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post your component list; rate other anons'; ask questions in general.
>Assemble your parts list with price comparisons & compatibility filter.
https://pcpartpicker.com/
THEN state the PURPOSE of your PC & BUDGET. State COUNTRY if not USA.
List GAMES/SOFTWARE you use often. List resolution & hz if gaming.
Seeking build improvements? Clarify goal: lower price or improved specs?
ctrl+f to see if your question was answered already
>How to assemble a PC, select components & more. (somewhat outdated)
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Build_a_PC
CPUs:
>G4560 - budget builds (<$500) unless G4600/G4620/i3-7100 is heavily discounted
>R5 1500x - generally all you need for 60fps with power to spare. No i5
>R5 1600 - best value for higher fps gaming & mixed usage; 1600x if you too lazy to OC
>R7/Xeon/Threadripper/ - compute/Multitask/mixed use
Graphics:
>G4560 iGPU is fine for desktop stuff and very light game
>1050Ti for low budget. Drop settings if not Freesync/Gsync on newer games; RX560 if discounted <$90
>RX570 4GB - 1080p@60+hz, running most maxed; older games at 144+hz
>RX580 8GB - 1440p@60+hz, inject SMAA & drop settings
>1060 - Generally outperformed by the RX 580 and GSync costs more; consider if AMD is not an option (ie CUDA/miners buying all RX400/500s)
>1070 - if on sale/can't afford 1080
>1080 - 1080p@100-144+hz maxed; 1440p at lower hz.
>1080Ti - 1440p@90-144+hz; 4k@60hz in SOME games, more at lower settings
General:
>READ PRODUCT REVIEWS to see if that cheap SSD/PSU or whatever is reliable
>Consider larger SSD-only for what you budget SSD+HDD combined. Add HDD later once needed
>NVMe aren't for faster OS boot. They're primarily for productivity/scratch disk/VMs
>Stop confusing any M.2 drive with NVMe. M.2 is a form factor
>mATX board + case is often cheaper
>1 SR DIMM is slower than 2 DIMMs
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Can I get some feedback on my build, about to pull the trigger. It is intended for 1080p 60fps gaming on medium-ultra settings depending in the game.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pCxWvV
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>>60921373
I think you'll be happy with it, but I'd get a modular UPS personally
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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6W92wV
Basically what I'm looking at starting, the Mobo and ram (yes I want 16) are just what I pulled of Logical Increments so I'm open to changes, I only ever lurk when I'm building or buying parts so how is the 7700k with 1080 ti for 4k?
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how does cpu binning work? how can a cpu be less efficient or less fast than the other ones but still actually work?
does every single transistor have to work to make a working cpu?
if not how is that possible
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>>60921316
>how can a cpu be less efficient or less fast than the other ones but still actually work?
How can a car be less efficient or less fast than others but still actually work?
At the end of the day a digital device still relies on analog electrical principles which are dependent on the quality of the base silicon and the structures grown on it. Mass manufacturing isn't perfect and similar to sifting out different grades of sugar with mesh screens, you sift out shit chips from good ones through testing.
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>>60921316
Extremely slight differences in the distances between some transistors can cause them to leak state into adjacent transistors and cause errors at sufficiently high voltages.
Also, many CPU and GPU lines are made to be modular internally so that one internal module fails (like a core or a section of memory), it can be independently disabled and routed around, leaving the rest of the chip functioning with one less module.
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Chemical etching isn't an exact science. You know what is roughly going to happen, but you don't know the specifics until you test further.
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just a reminder
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>>60921240
Fur wat
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the end of the era of 14xxxxxxxxxxx
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>>60923661
I still don't get it
Can I "stealth seed" on my university's server?
I don't need to actually upload shit, just keep the torrents on to gain points
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Why bother? Just write a script that replays the client's announce request. You don't need to even run the actual client, just make the http requests so the tracker thinks you're seeding
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>>60921191
if you're trying to get ahead on a private tracker, you really need to get a seedbox.
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>>60921191
*braps in 2d*
Let's say I want to get Windows 10 for the DirectX12 memes. LTSB de-botnetted would be the way to go, correct?
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>>60921185
just fucking get pro and download one of the hundred of debotnet tools online.
If you can't do that stay on a non updated win 7 and hope you don't get something like wannacry
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>>60921260
i dont want wannacry :^(
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>windows
>de-botnetted
lel
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How do you guys pronoun, your favorite coder, "Pajeet"?
For me it paheeet
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>>60921126
>Daddy
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>>60921126
>paheeet
are you mexican?
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>>60921126
That image never fails to make me laugh for a good five minutes.
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Google's Pixel Tablet 2017-06-16 02:24:51 Post No.60921089
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What went wrong?
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>>60921089
>Tablet in the name
Should be self explanatory.
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>>60921107
iPads are selling well tho
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>>60921089
haha, thanks for reminding me these actually exist.
What was google thinking.
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what's something cool to do with a vps
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>>60920943
>whut kl things cn i do wif my new computah?
>>>/g/sqt
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>>60921005
kys
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>>60920943
For starters delete this thread
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How does /g/ feel about this fag destroying an innocent thinkpad? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0h70N6rsZ4
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>T42
nothing of value lost
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>>60920892
not happy
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All these threads arguing over firecux vs botnet cancer...
>Not fetching web pages from other sites by sending mail to a program that fetches them, much like wget, and then mails them back.
>Not then using a web browser, unless it is easy to see the text in the HTML page directly.
>Not usually trying lynx first, then a graphical browser if the page needs it (using konqueror, which won't fetch from other sites in such a situation).
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>>60920722
Please look in the catalog next time, there is already a thread you can use >>60885202
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>>60920722
Isn't that what stallman does?
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>>60920878
https://stallman.org/stallman-computing.html
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>B/s IN comes up and then comes back down
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So I just bought an HTC 10 for $240. Online articles said that as non-sprint customer I could just walk in to a store and pick it up unlocked. However when I finally found a sprint store that had them, they wouldn't sell unless I signed up for plan.
I still bought the phone outright, and the plan is month-to-month so no contract commitment, however, the JEWS refuse to unlock my phone so I'm stuck paying $55 a month for shit service.
How do I gas the jew in this case? Is there a way to unlock the phone without having to wait the supposed 55 days period?
Also, can I root and flash a custom rom even though the phone is locked? If I do that, can I still unlock the phone afterwards?
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>>60920200
lol sprint?
Hopefully you have plenty of hotspots near by.
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>>60920421
>lol sprint?
I actually said that when they tried to sell me the plan.
Thing is, the phone is $650+ everywhere else, so at $240 it's a steal, except now, it's more like $340 with the mandatory sprint shit until I can unlock and go back to TIng.
Fucking sprint man..... just the bloatware is killing me. I boot up the phone for the first time and I got 78 fucking apps that can't be uninstalled without rooting.
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>>60920200
>htc10
>$240
where? been looking for one sine my M8 is dying
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Intel has replaced the Ringbus connectivity architecture with "Mesh" in Skylake-SP and Skylake-X, after finding Ringbus scaling weaknesses post Broadwell-EP.
"Mesh" is designed principally to be both more scalable, and have lower latency than Ringbus. Thanks to extensive interconnects, it allows for performance bottlenecks to be better circumvented, resulting in lower frequencies and voltages for the same performance. In addition, "Mesh" can allow LLCs across the CPU to be unified into a larger pool without significant performance penalties, creating shared, collective access.
>https://itpeernetwork.intel.com/intel-mesh-architecture-data-center/
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>>60920790
What will be interesting to see is how much better it will be for power consumption over ringbus.
Interesting how modern silicon design is trending toward slower and less power while offering wider data channels whether it's GPUs or CPUs.
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Doubts of this design decision, while it is better than the legacy ringbus, it's still something used for KNL, which meant low per node bandwidth per design, clocking it higher is less than efficient now that's it's connecting far beefier cores.
We'll see how it turns out, this was only really a problem for 20+ core CPUs.
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A mesh? Like some sort of fabric?
Give me an idea for the worst software build you can imagine that can be done right now
so far the best i got is:
systemd.js - systemd compiled with emscripten
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VirtualBox or Hyper-v
What's better and why?
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Are you going to be using more than one VM regularly?
Hyper-V
Do you just need one or two alternate environments for testing purposes?
VirtualBox
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>>60920761
agreed
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