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Cheating frauds general (steroids general)

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Last thread died unexpectedly edition

I just started low dose NPP along with my 160 mg test to help reduce swelling in my elbow. Also on peptides. Also trying to get back together with my ex but she has issues with my steroid use. She says fine you're doing it now but I'm not going to raise kids in a house with illegal drugs in it.
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where should you buy syringes and needles from? can you get them off amazon?
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>>35162025
>I'm not going to raise kids in a house with illegal drugs in it.
Put them in your car. Also pinned nandrolone today fellow Breh, it was the decanoate one though. Looking forward to sexy skin and the lengtg in waiting for low dose deca to kick in
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>>35162031
Not in the US.

Depending on the state, you can get them from a pharmacy with no script.

I heard Costco and Wal-mart are the place to go if it's legal in your state.
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>>35162036
The thing is I get deca dick like crazy. Libido just so low.

Dos it help your skin? For me it's dat joint help doe
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>>35162038
I'm from the uk m8
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>>35162031
I just get them shipped via GPZ
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>>35162025
>I'm not going to raise kids in a house with illegal drugs in it
like she has a clue how to raise kids if that's her attitude
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>>35162059
Just google needles UK then idiot
It isn't hard to buy needles if you don't live in a plebeian nation or state that banned needles for some weird reason
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Steroids are for manlet faggots.
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steroids are for manlet faggots
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Steroids are for manlet faggots
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steroids are for manlet faggots
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>>35162057
Yeah, it does help my skin, it makes it look really clear and the complexion is great. I dont get deca dick but I get insomnia from it.
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>>35162025
How high of a dose of teste can I take without needing a pct
>pls respond
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Swelling is essential for healing, it is literally your body sending more nutrients to the injured area
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>>35162059
I buy from exchange supplies, next day delivery (pretty sure anyway)
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>>35162124
Yeah I get mild night sweats like some people get from tren.

>>35162130
Thanks for the perspective. True for a short period after injury. But at some point after a while it can cause scarring.
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>>35162105
>>35162108
>>35162117
>>35162122
Could have made a loooong cat nah, you fuck up the combo by posting this shit

>>35162126
Just never pct
250test forever
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>>35162082
pls dont say idiot, i found it offensive
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>>35162126
Zero if it replaces or exceeds your natural production, which is the only reason to do it.
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would this bottle be suitable with filter top filters? I've heard some people say the plastic bottle might crack.
http://catalog2.corning.com/Lifesciences/en-US/Shopping/ProductDetails.aspx?productid=430282(Lifesciences)&categoryname#
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>>35162147
I have about 3000mg test e left over from my last cycle
Was thinking about just taking 50 mg or 100 mg per week
Just for a baby edge
Is that retarded
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>>35162180
yes.

100mg/wk of pharma would put you at like 1200

Why would you want less than natty
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How long do you guys train on a heavy blast?

I generally do about 1ish hour with intense training.

I could probably push it to near 2 hours intense and end up with barely anything left in me, but it feels like that would only be worth it on a bulk and not maintenance/recomp.
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I'm actually making good gains while on PCT. I was on 250mg Test P weekly for a few months. Lost some of that fullness for sure. But can't complain about the cystic acne going away and the lack of dick problems from the estrogen roller coaster. That said, I can't wait to blast. Waiting for my accutane to arrive. :)

How do you dose your cialis?
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Is there a biological reason for whats going on with my body right now? I came off a 1.5 year long cycle without any pct and it's been 7 weeks and I feel fine?
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>>35162150
Oh god that was rude
I'm sorry bby
Pls forgive

>>35162180
What's wrong with cruising on 250pw like literally everyone else?
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>>35162217
Probably the esters still clearing out.
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>>35162025
>house with illegal drugs in it.
Detached Garage m8.
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>>35162217
the whole 'feel good when on bad when coming off' is overplayed and just guys feeling shit about being paranoid they are losing their gains.
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>>35162291
You're hotter than the bottom of my laptop.
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I want to try clen but am nervous about ordering online/it coming in the mail

Am I just being a bitch?

Anything I should know? Such as don't use your real name for ordering?
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>>35162323
I agree with this a bit. I feel depressed as hell sometimes during PCT. Ups and downs.

Also very paranoid that i look small all the time. But i measured everything and my arms are still 19 inches
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>>35162323
>the whole 'feel good when on bad when coming off' is overplayed
i went off test for 2 months and i definitely felt it. week 4 i just got hit and was tired 24/7 with no motivation for anything.
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>>35162330
Thanks?
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>>35162385
YOU BETTER SAY THANKS BITCH.
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>>35162332
>Am I just being a bitch?
Yes

>Anything I should know?
Yeah, don't use clen
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>>35162351
penis still 3 inches?
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>>35162428
>don't use clen
What to use bros
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>>35162458
ECA. Clen isn't much more effective and DNP is just too dangerous
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>>35162385

As per your suggestion I tried cock ring on fuckbuddy.

Put on two at once, big one around balls only, medium one around cack

She LOVED it, I could keep going forever but I had to finish up some hw so I took them off and finished.

Thank you based AnnSkellington
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So if I'm understanding this correctly, MENT(trestolone) is the most powerful steroid out there without being notably toxic (cheque drops are more powerful but that shit will kill you).

But all the trestolone on the market these days is fake because the only ones producing it are bayer. And bayer is not releasing it, only using it for research purposes.
The research they're doing is quite interesting. They wanna turn it into a male contraceptive. This brings up so many questions.

So to be used as male birth control, it would have to do a few very critical things. First it would have to be run without testosterone, which many have done with some success. Second, it would have to not kill your sex drive. What good is birth control if it kills your dick.

Research has indicated that it does not kill your sex drive and in fact boosts it. How could this be possible if it spikes progesterone?
Ment is known to be very harsh on both estrogen and prolactin. So how could it boost your sex drive when prolactin is the second most common cause for erectile dysfunction, right under general anxiety?

So many questions with no answers. Guess thats why bayer is putting millions into researching it.

What i'm wondering is how the hell can i get my hands on some real fucking MENT?
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>>35162449
2 inches

sm.h
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>>35162551

The most effective male contraceptive going under human trials is Vasalgel, which is injected into the vas deferens. Blocks sperm from leaving the body (or it kills it with a static charge, dont remember). To reverse it, you need to inject either saline or baking soda into the vas deferens, bust a nut, and its all out.

Probably better than the tits in a vial tresolone senpai.
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pls share tren suspension experiences i just ordered some and cant wait to use it
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>>35162551
>>35162600
Oh god don't talk about male birth control!
The feminists will hear and invade our thread!
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>>35162625

Isnt it the better option? The men have to get a simple non-hormonal treatment that works for a decade and the female doesnt have to take anything that doesnt fuck up her hormones or cycle.

I'm all for it tb h
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>>35162600
>Blocks sperm from leaving the body
why have blue balls when you can blue your whole goddam dick
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>>35162551

There is a company that makes pills that you are looking for. All the gains, none of the problems. In fact several times i was in sticky situations, popped one or two, and figured out how to get out of them in creative ways that i would never be able to do without them.

You cant buy them in America though, its only in spanish. The spanish version is called Mentos.


Doing a 12 week cycle of 300mg of test can i get away with just nolva or should i include clomid as well?
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>>35162643

Doesnt have to take anything that fucks up her hormones or cycle****
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>>35162643
Oh absolutely
It's the best option by far

But feminist groups lobby against men having any form of birth control because "forgetting" your pill and getting knocked up to trap a dude is easy.
Literally, google it, big groups in America have tried to have legislation brought in that outlaws vasectomy's

It's a dirty nasty world
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>>35162655

Sperm die in our balls all the time, it just gets reabsorbed. Think of a net that doesnt let sperm through but lets through the rest of the fluid.
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>>35162677

Feminists != Retarded tumbleristas

God women are so fucking naive

Men run the world, women run men

If you really put your mind to it, most of accomplishments done by men are an indirect result of trying to get poon.
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>>35162696
Women have achieved fuck all when you compare the 2 genders, looking at it from any level. The advances achieved to get the world where it is today, all these breakthroughs are from men. Yet when it comes to procreating the fucking species, women have the say.
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>>35162696
No sssshhh it's all the patriachy trying to destroy women

Make birth control is great
Just a shame it's taking so long to develop and keeps getting roadblocks by groups wanting to stop men having the choice not to be fathers
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>>35162680
But if I go 36 hours without ejaculating I get a fever and terrible pains. I don't think I reabsorbed well
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>>35162551

the only 100% legit trest right now is actually clearnet, unfortunately they have the honest to god worst customer service I've ever dealt with

and it's $rape
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>>35162734

In my non medical opinion, Its probably the buildup of fluids that causes problems associated with not ejaculating. Particularly prostate fluid.
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>>35162727
It's the patriachy Cheeky! It has purposely kept women down, that's why men have been credited with more than women!
>tfw feminists actually believe women made most of the scientific achievements of humanity but men took the credit
Reality is women made a few key discoveries in the 19th and 20th centuries but everything else was driven by men
Come to now make and females are equal in how they push progress

>>35162734
Do you also have a persistent cough and lesions?
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>>35162727

Men have achieved most, but I think that a lot of those accomplishments are indirectly caused by women. Napoleon Hill even mentions that the most successful men in the world had used their sexual energy to drive them to success

just my $0.02
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>>35162758
Wtf

And no to both

>>35162756
Yea but it's usually a testicle that hurts the most. I think it the one on the right that particularly suffers. I probably just have knackered knackers
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>>35162774
Chicks are just there to be fucked then lol. The more we fuck em the more we advance society lol
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>>35162814

Precisely my nigga
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>>35162751

Bro that convo we had yesterday about the middle east got me down the Genghis Khan rabbithole last night.

Thank you based Genghis for skullfucking the middle east
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>>35162884

wall everything off, resurrect subutai, and let him loose

problem solved
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>>35162884
>>35163126
Ghengis Khan rabbithole?
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>>35162388
lel

>>35162482
Good to hear. There's a reason why they're my favorite sex toy.

>>35162884
Basically saved western civilization.
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>>35163126
I want to get that double ended fist and keep it in my truck as an emergency nigger beater.
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>>35163333


Researching and reading about him all night
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>>35162477
2nd'd
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>>35162428

Yes you're being a bitch, Clen isnt that big of a deal

Don't do clen unless you're cutting for a show/event

Use ECA if you're not stim sensitive.

Adderall helps tons

Better yet just dont use chemical aids to cut if you're just trying to see abs. Any chemical that helps cut is dangerous if used improperly.
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>>35162482
I used to fuck my fat fuck of an ex. It was pretty great. I could make her cumm and drench the bed numerous times using that toy. Plus it makes my dick look awesome
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>>35162751
Dude shoot me an email with that source so you dont get banned.

Am dying to get a hold of this stuff
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>>35162059

literally got mine from ebay.

A lot of people sell cycle-packs that includes needles, syringes and alcohol swabs for a pretty cheap.

Don't worry about it being from ebay. They're all still in the original packaging so its k
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What's a reliable source for peptides?
I want to run frag but I'm new to buying peptides
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>>35163632
Tried anything else from him. I love chem, but I'm a bit affeared about the hygiene level.

>>35163751
It's sort of like dick steroids.
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>>35162351

Serious question: Were you ever bullied/picked on in school?

I was and I always feel like I have to be bigger than everyone else because of it. Took me quite a while to realise the reason
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>>35163804
Register on datbtrue. Tom just started carrying frag. It's fucking expensive though. How is it dosed?
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>>35163812
Jelly. I wish I had been picked on in school. Maybe I would have stated lifting/eating sooner.
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>>35163826
And not had that gay haircut? :^)
Lov u bby
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>>35163821
Most places I see have it for 40 apex peptides has two for 40 at 5000mcg so that's 20 days right there
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>>35163632

If I were you I'd add in a deca-test mix just to make sure your joins don't explode
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>>35163851
Honestly, I'm still mad at my friends for not telling me that shit was retarded.
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>>35163806

I brewed with him once

Hygiene is just fine; equipment is washed, gear is properly filtered, and he's very careful to make sure nothing is contaminated. Also, we did a check on every vial to make sure every vial has nothing but oil in it.
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Why and when did /fit/ become so shite?
QQ
These threads are the only decent ones left tbqh
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>>35163868
You're still friends with the people who let you do that?
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>>35163884
That makes me feel better. Maybe next blast.

>>35163914
lol Honestly, how could I not be. They were bro enough to be nice to that pos skelly.
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>>35163761

[email protected]
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>>35163855
So 500 mcg/day?

Got any guides, literature about frag?
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>>35163936
Were they pos skellys too though?
Honestly the only people I was friends with in school who are worth my time now are the ones that got stuck in to their jobs or studying after school and are really trying to do well in life
Everyone else are just lazy whiney fucks
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>>35163972
Evolutionary and bass killer got those covered
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Kickstarting my test e cycle with dbol. Never taken an oral before, so I've got some questions.

my dbol comes in 25mg pills. Should I take 2 at breakfast before my workout, or space it out, taking 1 in the morning and 1 in the evening?

Any advice on keeping a healthy liver. I've heard anabolics can be rough on the liver. I barely drink, so it shouldn't be hard to keep clear from the booze for 6 weeks. Are there any supplements I should take (already taking a multivitamin).
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>>35164052

Good dbol is potent as fuck, I'd highly advise running 25mg ED for twice as long.
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>>35164052
sam-e
tudca
nac
TMG
milk thistle

any number of other things
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>>35162217
what did u run at that time and experiences results etc
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>order 1000 oral bottles
>only after I've paid do I think about what the size and weight of the shipment is going to be
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Is there anything wrong with doing a 6 month cycle?
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>>35164292
why so short?
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>>35162031
rui is where I get them.

Pretty popular site with juicers

Live in the states in a state where it's legal to have them. Pharmacies are cunts though so it's easier online.
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20mg sdrol all preworkout or 10mg pre workout and the other ten at some other time during the day depending on when i workout?
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>>35164052
Dbol has a halflife of 6-8hrs, you want to keep your levels as stable as possible for the most amount of gains.
Let's say you work out in the evening, then I'd recommend 1 @ breakfast and @ before training.
This is also for health reasons, giving your body time to deal with the stuff at a reasonable pace.
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>>35164315
is that short? ppl always tell me 3-4 months is what you should go for
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>>35164339
Yeah that's how I took it.

When I did 25mg I did as preworkout.

50mg one at lunch and other preworkout.

Worked well
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>>35162031
androusa

cheap, fast, and most importantly, medical grade
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Posted this before but would 40mg/120mg Dbol and Adrol kill my liver if I took it alongside the 40mg Accutane I've been on for the past 2 months? I have TUDCA just in case and I don't plan on drinking at all obviously.
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>>35164398
Now why the fuck would you want to do a moronic thing like that? You're asking for trouble.
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Bought from a source on SST. Claims he shipped but hasn't provided tracking # upon request after a week w/o package arriving. Beginning to think I've been scammed. Should I contact the mods there to see if he'll respond to them?

>usps delays
Purchased things from other sources on the other side of the country without any delay.
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>>35164398

Honestly Accutane is a lot worse on your liver than Oxymetholone or Methandienone. I don't usually advise liver support because if you're young and healthy you probably don't need it, but I'd definitely run TUDCA with that.

also GL maintaining any appetite
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>>35164398
u scared of needles or something?
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>>35164409
>>35164418
Just asking m8s. I guess I should just avoid orals altogether while I'm on the tane train. I don't have a lot of experience with orals but I've seen people here run far worse without liver damage. I just haven't seen anyone run accutane along with shit like sdrol, adrol, and whatever else.
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>>35164427
I'm use a test base ofc. I've only used test though and would like to try something different.
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>>35164468

I ran Epi with a low dose of Accutane and was fine, no liver support

but damn did Accutane make me feel awful and raped my lips
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>>35164417
What has he told you about the package, only "USPS delays"? Odd if he can't at least give you the estimated delivery date.

Really though, a week is a bit soon to be jumping to the scam conclusion. Roid dealers are your stereotypical fuckups and might be liable to get hammered or whatnot and fuck off orders for 2-3 days and just cover with some bullshit excuse, but they usually do end up delivering.
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>>35164482
Yeah I'm getting that too. Biggest problem was my joints but I dropped the dose from 80mg to 40mg and they're fine now. I started var about 10 days ago, maybe I should have added that in my original post lol. I know that var is pretty lax on the liver though for a oral and I'm on a baby 60mg dose for cutting/joint health
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>>35164417
Which source? I know of a particular one who doesn't give tracking numbers but is g2g. If it's the opposite tense of past hint hint then don't worry he's not a scammer.
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>>35164488
Yeah, USPS delays. Asked for the tracking #, and he's like, "Oh I'll get it to you tonight or tomorrow." That came, then he sent another e-mail. "Forgot it, I'll get it to you today for sure." I've sent two emails since then (Friday) inquiring about the tracking # and haven't gotten a response.

His response time was great when I was ordering (hours) but I'm worried just because I have everything ready to start my blast... except the test.

>>35164515
Mine's the portmanteau of tren and insomniac.
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Anyone have any exp with a test-u cruise?
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>>35164547
ADD: Most logical conclusion I've jumped to, assuming he's not scamming, is that he hasn't shipped yet.
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>>35164551
I think the trip Gearhead is on a test-u cruise right now. I could be wrong though.
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>>35162025
>last thread died unexpectedly
>died unexpectedly
I hope I'm not the only one who sees the irony.. lol
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>>35164601
Ikr
1. take steroids
2. wake up IFBB pro
3. massive heart failure 1 week later from exogenous test
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>Tfw tomorrow will be getting laid
>tfw she's virgin
>tfw no blowjob, anal or doggy
>tfw just classic stuff
>tfw only room for love
I think we all need some love once in a while.
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>>35164547
I'd wait two more business days or so and then get on him about it again, odds are he's just covering and sweating his ass off hoping the package gets there soon because he lost the receipt that had the tracking number on it, hah.
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>>35164716
wrong thread?
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>>35164726
You don't understand, this is where I live, this is my house.
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>>35164743
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>>35164720
This would be pretty funny if true. Why don't sources just provide tracking #s up front?
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>>35164417
Lol... thinking about juicing and I was really considering sourcing from SST, but I kinda came to the conclusion that it's all shills... fuck you for making me reconsider :)
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>>35164797
Learn from me brother! Go with someone who has the not scammer tag
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>>35164790
I've had some refuse to give out tracking numbers at all. For security reasons.

>>35164797
There are some here that I'd personally vouch for. If you lurk you can find them.
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>>35164844
I actually prefer those guys. If I don't have one its like a surprise and always seems fast af.
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>>35164926
Go kill yourself brony
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>>35162025
Is drinking red bull/Monster cheating too?
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>>35165038
Idk, But monster as a pre-workout is great. I'd swear all my lifts jumped like 10-20 lbs.
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>>35165000
Oh nonny, I prefer horsefucker vs. Brony.
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>>35165055
I use sleeping pills too to sleep when and how much i want to.

The side effect is being a bit tired, but it goes off by pissing, and i drink a lot of water during the day so is no issue.
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Sup fraud.

PCTing here after 1yr on. Had to stop using blasting doses for heart reasons but continued to cruise for that little boost afterward. Now heading out of the country for extended period of time, figured I'd try PCTing to see if anything still works.

Exo test clearing tonight. Dosed torem @ 120mg. Sittin here while my sack inflates. Word.
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>>35165070
gl m8, what were your gains after a year on?
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>>35165055
Energy drinks are nowhere near as good as preworkout and ephederine and caffeine beats preworkout by a fair bit too.

25mg ephederine and 200-400mg caffeine is god tier energy and simplicity desu
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>>35165106
I like the sugar boost too. Might look into adding ephedrine.
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> have migraine and fucking up all day
> ask out gym clerk (and fuck it up)
> she says something along the lines of "I don't know when"
> give her number anyway, no response
> spend last 10 hours soloing a 3 man database project while managing a chinaman and another guy, deadline tomorrow
> fix some guys car in a parking lot
> vomit
> some asshole threw out the oxycodone

Eh. Gym going to be awkward now.
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>>35165250
Well, at least it made a good story.
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>>35165250
>miagraine
fuck i started today with one aswell
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>>35165094
Lifetime PRs on all lifts while blasting (600mg test only) retained all after switching to cruise on test only. Which was nice. Natty I'm 400-500ng/dl so having 900-1000 was great for libido and slightly enhanced recovery. Completed an ironman triathlon at 195lb and 10% bf.

Was great fun. Won't be disappointed in the slightest if I have to do TRT. But I've always bounced back retardedly fast and I ran hcg 500iu ew almost the entire year so I think I'll recover. We'll see. Yolo.
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>psmf
>need to take shit
>brown river flows out asshole
>shit 5 more time
>ass hole raw
>feels like I shit razorblades
>shredded doe
Worth it.
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>>35165250
You and I'm got great stories lol
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What would happen if tmw in the middle of my cycle I decided to start pinning 750mg test e a week instead of 500?
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>>35165445
Jm*
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>>35165432
>We'll see. Yolo.
lol
I like you.
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>>35165437
>on psmf
>4 days without taking a shit
>start getting worried and try my best to take a shit
>asshole becomes painful and itchy
>get hemorrhoid. discust
>feels bad. still losing fat fast af tho.
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>>35164052
>tfw physique is like this minus tits
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I dropped my adex down from .5 EoD to .25mg because I was having dick issues.

It helped for a day or two but now it's fucked again. I get hard easier and I actually have some libido again but it's still not rock solid... not noodle but close to it ;_; I want off this ride
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>>35165475
Progesterone probably. Cabergoline
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>>35162025
>I'm not going to raise kids in a house with illegal drugs in it.
She's right you should slowly kill yourself with saturated fats, alcohol and prescription meds where the doctor gets a kickback. Also I have 3 kids
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>>35162025
Do you work out more frequently on cycle? I usually take the full weekend off, but will I be able to go every other day without a longer break? I have yet to get a straight answer.
Also, any Canadians want to recommend any vendor to buy needles from? The only place go get needles in my area is the methadone clinic, and from what I understand, IV needles are far too short to use for IM.
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>>35162059
I get mine off ebay
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>>35165465
Drink 1L coffee in morning on empty stomach
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>>35165266
>>35165445

Glad my life is entertaining.

She could've just said no or "boyfriend"/etc. I even said "So no... then?" and she reaffirmed not a no.

Shit. I wanted to settle this and be done with white girls.
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>>35165450
Berp
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>>35165489
I'm only on test tho. I finished up my dbol and my BP is back to normal and my nips don't bother me anymore but still wang probs
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>>35165603
So she didn't even shut you down?
She left it at a maybe?

If so just smile and say hey when you come in and out of the gym.
Don't try to talk to her but don't act like you're embarrassed of scared.
Why should you feel bad for giving it a crack?
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>>35165652

No regrets, nigga, not feeling bad.
>>
is there a good website or something where I could read about steroids from a stance of knowing nothing?

I've been lifting consistently for several years now and i'm interested in learning about steriods, but it seems overwhelming when I try to find out on my own.
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>>35165832
Start with the basics.

Learn about the endocrine system and negative positive feed back loops.

Llwyenn Goodwin look him up.

He wrote anabolics, the "bible" or whatever people call it.
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>>35165450
More gains
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>mfw dirty bulking

i missed you so much pizza
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>TFW can't lift for another month so have to do gay ass cardio only

Smh... What cardio do you guys recommend that isn't super boring? Stationary has to be the most mindnumbing thing... Elliptical machine is a meme and cba everything else.

Should I just do HIIT on stationary bike? Seems like best option.
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>>35166163
Casseroles are best buddies for bulking. Just pile a bunch of meat, cheese, pasta, and frozen veg into a pan with some cream of _____ soup and you're golden.
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>>35166206
I read while doing stationary bike.
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>>35166206

Take a martial arts class. Not very boring at all and if its mma stuff or full contact sparring/rolling thats good cardio thats fun.
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>>35166206
Netflix and chill @ 130bpm for 30min.
Only time I ever really get to watch TV.
Currently running through Sons of Anarchy. Fuck that's a good show.
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>>35166206
Bike and yoga. There's different kinds of yoga and some are pretty intense. If nothing else, just vikram and isometric holds.
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>>35166221
>Just pile a bunch of meat, cheese, pasta, and frozen veg into a pan with some cream of _____ soup and you're golden.
Is this a recipe?
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>>35166256
What resistance tho?

I'm considering doing 20 mins hiit stationary bike then 10 mins stairclimber thing. Seems ight.

>>35166266
No time or dough to spend rn.

Do you guys think HIIT on epiliptical or stationary bike would look too autistic?
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>>35166272
Can of cream of mushroom, ground beef or turkey, spinach, and shells.
Can of cream of chicken, chopped zucchini, onions, and garlic, orzo and mozzarella.
Can of tomato, ground beef, instant mashed taters, green peas, and chopped onions or leeks.

All are hella cheap, calorie dense, can be frozen or premade a week in advance, and only taste better for leftovers.
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>>35166292
Chankonabe is good, too, if you have a slow cooker. Just leave it on and graze.
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>>35162031
If you're Aussie then just go to your local needle exchange
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>>35166287
Please respond.

Is the stationary memebike for fatties only?
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I'm haemophiliac and therefore can't inject myself without fucking up my shit, so I was thinking of looking into oral steroids.
What do you guys know about using oral steroids, which ones I should look into, how they react with your body etc.
I know shit all about them
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>>35166313
>Chankonabe
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>>35166351
>haemophiliac
Who gives a shit, we pin muscle not veins.
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>>35166351

One of the common side effects of gear in general and orals in particular is elevated blood pressure. I cannot imagine this is going to combine well with haemophilia.
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>>35166377
I know that but injecting yourself when you have a bleeding disorder really is not that smart of an idea
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>>35166399
oh shit. I might consult my haematologist first before jumping into this
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>>35166287
>>35166342
Please reply.

I almost never do cardio and I can't lift for a while so it's the only exercise I can do for now.

What should I be doing? What is least autistic
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>>35166434
Just lift
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>>35166487
But I cannot for another month(had surgery).
>>
scuse me, le literally the best original qt coming through

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfXBNQMj2SE
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>>35166351
Consider this.

Stop being a faggot
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>>35166434
Try stuff out at the gym and see what you like. If possible avoid the gym and try running, hiking, swimming.
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>>35166518
hot shit brah
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>>35166528
Ight I'll try some shit out.

And yeah I'd normally run outside but since I'm paying for the gym anyway and not using it becuz can't lift seems like a waste and might as well do cardio in warm indoors during winter desu.
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>>35166351
>What do you guys know about using oral steroids,
oral steroids are like candy
they're fun and nice to have
dont over use them
and still eat your main meals aka pin test
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>>35165832
reddit.com/r/steroids/wiki/index
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>>35165437
not coach is not dhb right?
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>>35166617
So you can't really get much out of them if you're not using injected as well?
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>>35166637
Who knows
He's an enigma
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>>35166652
you /can/ but at a price

its generally not worth it, because of liver toxitity / cant stay on them too long / etc

they are steroids however and they do work for their intended purposes.

kinda like trying to run a car on nos without petrol?

if that analogy makes sence?

there have been times when I was on oral only
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Ok bros since I can't talk to anyone else about this and it's slightly /fit/ related.

>can't make rent short 100
>g4p
>old ugly man offers to pay 100 to fuck me
> do it.
>starts with him rubbing my traps/pecs/shoulders
>he lays me down and pulls out smallest dick
>so small he can't put it in doesn't even attempt to
>air humps me for awhile
> kneels over me jerking him and myself off
>asks to come in my mouth say 50 more
>agrees, I do it.
>get dressed and he takes me home

On the way home I begun to debate which of us was the loser. He paid me 150 to worship me and then cum in my mouth. He had a literal micropenis.

On the other hand I just let a guy with a micropenis come in my mouth for 150.

Drinking away the shame currently
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>>35166719

man im so happy i have a good relationship with my parents who are upper middle class, can always go to them if i feel figuratively fucked instead of getting literally fucked
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>>35166719
Atleast your chances of picking something up are less oral vs. anal, you got 50 extra and now you can afford too try and drink that memory into oblivion.
You got lucky kinda
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>>35166719
You dont have possessions you could sell to make rent? You're a fucking disgrace.
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>>35166771
Just wait till he replies with the revelation he went ass to mouth.

He got his own shit in his mouth
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>>35166759
Can confirm my parents are too poor to help me financially.

>>35166771
don't think there was much of a winner in this one except maybe my landlord.
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>>35166779
Unfortunately there was stuff I could have sold. Not sure why I did it. Justified it during with the thought process that I'm kinda bi
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>>35166719

aahahahaaaaaaaaaaa

fucking faggot
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>>35166719

you forgot to say no homo
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>>35166719
On one hand I am jealous that you merricans can make money from your bodies so easily
On the other hand, holly shit dude you went full gay

Couldn't have even found some desperate chick who wasn't bad looking?
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>>35166966
In murrica even fat desperate ugly girls get laid often enough
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would it hurt to pin a trt dose before my gyno surgery? want to get to around 1000 ng/dl.
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>>35167063
would pin like 125mg per week
>>
Do you guys take AI on cruise?
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>>35166672
You've given me a lot to think about dude. I want to ask a doctor if injecting will fuck me but I have a strong feeling that they will say not to just for the sake of me not doing roids.

I just want gains ;_;
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>>35167109
there is really no need to take an AI for most people
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>>35167135
Yeah i feel like it too, im on 500test and dont really feel any symptoms so havent been taking AI for ages. Dropping to cruise so probably wont take AI at all
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>>35167111
>I want to ask a doctor if injecting will fuck me

fuck you how exactly?
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>>35167182
I don't want the constant puncture to cause a clot or internal bleed in the muscle. This shit actually happens kind of easily with haemophilia

It might not though I might be perfectly fine to go ahead and do it, I just want to make sure first
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If a girl drinks a lot would alcohol get in her breast milk
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>>35162025
Repost from /olg/ and from QTDDTOT, figure you guys probably know more hormonally speaking than either of those threads.

How much effect could issues with the pituitary gland cause for gains? I don't think it's a tumor or anything (don't get MRI results back for a few days), and my test levels are fine, but a bunch of my other hormones are a bit off, and there might be other issues.

Is this likely to be effecting my gains, or is it just I'm eating wrong? Been doing SL for around 8 months now, and I got decent gains to start with, but I've been stalled at fucking shit lifts for a fair while now, even though I am bulking properly. Just not sure if I should be looking for a new program, or eating more, or if I just can't help it really.

I've asked my GP, but he doesn't know, and I can't see a specialist until early next year.
>>
In4 diarrhea stories from DHB and mossad
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>>35167301
you're not training hard enough
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>>35167356
I definitely had noticed I was slacking at points, but I stick to the program, and lift as heavy as I can without completely failing, so I'm not sure.

Just want to be sure it's not likely to be something I could exacerbate by lifting too heavy, by causing injuries or something due to screwed recovery. I dunno, I don't understand it all very well yet.

I'll make sure to push harder though.
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>>35167278
>haemophilia

Ah shit, must have missed that if you posted it already.
You can always just tell your doc you are planning b12 injections or something if you are worried.
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>>35167371
the program is too easy
do some john meadows bodybuilding type stuff

Hypertrophy is the main driver of strength in intermediates
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>>35167392
I would be interested in doing a different routine, is there any in particular you'd recommend? Assuming I can't be on cycle at this point, what with tests being done on my hormones, would kind of defeat the point if I was on gear when I did those.
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>>35167406
Any sensible bodybuilding split will do
try to hit the muscles twice a week

squat/bench/pull/press/arms works well
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>>35167413
Any in particular though? I don't really feel like I've got the knowledge to be able to program my own routine like that.
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>>35167425
the secret bullet isn't programming or exercises, it's learning to move correctly with good technique then applying volume

Just download something you like the look of and will have fun doing
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>>35167380
Yeah that's what I'll do. I still might try an oral cycle like d-bol and see how it goes. Only trick is finding someone to get me some
>>
In5 for had a headache and felt ill this morning. I think it was from a ferocious wet dream the other night.
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First time doing a 16 week cycle test e 250 for 16 weeks, var for 8 adex for ai (might use left over asin as long as I can too) Will I need hcg for coming off or is nolva enough at 40/40/40/20/20/20?
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Starting first Tren A / Test P blast tomorrow. 50mg/25mg ED respectively, might ramp up if sides are OK. Throwing 50mg Var ED in too as I have loads to use up.

I am fat as fatass, 20% bodyfat. Expecting to get down to 10-12% within 16 weeks while looking like more and more of a giant throbbing vascular penis every day. Cutting moderately.

Also throwing ephedrine in first day I pin Tren. Good night any sleep for first 2 weeks.

Also also I'm living at home and I'm single. I get extreme libido from half a gram of test alone. Expecting tren to make me fuck every wife on the street.
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>>35167592
>test e 250 for 16 weeks
test2low

>is nolva enough
yes
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>>35167603
im starting to get sex dreams more and more regularly now
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>>35167603
>fuck every wife on the street
>"i am fat as fatass, 20% bodyfat"
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>>35167635
You need to lift more bby
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>>35167569
Didn't you bust in a MILF?
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>>35167837
Had a wet dream like Thursday or Friday
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>>35167485
Keep an eye out on oral cycles as compounds like Tbol can interfere with liver enzymes, specifically clotting.

I had nosebleeds daily by the end of a month on 40mg Tbol per day.
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>>35167832
okay
>>
senpai how to recover from estro crash quicker??
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>>35168044
dbol
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>>35168029
Oh shit see I didn't even think that could happen. Yeah definitely going to consult my doctor
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>>35168044
this >>35168048
>>
how good am i going to feel going from lethargic low test high estro fag to injecting 250mg test e e3d?

also would you ever recommend that someone starts off with anything more than dbol + test e on a first cycle/blast?
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>>35168029
>I had nosebleeds daily by the end of a month on 40mg Tbol per day.

you'd love 40mg sdrol then
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>>35168090
Only time i started feeling different with test was at 1g. Dbol is best but honestly if you are new I would recommend just frontloading Test E with 2 1 gram injections instead.
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>>35168092
na boet, not touching that with the way my nose bleeds.

GF still gives me shit cos I bled on her whilst we were getting it on.
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>>35168090
pppp good if you are legit low test.

>also would you ever recommend that someone starts off with anything more than dbol + test e on a first cycle/blast?
up to you
test/dbol is safer / easier
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>>35168115
>na boet
Aweh naai
South Aftrican?
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is 150mg of test ok?i'll use it on pills
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>>35168150
150mg test ew?

babydose
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>>35168117
what about front loading the test AND using dbol?
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>>35168154
any recomendations? didn't want to go that hard on my first try, i would take 150mg everyday, should i take 2 pills a day?
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>>35168188
What are you on about?
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>>35168186
> front loading the test AND using dbol?
preddy standard brah

>>35168188
> i would take 150mg everyday, should i take 2 pills a day?
what?
you wana take test pills?
you inject test
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>>35163812
>Serious question: Were you ever bullied/picked on in school?
No, i always protected the people who got bullied. Was dyel, but not scared. I could always fit in, i guess.

I have some kind of fetish just to be big. People don't understand me, they think i need it to compensate, which is the case with many ppl.

Many ppl won't believe it nonetheless, so they always say things like;

>SMALL DICK
>MANLET
>UGLY
>AUTISM
>BULLIED

So, they feel better about themselves.
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>>35168199
my brother in law works on a pharmacy and they make test pills there, something like a d.bol, thats why i'm talking about pills, they would be free for me but i'm pretty lost here
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>>35168230
> i'm pretty lost here
clearly lol

reddit.com/r/steroids/wiki/index
:)
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>>35168239
Sup Chucky egg
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>>35168274
sup :3
>>
zomg passed my most difficult exam with 1%
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>>35168123
yup, just dont use a trip much these days
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>>35168334
coolcool :)

hows life?
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>>35162025
Let's say I'm an athlete and don't want to get caught doping.

Could you recommend something I can take for 21 days and will leave my system relatively quick? Plan on doing a few 3 week cycles a year.
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>>35168339
Hot as fark in joburg and literally counting down the hours until work ends on the 11th.

Hows a bout you? still in therapy for shoplifting or some shit (yes its been a while).
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>>35168361
Not possible due to PCT.
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>>35168307
Sounds fuckin easy as fuck to pass that exam. You passed with 1% lol
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>>35168400
I'm sure he meant passed by 1%
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>>35168412
Fuck off cumt I will wreck you, I will fuckin destroy you
>>
4/6 months in on:
850 test
700 deca
Dbol 25-50mg 4w on/off

Gained 35lbs so far. Just cut 23lbs on 3 weeks DNP. Looking good now, will cut another 10-15 in 2 months to get under 10%.
Added in 700tren for next 8 weeks cause I have a shit ton so why not. And switched up to 750 test/deca

Can't decide on which oral to go with for next 4-6w. Going with something I already have so either:
50 dbol
25 dbol/50drol - most likely. Did 50/100 last time and loved it.
25 dbol/15sdrol - sdrol for 3 weeks dbol for 6
100mg trest/ment oral

Not likely:
80mg Epi - not enough gains last time. Probably save for summer but I have way too much.
30mg sdrol - love it, but the gains always seem short lived. Would only run 3 weeks.
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>>35168361
>Hows a bout you? still in therapy for shoplifting or some shit
all that is sorted out
no record, nothing.
just had to attend some classes

just chilling on holiday now, chasing girls, pinning tren
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>>35168452
Also considering dropping test down to 500 and adding in mast, I love it too, but not sure if 500test 750deca 700 tren 525 mast would give me dick issues (none so far)
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>>35168387
prolonged cruising time interferes with therapy?
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>>35168450
Roid rage
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>>35166206
Do you run? I started doing 5ks and they are fun.

Running is a whole nother art form. Running shape is totally different from being "in shape" the way we think of it here in /fraud/. It's a great challenge. Go for it if you're physically able.
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>>35168487
PCT = Post cycle therapy a period where you use a SERM to kickstart your natural test production after you were shutdown due to the exogenous steroids in your body.

This usually follows a 6 week period however for an oral only cycle you could do it in 2 weeks., depending on it's length.
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>>35168525
SERMs don't contribute to test production. the only thing they do is block you from getting bitch tits and other bad estro effects as a result of low-test. exo test shuts down your natural test production but not estro (and kicks it up, even after you've run out of exo test). you can't use an AI at this point because you have nothing that aromatises, so you just get shit that blocks the receptors (hence why it's called selective estrogen receptor) to keep things in order while your HEPTA slowly comes back to life.

the only thing that actually jumpstarts your HEPTA is HCG, which causes your testicles to be more responsive to LH. once you're off of test and HCG, your body will produce its own LH, but if your boyparts haven't received an LH signal in 3 months, they'll be desensitized and take a particularly long time to re-adapt.

this is why people who say skip the HCG are total fucking retards, use no more than 250ius twice a week for at least 4 weeks leading up to the start of PCT (2 weeks after finishing test-e, for example)
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>>35168605
>SERMs don't contribute to test production
ummm

>The administration of tamoxifen, 20 mg/day for 10 days, to normal males produced a moderate increase in luteinizing hormone (LH), follicle-stimulating hormone (FSH), testosterone, and estradiol levels

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/640052
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>>35168605
you don't pct do you
>>
Hey guys

I started a cycle a few weeks ago - my 2nd one. I'm wondering how it will affect my training regime? I'm on a linear program with monthly increases to weight - Wendler's 5/3/1.

I think I can progress faster then adding 5-10 pounds per 4 weeks to the lift, but I also know how important it is to follow the program strictly. Is there still a way I can alter it? I'd want to get the most out of my gains.
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>>35168611
I respectfully renege on my statement.
Nonetheless, don't skip HCG.

>>35168620
I always do pct of course, I'm not a scientist but I'm also not a total dipshit
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>>35168624
>I respectfully renege on my statement.
tsall good.
we're all here to learn and shitpost :)
>>
BOYS! i desperately need a HGH source in Australia, should i just use darknet? help needed
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>>35168669
cyclefag

look him up
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>>35167825
>7825▶
>>>35167603
>>fuck every wife on the street
>>"i am fat as fatass, 20% bodyfat"
i live in a rough neighbourhood
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>>35168452
are you in IFBB, or are you just stupid
also my favorite oral so far is drol. I've never tried sdrol but people say it's intense in a bad way, and steroids.com said it's kind of overrated. Drol is really cheap and easy to manage at 50mg, and packs on ridiculous amounts of gains even compared to dbol.
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>>35168622
>my 2nd one
sure thing faggot.

>doing 5/3/1 on cycle
hahahaha
>>
>>35168699
I <3 sdrola
>>
>>35168700
Thanks for the help.
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>>35168700
this

unless you have really intensely high numbers, cycling is easy mode for linear gains, and in that case you don't need to be asking us for advice
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>>35168678
Can't find anything of relevance, can you email me at [email protected]? would really appreciate
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>>35168359
Bump for this
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>>35168755
I do, I've been doing 5/3/1 for about 4 years natty. I liked the program so I never got off of it.
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>>35168805
It's not possible unless you are ok with putting your natural testosterone levels at risk.
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>>35168359
niacin, look it up. studies confirm it completely flushes the body at high doses
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>>35168769
ygm

i used a temp email, so no point replying
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>>35168807
the whole point of 531, as Wendler outright states, is that it's designed to give long-term sustainable gains when there is no more efficient way to do it. if you're making faster and bigger gains on gear, what benefit does continuing the program do except feed your autism? take a fucking break and jump back on at the end of your cycle. don't squander your gains for the sake of programming, programming literally exists for the sake of gains you dense motherfucker
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>>35168869
Thanks for the advice, friend.
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>>35168869
>>35168951

I read his book, but it was 4 years ago so I did forget much of the content, though back then, it wasn't as important to me.
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>>35168824
Yeah I'm ok with that
>>35168825
Thanks a lot.

You guys know which compounds? I should take? Short acting test ethers?
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>>35168970
the methodology is simple: 5 pounds in 4 weeks. when you're on gear, until you get to 500+lbs on squat or so, you can still put on 2.5 to 10 lbs a week on many of your lifts.
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>>35169003
Test P and Dbol are your best options they take 3 weeks and 19 days to clear out of the body respectively.
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6'7 is the new manlet cutoff
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>>35169062
I wouldn't want to be that tall, it makes hooking up alot fucking harder.
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>>35169019
With the aid of niacin I assume
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>>35169114
>>35169114
>>35169114

new
thread
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>>35169062
That's a model, she's probably already so tall that only 0.5% of the world's men are taller.
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>>35169062
She only said that because her husband is 6'7. In the past she's dated manlets, she was even engaged to Lenny Kravits and he's 5'8.
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>>35169062
Aren't most people above 6'7 in the nba?
>>
400mg test e or sustanon for a first cycle?
>>
Man, these topics just make me depressed about being in Australia.
>>
How's this for a cutting cycle for 20 weeks?

500mg test
500mg deca
500mg mast


I have to avoid orals cause I have to drink for work 1x a week. Also I don't want to take tren because I REALLY like deca for the joints and deca + tren might spike prolactin too high..
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