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Cop or not thread sense the other one is dead

>pic related

picked them up high on black friday. not im not sure, r8 pls
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>>10658663
uhh looks bad senpai

$45 sweatshirt
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>>10658869
forgot picture
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>>10658663
not bad, would look v nice with cropped pants
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?
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Should I get this? £200
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>>10659032
No
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>>10659032
no
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yes or no?
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Since I didn't get an answer from the other thread
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>>10659061
Maybe in a different color
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>>10659069

You mean boring?
This one is regular suede while the light blue uses bison leather which will protect me from musket fire. Or attract it. Not sure which.
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C/NC?
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>>10658989
olive colored jackets are a meme
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>>10659163
a nice maymay though
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>>10658869
Yes
W2c?
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COS, cp rip-offs, has anyone tried them?
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Asked last thread should I cop this jacket and I'll post the jeans next
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>>10659182
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Aquascutum 100% wool coat
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>>10659192

maybe if your penis is less then four inches. bulges are so last season.
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really like this style but it seems like everyone has a pair of blundstones. any better alternatives for same price range?
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>>10659235
timberland do a similar boot
>http://www.timberlandonline.co.uk/en/mens-earthkeepers-stormbuck-chelsea-boot-5551R.html?catID=men_footwear_boots_chelsea&dwvar_color=001&dwvar_footwearSize=5075
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>>10659235
>>10659258
also have a look at timberland chelseas in general, they're really nice imo
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I can get a good discount on it.
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cop?
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>>10659307
>H&M
>2 breasted
fuck no
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Can't decide, could be great
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>>10659203
Anyone?
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>>10659258
>>10659261
thanks for the red but i admit i prefer the more seamless design of the bundstones, i also feel like the elastic bit is a little too wide on the timbers
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cop or not?
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Levi's Commuter waxed cotton work jacket
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>>10659561
also looking at coppin, y/n anyone?
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>>10659169
Sad truth supply
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>>10659369
If you dont have his style no
>>10659182
Id wear this often desu so yes
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>>10659561
easy yes
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boot people, guide me pls.
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>>10659307
are you graduating?
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>>10659713
just buy timbs
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>>10659708
COPPED
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penfield anorak, c/n?
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>>10659713
alpha industries x palladium
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>>10659767
do you commute in a rigid inflatable boat?
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LEFT OR RIGHT???
WORTH $275?
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>>10659767
i like it
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>>10660019
Right.
They look more intresting
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Which to get?
Gonna post 3 pics
I'm a guy with brown hair and navy winter jacket if that is any help
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>>10660096
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>>10660096
none

skip the meme projects
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>>10658663
Thoughts? Look good for winter IMO
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>>10660105
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>>10659597
pretty coppable desu
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>>10660118
no
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>>10660115
Since when is NP a meme? Cut it out
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>>10660137
since it creation. it was specially made to hop on the trending #menswear #heritage #americana #workwear years ago

its literally a meme brand
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>>10660149
Look behind the patch then if that's the problem
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>>10659319
looks like a shoe
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>>10660083
Cop, how much?
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Y/N
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>>10658663
>sense
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>>10660130
can't find an m65 so this will have to do t b h
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Not sure which one,
Order: common projects, Lanvin, apc

Not much of a price difference
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already copped just curious bout opinions
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Looking for a casual athletic shoe. My friend says they are feminine.
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>>10660347
i would say cp but the white tab is off putting. Go with the lanvin its prob the best quality too
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Was looking for affordable but comfortable sneakers and these fit me pretty well. Should I cop?
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Need a new parka, and found this one for a nice price. Cop?
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>>10659159
>worse looking vans
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>>10661179
w2c, didnt see them on NB site
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>>10661367
nigger, these are asics
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>>10661378
oops i had multiple tabs open from both nb and asics. either way the gt 2 isnt on the asics site with those colors, w2c
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>>10659182
w2c senpai
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shud i cawp
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>>10661451
yes
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>>10659032
Fawkin sick
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C/n
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>>10659032
hahaha fuck yea
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cop for 110$? They look vaguely Rick Owens-like imo
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Ricky mainline silk/viscose double layer tee

$170 USD shall I??
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>>10661527
That tongue probably looks horrible on feet
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>>10661540
you can flip it down like this, do you think that'd be better?
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>>10661533
nvm i just gonna get it why not
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>>10661533
If you are a skellington I say go for it, otherwise it'll look awful
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Bout fitty
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>>10661514
fuck yeah hook ups
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30% off at $214. How is the quality on these? I've never spent this much on shoes before.
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>>10661554
am quite lean but definitely partially /fit/

I like the way my other rick looks on me so I think this will fit nicely. I guess I'll see
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>>10661575
No fuck off
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>>10661560
w2c fame
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>>10661568
Yeah really like the brand, and would like to eventually skate one of his decks. Waiting for something that isn't too edgy to come out lol.
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>>10661579
Not great. Materials are slightly better than regular Adidas but the construction is the same.
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>>10660236
no
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>>10661221
yes
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>>10661451
got this for $65. so hype.
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>>10661943
cop
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>>10661943
how is the sizing on these? the site's "measurements" are vague to say the least
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>>10659032
i like the red version, link related

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZL8d25EiHQ
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>>10660378
trash
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>>10661943
>>10662096
I copped the Black one and I like it a lot, only worn it once or twice so far. I would say that it runs small, my medium fits more like a small would and the sleeves are pretty short. I would recommend going up a size.
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>>10661144
thanks

not sure if i should cop the lanvins, bust an extra 70 and get the margellas (600 total), or just wait till i get a better deal / cp's restock
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>>10662347

>margellas

>marshella wash balmer
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>>10662350
dam it machus, just help
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I ALREADY BOUGHT IT, BUT IT AINT SHIPPED YET. HURRY
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>>10661221
where
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R.M. Williams Craftsman boots in chestnut kangaroo leather.

Yes or no?
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>>10662399
Forgot image...

Yes or no?
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>>10662402
>used

it's a leather boot... the interior will be completely molded to the previous owner's foot shape now
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>>10662415
agree with this, after a certain price point shoes will mold to your feet and you wont get any comfort.
Also new isnt that much considering rm's will last you 5 eva
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>>10662415
I'm gonna buy them new. Just used that image as it seems better than stock photos.
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>>10660105
i like this one
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139€

y/n?
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>>10662445
no
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The hat. Yay or nay?
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I need a winter coat that isn't too expensive, and I want something slim.

Should I buy this? It's only $200. My main concern is the orange. You guys think it's too loud?
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>>10662548
If you are going fishing or hunting, yes
In every other case: no
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>>10658663
cop dis jacket?
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c/n?
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>>10662947
Looks pretty shit. Asos has some similar stuff that looks better, if you're really into this kinda stuff.
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80 euro
C/CN?
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About to pull the trigger on these.

>>10663151
Looks comfy. Cop.
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c/n?
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cop or nah?
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>>10663343
Depends if you've got a dick or not.
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Should I get theses? Pls I can't make my own decisions
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Are stan smiths too much of a meme?
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>>10663523
those ones yeah
get some special snowflake limited edition
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Which one?

(Top one is oversized with some kinda worn out look)
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>>10663440
Dont cop
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>>10662402
bump

buying new
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>>10663523
No, they are shoes for daily use, it's definetely a cop if u need some beaters but try to get the classic ones, they look better
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>>10663245
pro tip: don't.
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>>10660083
100% Yes, OL flannels are dope

>>10659159
Maybe, you can find them second hand for a good price. I personally don't think they are worth full price. I like the all black ones.

>>10661303
Cop if you really like it and it suits you well. This is an expensive piece anon. At that price range there are a lot of good competitors. I'd personally look at other options but the interior of this coat is dope.

Anything else in this thread is a no/not worth my time making a mass post.
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Should I buy this Globa Parka? Could also get it in black. It's 100 Eurodollars.
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y/n $50
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found them for 45% off c/n?
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Am I pulling the trigger or what?
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>>10663869
Link me fAm
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>>10658989
yes
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>>10663898
U good
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>>10659032
only if m&ms pay you
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>>10663964

or
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>>10663967
these ones
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Anyone have suggestions for cheaper knitted jumper sweaters?
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>>10662786
Only if you can pull them off, they'd be best if you were black but didn't dress like a nigger

>>10662947
No

>>10662836
No

>>10663151
Yes

>>10663245
No

>>10663341
No

>>10663440
Not at that price

>>10663569
No

>>10663523
Cop

>>10663343
No

>>10663869
I dislike this colorway but buy it if you like it

>>10663898
Buy one pair, if it turns out to be good then buy the second


>>10663932
Yes

>>10663944
Really like this

>>10663964
>>10663967
Second are the lesser of 2 evils
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>>10663347
I don't
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Yes or no
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>>10663901
http://m.6pm.com/adidas-by-raf-simons-raf-simons-response-trail-2-core-black-bright-blue-bold-orange
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thinkin bout deese
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>>10664519
I wouldn't.
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>>10661943
copped one myself, getting strong meme scents from this one, been a while since we had a solid meme jacket
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Suede Brown Shoes

I'm really hesitant. Don't want to look like a quirky hipster fuckboy.

But I think I can pull it off. And it's like 15 bucks shipped.
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pls
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Should I pull the trigger on white AF1 mids? If I buy off Eastbay I can basically throw in a package of socks for free with their deal right now
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>>10664678
I forgot to mention my alternatives, which would be some shirts I like. Basically some Death Grips shirts or a few shirts off here, namely the two glitch ones and the Eva shirt

http://syntheticintelligence.net/collections/all/products/evangelion-shirt
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should i not cop... or should i not not cop?
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>>10663944
wtc?
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>>10659203
cop if you listen to techno AND you can style it
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should I cop some fine jersey tees from AA
down to $10.50 a piece from $18 after promo code
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Thoughts for around 80 euro?

Do you think the brand is any good?
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>>10665091
>>10665077
>>10665008
no
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>>10665104
why though. on the AA
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c/n
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>>10665111
aa sucks, those shirts will shrink to a whole new fit

>>10665154
n
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>>10664652
15 is chump change
shoes look okay
if youre too dadcore or you just dont like the way they look its nothing to cry about
my worry for you anon is comfort and in the case that you do like how they look you will most likely not like how they feel when you walk in them
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$35 from $110, would swap laces with white
any comments on tretorn quality?
>>10665091
dnc
>>10664671
dnc
>>10664519
dnc
>>10664465
c
>>10664200
wont look fashionable but wont look bad and it's probs a dece coat
so c or dnc depending on what you're looking for
>>10663900
that blue color on the tags is p bad
cop but i recommend cutting the tags off
>>10663842
dnc
never liked sneakers that look like boots
i.e. brown leather

ironically im posting brown suede sneakers

>>10662836
dnc
>>10663569
top
>>10662786
c
>>10663341
dnc
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>>10665039
It's from Dries van Noten
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Alpha Industries parka
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Cop or not?
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>>10665171

Thanks for the answer.

I'm far away from dadcore. I can use shirts often but I have long hair and don't identify with dadcore, at all.

I was thinking wearing it white like black skinny jeans and a white tee. Maybe a denim jacket if its cold. A shirt and theses shoes may be too tryhard.

I wanted to buy a casual brown shoe. Nothing too fancy that can be wear without much thought, and I am sick of sneakers. I saw this deal, but maybe they are too formal.

Dunno know, maybe I will buy them and never wear them. But for 15 bucks, who cares right?
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no pic but any yves salomon outerwear worth copping? at a discount btw
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Land's End Duck boots. C/n? They are on sale for $50 bucks and I need some boots for da snow
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Norse project chinos? They are on grailed for $75
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>>10665315
Paul Blart Mall Cop
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>>10665469
c
>>10665410
dnc
>>10665320
feel like if you need to ask about something expensive or designer than you're better off not copping
>>10665315
c if good price
>>10665154
c
bump on
>>10665194
>>10665194
>>10665194
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£95
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>>10665194
$35 is a good deal, cop. just bought the $25 tretorn nylites, excited to get them.
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Which one should I cop?
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>>10663870
Cop. Sick show senpai.
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>>10665495
Cop
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c/n?
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Not sure if it looks really cool or really dumb.
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>>10665565
dawg of course, its LL BEAN nigga

cant go wrong
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Cop or not?

Saw a similar one in a store by the same company and I thought it looked decent, but I'm not too sure
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>>10665514
second
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>>10665572
dumb
>>10665578
not
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Looking for deals on parka's Cop? or not?
also is DrJays a good site to buy from?
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The Great Wave Off Kanegawa on a sweatshirt: nice touch or too tacky?
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How much $$$$
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>>10665624
Who are you replying too?
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>>10665628

sorry that was meant for >>10665613
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>>10665577
>>10665565

any advice on sizing? I usually hover med to large and lean towards large. Obv I want to layer underneath this but I feel like a vest should be snug.
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>>10665634
>>10665624
$72 + $15 shipping, so $87 total.
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>>10665505
thanks, think i will cop
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>>10665582
Well, that makes for two people who said the 2nd and one person who said the 1st. I kinda like the quilted look too though, it's a tough call.
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>>10665653
LL Bean usually fits pretty large. Check their size chart or give them a call/email if you have time

a snug vest be worn if youre using it as a mid layer underneath a shell or blazer or something. but that vest is waxed so I would just use it a top layer.

u feel me?
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>>10665654
n
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>>10665681
Any particular reason?
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>>10665603
So I take it that's a no?
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It looks very fucboi potentially but idk I'm still staring at it considering
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Just got these, Ralph Lauren. From 100€ to 75€. I think it was a good buy. What u think lads?
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>>10665725
how much?
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>>10665725
buy
>>10665726
mistake
>>10665709
just go to gap and get the primaloft parka
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>>10665725
also considering this. I always wear black jeans idk if it'd be too mono mono
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>>10665726
arab core
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>>10665732
$100
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>>10665725
wouldn't wear it if I got that for free and I actually like motorsports
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>>10665740
cop
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>>10665369
yeah thats what i was going at
i dont think you would have to worry to much about outfits
these sit kinda nicely in the area where you can dress them up or dress them down so there's a lot of possibilities and you can probably add these to the majority of your outfits
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>>10665790
Just cop it your poor Zara fuck.
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>>10662328
would you mind sharing a pic with it on? site doesnt have any model pics and shit
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Copped, how'd I do.
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c/n? i mostly wear black skinny chinos so no double denim disaster
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>>10658872
I don't get it. Are these print shitty text shirts supposed to be so bad it's ironic? Like "casually cruel" is such a shitty attempt at edge it's like "hah look at this retarded shirt I'm wearing"? Because even then it's kind of shitty.
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got this for cyber monday
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>>10665572
dumb
>>10665654
this might look goofy irl
>>10666234
that jacket + black slim pants is done to death
>>10665853
i dont like the cuffs but i guess we'll see how it looks on you
requesting for this
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>>10661451
In my country, there's a hard nationalist party that uses these exact colours. I should cop and print "SD" on it to trigger leftists.
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>>10665852
Sorry Im seeing this a bit late, reply if you're still interested and Ill post a pic tomorrow.
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>>10666258

looks like something a cυck would wear

you're a cυck, dude
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>>10666511

I'm interested to see it, please post
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>>10664691
>>10664678
I got the shirts, thanks anons :)
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>>10666523
Aight currently studying for finals so if I don't post it tonight I will tomorrow.
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>>10666258

w2c?
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>>10665726
Muslim skate-core
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>>10662428
Never tried on the kangaroo craftmans but I have the regular ones and they're so gr8

COP
O
P
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Cop?
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First time here to this board.

I'm into the whole rustic look (And before you say anything, I do go outside... camping and occasionally fishing so pls no bully)

How is Carhartts Jackets?
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>>10666803
fuck no
>>10666850
generally regarded as great quality/long-lasting, but the fit may be chunky
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Reebok NPC II?
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>>10659765
christ, you're impressionable
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>>10662385
not him but I think thats
http://ballandchainco.com/collections/knit-sweaters/products/tiger-knit-sweater
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c/n?
they're like £70 if you get it delivered
sale ends today tho
also has anyone used one? the interior is really thin so you can only carry books, laptops, tablets and worksheets. stuff like that
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kinda feeling the white ones with black stripes too
they're like £60~£70 ish
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>>10659062
>tfw
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Which card case should I get?
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coup our nout
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>>10666264
Hampus, gå lägg dig.
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need something to put on my feet that isnt brown boots or white trainers
cop?
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>>10659319
Basic af but inoffensive, do you really need someone else's opinion to cop these??
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>>10666864
cop
>>
https://www.grailed.com/listings/279745-y-3-qasa-racer-low-og

fake?
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>>10667333
real. i know because i own a pair.
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FYI I am a grill and wear black dresses a lot.

>>10667207
Lolno

>>10667267
The pebbled leather is gross imo. Silhouette reminds of Timbs too.

>>10667172
I've seen this kind of jacket on every other guy so far.
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>>10666586
pendleton
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$55

Unfortunately black/beige is sold out
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should I just get black and white instead?
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>this sweater
y/n?
Also, what is it? w2cop?
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>>10667658
sweater is a meme now, unless you want people saying "haha you look like Drake" all the time, then no
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>>10667690
But who makes it?
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>>10667658
>cucckcore sweater

Gstar has a similar one for 150, except it is not a gay color
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>>10666850
try carhartt wip maybe.
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>>10661417
I consider mids much better looking, but yes
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>>10666919

meme backpack go away

dnc
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Cop or not?
Ignore the fat nigga in the picture.
>>
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>>10667530
yes
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>>10667943
No
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Was thinking of copping these with a pair of black skinny jeans, cop or not?
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>>10661417
Definitely cop family
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>>10667704
pretty sure its acne
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>>10661943
fuck me i want their fox jacket and there's only XL left .
>>
>>
Should I cop this jacket?
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>>10667943
>fat
I can't tell if this is sarcasm or not
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>>10659062
go for it but you need to take the fucking "no feels" tag off the bottom with a seam ripper
>>10659170
go for it
>>10667367
no please don't
>>10667945
no, those are cool in concept but the felt is kinda bad and is gonna get fucked up
>>10668138
go for it
>>10668286
yeah
>>10668292
yeah
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>>10668286
Can't find them anywhere. W2C?
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>>10661451
w2c
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>>10666523
>>10665852
>>10661943
This is how a medium fits me, I'm 6,1 135lbs. Sorry for bad lighting and what not. Notice how the sleeve is a bit short.
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>>10664465
>tfw copped last week and should be at my doorstep tomorrow
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Yeah or Nah??
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c/n?
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>>10668651
kind of a bad fit, sleeve too short and length is too long
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>>10668651
>>10669141
yeah I hate le oversized streetwear meme
ordered a small
though I'm only 5'11 so I'm probably still fucked
welp I'll just sell it to fuccboiis if it's really ill fitting
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>>10669113
The pocket zippers are too long. I wish they'd restock their MA-1 crewneck.
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>>10669098
nox1000000
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>>10669160
which one of you keks keeps posting shoes like this in c/n threads? THEY DO NOT LOOK GOOD
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>>10659192
>>10659182
mc ride-core
definitely cop
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Can't decide between Stacy Adams Madisons or just a pair of black suede chelsea boots from ASOS or something.

help
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>>10659561
what are the straps for?
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>>10659597
Where are you buying from? I love this but can't find it anywhere.
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>>10669701
nvm i made a mistake
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>>10660347
https://www.meermin.es/grupoMTO.php?idGrupo=301

Get these instead senpai.
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Thinking of getting this. It's a crewneck sweatshirt but I don't know if it's legit. Can anyone verify?
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Ralph bege corduroy jacket.

I really like it but don't know about the material. And it doesn't have the obnoxious horse logo so it a plus.
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>>10663898
At that price they're going to look awful
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>>10668651
hmm...well thank you for the pic buddy
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>>10669141
>>10670005
>>10669315
I like it and the pic might not do it justice. Was disappointed with the length of the sleeves and the grey lining though
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Fjallraven Skogso jacket

y/n?
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>>10659078
The Olive one is the best one honestly
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>>10668138
yeah i guess
vans make me feel like a 15 year old tho
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>>10663721
w2c pants??
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>>10669341
Cop/n
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How are uniqlo jeans? Can't find 511s in the colour/size combination I want anywhere.
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w2c shoes?
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>>10662836
go for it. looks nice - w2c?
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>>10672660
good but you get what you pay for. sometimes they kinda sit lower in the center in the center of the waist than the sides which is really annoying, and looks awkward, but other than that they're really comfy
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