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Role-Reversal and General Femdom General

>related hentai
>greentext
>monster girls
>general lewdness
>doujinshi recommendations
>anime/manga recommendations
>preferably recommendations that are on-topic
>cuteposting
>vocaroos

>What is Role Reversal?
http://rolereversalreader.tumblr.com/post/108492906077/finished-the-faq-for-relationship-role-reversal

New Map:
https://www.zeemaps.com/map?group=1618907
Old Role Reversal Map:
https://www.zeemaps.com/map?group=1239585#

FetLife Group
https://fetlife.com/groups/121948

irc channel: irc.irchighway.net , #gfd

/rr/ and /gfd/ megapastebins:
http://pastebin.com/7NfGfusP
http://pastebin.com/evbfjazh

New doujin list
http://pastebin.com/BjvGSkMi

GFD masterpost
http://pastebin.com/PNpCd606

GFD discord
https://discord.gg/2vFVcdd

Forum:
http://gfdrr.freeforums.net/
8ch board (allows 3DPD):
http://8ch net/gfd/


International Women's Day Edition
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>>7295800
Already asked in the other thread that popped up, but is there any reason the discord link isn't working?
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So what's /gfd/ doing for International Women's Day? I'll be joining a men's rights protest at my university.
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>>7295984
>So what's /gfd/ doing for International Women's Day?
Nothing. The kind of women who make a huge deal out of it are generally of the "indapenden womyn need no menz" type so men should just leave them to it.
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>>7295984
>I'll be joining a men's rights protest at my university
BASED
Godspeed, anon.
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>>7295984
>>7296012
this is so sad
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>>7295801
>>7295803
Sauce?
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>>7295967
Please respond
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>>7296045
there was a huge shitfest on one of the discord servers last night so i think it got deleted in a rage
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>>7296048
Are you fucking serious? And that was the only one?
I feel like no one on 4chan knows how to deescalate conflict, it's really bothersome.

On another subject, how do people here feel about stuff like pic related? When the boy and girl are in an equal position, or perhaps both subs to a single dom?
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>last thread had everyone getting mad at each other
>about 10 posts in and the hostilities have already begun

If this keeps up, this general may very well end up as the worst threads on this board. I can't speak for every anon, but this topic is close to my heart, so I don't want to see it go down in history as one of the worst places on this site, and I can imagine that there are others here who feel the same way. People will disagree with you, people will even try to bait you, and it's imperative that, if you respond, you do so in such a way that does not encourage further antagonism. It's the antithesis of what gfd/rr is about, so for the health of these threads we should foster a more civil environment. If this topic is something you care about, then I welcome you to join along in trying to make gfd/rr general a better place.

I apologize if it seems like I'm preaching, I tried wording it as best as I could to avoid that. I don't want anyone to feel like I'm making some sort of command, I guess what I'm trying to do is ask for help.
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>>7296100

This shit. If you guys can't see what's happening, take a look at this post. This thread isn't even d related so we're lucky we can be here. This shit is h as hell but here we are on d because d is less aggressive than h. I wish everyone would take a moment and remember, this is d, not h, it's not a place to discuss like men's rights or inequality or SJW, none of that is d. Don't you guys want our thread to be a good thread people can look forward to seeing all day? Let's just have a good time.
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>>7296100
How fucking deluded are you. This already IS the worst general on /d/. It's the worst general on 4chan. We've been saying this for YEARS. Your threads are always like this. Every single one of your threads, especially when you have three or four of them going at once, are like this.

No, this is bait. It has to be. There's no way you could be this fucking dumb. Your heart wouldn't remember to beat if you were this retarded.
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>>7296100
newfag detected
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for that Anon I accidentally inflicted a fetish for Queen/knight / Lady/guardian power dynamic on, went looking through my stuff, and found 2 things that sorta fit the idea (though one image is completely SFW). if anyone else has stuff in this vein, it'd be much appreciated (particularly stuff with the Lady tending to her sub's injuries, and slowly getting more seductive with it as she does.)
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>>7296155
>tfw there is almost no content for your incredibly niche fetish.
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>>7296055
no dude theres like six of them, these guys can't go five minutes without a huge fight and splitting to form a "new" community

everyone on 4chan knows how to de-escalate conflicts, just not these autists

don't compare the rest of the website to the 10-15 retards who compose this shithole of a community
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look on the plus side at least these mongoloids have learned how to post images after their threads got banned for no content for the... third time? forgive me ive lost count
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>>7296145
I can't think of a time where I've seen people complain about these threads, certainly not outside of /d/. However, if this general is already widely regarded as bad, that just changes the goal from "keep it from breaking" to "fix it."
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>>7295803
Sauce, please
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>>7296155
>>7296160
You mean man as protector and woman as lady and nurturer? That's called an ordinary relationship.
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Repost from the last thread. Didn't get many responses because the drama and it got archived almost straight after I posted.

What things do you guys like to be called

My favorites in no particular order:
>Good Boy
>Pet
>Sweetie
>Babe/Baby
>Tiger (an online friend I roleplayed with nicknamed me this)
>Cutie
> Slut/Bitch/Slave (As long as the tone of voice is gentle/seductive/affectionate with intent to show ownership/dominance rather than to degrade or humiliate)

What are your favorites? What would you add to the list?
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I see the first half of this image a lot but never the second half. I love both.
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>>7296447
> Slut/Bitch/Slave (As long as the tone of voice is gentle/seductive/affectionate with intent to show ownership/dominance rather than to degrade or humiliate)
This.
So much this.
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>>7295967
nigga u always asking for that goddamn discord link! This the third /gfd/ thread I've been in with yo ass asking about the damn discord link
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>>7296471
Yeah it's amazing how "You're mine bitch" can sound affectionate in the right context when ordinarily I'd hate it
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>>7296425
>ohh boy here we go again

I'll keep it brief for all of our sake. it comes down to three things that differentiate between a ordinary relationship, and a relationship with a Lady/guardian power dynamic, at least in my estimation.

1.semantics of the Protected/protector relationship;
in a traditional relationship the Protector keeps safe what is "theirs" (the protected), while in a L/g the protector keeps safe the Protected as a matter of subservient loyalty.

2.degree of "protectiveness"; where in trad power dynamics the Protector regards his own life, and well-being as equal that of the protected, L/g subs generally hold the Protected's life above their own, of their own will. (to what degree of course can vary)

3."the reigns of power" sit firmly in the Lady's hands, she is the one to generally make decisions in the relationship (ideally with the guardian's input, but the decisions remain Her's in the end). it goes without saying that generally speaking this is quiet the opposite of a Traditional arrangement.

well... that wasn't as brief I'd though, but i do tend to speak at length when prodded.

to surmise into a humorous TLDR: it's like the relationship between a Liege(Lady), and their vassals, but with more teasing and possible bondage.

>>7296465
never realized there was a second part to it... and I am glad it is now revealed to me. got any more with a similar theme?
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>>7296537
Unfortunately I don't have any more similar pictures. The Google search to get both pics though is "The Shadow Queen and her Wolf"
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>>7296447
as they come to mind:
>Good Boy
>Hun (as in the shortening of Honey)
>The boy (my first girlfriend called me this when talking about me to others some times)
>Pet
>Dork (my second GF and I would do stuff to playfully wind the other up, so this is generally what I would get called if I managed to do so, usually accompanied by a thrown pillow or a sneaky pinch somewhere she knew I'd jump from)
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Here's your knight. somewhat.
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>>7296537
I didn't want to jump into this debate again but damn me I can't resist. The major difference between a Domme/Attack Sub/(or Protective Sub if you prefer) and a traditional relationship is when a guy protects the girl in a traditional relationship it's to defend his claim to her as he sees her as almost "belonging" to him. While a protective sub is protecting her because he "belongs" to her. Like a pet defending its master. It's all about the power dynamic. It's very subtle and nuanced.

Example 1 traditional relationship. Man out with his girl. Guy hits on her won't leave her alone. Guy starts a fight to protect her from the creep. She says thanks and they go home for vanilla sex probably with him in control.

Example 2 Domme out with sub, Domme gets hit on by creepy guy. Guy won't stop. sub doesn't react until told by Domme to stop the creepy guy. Domme gives the all clear and he beats the guy. She calls him a Good Boy for defending her, She takes him home and rewards him with an Bondage session or Pegging or sex with her in control.

The difference is very very subtle but it's there. In the former scenario he's reacting to someone eyeing up "HIS" girl. He's defending what "belongs" to him. While in the latter he's the one that's "Owned" and is defending his mistress out of loyalty (and hopefully love for her) he "belongs" to her.

This dynamic isn't for everyone but it can be part of gfd provided the context of such an occurrence isn't one where she's only using him to be an attack dog rather than showing real love/affection. It's shady ground when it comes to "male disposability" on the one hand I'm inclined to agree it does look like just another woman using a man to take a hit that she doesn't want but on the other hand given the right setting and the right context it can be done in a none abusive way.
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>>7296571
>The boy
>hun Honey

Super cute!
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>>7296597
that was far more Eloquently worded then I managed, and also touched on a few things hadn't given much though of as well. thank you.
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>>7296626
You're welcome (;
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>>7296447
- Good Boy (or just "boy" in general)
- Pet
- Darling
- My dear
- Whore
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>>7296645
>(;
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>>7296597
>>7296537
Allow me to sum up with a picture how much people care about this shit.
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Hey /gfd/ have any of you seen any good male day-collar designs for a non-sissy?
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>>7296537
>1.semantics of the Protected/protector relationship;
>in a traditional relationship the Protector keeps safe what is "theirs" (the protected), while in a L/g the protector keeps safe the Protected as a matter of subservient loyalty.
>2.degree of "protectiveness"; where in trad power dynamics the Protector regards his own life, and well-being as equal that of the protected, L/g subs generally hold the Protected's life above their own, of their own will. (to what degree of course can vary)
>3."the reigns of power" sit firmly in the Lady's hands, she is the one to generally make decisions in the relationship (ideally with the guardian's input, but the decisions remain Her's in the end). it goes without saying that generally speaking this is quiet the opposite of a Traditional arrangement.
In practice, this is *exactly* how traditional relationships work. The only difference is that traditionalists set up a bunch of lies to convince men that they're not being subservient, when in fact, they are. On the other hand, you're just straight up admitting "Yeah, your life is worth less than hers, and that's great! Sure, you'll be expected to suffer death or mutilation for her, but she'll pat your head every now and then! Totally worth it!"
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>>7296693
now that I think on it... not really. what's something you would be looking for in such? I have a couple places I might be able to look...

>>7296697
for some of us, it is worth it. otherwise you'd have no one arguing with you, of course you are welcome to your own opinion either way.
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>>7296537
>>7296597

That was really well said, I'm glad that some people really see what's appealing about an attack dog relationship, and how it differs from the norm.

>>7296697
Using your "red pilled" logic to say that two different things are the exact same is really dumb. That's not how traditional relationships work, and the fact that you think that it is leads me to believe that you don't have a lot of experience with them outside of /pol/.
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>>7296745
>Using your "red pilled" logic to say that two different things are the exact same is really dumb. That's not how traditional relationships work, and the fact that you think that it is leads me to believe that you don't have a lot of experience with them outside of /pol/.
Accusing those who don't like male disposability of being right-wingers. Classic feminist nonsense.
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>>7296745
well... we were managing to keep this civil.
>>7296759
come on guys, we can do better then this. I was kind of trying to bring this conversation to a polite closure with >>7296739

or at the very least contribute art while you attempt to tear each other a new internet butthole.
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>>7296739
Discrete, masculine apperance preferable, and locking. it's okay to have a visible lock but it shouldn't scream "HEY, I'M A PERV WEARING A COLLAR"

Been using a regular collar with a scarf over it, but it's getting a bit warm for that. Considering using a Shemagh over it, but that only goes with certain outfits.

I like this, but it's out of stock:

http://tobehis.com/products/316l-stainless-steel-men-s-male-masculine-slave-submissive-locking-day-collar-bdsm-hypoallergenic-lock-options-tobehis-b648340f-ca7c-4bcc-a4c1-015c63911056
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>>7296858
https://www.etsy.com/ru/listing/160536801/day-collar-sterling-silver-padlock-and

My puppy had been wearing this for almost year and a half... until yesterday. He was shaving and clasp somehow undone itself and padlock went down the drain. He didn't even notice until he was out of the bathroom, and by that time it was obviously gone,

Still very upset about it, cause really I don't know how it could just undo itself, considering nothing like this had ever happened before, and it was worn literally 24|7,
Loved playing with it when we were cuddling. Even just seeing it always made me feel warm and fuzzy inside.

Otherwise it's a very good day collar, small, discreet and quite cute.
A bit downside that it doesn't have a key, but considering how small it is, it's understandable.
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>>7296447
I can typically deal with being called most things ranging from "good boy" to "slut", but as long as she shows ownership or conveys it in how she speaks I'm happy.
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>>7296447
>Good Boy, Pet, Sweetie,Tiger, Cutie
>Slave, not slut [that's for her when we switch] or bitch [2edgy4us]
>Hun
>Loser (This makes my penis the bigger penis)

Obviously missing the ones used when we switch for topic purposes
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Requesting "Levels of Femdom" image. It had like 6 levels, looked like this except ofc no markings
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>>7296021
>>7296221
i think it might be Freezing, but i could be wrong
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>>7296858
hmm... I see >>7296891 beat me with a suggestion, and a very likely better one too.

was gonna suggest you look at some of the SCA (a historical recreation group) merchants who sell chains of Rank, some of them are really quite nice, in particular Crafty Celt does really nice Torcs (http://www.craftycelts.com/Torcs.php) ranging from small subtle ones to large and ostentatious.

now this might not be what your looking for, but it might be something for you and your lady to consider among the other options.
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>>7297021
Etsy actually has a very wide range of padlock day collars available. Though there are usually two problems with them: either padlock is girly looking (heart shaped and what not), or chain looks atrocious (very thick and not subtle at all).

>>7296858
I also noticed that the same seller has this in store
https://www.etsy.com/listing/484576137/bdsm-style-punk-inspired-collar-sterling
which includes an actual padlock with keys. Chain looks quite thick though, and it's a lot more expensive.
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>>7296447
I like:
>Darling
>Little magpie
>Kitten
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>>7296020
Notion seconded.
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>>7296447
I like
>Honey
>Dear
>Babe
>Slut
>Literally anything in the possessive
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>>7296962
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>>7296447
I prefer to be called my name.
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>>7296475
Actually this is the first time I've asked. Several people probably have, but I only just noticed the link in the OP.

So is there gonna be one?
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>>7296506
I need more like this
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>>7296684
sauce?
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>>7296759
>>7296774

Perhaps I was too aggressive, let me rephrase. I get a little defensive hearing everyone say the same thing about attack dogs multiple times a thread. I wasn't trying to accuse you of any sort of political slant, only pointing out that making a blanket statement about traditional relationships isn't really fair. In my and many others' experiences, that's not how traditional relationships work. I sincerely apologize if that's how you've been treated in yours; it's certainly not the norm.

>>7296858
I found this one
Which I thought was awesome, might be up your alley for what you were looking for. You could paint over the "Master" on the lock if you really wanted to, but I don't think anyone would bat an eye, just looks like a cool pendant. I'm especially a fan of it because I do a lot of rough physical activities like Ice Hockey, and I'd want to be able to wear my day collar without it strangling me or banging around while I move.
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when can we just rename this community "shit no one cares about" because thats all that ever seems to get posted
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>>7296447
A good boy is literally the best thing I could ever be called.

As others have said though, as long as the tone and intent is affectionate, even things like slut are sort of endearing.
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>>7297761
No one is forcing you to be here my man. If you're just here for the pictures just look at the pictures and ignore the posts. If you genuinely don't care or want to discuss GFD stuff then I don't know why you're here in the first place.
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the saddest part about this is the mods are deleting individual posts, so that means they looked at this thread and decided not to just delete it

that's like finding out god exists but they just spend all their time doing sudoku puzzles
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>>7297771
>If you're just here for the pictures just look at the pictures

there's hardly any /d/ worthy pictures, that's the problem. these threads follow a downward trend posting less and less relevant images per thread until they get banned for a few weeks, they come back, have 1-2 good threads, and then the cycle begins again.
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>>7297775
I mean, there are a ton of other active threads right now, it's not like /d/ moves particularly slow. You have plenty of other choices if you don't care for this thread. I think that people just congregate here because this is the most accessible /gfd/ 'community' there is. People like to talk about it with others who share a really fringe interest, not to mention a distinct lack of good gfd content that's not more than implied, if you know what I mean.
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>>7297781
this is hardly the most accessible gentle femdom community, and this is probably one of the smallest i know of
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>>7297785
As someone relatively new to this, this is the only community I've found, and the only other ones I was made aware of in the last thread were infinitechans and Reddit's, both of which move incredibly slow and are smaller than this one. If you know of better ones, by all means please share.
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>>7297791
This is the best community and these threads have more pics than most other generals. We just have couple of extremely vocal autists here who complain about text posts and troll new anons like you.
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>>7297798
anyone with reasonably good vision, or capable of counting, knows this isn't true

why don't you link to any other general on this board right now which is as bad as the last /gfd/ thread was? go ahead, i'd love to see your proof
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>>7297798
>the best community
The discord communities are better than this community, and they're bad. Therefore this community is worse than a bad community.

>pic ratio in these threads is good
This has been disproven every single time the topic comes up. I mean this current thread has a pretty poor image ratio and compared to the last few threads it's way better. I'm fairly sure theres three or four screencaps floating around just based on this topic.

>a couple of extremely vocal autists
This entire community is vocal autists. Don't kid yourself.

>complain about text posts
>This is an imageboard, not a text board. Telling people to do what they're supposed to do isn't complaining, it's pointing out that they're doing something wrong.

>troll new anons
No one's trying to troll new anons to my knowledge, just trying to improve a cancerous part of /d/ by providing not just problems but also solutions.
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>>7297820
Fetish-related discussion and stories are allowed, other generals have them too. We can't always reach image limit with a fetish that doesn't get new pics every day.
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>>7297901
maybe if your fetish doesnt have any new content... stop making threads? if you have nothing new to share, why make a thread on an imageboard?
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Can I keep on posting without contributing to this discussion?
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>>7297908
If you don't like fetish discussion you should leave instead of trying to stop others from having a discussion.
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there's so much shota in these threads how are they not banned again yet
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>>7297929
To be fair, discussion without content is what started this problem in the first place years ago.
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>>7296581
>femdom with a dominant woman controlling a subservient woman as well as a subservient man

Is this a thing? Is there more of it?
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>>7297965
I think that's about the only picture ricegnat had to offer on it.
I don't think it has a special name but it def. is also really exciting for me aswell.
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>>7296447
>What things do you guys like to be called
Anything goes as long as it's not meant to be insulting.
>> Slut/Bitch/Slave (As long as the tone of voice is gentle/seductive/affectionate with intent to show ownership/dominance rather than to degrade or humiliate)
L-lewd
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>>7296447
I like petnames with certain repeating sounds for some reason. A nice one I remember hearing was snugglebunny. I also enjoy nicknames - I never go by a nickname, so the use of it is a bit more intimate and specific.
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I've read too many gfd stories with supernatural themes. (Demon girls, Succubi, Witches/Psychics etc) I think I've ruined myself for real life women .
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In the last thread an Anon recommended the Daniel Faust book series (which was amazing BTW thanks anon) but if anyone is looking for something with a similar theme but drastically more explicit I'd recommend a series called The Succubus' Sub
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>>7297255
Senpai kun, can I get a source for the image plox
:3
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>>7298624
Fuck that hits close to home. Nothing like giving yourself a fetish that's not only unrealistic, but completely fucking impossible
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>>7296537
>in a traditional relationship the Protector keeps safe what is "theirs"
In 1955 maybe. Today it's incredibly taboo to think that a woman is "yours", men take up protecting their girlfriend simply because society says that's what you have to do. Men are expected to put women before themselves, we see this all the time.
>while in a L/g the protector keeps safe the Protected as a matter of subservient loyalty.
Again, this ties in with society's idea that men are disposable, and that women are inherently more important.
>in trad power dynamics the Protector regards his own life, and well-being as equal that of the protected
Read above. Only before the modern era would a man not have to put himself below a woman to keep her.
>"the reigns of power" sit firmly in the Lady's hands
This is also socially acceptable. If some creep came up to harass a woman and she liked the attention, she would be angry at her boyfriend for "making a scene" by "defending her". Not to mention all the other facets of mainstream relationships in which men are basically servants.
>TLDR: it's like the relationship between a Liege(Lady), and their vassals,
This is exactly how mainstream relationships are. You are supposed to see her as your queen, but make everybody else your serf. Just because when they get home and she pats his head a few times doesn't mean it's gfd/rr.
I just want to say that I don't think nobody can be happy in this type of relationship, or that this type of relationship doesn't exist(the opposite, actually); I'm just saying that it's entirely normal to be in one like this, and it doesn't really fit with gfd/rr(specifically the rr part).
GFD/RR is about reversing society's roles, things like giving men a basic amount a value as a human, having women go after men, letting men be cute(even if physically masculine) or having less responsibilities, but not seeing men as lapdogs for you to take advantage of, which is what an "attack dog relationship" does.
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>>7299008

man it's so fucking cute when you see someone who's this much of a pansy. I hope you're a guy. Are you a guy? fuck it gets me hot when I see a boy who willingly gives up traditionally masculine power (cause they instinctively know it's not right for them) and start drifting toward feminine empowerment movements instead. Like, that's the only accessible way you know to be valued, is to be a cherished pet rather than the head of the house. Fuck. I wish I could fuck you.
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>>7299008
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>>7297246
Is it wrong to say you get a serious hard-on from all the level 1 items because of how safe I'd feel?
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>>7298697
>The Succubus' Sub
Good premise, but I'm not into crossdressing or feminization, and that story is full of both.
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>>7299008
your welcome to your opinion anon, we have this argument every time it get brought up, and your already late for it anyway.

as for your arguments, two things:
1.every relationship I've been (all of which have been traditional) has been more a matter of two relative equals working together. (this mean that one of the two of use have been in highly dysfunctional relationships...)

2. it's obvious you have a heavy focus on RR as the main part of your personal interpretation of this fetish. this is less so for myself, where I have a focus more on the GFD aspects with a emphasis on more overt dominance then what you consider "normal".

I don't really see this as lessening my human value, namely because I would choose this. this is not something I think anyone should enter into lightly, from either side.

both parties are effectively party to an oath of fealty, with obligation flowing both ways.

I would continue this tirade, but I've got to work in the morning.

so I'll cap off with this; this fetish is very vague, and open to interpretation at the best of times, we all have parts that we focus on more then others, can't we just agree to disagree, and say "hey anon, that's not really how I intrepid it, but you do you." then maybe ask a few questions, politely make suggestions, and beat it to pictures of women pinning down men and doing cute/sexy things to them.
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>>7299093
>1.every relationship I've been (all of which have been traditional) has been more a matter of two relative equals working together.
If your relationships are anything like what you've described, then that's pretty contradictory. You earlier describe a L/g relationship as a man being the protector, being entirely subservient, and the territory that comes with that is being the only one with a job, having to initiate sex, and more from the pandora's box it is.
>I have a focus more on the GFD aspects with a emphasis on more overt dominance then what you consider "normal".
Though the line between GFD and FD is a bit blurred, I would define GFD as FD with a more loving atmosphere; where the woman doms not from disgust or not caring, but because she loves the sub. Taking advantage of a sub and making him do work for you is not loving, so a L/g relationship would most likely fit more with harsh femdom rather then gfd.
>both parties are effectively party to an oath of fealty, with obligation flowing both ways.
I don't know why you act as if a L/g relationship is a two way street when the Lady clearly doesn't care about the guardian. You describe a guardian being entirely subserviant to the Lady, and now you're saying it goes both ways?
>can't we just agree to disagree, and say "hey anon, that's not really how I intrepid it, but you do you."
Though /d/ should be more of a place of sharing images and not talking, I think, for lack of a better forum, discussions like these are important for remembering who we are. If two gay men with an equal power balance started talking about themselves and posting porn they like here, we can't just say "guess that's how you want it!" and let them be, because it's clearly not relevant to this thread. Though that example is more obviously not GFD/RR, it's still important to discuss what's acceptable to post.
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>>7298819
>implying monster girls aren't real
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>>7299153
They do exist! They live far down in the deep ocean caves and if they were brought to the surface they would deform into unrecognizable blobs and would also probably act like raccoons.
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>>7299008
>>7299124
Have you ever even been in relationship?
Do you have any actual experience with what are you talking about?

What would be your actual expectations about your position and role in GFD relationship like?

'cause it seems you have this skewered idea about how mainstream relationships work like, and it's about woman having all the power, little responsibilities and man having to cater to her every whim 'cause that's what society expects him to do?

>Not to mention all the other facets of mainstream relationships in which men are basically servants.
>Men are expected to put women before themselves, we see this all the time.
>This is exactly how mainstream relationships are. You are supposed to see her as your queen, but make everybody else your serf.
>Only before the modern era would a man not have to put himself below a woman to keep her.
>GFD/RR is about reversing society's roles

And since you're talking about GFD\RR being about reversing those roles... is this what you want for yourself?
I.e. taking in account your actual quotes from above:
>woman being your servant
>being seen as a King in relationship
>woman putting herself below you to keep you

So this is different from ultimate power male dom fantasy how?
Except for the sex part, of course, I guess.
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>>7298624
>>7298819
I've been obsessed with succubi for quite a long time. Not only are they dominant and supernaturally powerful, but they're pretty much always described as having a variety of sexual powers (giving erections/orgasms at will, keeping you hard no matter how many times you cum, enhancing pleasure, increasing how much cum you shoot, making you uncontrollably lustful at any time).

I think I'd be a very good candidate to be a succubus' slave. I'm good-looking (though a bit out of shape at the moment, but I could easily fix that in a month or two if I had something to motivate me out of my depression). I'm a sub, and willing to be obedient to the right woman. I'm obsessed with sex, and I feel a need to make up for deprivation and lost time, so I'd be very willing to let her make me into a sex-crazed pet and let her take me whenever she wants. I'm not particularly ambitious or extroverted, so I won't complain about being kept at home and not being allowed to go out and do stuff, nor will I mind having to keep a low profile so that I don't accidentally reveal her true nature somehow. I don't have any real attachments, so no one will miss me if I drop off the face of the earth to become her property.

So, uh, if any succubi are reading this, come here and claim me I guess. You may have to basically rape me a few times before I can let go of my self-loathing and actually accept love and affection, but I doubt you'd have a problem with that.
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>>7299153
>>7298624

Relevant
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>>7297246
Wow...whenever I imagined a list like this I always thought I'd be somewhere near the lower levels, not most of the way through level 6.
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>>7296693
Quick related question.
My sub has been wearing a necklace with my name written in it as day collar and our social circles don't mind it, but we are about to move.
Does it look to obvious? Should I gift him a new one?
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>>7299229
It's hard to say without seeing the actual necklace, but it sounds to me like it's fine. I don't think anyone would bat an eye over a necklace with an SO's name on it. I doubt anyone would ever guess it's being used as a day collar.
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>>7299212
Nice tone overall, though I'm not a fan of the implied chastity cage and buttplug. I'm not a fan of things going into my ass, and my ideal succubus mistress would *never* make me wear any kind of chastity device. In fact, she probably wouldn't want me to wear anything at all.
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>>7299048
Shame on you, every one of those is suppose to have the song title.
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>>7297965
I'm sure it's a thing, but I don't know if there's a term for it or what you can search for to find it. It's definitely really fucking hot, though. Lately I've been imagining a bisexual businesswoman domme in her mid/late thirties who keeps me and a girl as her pets, and proudly walks out in public with one of us on each of her arms.
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>>7296021
Source of the first is https://e-hentai.org/g/968853/8964c8e14f/
But I don't know what the second is.
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>>7299176
I see what you're getting at and I admit I messed up my words a bit.
>And since you're talking about GFD\RR being about reversing those roles... is this what you want for yourself?
When I said GFD being about reversing society's roles, I admit I didn't stop to think that that would be saying GFD is basically maledom. I think there's a very big difference between GFD and RR to the point where it's sorta weird they get grouped into the same thread.
I suppose I think RR, not GFD, would be maledom in a couple ways, as it gives the man inherent value and the woman only potential value; see the attached image, from a RR doujin. The gender roles are reversed, but the man is "still" taking charge; The man decides if they have sex, and the woman has to convince him to let her(in that doujin, she pays him).
After a bit of thought, I think GFD would be a bit of a mix between RR and normal relationships, resulting in, the man having value given to him, but not because he could prove he has value by some feat or measure of success, or because the roles have been completely reversed, but because the woman loves him for him, resulting in a more gentle version of the femdom relationship that is deemed normal.
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>>7299176
I love girls that look like that, they seem like they could really love a guy
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>>7299308
You haven't answered the rest of my questions.
I'm asking about what you want and what you expect.

My point is, judging on your rants about value and success, you have barely any idea how it actually works in real world, between most of the couples that are together because they have feelings for each other.

Based on your views, all of the relationships, "mainstream" or RR, are practically one-sided: someone in them has to have more value over the other.

But that's not how real world works when feelings are involved.

You put your partners needs over yours because you care about their well-being, not because you have to or someone else will and snatch them away, or because they are more valuable than you and you have to "pay" for the difference.
Because you love them, and you want to make them happy.
And if they love you back, their mindset is the same.

It's not about one partner giving with the other taking.
It's about mutually taking care of each other, because each of you cares more about the other than yourself.

And people can show their care in different ways, and sometimes even the same ways can be different depending on how parties feel about it.

For example: woman makes a dinner for her man.
It could happen in traditional relationship cause it's viewed as woman's responsibility.
It could happen in GFD relationship cause she's taking care of her boy in motherly way, making sure he's well fed and eating healthy.
It could happen in equal relationship, simply because both partners agreed to it due to whatever reasons: woman cooks, man cleans up afterwards.

The way you view relationships is just sad, there's no love in that.
Only value, gains and power, a selfish exchange and hoping that if you become more desirable and in demand by default, you can put less work in relationship just due to your market value.
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>>7299350
I think the conversation has moved past if a certain dynamic is gfd or not to my personal life story, and I doubt that's relevant to this thread, and I don't understand why you bring it up.
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>>7299386
Because you're trying to set standards on what GFD/RR is and what is not, based on comparing them to "mainstream" relationship.

And if you do that, while lacking any real experience with both or just any relationship in general (which is, to be honest, is fairly obvious), undermines your credibility somewhat 'cause you're basing your standards on false preconceptions that have little to do with reality.

Not to say you can't talk about it, but you seem to be trying to dictate what gfd and rr is with it, and that doesn't seem right to me.
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>>7299395
Oh, so you're not actually discussing the subject, you're just calling me a virgin on an anonymous image board, cool
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>>7299249
As someone who's Miss has been actively trying to stretch my ass so she can peg me comfortably, I'm gonna have to disagree with you on the plug senpai-a-lam.

Provided you start with a small one and work your way up, plugs feel fucking amazing, especially if you're up and walking around. On stairs they're downright heavenly.
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>>7299408
TIL: we're using senpai for f-a-m now
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>>7298624
I fell rather sad that I've only seen one story to that series. It must be under a pretty secure paywall.

(Nothing wrong with gfd-futa edition)
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>>7299431
hot desu.
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>>7299078
True. I sort of skipped the feminization/cross dressing parts.
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>>7299406
No one said anything about your virginity. In fact, it's irrelevant. Having sex nowadays doesn't equal being in relationship,
When I was talking about your lack of experience, I didn't mean sexual one.

And that lack of experience impairs your judgement, as your generalizations about "mainstream" relationship show.
There's certain unfairness to it, considering you want the reverse of it.

And I don't think it should define how gfd and rr should be and set the standard for it. Neither the contents of the thread should be censored in accordance with it.
It's very narrow and selfish viewpoint 'cause in the end if you view "mainstream" relationship to be unfair, bad and unjust, why would reverse of it be any better?
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>>7296597
I thought this post was a decent end to the debate. Why are we reopening old wounds?
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Question that I posted previous thread:

To any and all of you femanons and dominant women around. How do you like your submissive men and or cutie boys?

Do ya give them cute nicknames and especially give them sweet baby-like talk and such?
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>>7299538
There aren't any femanons here, you're just encouraging trolls and catfishers
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>>7299507
I'm not the guy you're replying to, but I don't think a lack of experience means you don't understand how relationships work. That's like saying that a doctor can't possibly understand what cancer is, because he's never had it.
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Less Debating. Moar gfd Succubi
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>>7299564
In this particular case it does. The way he portraits mainstream relationships has very little to do with how they work in reality between normal decent people.

If he had engaged in some or actually interacted with couples, he'd see that reality is much more multi-faceted.

True, there are relationships where one person exploits the other just because they can, but taking the worst example and making it "that's how mainstream (i.e. most common) relationships are, guys" is plain ridiculous.

>That's like saying that a doctor can't possibly understand what cancer is, because he's never had it.

Again, bad analogy. Doctors have opportunity to actually study cancer closely, using credible sources and actual practice.
Reading redpill theories at home alone doesn't even come close to help understanding how actual relationships work.
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>>7299538
I had fallen for mine because he was adorably shy, inexperienced, easily embarrassed, even innocent in some way. He had gone through some pretty tough times in his life, yet he didn't get bitter or entitled. Made me want to protect him and take care of him.

>Do ya give them cute nicknames and especially give them sweet baby-like talk and such?

Absolutely. I mostly call him "puppy", sometimes "sweetie" or "honey".
I do baby him when we're cuddling and he has his face buried in my chest, like with the whole talking to him in third person jazz, calling him my cute little boy and my good boy.
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>>7299691
Shut up Benji
Nobody believes you're a girl
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>>7299274
>>7299048
Found it.
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>>7299510
we're all probably closet Masochists...

>>7299622
could we make it Monstergirl GFD in general?
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>>7300235
I have no objections to monstergirl gfd. I would in fact welcome it. Still see Succubi as the best though
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>>7299179
In the unlikely event that a succubus does take you under her wing. Put in a good word for me and ask any one of her succubi friends to pay me a visit.
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>>7300286
Calm your boy tits. I'll start posting moar images.
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>>7300303
Why bother. Some reactional autist is going to fall for bait and tank the thread by sperging out, our threads are going to get deleted again, and we'll have to go to dubschan like everyone else did.
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>>7296586
I always imagined Tryndamere activating his Undying Rage to last 5 more seconds before climaxing, bringing his opponent down with him with the extra time.
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>>7300302
>In the unlikely event that a succubus does take you under her wing.
I hope by that you mean "I don't think it's likely that succubi exist" instead of "I don't think a succubus would want you."
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>>7300315
You're right I certainly did mean the former. The latter didn't even cross my mind.
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All the imaginary internet points will go to the anon who can find a better gfd succubi image than this.
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>>7300330
Wot in low fucking res
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>>7300405
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>>7299538
Is there a source available for this? I'd like to see if there's a comic or series about it.
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>>7300332
wot in resolution
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>>7299176
Wow that pic's gorgeous. Source, please?
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>>7298599
she looks like hillary with long hair.
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>>7296162
wish i could read this fucking gook chicken scratch
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>>7299406
sauce
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>>7299406
sauce?
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>>7300619
>>7300659
https://nhentai.net/g/168620/
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>>7299124
god please give sauce
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>>7299538
I like mine inexperienced, and willing to serve. If they blush easily and start stuttering that's great too. My boyfriend is like that, plus being a brat, so he gets punished sometimes.

I'll call him darling, sweetheart, and a cutesy version of his name.

He's very new to the femdom thing, I was wondering if you anons have any ideas for introducing him? He likes face sitting, but I don't know if I should bring up the idea of collars or restraints yet.
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>>7300688
Thanks, I didn't know myself.
>>7300724
https://luscious.net/c/hentai_manga/pictures/album/yonimo-h-na-toshi-densetsu-ladies_259488/page/1/
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>>7300688
>NTR
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>>7296447
She calls me her little rabbit.
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Just checked out the /gfd/ map and literally half the female markers are males.
>want to contact someone but not sure if actually grill
>probably a waste of time anyway
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>>7296447
i get called puppy
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I have questions about what everyone does.

For Submissives
https://strawpoll.com/rww813s

For Dommes
https://strawpoll.com/ecsag9d
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>>7300319
Just wanted to make sure. This is 4chan, after all.
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>>7301130
I answered truthfully, but I get the feeling a lot of people won't. I don't think NEETS who still live with their parents are going to really want to make that known, especially when subs have often been criticized here for just "not wanting responsibility" as opposed to other reasons.
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>>7300326
How about this one?
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>>7301141
Or this.
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>>7301142
Or this.
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>>7301141
Post moar plox
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>>7296447
One of my favorites is "little prince"
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>>7301218
"Prince" That definitely is going on the list

>>7301143
You win.

>>7301140
I answered with a partial truth. I've just been offered a graduate scheme. The first 7 weeks are unpaid training if I make it through without a problem they'll put me on a 2 year contract paying average graduate wage (18-21k in my country)
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>>7296425
a very niche fetish indeed
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This is what I want....this is what I need
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>general femdom
stop
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Anyone want to write a Prince of Persia gfd fabric? I remember seeing this cutscene in the video game as a kid and feeling *things*
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>>7301982
Fanfic* I meant fanfic bloody auto correct.
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>>7301130
>employed (high paying)

oh yeah thats believable
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>>7302019
58k?
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>>7302108
thats not high paying
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>>7302019
$102k?
I still dont have my own house yet. I love eating out too much
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If you liked Daniel Faust, you might also like:

Fred the Vampire Accountant

It's about Fred.... the vampire accountant...


Generation V (Which you shouldn't judge by the cover or blurb. It's very good)
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“I’m a little damaged,” I told her.

“Injured,” she said. “Not damaged.”

“You keep forgetting a very important rule Daniel. Or perhaps I haven’t made it clear to you, which is my fault, but I’ll expect you to remember it from now on.”'

I looked into her eyes. “What’s that?”

One of her fingernails brushed my left wrist. Tracing the burn, like following a river on a map of hell, with a feather-light touch.

“Nobody is allowed to hurt you,” Caitlin said softly, “except for me.”
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>>7301130
High paying doms...What do you do for a living?
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>>7302282
Stop taunting subby Jews.
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>>7302019
In the top 5%, does that qualify?

>>7302195
Depends entirely on their area if that's high paying or not. I'd rather take 58k in some small flyover town or developing nation than 158k in SF.
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>>7302659
why did every adult chick in that game have to be so ugly besides the chicken lady and adult Zelda? and they brought back those fuck-ugly fairies in BotW.
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>>7302713
A-are you a businesslady?
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>>7302846
No
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>>7302749
Redoing the Gerudo though, I'm here for it. I'd love to stick my dick on my dick on those rock hard abs
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>>7297965
Thread over in aco has one. Lookup equal treatment.
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>>7302521
I melted when I read this bit. I also melted every time she called him "Pet"
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Why has no one posted pictures of them? They're perfect for this no?
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>>7302749
Thank feminists for that
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>>7302521
Where's this from?
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I decided to read a Life and Death online, that gender flipped Twilight book. Has some role reversed femdom in it.
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>>7303283
The Daniel Faust book series.
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Should I make a marker on the map, has anyone had actual success in getting contacted?

Everything near my city's either guy markers or guys with girl markers
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>>7303435
Thanks.
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>>7303473
Not unless you make a completely new map. The current one's markers are messed up.
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>>7303042
I have no idea what the game is about and probably will never get to play it, but damn, the things i'd do to that boy...
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>>7303483
That would be the fourth map.
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>we are a sexual dimorphic species and the females are weaker

Why even Live?
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>>7296447
Good boy
Sweetie
Princess (a female friend of mine calls me this because I can take too long getting ready but it kinda makes me melt)
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Can we put 'gentle femdom' back in the OP
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>>7302521
>>7303041
>>7303435
Are these books overtly gfd? I've been looking for a series like that since before gfd was a thing
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>>7303612
Yes Sexual dimorphism means a woman at her peak strength will always be weaker than a man at his peak strength. However Sexual dimorphism doesn't mean every man is stronger than every woman it only means that every man (barring anyone with significant disabilities or handicaps) has the potential to be stronger than every woman. e.g A woman who goes gym everyday and weight lifts will probably be stronger than the average Joe who's exercise regime consist only of jogging once a week to get the doctor to stop threatening him with an early grave.

>>7303658
I've fapped to a few stories where the sub guy is addressed with feminine terms but I'm not into feminization or sissification at all. It's strange.
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>>7303672
It's not erotica (though it does have a sprinkle of lewdness throughout) however from the moment he meets her it's clear that she's the "alpha". She calls him "Pet" a lot and makes most the decisions when they're together. The dominant affection is overt but there's nothing really explicit. It's about as close to gfd as a mainstream fiction book can get.
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>>7301141
>>7301142
>>7301143
>checks the tumblr where these drawing came from
>they're from a blog dedicated in shipping Maleficent with her familiar; Daviel
>As in the shitty 2014 Maleficent movie where they depict her as a woobie-villain because she's a womyn who dindu anythung wrong
>try browsing the blog's in hopes of finding other femdom lewds
>nope.avi just Maleficent being shipped with her familiar

I'm deeply disturbed and I cannot believe I was THIS close to fapping to those images. Thinking its a cutie lucky guy with a succubus lover.

>trustyservant.tumblr.com
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>>7303673
I'm not into feminization or sissification either. I guess it's because I'm more of a scruffy looking dude and being called princess is such a contrast
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>>7303683
That sounds about what I want. I didn't really want anything too lewd just a sweet relationship where the woman is obviously the dominant one in the relationship
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>>7303683
>>7303693

>Far, far too many BDSM allusions to be a coincidence. That and the fact that Caitlin and Emma are both sexually dominant, plus Naavarasi trying to put a slave collar around Daniel's throat...

Sounds like my kind of book
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>>7303685
Yeah I was reading one guys post on social media where he was saying that his girlfriend was on top fucking him and she was being rough with him (biting his neck and stuff) then before he came she said "Good Girl" he was like "Wut" all confused. she grabbed him by his hair pulled his head back said "You heard. Good girl" and bit his neck again just before he came. He said it was the best orgasm ever. Whether it's true or not I don't know and I don't care. All I know is that after reading that post I was super turned on. ....and that's how I realized that despite my extreme dislike of feminization or sissification I actually don't mind feminine terms being used to refer to me in certain contexts.
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>>7303702
That part with the collar and Naavarasi had me feeling so many *things* I really hope Caitlin gets Daniel a Collar in the next book. I loved how she took him shopping and chose all his clothes. I laughed out loud when he asked the price and they all just gave him a stern look in silence to shut him up....
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>>7303702
Also the part where Jennifer and Caitlin are talking and he's like "What you whispering about" and they're like "Not you though we can talk about you if you want" and they start embarrassing him by talking about his reactions during sex.
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>>7303713
>>7303720
>>7303720
Well I'm picking this up
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How far you'd sexually go with another male sub if domme ordered you to do it?
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>>7303761
Books* by Craig Schaefer

The name of them in order:

The Long Way Down
The White Gold Score
Redemption Song
The Living End
A Plain Dealing Villain
The Killing Floor Blues
The Castle Doctrine

You'll have to be patient with it though. The books are first and foremost "magic detective" type stories with Daniel being the "magical detective" So most of the stories are dedicated to the plot but the gfd elements are sprinkled throughout and become more frequent and more overt as the series continues and are well worth waiting for.
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>>7303787
I enjoy urban fantasy stuff like Garret PI so that combined with gfd makes it sound like my cup of tea
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>>7303787
Also the next book is set for release this year

>>7303784
I don't know I couldn't bring myself to do any touching myself but if she put my hand in hers and made me touch him then maybe I'd be OK. As long as she was the direct cause of the contact. Not into cuckoldry though. I'm a jealous sub.
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>>7303802
Wanting monogamy isn't jealousy
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>>7303807
True.

http://craigschaeferbooks.com/blog/2017/3/10/and-another-the-end-is-written Craig Schaefer said on his blog the final book is complete. Not sure whether to be sad or happy.
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>>7303784
Depends. Am I getting paid?
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>>7303823
How far with pay and how far without?
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>>7303963
If that thing on the left is a seppuku sword, then the woman beat him and then when he tried to commit honourable nip nong seppuku she raped him.
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>>7303813
It's not the final book. He's just finished the seventh one.

I think he said he's planned out 25 or so.
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>>7304006
Oh right. Yeah just checked the blog post again. Seems I read it wrong.
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>>7303683
>>7303672

The main character Daniel, is a down-on-his-luck magician. He's not particularly special, and has a pretty tragic backstory. He tries his best to make a living for himself though, which means sometimes he's on the streets, busking for cash.

Anyways, on the side, he also accepts random jobs, and in one of them, he “saves” a succubus called Caitlin, who’s replete with all the succubus tropes.

She is impossibly beautiful, can seduce anyone into becoming her mindless slave, and is strong enough that she could probably kill Daniel with an untoward glare.

But she doesn’t, and the rest of the series is really just about them falling in love with each other.

Honestly, I’ve watched a lot of anime, and I’ve never had a waifu, but Caitlin is my waifu.

"Being with Caitlin felt…natural, in a way I couldn’t find words for. Like her hand was made to fit in mine."
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>meet a handsome as hell boy at college in one of my classes
>long, well kept hair and glasses (oh shit my fetish
>initiate flirting, leads to fucking when I initiate it
>both of us generally open to whatever, very switchy from my reading
>around my height and weight, i could easily pick him up/move him around/etc
>he has admitted to me he had a dream where I roughed him up a little, tied him up and teased him
>we somehow stumbled onto the topic of pegging and he's not totally against it, or at least willing to try it /with me/
>made a joke while petting his dog and saying the dog is a good boy, to petting his hair and saying he's a good boy
>got a chuckle and small smile
>he regularly offers to cook for the both of us
>is vocal in bed, even more so if I prod him about it
>enjoys eating pussy more than I enjoy being eaten out (which is a lot) i'm awestruck

Oh gods I have been blessed how do I not fuck this up or be too clingy right away, this has only been going on for like a month and I am completely infatuated. Wish me luck /gfd/
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>>7304400
You lucky gal!
Treasure him, guys like that are rare diamonds.

As for pegging, I'd advise starting with light buttplay and maybe getting a specifically designed for that toy like aneros. It's less scary for beginners, and very effective in getting them addicted to the feeling.
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>>7304445
Yeah I have absolutely made it clear to him that while I would love to, I by no means want to push him or anything, it's more of a bucket list thing for me not a direct request for him , you know. I just want to make sure he's comfortable and enjoying himself.

I just want to play with his hair and watch him nap in my lap and also fuck his brains out.

I kind of have to ignore him while we're in class together.
He blushes so easily. Gets hard so quickly because of me. He leaks so much precum.

He's so fucking perfect, honestly.
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> Slut/Bitch/Slave (As long as the tone of voice is gentle/seductive/affectionate with intent to show ownership/dominance rather than to degrade or humiliate)
Fuckin SLAAAVES GET YOUR ASS BACK HERE
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>>7304495
Communication is important. I feel like when he told you that dream, that was pretty much him giving you green light. He might be wanting the same things, just being shy about it.

>I kind of have to ignore him while we're in class together.
>He blushes so easily. Gets hard so quickly because of me. He leaks so much precum.

How do you even resist the temptation? I'd take advantage of it whenever I can if I were you (obviously, within safe limits).

'cause my boy started out the same way, but eventually he had gotten used to me and is more comfortable around me so he doesn't get riled up as easily anymore (not to say I don't like the challenge).
Aaah, but I will always remember those times fondly when just hearing my voice was enough to set him off.
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>>7296891
This is a bit late, but you should see if you can open the drain and get it out. Almost every drain in the bathroom is going to have a U-bend at the bottom, to keep sewer gasses from coming up and stinking up your house. A small silver lock would just get stuck there.
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>>7304574
I live in an apartment building so I'm not even sure I can access it.. It's been washed away by now, I'm sure of it. Nothing I can do about it now. Thanks anyway!

Going to order a new lock for his Birthday (which is this month).
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>>7303784

Pretty far. I'm pretty heteroflexible so in the right situation with the right domme I'd go for a lot of things. Has only happened once so far though and I don't actively seek it out. Monogomous is more fun to me.
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I found out about gfd from this hentai: https://nhentai.net/g/153643/

Still my favorite, and I hope you guys enjoy it too. The artist made a few more and there is even a real on-going manga (same artist) for this series. Check out the hentai and the manga ^^
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>>7303483
Please I just want someone to make everything okay again

[spoiler]In Toronto[/spoiler]
[spoiler]Do spoiler tags work on /d/?[/spoiler]
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>>7304663
I guess not. Curse the fates!
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>>7304495
>I just want to play with his hair and watch him nap in my lap and also fuck his brains out.

So jealous of him rn.
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>>7304400
>>7304495
>>7304557
>>7299691
I hate that this thread exists sometimes. Maybe if I had never seen this thread I wouldn't know how much I want this kind of relationship unless I happened to stumble across one myself. Instead I'm left longing for something I'm not I would ever actually encounter normally. It's become an obsession. I think about this shit everyday. What do I do about this? Is there a reasonable way to attract these types of women besides those retarded diet infographs? Quite frankly, I'm not totally convinced the femboy look actually attracts more gfd. Maybe I should be straightforward and add "looking for dominant girl" to my Tinder bio? Seems kind of risky because it could come off as creepy and will probably scare normal girls away. It would also be cringy. I wouldn't want any of my friends reading my profile if it had that shit written on it.

I need to experience the shit I see/read in this thread for myself. Maybe I'll find it's not actually that great or whatever, but at least I'll know, and then I can move on with my life.
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>>7304764
>add "looking for dominant girl" to my tinder bio

Careful if you're into gfd and write that you might end up attracting the non-gentle kind of domme.
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>>7304764
I understand your frustration. I come from an ethnicity and strict religious/cultural background that is very puritanical. (no wanking, no dating, no sex before marriage, men are meant to be dominant, women's job is to obey men, no marrying outside this culture) For me to have a gfd kind of relationship I'd have to severely disappoint every single family member I've ever loved by getting with a girl from a different cultural background since Dominant girls are nonexistent when it comes to girls who are from the same ethnicity/culture as me.
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>>7304766
This is true, you'd definitely have to shift through some shit. I'm down for a lot of weird shit, but I draw the line at things that cause pain, things that smell bad, and humiliation. You'd also have to deal with girls that just want to control you. Not about to have someone tell me who my friends can and can't be or where I can and can't go.

That being said, I'm more than willing to put the work in if I'm getting results. If I'm constantly being hit up by doms I have to turn down, that's an alright place to be at. I'm more worried I just wouldn't get many matches. There are probably way more sub guys than dom girls.
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I've been going out with a VERY /gfd/ girl for about 5 months now. Would anyone be interested in a couple greentext posts?
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>>7304778
Yes. Don't tell useless details, just tell the cute stuff she does to you.
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>>7304784
>meet in a college class
>im an extrovert so i start putting the moves out
>turns out we have simmilar friends, i just never met her before
>i really am interested in this girl. She's shy but we both end up daring eachother to do dumb shit
>like doing the ol' nazi salute during a football game's national anthem.
>that sorta thing
>friends that are a couple are going to go to a big party, they figure to invite both of us
>tell friends i like her, and they immidiately tell her
>fuckmeright?
>pick her up one morning.
>"so i figure you know what im going to say, right?" "Yep" "so we're dating now?"
>start dating, things are going really fuckin good
>that couple that invited us to the party sends us "the BDSM test"
>whatcouldgowrong.jpg
>ofc im a sub, but she's a dom
>"i saw your results, looks like you are quite the sub. That's pretty hot"
>start talking about our fetishes
>they line up pretty well
>she starts calling me "princess" and gives the best headscratches
>we do the collar about 3 months in
>she got an engraved tag
>"princess"
>immidiately takes me home and has fun with me
>she also teases me. Im very sensitive and its gotten to a point where she can just draw a line on my skin and im immidiately shaking
>in bed im really quiet and shy, she says she loves that i cover part of my face
>only makes me blush more and want to cover up myself more
>always texts me at night
>"goodnight, love."

She's a genuine gfd girl. Ive been blessed by the gods.
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>>7304764
>Is there a reasonable way to attract these types of women besides those retarded diet infographs?

Cute soft hair attracts them. You can put "I like women who like to take lead" in your bio. It sounds pretty normal.
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>>7297246
dom turns sub after a dicking

is there any hentai like this that I can read? it sounds incredible. not sure if I've come across it though
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>>7304816
>is there any hentai like this that I can read?
Like, half of the hentais where there is dominant female? Seriously, the ''dom turns sub after a dicking'' thing is not really rare in hentais. What is rare is find one where the women stays dominant all the way through and the ones that do usually aren't that gfd to be honest.
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>>7304764
>Quite frankly, I'm not totally convinced the femboy look actually attracts more gfd.

True, Being cute helps, but it boils down more to cute behavior than anything else.
Getting flustered easily, being shy, not being able to help yourself but smile around the girl you like, avoiding direct eye contact at first, all that jazz.

As for your bio, better use this anon's suggestion
>>7304816

Straightforwardness is nice, but subtlety is appreciated.
Dominant would be straight associated with sex, and that might create impression that all you want is sex. (yeah, I get it, you're on tinder, but still).
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>>7304764
>>7304825

Pardon, I meant to quote this anon's post
>>7304812 instead of >>7304816
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>>7304663
>>7304665
>be aspie
>go through college without meeting a qt gf who thinks being an aspie is cute
>get a job
>channel autism into work
>be successful because normies can't compete with that
>don't meet any girls on a male dominated field
>all hobbies are single person things because aspie
>tfw
It's a blessing and a curse.
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>>7304764
I'm
>>7304495
>>7304400
And honestly I never thought the femboy diets and look match up. If I wanted someone feminine I would be with a girl? I dunno I like the idea of a normal looking dude who just likes to be more submissive. The guy I'm with just happens to have nice shoulder length hair. Nice hair of any length does feel nice to pet so it's something to look into?

Like someone else mentioned, "looking for a dom girl" might get you all sorts of dommes not just gentle ones. Maybe mentioning how you're slightly more relaxed/passive than average? I've never been good with words myself.

Godspeed though, my dude. I wish you the best.
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>>7304557
I gave the poor thing a half boner right before we both had seperate math classes one night just with a quick smooch beforehand.

He struggles just watching me in biology lab when I'm super concentrated and cooing at the bacteria under slides while half bent over.

I'm trying to be a good person but also send him nasty texts at inopportune times because I also love it. He stained through his underwear and pants one time just from me talking about being wet.

Such as life. I need to stop playing the middle ground honestly. I feel like I could be so much better if I wasn't so needy for him as well
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>>7305251
at first it was just cute posting and now its attentionwhoring
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>>7304805
Bruh. GG man. Treasure her. I'm so glad I found a Domme as well. She's amazing. :)
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>tfw you're lonely and craving the affection of a gentle Domme/Mistress
> tfw you crave it so much you create an imaginary Domme/Mistress in your mind
>tfw you think about your imaginary Domme/Mistress so much that she seems almost real
> tfw thinking about your imaginary Domme/Mistress -who feels almost real -petting you and calling you a good boy is the only thing that chases the loneliness away.


I think I might be going crazy
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How about we all create a dating site for ourselves

Eventhough it'll fail it might work a small bit
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>>7305441
There are already tons of dating sites with the purpose of finding Dom women or for them to find sub men but I have no idea about how good they are.
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>>7305448
Name me a few that has no findommes, or those typical "mistresses" and "godesses" that just want to abuse men or doms who run professional dungeons
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>>7305462
As I said at the end of the post >I have no idea how good they are.

even if we set up a site for that purpose how do we stop the findoms or man haters from signing up and taking advantage of sensitive submissive guys?
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>>7305497
unless you want to start a site that requires a thorough vetting and background checks to get in... there really isn't a way.
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>>7305497
By banning them and making it clear they arent welcome
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>>7305509
Aye that'd work
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>>7304663
>That pic
I want to believe that's real.
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Is the discord decent here? I just want a faster flowing smut channel and most discords have that.
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>>7305812
which one
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>>7305996
>Which one
Oh god one of these deals huh? Well anyone that actually posts smut related to GFD I guess and has less autistic drama.

The link in the OP expired.
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>>7296447
>cutie(this one especially)
>sweetie
>baby
>darling
>good boy
>boy
>puppy
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>>7303784
>How far you'd sexually go with another male sub if domme ordered you to do it?
That'd depend on a lot of things. First, the domme would have to have enough control over me to make me feel submissive enough to do that. It would be difficult to find one who can inspire that amount of submissiveness in me.
Second, the other guy would have to be submissive as well (not switchy) and a twink, and without body hair and a sweet personality. And I should like him, so that rules out many subs like in this thread who are meme-obsessed shitposters.

So I may be open to it, but a lot has to go right for it to happen.
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>>7305448
>>7305462
I'd be down to try a dom/sub dating app if it was legit and not some kinda scam thing with tons of fake profiles. Are any of these types of apps anywhere near remotely popular?
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>>7306071
Something like that is (relatively) easy to make, but difficult to actually get people to use
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>>7306088
Not to mention how small the community is
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>>7305448
/gfd/ on 4chan at least has a negative repuation, and I wouldn't want to date anyone from here.
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>>7306224
Where would you like to find gfd girls then?
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>be me introverted shy guy
>working at store open late at night by a bar
>I work late one night drunk people coming in
>3 girls come in drunk trying to give me their numbers
>I get even more clumsy and self conscious
>have to awkwardly get on with my work while they keep hitting on me
>i didn't like the way they were hitting on me was kinda mean
>hits me on my drive home that I'm really bad with women and this is why I have only dated 2 girls ever
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>>7306482
Forgot pic
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>>7306233
Get a Fetlife account. Get into involved in your local community. Meet people.
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>>7306029
>puppy

I used to like puppy until I saw it used loads in degrading/humiliating/man hating femdom literature and vids.
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>>7305462
Try bumble, it's somewhat popular. Not really a dom/sub dating app but women have to make the first move
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Any stories with a vampire dom and a captured human?
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>>7307450
You can write one.
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http://tilly-monster.deviantart.com/art/Red-and-Black-Commission-531349624
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>>7298624
From now, until the end of lent, don't look at any porn. You'll balance out, don't worry
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>You could all get girls to dominate you easily. I'm going to talk about the problems I faced because of mistakes I made. This is my first time back in these threads and I used to be extremely active, so at least hear me out.

Firstly, if you're looking for a relationship, the first thing on your mind shouldn't be femdom. It's a normal relationship. You go out because you like each other, on the same basis that any other couple goes out, be they maledom, switches, normal etc.
Please for the love of god remember this, it's what put up such a barrier for me when I went onto these threads almost everyday, and it's such a simple thing, but it slipped through the net because I was too focused on getting a stronk, amazon gf.

Secondly, don't expect your girlfriend to be a full time domme. In fact, I would say you would be much happier if you dated normal/submissive girls and once you were in a relationship were you do things for eachother, you ask them to dominate you. This is another thing I was blind to. The amount of time I spent in here put me in a place where I thought the point of having sex once you were in that relationship was so she could dominate you. If you're having sex, even in a relationship with a "domme" (which I've been in a few times now) you will be taking the initiative and having normal sex or even dominating her at least half of the time. I also think this is pretty valuable, as if you're constantly having your fetish satisfied, then you lose sight of why you like it. Having it as a bit of a "treat" in a sense is so much better as when you do it and she's in control, you've held out for it. It's what makes this fetish so exciting.

Finally, and this is a weird one but it was extremely valid for me. Don't expect to find the dominant female character you've made up in your head in real life. Seriously, the chances your loli domme or your muscle waifu or your mommy gf even exist are miniscule, never mind the chances you'll actually meet them. 1/2
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>>7307740
You've got to be harshly realistic with yourself. Look at your own body in the mirror and pick yourself apart and decide what you want to work on. Even if your ideal domme existed, look at yourself in the mirror and ask yourself "why would she pick me?". Become attractive, go run, lift some weights, eat well, keep your skin under control. I got so wrapped up in the fantasy that I thought I could simply be a QT and a potential domme would pick up on it and whisk me away.
It's not going to happen guys, come on.

I'm going to summarise this in a few points for anyone with a case of TL;DR

0.(This only applies to anyone who has this problem that I certainly did) stop watching porn. For about 20 days, no matter how much you consume, drop it. You genuinely become better at talking to women, your orgasms will feel better, you'll perk up. Not to mention your sexuality will be revitalised. You'll honestly get turned on by a low cut top, it's like being 10 again and it's nothing short of magical.

1. Get fit, get well, make yourself attractive to women, not the domme succubus in your head who magically thinks nerds with a foot fetish are cute.

2. Look for a relationship. This is key, no one night stand is every going to have femdom in it and I expect that none of you are particularly into the idea of one night stands either. Get into a relationship with a girl, build up a normal sexual lifestyle and then ask her to domme you a bit. If she likes it, then hey, you're in luck. If she doesn't then you've still got a whole relationship built on each other, not some BDSM pipedream. (Chances are even women who are generally submissive will be up for putting in the work a bit if you have the love there first).
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>>7307763
3. Browse this place less. Browse femdom less, think more about yourself and your self betterment. Try and take yourself out of the cocoon, and you will have the life of a butterfly.

I'll probably hang around these threads a bit again until they dissolve when you've all taken my advice, gone out and cultivated yourselves good lives. I genuinely wish the best for all of you, which is why I'm telling you this.

t. Smolbrit
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>>7307707
I'm not looking for a relationship anytime soon so I can continue soothing myself with these fantasies until I decide to look for one.
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>>7307765
you're forgetting something. for a lot of us it's not just a fetish. it's a need for nurturing, affection and love. The sexual stuff is just built off all that. Also a lot of us are naturally shy, modest and introverted so we desire a strong, dominant, extroverted personality in our partners so we can lean on them when we're afraid or nervous or feeling weak or insecure.
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>>7307740
>>7307763
>>7307765
>wtf why aren't you guys taking the lead on the relationship? You should be thankful to have a gf no matter what, even if you want to be the sub and to be loved. Lol, pathetic fat pathetic losers women want alphas such myself, quit having fetishes society doesn't approve off
>inb4 "I'm not alpha and that's not what I said"
I do agree with the ''better and focus on yourself'' part (mostly because I'm egocentric and have my own idea of what male beauty is), but everything else sound like a bunch of barnacles because of my own experience.
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>>7307798
I'm not alpha and that's not what I said. Are you the type of person that thinks once you've said "What are you gonna do, shout at me?" In an argument, you can't be shouted at? Even if you don't agree with what I say, what can you lose by following my advice? Another 3 months on a fetish imageboard? Hours of monstergirl quest? What has half of these threads got to lose by taking advice out of their comfort zone?

>>7307790
>nurturing, affection etc.
I get it, I wanted the exact same thing. That's not something that's one sided in a relationship and is it is, it won't last a month, whether you keep her in a collar or she bend you over a table every night. Cherishing each other is a relationship, your partner can't be your masturbator, crying pillow and guardian. You've got toto observe the fact that you love each other before simply looking to them for what you lack as an introvert.
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>>7307822
>your partner can't be your masturbator, crying pillow and guardian. You've got toto observe the fact that you love each other before simply looking to them for what you lack as an introvert

traditional relationships are exactly this except it's the girl who uses the guy as all these things with not much in return. I get there has to be give and take but there's nothing wrong with one partner being more submissive as long as they don't take advantage. Can I provide love and affection back and a shoulder to cry on and still be submissive? of course I can. Can I be expected to force myself to be traditionally dominant and ask them to be dominant later on? No it's not me, it's never been me, if I try I won't be happy and the relationship will be fake. If you can do that you're probably a switch or a dominant not a sub.
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>>7307842
Essentially, yes, I agree with you. Traditionally this is done woman leaning on man for support, but this is because the woman was viewed as the weaker gender. If your idea of a gfd relationship is basically a normal relationship with the genders reversed, then I don't wish to stop you. My post was more to do with the extreme mindset that sets in after too much of these threads
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>>7307822
>what can you lose by following my advice? Another 3 months on a fetish imageboard? Hours of monstergirl quest? What has half of these threads got to lose by taking advice out of their comfort zone?
I like how you ignore the part where I said "because of my own experience". I've done the shit that you said for both this fetish and my attraction to yandere girls and trust me, it would have been better if I have spend a whole year just focusing on myself, shitposting and looking for the women I want instead of pursuing a hollow relationship. Because, yes, I found one and the girl wasn't bad or anything, hell she would have made me happy by trying out my ''crazy'' fetish if we ever get to have sex (but ultimately wanted to have a ''normal'' and traditional relationship), but that relationship didn't made me happy at all, it often made me hate myself for not liking it and for hurting the girl I was with (I end up hating her, but that's beside the point) I realized that I spend a year looking for something I ended detesting instead of doing things I actually like and looking for the person I want.

My advise for everyone, including you, is concentrate on yourself, try to become better and well off and then you can pick off what you want off the bin if you so desire, pursuing a relationship can only lead to three ways, 1) not finding anything and becoming bitter, 2) finding what you want but end up hating it for A or B reasons or 3) you get a happy ending.
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>>7307863
I think in that case your posts are somewhat irrelevant to most of us here. most the anons I've interacted with want what I want in almost the exact same way. sure we have our farfetched fantasies but we know what we want in real life and as I said it's exactly what I described. Perhaps you're engaging in projection. Perhaps because you had an extreme mindset in the past you're assuming that the rest of us do as well.
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>>7307798
>7307765
>t. Smolbrit

This dude was always a wannabe /pol/fag anyway. This preachy spiel belongs in the trash.
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