Best watches for 500€-700€?
I like the Submariner aestetic, is Seiko a good call?
Also: I guess there is no better place to ask this, since pretty many skeletons browse /fa/ (maybe it's different with watch threads..). Anyways. Isnt it kind of weird, wearing as 'bulky' watches as Submariners on narrow wrists?
>I like the Submariner aestetic
>aesthetic in any way, shape, or form
it actually sucks
Strapped mako ray for ya all
I want to buy my dad something in the $800-$1000 range for his 55th birthday. He told me like five years ago he's always wanted an Omega so I'm thinking about buying him something used, what's the best shit I can get at that price range and what's there to think about when buying used?
from their website
>40mm diameter 9mm height
haven't checked how accurate the movement is but so far it seems ok for what it is - a poor man's nomos.
and ignore the moutbreathers, buy what you want to buy.
My father's Seiko passed on to me 2 years ago when I started university. Kinda old and lost its spark, any recommendations on how to clean a titanium watch?
It's actually a really nice watch but the design is gay and you should feel bad
You could get a vintage seamaster for $400-800 depending on condition, but that's kinda the cheap way out
Generally when people like omega as a brand they jerk off to the Seamaster and Speed master, you would have to save up a little and do some shopping around
My straps finally got here. I'm kind of disappointed with cheapestnatostraps honestly, the shipping took like 3 weeks and the straps feel much rougher and cheaper and itchier than the ones I bought from crown and buckle. They also only had polished hardware which doesn't match the blasted finish on the OM at all. Oh well, they look pretty nice, although the colors are also a bit more faded than on the crown and buckles. Where should I try next? I liked the selection of this site and they were a little bit cheaper I guess, but they're a bit too low quality for me and it's not like expensive cloth straps are even that expensive.
And yes I put a nato strap on a gold dress watch, debate me. It was mostly just for fun but I think it actually looks better than I thought it would
Maybe get a Constellation like mine >>9685890
The 60s ones are the coolest in my opinion, 70s one are okay sometimes but by the 80s Omega was struggling as a company and the Connies from that era are kind of shit. I think you could find a stainless steel one in decent shape for around $1000, but just make sure it's actually good shape because I just had to pay $400 to overhaul mine. If you manage to find one (or any other watch model) from his birth year that would probably be pretty awesome, but it might not be worth it to narrow it down that much.
I didn't buy mine so I can't really help you there, just check out ebay and chrono24 and there's lots up for sale. The one in the picture is a ref. 168.004 if you want to use that as a starting point, but there's loads of different ones. Look up the references with pie-pan dials or diamond shaped hour markers too because I think both of those features are really cool looking.
What's the consensus of Victorinox watches? I'm guessing entry/shittier
1976 Rolex Airking-Date, deleted my last post due to the crap quality picture Here's a better one.
Can I suggest you try it on a strap like this?
No I'm just kidding, Omega actually made some very good quartz watches. Watch nerds will turn their noses up at them (which means you can probably get them for a lot cheaper than they should be), but the watches are every bit as high quality as the mechanicals because that was still back when quartz watches were hot shit.
Constellations were the top of the line model so they came with automatic movements and they were all chronometer certified. Seamasters were a step down so they're not certified and they have hand-wind movements. But I think in many cases the seamaster movements were very similar minus the automatic winding parts and without being as carefully adjusted.
That's cool, I respect that
Not even wearing one occasionally? ;_;
It's a gorgeous watch mate, I hope you enjoy it
Nah, I'm more of a bracelet kinda' guy anyways. Looks like a high quality strap though, nice watch if the picture related is yours by the way.
>It's a gorgeous watch mate, I hope you enjoy it
Thank you very much Anon, I do.
anyone know w2c pic related?
No, it'll be a delicate little flower and if you even look at it the wrong way the crystal will get huge deep scratches in it and the watch will fall apart. I bought a Skagen back when I was a watch pleb, it looked pretty nice but it didn't last long.
The company is part of the Fossil Group and is based out of Dallas, Texas.
thanks for the info man was pretty close to buying it too
Cheapest possible rolex that isn't a replica and that isn't in shit condition?
Nah, they are very good, especially for the price. Better watches can be found for much less
Well the air king is their cheapest model retail, but retail price isn't the only factor in price when buying used, you should seriousoy have a look at Tudor, it will cost you a few thousand less.
This guy here has an air king
This will sound like the dumbest fucking thing you've heard today, but why do you guys wear watches? I'm not disagreeing with you, I'm not saying it's bad.
But generally speaking other than functional values, what are watches supposed to add to how you look?
I just appreciate that they are a functional, and in a lot of cases, handmade mechanical object. I find stuff like that interesting, hence why my homeboard is /o/, as opposed to /fa/. I drop in here for the watch threads every now and again.
Watches are a hobby of mine, I read about them and genuinely enjoy them. I use them to tell them time when I wear them instead of pulling out a mobile phone, although I dont own any high end pieces I enjoy the history behind the company and how they came to making a watch that ended up on my wrist
if you like big watches you should go after dive watches
as for the gold, most the time cheap gold watches come off as tacky and i try to stay away unless its a dress watch
I have an oyster bracelet for my skx007 and an engineer bracelet for the OM in the photo. I don't really know what else I would get since bracelets are specific to the watch and have to fit onto it. Or are you talking about stuff like shark mesh and other metal strap type things that aren't watch-specific? I don't really like those very much.
But actually now that you mention it, supposedly Omega I have originally came on a gold mesh Milanese type band, but someone took it off the watch and melted it down. They actually look pretty nice in pic related and it's too bad that I don't have it any more, but there's no way I'm going to try to track one down and pay for a solid gold bracelet anytime soon and that's too much gold for my tastes anyway.
Another thing I don't understand comes to functionality. Specifically watches that don't really have any indicators. I understand that anyone who's seen a watch/clock before should recognize a general area of time without markers, but you see some watches that's often completely black with just the dials and I look at that and think "How are you supposed to know the exact time?"
Everybody who is into watches hates them. They're for retards with bad taste.
Just copped this one. It's not very classy/expensive but I'm in love with the thing. Going to change the strap of course. Probably to brown leather. Am I a fuccboi?
Anybody have an opinion on corniche watches?
>not leaving your dive watch on the shore of the irish sea to weather the leather
Watches and sunglasses are pretty much the only socially accepted forms of male jewelry/accessories.
If you think for a second that necklaces or wristbands or rings are acceptable I had some bad news for you.
then you should look into other materials. instead of nato straps, try a nice silicone strap instead. you'd just have to know if it would suit that omega well. it would probably rather suit the obris you have in that pic.
with the omega watch I'd only have leather so I'd get a nice brown one. it's okay if you don't like metal mesh bracelets.
They're OK. Most use Swiss movements, which is good, but they're pretty expensive when you consider what else you can get with the money. Unless you're stuck on one of their designs, I would suggest you look elsewhere for a watch.
I've seen that there are replicas of Casio's watches (There are quite decent replicas of Edifice model). Are there replicas of Seiko or any other cheap brand?
You guys think this is too big for my wrist?
>don't care about opinions on the watch
It's just for the gym as a timer
really, WAY too big?
that picture kind of makes it looki bigger than irl..
and i don't mind how it looks.. plus big numbers easy to read so w/e i don't really care about the looks and don't want to carry a stopwatch..
Invicta Model 1204 Specialty?? It's about $80 on eBay and amazon. Is it a good watch to acquire females?
I'm looking for a cheap watch that makes me look like I have money so I don't have to make up for anything in personality.
Sorry, but why the fuck did you ask for people's opinions if you don't want to hear them?
Oh right, you just want confirmation that your oversized watch isn't oversized; dont worry anon, your watch totally isn't oversized.
Might as well post this one more time for the weekend crowd. Selling this guy. Keeps time fine but has a few running issues, I can explain if anyone asks. Asking $150, but I'll be entertaining offers if no one wants it by the end of the weekend.
This might not be the correct place to ask, and I've never been on /fa/ before, but can I get some help finding a watch similar to this one? I thought it was attractive.
From the users perspective, the only thing you'll notice is that the power reserve is shit, only like 15 hours. The movement was in extremely bad condition when I got it, and there's only so much I can do without sinking a ton of money in to it. That being said, the automatic mechanism works great and will keep the watch plenty wound throughout the day if you just wind it in the morning. The only other problems are just little things that don't actually affect the running of the watch, like how I had to swap out the 4th wheel so now its color doesn't match the other wheels.
Honestly? Yeah, a huge blingy INVICTA is just what you're looking for. Naturally the 4chan watch patricians are gonna sperg out, but who cares? You're not getting it to impress them.
I don't usually come here. What does /fa/ think of my collection?
I don't really count because I primarily post in /g/ too, but I'll give my opinion anyway.
You have a solid collection. Very well-rounded. The only thing I can say negative about it is that maratac is pretty overpriced, but I imagine you bought it for its unique sinn-esque looks and not its (rather lackluster) movement.
$229 is very reasonable. not far off from what you'd pay for something like an SKX007, which has a similar-tier movement.
Shit, I'd buy that for $229. I keep hearing about things on massdrop, I'm gonna have to start lurking it.
1. Kinda ugly but looks like it's heavy duty and works well
2.pretty cool, was considering one but I feel like it's too gaudy for dress and not really suitable for casual wear
3. 8/10, reduced speedy is better than no speedy, 9/10 if replica because good taste for a poorfag
4. Mandatory Japanese dive watch, but ORANGE is ugly as fuck, should have bought an orient ray instead
5. Way too big, gold isn't appropriate, I personally think pilot style watches are ugly, I assume it has a good movement
6.I don't understand the obsession with old, ugly, cheap, inaccurate slavshit timepieces when even Seiko5's are a better alternative, but hey, maybe it's your thing.
I think you should get a nice, unobtrusive white dress watch to round out the collection.
you have to buy a smartwatch, any currently being sold or any currently announced
which one do you get?
I actually have one of these coming. Again from Massdrop.
Pretty sure that's a full-sized speedy pro and it doesn't look fake to me. The pilot watch is brass I think, doesn't look like gold.
But anyways: >>9691277
1: Not a fan at all, I forget what this watch is called and I just don't get what people see in it
2: Not bad, but what is it? It doesn't quite look like a SARB021 or 033. I prefer the white-dialed versions myself, though.
3: Aww shit nigga 10/10 I fucking love speedys.
4: Orange NATO is just too much on an orange monster. I personally don't like monsters that much but I respect it I guess. Is that the new one or the old one, by the way?
5: I personally don't like fliegers but I think the Steinhart is a pretty solid version of that style. Brass is pretty cool though, if that actually is brass.
6: I don't fucking understand why those big square cases exist, they're awful. Not bad other than that though, at least it's not one of those stupid kid's watches with tanks or parachutes or whatever on them.
I'll give you like a 7.5/10. Most of them aren't things I would wear, but they're not bad.
Oh man, I didn't look very hard
9.8/10, would be full 10 with a thick, badass worn out leather band and some boho beaded bracelets
That's a comfy photo and I want to love the watch but it just looks a tiny bit too cheap. The case needs some better finishing, the hands should be colored better and be a deeper blue, and the applied numerals need to be a bit sharper on the edges and less plasticy looking. Beautiful design though and I'm sure it looks great when you're not scrutinizing it up close.
I love wrist shots where you can see a bit of a shirt sleeve or a comfy looking sweater.
Want a cheap strap for my cheap watch that'll come soon-pic related-no bully pls
I own the same watch in green and all I can think now is that I should have picked the metal bracelet version. it wasn't available on amazon.
but go to amazon for straps and compare prices there.
Anyone have any experience with Helgray? Seems like they kickstarted a bunch of models and they look kinda nice.
Was looking at the Skyfighter specifically as it looks pretty simple. The Field Officer is nice too, and is 100 dollars cheaper, so if it turns out they're shit then it won't be a hit on my wallet.
Anyone have one of these? Or know someone that does?
it's okay but nothing more than that.
also why an olympic games themed watch? doesn't that bother you?
other flaws: plastic glass and no lume, needs to be a swatch bracelet or strap if you wanna change it because the lugs are different.
I never understood how they can release the whole irony collection and yet still use plastic crystals for those. at least their metal bracelets are supposed to be good. besides, I'd only buy an irony swatch if it's a bit more crazy because most of what they have sucks in terms of decent and inoffensive designs.
you can still wear 42mm with that wrist size but it's the limit. wouldn't go bigger than that.
some 44mm watches still might look okay but come across as oversized already. there isn't really a rule of thumb because it depends on the horns of the watches, as well as case thickness and so forth.
I'd play it safe and get a 38-40mm watch. if the crown makes it 42mm you're at the limit.
it was actually a gift from an uncle. he collects watches so I just took it. I'm not a big fan of it neither, but it was better than the shitty digital Casio I was previously wearing
I'm having some difficulty finding a watch smaller than 42mm that I would really like
I was looking at the seagull 1963, which is 42mm in diameter. I do realise that I could get the 38mm one, but I quite like the panda aesthetic of the white dial and black chronometres specifically, and I don't think you can get that on a 38mm watch.
It would also be my first watch that's not a cheap casio, so I really do not want any trouble regarding the size of the watch.
But that one's basically got a quartz movement, right?
I don't wish to come off nitpicly, but I would really quite prefer a fully mechanical watch ...
In the market for an entry luxury simple dress watch with date function and display back.
JLC master control vs Zenith captain, which one?
I prefer JLC as a brand, but the Zenith looks a bit sleeker.
I agree with archie on the JLC surprisingly enough.
I find it to be one of the slickest and likely most wearable non-complication watches around but it's a lot of money for what it is. Unless you /want/ to spend that much, by all means. But you'd probably be better off if you got something cheaper and waited to scratch this particular itch for a few years until they start showing up as condition 1 or 2 with the price that comes with it.
The Zenith looks like a better version of that quartz Seiko the guy who made his own strap for it over in /watch/ on /g/ has.
What is a nice first watch I could wear casually? Something versatile. I don't have a very specific style but I like to wear more button ups, chealsea boots, quilted jackets etc.
tldr; what is the stan smiths of watches?
>have a nice vintage King Seiko Hi-Beat in mind
>the crystal and case is scratched up
If I mailed it to a nice watchmaker bro, would they be able to replace or repair the crystal, maybe polish the case, and regulate it?
I would pay obviously.
>What do u think about the watch?
I like it a lot. it's just that you can't expect much from an automatic watch at this pricepoint. you have no option to handwind it but technically it doesn't matter. the lume is excellent and it has a nice comfortable weight to it.
>I want the green strap, it goes well with black
true but the canvas strap will get annoying after a while because the weaving will dissolve around the holes on the backside of the strap.
that's why I'd rather have the original metal bracelet but a regular 18mm natostrap does the job too.
Don't polish cases, it ruins a watch. Especially if its one of those delicious 70s style Seikos with the flat surfaces and sharp edges, those are impossible to polish without rounding off all the corners and ruining the aesthetic.
I don't know how easy it is to find original Seiko crystals to fit that, but it might be possible, or at least something close enough to fit could probably be found. If it's a plastic crystal then just polishing it would probably be trivial, but I think King Seikos usually had mineral glass and I don't know how easy that is for a watchmaker to polish, it's pretty hard to do at home at least.
That'd be pretty damn easy, especially if the crystal is just acrylic and not mineral or sapphire or something. Like everyone else said, I wouldn't polish the case. The chance of messing up the original factory style finish is just too high for something like that.
I've been really digging vostoks lately. Picked one up (as well as a new bezel) that i'm waiting for to arrive.
What do you guys think about Komono? I like a lot of their watches.
Cheaply made (I mean holy shit that's supposed to be a promotional photo and the seconds hand isn't even close to being aligned with the markers)
Boring uninspired designs
They may be /fa/ enough for the rest of the board, but the watch connoisseurs and autists who hang out in these threads hate them.
Was getting a baby blue nato a good idea or a great idea?
Dark blue strap on a dark blue dial and bezel? That's not very creative and also a little too matchy. I like how it looks, I tend to like my natos in louder colors because I just use them for really casual fucking around when I don't feel like wearing the metal bracelet.
Actually the part that bothers me more is that the hardware on the strap is polished. The site I bought from didn't have any blasted or even brushed finished stuff to match the watch case, I think next time I should try to match the finish better.
Picked this up the other day on sale for not too much. Gonna be a nice looking every day for me I think. I've had luck with invicta in the past but I know their customer service is almost non existent. Either way I like all the invicta watches I've owned.
Excuse the finger prints on the gold, was messing with it earlier trying to get it sized properly.
To give you some perspective here's a 42mm (the Tissot) and a 40mm (the Orient) on my 6.5" bitch wrists. I'd like them to be a bit smaller, but I don't think it looks retarded or anything.
>inb4 getting flamed by all of /fa/
Nothing at all, I've looked at most of the makers for the style I was looking for around the price range, the Victorinox is all that comes up, but still pretty insecure about the brand since they make luggage and shit
Here's the rest of my collection.
Not sure which model the bulova is but its stamped with an m1 on the back meaning it was made in 1961. It was passed down to me from my father.
Yeah, I like it a lot, needs a new battery though.
so cool. Lorus released several different versions of these.
one of them has a full lume dial.
>Take fuckhuge 48+mm submariner knock-off with tons of metal
>attach nato strap to it
>think it's a cute way to "dress down" a watch
when will this bullshit stop. it's like #sprezzatura for watches. nato straps look fine on thinner watches but this shit is ridiculous
get one and please do.
here's a diver version.
digital. there is also a lady skeleton watch but I'm too lazy to post more.
Need to buy a watch for my 17 year old male cousin.
What the fuck do teen guys wear? Do they even wear watches?
Found a bunch of good shit on reddit today:
My dad got me one of these in high school and it was perfect as a first watch
But that was in the nokia phone days so there wasn't this bieber generation thing of using your phone as a primary clock/window through which you experience life.
and get a weekender unless you know that your cousin is one of the few teenagers self-aware enough to give a shit about his appearance who would actually wear a watch someone bought for him.
Anyone know any watches that are similar to junghans max bill? I dont have 2k to drop on a watch, looking for 1-400, simple. round. white. brown leather. no roman numerals.
>male fashion advice
Stop fucking posting here.
>thinking /fa/ is any better
>muh sekret club
Calm down fuccboi, no one cares
How thick do 11-12mm watch feel in person and how well do they line up with your shirts/sweaters cuff?
Looking for a dress automatic but at my $500 it seems hard to find anything thinner than 10mm.
Can /fa/ help me here? I've heard they're great watches from some people and then i've been told to avoid at all costs by others. What's the real deal on these things? I'm looking at buying the same one in your pic but I would like to know what all of your opinions are on them.
Invicta 8926 OB - being very sure it's the OB model - is quite good. Submariner homage with seiko quality and just quite a bit of obnoxious branding as compared to absolutely everywhere.
Literally every other model they have is utter dogshit and you should stay far away from it.
They're great watches for the money, Just make sure you never pay MSRP for one. Pic is the tag that was on the watch when I bought it. It's a nice watch but it's not worth $275. I paid $80 on sale and with the quality of the watch I could see paying $150 for it but not a cent more. Invicta allows the average person to get their hands on a quality watch with great design and above average build quality.
>he fell for the invicta MSRP ruse
That watch is an $80 watch and it's always been $80. Invicta ridiculously inflates their MSRP and then sells for way below it to make people who can't do any research think that they're getting a great deal. It's just one of the many ways in which invicta is a trash company.
The 8926 OB and the 9310 are the two invicta watches worth buying. I have them both and they're essitally the same watch with one major difference. The 8926 OB is a japan movement automatic watch and the 9310 (the one you're looking at) is a Swiss Quartz movment. There are also obvious aesthetic differences between the two as well but you can't go wrong with either one, I would personally go with the 9310 if I were you because it can be had cheaper, looks better IMHO, and has an overall better quality feel to it if you can live with the Quartz movement. If you really have to have an automatic though you can spend the extra $30 or so for the 8926 OB.
I should have added I paid $80 on sale from $110 normally.
I know the invicta MSRP is a ruse and thats why I said to absolutely never purchase an invicta for MSRP.
I've had several invicta watches in the past and have never paid over $130 for one.
Do you have a sunlit window, a watch, and a tie to use as a backdrop? Do you know how to operate a camera? Then you too can be a photographer!
Srsly, it's not hard.
Literally just took and edited this in three seconds
If you're even halfway decent with a camera it's super easy.
Thanks mayne, I like invicta though. They're cheapish and in my experience reliable as fuck and tend to look rather nice assuming you go with the submariner copies. I had an actual submariner for a while but it cost way too much to keep working so I sold it. I've his early had more people come up and compliment the invictas I've had more than the rolex which I find to be rather strange. Plus unlike the Rolex I can wear them every day without having to worry about a thing.
Sure, if by nice and expensive you mean boring and overpriced Nomos Tangentes. There's plenty of interesting watches posted in these threads, and some surprisingly nice ones pop up pretty often. I think /g/ has slightly better watch threads, though.
Reddit has a larger user base then /fa/ of course there will be more people with higher end watches, the ratio is probably the same. Also heaps of people here have heaps of high end watches, every thread there is at least three speedmasters posted and a Rolex submariner, lawyer fag who comes here often has a watch collection that is worth more then most people's houses
I don't know a lot avout clocks but could someone recommend me an intrduction to clock making or general clock advice? I like the idea of having mechanical clocks but I still wish for some kind of simplicity like Movados but yet with some kind of leather/WWII feel.
I mean the actual mechanics of how clocks work since that seems pivotal in understanding the complexities and what I am spending my money on.
That is: want a cool wristwatch I can be amazed at due to its mechanics.
/fa/ is there even a point in getting a watch if you are a poorfag ? The vast majority of stuff posted here seems to be 500$+ from what I can tell. Which watches should a poorfag get (0-150$ range)
Face is a little small in my wrist but I like it
The other day I was thinking about a friend of mine who comes from a dysfunctional family where his parents use him as a proxy of aggression to each other, and how in irl he likes to compare and to pit random people against each other. I'm curious of what psychological condition scientists categorize him and people like you under.
Anyway, you fucked up, if you actually had a clue you'd have used WUS as a point of comparison, like SU or SF.
r/watches only have imgur albums after albums of speedmaster, rolexe and bauhaus.
yeah the mc ticks all my boxes but its price seems rather high for a non-complication, especially considering that amount of money is near getting me the moonphse.
And apparently jlc is releasing a new ultra thin date model.
I'll listen to you advice and sleep on it further, thanks.
You can even get a nice fossil watch for that much. Despite beeing unfavored by a lot of people, you can get a nice looking fossil watch under 200.
Pic related was 150 on sale, origanly 200 something.
Fuck off, Ancon.
Apparently skeleton is the most fashionable bodytype.
You shouldn't get these mixed up. That's an overpriced chinese piece of shit.
It also looks dildos, so you got 0% of that right.
The vast majority of stuff posted here is under that price. You're probably overestimating the value of the watches posted here.
Ok, so, I posted a question in this thread yesterday regarding the Helgray Skyfighter here
and while I like the look of the watch, I've seen people say that the movement is bad and that it's overpriced and very generic. So that got me thinking then, are there any similar watches in the same style that I should know about?
I like the simple shape of the case, and just the overall style of it, are there any similar ones that you could recommend for about 300 dollars?
Of course I'd prefer an automatic, but they're so expensive that I'll hold out on buying one of those until I can get a quality one.
Ok, so basically, not a bad watch, just too to expensive for what you're getting?
Have any other models in the same style I could look at? Or even point me in the direction of a manufacturer that makes these kind of field watches (I think that's what they're called).
Here's something fairly similiar without the gold:
The watch in my pic is a watch I found on ebay with the ref FEMAL001D6, but it only seems to lead to eastern European sites. I don't know if that specific one even exists in the west.
Thanks mate. I prefer yours over the one you linked. I like the straight lines and hard edges.
I'll look into the SKU and see if there might be a different coloured variant.
It depends on how much I crave it.
My dad is rich but I am living in Sweden/on my study allowance (everyone gets it, around 2800 per week) and 2000 kronors extra from my parents. I have basically no expenses except pepsi max/parties.
Either I could save up to a clock or ask my dad for money, in which case I could probably get around 10 000 kronors.
That's my price range, I guess. When I graduated I got a ring for like 17 000 kronors, so if I wish for it on a special occasion it wouldn't be unheard of. However, he tries to make me as independent as possible.
10000kr is an awkward price range. Anything you get there is going to only be negligibly different from a watch that costs 5000kr.
My advice is going to be that you start with something lower end save up some more money in the meantime. If you save up something closer to 35,000kr you can get something technologically impressive. At that point, you can buy an omega with all sorts of fancy shit like a coaxial escapement, silicon balance spring, and 15,000 gauss of magnetic resistance.
Since you appear to be pursuing a gearboner, I'm gonna recommend the seagull 1963. It's got the most complicated movement in its price range.
It's... Beautiful. Thanks for the advice. I've been lurking on this forum for over a year now and generally it seems that the attitude against beginners' questions are really mean spirited. However, moments like these make up for it. I guess
I'll just try to repair old watches or something, we got quite the collection. In the meantime I'll probably learn more and save up money.
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