How can I dress to let people know I listen to Jazz (but not freeform jazz)?
>discuss clothing trends
>post inspo (pic related is Max Roach)
>bump with favorite jazz songs, albums, and musicians
I'll start by posting one of my favorite albums– Scenery, by Ryo Fukui
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hrr3dp7zRQY
>>12645565
Wow another poser who pretends he "likes jazz" because YouTube reccomended him a meme album by an untalented gook.
Formal, Causal, but relaxed
First for Thelonious Monk
>>12645565
>Scenery, by Ryo Fukui
I don't even care for jazz but even I know that's pedestrian shit lmao
>>12645569
>pretends he likes jazz
What reason do I have to pretend? Why does it matter that I like this particular album?
>>12645574
I'm pretentious and I don't want other people to enjoy things.
>>12645572
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4ZyuULy9zs
I forget who it was written by but this is one of my favorite Billie Holiday songs
>>12645583
>>12645572
Sorry, didn't mean to reply to you
>>12645570
When doing this you have to flaunt some design and texture in bit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbxtYqA6ypM
Chet Baker was pretty /fa/
Scenery is very vanilla but I don't see a problem in me liking it
>>12645565
You just gotta ask yourself one thing OP, are you hep to the jive? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wraBUdSErI
I'm actually a jazz drummer and a snare drummer (6 years), but I usually dress in raf and margiela. Loose and comfortable. How should I dress instead?
My favorites are Eric Dolphy, Freddie Hubbard, Ari Hoenig and Chick Corea. As for clothes, who cares? Go comfy dress casual.
>>12645613
Guess it just depends on the kind of jazz you do. What do you usually play?
>>12645613
barf simon margayala usually what dressed xdddd
>>12645613
Like this
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This is a kind of balkan/klezmer rendition of "Feelin Drowsy," by Red Allen. The band is Petrojvich Blasting Company
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2R3SvR6vDg
Dumping my comfy semi-casual inspo
>>12645570
>>12645613
Any jazz musicians lurking? What do you play?
>How can I dress to let people know I listen to Jazz
only on /fa/... holy shit
Mingus is my fav btw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KozkReSD0G4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkdCr9HlRE0
Sidney Bechet is pretty GOAT
>>12645637
Need more of this, it has the color flare and the design.
I play jazz guitar quite a bit and I wear a lot of flannel, big sweaters, turtlenecks, dickies, and derby shoes. Most of my clothing is black and loose fitting
now posting the most effay
>>12645645
Are your sweaters usually textured or solid? Are they also darker in color?
>>12645644
Wish I had more like that but I don't know many new jazz artists so most of the photos I find are in black and white
>>12645650.....>>12645648
I should rephrase: Do your sweaters have patterns or are they a solid color?
>>12645628
play alto sax. no band atm though.
>>12645565
>"I-I like jazz too guys!": the album
>>12645674
plz don't use Bum Tickley in a shitpost, he deserves better
>>12645676
I normally wouldn't but that album cover is a god-tier reaction image
>>12645656
solid usually
>>12645565
>>12645628
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>>12645656
Sup guys, Ive been playing in a successful junior jazz band in high school and while I got into a different field in uni, I know quite a few young guys who got into music school and are studying jazz etc. Im not gonna post their pictures but I can tell so much, they wear simple casual formal wear mostly. The thing is, the really good musicians don't give too much of a shit about their clothing, they just care about their music too much. The formal thing comes from having to wear a somewhat formal attire at gigs.
For specifics:
No sportswear
shirts are good, mostly black/grey/dark, but white is ok as well
dark blue or black jeans
general earth tones
for shoes, simple sneakers, black or white, or warm colors
grandma knitwear / simple dark cardigans etc
if you look to well put together, you will come across as pretencious and not about the music
>>12645794
cmom man post their fucking pictures
>>12645574
i agree. the trolls come out first, ignore these insignificant pests.
I to have realized i enjoy jazz music. i usually listen to it in the car when im alone. but dont know where to start or any recommendations.
so far its been Otis Redding and Ray.
>>12645637
this is takuya kuroda anon, japan has some super comfy jazz.>>12645648
this too. Rising Son is probably his best album.
Ibrahim Maalouf makes groovy jazz. he's far from /fa/, has his own thing though. french/lebanese https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGznLOuFwpM
>>12645593
God damn that hair, 10/10
>jazz
>>12645617
Complicated and abstract drumming. Soothing and slow for alto and alto parts for bari (I hate getting low brass parts). I guess Coltrain is a close contender for drums, but I prefer sax to be classically oriented. I really wish it was possible to say you like classical or jazz without sounding pretentious.
>>12645619
eggsdee
am >>12645613
>>12645662
I also play alto and bari. What's your setup?
Also a question to other sax players, in what ways should picking up affect my sound when playing?
>>12646351
would picking up smoking*
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>>12645565
/fa/ is, by no doubt, the worst board.
>>12645794 here
>>12645852
regarding car driving jazz
horace silver - song for my father
coltrane - equinox
herbie hancock - butterfly
dizzy gillespy - matrix
also dizzy g - manteca
wayne shorter - speak no evil
sonny rollins - st thomas
those are some of a playlist of mine
>>12646351
i know lots of sax/trumpet players and NONE smoke. And thats in a scene where generally lots of people do. I guess it fucks up your lungs too much
>>12646636
figured. lots of my instructors don't aswell.
>>12645852
>>12645656
>>12645565
Jesu fuck fa, today is the day that I leave you.
As a profesional pianist I please implore you to stay in your youtube recomendations and dont dare show your face in a jazz club.
also fuck yall im a jazzist who comes here because i dont want to look like all the fag jazzists in my profesion and you dumb fucks turn this shit up on me
you dont even listen to jazz you dirty disgusting op
>>12645565
dress like this OP
We need more inspo threads like these drawing inspiration other things.
>>12646261
is Mobely the GOAT hard-bopper?
>>12646553
have you been to /b/? /v/?? /trash/???
/fa/ isn't good, not many boards are, but I think your post is unnecessary hyperbole
Guys does it happen to you that from "classic" jazz albums you like only one or two songs, but from your favorite contemporary artists you like whole albums and discographies?
I don't know how and why but happens to me a lot, is contemporary jazz really that different?
From the past era I can say I really like just Thelonious Monk and Bill Evans, from contemporary it is lot of musicians, mostly piano and bass players
>>12647336
ugggghhhhhhh
fucking plebs
>>12647486
Yes I expected this, now tip your fedora and go away
neat thread
>>12645628
been learning drums for the past year now trying to focus on jazz drumming. My kit is pretty wonky but I practice a ton and I'm really starting to feel a grove
Really into Max Roach and Bobby Hutcherson at the moment
For jazz dressing inspo there is brian blade
>>12647539
But he usually wears just dark shirts and chinos, optionally some sweater over that
>>12647336
I think with a lot of things, not just jazz, people tend to be pulled in by the contemporary forms, and selectively like some of the more classic forms. Eventually, they graduate into being more selective about the contemporary they like, and more appreciative of the classics they once overlooked.
i like jazz too op :)
my favs are john coltrane, miles davis, the list goes on XD
>>12647545
But imho you can really feel the difference there, if someone would play any recording in high quality, you would still be able tell if it is contemporary piece or not
All the subgenres just evolved to something that they have that same modern sound, groove and vibe
>>12645565
quality thread.
I recommend works by paul desmond. Very chill to listen to when studying or general background music. "Paul Desmond - Here's to that Rainy Day". I used to play the trumpet. Regret dropping it.
Jazz-esque fashion would be something relaxed in most situations (not particularly comfy). Able to fade into the background but still a striking silhouette
>>12647486
im a jazzist, if you want to know jazz so bad get a fucking jazz book, there are plenty.
you mad because you know you sound like an absolute shithead
i studied monk and bill for years and am very intimate with their work and life, let me tell you first hand they wouldve hated you
what you all dont get is a big part of jazz is feeling contempt for everyone else, especially untalnted and uncapable people like you
>>12646351
Obviously it's not as bad as for singers because the scratchiness in your vocal chords isn't as profound but I definitely have noticed a difference in lung strength immediately after smoking. No long term effects for me yet but I don't smoke often
t. saxophonist who smokes weed once or twice a month and a cigar once or twice a year
>>12645581
/fa/ in a nutshell
>>12645626
Id on shoes?
>>12649056
*4chan
>>12646739
>>12646739
Listen to this man, bunch of fags
"For me, music and life are all about style"- Miles Davis
>>12645565
>"songs"
>Scenery is one of his favourite albums
fucking hell mate listen to more music and stop embarrassing yourself
Further commodifying an already academicized and appropriated music such as jazz for your personal gain is fucked up and so fake. Wanting people to know you like jazz is the most tryhard thing ever and the fact a lot of you are hardly listening to anything beyond YouTube recommendations with no capacity for true appreciation of this music is sickening. Fuck off and stay away from music that's already had its identity altered by white people and become white enough. But at least those whites were contributing to the music and not using it as a fashion accessory.
>>12645565
>youtube-recommendations-core
>>12649545
>look how black I am
>>12648986
You're an idiot and I hope you're not actually a jazz musician, because if you are I never want to play with you
and so are most of the rest of you. If you have to dress a certain way to show you like a particular type of music ya got issues
>>12649603
im white lol. but its definitely annoying to see other white kids thinking they love jazz because they listen to kendrick and kamasi washington.
its annoying for anyone to be performative about an interest (especially when you devote real time and energy to the same interest) when they only have the interest of a dilettante
>>12649672
Kendrick lamar? Or which kendrick?
>>12649545
Sounds like Mingus's "Dilettantes of Style" rant.
To quote:
“You don’t want to see your ugly selves,” he told one audience. “So you come to me, you sit in the front row, as noisy as can be. I listen to your millions of conversations, sometimes pulling them all up and putting them together and writing a symphony. But you never hear that symphony…. You’re here because jazz has publicity, jazz is popular, the word jazz, and you like to associate yourself with this sort of thing. But it doesn’t make you a connoisseur of the art because you follow it around. You’re dilettantes of style.”
I think a lot of you guys are overly hostile to the idea of looking the part.
Before this decade, fashion was considered an integral part of subculture, and looking the part was not important necessarily in its own right but rather served as a way to both express the aesthetic and mentality of that subculture and thereby attain authenticity to one's self and their public image, and signal to other members of the community their common interest and thus promote opportunities for socialization and kinship.
Of course there have always been poseurs and there will always be poseurs, but communities never base identity off looks alone, and have ways of ascertaining for themselves who is truly "with it" and who is not as soon as the connection has been made and the mouths start yapping.
I think it's more pretentious to be hostile to the complementary aspects of a subculture than to not be.
>wanting to dress like a literal stereotype..
Then I see ppl in here getting upset saying how "this is for you and it doesn't matter what ppl think!" "Why would I pretend!?"
I like many kinds of music jazz and golden oldies and swing being one of them yet I keep my fashion separate from my music, because you're fashion shouldn't revolve entirely around what you listen to because you'll end up becoming a stereotype and seem very 1 dimensional which most ppl don't want to be or seem
And not only that you shouldn't restrict yourself to only ONE style
Personally I really enjoy milspo/lunarcore/sandcore/streetwear/americana etc
And switch it up every once in a while so I don't get bored,
if you want ppl to know you like jazz go to a fucking jazz club or jazz cafe and talk to ppl about artists you really like
Just like if you're into cars go to a fucking car meet and car club etc.
Don't make yourself dress up because you want ppl to know you like certain things that's what ppl like goth/emos do all thr time and it's very obvious and they're usually all the same because they think in a hive mind mentality and dress accordingly
>>12645565
This is good outfit
>>12649834
Kekked hard.
>>12649738
Yeah Kendrick Lamar.
>>12649745
I've never read that but yup that's more or less what I'm getting at. It became a way for whites to seen "high brow" while the musicians playing for them can't even drink out of the same water fountain and have to eat in the back. It's fucked up and the same shits happening here with kids wanting to seem cultured or cool because they listen to the top 5 jazz hits on Spotify
>>12649672
Am I the only one who doesn't know who these are?
I mostly just listen to my jazz radio app and usually just listen to classics like Coltrane/Miles Davis/Ink spots/Fitzgerald/Dean martin/sinatra/etc, etc, etc don't really pay too much attention to new stuff very often
Usually just golden oldies and classic jazz and swing
>>12645565
For your consideration, fedoras, porkpies, and trilby hats, as well as their straw equivalents, could look jazz if worn with nice enough clothes, but /fa/ seems to frown upon very traditional headwear on a regular basis. I would suggest that if you look like you know how to handle it properly, it's fine, yet it represents a personal, yet very apparent characteristic in public, if you are willing to take it up. These hats are mostly representative of jazz music's early stages, and not as much of the contemporary scenes, despite somewhat of a resurgence within recent years.
>>12649927
pleated trousers and a white t is basic in the look and will complement those hats
>>12649786
Is it possible to pull off that fit out of south park?
>>12649869
He has something to do with jazz? Never heard any of his songs
>>12650024
He's a rapper. Supposedly he means the samples chosen for the beats.
Dumping some inspo that moved to my SD card with my music
>>12650122
>>12645632
wtf? this isnt the type of clothing associated with jazz at all
>>12650126
>>12645656
>>12645650
these are just straight up cuckcore
>>12650129
Love the sweaters and collars here. Very comfy and dad
>>12650143
These trousers hnng
>>12650154
Check louis' socks and the cut of his pants
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>>12650169
Finishing with the most stylish of all jazzmen. I highly recommend the documentary "I Called Him Morgan", everyone that knew him makes ot clear that he never had less than the utmost poise and swagger. An /fa/ idol of mine
>>12645569
Oh shi-
I never understood the high praise for Jazz.
I mean I don't hate it, I even like incorporating some of it in my own piano playing at times.
But it's far from my favorite genre.
But people really tend to like (or pretend to like) this genre a lot because it makes them feel sophisticated or something like that.
Is there anyone who legitimately likes Jazz for the music or is it the atmosphere associated with it?
>>12650299
>Is there anyone who legitimately likes Jazz for the music or is it the atmosphere associated with it?
I do quite a bit. I got into it because I really enjoy the sort of give and take you get when you're playing with
>>12645628
Guitar. Really into a lot of contemporary artists right now. Julian Lage, Nir Felder, Lage Lund, and Gilad Hekselmen.
>>12650307
fucking phone
When you're playing with particular people you vibe with
>>12650299
Yeah I liked it cuz my dad played it for me when I was a kid. I didn't realize it was "cool" until after I started playing and listening to it
>>12649957
That works, as well.
>>12650307
are there people who smoke weed because they enjoy it or is it the atmosphere associated with it?
I would argue that without people actually enjoying the music there wouldn't be an atmosphere associated with it, much less a praise for it.
There are a ton of posers though.