pigfuck's patricians general: fashion and lifestyle discussion

remember we all had a problem with casemods?

now we have to deal with pigcuck

got a nice little pickup in the mail today

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>>9578715
>pigcuck starts a patrician general
>doesn't even post fits to prove he is a true "patrician"

>>9578736
prove it

i am cringing please tell me no one take you seriously

>>9578745
yeh i ill post it ITT when i get back

>>9578715
>tfw enough money and autism to be patrician, but choose to buy accessible stuff

at least all the red white and blue makes my closet look good

>my posts are designed to incite anger in the stupid and amusement in the intelligent, its a good litmus test tbh, the only people who don’t understand what i am doing are stupid and worthless, inciting them to hatred and anger is all part of the shtick.
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pigcuck ? this is legit

why is everyone mad

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I suppose I'll fill Pigfuck's absence with some Helmut photos

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>>9578787

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>>9578787
that one is Panos Yiapanis wearing Helmut in Poison magazine - V22 Photography

this is backstage at Helmut A/W03

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>>9578795

I'm looking into buying some of the Docker's Alpha Khakis that are on sale. I've already got a decent pair of regular colored khakis and ones that are charcoal gray. Any suggestions on what colors I should pick up?

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>>9578798

leather cuff
I think it's from 2004, but I'm not certain

>>9578801
Navy or olive.

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>>9578806

hand/wrist strap thing from around the same time

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>>9578814

doublelayer sweater from a/w98

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>>9578817

metal slider belt, probably from around 2k2

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>>9578824

awesome beaded chest-piece from around 2003

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How do you feel about this pf

http://pastebin.com/dPe6pYMY

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>>9578715
Usually what I'm dressed in

>>9578840
especially on a platform that YOU yourself use.

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>>9578715
Can u trade me that blue eyes white dragon for my dark magician?

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>>9578836

Helmut was on that extra zipper game years ago

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>>9578715
time for your daily shitposting piggy?

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more gold from the master of attenshunwhoring

Not even I can top this

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>>9578861

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but i can try

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>>9578869

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>>9578873

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>>9578879

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>>9578884

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>>9578888

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>>9578795
>that one is Panos Yiapanis wearing Helmut in Poison magazine
panos is the stylist, not the model. panos looks like pic rel. he styles rick owens shows.

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>>9578898
While I'm aware that he's primarily a stylist, I'm pretty sure he was in a wig modeling for this shoot.

>>9578904
maybe im autistic but i dont see it, who's the photographer?

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>>9578905

>>9578904
He also created some of the clothing worn in the shoot. Now that I look again, that could be his natural hair.

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>>9578908

>>9578906
Photography - Inez van Lamsweerde and Vinoodh Matadin
Styling - Panos Yiapanis
Make-up - Peter Philips
Hair - Jimmy Paul

"Fashion story featuring one-of-a-kind pieces created by stylist Panos Yiapanis (that’s him hiding behind the long black hair). Couture with a rock-and-roll attitude. Through the lens of Inez and Vinoodh, V and the season started to look very heavy metal."

>>9578912
huh, neat. haven't seen that shoot, is it recent? do you have a full set of scans?

>>9578911
>>9578908
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>>9578879
>>9578873
>>9578869
>>9578863

are you ok buddy?

>>9578911
Master,

I am Xah’gnui, who has long delved into the annals of subterranean lore, conducting forbidden researches into the unknown, with a view to resurrecting aeon-silent interplanetary necromancer-lizards. Why is it so hard for me to get a date?

Uncanny Voyager

Uncanny Voyager: –

Would to God I had never opened your loathsome missive or any of the others! I lie gibbering on the settee, striving to blot from my consciousness your perverse admission, the most terrible quality of which is that it is penned in what is unquestionably my own handwriting. If that were not enough, your letter’s acrid stench resembles that of the thing — if it is a thing — that now slavers spasmodically against my window shutter. Yesterday I half-glimpsed its necrophagous shadow, and its contours are as terrible as that low whistling sound it makes, the ichor it exudes, and its interminable gnawings upon the doorknob. In outline it resembles a giant floret of broccoli, with queer appendages that are neither mouths nor talons, and despite being ill-equipped for the task, it has been alien-rhythmically typing me some kind of message. Through some ultimate void it tries to take control of my mind! While even now I hear it fumbling slobberingly with the letter-box! My one consolation is that it has already devoured the Rural Free Delivery man, so that I need not anticipate the arrival of any more of this vile and accursed correspondence,

Yrs – HPL.

>>9578787
>>9578795

I misspoke based on an incorrect filename.
This shoot is from V Magazine. I think the article was called Poison.

>>9578921
Wgg’lyeh-zk ogthrod,

Ph’ngglui yarl’faql kggravh iathfash k wggah’nggol zkk glooth-gloth ylothropy fi ngraneh cthvhz m’raaow k l’fzgl glw’h zhro kamog rhlghx-phtagg’ngg?

Dzgbthra’aaxq

Dearest Dzgbthra’aaxq: –

I thought you’d never ask. Really, how many hints must a fellow drop? Meet me by the cenotaph at midnight, and bring a banjo.

Yrs affctntly., – HPL.

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>>9578928

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>>9578918
It's probably from the early/mid '00's.
From a V magazine article by Normal Mailer of all people. I don't have any scans, but there are lots of good ones on Tumblr. Search for Panos Yiapanos v22.

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>>9578933

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>>9578937

Prisencolinensinainciusol
In de col men seivuan
prisencolinensinainciusol all right

Uis de seim cius nau op de seim
Ol uait men in de colobos dai
Trrr - ciak is e maind beghin de col
Bebi stei ye push yo oh

Uis de seim cius nau op de seim
Ol uoit men in de colobos dai
Not s de seim laikiu de promisdin
Iu nau in trabol lovgiai ciu gen

In do camo not cius no bai for lov so
Op op giast cam lau ue cam lov ai
Oping tu stei laik cius go mo men
Iu bicos tue men cold dobrei goris
Oh sandei

Ai ai smai sesler
Eni els so co uil piso ai
In de col men seivuan
Prisencolinensinainciusol all right

Ai ai smai senflecs
Eni go for doing peso ai
Prisencolinensinainciusol all right

Uel ai sint no ai giv de sint
Laik de cius nobodi oh gud taim lev feis go
Uis de seim et seim cius go no ben
Let de cius end kai for not de gai giast stei

Ai ai smai senflecs
Eni go for doing peso ai
In de col mein seivuan
Prisencolinensinainciusol all right

Lu nei si not sicidor
Ah es la bebi la dai big iour

Ai aismai senflecs
Eni go for doing peso ai
In de col mein seivuan
Prisencolinensinainciusol all right

Lu nei si not sicodor
Ah es la bebi la dai big iour

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>>9578936
>early/mid '00's
not surprising, i'm not that impressed with his more recent stuff (pic rel). his earliest work with corinne day was his best.

>>9578724
i miss casemods

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>>9578942

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This is now a dubs thread

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>>9578948
He's so talented. I own this Arena Homme Plus issue with the Helmut Lang retrospective. I was too young to care about Helmut during most of his career. This shoot is what got me interested in Lang and put Panos on my radar. I have scans of this one if you want.

>>9578961
the melanie ward years? I have most of it, not a full set though. A physical copy would be amazing. what i'm really missing is some of his early untitled shoots and photo stories with corinne day. he is an amazing stylist.

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>>9578948
high fashion has transcended it's purpose and is not catering to fetishists?
Christ

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>>9578968
Yeah, that's the one. A good friend gave me a hard copy knowing that I was inspired by it.

This is a pretty good resource
http://fuckyeahpanosyiapanis.tumblr.com/

Such a shame that an immature fag is derailing an actual good thread (pig duck isn't even here you mentally ill buffoon)

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>>9578974

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>>9578973
i'm familiar with the blog but it's dead as fuck. the fashion spot has a good thread with mostly complete scans, quite a few dead links though. you should be able to find a few dozen complete sets though. the problem is that people there use awful image hosts, and if you want to access pictures uploaded to the website itself you have to go through their awful application process.
http://forums.thefashionspot.com/f71/panos-yiapanis-fashion-director-large-love-magazine-51506.html

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>>9578979
It's crazy to me that something only ten years old could ever be lost to us. I mean the internet seems like this vast, even infinite space where everything exists if you search hard enough, but things like editorials show that to be false.

Print media is becoming lost because of the digital revolution. I can't even find out when that Panos special for V mag came out. I doubt I could find the complete scans of Melanie Ward years including the text pages. It's sad to me that there is beauty that is not being saved.

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>>9578992
Yeesh. That sounded sappy and depressing. Please excuse me. I'm a little stoned. Have some more Helmut.

>>9578992
That's the thing, it happened so quickly things got left behind

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>>9578992
personally i'm trying my hardest to preserve the work i enjoy by archiving, organising and eventually rehosting what i can find from the photographers, stylists and designers i favour, but actually tracking down scans or physical copies is so laborious.

http://4archive.net/ is another great resource for scans and such.

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>>9579004
Good man! I sometimes wish I had studied to be an archivist instead of an archaeologist. What's the point of finding it if you can't preserve it.

Rare Helmut aviator shorts. Probably from 2003.

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mother's archive @O@

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>>9579004
It's also both frustrating and interesting how information becomes corrupted during the transition from one medium to another, be it from print to digital or from a blog to tumblr. I can't tell you how many shoot or product photos I have with no other info except maybe a designer.

>>9579018

damn why and how does he have 3 of these

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ugh

>>9579020
yahoo japan niggerfaggot

>>9579023

no shit fuckhead

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>>9579020
iuno
>>9579023
nah i 24/7 yahoo + rak, never saw these pop up or saw in it sold section.

hes selling this amazing piece though

>>9579018
Lol those three jackets he bought all at once. I won't deny I'm jealous. They're from the Astro biker collection, I believe. A/W99.

God also has an enviable Helmut collection, some of which he's selling for fair but completely out of my range prices.

>>9579031
God is mother

>>9579029
Wait, is God what he goes under on Grailed because God is selling that one.

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>>9579014
are you interested in any other stylists or photographers in particular? my tastes are pretty limited, and usually confined to a particular era of someone's work.

panos + corinne day is unbeatable
melanie ward + corinne day also
jane how's work with alasdair mclellan is excellent
love most of christopher niquet's stuff
as well as alastair mckimm's body of work

>>9579019
loss of context is probably the biggest problem i come across,

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>>9579034
ya

>>9579032
Ah. I was so confused.

>>9579020
p sure he has like 6 astro moto from FW99, all at steal prices too.

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you guys wanna see what about 25-35k worth of clothes looks like(no thats not what i paid, thats its value)

this the most valuable outerwear, lot of sweaters and hoodies absent.

>>9579039

I came

>>9579041

I came again

>>9579041
top left to bottom right
raf aw03 x 2
helmut aw03
helmut aw99
raf ss03
helmut bomber x2

>>9579041
Nice collection.
What did you just go pick up?

Also, can I pick your brain a bit? I have some questions about your fashion interest.

>>9579041
Middle bomber and the two parkas look nice. Rest are a bit ordinary/played out.

Are you selling these or just going to keep them for personal use?

Let's try to keep this thread about fashion guys, no personal attacks on pf; and pf try to lay off the tired /pol/ memes. I'm sure you have plenty of other topics you can converse about.

>>9579041
>>9579041
You've had a few other astro bikers too right pigfuck. Do you still have them or did you sell

Idk for some reason I don't like mother and I don't want him to own more/nicer things than you is that autistic he just rubs me the wrong way for no reason really tho

>>9579054
That consumed bomber, ordinary? Lol. I've never seen anyone own one, ever.

Shame it's a bit faded looking though

>>9579055
That's a weird opinion to have. Can't we just appreciate the collections? Mother seems kind of inoffensive, what turns you off about him?

>>9579055
mother doesn't really post that often anymore. each time he had, hes been pretty humbled.

Wish he posted more though

>>9579046
What do you do with the stuff you buy?
Do you resell all of it? If you keep it, do you wear it? Would you ever remove the tags on that Raf parka? I get the feeling that you treat this stuff like museum exhibits.

What's your interest in owning the pieces themselves? Do you see yourself as a collector? If so, why do you collect? Do you keep the pieces in your closet? Do you look at them often?

I have an interest in your interest if that makes sense.

>>9579041
I'm gonna pulverize you, bitch

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>>9579055
lol 3 of those things in that pic are worth more than everything he owns, the raf parka and bomber are some of the rarest pieces of designer menswear on the planet.

those astros arent rare at all, ive had about 5 or 6 of them and ive got another one the way. the only special ones in terms of rarity are the ballistic nylon or leather runway versions.

they're really nice i mean dont get me wrong but they're not super valuable.

ill dump some pics of things ive sold

Is OG Helmut suiting worth looking into? When it comes to suiting I don't like conventional silhouettes, I like Yohji, CdG, Thom Browne, Hedi Dior Homme / SLP suits. Is his suiting interesting or noteworthy at all?

>>9578936
>>9578912
It's not Panos. I've met him in person several times, he's pretty hippy and stumpy. NOT long-legged/lithe like whoever's in that picture. You can also just tell from the stock-as-hell posing that's very clearly a working female model. Come on gang. Let's at least apply a modicum of critical thinking.

>>9579057
I don't have any kind of attachment or affinity for the designers, their motivations, or an item's rarity. I'm just interested in the pieces themselves. Maybe I'm in a minority with that position; nothing against those who are dedicated to certain designers though.

>>9579058
I admitted myself it's strange. I think he rubs me the wrong way because I really dislike the instagram show off your pieces thing (and I don't like when anyone does it really) and I don't think he wears any of it well.

I also get this new money asian vibe off of him. Which may not even be true at all. And I also find his girlfriends face offensive and I think that geobasket webm is the lamest showoffy thing. I think that's what I don't like, it's just like he is a show off. I mean pigfuck is too ofc, but not anywhere else besides here and he's straight up about it.

And I wonder how he pays for it all. Maybe I'm somewhat jealous!

But yeah he has some nice fucking pieces. I just don't like him- and not for any good reason either, as you can tell. Just my thoughts on some guy I don't even know based off what I've seen of him through the internet.

>>9579069

You work in fashion? Seems like quite a few informed individuals ITT, quite unusual for /fa/

>>9579065
If the second hand market collapsed for these old Raf and Helmut pieces would you still continue collecting or just sell up and move on to another hobby?

>>9579072
Ah, I've only seen a few posts he's made here. No idea about his personality. He has a tumblr as well right? I think that's a pretty good idea; I might start up a tumblr of my own to host pics of some of the stuff I own. There seems to be little commentary on that platform though, just a lot of re-blogging.

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>>9579050
>Also, can I pick your brain a bit? I have some questions about your fashion interest.
yeah

>>9579063
>What do you do with the stuff you buy?
>Do you resell all of it? If you keep it, do you wear it? Would you ever remove the tags on that Raf parka? I get the feeling that you treat this stuff like museum exhibits.
>What's your interest in owning the pieces themselves? Do you see yourself as a collector? If so, why do you collect? Do you keep the pieces in your closet? Do you look at them often?
>I have an interest in your interest if that makes sense.
some of it i keep even though i dont wear because i cant part with it like the astro parka and the raf bomber.

no, removing tags would be retarded whether i intended to sell it or keep it because itd reduce its value. a lot of these pieces are like shares, they're an effective way of storing your money and making sure it increases in value, its just a bonus that they're really nice and you can wear them.

i look at the pieces i keep but dont wear every now and then, the ballistic nylon astro parka is probably the most impressive piece of clothing ive ever seen so its always nice to take it out on occasion.

you could consider me a collector because i fit the definition, id definitely have kept a lot more stuff though if i was just a collector, i make a decent amount of money reselling. i've had to compromise however, if it was just about the money i wouldve sold a lot of those things in the pic.

Fuck now I want one of those parkas, they just seem so fucking solid in build and design, if I had one I'd wear it every day in the winter for the rest of my life

Pf you got any up for sale?

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>>9578715
>>9578715
I purchased a bunch of stuff recently moving away from pure yohji

Purchased
Raf Simons SS2000 Camp Crystal Lake Shirt
Raf Simons AW04-05 Pocket Denim
Helmut Lang 1999 Bikers
Helmut Lang Bondage Windbreaker
Helmut Lang 1999 Raw Denim Jacket
Helmut Lang 1997? Hooded Military Jacket
Helmut Lang Adjustable Waist Chinos
Yohji Yamamoto Military Buttonup

Going to buy Helmut Lang Parka, Helmut Lang Bomber, Raf Bomber, and maybe another YYPH suit over the summer and next fall. Could pick up one of the above items right now but don't want to buy too early in case something more interesting than what's currently available comes along.

Fromjapan still hasn't received the 1997ish hooded military jacket so I'm sweatin'

what was that website in english to buy from jap auctions
I think it had light blue/white color scheme

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>>9579073
I work in what you would probably consider an "adjacent" industry. But it's definitely not hard to run into these people (or anybody for that matter) living in New York (as I do.) Panos I just happen to see at events all the time because he and his little gang really stand out, although he goes out less now. He has/had quite a...nose for parties.

If you're interested in stylists who love Helmut, you should watch out for Hanne Odiele--yes, the model!--who is planning on going into stylist work really soon. She LOVES Helmut and old Raf (has a great personal relationship with Raf too, obviously, as she walked for his last menswear show...)

>>9579089
Nice pickups.

>>9579069
Sorry. I don't know much about the guy. I was just going off of the text of the article, which stated that the model was Yipanis. I figured he was just modifying his look and tricking the eye.

>>9579072
Understandable. I know where you're coming from. But to clarify some, I make all my money myself. I'm not rich or anywhere close, but I have been lucky with some nice pickups and were able to make a decent amount through reselling. I also have a job. I don't really mean to seem cocky with my Instagram posts, my followers seems to enjoy them.

>>9579098
I called it about hanne omg yesss

>>9579089

Post pics of cops

I'm kind of like you, been diehard Yohji for a couple years but recently been finding interest in Helmut and Visvim / Americana in general, Soloist as well

Been considering selling some of my Yohji for other stuff but picked up a pair of Y's For Men pants from the post office today and I don't think I'll ever completely move away from Yohji idk

Being a Yohji dude is cool but I don't feel like dressing like an old man all the time nahmean

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>>9579074
aside from the astro parka, the ss03 bomber and the aw03 parka i pretty much wear everything else so i doubt id sell up and move on, thats what i wear, thats my wardrobe.

>>9579068
suiting is decent i guess but hard to find complete suit jacket and pants.

>>9579086
in terms of aesthetic design + quality and comfort synthesis the astro stuff is some of the best shit ive handled. the cut, the quality, the comfort, they just look and feel really nice.

i have a white astro jacket coming that i will be selling.

>>9579098

Did you by any chance post here a long long time ago about being involved in NYFW? Helmut show I believe? Someone posted a pic of their staff pass badge thing I remember

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>>9579098
And funny that I see Sarah Harris in the same Sartoralist revue as that Hanne picture, because a face familiar to all you (you'll have to GUESS who) just sold her several pieces worth of Helmut womenswear for pennies. So if you see her wearing one of the pigskin cut-out riders from 2004 anytime soon...

>>9579110
Definitely wasn't me. ;)

>>9579103
Of course your followers enjoy them, that's why they follow you and comment.

But that doesn't mean that there aren't plenty of others who find it tacky and keep their mouths shut.

By all means though do what you want and what makes you happy

How old are you?

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Also hi everyone. Nice stuff pf,
>>9579089
Nice. I got a pair of SS13 hakama/balloon pants recently

>>9579098

Huh, quite interesting about Hanne, I've noticed that she seems to be one of few models who actually takes an interest in wearing designer clothing for herself, makes sense that she's branching out into the industry. Although from what I've seen from her personal styling, I'm not sure if I can say that I like it... Idk though, I'm much more used to analyzing menswear, lots of womenswear on the streets is styled in complex ways with much more "codes" than menswear... Maybe I just lack the eye for it right now.

Any interesting industry happenings or info in general?

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>>9579085
I was wondering if you owned a pair of aviators. Are those yours?

Do you have a pair of the cutout legging version?

>>9579115
I agree! I'm like twenty

>>9579107
I love dressing in YYPH. Dressing in Helmut/Raf makes me feel really good in a different kind of way than Yohji. Makes me feel more young. I'm taking it easy right now before I make Helmut/Raf cops > 1000 USD.

>>9579116
Those are a cool but a bit much for me. My favourite Yohji pants are some baggy gab ones from 92 :)

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this is an interesting iteration of the astro biker has like exo skeleton detailing, asymmetrical stitching and d ring design which none of the others have. i sold it for only 650 because i needed money fast and it had a slight tear in the lining + missing the fur.

>>9579120
Also, do you know if the chainmail from 2003 was available for sale or just a runway piece?

>>9579125
Fuck this was great man. Have you ever wanted to just get a pair of Moto pants from the same season with the zipper detail and attach them together.

>>9579125
That's one of the more direct Rick inspirations I've seen.

>>9579116

Those look pretty similar to my SS13 rayon balloon pants, which I'm considering selling soon... How much did you get yours for? I want a general idea of how much people are buying / selling Hakama variations for these days...

>>9578715

Just wanted to chime in and say that is the first thread in three days where people are just talking about actual design and it's really nice.

>>9579111

Can u give more hints bc I'm not up on these people at all like I have no clue who u r talking about

>>9579134
Mine are garbadine wool! Got mine pretty cheap for about 35k yen

>>9579134
I think they're selling at ~500 USD don't quote me though.

>>9579120
everything that im uploading individual shots of is stuff ive owned but sold. i owned those aviators but i sold them.

there was a pair of the green chaps for sale on ebay that went for like 160 cuz they were listed in the 'vintage' section. probably shouldve bought em.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/HELMUT-LANG-FW03-AW03-ICONIC-FIGHTER-PILOT-CHAPS-/161598727642?_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20140813112422%26meid%3Dc8ba80d10e654061a194c61f60889d4e%26pid%3D100272%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D161598727642%26clkid%3D4140059790631744686&_qi=RTM1963929&_trksid=p2047675.l2557&nma=true&si=VP4iVeYwG4DFJxwDl9rV5OFThj0%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc

i sold both the eskimo hooded parka and jacket just recently as well.

>>9579125
That's nice, the d-ring detailing is cool. You didn't consider having the lining repaired by a professional? Or do collectors just want the items "as is"? I always get the stuff I'm going to re-sell repaired if possible.

>>9579122
Cool man you got a good eye for stuff keep doing your thing

>>9579143
I did see that listing but the seller noted that they were in trashed condition, hence the low price. I didn't even consider copping.

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>>9579064
What great fun this is.
dumbfuck sure loves attention, so why not give it to him?

>>9579041
how much did you cop that raf hoodie for?

>>9579123

Yeah exactly, just learned from life experience that wearing Yohji to a concert or party isn't fun, I feel much more energetic in a pair of levis and a thrifted jacket, would imagine I'd enjoy Helmut / Raf stuff in the same way, I've always thought it looked great but lacked the motivation to scour the web for stuff because there always seems to be high demand for pieces, and I'm pretty autistic about coherence in my wardrobe so I rarely buy new (looking) stuff, most of the shit I buy is very similar to pieces I already have, I just buy them as a possible "upgrade" and sell the one that I don't like as much

Nice to have a thread like this where people are actually talking about clothes and designers

Don't remember the last time there was a thread like this

>>9579150
updated version

jeez this is kinda hard to read.

oh well :-)

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>>9579156

>>9579153
tbh i wouldn't wear anything too expensive to concerts unless you want it destroyed. too risky.

>>9579150
>>9579156
Can you go fuck yourself? Your autism is ruining a perfectly good thread.

You're worse than pig fuck in so many ways.

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>>9579156
fucking
>doesn't realize that there are multiple people who conspire to remove him from board

>>9579158
Idk I feel like the purpose of this stuff is to be worn, not treated like a fine art painting. I know some pieces are rare or valuable but fuck man, they're just clothes. You gotta accept that if you wear them, they'll probably get...worn.

>>9579158

Based Japan keeps the cost of my cops way low so don't really have anything that I'd be super upset about having damaged, in fact I actually like having my stuff damaged, gives it character and makes things more fun

>coffee stains on Paul Harnden shirt
>rips on yohji jacket sleeve from trying to twist the cap off a beer
>split stain on yohji coat from bad aim while smoking

:)

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>>9579131
i have a pair of the motos, maybe ill try it with the jacket that ill be getting soon.

>>9579127
nah pretty sure the artisanal stuff from aw03 and ss04 was never really sold, it was made inhouse separate to the retail stuff as well.

this is one of the eskimo jackets from aw98, ill follow up with a runway pic.

the stuff from aw98 is built to be worn in every sense, the cotton exterior is really thick moleskin and the inner has 2 different layers of both synthetic and natural textiles.

>>9579161
make me :-)

and does anyone know where that pic of pugface's backside in his white sweater where he seems to have a hunchback is?

>>9578957
fuckkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk

:

How can you guys handle selling your clothes? I've never felt inclined to do it because I love all my stuff too much.

>>9579166

looks gr8
btw what's the op pic from? i need an explanation

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>>9579166
'sup dork?

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>>9579144
it was already repaired, the lining had come off a little and had been stitched back on. the guy i sold it to resold it believe.

>>9579166
this is the white version on the runway

>>9579165
This is pretty bad man. I mean it's okay when I get a little rip in a yohji jacket from a chair or something or a stain from coffee but I think it's stupid to do stuff to intentionally fuck your clothes up like trying to open a beer bottle with your sleeve or something.

>>9579163
true, but once you get your hands on an archival piece you'll realize that its not that easy to just buy another one if you end up trash it. Though, there are pieces i wear sparingly and some i can just wear like almost daily.

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>>9579143
LMAO

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YPzq7_wFv4

bueno

>>9579170
I can only do it with clothing I purchase purely for resale and have no personal interest in

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>>9579118
>few models take an interest in wearing designer clothing
This is just dead wrong and born out of a fashion spectator (well look what fucking website I'm on...) misunderstanding of working models as airhead blondes, which is very obviously not the case any more and I'd argue hasn't been since the Russian invasion (Sasha Pivarova.) Girls who get work now whether it be in editorial or runway are "girls who know" and you can see this in London, in New York, and in Paris all three. I'm not going to go out of my way to explain this to you, but just think Jamie Bochert, Issa Lish (who came up through the New York independent/VFILES scene, she was "discovered" by Hari Nef for gods sakes) Iekeliene Stange, the list goes on.

But also, once again, this is so obvious, but stylist/model has always been an EASY combo. Making any sort of money off styling work at all is about having pre-existing connections and how better to break into that scene than being cast by someone else to work with the designers directly.

Last Vetements show was presented on entirely their stylists and friends of the house. For example here's Lotta Volkova.

>>9579136
If the clues "works in industry in New York" "owens a lot of vtg Helmut womenswear" and "involved with /fa/ in some way" doesn't make it obvious you're just not going to get it period. I'm sure she'd hate me for talking about it on here anyway.

>>9579179
Well yeah, that makes sense. Even then though once I actually start touching and seeing beautiful things in real life I get pretty attached, probably why I haven't made it on the lucrative resale market yet.

>>9579176
I definitely see that. Don't get me wrong. Some of my Helmut and Sruli pieces are really special to me, but a lot of that comes from the joy of wearing them. It feels good to walk around in high quality or iconic clothing.

>>9579166
pls post pic when you do, aw99 jumpsuit

>>9579176
The way I live I just treat them without too much care and if they get dirty/beaten at all I just treat it like a result of having a good time and move on. I know too many people who never even wear their clothes because of a fear of any harm coming to them.

>>9579184
i went on a date with a girl who did work as a runway model for prada and she barely showered and wore nirvana and metallic shirts and told me i was dumb for liking fashion because the designers "pull it all out of their ass"

>>9579179
These days I've just started buying only designer stuff and putting it for sale at a price far more than I've paid. If it doesn't sell I'm not fussed but if it does then the profit means I can purchase multiple new items. It's helped actually turn the hobby into a source of positive cash flow instead of a money pit.

>>9579174

i don't go out of my way to fuck up my clothes, shit just happens (while under the influence of substances most of the time) and i just laugh it off

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>>9579162
slightly better

>>9579184
I just don't know any women from this board who live in New York and work in the industry and own vintage helmut womenswear.

Unless you meant /fa/ as in fashion in general and not 4chan related.

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>>9579171
the OP pic is an advertisement for lang aw03

the really interesting thing is the contrast between prada lang and the 90's era stuff before he sold it to prada.

at prada lang did some reissues of his famous designs, this piece i just got today is a reissue of the old aw98 eskimo jackets. a version of this sold on grailed for 4500
http://www.grailed.com/listings/46297-helmut-lang-bondage-fw-2003-goat-fur-parka

the older stuff from the jeans line is built to withstand the elements, the jeans line was all about functional and protective sportswear so this stuff
>>9579173
is really well built, the lining is mostly synthetic, the cotton is waxed and waterproof and theres about 3 different layers within the jacket itself.

the prada stuff isnt as well made but by this time lang had a really great handle on the aesthetic, the fishtail + his famous hand straps of the newer version im wearing create a much sharper chic look. the hood isnt as imposing either, the materials are more luxury than functional - this new version is goatfur, wool and viscosse/cupro blend inner as opposed to the predominantly synthetic blend of the aw98 stuff.

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>>9579196
That's what I just said, "girls who know" ;)

>>9579184

Actually you're right, I don't reaaally keep up with models or street style (stars), and when I do see them and they aren't dressed in something that is immediately recognizable to me (like that cdg coat hanne is wearing) i guess i just assume that they're wearing non designer clothing

thanks for the insight

>>9579209
pigfuck why would you buy heavy parkas if you live in australia

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>>9579204
don't deny your heritage, dear.

>>9579206

you would know if you were around 2013-early 2014 /fa/, and if you don't know then it really doesn't matter anyways

>>9579209
Are you only into old stuff pf? Seems like everything you own predates the last decade.

>>9579204
Idk what you're trying to prove lol he looks good in most of those and the excerpts you've chosen to screen cap don't really say anything

You're so fucking lame. Get a life.

>>9579216
Ohhh timber. Duh. Forgot about her.

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>>9579214
because he's a dumbass, why else?

Do you think you're talking to someone who makes informed decisions?

>mfw he's a scalper

No fucking wonder

A cotton hoodie for $1200?

>>9579228
That's actually not an unreasonable price for that hoodie and if you don't know why you're beyond helping

I don't think pigfuck himself dictates the market. If people are willing to pay, so be it. Capitalism baby. You sound poor and jealous. Maybe fat too

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>>9579209
heres a good look at the lining of the aw98 stuff, if you were waiting for the apocalypse you want one of these badboys.

>>9579214
i live all over

>>9579222
yep pretty much og helmut and raf from 95-06 is only shit i like.

>>9579228

You are not welcomed ITT please go away

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>>9579222
>looks good

Nice samefagging you douche

why do your pupils seem to go in different directions?

>>9578795
i've never seen this pic before
so cuteeeeeeeeeeee

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>>9579234
>Maybe fat too
oh you dont know who this is? its the PCOS girl with the big old clit, this is her.

i wont post about her again though, she wants the attention bad.

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>>9579236
pigfuck add me on skype so I can add you to onani

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I got this Virginia creeper jacket recently. Top right.

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>>9579238
Says who?

Pigface's dick suckers?

>>9579247
>mangafox

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>>9579241
maybe one more so we can understand where the anger comes from.

shes a big girl.

>>9579209
>>9579236
damn... that hood... those finger straps... that lining... those shoulder straps

it's crazy how it's been a decade since he retired and so few in the collective world of fashion have been able to produce parkas bombers etc that can be considered to be on par with some of these pieces

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>>9579241
rude.

pic related, it's you

you pathetic fuck

Spergiest way to approach someone ever

>>9579249

just ignore it dude can't risk having this thread deleted cuz of >muh feelings r hurt

>>9579236
Man, I really want one now =]
I hadn't seen all of those details before.

Completely impractical for where I live, but still a worthy grail in ballistic.

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>>9579249
payback's abitch ain't it? :-)

And i'm not so much angry as amused.

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>>9579256
starfrog is cool he wont delete it but other janitors/mods are pretty fucking gay and will delete regardless of the content.

if this thread is deleted and you guys want to look back on it use the archive(a lot of people dont know about this for some reason)

https://warosu.org/fa/thread/S9578715

more pics of latest parka, thinking hard in this pic.

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someone please photoshop pig's name to this and send to that poor lass who took naked pics with him

>>9579236
You ever owned any of the bondage strap pants from Helmut? They're pretty much the only things from his archive I'm craving but I'm interested in whether or not the cut/craft can stand up alongside the gimmick

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>>9579259
yeh the jacket in the pic you just quoted is the runway piece from aw98

this is it on the runway

pigfuck needs to let go of his redpill infographic autism and revel in zog approved hedonism

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>>9579266

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>>9579270
idk which ones you mean, theres a lot of different iterations. do you mean the mummy jeans or the aviator pants? pictured are the mummy jeans

>>9579270
they're pretty interesting, nothing too crazy though. slim cut with straps stitched on. Check out the ss04 mummy ones if you want crazy

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these are the aviators

>>9579276
I think he means the pants with just two or three straps around one or both legs. Too lazy to find a photo.

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>>9579276
Oh right, I meant these kind. I know they're nothing too special I just like small detailing like this, other helmut stuff goes too far out of my overall style.

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>>9579281
and these are just chaps that you wear over pants

btw a lot of fags/people will say hl was influenced by bdsm/gay bondage wear for this but helmut never, not once, referred to his shit as bondage. the straps are all about adjustment and orthopedics, the pants are basically 1:1 copies of aviator/pilot pants.

the press is 100% responsible for the notion that helmut stuff is 'bondage' inspired.

none of the straps on te bombers are gratuitous, they all can be adjusted for different effects/

>>9579284
oh, i have no experience with them. iirc theres some post helmut pants made in japan shit with straps on it so be careful with that.

>>9579291
Well yeah, it's obvious he wasn't inspired by any sexual attributes when it comes to his collections since the aesthetics of the straps always seemed more military than sexy, I just call them that out of habit.

>>9579291
i'll stop referring to my windbreaker as a bondage strap windbreaker then

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>>9579284
Those are Ann Demeulemeester.

http://importworkwear.com/2012/10/48-rick-obscur-isaac-sellam-ann-helmut-lang/

They look like this worn (in white)

>>9579292
Be careful not to let them know how little HL knowledge you actually possess... ;) Oh I jest. But don't think I don't know where you got that "orthopedics" idea from (actually same person who wrote 60% of Michael Kard's material so you're in good company.)

>>9579291
IF anyone was autistic enough to wear impractical; bdsm shit like that in public they'd be a laughingstock

which is why they're perf for you

you cannot get any more repulsive

>>9579300
Oh shit, never knew Ann D did the same thing, although I guess that's not surprising with how little I know about her work.

>>9578756

This. I blew tens of thousands of dollars on designer clothing (Rick, YSL, Dior Homme, Sruli, Yohji, etc) and pretty much walk out of the house wearing YSL jeans and a $50 hoodie 9 times out of 10.

>>9579294
yeh its nitpicky just thought it was worth pointing out. i still use bondage in my sales ads cause equate bondage and lang with value and rarity, i just say put it in ''

>>9579300
Not so subtle dig there

Timber? That you?

>>9579315
it's not "doing" the same thing, that page is actually where that image came from those pants are ann d. helmut never did any like those.

>>9579337
I meant in terms of the straps integrated into clothing in that specific style, which Lang did do, I just grabbed that image from google as an example.

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this is one of the last things i really want, one of the aw03 bombers with the assymetrical neck and should detailing.

>>9579300
pretty obvious thats what it is, i was in a chemist yesterday looking at the orthopedics gear and theres a lot of hand and wrist attachments that resemble langs aw03 stuff so thats the word i chose. michael kard from endyma certainly doesnt get his info from a 19 year old girl who got all her info from his posts on sz though.

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>>9579340

>>9579340
OK! I won't argue on it with you. ;) Speaking of sz you might find the posts michael kard made on his original account interesting.

>>9579345
what username?

>>9579349
I'm sure if you look real hard you can figure it out.

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>>9579340
That harness reminds a me a little of what Dries got up to recently, I really dig that kind of layering on clothing

>>9579340
Oh man dude. Are you being fucking serious right now?

You sound completely delusional.

>the effusive purple prose copywriters use to generate hype for marked up designer garbage is ALL TRUE

LoL

>>9579355
poor reading comp

He's pretty far in that league of using the purple prose and pulling shit out of his asshole himself so I don't think he's unaware

>>9579355
assuming you're being genuine, what are you talking about? ignoring the flagrant gratuitousness of endyma's prose, theres a lot empirically correct information about collections, dates, details etc. that you dont get anywhere else.

>>9579280
Mummies are really nice and certainly unique, bondage pants are not that interesting, imo.

>>9579358
He seems to think that the persuasive language designers use has not been written to market shoddy, uninspired crap most of the time


Pigface only wants what seems edgy to him with no regard to actual quality or artistry that is beyond what is sanctioned by his narrow frame of reference.

Dude is too busy being a ruse master to learn anything valuable.

>>9579361

What is this purported "empirically correct information"? Show me.

I'd love to have a look at what you use to justify your expenditures.
:-)

Hey PF, I picked up an astro with a few missing buttons. is it possible to find the exact buttons or should I just replace all of them?

>>9579345
>>9579353
here, last post I'll make, but this web conspiracy theorist expert is not me:
>>9579355
>>9579374
>>9579378
that being said, a lot of things WILL start to make sense if you look at what a dumbfuck michael kard was as recently as two years ago. That's all!

>>9579396
Thanks timber. Hope your new fashion life is going well! Glad your autism has paid off!

I kid, you're a genuinely cool girl. Sorry the freaks round here scared you off.

>>9579396
That's his stalker btw. He likes to create multiple personalities and emulate posters (you, in this case) to try to throw of off his scent. He stalks other trips too.

Truly a worthwhile human being!

>>9579395
pretty sure they're just plastic should be easy to find

>>9579409
No, none of those posts are me. I actually engage with Pigfuck constructively in the rare instances where he chooses to behave and communicate like a human being instead of a chimped out 12 year old. I've been very civil in this thread, I don't know who the other posters are that are derailing one of the few cool threads that have been hosted on /fa/ in recent weeks/months. I leave such paranoid speculations to pigfuck, he's a master of them.

>>9579407
not her. Want me to prove it?

>>9579395
Since you have the originals you could just bring them into a decent tailor/alterationist and they should be able to find a near enough match. I've done it with a few CDG and Miyake pieces and you can't tell which buttons have been replaced. Cost less than $3 a button as well including labour.

>>9579417
aren't u the schizophrenic that bursted into tears and broke when u wore yohji and looked in the mirror?

>>9579407
>timber accusing other posters of being timber
Oh timby you forgot you wore this trick out last time you tried ghostposting (tm)

>>9579396
"web conspiracy theorist"


What are you even implying? Do you think that designers couldn't possibly be screwing you over? have you actually observed how things are done in the industry? I encounter many consummers like you who refuse to be informed either b/c they can afford to spend oodles of money without much concern or they only hear whay they want to.

You must inspect your own internal processes before you dismiss others' critiques. People can be quite perceptive.

>>9579409
I'm not his stalker although it appears we have merged into one person...or so it seems. The fellow is quite elusive.

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>>9579440
Oh man, m'starting to sympathize with him now.

I dont think these asses understand us, bud. For the record, I think you're OK.

See ya l8er!

<3

>>9579438
>>9579440
okay now I do want you to prove you aren't timber, timber

>>9579422
Yeah sure

>>9579438
>You must inspect your own internal processes before you dismiss others' critiques. People can be quite perceptive.

Hey nice man how's philosophy 101 going

>>9579430
No, I'm the original pf stalker who shitposts in a majority of white noise, attention seeking threads. Although pigfuck, and apparently you, identify up to five different anons with me and my shenanigans; who knows what they've been up to. It's nice that we've been able to have a good thread up til this point. Maybe we should just start a patrician general and pigfuck can be a contributor instead of the thread creator to minimize people trolling him to chimp out. He's just so easy to get to overreact. He's been doing a good job just ignoring it so far. Keep it up, Martin.

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>>9579451
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>>9579417
>>9579458

Just these two are me, Martin. Don't be fooled by inferior substitutes.

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its all shit, its obvious its not one person. big old clit is responsible for like 50 shitposts itt alone

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>>9579472
lol

dude
duuude

?!
>patrician thread

back in the trash u go

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