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/OWG/ - A thread for the discussion of weightlifting and all things related. Keep the insults and shitposting to a minimum.

>Happy Ending Edition

>If you are new to weightlifting please read these first and check the other sources they link to before asking questions:
http://pastebin.com/1HgVcGam
http://pastebin.com/wCXeXfkk
http://www.chinfl.blogspotco.uk/2013/07/how-into-weightlifting.html
http://www.reddit.com/r/weightlifting/wiki/faq
http://www.iwf.net/doc/technical.pdf
http://yashathoughts.com/

>The information that you are looking for is probably in the above links.
That includes routines, shoes, information on the lifts, etc. Check out the pastebins for literature or the reddit faq for general information.

Included in this youtube playlist are videos related to weightlifting which you may find useful or insightful:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCl3WCm2GfvLxvH877oJ1xEA/playlists

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>>35149832
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if I squat 125kg and deadlift 180kg, at what weight should I clean pull?

I need a reference senpaitachi
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>>35168495

Whatever weight you can complete the rep scheme your program demands with good form...

For sets of five i normally go 110% of my CJ. Your deadlift has nothing to do with your clean pulls.
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>>35168468
>tfw you will never have oly friends to go to normie gyms with and amaze everyone with your strength.
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>>35168588
the thing is im still new and focusing on technique with light weights, but I already got the pull variation tech down so I want to go heavy on that
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>>35168772

Caught a normie mirin' my poverty snatch singles (65kg) the other day.

Felt bittersweet, i know my lifts are shit but still got a boost from his mire.
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how do I achieve those lateral triceps like mohamed ehabs
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>>35168996
Happened to me in gym one of the cardio bunnies everyone spaghettis about came over and said I was squatting loads of weight and I literally almost said 'y-you too'
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>>35168996
God I love that, two normies were mirin my jerk the other day and it's only 80kg

One said "whoa"
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how tall is Mattie? need to know for a school project.
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God damn that looks like it feels good.

>>35169232

French press, throwbacks, landmine push-ups, cable push downs, cable overhead throws, etc etc
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>>35170003
5'7"
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>>35168468
10KG PRON SNATCH LADS
figured out what i was doing wrong in the pull and snatched 90kg, old pr was 80kg i'm so fucking happy
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>>35168495

Bruh you need to work on your quads with that large of a discrepancy
Also don't exceed 110% of clean for clean pulls until you really get the mechanics down
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>>35168588
>Your deadlift has nothing to do with your clean pulls.

yeah the musculature involved is very different
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I can squat 85kg but almost killed myself trying to bench 47.5kg, should I kill myself? 73kg male
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>>35170076
Good job man! Weight?
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>>35168495
You need to squat more, there's a huge disparity between your clean and deadlift. My max back squat is 130kg and I deadlift 150kg, clean pull with good form is probably around 115kg.
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>>35170208
80 kg.
i've been stuck on 80kg max snatch for like 4 months, i did a shitton of muscle snatches today and after like 3 hours i tried to pull without a rebend and it felt really natural. did 85 and 90 first try, tried 93 but i snashed the bar on my head and stopped.
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>>35170127

The mechanics are.
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>>35168468
>you will never have a latino manlet minion massaging you jumping on your body

no homo
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>>35170129
I can bench 70kg and can only squat 65kg, i'd much rather be @ your stats, you can bench 60+ in ~1-2 month easily if you eat plenty
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>>35170129
No

Train more

And post this shit in plg not owg

That's what you should do.
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>>35168996
>>35169745
lol wow that's pathetic
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>>35170129

Nobody here bench presses, ask /shitfit/
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>>35168468

>Your gym bros would never do this for you
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>>35170068
strong, gorgeous, and tall.
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>>35170492

no u
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>>35170453
>latino
>mohamed ehab
>latino
breh..
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>>35170519
location?
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>>35170916
yes
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why isn't randall j strossen a meme? he's moderately well known, has nice material, and a loud memevoice

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rl3Vldo7x4c
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>>35171568
We like Randall here, his voice is comfy as fuck
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>>35170127
The pull is very different, but a lot of the required musculature is similar.
Based Clarence still deadlifts frequently afaik
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20kg jump from october to december in competition total. If I make another 20kg jump for westerns I could win my weightclass!!!!
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>>35171891
just need to up the dosage, lad
:^)
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>>35171891
do they test you guys at all

also how do you feel to be a living meme here due your usage
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>>35171891
123/160
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>>35171907
>>35171940
how do you feel to being a living meme of your faggotry?
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>>35168949
>already got the pull variation tech down
kek
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>>35172084

>getting mad on 4chan
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#2 was pretty close. Maybe if i was a belt cvck i would have had it
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>>35172266
This was kind of nasty
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>>35172266
>>35172284
nice attempt to hide it by dimming the lights

i know you're still doing that shit you asshole
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>>35172349
you cant prove anything fuck you
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>>35172360
>you cant prove anything
i just did

try slipping that shit past me again and you're gonna get it

watch it, boy
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http://www.awf.com.au/merchandise/productdetails.aspx?productid=12

Any aussies tried these out? They recently restocked and I'm pretty tempted by the price.
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>>35172349
>>35172423
what am I exactly looking at here
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>>35172428
yes
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>>35172452

a small-scale meth lab
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>>35172466
they any good?
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Do Olympic lifters do bodybuilding work for their lower body or does that sort of just come about from all the squats? I have some damn weak and small quads and just wanna smash them for a month or two but I'm not sure if that will just happen as long as I'm training for Olympic Lifting?
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>>35172579
>Do Olympic lifters do bodybuilding work

You mean Useful Assistance Exercises?
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>>35172713
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>>35172579
do wl'ers have big quads?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgU6LWt32A8

Damn is rich such a bad liar.
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>>35172579
no.
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>>35172842

Quiero tocar su culo
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>>35172842
Lydia is best
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>>35172842
looks like a guy desu
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>>35172842
she's a big guy
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>>35171177
>tfw can't move elbows that fast because of back tightness
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>>35171891
>elbow not locked out
>on roids
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>>35171891
Gj lad, I'm mirin hard, you look like you could do more, maybe not today, but I don't think you've come close to how good you'll get
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>>35172061
>160
Jesus thats pretty impressive durkz. Good fucking job bro
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Trying to keep the bar closer on snatches. What complex would help? Sn deadlift + snatch at ~80% then maybe some heavier singles at 85% after that to make sure the tech is good?

Also what cue do you guys use in descending in the squat? Is it bad to cue knees out? That's the only way I can fit my hips between my legs
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>>35174060
muscle snatches read the blog post about it in OP
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>>35174082

I already do those. In fact those are what has caused me to worry that I am not keeping the bar close enough, because now in my regular snatches I never make contact with the bar unless I'm doing 85%+
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>>35174093
set your back tight, engage the lats by pulling the chest up

try low hang snatch like torokhtiy does them, set the back before you lower the bar and maintain it or try the klokov method

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGj5mXCpy6w
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>>35174156

oh these definitely help, thanks brah
any tips on squatting re: my post?
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>>35174178
knees out hips out like you would for power jerk or anything really

pent made a post about this a few months ago, everyone teaches it this way except americans

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BM6Azbs6sZE

watch aukhadov power snatch
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>>35174178
Not him, but for me, squatting solves itself if I just keep a tight core, and my hips "engaged".
If I start worrying about knees and shit, it just becomes a mess. If I "pull my ribcage down", keep my shoulders retracted, and my lats enganged, the rest just comes naturally, as long as I can also keep my hips and glutes at least somewhat active.
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>>35174211

thanks, I'll look through the archives for his post

>>35174213

yeah that's kind of what happened, I started worrying about stuff and now I can't remember what I'm doing anymore
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>>35174060
Why not a whole lot of snatch pull (like torikhtiy) or paused snatch or hang snatch
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>>35174211
are you american
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>>35174213
D e s u lad I agree, that video in the playlist about squatting was revolutionary for me, I just focus on staying tight and keeping my chest up, the rest seems to sort itself out for me
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>>35174241
That was way back I don't think an archive of it exists anymore

Just watch the torokhtiy backs squat vid
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>>35174269

the torokhtiy one?

>>35174272

ok yeah I couldn't find it
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>>35173926
noooo. those are my goals for next comp!
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>>35173926
I almost had 153 though
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Only got 3 or 4 hours of sleep last night. Also have to take two full days off because i'm going to a viewing and funeral.
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Anybody here have any experience running the LSUS/Pierce 10-5-3-Peak program?

>http://www.builtforthisathletics.com/apps/blog/show/32744517-the-lsus-program-aka-pierce-10-5-3-peak

Reflections? Criticisms? Modifications you found helpful?
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>>35174365

how come you always pause in the hole?
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>>35174512
he's thinking about what face to make next before he stands it up for full weightlifting effect
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>>35174365
>i'm going to a viewing and funeral.
yeah

your own

if you don't stop this shit you fucking psycho
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>>35174512
I dont know, it's not weakness just maybe should cue to get out quicker.
>>35174520
>>35174721
I dont know how to respond to this but keep up the good work
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>>35174286
Jerzy gregorik for squats
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bYF1dQwbDE
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Snatched 115 today but it was disgusting and now my hips hurt

Also started smolov again yesterday so that might have something to do with it
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>>35175107
Kg?
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>>35175107
You need to show us your lifts bb. What bw?

You attempted a pr of snatch on the first day of smolov?
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>>35175119
Yuh

>>35175130
I attempted 112 at my meet yesterday and shanked it hard, but I still felt springy the next day when I started my training cycle.

Vids soon

91kg bw
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>>35175170
U were at the ao?
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>>35175283
Local meet
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>first week of new training cycle
>low weight high volume
>mfw 4 rep snatches
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>>35172428
I had the exact same type except from the Queensland association. Were fine to lift in, had them for a year before I got nike's. Didn't really degrade or anything in that time.

Only problem was that I had to get the strap shortened cause it caught under my foot a few times, that was only about $10 though.
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>>35174512
>>35174512
Getting his balance idiot
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What's the way to go about posting form check vids? webms, youtube?
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>>35175754
Whatever you want but webms are more convenient.
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>>35175475

I don't get it man. I mean I realize he's a trip but I mean why do you have to be offensive for no reason. I was hoping to come back here and find more mellow energy but nope
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>>35175881
he's a mad guy
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Is there a way to go back and watch iwf houston?
I was busy and completely missed it and I can only find a few clips on ATG and hookgrip.
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>>35175772
thanks. link is power cleans at ~60kg. DL is currently 115 for reps (calculated 130 max)

As far as I can tell:
>feet are okay, I have a slight jump back but I don't think anyone lands perfectly in the same spot
>grip needs to be wider to make room for my knees; i can tell when I get tired and form falls off because my knees will buckle in
>arms aren't locked out until the rack, and I'm assisting the bar up/me under with my arms at the second pull
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>>35176252

not a great perspective but looked pretty decent from what I could see. Your shoes seem to be making you unsteady though

In the future take your vids from 45 degrees behind you, and try to elevate your phone a little
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>>35175133
SHE HAD A BOYFRIEND FUCKING HOLD ME BROS
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>>35176455
>>35175133
Cool I got dubs on both of my posts
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>>35176455
>had
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>>35172906
For you
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>>35176246
I found most of the a group sessions uploaded on youtube
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>>35176490
Has* sorry family
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>>35176302
will do. i'm looking at a pair of proper wl shoes too. I have made improvements on the clean but I've plateaued and I feel like I should be able to be doing 80% of my DL but I'm here in the 50% range.

>>35176455
you failed by asking if she's single: it doesn't matter if she is or not, if you're better than her current squeeze she'll jump ship.
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>>35176587
>you failed by asking if she's single: it doesn't matter if she is or not, if you're better than her current squeeze she'll jump ship.

yeah listen to mr skelly fail power cleans im sure he knows women
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>>35171891
yeah upping another 20 is rly easy bro, it's usually linear progress like so...
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>>35176609
That's a good name I think I'll use it.
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>>35170626
Agreed
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>>35176582
I feel your pain lad, I'm just about to meet the girl I've been seeing and get dumped, sucks to be me
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BLACKED.com
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>>35177010
doesn't really work if the negro is 5'4 lmao
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>>35177010
the one beside mattie looks like ayylmao
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>>35177010
ayy lmaontheleft
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>>35176587
>you failed by asking if she's single: it doesn't matter if she is or not, if you're better than her current squeeze she'll jump ship.

^spins trilby^ c/:^:)>
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>>35177010
>tfw manlet
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>>35176252
try not do widen your legs so much when you catch. i would check out glenn pendlays clean and snatch tutorials for some basic form tips, but basically when you jump you want to just shoot your feet forward and catch in the squat. also dont bend your arms until youre trying to catch it. you do it right before you get knee lockout.
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What ankle conditioning would you recommend for a tumbler? How does this look?

1.weighted ankle stretch
2.single leg calf raises
3.shin raises
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=469bSR9yqVk
4.Squatted seiza
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbpmnWBrKTY
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>>35177010

Lil' nigga walkin around in zebra/leopard-print sandals AND SOCKS and still pulls three tall blondes and a FUCKIN ALIEN.

s m d h f a m that is some pimp ass shit right there.
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>>35177170
>shoot your feet forward and catch in the squat.

this post is made by a mentally retarded person btw
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>>35177212

RIP knees.
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>>35172284
Do you live in San Fransicso or something? When I look outside your door windows I feel like I'm in the movie "Drive" with Ryan Gosling, or "Nightcrawler" for all intense purposes.
Your nightlife must feel straight out of a movie, or am I totally wrong?
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>>35177546

>San Francisco
>lists two movies from LA
>intense purposes

m8

Nightcrawler is on my to-watch list though

Also does anyone have based Iran webms?
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yep, got dumped, fuck

i actually really liked this one too

guess its just back to training five days a week
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>>35177685
https://bookofpook.neocities.org/#ch-69

change your mindset man, she just another one of them
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>>35176302
>45 degrees behind you,


he's doing power cleans, do you film yourself from behind when snatching?

because that's retarded as fuck
you want to see how the bar is moving in relation to yourself. filming from behind does not capture that
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>>35177811

45 degrees is behind + to one side. 4:30, if you like analogies.
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>>35177842
you said 45 degrees behind you

you didnt say 45 degrees from yourself, you're just confusing people
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>>35177888

I thought it was intuitive and guy in question seemed to understand it OK but I'll be more clear in the future
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>>35177623
id make some but im going to bed. maybe tomorrow if im not bored
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>>35177904
dat push press

fug
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here's Mattie pissing herself
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>>35178014
i definitely needed to see that for the 1000000-0th time thx man good post will upboat when my rep is recharge
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>>35178031
np bro, i just really enjoy watching it. i really appreciate the attention, it stops me from downing drain cleaner to sleep the big sleep
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What do you guys do for shoulder health my shit has been hurting for a whIle. Especially the top front and the back of it
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>>35178067

broomstick dislocations, face pulls, and upper body mobility (specifically triceps, t-spine, and chest) made my shoulder issues go away. Some people also do Lu raises
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>>35178067
i love cable external rotation and lying dumbbell ext rotation, i do the dumbbell one when i'm at home and my shoulder starts aching

i've got a torn labrum btw

the first stretch here is also really good

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dde27yFnJQ8
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>>35178100

you looking at surgical options? Sucks man, I have a minor tear but strengthened the joint enough that I never notice anymore and maybe it'll eventually go away completely.

My physio had me do a fucktonne of rows too, helped really stabilize the shoulders
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>>35178067
i like to do turkish getups, dislocations, and band pull aparts, plus lots and lots of stretching and rolling
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>>35178128
if it doesnt get better by next year. i will

right now it only actually hurts after training or when i neglect to do those things everyday, it's fine when i dont lift at all that's why i'm thinking i might not need surgery
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>>35178141

I was the same, although for me it took 3 months to be able to use the arm and 9 months to press pain free. Now I'm glad I never got surgery.
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>>35170129
How tall r u?
If you are short then you will gain strength quick, if you are tall time to bulk and you will gain strength and muscle over the months
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What shoes does Klokov and all these other Chinese lifters wear?

Why does the raised hell help you lift more?
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>>35179682
wlshoes.com

Well fuck lads, dumped anon here post coitus with Tinderella. What the fuck am I even doing with my life right now? Snatch technique work, cleans and squats tomorrow, I already can't wait. I wonder if she's thinking of me, probably not.
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>>35180027

She's not the one. Just try to occupy yourself with other shit. Do stuff that really takes your focus away.
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I've had what is almost certainly knee tendinitis for about four months now, and thought it would get better if i just did no squats/cleans, but deadlifts and good mornings attempting to maintain lower body strength, but im pretty sure that the reason it hasnt improved is because i didnt cut out lower body work all together.

anyone have experience with long term knee tendinitis (tendinosis)? i think by not saying screw it and resting totally for a long period is whats caused me to have it for so long (basically my stupidity), but now resting it isnt going to be sufficient to heal it, since after a certain number of attempts to heal the damage are interrupted, your body 'gives up' on healing it.

any tips, pointers or personal stories would be amazing, and i would massively appreciate it; have a sasha('s m8) webm for anything you can give
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>>35180122
>>>doctor
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>>35180306
>>>physio
ftfy
Do you really want to go to a normie doctor with a sports injury and be told
>you don't need to lift heavy weights to be healthy! You should lift light weights for toning instead
And
>rest the injured joint for 36months, no physical activity, and take these pills
?
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>>35180027
She's thinking of all the dick she's gonna be squatting and jerking mang
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Gonna get a massage from a gymbro today lâds
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>>35180122
>since after a certain number of attempts to heal the damage are interrupted, your body 'gives up' on healing it.

where the fuck did you read this


just rest and do stretches, do voodoo flossing, i didnt completely rest when i had tendonitis a few months ago it also lasted months i just did a lot of rolling and flossing it, it's gone now
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>>35178014
I think it's funny

>>35180122
My dick

>>35177623
So do you live in a Los angeles-esque city? Or what are those fabulous lights outside your habitat, just usual streetlights in a random city?

>>35180653
Tits
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>>35178128
>>35168468
form check ?
practiced some muscle snatches yeasterday and this morning, did a snatch max and that's the result:
86 kg : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIyhkM_gxYQ
93kg miss: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umYFXI4ouJk
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>>35180986
It looks like your hips are shooting up too much just before you pull
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>>35177546
That door goes inside and its christmas lights
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>>35180306
i've been to my gp and had an ultrasound which he examined and said showed no damage; i do still have pain so i know something is still not right, which he disagrees with. a doctor is not the end all be all solution to physical problems; all you did there was just appeal to authority

>>35180364
this guy gets it

>>35180697
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2JZEFvmk64
from this guy; good info i think and the med research checks out
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>>35178128
Is it actually possible for it to go away completely?
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>>35178067
If there's pain, you need to get checked by a doctor and get some physical therapy to heal it up. Shoulder injuries are very fickle and take a long time to heal even with physical therapy.

If it's just soreness and tightness, do the stretches mentioned in other pots before you train.
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>>35181129
so i should stay more upright?
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>>35180986
I am admiring your mobility

>>35181169
Ok thank you
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>>35181563
cmon, i dont have this shit of flexibility. i was much worse 2/3 months ago.
at least i can touch my toes now
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>>35181129

His hips are fine. He has a dynamic start so they are obviously going to 'rise faster' initially as they move into the actual start of the pull.

If you don't actually have anything to offer other than blanket critiques that may or may not apply to the case, don't say anything.

>>35180986

You're achieving the bar height needed to get under the bar, you're just not doing it. Whether it's a lack of confidence, mobility, or stability, or a combination, hard to say. Drop snatches, OHS, and pratazkhas are the usual prescription. Your 'pull under' is noticeably sluggish, so snatches from the hang and blocks might also help get you quicker into the catch.
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>>35181693
His hips still rise after the pulls started which is what that guy was pointing out, the dynamic start is irrelevant stop trying to sound like a fucking know it all
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>>35180986
miron gyno desu senpaitachi
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>>35181720

Does it affect his back angle? His balance? Doesn't look like it.

'Hips rising too fast' is a generic non-issue that every novice seems to feel he's qualified to diagnose. It tells the athlete nothing.
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>>35181369

you know, I'm not sure. I still get occasional tightness and pain, but it's only when my upper body is really tight and I'm putting pressure on the joint. Mobility makes it go away
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>>35181867
Yes to both, whh do you think he missed it despite pulling it high? Bar gets away from him, has to cannon it in and out of hips, misses forward.

You're acting like you're some guru criticising novices etc yet you yourself can't even diagnose the issue, you yourself gave some fucking generalised answers too so don't act like a dickheada m8 we're all here to learn and help
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>>35181920

Wrong. He's not chasing the bar, it's staying in proximity to his body, he's staying balanced over his feet, he's just slow under the bar and seems unable to lockout in time and with sufficient 'aggressiveness' to hold and stabilize.

I agree we're all here to learn from one another, but too much 'help' from people that have no clue what they're on about can do way more harm than good.
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>>35181920
It didn't really get away from him he just pussied out

He almost rode it down then got scared at the last second and dumped it I'm not the guy you're arguing with btw
U guys are so dumb lmao look at me I got the correct analysis of this pussys snatch it's this way no no no I got it right
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>>35181920

As to the tenor if my own advice: ironing is a favorite activity of mine.
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>>35181794
i'm just a fat fuck
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>>35181693
>You're achieving the bar height needed to get under the bar, you're just not doing it. Whether it's a lack of confidence, mobility, or stability, or a combination, hard to say. Drop snatches, OHS, and pratazkhas are the usual prescription. Your 'pull under' is noticeably sluggish, so snatches from the hang and blocks might also help get you quicker into the catch.

Yeah. Looks like he's trying to power snatch more than get under forsure.
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>>35182086
>>35182029
>>35182002
>>35181920
>>35181867
>>35181720
>>35181693
thanks a lot.
i think it's mainly because of my shit mobility and speed.
i can barely touch my toes and my vertical is around 20 inches.
i'm working on my mobility on a daily basis and started doing parallel muscle snatches/clean and my snatch already increased by 10kg and my cnj by 8 kg in 2 days.
will i ever get good senpai?
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What do you think lads?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxjFqmvd_8U
My second attempt at cleans.
I already know to keep my arms straight until I'm catching, but coming from a powerlifting background this stuff is difficult. Any help is appreciated.
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>>35182154

yeah breh, it's a gradual process but those are good PRs. Sometimes the way WL works is your form has some shitty aspects, you fix them, and hit a big PR or two. In my experience, anyway. You're doing ok
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should i stretch more than once a day of i have the time or is pointless?
same for foam rolling
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>>35182272
Use straps and let your arms just hang, internally rotate your elbows before you pull and shake them out

Straps help you bring up wrist flexibility as well, go very light when using straps tho something you won't miss just focus on relaxing the arms, even just the bar is fine
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>>35182313
if your mobility is lacking a lot its not a bad idea if you have the time.
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So these Russian style muscle snatches seem to be the memelift of recent times

Real talk; will they help me learn to pull under/catch deeper?

I can pull the bar high and power snatch within a few kilos of my full, I think this is in part due to mobility/instability but these muscle.snatchs everyday as part of my warmup should help?
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>>35182316

Great tip man, I'll be going back tomorrow with my straps. It's such an obvious thing but I'd never think of it. Thank you.
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>>35182375
yeah i have the time to do whatever the fuck i want, i lost one year of high school so i have to do it again and basically i dont have ANYTHING to do besides going to the gym , polaying vidya and smoke weed.
i'm getting kind of depressed.
at least i'm making mad gainzzzzz
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>>35182389
It's a meme lift for sure they don't help at all look at all the people who never read the post, it didn't work for them!!!

Don't do it its such a meme
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>>35182389
That guy on the right is literally the definition of bear mode
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>>35182394
Do not clean with straps.unless you're 100% certain you won't fail backwards.

Cleaning with straps is just a bad idea, period.
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>>35182389
i want to cuddle mogushov. no homo
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>>35182412
yeah man go for it.
hey dw bout it, i had to drop out of a college course after 1 semester, i sat at home doing nothing for like half a year senpai.

we all make it eventually f a m
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>>35182437
are you American? Only Americans are scared of using a tool to get better for fear of injury because of what happened to that one guy

Cleaning with straps is a good idea unless you're American I guess
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>>35182425

kek

>>35182487

get it together son, you don't have to go to uni but you should learn a skill. Working customer service is shit and probably does nothing for your anxiety
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>>35173019

not even making status, being in boarding group 4. DYEL.
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>>35177994
holy shitt indeed
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>>35182571
tru
I kinda want to go back to university eventually when i know what i want to do/actually have some drive to do it.

rn im just hoping to save some money working this job while livin at home
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>>35182490
>hurr american stupid

Why not to use straps:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fV1_Od6kCWg
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>>35182425
Thanks for the insightful comment

Fuck you 4chan
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>>35182945
I already addressed this but once again you're too dumb to notice that
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>>35182490
Pretty sure both old soviet and Chinese texts mention only using straps for pulls and snatches too. Isnt just Americans, not many people at all clean with straps
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>>35180122
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>>35182979
>recommending something which can cause catastrophic wrist injury to a rank beginner
>"addressed this"
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>>35183110
he also said "go very light" you fucking idiot,
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>>35183125
you heard it here first, folks

as long as you "go very light" any injury-prone exercise is fair game! crossfit skeptics BTFO
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>>35183125
implying that even matters for someone who can barely clean. there's every chance they'll pull badly. how many times did you fail backwards when you were starting?
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>>35183176
I've never fallen backwards m8, though i did some powerlifting before i transitioned
>>35183165
>injury prone exercise because one retard got injured that one time
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>>3518098any reason why u stand so wide apart and dont move your feet?

I think that the reason u are so slow under is because you pull the bar too long, as in you should cut it short so the last part of the pull drag you under the bar.
You also have zero legdrive when you extendwith the bar mid thigh and try to bring the bar upwards, this is because your stance make the lift look like a stiff leg deadlift, to compensate you use your back only to extend the bar upwards.

My suggestions are; bring in your feet and use your legs only to bring the bar to the hipcrease, then extend.

Ofc im olympic coach lvl 300 USAW
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_e6MzG9DzKE
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>>35183125
Why would you use straps for a "very light" lift?
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i have a meet on Saturday.
the weigh in will be from 8am to 8:30am and i have to lift around 9am.

this week, i have been eating almost zero carbs and drinking a ton (which i will reduce to a minium until friday) to cut waterweight. I weigh 58,7kg and need to weigh 58kg on Saturday.

what should i eat/drink in that 30 minute timespan that will hydrate me and give me enough energy for my lifts without making me too full or sluggish?

it's my first meet ever, don't have experience with cutting weight
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>>35183511
Did you read the replies or are you just being a moron again
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What happened to the Mattie instagram webms? I haven't seen a new one in years
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>>35183712

The water alone will help you make the cut. Drink Gatorade and eat a light snack of your choice, trail mix or something
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>>35183705

Hips rising too soon, he should really work on that.
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>>35172889
>nice tits
>big ass
>long blonde hair
>looks like a guy

Looks like I found the chubby chaser, boys.
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>>35183712
weird that there is only one hour between weigh in and competeing, usually you have 2hrs

get some protein bars and like some sports drink like gatoraid and you should be fine.

also dont worry if you dont make weight (you should be fine) as its your first comp. your main goal should just be to not bomb,
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>>35183843
shes taking a week off or something. and i dont feel like making any (original mattie poster here)
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Just hit an ugly no hook no touch snatch pr at 75kg. What does this make my snatch max (ballpark figure)
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>>35184068

>original mattie poster here

I wish a painful death upon you
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>>35180122
I've had the same thing as well, mane. I rested for 4 months, and it went away. It eventually came back though, even though I really eased back into squatting.

I've just gone full deadlift mode. 1 Sumo day, 1 conventional day. I find that body weight Bulgarian split squats have been helping the issue, as well as making sure I do lots of soft tissue stuff around the painful area and wearing knee sleeves while training.

Feels good not to BB squat for a while to be honest haha.
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>>35184092
thanks. im glad i made mattie a meme on fit. im looking for a new waifu desu senpai
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Guys how can i avoid puting presure on my rear knee after doing the split jerk?

Today i did one rep taht really hurted and i´m not sure how to fix it
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>>35184117
Does that mean you'll stop making the Mattie webms and start making webms of another? I don't want Mattie to go away

imho I don't think Mattie has been completely meme'd. Meme'd far yes, but not far enough. There's still work left to do
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>>35183915
>>35184051
thank you very much!
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>>35184245

Np, good luck on the platform m8
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>>35184245
good luck, try to get some vids if u can and post em here
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>>35183993
>>big ass
>>long blonde hair
>>looks like a guy
the one who said the hips raise to fast probably said it bc the pull get fucked up, tian taos pull is obviously not fucked up. So nice shitposting
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>>35184685
what the fuck are you talking about, tian tao what? you quoted some random ass shit as well

u mentally damaged son?
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I think I hurt my traps yesterday doing cleans since it's sore the worst when I twist my upper back, pic related, but it could just be strained from one too many chinups. Anyone else do the same?
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>>35182272
the bar is crashing onto you because you dont finish the pull, read the yashablog in OP

do those for cleans

https://www.instagram.com/p/8jRIBGLah7/

see how the bar is being controlled throughout and it's not crashing on him

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sR4DmSBBD_s

watch 30:48 then the other one at 31:03, you'll see two women showing you how to finish the pull, elbows up as high as they go then you rotate them to rack. this is how you prevent the bar crashing
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>>35182953
yeah fuck u 4chan why dont you spoonfeed me, everything even though i can't actually read

fuck u guys
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>>35185037
the yasha muscle snatch post to be specific
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At which point is it non tryhard to wear knee sleeves?
Do they make your knee feel more stable and less pain?

I'm frontsquatting 3-4x a week and getting a little slight ache on my left knee and it's stopping me from adding weight.

For reference my 5x3 is 70kg, 72kg bw.
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>>35185132
>looking tryhard

Just do it, don't ruin your knees. I always bandage mine when squatting/cleaning, because I have issues with them
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>>35185153

Okay thanks man, I'm pretty sure I know why I get it but I need something in the mean time.

I'm trying to strengthen muscles involved in keeping my knees out since I have flat feet so the knee has a tendency to track inside my feet.
Also another couple of questions for anyone, what kind of routine/volume would you recommend where I can frontsquat 4x week and get stronger at it and accessories based on improving it?

I'm doing weighted planks and ab wheel a lot, my core or upper back seems to give out before my legs.
I don't feel the barbell ankle stretch in my ankle or calf really, I just get some knee pain. Anyone know why this could be? I'm only using the bar.
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>>35185132
having tryhard knees is better than having no knees at all
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>>35185216
>>35185153
>Fixed formatting

Okay thanks man, I'm pretty sure I know why I get it but I need something in the mean time.

I'm trying to strengthen muscles involved in keeping my knees out since I have flat feet so the knee has a tendency to track inside my feet.

Also another couple of questions for anyone, what kind of routine/volume would you recommend where I can frontsquat 4x week and get stronger at it and accessories based on improving it?

I'm doing weighted planks and ab wheel a lot, my core or upper back seems to give out before my legs.

I don't feel the barbell ankle stretch in my ankle or calf really, I just get some knee pain. Anyone know why this could be? I'm only using the bar.
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>>35185231
Front squats 4x a week sounds a bit much, when will you do your back squadders?
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OK lads can I get a form check on this no hook no touch snatch? I moved feet but w/e

https://www.instagram.com/p/_DFdB_rrv8/

It was shit, I know, but if this was 75kg does this mean that I should be able to hit ~100 for a full snatch?
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>>35185395
I go 4x a week anyway, I don't mean heavy every time but maybe like technique/pause?
And also other accessories I should include that will help with my frontsquat? Upper back work/rack holds or something?

I don't plan on doing any backsquats for a couple months. For now, I'm working solely on my weak quads and mobility so I can go back to backsquats properly in a few months without them feeling or looking like shit.

I'm growing to love frontsquats and really want to reach 2pl8 frontsquat but I'm not sure how attainable that is really and I don't know what kind of time frame that takes or should aim for.

I'm still learning classics tech BTW, that's why I'm not worried about backsquats for a while.
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>>35185486

I'm really not even sure where to begin
That's way too much weight for an assistance movement
Looks like your right side came up way faster than the left
Drop the weight to like 50kg and make that shit look good, you're getting nothing out of going that heavy if that's what it looks like
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>>35185564

yeah I am fucked off about that imbalance, I have no idea what is causing it. I've tried stretching everything but nothing's working
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Hit new pr today on clean of 285 lbs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0p3H7KIKmRY
really bad form but at least i got it and i feel good

Any tips on how to get better form when doing prs and higher weight
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>>35180122
leg extensions, leg curls, stop a session as soon as it hurts and try to find an alternative which doesn't hurt, long half squat holds (5min or so), stretch gently
experiment with assistance/variation stuff to see if anything helps and then do that lots
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>>35185609
>lbs

Speak metric ya goof
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>>35185691
fine sir
129kgs
im new here so i dont know what you guys prefer to use
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>>35185708
's all good mang

In weightlifting, we always use The Kilogrammes
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Should I use straps for every set of pulls and/or clean and snatch deadlifts?
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>>35185732
>pulls

I prefer always using straps, because hooking them sucks

>deads

If you need to
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>>35185587

Looks like its proprioceptive
I have something similar with my shoulders not wanting to do the same thing at the same time when I tell them to
It's something you have to work on at home with a mirror just doing broomstick deadlifts or something to igrain a more symmetrical motor pattern
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>>35185810

hmm, OK. I've noticed this is the main problem for nearly all of my ugly lifts. I'll try the mirror thing tomorrow, meant to be doing hang high pulls so I'll see if it happens then too

ty brah. My old coach just told me that if you PR on a no hook no touch snatch, a PR on a full snatch isn't far behind, so I've been chasing it a little too hard maybe
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>>35185730
Thanks le sir ;^)
So far i like it here a lot better than /plg/ you guys are alright
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>>35185856
It's a bit dead, and there's at least one dedicated shitposter here. But I like it, and will try to be more active now when training season is on
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>>35185856
nah your just a pussy. /plg/ is far superior. the people their are at least half decent at the sport there competing in. no one hear can even jerk 200kg.
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>>35185928
On the other hand, they have a lot more people over there
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>>35185928
>>35186004
If plg didnt have sean it wouldn't even be a question.
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>>35171891
Where's the vid?? I wanna see that soft as shit lockout
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>>35186038
tell me about sean. who is he and what's the deal with him?
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>>35186038
I'm sure. It mostly comes down to the amount of posters/lifters though
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>>35186055
Canadian manchild who spends his every waking hour spamming plg. Comes up with a new character every now and then. Fatherless alcoholic too, bit sad 2bh.
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>>35186085
why does he do it?
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>>35186095
No idea desu. He used to spam the fuck out of /sp/ before.
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>>35186048
nvm I saw it on your instagram. Did they actually give you that 113/150?
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>>35186102
how do they even know who sean is. sometimes i go there and i see three anons calling each other sean.
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Who has got the best sinclair here?
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>>35185486
You're not gonna hit any snatch heavier than 80-85 if they look like those you landed on your toes even when you came off the floor which you're not supposed to doing that variation


It's hard to see what really went wrong with the angle you filmed it but I bet you left the bar out front and didn't finish through
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>>35186148
I think it's me with 311 in competition. There's been other dudes with higher that pop in, but I haven't seen them around recently
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>>35186175

>left the bar out in front

YES that's a good point, this happens all the time. How do I finish through? You mean finish full extension?
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>>35186184
Fuark, gotta put in some effort then
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>>35185928
well i did just start this shit 2 weeks ago so if im already doing 130 kgs clean is that good?
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>>35186193
you extend the lower body fine

you bend your arms prematurely as well

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JuenydM8Vy0

3:00

do those kind of complex 1 high pull + 1 snatch for triples or something

you need to be patient with your legs as well, you're getting up on your toes really early then landing on your toes as well, if you move your feet in all your snatches make sure you land on your heels

do barbell squat jumps no weight make sure you focus on landing on heels, this should teach you proper rhythm on how the pull should feel as well
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>>35186232
What bw?
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>>35186358
95 kgs
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>>35186304

ok I'll do that tomorrow, maybe something like 5x1+1 high pull + snatch at 65%. I'll work on being more patient too

thanks
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>>35186374
ur a strong guy
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Does anyone here work manual labor? I find it hard to balance it with the sheer amount of volume I'm lifting at right now, and I'm afraid I'm going to hurt my back (again) or knees (again)
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>>35186379
stop doing percentages, do it at a weight that you can make look really good, if it's just the bar do it

you can do triples per set as well just make sure you do high pull + snatch and count that as 1 rep

do the barbell jumps as warmup focus on feet landing on your heels
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>>35186430

alright I'll start with those
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>>35186388
FOR YOU
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>>35184685
>>35184813

Devilish.
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>>35185395
>too much
>>
when will it be my turn
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>>35186430

oh yeah I forgot to mention, it doesn't always happen
https://www.instagram.com/p/8g0Gqerrk5/

but it does often enough that I want to fix it, so I'll try both tomorrow and report back
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>>35183261
That one retard could clean and jerk 160kg plus.

Oh my days maties, the amount of unqualified idiots giving out misinformation to newcomers just seems to increase every thread what the fuck. Newbies reading this post take notice and pls go somewhere more respectable for advice.
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>>35186184
Smyth Phil has a really high Sinclair. At my last comp I had a 301 Sinclair. Hopefulyy soon we can compete against each other!
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>>35187158
>Oh my days maties
what
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>>35185609
>https://www.instagram.com/p/_DFdB_rrv8/
not bad man, you should start training at a gym w/ bumpers n platforms cause no fear of dropping/missing weights
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>>35187158
>go somewhere more respectable for advice.
I seriously don't know who's trolling who anymore. Where would I get legit advice (other than a proper coach in person)?
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>>35187802

I assume you linked the wrong insta post
>OLY boi watched my video
yeah it was bad
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>>35187806
that was the resident shitposter

ignore him
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guys i need some help

i have a problem keeping my back tight and my shoulderblades together, i just cant hold it during heavy reps in snatch, front squat and clean

give me some drills to even this out
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God here. Not the Christian god, just like god you know.

Ask me anything.

Before anyone asks: 200kg squat. 250 deadlift.
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>>35186978

Why did I find this so funny
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>>35185609
pretty thick looking for something so light.
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>>35186400

I did. Don't bother training. Find a new job.
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>>35187895
clean and jerk?
ssnatch?
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>>35187895
Does your mother know you use performance enhancing drugs?
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>>35187818
oops
ehh, ive never tried no hook/no contact/no blablabla lifts.
looks like you didnt t extend up/back hard enough and it just floated forward/your catch movement was wack.

and implying its some special thing that i watched ur vid
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>>35187895
I didnt know abadjiev used this board. I bet he'd use /jp/
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>>35186400
use the labor as a supplement. If your job requires heavy lifting, then use the gym for conditioning. Vice versa if your job requires frequent lifting of lower weights
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>>35188056

yeah idk, your posts are generally nice, and you have decent technique at least
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>>35188134
:)
ty homie, ur not too bad urself
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What ankle conditioning would you recommend for a tumbler? How does this look?

1.weighted ankle stretch
2.single leg calf raises
3.shin raises
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=469bSR9yqVk [Embed]
4.Squatted seiza
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbpmnWBrKTY [Embed]
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>>35188181
no one cares you fucking tumblrina bitch feminist beta male
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>>35188234
Oh shit, I went around to Netflix and chill with this girl last night, timblr was right there on her quick links. I almost bolted right outta there but I was upset and wanted to blow my emotional load inside her. Dead fish in the sack, sort of hate myself today for it 2/10 would not recommend
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>>35187969
yeah im 90 kgs and just started this stuff about a month ago
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>>35188255
You'll be pretty good when your strength scales with you, as long as you dont gain weight.

could see you cleaning 350 in a few months
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>>35188250
depends what kinda tumblr she has, if its a feminist one gtfo
if its like a prono blog have fun
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NEW THREAD

>>35188342

NEW THREAD

>>35188342

NEW THREAD

>>35188342
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>>35188310
She mentioned "internet drama" and some big argument from that day, I think I'm just gonna gap

But she is a nerd, so maybe I'll play some D&D with her first or something
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>>35185063
>asked a question
>spoonfed

Fuck you bitter asshole
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