>look through fb feed >see this dude is shredded too why

technically it's true, genetics is one of the biggest factors in anything. I mean it's either genetics or environment.

>>35201517
Might be because it's true

>>35201517
he's right. dude prolly has great insertions.

Anyone can become bigger than 99% of the population by trying harder than all of those people, but your maximal potential is determined by genetics. All pro bodybuilders try their hardest, so that's certainly not going to give you an edge.

I'd say it's 1% genes and 99% what you do, but in competitive circuts where everyone does their best it becomes 100% about genes. The same goes for olympic sports, or academic achievement.

>>35201517
He's not talking about fat genetics, muscle building potential is a real thing though, also insertions, a fucked up chest gap like the green vegan goblin isn't going to win any prizes

roids matter more than genes

>>35201654

not if you want to be a professionell bodybuilder.

have fun winning anything if you have shit insertions, WHICH YOU CANT CHANGE, while the other guy is on the same ammount of roids but has great insertions...

>>35201654

Response to gear is heavily influenced by genes.

But he's right, OP.

>>35201654
All bodybuilders use top tier steroids so it comes down to who has the best genetics.

>>35201517
He's saying bodybuilding, not lifting. If you don't have those huge 23"+ shoulders before lifting, you can't make it in the Olympia. If you don't have 10/10 insertions, you can't make it. If you don't put on mass like a fucking madman without roids, you won't make it.

He's probably annoyed at people acting like he should compete, or like they could look like Arnie if they lifted.

He's right. Can have as much mass as you want, if you have bad insertions you'll still look like shit

>>35201654
>>35201654
>>35201654
>>35201654
This fucking oath.You get roid heads that act like roids aren't magic in a bottle.They seriously are B-b-but its hard training.No it isn't you faggot.That shit is the closest thing to magic.Someone post the study showing that someone who roids and sits on his arse makes more muscle than someone natty who eats well and lifts.

>>35202114
And that study literally didnt calculate how much LBM they gained. just overall mass. test bloats the shit out of you.

>>35201597
Exactly. Being in the top 1% is easy for anyone regardless of genetics. He's talking about the top 0.001% who compete against each other at that level it is mostly genetics that determines how far you can go. Anyone can be aesthetic, not everyone can be a world class bodybuilder.

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>>35201654
>there are people THIS dumb giving you 'advice' on /fit/

>>35201654
you wouldn't happen to presently be located on a giant upside-down island in the middle of the fucking nowhere, would you?

>>35202114
That study was poorly interpreted by /fit/ people, and it's proof that giving citations doesn't mean shit if you don't understand them.

As >>35202123 said, it didn't say how much muscle they gained, it said how much they gained overall. It's also not possible to control what those people did in their day to day lives.

Roids also need an excellent diet, they're not magic, and you still won't gain weight if you don't have more energy coming in than you're expending, and you need a lot more protein.

>>35201517
because its 100% true u hungry skele?

>>35202114
If you honestly believe this you have some more reading to do. Learn to form your own opinions rather than repeating rubbish you heard from someone else.

The study you're talking about, the untrained individuals on 600mg/test E for 20 weeks gained 17lbs of lean body mass and lost 4.5lbs of fat. Test E makes you gain around 10lbs in water weight alone which they added to the LBM total. This is with virgin receptors.

Consider the fact these guys would have completely atrophied once they stopped injecting too. Wow, great gains.

The difference between a top natural and a top moderate AAS user is about 20lbs lbm total. That is at the absolute peak. 20 pounds. At the top.

Try injecting some Test and see how well you outdo someone natural who actually lifts. I'd love to see how much gains you make. Faggot.

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>>35201517

Are you genuinely implying that genes don't play a major role in body composition?

>mfw edgy boys fall for /fit/ shitposting