install a different distro?
inbf4: gentoo lmao
>>59211437
>installing a distro for "advanced"user known for being hard to install
>whines about it being hard to install
do you hate milk taste like milk too?
Arch-anywhere is a protip. You can choose DE and preinstalled packages.
Windows 10 doesn't have this problem.
Guys what do we do now Intelbros.
This is another shoah
>>59211186
fake
I know, we should post 1366x768p , that's more important than 4k, we're not poorfags I swear.
But do remember to buy Kabylake for that 4k netflix, the gaming performance is a-a-a-almost as g-g-good...
>>59211216
Lower resolutions are more taxing on the CPU
>>59211186
AMD game, at the high resolution gpu bottleneck they wanted no surprise
coolermaster might be the dumbest bunch of fucks I've ever encountered. I got a HAF XB Evo this week and the hot swipe drive cages have a SATA power male connector on the back side instead of female molex. So yeah the obvious solution would be just pick up a 6 Pin PCIe to SATA power female to connect to it, but as far as I can tell the only one in existence is the one that came with my msi graphics card. I've searched and can't find one,
any ideas
>>59211140
don't buy a meme nsu
>>59211432
what?
>>59211140
You do realize you can make your own cables? Crimper tools are under $20 and some wire, pins and connectors aren't that much either. Otherwise stop being a poorfag and buy from companies like SuperMicro. pic related
>order CPU from Amazon with two-day delivery
>item supposed to be delivered today by 8:00pm
>it's 7:40pm
>package still isn't here
Can I get anything if the package is late?
My eyes are gettin weary
>>59211099
If you give me your facebook I'll send you dick pics.
Sue them
Will the day ever come when LibreOffice is just as good as MS Office?
>>59211060
What does MS office have that LibreOffice not?
>>59211060
Probably the day they get payed developers. It's not too bad as it is, althought the interface suck (I actually like ribbon)
>>59211331
LibreOffice is adding a ribbon UI. Thank God.
Why are used thinkpads more recommended than Chromebooks on here? For $210, you can get a new Chromebook with a decent processor, a 1080p IPS screen, a good keyboard, an upgradable SSD, excellent battery life, good build quality, and it's new and has a warranty unlike some old thinkpad that you salvaged from a dumpster behind an office building. Used thinkpads are thick, have shitty TN screens, battery life is worse, etc etc. Women also won't think you're some freak using a computer that looks like it's from the 90s if they see you with a Chromebook.
>inb4 muh Chrome OS botnet
Installing another Linux distribution takes 5 minutes.
>Palmrest
Glad my new Chromebook comes with a palmrest! I was a bit concerned it didn't, given the shit build quality of any off-the-shelf $200 machine. ThinkPad or bust, faggot. Reliability doesn't lie.
>>59210742
Plastic piece of trash
>>59210851
Chromebooks are the most reliable platforms to ever be released. They just work. Not much except for a few niche programs that probably only your (((employer))) has seats for on a desktop or the company's laptop.
If you want a computer for gaymen you should kys.
The Nintendo Switch is confirmed to be running FreeBSD as it's OS, this is the third console to run FreeBSD as it's main
>PS4 ran off FreeBSD
>Vita ran off of parts of NetBSD and ran off the FreeBSD kernel
>Nintendo switching over to the dark side
UNIX wins again.
>>59210527
>>/v/
>>59210527
Allow me to interject for a moment, what you're referring to as "UNIX" is actually UNIX-like. More precisely, since there isn't a UNIX-like kernel (or a UNIX kernel for that matter), what you meant to says was "FreeBSD wins again".
Freebsd is not Unix.... Lol
G502 or G900 mouse & why?
The g402 really is such a cute mouse.
>>59210508
I prefer my G900 over my 502 simply because of the side buttons. You can have all four active at once which is really nice and surprisingly usable. Mechanically they are the same though, or I can't really tell the difference in any case. And then there is the added benefit of wireless on top of that, which is why I bought it in the first place. Again I couldn't tell any immediate difference between the two, the wireless function on the G900 works just as well as the wired function on itself or the 502, which is nice. And the G900 looks way better to me, more aggressive without the added and unwanted blue accent on the 502.
>>59210508
502 all the way.
Wireless suck in many ways
This thread is about the appreciation of watches, as well as the micro-engineering and materials engineering that are required to make a fine watch.
>Required Viewing For Newbies:
https://youtu.be/_2J5phyd9J4
>Strap Guide:
http://pastebin.com/SwRysprE
Previous thread:
>>59202177
can we talk about clocks too
>>59210481
sure
>>59210481
r8 my clock
+1/-1 second over 10,000 years
How do I make Firefox look good?
>>59210452
Install a good theme like FT DeepDark and get the omnibox plugin.
>>59210452
Install Gentoo
>mugi
>black ice cream bar
checks out
In reality, how important are Windows updates to your overall security? I hear some people really play it up as it you're basically a sitting duck for getting hacked if you don't let Windows update run amok. At the same time, I hear people say they run a completely clean installation of Windows 7 without any updates.
I mean, is the Windows OS really so fundamentally flawed that it has to constantly get security patches in order to remain usable?
>Windows Vista came out 11 years ago
>>59210360
You already have all ports on any router automatically blocked.
The OS itself has many ways to break it with physical access but over the internet it's fine, for the most part.
The updates mostly fix shit like: If a user does X he can circumvent samba security and access settings to access a file share on the local network without this update.
>>59210360
>In reality, how important are Windows updates to your overall security?
0%
Why is this allowed?
Jesus Christ. Who would do this?
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>>59210294
tok
To all software devs/ webdevs/ serious hobbyists/ people who pretend to know how to code:
Scrot your ACTUAL workflow.
Code and compile.
>>59210216
By workflow I mean what is your set up for the "code and compile" process. I'm curious as to how peopl more experienced than myself get work done.
>>59210174
: ^)