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Ok /fa/, it is time to prove your worth.

This thread is for discussing of the arts. Paintings, sculptures, film, haute couture, discuss it all here. I shall commence by posting this guide of films.
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The Machinist for goal aesthetic
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>>9709240
>/fa/ - Fashion
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>>9709255
If you believe fashion is only limited to hair threads and white sneaker threads get off this board please.
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>>9709240
Some of those films are terrible.

>Inception
ayyy
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>>9709364
I don't get why inception would be posted here at all. It's like a way overhyped movie that mostly teen ninegaggers are drooling over. Inglorious Basterds is cool but it doesn't belong here as well.
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>>9709364
>>9709403
post some recs man come on
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>>9709403
>a way overhyped movie that mostly teen ninegaggers are drooling over
I couldn't have said it better
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>>9709411
Birdman as of recent. Loved every second of it. The darjeeling limited, wes anderson in general. The skin I live in for something more unsettling
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>>9709240
>No Raise The Red Lantern
>No Lola Montès
>No b&w Antonioni
>No The Color Of Pomegranates

hahaha shit list 3/10
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>>9709364
i like inception, but damn it is defs not /fa/
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>>9709240
How do you even begin a discussion on art? I feel like pretty much all art is /fa/. There's not like a group of artists you can suggest that are fashionable. If they're any good, they're probably /fa/ regardless of the subject matter.
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>>9709411
Chungking Express, Tree of Life, Under the Skin, Trainspotting, Shame
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>>9709266
should add Beyond The Black Rainbow.
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>>9709847
Beyond the Black Rainbow was an interesting experience. If you don't feel like watching it, this Lorn music video pretty much summarizes the entire movie.
https://youtu.be/SH-o7edhqss
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>tfw gigantic film backlog
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Muh modern effay films
>Stoker
>Palo Alto
>Nightcrawler
>Frank
>Maps to the Stars
>Only Lovers Left Alive
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>>9709896
>film, anime, video game and book backlogs are each reaching for the hundred
You don't know my suffering, no one knows
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>>9709982
>300+ film backlog
>1000+ album backlog
>never watch or listen to any of it
>delete and start again
feels good.
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I like philosophy, classics, tea, art music, nightwalks and paintings. Techno interests me. Which /fa/ designers would I like?

you could crosspost this OP.
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anyone watched god help the girl? it's silly and hipster but some of the outfits and (especially) sets are quite amazing.
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>>9710253
Heh, have this antique hand-knotted Persian rug! (Thanks, Mom, Dad.)
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All of Rohmer's films are fa. And of course ozu for the jap dadcore goat aesthetic.

Most fa film is probably plein soleil. The original talented Mr Ripley.
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>>9710194
dries van noten
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>>9712575
was just gonna say Plein soleil, dat body aesthetic
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>>9712612
would recommend Grande Bellezza aswell. great decors and nice clothes
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>>9709846
Stalker, Videodrome, Wild at Heart, The Master...
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TINKER
TAILER
SOLDIER
SPY
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Ok guys, most /fa/ literature. What are your picks?

Mine:
>The Picture of Dorian Gray
>The Bell Jar

Any recs?
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>>9709438
>>9709846
>>9709893
>>9709931
>>9710253
>>9712612
>>9712575
>>9712640
>tfw /fa/ has semi-decent taste in film
Neato
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Great Gatsby was pretty gud.
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I just can't get over the aesthetics of it. So surreal.
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>>9712665
this

really liked that movie
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>>9709437
reddit pls go
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Mad Max.
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>>9712679
>>The Picture of Dorian Gray
>>The Bell Jar
just finish intro to literature 101 at your local community college?

anyways, if you're looking for /fa/ literature just kill yourself already. look for good literature. here are a small handful of recommendations

>flaubert's madame bovary
>goethe's faust
>mann's magic mountain
>wolfe's look homeward angel
>dostoevsky's brothers karamazov
>turgenev's fathers and sons
>lawrence's sons and lovers
>zola's la debacle

that should give you a good start
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Lol @ no one but OP mentioning A Single Man.

The whole thing is one long Tom Ford advert
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>>9712929
if you didn't read Faust and The Brothers Karamazov in the original German/Russian you are a fucking pleb
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>>9712929
>good literature
>not mentioning Boris Vian, Charles Beadelaire, Benjamin Constant or Sartre.

Also, I preferred Zola's Thérèse Raquin over la debacle. Germinal was also better IMO.
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>>9712950
it's in the OP ya doofus
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My Own Private Idaho
The Doom Generation
Force Majeure
The Graduate


books? Read whatever interests you, try and follow a "path" and you'll only ruin reading for yourself.

I'd say read Haruki Murakami. He's very popular with hipster girls, is easy to begin with and does start producing some good reads in his career. Read a few of those, then try a better Japanese (for example)author, maybe Mashima. Once you a feel for reading, just go to stores and find new authors. Enjoy the experience of gathering self knowledge - that is /fa/.
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>>9712969
germinal is one of my favorite books (the sex scene at the very end is legendary), therese raquin is good too. I suggested la debacle because it gives an historical sweep and a story of a great friendship like few other novels do. I like benjamin constant to, both his political writings as well as his literary ones. I appreciate baudelaire, but he was more of a poet, no? Sartre I can't get into. I never saw a whole lot of merit in any of the existentialist literature I've read. I've read a lot of Sartre's philosophy too, the way he tries to synthesize hegel and heidegger is a total failure imo. I can appreciate the man, but I wouldn't recommend him to others. And I've never heard of boris vian.

i just started a thread on /lit/ on zola actually
>>>/lit/6411738
but because it's not about DFW or Pynchon i doubt anyone will actually contribute to it
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>>9709240
I like Haneke's "La Pianiste" much more than I liked the Adrien Brody film
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>>9712982
>I'd say read Haruki Murakami. He's very popular with hipster girls, is easy to begin with and does start producing some good reads in his career.
I've read almost all of Murakami's works. He is popular with hipster girls, I have to admit, and I often use it as an opener when chatting with them on okcupid or whatever.

But in general, murakami has the problem of writing the same damn story with the damn damn protagonist every single book. Sure, they're enjoyable and intriguing reads, but after a while you begin to realize that there's nothing profound about them. His last two novels 1Q84 and Colorless Tskuru were pretty weak in my opinion.

Best Murakami novels are Kafka on the Shore, Dance Dance Dance, and Wind-up Bird Chronicle. His short story collection "After the Quake" is pretty good too, as are the interviews he conducts with the witnesses to the Tokyo subway poison gas attacks.

I think he's a very thoughtful person but has trouble breaking out of his comfort zone.
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>>9713013
Sartre ruined existentialism when he tried to synthesize it with Marxism. He was pretty critical of Heidegger, but his criticism is unconvincing; moreover, Heidegger adequately and irrevocably criticized Sartre's entire system, that it's not particularly important to read his philosophy. He's a slightly better playwright than prose writer.
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>>9713015
tripsk how r u doing i miss chatting wtih you on tc
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>>9713041
He broke his comfort zone when he wrote after dark, but then regressed back into it thereafter. I wish I hadn't read after dark as my first murakami book because everything else was a disappointment.
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>>9713046
Well in that time you basically had to be "in" with the establishment French marxism (Stalinism) in order to get a job in academia. Sartre was never a good Marxist anyways, but neither were any of the French for that matter. Sure he was critical of Heidegger (at least Sartre talks about freedom!), but I feel like he is still very much influenced by the problems Heidegger poses. But I absolutely despire Heidegger and the influence that he's had. I remember reading the entirety of Being and Time for a course taught by a jewish professor sympathetic to Heidegger. It was then that I learned even jews could be sympathetic to nazi ideas. And despite the teenaged edgelords on this site, there's nothing remotely /fa/ about nazism.

Nowadays I try not to read any philosophy written after Hegel (I take seriously his claim that he's the end of philosophy)
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>>9709240
>Stand By Me not listed
Holy plebbing fuck
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>>9713060
yes, I suppose I forgot about that one. He experiments with a lot of different kinds of characters in that one, right? It's more disjointed than his more well-known works, right?

He still has quite a few years left of productive activity, so hopefully he can write something new. I've read some of his recent short stories he's been getting published in the New Yorker, but they aren't nearly as good as some of his earlier stories in something like the Elephant Vanishes

i really hope he can break out of his slump. he's honestly the only living novelist I bother keeping up with
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>>9709240
Everything with Ryan Gosling
He's the epitome of /fa/
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>>9713041
What about that children's book, The Strange Library? I got it for my little sister and it was rather different but beautiful all the same.
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>>9713118
I haven't read it yet. I didn't even know it came out until my friend told me about it after I suggested she read Murakami. She was supposed to send it to me but then she lost it (?) apparently. I want to read it, maybe I'll just go to barnes and noble and read it in one sitting.

But I've been re-reading Kafka on the Shore recently and have been thinking that it's actually a YA novel. If I were a high school english teacher I would assign it
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>>9713151
i forgot i already went to barnes and noble and they had the book shrinkwrapped so you couldn't open it
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>>9713151
Idk if I would call him YA. Because we would first have to settle the issue of what classifies as Ya, then ultimately discuss pure and mass literature. I think we should just examine and analyze murakami's texts. I'm quite interested in his understanding of selfhood in a cosmopolitan meta-fiction: Sputnik sweetheart and Kafka on the shore, and somewhat in after dark
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>>9713187
i was referring to kafka on the shore specifically. the protagonist is a 15 y/o boy after all, in a process of self-discovery and to a lesser extent, sexual exploration. I don't really care for the label of "YA" either, I was just thinking how if I were a HS english teacher I would think about assigning it
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>>9713198
Well Proust's protagonist in the Search is roughly around 13 in the book. I agree I think that assigning Kafka on the shore to high school student would be great because I think they could relate more to the hyper accelerated modernity in murakami's works.
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>>9713214
>because I think they could relate more to the hyper accelerated modernity in murakami's works.
where are you getting that from? it's not in kafka on the shore, the kid spends most of his time either in an old library or in a cabin in the woods, completely isolated from the rest of the world. I think you're projecting theoretical themes onto a book when they simply aren't there
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>>9709240
>schindlers list
>inglorious basterds
>the pianist
yes, yes, good guy
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>>9712696

it was horrendous the soundtrack absolutely ruined any merit it might have had, I didn't watch the whole had to turn it off I disliked it so much
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>>9713224
>murakami's works
Did you just ignore that? Because those "theoretical themes" exist in his works. I don't think you understanding projection nor comparative literature
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>>9713106
someone suggest me some gosling shit please??
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I read Solhenitsyn's cancer ward recently, anyone want to discuss it?
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>>9713151
Check your public library. I read it there the first time
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>>9709437
yea birdman was great
calvary was deffinately my recent top pick though
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>>9713329
yeah, i live in bumfuck nowhere :/
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>>9713262
drive, the place beyond the pines
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>>9712911
you wot
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>>9713078
>being this much much of an jew
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>>9713487
birdman and wes anderson and classic reddit tier

>>9713502
i'm not a jew, nor do i have any special place in my heart for them
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>>9713078
>at least Sartre talks about freedom!
>Philosophy is not about investigating problems by smithing concepts
>It is about being axiologicaly nice
>Sein und Zeit
>nazi ideas
>Hegel was not as deeply ironic as Plato when he said that he was the end of philosophy


Damn son, never go full retard like this
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>>9712969
>Constant

lel

Kafka seems to be missing much more in the list.
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Goodfellas
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>>9709240

/fa/ wise, there are 3 movies that should be considered as fine ; no more, no less. And it is :

Citizen Kane
Le Ballon Rouge
Leon
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>>9714002
don't really like kafka
if you're going after german literature read die räuber by schiller

kafka is too dark for my bright world view
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>>9714029

If you do not read Kafka as he wrote it, i.e. bursting in laughter, you're doing it wrong.
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>>9714002
kafka is entry level pleb shit

you literally read that trash in school
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>>9714042
Ow shit, here comes the plebeian aristocraty
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>>9709437
I expected a lot more from The Skin I Live In. Some parts were beautiful but mostly it was not as weird as it made itself out to be in trailers and movie promos.
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>>9714052
*tips peasant cap*
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>>9714076

I prefer my peasant when they know where they come from.

You know, a farm maid wisthling a popular song is, in a way, much more deep than any kind of literature.

But everytime she tries to talk about cultural objects, the results are just ridiculous.

Learn to know your place.
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OP here, good to see this thread still alive. pleb me for forgetting literature.

keep it up ladies and gents
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a book and film I very much enjoyed was funeral in berlin, but then again I do have a soft spot for old espionage films and literature. the storyline for this one in particular I enjoyed
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SARTRE
SARTRE
SARTRE
SARTRE
SARTRE
NOT EVEN BEING IRONIC

also Christopher Hitchens :)
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Let's post some haute couture.

Pic related is by Iris van Herpen, probably one of my favourite designers at the moment, her ready-to-wear collection are very good as well.
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>>9714118
The dialectical process of irony in philosophy since Plato is quite hard to grasp.

You either choose to point out serious problems by being ironic, as Plato or Nietzsche, or to hide your irony by pointing out serious problems, as Kant or Descartes.

Sartre tried to hide serious problems under simulated irony to obtain social success which he seemed to disdain as if it was a serious problem resulting in his eyes not being able to focus on one thing at the same time
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>>9713013
if you can read french definitely check out vian's "L'écume des jours" or "Froth on the Daydream" in english. It sucks that Vian never really got the recognition he deserves for his masterpiece. "Automne à Pékin" is also a good read. (Autumn in Peking is the english version). I read both of these in french so idk how well they translate to english but they were both incredible.
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>>9714158
If you can read french, then go full Celine, Bloy, Vialatte, Gide.
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>>9714169
literally who?
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What to read on German?
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>>9714174

Louis Ferdinand Céline, Voyage au bout de la nuit, Mort à crédit
Léon Bloy, La Femme pauvre, Le Désespéré and his incredible Exegèse des lieux communs of course
Alexandre Vialatte, Les Fruits du Congo, Battling le ténébreux, Le Fluide rouge, Le Fidèle Berger
André Gide, Les Caves du Vatican, Les Faux-monnayeurs, Si le Grain ne meurt

Fuck !
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>>9714178
Kant, Schelling, Fichte, Hegel, Hölderlin, Schopenhauer, Nietzsche, Husserl und Heidegger.
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Are neo-Christian / Satanic themes /fa/?
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>>9714246
Even /fa/ knows limits to its faggottry.
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>>9714246
picking nd choosing random elements of gnostic mysticism does not make you /fa/

it does not even make you intelligent

it makes you a goober /x/ faggot poser
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>>9714246
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>>9713262
>>9713433
blue valentine and lars and the real girl too
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>>9714333
Don't watch Blue Valentine if you want to have any hope of being in a happy relationship for the next six months.
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more Iris van Herpen
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>>9714472
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>>9714476
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>>9714500
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>>9713957
literally what?
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>>9714504
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>>9714094
>You know, a farm maid wisthling a popular song is, in a way, much more deep than any kind of literature.
no its not
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>>9714513

captcha: ilift

lol no i dont really though
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>>9714039
>If you do not read Kafka as he wrote it, i.e. bursting in laughter, you're doing it wrong.
kafka is very funny, I have to admit. i guess he has dark themes, but in general it's very humorous
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>>9714518
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>>9714516

Go ask Tolstoï, the bitch was crying all day thinking about some muzhik.
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>no goodfellas
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>>9714561
look
>>9714017
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>>9712969
>Boris Vian
my fucking duuuudddeee
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picture of the original godzilla set are pretty effay imo
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>>9714588
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>>9714591
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>>9712969
>not l'assommoir
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>>9714593
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>>9714561
tbh im surprised no one has mentioned fear and loathing in las vegas yet. love the soundtrack for that film.

by the way, im think of opening a thread like this more often, any ideas how to name it? i was thinking finer arts or something among the likes of that. not certain yet. so far this thread has been pretty good, i have a big list of books i want to read and films to watch now.
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>>9713884
Wes Anderson maybe. But Birdman? Why exactly?
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>>9714599
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Films with matte paintings
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if anyone wants more ill post them
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>>9714611
yee
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>>9714615
the first godzilla was really morbid. the movie literally starts with like 1000 people dying from radiation cancer and burns.
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>>9714561
>End of Evangelion
>anywhere near the realm of a good, let alone /fa/ film

It's the worst surface level symbolism possible.
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>>9714622

If anyone is interested in reading about the effects of severe exposure to radiation:
http://s1.zetaboards.com/anthroscape/topic/5463094/1/

>Ouchi's intestines began to melt, so doctors put a camera in his rectum to monitor their condition. His muscular tissue broke down to the point where it began to slide off of his bones. He died 82 days after exposure of multiple organ failure in a condition that can be described as "skeletonized".
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american/canadian
one flew over the cuckoos nest
mulholland drive
lost highway
the good the bad and the ugly
apocalypse now
videodrome
existenz
taxi driver
fargo
lebowski
jackie brown
primer

eastern european
solyaris
stalker
andrei rublev
satantango
the dekalog
the lives of others

french
les trois coleurs (kieslowski is polish but these are in french)
les regles du jeu
À bout de souffle
La haine
mon oncle

italian
bicycle theives
kaos
8 1/2
la dolce vita

japanese
seven samurai
tokyo story
oldboy
ghost in the shell
spirited away

uk
anything kubrick
trainspotting
brazil
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>>9714660
>the good the bad and the ugly
>american
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>>9714660
>oldboy
>japanese
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>>9714153
>Sartre tried to hide serious problems under simulated irony to obtain social success which he seemed to disdain as if it was a serious problem resulting in his eyes not being able to focus on one thing at the same time
lmao, most underrated post in this whole fucking thread
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Anyone watch trailer park boys?
Holy shit that show is hilarious.
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>>9709285
Whoa, we've got an avant teen on the loose!
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>>9714601
Fear and Loathing is my favorite movie and I've only recently seen it. I'm by no means any type of movie enthusiast and I've only seen a handful that would probably be worth mentioning in this thread but I love that movie so much. I really need to get around to finding the book to read.
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>>9709982
>Near 100 movies to watch
>Literally over 1,000 anime to watch
>have 200 games I never even installed
>forget books, I only have all of human history to catch up on
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>>9709240
movies about fashion tho
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>>9710002
I'm going to fucking do this fuck
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>>9714660
Kieslowski's films are fucking GOAT
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>>9715991
>watching childrens cartoons
>playing video games

you are the reason why this board is fucking shit
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>>9716037
This was pretty interesting
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3268030/
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>>9714601
don't name it "finer arts" if you plan on posting trash like fear and loathing in it
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>>9712950
>Lol @ no one but OP mentioning ______

I imagine everyone that says this is a pleb that hasn't watched much movies and thinks his one movie is receiving not enough attention compared to the thousands of good movies that could be mentioned in the thread

I imagine I am always right
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>>9715303
yup
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Sharknado
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Also:

>A Girl Walks Home Alone at Night
>Pale Flower
>The Killer
>Fallen Angels (1995)
>Eyes Wide Shut
>Vertigo
>The 39 Steps
>The Master
>Naked Lunch
>Pickpocket
>Dillinger is Dead
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Naked (1993)
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METASTAZE FOR SOME SLAV INSPO
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USSeJSynH2Q

too bad almost all the cursing gets lost in translation
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ex drummer
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>>9709240
Cool Hand Luke
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>>9718551
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star wars?
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Das Boot
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>>9709252
mr.skeleton approves

*tips tophat*
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submarine is /fa/
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Why hasn't blade runner been mentioned?
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>>9709240
>no drive
>no American psycho

Try again
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>>9709240
>Hackers

Next level shit, man.
Dope ass movie too
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>>9716805
>Complaining about children's cartoons on a children's cartoon image board
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How the fuck is Red Desert not in there?
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