it disturbs me knowing Ye has this jacket and is not wearing it regularly
Pic related or exploder parka/bomber
A reusable zippable garbage bag that you can wear.
if i was super rich, i would make a bunch of stupid shit and then anonymously rebuy it on the internet for double the price i sell it for - until people beleived that it was /fa/ and worth a lot.
Nothing, unless it might be - unless it is permitted to ask, nay, to name a single strand of your hair, which surpasses the coal of the earth as the stars surpass the gems of the mine. I do not ask for such a gift. But you commanded me to name my desire
OR one of the fur coats, despite the fact that - could i afford one - i would never buy a fur coat. Possibly second hand, but it would feel iffy.
>You are given one free Rick Owens piece, despite discontinuation or year of manufacture.
Thank you. I too will redeem this kind offer. Please have the coat in the attached image shipped to me forthwith.
Resellable? Whatever the most expensive is, probably an old Revillon fur.
Not? One of the nylon jumpsuits. Not sure exactly which. Odd, I know, but they fit me and my taste better, and encapsulate the things that personally draw me to Rick, more than anything else.
Second choice would probably be either a poplin lotus skort or the cross-crotch panel cargo pants.
They're not even similar. You think that knowing those two names from an ASAP Rocky song gives you enough fashion knowledge to make good posts on /fa/? At least go listen to Fashion Killer so you have more names to drop.
You have no idea what you're talking about gl look at early Raf he he's tons of dark oversized drapey pieces like Rick. Raf moved past that phase but to say they are nothing alike is completely wrong. Study before you talk next time :)
Yeah Raf's was more rebellious and brooding compared to Rick atleast in my eyes. I don't really know enough about Ricks history to comment much more on him.
Oh and before you correct me first pic was Raf Simons fw00 Confusion and pic related is Raf ss03 Consumed
From what I know about Rick I would definitely agree with this. It's not really for me but he is still an incredible designer and truly has changed the fashion world
Rick Owens f/w 2012. (Also my desktop background)
Well the 5 runway parkas are all that much I know not 100% about the other ones though.
You can hate him much as you want but to deny his accomplishments is laughable. He's no where near to the top of my list of favorite designers but yes he has changed the fashion world.
A few more as well but no need to name them all
Lel. not even.
I was curious who he liked. I found out we shared some favorites.
It's actually apalling that you tell him that he has "No idea" what he's talking about and to "Study" before he posts, when that was probably one of the worst posts I've read all year.
Were you joking? If you were joking, 9/10
If you weren't joking, then you should take your own advice. Comparing two influencial, completely different designers based on the most superficial, shallow elements that you can look at ("dark") ("drapey") and completely ignoring, uh, you know, what the clothes actually LOOK LIKE, is just fucking retarded. They never shared a "phase", that's fucking retarded. You have absolutely no basis to be claiming that they are alike, and it only shows how painfully narrow your points of reference and ability to look at and analyze clothing and design is.
>mfw actual good discussion has dissolved into the usual shitposting
honestly, I was too hesitant to cop this colour way when they were released, but fuck do I regret it now.
I never said anything besides they both have put out similar pieces before. Nothing about process, inspiration, styling, nothing else besides they looked somewhat alike. If you cannot see this you have just a narrow views as you are claiming I have.
fucking vaginas all the way
i just saw this on page 0 and looked at the arguments and my 0.02 is that whoever said raf is better than rick because raf did "dark oversized drapey pieces" and moved on to other stuff fails on multiple levels
fails to comprehend early raf
fails to comprehend rick
fails to comprehend fashion in general?
these designers speak their own language, and have their own personal evolution of artistic expression. black is a universal color in higher fashion and is hardly a basis for comparison, same goes for large volume. may as well just claim that raf is better than yohji too, since all yohji did was "black oversized drapey pieces," right?
i know this is going to sound ridiculous, but raf's black and rick's black are different. raf's early collections picked on styles from moneyed teens, both from the era and from raf's own adolescence. black was a rebellious and wry commentary on school uniforms in some early collections.
rick's cues early on were drawn from urban america. trans, queer, bdsm, 'underground,' styles. goth and glam. not to mention rick's own architectural expression, where raf is more engaged with the 'sartorial tradition.' completely different worlds.
sourcing my claims is difficult because raf pulled videos of his early collections from his website. i'm also leaning on raf's book (redux), rick's book, and interviews with both designers.
I never claimed Raf did any style better than anyone else, I do consider him to he a better designer than Rick but that is irrelevant in this situation. I did say earlier that I don't ever claim to be an expert on Rick even Raf for that matter, but I did state the difference in their style. In my eyes they did do some similar stuff but it was inspired by very different things. I don't really know what else to say besides I like to think I understand Rick, Raf, and fashion as a whole.
this jacket went down 50% a month after is was put up, imagine the feels of the guy who bought it before the price dropped
>inb4 it was a persian warlord who couldn't care less anyways
>shitty meme designer
He may be a meme but he is anything but shitty
>nothing more than a flash in the pan
Wrong, he is hugely successful and his artistic vision is superb
>a couple years tops
Almost 2 decades.
This is my other grail.
What is the difference between these 2 Rick bombers? Besides one being drkshdw and the other being main line, they seem to be the same, except one is cheaper.
Not going to the links, but:
Mainline usually have interesting fabrics that are silk blend most of the times, not to mention the tailored to perfection fit and cut.
Drkshdw are regular fabrics like cotton and a more relaxed fit
diff materials mainly
mainline one has a seam down the middle back and slightly different seams throughout.
drkshdw one has that cool crumpled up cig pocket.
Mainline are more fitted. Just look at this perfect tailoring
some drkshdw pieces have tight tailoring too, esp when you're getting leather sleeves
I normally wear an M and a drkshdw jacket in M fits me barely in my tricep/rear delt area
in the end it's just material and a different aesthetic
rule of thumb drkshdw is not as luxe as mainline but a little more daily wear/wear n tear oriented in turn, fit really depends on the individual piece, really
at first i thought it was junior shitting up another thread but then i realized even he wouldnt be dumb enough to fucking to compare early raf to rick because of
>muh black drapes
even without your trip birthday, i can tell that you wrote all this drivel, especially in light of that fucking laughable favorite designers list. honestly if youd ever actually done any research outside of the garbage /fa/ spoonfeeds you might be able to not make yourself look like such a fucking idiot.
>I like to think that I understand Rick, Raf, and fashion as a whole
See kid the point here is >I like to think
You like to think that, but you actually don't, and you've proven it yourself through your dumb posts without even needing us to prove it for you.
Stop backpedaling so hard and think about why we're correcting you, maybe then you'll finally learn a thing or two. Your comprehension of fashion is extremely shallow at best.
>be on /fa/ the day of that runway
>everyones shitting himself
>stream is late
>suddenly all black
>my windows start trembling from the sound of that bass
>fire starts comming out in the stream to reveal a fucking tall woman walking straight thru me
that was it for me, theres when i realized rick was years ahead everyone
We literally have no reason to "prove" anything to you
Your argument was, literally, word for word,
>" Raf he he's tons of dark oversized drapey pieces like Rick. Raf moved past that phase but to say they are nothing alike is completely wrong. BUT It reminded me of a few looks I've seen from Rick but again I'm no expert"
You've already said so yourself that you're no expert and know nothing about Rick, and also that you have only seen a few things that were vaguely similar (which by the way would only look as such to someone with such a narrow perspective and understanding of clothing design like yourself), so idk where you are getting this confidence or idea that you've said anything of importance that wasn't a bunch of completely baseless subjective pile of steaming shit.
tldr they are nowhere close to smilar as you think they are and never shared a phase just because they both made black oversized clothing at one point ya idiot
You still fail to realize what I'm trying to say. There styles aren't the same, the styling isn't the same, the materials aren't the same, the inspiration isn't the same. But in my opinion they have both but out some very similar pieces. You will come back and I say I know nothing what I'm talking about but the thing is it is my opinion not yours. Yeah I probably shouldn't have used the word drapey that was stupid to say, but oversized, dark, gothic, rebellious. Yes those are all words you good easily use to describe pieces, even seasons of these designers. Again yet to prove me wrong with your gargantuan amounts of knowledge on fashion that I obviously don't hold.
i know its you birthday
youre the only one who uses that cara reaction face, and you love unironically calling people cunts despite the fact that youre underage manlet from colorado
you brought up the point that early raf is similar to rick, but have yet to back up that claim other than a cherrypicked image of an early raf runway shot that shares only the most superficial similarities to ricks work. the onus is on you to provide evidence to support your argument, otherwise you have no ground to stand on and there is nothing to debate.
furthermore you claim to understand rick, raf, and fashion as a whole, but you demonstrate a distinct lack of understanding about any of three. can you cogently elaborate on the influences in rafs and ricks work, and their subsequent relationship with the fashion industry, without describing it in meaningless grand-sweeping platitudes like "rebellious" and "truly changed the fashion world"? i dont think you can, because you dont understand raf or rick, and you dont understand the general climate and zeitgeist of the 90s fashion industry, which is essential to know if theres to be a discussion in the first place. until you firmly define your arguments, you have no ground to stand on, and there is no base for discourse.
but by all means, keep posting image.jpgs you grabbed off google in lieu of an argument. look how sick these black and drapey 90s hugo boss fits are. just like rick, right?
You are quite delusional. There is no way for me to prove at this point that I know what I'm talking about. Even if I get the answer completely right you will still say I'm wrong or find some way to prove I simply am not right. Raf around the early 2000s was heavily inspired by youth rebellion, post punk, and somewhat the military. All of this is heavily used in his shows around the time. Easily seen in things like military surplus heavily used, constant references and use of bands I mean a whole show was dedicated to Saville, also right before 2000 you have designs basically replicating boys school uniforms. All of these were used in his early designs so much because of how prevalent they all were throughout his childhood. Awesome I was wrong about Rick sure there are a couple pie es that remind me of each other. I'll admit that, but don't claim I know nothing about Raf because that is just a plain lie. Ive gone out of my way to find and read everything that is readily available to me about him. I find it fascinating and will continue to read and learn more even if to you it is pointless.
(1) the drkshdw jacket has a "crinkly" texture and a loose fit. it's probably decent, but you can find this type of bomber jackets that looks similar from cheaper brands.
(2) bomber jacket without padding. probably about as warm as a sweatshirt. has a neat clean look.
(3) bomber jacket with down padding. similar to (2) otherwise. i think in this category the rick bombers blow everything else away. the padding is distributed very well to preserve a clean look.
it looks like it has less padding than most padded rick bombers, but i'm not sure if it's just the pictures that give that impression or if it's a slightly different model.