too old for /fa/

>>11727861
why are you "dressing up" all the time? being /fa/ shouldn't feel like you're dressing up.

>>11727861
no honestly the only reason people dress up is to get chick's. after leaving college and entering the work force you will notice you don't have time to get chick's. it's also harder to get chick's at work and you probably won't feel like going to the bar or club a lot. so you might only dress up nice on weekends. but after 24 or 25 you will have grown out of that party life. so it's safe to say you don't need to dress fashionable after college.

>>11727861
Yeah I'm turning 24 and the only reason I'm still into fashion is because I work at a high end retailer, so we're expected to look nice and trendy. On days off, definitely just wear a t shirt and jeans though. I've stopped caring entirely

>>11727882
>>11727876
>>11727861

what the fuck im 25 and still try to dress good every day, whats wrong with you guys

>>11727861
>>11727876
>>11727882
I really wonder what you people dress like. If you enjoy "dressing up" or if you enjoy a specific type of clothing or look, why would you stop just because you're not a freshman anymore and can actually afford clothing?

I am 23 and just getting into dressing better. Obviously some styles are not wearable past teens but to say it's over now is ridiculous.

30 year old checking in

Just got married in July, first met my wife when i was 27. We made contact for the first time when she approached me at a mutual friend's birthday party and the first thing she said to me was how "fashionable" and nice i looked. It took off from there. So yea, always dress to the best of your ability.

>>11728097
kill yoself grandpa

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Only stop being /fa/ when you die.

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tfw 23 years old and feel like such an old cunt

tfw was only 20 yesterday

>>11728432
casey neistat?

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>>11728451
No. It's this guy who's like 100+

>>11728453

This man is my hero and I hope I will still be dressing nicely when im that age.

>>11728102
Why would you say that to your granddad

>>11727861
>tfw 26 and still on this god damn site
It's biz cas everyday for me

Omg now i feel depressed. I'm a failed normie, 23 years old, and yes i dress up for girls, and i still crave that 18 yrs old life sooo bad but i'm just too much of an insecure bag to actuallu even have a friend. And yet i still fantasize about living that life everyday, i'm not satisfied yet, i don't want to be 25 yet, i want to go back to my 18 and re do everything correctly :(( i, i just can't imagine if i had to stop at 25. I feel like i still have desire worth 10 years more..

>>11728529
Plus everyone here be like "i dress up for job" "i dress up for etc etc important and goal-y stuffs". Wtf, i dress up for fun and to make people think of me the way i want them to think. I feel pathetic now.

>>11728538
You sound pathetic

>>11728541
Yeah i know. Plus i still think about how i would dress up, everyday. I still envy people at my age who's doing good life with friends. I, everytime, always fantasize doing a chill conversation, like what words would i say that will impress girls, etc etc. Fuck, how to be normal ?

im 27 and fly as fuck

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>>11728529
i know this feeling all too well

>>11727861
>>11727873
This

The fuck are you talking about? How difficult is it to make an outfit before you leave the house? You don't have to walk around in a suit or even a button up. Just make sure your colors work and your shit fits.

>>11728584
The fact is, i think about outfits all the time. I always want to shop. I dress up just because it's fun, not because it's functional for whatever it is important stuffs that i'm involved. (And i'm not involved in any important stuffs that require dressing up, besides college. I'm 23. No hangouts with friends because no friends. Oh fuck me)>>11728584

>>11727861
is that you're excuse? kek

>>11728553
Let me vent one more time. I also wear stuffs reflects the hobbies i'm interested in (also, those hobbies are stuffs that i wish i could be part of). I still listen to stuffs that i wish i could enjoy sincerely without social pressure, etc etc

>>11728595
What for, it's not even that complex or hard?

You just grab some stuff from your closet that works together.

>>11728605
You need to stop being such a fucking pussy

>>11728609
What part is such a pussy ? What part should i stop doing ? Idk man i can't just quit wanting to be/feel something, i'd have to actually experience in order to actually feel satisfied and not curious anymore

>>11728607
Yeah i know but now fashion is a hobby for me. I shop more than i need, i browse fit all the time, i change my aesthetics all the time, and of course i think about how people would think when i wear those. Like i hope they don't think i listen to A Day To Remember.

So, no one is actually dress up for fun ? So here everyone in /fa/ is just for something functional ? Your hobbies aren't fashion ? People are here not because they feel they have good taste but because they feel they have bad taste ?

>>11728529
>tfw I barely felt like a real male until 21 and was too beta and gay to take full advantage of those late teen years
Why live

>>11728659
Exactly. I want to be 18 again, i'm not satiesfied yet, i still have the curiosity to party, hangover, banging tons of girls, dressing up for concerts, dressing up for weekend with fashionable friends, etc etc. Now it's too late to start

>>11728631
Stop worrying about social pressure and just like what you like

>>11728515
Nice save

>>11728670
Dude, all the people I've been going to concerts with still go to concerts. Also men don't dress up for concerts. They all wear a band tee, 511s, and vans or chucks.

>>11728700
Yeah but my point was the whole stuff, the whole set, i've never experienced it. I haven't had friends for 6 years or so. I've been just hanging out with my brother who's 4-5 years younger than me. I don't develop like the other 23s. I feel like i'm missing out a lot, and i think about it everyday. And yeah of course i envy other people.

>>11728515
To get his appartment ofc. Because you know I suck at everything exept smoking weed and playing vidya so I doubt I can afford my own apartment ever.

>>11728097
What were you wearing?
Is the man in the pic >>11728432 you?

I need guidance. I need motivation to be what a guy my age should be

>>11728866
That would depend on your age, and wtf you do with your day.

All of you dressing up for girls should just leave this board immediately. Now I know why it's impossible to discuss fashion here when all you care about is how your ocbds fit your silhouette. fuck off

>>11728880
I'm 23. Just uni, and 4chan, nothing else.

>>11728891
What should a man dress up for ?

>>11727861
No offense OP, but it sounds like you were always just a fashion poser. I'm currently 27, and I'm still trying to improve my style everyday. As a matter of fact, I was 100% not effay when I was 23.

Furthermore, if this feels like a task, then perhaps it's not your thing. A friend of mine told me that fashion should not feel like "dressing up" or putting on a costume, it should be comfortable and natural. You would still need to go and buy clothes, and I guess that you will have to make fashion decisions then. Hell, even if you dress generic and formal for your job, you will still need to make fashion decisions. I don't get you senpai.

>>11728891
What if i dress up to make people think i'm superior to them ?

>>11728709
what stops you from experiencing everything right now?

>tfw 26 but youthful face
fuck all of you early aging early-20s shits

>>11728631
>Idk man i can't just quit wanting to be/feel something
That's not the pussy. The pussy is not being what you want to be, and not feeling what you want to feel.
>And of course i think about how people would think when i wear those.
And of course you are more of a pussy. No one cares, and nor should you. You are spooked, my man. Literally and egoistically.

>>11728670
As an eighteen year old who wasted much of his teenage life, your posts are strongly encouraging.

Getting stuck in the past, wishing for things to have been different, is the coward's way out.

>>11728902
Same here, I go with button-up, jeans or courduroy pants in winter, suede derbies.
Basic as fuck, better dressed than the average joe in a tee and sneakers.
i guess it's kind of a prole-professional look.

>>11728971
you're just lucky. i, am not

>>11728945
self consciousness, very low self esteem, not normal/common personality, no friends, insecurity. basically no friends but i'm just too much of a pussy to start a casual conversation with anyone. i can't just go anywhere by myself, i'm scared if some people that know me see me walking alone. i don't want them to know that i'm a friendless freak

>>11728432
Jeans ruined it.

>>11728966
it's just not that easy. the obstacles are too strong, it overpowers the excitements. i just want to have meaningful friends and do crazy stuffs with them but i can't connect emotionally with anyone. i have daddy issues tho i grew up being scared of my dad, so yeah no father-son connection for me, i don't have male role model that teach me about masculinity therefore i find it hard to connect with male

idk where else to find guidance. /pol/ and /fa/ are the only boards that has the best kind of people. the outgoing and the moraled

>>11728709
Jesus Im only 19 and I was already starting to feel like this, thanks for the wake up call lmao.

>>11728088
dubs of truth

>>11727861
OP why are you giving up? Are you under the impression that life ends in your 20-ies? Cause there is no other way I can explain your situation. Because you have a mentality of a person who will never strive for more that is given to him and stop at the earliest step to the road of becoming better.

Being /fa/ is a worldview. It's about taking care of yourself and constantly improving. This might come off cliche but it's what it is. Are you gonna just settle in when you hit a certain numerical indicator? I share the same age with you and for a 23 year old you speak as if you were already wishing for your own funeral.

You seem weak willed. Not that I have particularly strong will power but I have a goal of not letting myself age at least mentally. Being open minded, try out new things, keep up with the huge pace of life. Yes, our bodies will get old, yes you will no longer be able to dress like a "hip teenage boy" but it's all in your head. Remember all those shitty articles on you saw on facebook about a 70 yo gramps beating some kind of world record or the one dressing up in sick clothing. Even then he is still ambitious and that's what is the ultimate goal.

It kind of made me sad to think that in such a world of opportunity you choose to drop everything and feel "silly". Then go conform. Be the consumer. But I know you can do better anon.

TL;DR
>never don't give up

>>11729112
i'm this guy
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>>11728529
what should i do ? what's wrong with me what needs to be fixed ?

>>11729182
Be brave and try to contact some of your old acquaintances, hang out with them and be part of their social circles.

>>11729203
i'm not interested in them

>>11729182
You have "FOMO" or fear of missing out. I don't know what kind of person are you but I've had similar feelings towards my teenage years. Cause I was a shut in. A weeb. Quite socially awkward but outgoing. I always chose my hobbies (music, video games, photography, video) over going out and staying up and throwing up.

I've noticed that all those people who spent their youth doing exactly that are now growing out of it and they don't have much left. They are now mundane and boring people who I rarely see going out or being active in social activities.

It's always that there is this pressure that you experience, that you have to live a life "full of adventure and drugs and sex and parties" but in reality why should you? Is it what you really want? If you wanted it enough you would not be complaining right now. Then it must be that you would rather enjoy reading a book or something else. I must appear to sound really cliche or vague but it's what it is. It's mostly about you.

What do you do in life anon? Cause life does not end in your 20-ies and it took me too long to convince myself that.

>>11729209
It's not important.
Social skills are like a muscle, you need to train them constantly if you want them to be strong.
If you spent a lot of time in reclusion chances are that if you'll meet someone that actually interests you you'll act like a total sperg with them, because you're not used to the pressure.
Besides, if you hang out with those uninteresting guys you'll still be able to meet new people and potential sexual partners.
Friends are disposable anyway, just use them.

>>11729031
>i don't have male role model that teach me about masculinity
A vastly overrated problem. You don't need a role model to teach you about masculinity when the whole concept permeates, and is birthed from, our culture. Further, women are often friends with men. You are simply latching onto something to blame, just as you latch onto your "missing" teenage years.

I do not know what your obstacles are. You do. If you know what your obstacles are, you can work out how to go around, or overcome, them. If they "overpower" your aims, then they overpower your aims. But it really does not sound like they overpower them. I do not think you would be posting this if they overpowered them.
>>11729209
If you want me to baby you, I will give you an idea of how to become friends with people you enjoy being with. You must undertake group hobbies that you are interested in. I don't care if it's rock climbing or LARPing as particularly autistic elves, it must be something that relies on group activity. That way you will be forced into meeting people who enjoy things you enjoy, and they will be forced into meeting you.

Yes, this will be scary. It's scary for everyone the first time. Do you think bungee jumpers aren't pissing their pants the first time they jump? Of course they are. If you are pissing your pants before bungee jumping while others are not, it is only because they pissed their pants a few years earlier than you. You haven't missed anything, nor are you locked out of anything, you're just slightly behind.

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>>11728432
This is just depressing. How can a man reach thst age and not graduate to a post-trend sense of style? He's not even dressing like one of those elderly high fashion divas, it's just sucking the teet of high end street wear, on shallow trends thst have already come and gone. The fit mightve hot 5 years ago with a certain crowd but it's an abomination now, despite the clearly high quality pieces.

Most people's grandfather's dress much better than this sorry case without even trying just by wearing the clothes they've always owned and are comfortable with. Not this shallow contrived trash.

>>11728700
Sounds like you go to some overpriced overground yuppie/dad shit, dude. Good shows are the most fash parties in every city.

>>11729271
>look at that old man memeing it up
>posts a photo from an EG lookbook

>>11729229
i'm just a college student with no hobbies and side activities.
well you know i think for me it's beyond social pressure. when i hear them talking, it sounds fun and i want to just be in the middle with them and be comfortable about it. but i can't, because i'm scared of talking to people, i'm scared of being natural in front of attractive people. i've been lonely for 7+ years so yeah.

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>>11729182
Get a dose of reality and man thebfuck up. you're a self pitying POS with a media distorted idea of the world.

Put away your shitty indie music and start reading books. Fix your diet and get test in your system. Browse /pol/ or read Culture of Critique to learn that what you believe you're missing out on is an unattainable fabrication designed to destroy civil society - you havent done anything wrong by voluntarily abstaining from normal day degeneracy. Like the desert monks of tjeb12th century, when the world is bad, the only thing left for good men to do is to refuse to participate.

But that's the easy way out. You can still find good people and good things to do. Go to gallery opens and warehouse parties (just do a search on RA for some relatively underground techno/house like an artist from LIES or Blackest Ever Black, then find the event on fb, then scan through the related events for any underground shit esp if it say msg 4 address) and take some drugs, you'll meet intelligent, educated unpozzed people. But they wont want anything with you if you don't have anything to show for yourself. that's why you have to read books.

>>11729230
>>11729257
yeah of course after years and years of finding solutions online, i've heard this solution million times. i just, don't have the energy and the balls to start doing anything

>>11729271
hear hear

>>11729271
Don't you see the self irony in his fit? You autistic fuck holy shiet you need to end your self

>>11729291
It's people from the 21st century newfag. EG wishes they could catch up on this YY shit.

>>11729305
Then your problem is that you don't have the energy or balls to start doing anything, and nothing more.

Do you have the energy or the balls to work on your energy and balls?

Why does everyone on this board act like 23 is so old?
I'm 19 but you're making me want to kill myself lmao is there anything after 22 worth living for or what? i only recently started getting attractive

not fair

>>11729307
>Don't you see the self irony in his fit?
Wew

>>11729301
yeah i think i can read books and fix my diets, that's pretty easy. i think, instead of forcing myself when i'm not ready, i have to make myself ready first from the inside, so that when i start socializing, it woudn't be much of a challenge. plus i don't care about degeneracy/not, good/bad in God's eyes, etc etc

>/pol/
i can't. i'm not white, not christian, and not from a western country. the bantz made me hate myself. although i really wish to move to the US.

>>11729315
just go all out on fashion stuffs now. and make sure to stop at 23

>>11729314
>Do you have the energy or the balls to work on your energy and balls?
idk how. okay firstly, i hate myself physically, i feel very inferior to others.

>>11729330
Fat neckbeards who never wash have plenty of friends, and do well enough.

But I admit that a lot of this sounds like deep-seated psychological shit that you should see a therapist for. And, no amount of rationality will overcome psychological issues.

>>11727861
>What age do you throw in the towel?
25 and that's just the age for women
men can go a little longer

hurry up and get in the last 2 years until your 25
you've only been legally able to drink for 2 years
anyway

>>11729344
>you've only been legally able to drink for 2 years anyway
You what.

>>11729338
>>11729338
ugh goddammit, it's that complicated huh ?

damn, why me ?

>>11729347
You are rusing me.

>>11729346
you don't live in the US?
legal drinking age here is 21

>>11729350
i don't want to go to a therapist, because they will always make me go there more than two times and i don't have that much money, and i can't just ask from my parents because my parents shouldn't know about this.

well thank you anyway

>>11729315
The median age of this board is, like, fifteen.

>>11729315
I agree with you so much. I was a late bloomer, was ugly during my youth, I only started getting confident and attractive in the last 2 years (currently 27).

I think OP is confusing things. Clearly, you won't have that much time to experiment with clothes once you start working and go to college. You might be required to abide to a dress code to a certain extent. However, part of growing up is to find a style that suits you and your environment.

Life after 22 is awesome... but yeah, you will be held accountable for what you do, you cannot fuck up things anymore. However, if you like being independent, having a career, actually earning your own fucking money... then yeah, growing up only gets better.

>>11729447
this was encouraging to read desu

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This is suck a strange thread. Why are most of you agreeing that being fashionable in your 20s is bad? Are you all 15? When your in the late 20s just stop dressing like a teenager. Teenagers dress like shit anyways.

>>11729980
It's more about the motivation to dress up. Not the style. If you still have fashion as hobby in your 20s, that's a red flag

>>11730047
How the fuck are you supposed to get into fashion before 20s without being rich ass spoiled brat anyway? I only got money for clothes now since I began to work. Of course after I hit 28-30, it will be time to stop wearing loudy stuff and go on with perhaps SLP or Prada, but before you can wear all you want.

>>11730047

now this is some bait shit

lmao if you stop dressing how you want cause your 23 youre a fag with no perception on life yet. Youre still a fuckin kid, live for yourself and not for what you think fags on an internet board think you should

Is this whole board and thread fucking retarded? or just 10 yrs old? Your 20's are literally the most reasonable time to be dressing well..... like what you only have like 3 yrs to to dress well from 17 to 20 and thats it?

>>11730104
this, I dont know when else youre supposed to be dressing well. your 20's are when youre grown enough but still young enough to really pull a look off

>>11730104
Da little faggots have the impression that only teenish twinks can look fashionable. And yeah, this thread is a trainwreck... time to sage!

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Basically if you're older than the 1992 Geo Tracker, the official car of /fa/, you're too old to listen to these impressionable 16 year old twinks' advice on what to ask mommy to buy them

>>11730141

I love this fucking poster and meme

>>11727861
Your style will change throughout your life. Take some time to reevaluate things in your closet. If you don't like them anymore, get rid of them. Then think of how you would like to dress, and find what is missing. It's a never-ending cycle.

Going out every day and being a very particular person about what makes me feel comfortable, I ended up not caring much about how I look, but mostly picking clothes to wear to work every day that are comfortable and don't clash with my sense of style.

As the daily grind was getting harder (and working in an environment where no client sees you and no boss cares what you look like) dressing up became less and less attractive a proposition. I was wearing mostly joggers all winter, running shoes to withstand the commute, and I even started wearing shorts again in the summer which I haven't done for years.

>>11730141
too bad about the rust on the fender

>>11728451
Top kek

>>11730389
>being a very particular person about what makes me feel comfortable
How did you do this ? How did you find a very particular person ?

>>11728964
just smoke cigarettes

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I'm 23 and yeah that's a polo. Do i dress my age ? What shoe should a 23 yrs old own ?

>>11727861

Outgrowing fad sneakers, Supreme hoodies and Yeezy shit is actually a good thing, OP.

Bamp

>>11727861
Giving up isn't effay, just don't dress like a tryhard fag

>>11730080
How ? I mean i honestly dress to impress people, to make people think that i'm better than them. And i'm 23. Am i doing 23 wrong ?

>>11729283
Lmao, tumblr clone pls

if I see any more fucking thigh tattoos on 5/10 chicks desperate for an identity and a cure for their apparent scoliosis I swear

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He's 23. Should i replace all my sneakers with boots and derbies ? should i stop wearing hoodies ?

>>11731810
But i still like noise and shoegaze music...

>>11731810
Then at 23 what should a man wear t shirt with ? I've buried my desire to wear graphic tees (even band tees) almost successfully, now i only do plain and stripes. But what do i wear them with ? I can only think about my favourite classic sneakers like slip ons or onitsuka tiger

>>11731810
no wtf
you're going to big events everyday?

Golden years for women are late teens to late 20s.
Golden years for men are early 30s to mid 40s.

Peak of physical youth and sex appeal for one, intersection of rising socioeconomic status and slowly declining physical strength for the other.

Smart men pour their 20s in their careers and slowly appreciate a sweeter social life later on.
The typical power-woman mimics it and gets utterly miserable when she realizes the mistake.

Dumb men piss their 20s away in drugs, cars they can't afford, not taking risks in their careers and staying employees, party school and fraternities and end up in a tiny appartment with a beer gut, no savings a divorce and a pathetic work life.
Smart women party, get married, have kids divorce then go on with their lives.

>>11731927
Sounds like smart women go for dumb men first, if divorce is on both lists.

>>11731927
>slowly appreciate a sweeter social life later on
what kind of social life ? i'm still hungry for techno parties etc etc but i just can't socialize

>>11731827

T-shirts are underwear. They should be under a shirt.
Graphic tees are a no-no.

>>11732041
is it okay to wear button down shirts without undershirt underneath ?

bampp

>>11732051
>>11732041
So is it ?

this thread is fucking depressing. im only 19 and felt so behind because ever since high school i shut myself in and didn't care about anything. let my looks go, let all my relationships go. Now I feel like I missed out on some good times ;( but this thread is also encouraging me to put myself out there and live a better life. wew lad this thread got me feeling all sorts of feels

>tfw this thread hits really close to home
(and i'm 23 too)

btw
>>11731810
pls don't, and those fits looks retarded

>>11732041
don't listen to this guy!

>>11728595
>I dress up just because it's fun

So do I. What's wrong with that? Some people drink or buy drugs with the same money.

>>11728432
w2c?


>>11728437
u gettin ready for the big dirt nap bic boi?

i don't dress up nice for chicks, i fress up nice so i can look at other people and think about how much better i am because of my fits.
so mayby just to compensate my low selfesteem

>>11732051
>>11732273
Yes, of course it is, as long as the shirt isn't see-tru and you know how to do your laundry.

to all the teenagers on this board:
your brain doesn't fully mature until you're about 22-25
there is no "end product" to the you that is you. it is very likely that your views, tastes and even personality will change as you age. all you can do is be mindful of the changes that you're experiencing and try to make the best of them.
never stop trying to improve yourself in some fashion.

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>>11729447
>>11729447

>working 9-5 in a job you don't like for the next 40 years

Not looking forward to growing up DESU

>>11728432
He looks retarded

I hope none of you dress like this

>>11731431
Drop the slip ons
Your pants seem to be ill fitting taper or find appropriate size.
I never liked polo shirts especially the ones with flashy patterns.

Your outfit would actually be nice if you swapped the polo for a white tshirt and had better fiting grey pants

>>11732518
>working 9-5 in a job you don't like for the next 40 years
That's... not the objective.
Getting dat 9-5 is easymode, An easymode that soon won't be possible anymore, but still.
You can do better than shuffling papers around a office.

>>11732618
Then what shoe ? Everytime i come up with a shoe it's always similar to that, like sambas, puma suede, af1, etc etc. what sneaker/casual shoe a 23 yr old should own/like ?

>>11732653
Cps

>>11731431
oh god no

that's an indian tier ugly polo and those shoes are terrible

>>11732668
lmao

prep faggots need to fucking kill themselves

>>11732669
That's an H&M polo. And those shoes are sick, lots of fashion gods here wear it. It looks sick in that Palo Alto film

>>11732668
Oh shit. Ok, i'll try digging into the cheap versions of that kind of stuff

>>11732653
I'm 23 too. It all depends on the look you are going for. Vans are trendy atm, so that's a safe buy. NB's have some nice sneakers with light grey colorways etc. If you don't care about branding any shoe with a shoelace will do cause slip on's do really look even more infantile than the meme /fa/ sneaker collection.

It all depends on your taste and preference and maybe even your foot. Cause for instance I'm flat foot so anything with arch support fucks up my foot and the shoe falls apart/widens real quick.

If you'd post what style you're after or what you are usually wearing that would help a bunch

>>11732672
>prep
Wat

>>11732677
I was memeing mate, they are nice but you don't need to buy a cheap clone

>>11727876
t. 14 year old

>>11731927
>mid 40s
HAHA yeh right

>this fucking thread

w e w
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>>11731927
Don't listen to this guy

This is one of those guys that will piss away their 20's in some shitty engineering school
in hopes that by the time they're 36 some beautiful blonde virgin teenage girl will be wildy attracted to their savings account and their new, used camaro and will fall into their arms and live happily ever after.

What really will happen is chad will be fugging all kinds of freshman college pussy, doing drugs and enjoying life and then settling down whenever he needs to with a retired party grill that's also ready to give up the lifestyle and have a couple of cute kids.
Meanwhile this guy will be lonely and miserable and some 5/10 slut who's finished riding the cock carousel and who's childbearing deadline is slowly approaching will quickly marry him for his resources, have a bunch of kids, then leave with them and take all his money

>>11732831
so what should be done as an anxious and depressed 23 yr old ?

>>11732897
kill [spoiler]your doubts[/spoiler]

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>>11732831
Weird how a real life Scientologist tool like that can so realistically portray that rebel character.

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>>11732897
>just be urself brah :^)
I'm not sure what you're life specifically is missing,
i guess you'd have to figure that out for yourself.
I'm just warning you not to miss out on your twenties, thinking you're too old already. because you're not. I live in nyc and all the 23-24 year old guys act like teenagers, dress like fuccbois, and go out everynight

Most normal women marry men their age or 5 or so years older (age gaps much bigger than that are usually gold diggers, sluts, or formerly divorced women with kids and other kinds of baggage) so you have 7 years pretty much to fix yourself and enjoy your life as a young guy before it becomes shameful (fix the anxiety first, and the depression will start to remedy itself), start getting a little more serious about your career in your late twenties then find a girl and get married when you're in your early thirties and shes in her late twenties.

don't die just yet