Carol Christian Poell thread. I want to know more about this

You could find pieces on Grailed, never looked for other places.

Eh, I definitely wouldn't say the brand is intended soley for display, but I think it might be fair to say they stand up equally well as standalone, aesthetic objects as they do garments.

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I have a leather jacket from 2008, and a sweater from 2003, which was from before CCP moved even further out to the fringes. A lot of people say that he stepped up his game after Deepti Barth joined (I think that was in 2005).

His tailored pieces sit very differently than other brands. They distort the silhouette and shape of the body and sit in kind of a contrast to it. He's done a lot of work with clothing as its own body. I think there's a button-down shirt on eBay with piping veins between two layers of fabric that move as the fabric moves. He did a bunch of garments lined in parachute fabric that could be dissociated from the body and dragged behind, like a shed skin.

The technical details of his patternmaking are really cool and worth seeing in person. Not many places stock his stuff, I bought my jacket from The Archive (Darklands and Ink have new stock, but the former has bad service and the latter mostly has weird color leathers).

>>11166517
What leather does he use?

>>11167883
thai boy foreskin

What are some examples of his work? I've never seen his stuff before.

>>11168064
Check out iamwilliamwilliam on Instagram, he wears pretty much only Rick Owens and CCP

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>>11168064
his biggest meme
oxblood dyed pants

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>>11167883
This.

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Best place to cop online I have found is darklandsberlin dot com. These drip shoes are so fuggin dope

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>>11167883
My leather is calf (VIT-PTC), but he uses a lot of other kinds as well, including horse, bison, donkey, deer, and kangaroo. Everyone says kangaroo makes for the best sneakers (ROOMS-PTC is better than ROOLS-PTC). A few forums have a bunch of the fabric codes written down so you can find one for a more complete view.

>>11168064
Unfortunately, it's hard to find pictures of his collections. There are a few places online you can find them, but the photos on his website are username- and password-protected. Here are some videos (generally not very good quality):

FW01: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wrXllsT54E
SS04: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_-FSqHQQxs
SS08: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khAu5juQ984
Horsetail Knickerbelt: https://vimeo.com/121459717

>>11168241
As much as I like drips, I really do feel those are more sculptural pieces than actual things you wear.

By that I mean: the drips off the shoes are what give it that added unique look and wearing them does, eventually, wear them down -- which kind of destroys that element.

But, that's me.

>>11168241
Want black ones bad.
They are probably around the same price no matter where you get them.
Are you seriously getting a pair? Jelly as fuck.

>>11166435
this. ccp is all about giving discomfort to the wearer (unless you are a masochist which i assume most ccp fans are)

kek @ using 4Chan to learn more about CCP

>>11168355
No way I could afford those lol. i just think they look cool

>>11168401

Hi Faust.

>>11166391
Ask faust. He's a fashion conesuer, and absoluletly loves CCP, just make sure you don't buy any of it from grailed

>>11168539
You probably have to make 100 posts to SZ and hundred "Ave Fausts" every evening before you go to sleep to have the privilege to make formal request for his superior knowledge and appreciation though.

>>11168346
>>11168217
>>11168205

Thanks guys, this dude is weird AF but I dig it. Cheers.

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>>11168539
shitty bait

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I will eventually get some dipped debry shoes!

>>11168642

(these aren't dipped fyi)

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>>11168539
Faust actually doesn't like CCP any more, if you read enough of the the thread. He objects to his approach to fashion as a system (e.g. not doing seasonal collections, pretty much withdrawing from public exhibitions entirely). I think that's a pretty lame excuse and that it's important to have people like CCP and Sruli Recht and Hussein Chalayan who push new techniques and materials.

There's also a lot of mythology surrounding CCP's work. He stopped producing zipped gloves a while ago and the word on the internet was that each tooth had to be affixed by hand rather than full taped teeth being put down. It was also said that he could dye leather in such a way as to maintain the veins, leading to treatments like this jacket.

>>11166517
all carol leather is from guidi

>>11167891
under

rated

>>11170247
faust is such a fucking prick and here's another reason why

>>11170247
>he objects to his approach to fashion as a system (e.g. not doing seasonal collections, pretty much withdrawing from public exhibitions entirely)
I don't understand how you can object to this

>>11170247
>It was also said that he could dye leather in such a way as to maintain the veins, leading to treatments like this jacket.

this reads like fucking Warhammer you fuckin nerd

>>11166517
>I think there's a button-down shirt on eBay with piping veins between two layers of fabric that move as the fabric moves
That sounds really interesting but I can't really imagine what you're saying. Could for perhaps search for the piece online and post it?

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>>11171177
>That sounds really interesting but I can't really imagine what you're saying.
Sure. I was wrong, it was on Darklands and not eBay, and I didn't do a really good job of describing it. It's pretty subtle on the non-zoomed photos but I'm sure it's more noticeable in person and in motion. It's on this page:
http://www.darklandsberlin.com/site/products/men/brands/carol-christian-poell/page/2

>>11170599
Just like his thread about Grailed was a thinly-veiled grasp at authority and authenticity, his opinion feels mostly based on a desire to become an "insider" with "authoritative knowledge." I guess he's already at that point, but whatever.

>>11168354
i read that they'll redrip em for you

Bump

Always wanted to know more about this guy.

His official website really confused me when I first stumbled upon it. There is no UI or anything, really.

>>11171198

Shut the fuck up. I know who you are.

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I have a pair of brand new black LUC-PTC (horse leather) derbies that I'm getting vibrammed this weekend. The smell that emanates from the dye used is incredibly strong, enough to feel it in my front sinuses, and it's currently stinking up my closet. Hopefully after routine wear it dissipates. Also when you handle them the dye rubs off on your fingers.

The patterning and materials used are excellent. The cordovan is thick as fuck and as free from imperfections as far as CCP leathers go. The shape is in my opinion far superior to the derbies from A1923 and the like which are far too round and look clownish. I might even sell my Guidi 788z's because I find their toebox much too round in comparison to the derbies.

Construction is both good and not so good. The construction of the sole and heel with the nails and shank is dreamy and probably my favorite part of the shoes. In contrast, in some places the stitching of the upper is just wonky. I'll upload some pictures of the stitching in question. Also in the interior of one of the shoes you can see a bunch of glue that looks like it was applied sloppily, but this is a minor gripe since it's not visible. In a perfect world I would have liked a properly straight stitch for a pair of shoes that cost 1.2k euro but I guess that's par for the course with CCP.

Having said all that I'm definitely getting tornadoes next.

I'll be dumping some pics of my derbies.

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>>11173272
Nails on sole

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>>11173286
More construction of the heel and sole

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>>11173302
Profile of heel construction

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>>11173310
Stitching could've been better here

I thought these shoes had some very interesting design aspects.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhvCLa7S9Qs

>>11173272
How do they feel/fit compared to the Guidi's?

I thought these shoes had some very interesting design aspects.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhvCLa7S9Qs

>>11166391
Iirc label has been down for years

>>11173418
its still up nigga but carol is a lot more conservative with his releases

>>11172745
fr, what's going on here

http://www.carolchristianpoell.com/

>>11173461
man in leather jacket breaks glass with elbow

creative genius wow

saved from the older CCP thread, coutesy of the tripfag named STHLM

Various interviews with CCP, and +50 press clippings:
http://carolchristianpoell.mak.at//publications

The above is great if you want to read up on his design philosophies.
His collections are listed on that site, but more content is unfortunately not accessible without login.

??/00 BEST BEFORE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5gAu71LZ7A [Embed]

FW/01 PUBLIC FREEDOM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wrXllsT54E [Embed]

SS/02 TRADITIONAL ESCAPE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqwK7GIyYFM [Embed]

A great article translated from German -> English can be found here:
reddit.com/r/translator/comments/3yhald/

If you want to check out garments that have been for sale:
http://www.stylezeitgeist.com/forums/tags.php?tag=carol+christian+poell

A +501 pages (dead) SZ CCP thread:
http://www.stylezeitgeist.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2604

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>ccp thread

Never will be able to afford any of these pieces but they're always cool to look at.

One of his black Blazers would be p cool

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If you spend some time on Y!JP auctions, there are a few interesting things. Mostly early stuff, which isn't quite as cool. There's a pair of these shoes in a different color and without the glue skin, if I recall correctly. Cool concept, ugly shoe.

>>11173418
Word on the street is that he's working on a new collection, but I think that's been the rumor ever since Deepti left to do her own stuff.

>>11173473
If you look closely, it's one of the "prosthetic spine elbow" leather jackets, with the titanium pads sewn in. Not that it reduces the cheese factor, or anything.

>>11173272
Those look great. Nice purchase. I'm on the fence between getting some shell cordovan Guidis and getting a pair of Tornados. I feel like the Guidis would be more versatile, but every time I see the Tornados they look so cool and so distinct. It's too bad the U-cup soles are supposed to be fragile since those look crazy.

Has he done a wrinkle or a crumple shirt? Im trying to find a picture of it but I cant.