/lit/ here. I have a /fa/ relevant philosophy question. Why

elitism, hedonism, sense of identity, functionality, art, a hobby to keep you occupied.

To better how we think people perceive us.

We pretend to dress for ourselves, it is always- always to improve how we are perceived.

>>8954343
I welcome walls of text by the way, I far prefer that over some snide, uninformative comment.

>>8954343
To feel better than everyone else. To stand out.

>>8954343
A hobby, sense of satisfaction of wearing nice clothes or for some "to be trendy"

>>8954343

Why do u read?
Why somebody should spend the best years of their life writting a book that prob nobody would read?
etc

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>>8954343
To compensate for insecurities.

>>8954357
>>8954361
This saddens me. And I was thinking I might get into fashion. Personally I start my day in pajamas and finish them in the same, and I don't give a shit what people think about it.

>>8954371
Basically for
>>8954353
these reasons, minus the sense of identity. Books are an escape from ones identity.

>>8954343
its a hobby, i guess
i just enjoy crafting my fits everyday

Socrates would say it is redundant, and merely a distraction from true well-being, the well-being of the mind.
Other philosophers would say that materialistic well-being is a way to enlightenment of the mind.

This is a rather complex debate you'r opening up here and answering your questions doesn't even come near the heart of the debate, since it's so easily answered.

>Why do you "do fashion"?
1. Expression
2. Look good = feel good
3. Grills

>Why should I?
Same as above

>Why should anyone?
Same as above

because i know what i like, and i wouldnt be true to myself if i dressed in a manner that opposed that

>>8954382
>This is a rather complex debate you'r opening up here and answering your questions doesn't even come near the heart of the debate, since it's so easily answered.
I know, I didn't expect any philosophical treatise here, I'm just curious about this board's culture.

>>8954402
okay well I think all possible reasons have been listed

To stand out
To express yourself(or whatever you want to express)
To attract girls
To compensate for insecurities

What we wear have a big effect on first impressions, of any kind. Try showing up to a job interview in a wifebeater and sweatpants if you doubt it. To other people we are what they see, and we wear what we want them to see.

>>8954373

I'm the same way, mostly. I just stay clean. You can get pretty far if you just tried to take good care of yourself

however, there are days when i see something that looks especially nice that I want to try out. It really pumps me up when I wear something thats visually appealing to me.

>>8954402
>board's culture
loose weight fuccboi, palewave or goof u faggot haha nice memecut
>not having a buzzcut i the year of our lord ricky
tfw girls laff at your bends cuz ur a manlet
is this /fa/?
>still wearing plastic and rubber
techwear general
no poo for a year, how am I not dead yet, my stomach hurts like fuck every day
ralph and simon richard usually im dressed in these brands
yoshi yamatamato: "dark is cool stay away from me and I wont hurt you lol"

Because maybe somebody will see me and remember me, and they'll think of me often and fondly and magnify my personality and my traits and end up loving me, even though we've never made eye-contact.

Just like I do with a lot of people.

:/

Also its the only type of art besides writing I have a shot at being decent in.

Don't judge the above as a sample of my writing, btw, I don't try hard when I post on an anonymous website about Newfoundland whaling communities

i do fashion because its a way to express myself and pretend im clever

i used to care a lot about how people saw me on the street, but i have like... some close friends and i don't really have time/a need to meet more people, so it really doesn't matter how people on the street see me. but i get a sense that the "want to look good to others" is a prevailing /fa/ motivation.

so now i basically dress like crap and take gambles on esoteric thrift store finds, it makes me feel good to put my clothes together to convey a message, even if the message is "i'm showing up to this party in friggin sweatpants/ i look like a masculinity-obsessed lumberjack"

basically its dress-up and that's cool, identity is malleable and why take anything seriously

>>8954343
>No /fa/ggot has the right to be an amateur in the matter of fashion... what a disgrace it is for a man to grow old without ever seeing the beauty and strength of which his fits are capable" -socrates

can i ask you guys your sexuality?

>>8954550
full-blown faggot

>>8954528
Poem 8, starting from paumanok, Leaves of grass

Take that and make it devoted to /fa/

I'm far too lazy to type all that :/

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>>8954343
more assemblages the better

>>8954523
I like you.

>>8954550
full hetero but I'd fuck a friend of mine who is male.

>>8954550
Hetero Male boy, emotionally absent doucebag who used to have a crush with a boy when I was in middle school.

>>8954550

I like girls that aren't too feminine, or boys that aren't too masculine and people with a personality similar to mine.

i dont know, is being attracted to androgynous people a sexuality?

>>8954343
because I'm narcissist as fuck and I want to improve the way I dress to admired myself even more.
I still lift and try to improve myself in general on a daily basis thought.

>>8954550
I've been questioning this since a few days ago. I like androgynous looking girls and I guess I like cute bois, but I've never seen a guy in person that I've been attracted to, I don't think. I see cute girls all the time and I wanna look at their faces but I never feel that way about guys.

I've been jerking off to gay porn last two days and I cum, but I'm still not sure. I like the thrill of it, cause it's new and weird but I'm mostly jerking off to the act of fucking someone. I watched dick sucking videos, but I'm not sure if I like it.

>>8954550
Honestly I was wondering some time ago, but I finally realized that I was fully attracted to the sweet pussy.

>>8954372
Someone extend his neck and give him more cokes.

>>8954550
Uber-mysoggykneeist hetero.

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>>8954372
>>8954960
Quick attempt.

>Why do you "do fashion"?
Its fun
>Why should I?
You might enjoy it
>Why should anyone?
See above

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Because I choose to.

>>8954343
Because it will help you achieve your goals. You are essentially manipulating people's perception of you, for the better. In 90% of the situations, looking fashionable/well dressed can only help-job interview, opposite sex, pulled over by cops, general first impressions etc. It is a sign you understand the game, and play it to win.

it's just something to do OP. You aren't getting any cool points in the after life for doing it. I just do it to feel good and look good. My style now is comfortability so I dress how the outer world to accent my inner world.

"fashion" as a word has become loaded with so much shit about desperate people trying to fit into seasonal trends but I always admired people who turn their body into an extension of their will. Bodybuilders, atheletes, tattoo artists, transexuals, whatever. Dressing the way I like is a part of that. It's taking control of the expression of this weird meat vehicle my consciousness is locked inside.

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>>8954343
Why wouldn't you put special care into how the rest of the world will see you?

Why do we talk to other people, or worry about our diction, etc.?

Humans care about being noticed, and being thought unique. There's no reason this should be the case, but it is. Fashion can be, when done right, an extremely powerful tool for differentiating yourself and making a strong impression on people.

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>>8954832
Gaaaayyyyy ur a full blown faggot.
Enjoy ur pride parade and aids. Top kekel

>>8954433
>To other people we are what they see, and we wear what we want them to see.
/thread

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>>8957537

>>8954650
>>8954687
>>8954708
>>8954874
>>8954832

just finished grading your exams; Results show, verily, you have all been confirmed gay

>>8957646
Yup. We know what we are talking about, we are scientists

I like to interact with an environment that is literally around me in an aesthetic and creative way. All the practical and social factors make it even more interesting.

>>8956793
Definitely agreeing.

>>8954550
I love pussy.

Somewhere down the line as a young boy, I wore a nice shirt and got complemented on it. felt good.

Also I'd argue that half of the animal kingdom uses colours and shapes to attract the opposite sex. I'm skinny AF so fashion is how I compensate.

>>8954343
You wear fashion for the same reason you go to the opera, to enjoy art. That's the good reason (and my reason).

The more superficial reason is to show off. >>8954353 /thread actually

>>8954343
Socrates never wrote anything you fucking pleb whatever information we have of Socrates' teachings are found in Plato's various dialogues, which is where that quote.
So Plato said that, not Socrated.

Well, everything we do or wear communicates something to the observer - why not try to take control of that?

You might see it as self expression thru consumption, but an understanding of designer ideologies or the history/background of, say, an oxford shirt allows you to """curate""" a look, which might not look anything special to the layman, but to someone similarly adept in interpreting the semiotics of clothing - it tells a story.

Also looking cool is cool.

>>8957793
He still spoke it at some point for Plato to hear. Quotes aren't always from writing.

>>8955100
good joub

>>8957821
>but to someone similarly adept in interpreting the semiotics of clothing

You're either a fashion design freshman or fedora tipper.

>>8957947
close
>unemployed english grad

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>>8954343
Here's a reason no one brought up yet. People have said to impress others, but that's not exactly it. Dressing yourself is an act of creation.

If I walk into a room of 99 people, there are 100 universes that I am currently in, as each person has a different perception, and experiences a world shaped by that perception within that perception. Thus each person has an, in many ways, independent universe.

So let's say, for the purpose of this example, that I am a total loser. But through my dressing, I make it seem as if I'm not, as I'm someone mystical and amazing.

I know that I'm a total loser, but those 99 people don't, they think that I'm mystical and amazing.

Thus in 99 universes I am mystical and amazing, and in only one am I a loser.

So what am I really?

In any case, when I do anything to change people's perception of me I am in a sense creating a new me, which is one of the greatest powers we have.

(Plus, fashion is also fun and artful, and it is great to walk around when you're conscious of yourself and know you look great, looks from people is nice as well.)

>>8955116
lol

>>8958171
you sound totally gay holy shit

>>8958171
but i still know im a loser :(

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>>8955100
Original Requester here.
Fixed it up a bit.

>>8954343
Cool clothes are cool

I just love clothes. The craftsmanship, the design, the art, the history. I love it all. I could look at clothes and how they put them in ads all day.

>>8954343
you just answered your own question with socrates' quote. its mans duty to strive for excellence in all things. of course that's a lot to ask so you can cut it down to what you are interested in

>>8957837
Just because Play Doh says So Crates said something doesn't mean So Crates said it
You might as well take the New filament literally

Yo man how can you be from /lit/ and not understand the importance of aesthetics.

Dressing like a pleb is like narrating your life with shit-tier prose. I propose that you can't live the literary lifestyle without being effay.

>>8958568
>97

UNDERAGE B&

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>>8954463

>yoshi yamatamato: "dark is cool stay away from me and I wont hurt you lol"

Actually kek'd
This quote is my favorite meem of this board

>>8954550
Ace masterrace

I see it as a form of self love. Making myself look good, examining my body type and finding clothes accordingly is a faucet of self care and self respect.

It is also a way of projecting my taste and personality to people around me. I find clothing a very powerful communication tool, one of my time fillers during public transport is scanning people's clothing and guessing what type of person they are.

Also just plain vanity, looking good feels good.

>>8960769

that's actually a jaden smith quote

>>8960018

i like your statement

>>8957646

haha

>>8960794
hell yeah fuckin rite

>>8954832
>2 days
nigga, ive downloaded, edited, watched japanese bondage gay porn for 2 years and i dont have a slighty part of me that want to show who's gonna be the boss of this gym, youre just a hueg faggot