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Can a true Utopia ever exist with those who are weak or stupid,

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Can a true Utopia ever exist with those who are weak or stupid, /fitlit/? Is it truly our responsibility to create a world for the plebs and weaklings, or is it acceptable to cast them away for the good of the community?

I can think of no practical Utopia that does not include a method of removing those who are detrimental, despite being supposed visions of paradise.

But can such a place still truly be called a Utopia, if it is hellish or damning for those undesirable elements?
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>>30671
Look at Brave New World. Their society created lower specimens to do all the dirty work, and they were raised to love their place in society.

BNW is the perfect utopia. This isn't disputable
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>>30671
We are equal in that someone will view anyone of us as a plebiscite or a weakling.
If we can improve the lesser, then the whole becomes greater for it, and they will depend less and less on our aid and more in their own strengths.

Make no mistake. What I wrote is not utopian by any means, but it is something.
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>>30732

The intellectuals raised up from the masses are removed from society and kept from breeding, because the system sees them as a threat to it's stability, and thus the population stagnates.

This cannot be Utopia
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utopia impossible.
the closest thing you can ever get is perfect liberty and freedom.
but men thrive on struggle and challenge.
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There is and can be no "utopia." The book is about a fictional place.
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