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What's your insecurity, /fa/? No "im alpha i lift weight

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What's your insecurity, /fa/?
No "im alpha i lift weight breh :D" bullshit, you all have insecurities

Mine is my profile, there's something weird about it.
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lifting weight is not /fa/
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>>9731348
i'm 15 kilos too heavy.
>tfw broad muscly shoulders make shirts fit weirdly

why the fuck did i lift jfc
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>>9731348
posture
eyebrows
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discolored teeth
lack of muscle/build
dark spots under my eyes
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Constant need to impress, attention seeking and too hard on myself.
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I've got allergies, so I often look tired.
I also have dry skin, because of a hormonal thing, but it sometimes becomes sores and scabs, which is awful.
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My only insecurity is my scoliosis. It causes me back to look un-even. With clothes you can't tell. However, I can't wear just Tshirts.

>Perfect skin
>Ottermode
>Gray eyes
>Dirty-blonde hair
>6-feet tall
>8in p33n.

Couldn't be anymore depressed about my appearance though...
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the fact that im a white guy in japan

ie my whiteness
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>>9731348
Acne
Yellowish teeth
58.5cm head on a 5'11" frame
Girl wrists
High hairline
8cm high hairline
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>>9731348
Everything
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>>9731394
Op here, same. Fuck.
Its weird because someone thakes photos of my profile it looks alright but fuck it when I take em. Like is that the same individual?
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I can only talk to girls when I'm 100% sure they are not interested in me.
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>>9731405
What's the big deal? Don't japanese girls like attractive gaijin?
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>>9731505
in the memeworld of 4chan and fantasy, sure maybe
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>>9731523
They can't be that racist. Surely they must find an attractive white man to be a exotic catch?
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>>9731529
They do, it's a well known fact. This guy is probably a dick.
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>>9731529
theyd prefer something more familiar. its in their culture to be samey, not different like in the west.

plus just by looking at you they assume you cant speak any japanese or are only here for a short time so they dont bother.

even if you speak well they value relationship, so they want you to be super fluent. but this is getting away from appearance stuff i guess
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>>9731547
>Not going for superior Koreans
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im a balding manlet
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>>9731549
korea is harder to go to, and is a shittier place to live in general
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>>9731348

Have bitch hips n gyno :/

At least I don't have klinefelters
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>>9731555
What's bad about it? Apart from their terrible history and the fact you need a degree, of course.
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>>9731348
I'm far too fat to be browsing this board.

Unless all the skeletons are lying as well. In which case I'm fine.
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>>9731569
go to korea and japan and youll see


its dirtier and just shit in general


and risk of army of kim jongs walking in everyday
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>wake up
>feel like a worthless piece of shit that won't ever amount to anything in this world.
>start work on thesis
>Dread the day where people find out I'm a fraud athat doesn't know shit about anything I'm researching.
>Cook dinner, eat, lift weights
>Feel like a fat fuck
>Watch movie
>Go to sleep contemplating my end.
>repeat
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>>9731589
But if you work on your thesis, don't you someday find out what you are talking about?
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>>9731348
My legs aren't long enough.
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teeth
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I should make my fast writing rounder.
Not a bad insecurity tbh lol
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Hips,nose, teeth, im pretty happy with face I guess, also I really feel uncomfortable with the way my legs look to others
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im alpha i lift weight breh :D
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Im in the army so if i wear unique fit's all my mates call me a fgt and feed me.
im shit with qt's
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>>9731605
i went crosseyed looking at the top half of the page
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>>9731753
Yeah it's not sharp
Or was that some kind of an insult lol
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>>9731605
suomi mainittu :-DDDD
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>>9731763
Give that man a "tää :D"
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>>9731348
>voice sounds like I have a cold constantly
>constantly trying to recover from postural kyphosis
>back hair (it's hella mild, and you can't tell unless you really look, but it's there)
>profile
>slight buck teeth
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I can't stop farting. Ever.
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>>9731950

Jess?
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>>9731950
Savage
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>>9731348
Really messed up feet and toes to the point where it can sometimes hurt to walk always painful to run.

>skinny as calves
>no ass
>walk like a duck.
> lift weights so upper body/core a little too thick compared to lower.
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Don't really have any insecurities

>flawless skin
>/fit/
>3% body fat
>white
>blue eyes
>6'3"
>8x6 penis
>receive daily eyefucks from passing qts

Honestly, I just come here to observe betas in their natural habitat
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>>9731355
being a fat fuck isn't either.
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>>9731348
my mouth and jaw, i swear that if i cover my mouth and jaw i look 10x better
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small benis :DDDD
otherwise I'm handsome as fuck. Good I'm compensating for something
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>>9732137

when people write shit like this and don't post pic they're 100% always the complete opposite of described
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>>9732146

>tfw you're handsome, 6'2" feet tall, and have a big dick
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head is uneven...like one side is flat and the other is rounder. also one ear curves in and the other curves out...i also have a shit, low, round hairline from my mexican mom...pretty much my whole face is not /fa/
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>>9732148

somebody's jelly

stop being so mad uggo, then you can at least say you have a good personality
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>>9732149
6'3" here manlet
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>>9732156

but you have a small dick soooo

lmao, i don't have time for this, my gf's coming over
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>>9732137
you forgot to say you have autism since you brag about yourself on an image board
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>>9732137
>3% body fat
Nigga even ripped bodybuilders don't have bf so low
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>>9732163
Manlets, will they ever learn?
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I'm Asian and there are very few benefits to being Asian. I'm short, I'm considered ugly, and very few people respect Asian guys. It's always hurtful to see Asian girls start dating white guys, but then I can't blame them. Asian guys suck. I really hate being an Asian guy.
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>>9732137
same except
>my skin glows like diamonds in the sunlight
>i don't lift and im naturally ottermode
>0% body fat
>rainbow
>white eyes
>8'5"
>3 foot x 1 foot penis
>receive daily blowjobs from passing qts

Honestly, I just come here to observe deluded betas in their natural habitat
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>>9732154

ahahahaha yeah k post pic

hope this escapist fantasy has helped ease your internal torment for a few precious minutes
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>>9732137
>3% body fat
Nope.
>8x6 penis
8cm long? That's a microdick, dude.

>Honestly, I just come here to observe betas in their natural habitat
You're welcome, fellow beta.
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>>9731592

I guess but that's the point of the insecurity. I'm afraid it's all just bullshit and somebody'll call me out on it sooner or later (via low self esteem and underestimating self worth).
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>>9732209
> I'm afraid it's all just bullshit and somebody'll call me out on it sooner or later
Is it your PhD thesis? Let me guess, humanities or law? It can't be something as tangible as engineering/medicine, since if that were the case you should be able to decisively evaluate your degree of knowledge about the subject matter of your thesis.
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>>9732144
Tfw

>waiting for minoxidil to finally grow me a beard to cover my terrible jaw
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Receding hairline is definitely the biggest, but also posture, small mouth, fair/sparse eyelashes.
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my facebook page
haven't updated profile pic since i was 15 (18 now) and it's a stupid selfie of my chubby face and long hair
i look really different, but for some reason i really cannot bring myself to change it's like i'm afraid or something
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>>9732178
kill yourself then you fucking gook
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ever since i got a gf, a fulltime job and moved into an apartment farther away from my gym, i just havent been going. ive put probably 15 pounds back on maybe more.
I have naturally wide hips and a genetic predisposition to storing fat in my thighs and love handles, and some of my clothes are starting to not fit properly, but i cant find the motivation in myself to get back to watching my diet and getting back to lifting.
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>>9731575
dirtier?? what kind of hick town are you living in. comparing toronto to seoul was like night and day. there was a lot of drunk business men/guys just spitting on the street which was kinda nasty, but besides that yeah the major cities in america/europe do not compare to the ones in japan/korea in terms of cleanliness
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My ears are a bit asymmetrical. And my nostrils as well. I know most people don't notice these things and that they are actually really common but I still feel kind of insecure about them.
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My big ass and protruded belly
>tfw skinnyfat
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>>9732209
Pretty sure it's normal to have periods of intense doubt when you're writing a thesis or something else of that nature. I think it's supposed to be that way, and you're also not supposed to already be a specialist while you're doing it or before starting.

When you're done with it, you can look back and see how much you've learned about the subject, possibly becoming one of the top specialists. But's it's all a process.

Lastly if someone challenges your research you have to see it as an opportunity to question the value of your work and possibly improve it, which any serious person if your field will value in the end.
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>>9731547
wow, dating a chink must be hell
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Too naturally tryhard/aspie. can't be natural. talk too much. depressed. god complex in the worst possible way. no fun to be around. bitter. slightly puffy nips.
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my skin, i would kill to have a perfect skin (sometimes i get a pimple or two but thats it) its just the skin as whole :(
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>>9732221
i´m waiting for my kidneys to work again so i can get rid of all this puffines and get a slimmer face
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My skin is like, chalky vampire white, looks odd as fuck when wearing white shirts and my dark hair makes me look pasty.

I'm a big guy (4u) naturally, 6ft2 205lbs and not even fat. Huge shoulders, chest and thighs. Can't ever be very /fa/. Started lifting this year, may as well embrace my size rather than fighting it.

Shitty facial hair too.
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>>9731348
My height (177 cm)
My body (no muscles, somewhere between skinny and skinnyfat)
My loud breathing
My not being white, blonde and blue-eyed
My penis (small when flaccid, 15 cm when erect)
My body hair (lots of it from the waist below, not enough on my arms and chest)

Most of the time I can turn off the caring, but when my blood sugar is low...
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>>9731547

If you're living there then become fluent, take more classes, it's only good manners really.
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my breasts
my thighs
my acne/red marks/my skin in general
my stretch marks
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>5'8. Even with shoes and posture still a pathetic 5'9
>weird profile
>insanely bad with girls
>disgusting feet from 8+ miles a day running
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I fucked up my right leg due to a car accident
I think I walk funny and I can't run :^(
>tfw can't play tennis
I really need rehab
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>>9732148
>>9732156
>>9732167
>>9732171
>>9732177
>>9732182
>>9732184
>>9732195

lmao at all these threatened betas
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>>9732606

This guy is babydicked shitskin manlet uggo

Also, blonde hair on guys is gay unless it's dirty blonde

Faaaaaag
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5`8
skinny
receding hairline
bad posture
socially inept
noticeable overbite
crooked, previously broken nose
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>>9731348

I can't be seen around overweight/chubby girls. Embarrasses the fuck out of me
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my age

i'm gonna be 26, spent 6 years on cocoon mode and now that i'm ready i feel too old but at the same time i still feel like i'm 18
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>>9732716

deformed balding manlet lol

>>9732737

lmao at this old loser still posting on 4chan
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>>9732723

Confirmed virgin
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>>9732737

What's it like being an old miserable cuck
Does it suck knowing you wasted the best years of your life? Pathetic.
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>>9732149
you have really tall feet
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Body hair
Back acne
stretch marks
basically my skin in general
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>>9731368

I bet you have a shitty personality too
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>>9731473
wtf man why?
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>>9731473
weird, my problem is the exact opposite
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>>9732785

Wow you sound ugly as fuck
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>>9732774

not really cos i wouldn't have enjoyed them anyway the way i was
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>>9732795
My face is above average so i can actually get a lot of girls to like me, but when it comes to sex im just too insecure about my body.
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>>9732799

Drop dead, fag, nobody wants to hear your old whining
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>>9732804

Get fucked cunt
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>>9732803

Girls don't like you. And your body sounds disgusting so at least you got that right
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>>9731348
>5'11''
>have a mole on my neck and one on my back
>braces atm
>could be skinnier
other than that I'm pretty comfortable with how i present on a whole. I could have a healthier lifestyle and better posture tho.
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im not really that insecure, just kinda depressed and not really ready to put myself back out there so to speak.
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>>9732809
Better than being a virgin :^)
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i used to be insecure of being a turbomanlet (5'4 kek) but
since i realised (4 years ago maybe) I'm pretty much half a lightyear ahead of most people my age and that i don't have any issues getting on with women i stopped worrying and nobody else never worried or cared that much either
I've been told other guys envy me :^)

also sometimes i feel too harsh when i speak with friends and say stuff like "nah fuck this" in public
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>>9732813

>says the bacne'd virgin
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>>9732814

So you abandoned reality after realizing you were a doomed manlet? Cool beans, midget.
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>>9732827
no
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KEK KEK KEK KEK
E I'm 5"4' E
KEK KEK KEK KEK
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>>9732833

Aww is the poor wittle manwet crying? Boo hoo :..( Poor delusional midget
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top thread right here
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Having insecurities is not /fa/
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>>9732137
top bait of this thread
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>>9732364
work on your posture
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>>9732812

Yeah it's probably because you suck tbh
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>>9732838
poor guy who thinks he's clever :..(
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I browse /fa/
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>>9732804
Jesus
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>>9732863

Lol this midget is so hurt

You're 5'4", nobody finds you attractive. You're an embarrassment to men
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>>9732869
lol not actually that guy i just think it's adorable how cool you think you sound right now.
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>>9732877

Manlet apologist = manlet

Keep denying it, midget :^)
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>>9732882
lmao enjoy the new dance gavin dance album :*
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>>9732882
>>9732888
what are you guys doing
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>>9732902

Being alpha as fuck
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No control over my dreams.

Not even over who I am or what I want to do in my dreams. It's fucking horrible, I can feel that something is wrong with the way I look or behave in my dreams but I can't identify what it is until I wake up.

The sickest fit can't fix that.

Also I have a fat, flabby ass.
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>>9732814
I mean it's pretty cool that you can buy kids clothing for cheaper
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>>9732908

Go outside
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>>9731547
Honestly it just seems like they have high standards and aren't impressed by big amazing white man. Good on them.

You guys ridicule any fresh of the boat broken english speaking immigrant to shit, like it's not even imaginable that he would get some nice pretty white girl. Anyone not completely adjusted to the american/western way of life is laughed at. Why is this any different?
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>>9732152
>also one ear curves in and the other curves out
same here, but i don't feel too bad about it because brad pitt has similar ears.
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>>9732957

you're not brad pitt
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>>9732908
Can anybody control their dreams?
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>>9732961
i am tho
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>>9731348
Always had a belly and slow metabolism my whole life. It's super frustrating as I diet, do cardio, and lift, and have been losing weight. But the flab stays. Years of running mean my legs are extremely toned; they look good in slim fitting clothes. But my upper half is very out of proportion, which can make it difficult to create good fits. Also, permanent dark spots under eyes (genetic thing).
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>>9732698
>>9732745
why are you so mean

regards: a person you didn't reply to
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literally my only insecurity is my height.
im 5'6" but i have a handsome face, i'm aryan with good hair, have a good personality, i'm musically talented, relatively atheltic, and i'm generally a person people want to be around. but i'm fucking 5'6" man. like whats the point of being cool if i can't be tall and cool. i honestly think that the reason i'm short is because if i were taller it would just be unfair to everyone else because i'd pull like a motherfucker as my height is the only thing that stifles my confidence.

oh well at least i have good proportions and i'm not fat
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tfw underbite
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>>9731605

Ihana käsiala! Oikeasti.
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>>9731348
I've got ugly feet
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Atopic dermatitis. Thats about it. F*cking sucks.
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>>9733085
mä taas en saanu tosta mitään selvää
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>>9731450

Try to change your jaw positioning. Or have a nose job. I don't see what else it could be
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>>9731348
I'm too beautiful and people are afraid to talk to me
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>>9732888
>Strong 1 to a light 2
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>>9731573
same, anyway i do dress better since i lurk here
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Not having any friends really gets me down. It means there's not much point in having a good fit and makes meeting new people impossible because nobody wants to be friends with someone who has none.
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small dong, at most it's five inches. I could stand to be more fit but I'm 6' at 170 pounds so it isn't too terrible.
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>>9731348
skinny fat and acne
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>>9733528
>makes meeting new people impossible because nobody wants to be friends with someone who has none.
if you're an interesting person, I don't see what the problem would be
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>>9733543
also i think my eyes are too close together, that's why i prefer glasses to contacts
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>>9733546
It must come off as weird, right? I ended up like this by having all my other friends become antisocial so I haven't always been like this but now it plays on my mind a lot.
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>>9733561
No, not at all.

If you're someone I *enjoy* spending my time with (ie you are friendly, and I can relate to you) then I sure as hell will spend time with you.

It's a good idea to explore your interests, whatever they may be. Join a club at school, play on a team, go to whatever events are related to your interests. You'll naturally gravitate towards likeminded people as long as you have a friendly personality.

I'm kinda socially awkward (anxious? or shy) but I'm working on it :^)
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My under-eyes. They're not baggy, but you can see them clearly and almost look sunken in
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Hair is not straight, is not curly maybe wavy.
But atleast i'm never going bald
That's good right?! ff/fa/? r-right?
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my height
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>>9733607
broe it looks fine
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>>9731473
same dude
my few female friends are either in relationships or lesbians
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>>9731348
my penis is too big
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I'm jap so I've been cursed with having snaggletooth genes.
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im alpha as fuark brosky
used to be insecure until i picked up a girl in a country where i didn't even speak the language and i realized it was all in my mind
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Bad skin. So dependent on my diet and I'm stress eating like a motherfucker
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>>9731473
oh haha same it sucks
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>acne
>178 cm
>No jawline
>Shy
>I can't make a long conversation
>Shitty skin tone
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>>9731348
>confidence (always hold my own hand or put them in pockets)
>always suspect everyone who i can hear that laughs is laughing at me
>acne
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I am literally balding, not just some weak hairline shit. The top of my head is a corona of light, thin hair compared to longer, darker strands around it. I used to buzz it frequently but my friends are encouraging me to grow it out since they don't think it's so bad but honestly I don't think the top's even gonna get any longer, It just looks shitty
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>>9731348
My skin is good but the colour is wrong
I have anemia so my hair is not as thick and shiny as it used to be. Hopefully taking iron supplements will make it better
My breasts are too small
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>>9734809

>>confidence (always hold my own hand or put them in pockets)

what does that have to do with confidence, me and some of the most confident guys i know do that all the time
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>Confidence
> No white teeths
>I have my standards too really high, even when I'm not the great thing

man, the girls that I know always tell me that my hair is cool, even the one who rejected me last week, so I'm not too fucked
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>>9731348
My hair fucking sucks.
Also teeth.
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bad symmetry
weak jawline from mouthbreathing
too skinny
shit posture
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I'm a straight male with a gorgeous ass. I've been told about it by too many people.
Also I'm actually pretty good at vulgar humor and dark humor and insulting people, but wherever society expects me to act nice (I'm an Eagle Scout for fuck's sake) the most I can manage is to be a boring sack of shit that looks depressed. I guess I'm just a mean person by nature.
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>>9732606
you sound like me but im smaller and white
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>>9732784
Your must have a really small brain
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my spine is curved near my neck because i went through puberty being severly depressed and looking down and hiding my face with my hair while walking

i have near perfect posture now, but with my head up straight there's still an obvious curve at the top of my back. thought it was just a weird place where fat was stored or whatever but lost weight and my buffalo hump looking shit is still there. can see my spine and its curved
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my virginity
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>>9731355
not even listening to tricky ricky? i hate slobs trying to justify their lack of discipline
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>>9731348
fucking crotch tents. its always fucking crotch tents. odds are a good 75% that if i put on a random pair of pants they will tent on me
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>>9734909
whoosh et etc
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>tfw people have always found you extremely attractive/told you to consider modeling
>tfw you see a beast in the mirror

goat jawline and cheekbones but asymmetrical face
hairline is shit
skin is shit from dark acne scarring and bad texture
ugly as fuck nose that completely kills my face and ruins my profile
one nostril bigger than the other
right eye is smaller/slightly droopier than left
teeth are pretty straight but somehow look chipped/jagged at the bottoms?? dentist refuses to file them down

i never understand any of the compliments i get. my left side profile and my right look like two completely different people (right side is much much uglier) even the teeth on that side of my face look worse. what the fuck
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>>9732755

Confirmed beta
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>>9732755
>if you're not into fat chicks you're a virgem xD

Get fucked reddit cuck
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>>9731348
>be white
>have microdick
>went to doc and he said sorry

wtf. i do make $80k a year tho and i wear sicc cops but idk, want to die every time i go to pee
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>>9731348

Too skinny

I feel like I step into some upside-down world when I come on here

You all realize that skinny isn't attractive at all when you have a penis, right? Yes, you're right that I look good in a fashion aspect but in the real world, I look like a malnourished twig

>inb4 I do it for women

Don't be skinny you fucktards. Take it from someone who is literally dying just to be "normal." It sucks.

As I'm choking down food sometimes I wonder HOW THE FUCK DO PEOPLE GET FAT.
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Read more on this topic here - https://archived.moe/talk/thread/1694/


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