/efg/ Erotic Fiction General:

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Reposting as the last thread is going down:

2000 word update, public masturbation edition.
New content at "They lay together for a while, Jamie running his fingers over her glistening abs"

Worlds Apart:
http://pastebin.com/H03yuTbM
Tags:
>vanilla, romance, size difference, oral, vaginal, sweat, muscle, female ejaculation, large breasts, virgins, creampie
New tags:
>femdom, rough sex, dirty talk

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>>7232709
Oh yeah, I was the guy who first made the request that turned into that fic. Can't remember if it's still on 1d4chan though, ELH took most of his stuff down a while back.

Ironically, I ended up writing a fic with a similar premise myself some time later. Younger me would've been amazed by it, I'm sure. (On the other hand, younger me was also a bit of an idiot.)

But enough nostalgia-ing from me, I'm going to try to add the flying fuck scene to Divine Love by the time this thread 404s. Yes, that will be exactly what it sounds like.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/16KevErEaG7glBQ_SQyWLSQQLkiiPKUTT2EleZA51OrE/edit

Tags: humanxangel, vanilla, cunnilingus, vaginal

Reposting since I posted at the tail end of last thread.

About 2200 words to finish the next part of my monstergirl story. This is shaping up to be a lot slower-moving than I thought it would be. A lot of dialogue and buildup, but light on the sex. Still, it brings me to a good stopping point, so I'm just going to call this the end of part 1.

Iron Oxide
http://pastebin.com/ZkQdjJFL

Tags: Tags: M/F, Monstergirl

New stuff begins with: I couldn't sleep that night.

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Here's a story I forgot I was working on, until I rediscovered it last week.

A story based on one of my favorite Uyorr pics. It's a meaner story than I generally write, but it's good for a change of pace.

A Troublesome Inheritance
http://pastebin.com/6kwwcQ3g

Tags: Futa, Futa-on-male, Hyper, Multi, Excessive Cum, Non-con

This is the section I wrote as a one-shot a few years ago. I think I may have even posted it before, just not in a permanent form. I've got a few more chapters on the way, after another pass of editing on them.

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Can someone make a story about these two?

If anyone is taking commissions, I have lots of requests! Both specific and generic, with both straight stuff and gay/bisexual sex.

This might be waaay out there but I've been thinking a lot about this erotica I read when I was 17 and had my first orgasm reading it

It was about a young girl (really young like 8-10) and she had a sort of slime alien, I think, that would visit her and have sex with her and it impregnated her and she grew a dick
And had a drive to mate so she had sex with her mom and brain washed her then had sex with her mom again and her dad and infected them with the alien parasite and then she had an orgy with her mom dad and sister

And then finale, her big sister has a slumber party and the little girl has sex with her sisters friends and orders her sister, mom, and dad to fuck her sisters friends too.

Lots of parasite, hermaphrodite stuff. Anal , vaginal, oral oviposition. And breast tentacles.

Someone help me find it or something similar? It's been about 6 years, lol.

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>>7231533
Since the last thread is on it's way out, might as well share what a previous post made me think of.

>Reverse trap human (hid identity to get specific position in army) is discovered by a male Borealan comrade/rival.
>Blackmail ensues enforcing femininity and embarrassment via working as his maid. (this is assuming would Borealans get a kick out of the human fetishization of Catgirls, and forces her to dress with fake ears/etc.)
>Over time, relationship becomes mutually affectionate and she discovers a submissive streak and roleplay fetish she hadn't expected.

Well, hopefully the dud thread gets deleted soon.

>>7233108
>request that isn't about femdom catgirls
>turns into a request about femdom catgirls

Okay

>>7233256
There is literally no way to keep it out of things. It's like a cancer.

>>7233256
Ay, but it's about a catman and a human DRESSED as a catgirl!

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Shoggoth: http://pastebin.com/ntCLsHnc

Tags: m/f, shoggoth monster girl, slime girl, maid, telepathy, 'mind-melding', 'sensation-sharing', fellatio.

Not the larger project. Just something else because I'm in a major slump. Single quotes around those two tags because I have no experience with them, so if you go in with expectations you'll probably leave disappointed.

>>7233263
Considering snek is the most prolific writer here and it's the only thing he will fucking write, it's not exactly wrong that we have to cram it into every request in one form or another.
At least in that one its in the context of switching sort of.

>>7233350
god damn that was amazing

Is there a non-furry version of /efg/ anywhere on another board or something?
Asking for a friend.

>>7233498
Not that I know of. That said, Snek is the only one here who actually writes furry with any degree of frequency. He just has a very vocal fanbase, that's all.

There have been efforts to try to start up a similar thread on /aco/, but from what I've seen of them they either die off from a lack of people actually willing to write or have requests so incredibly specific that if you don't like the specific fandom, fetish, and characters involved in the request you're out of luck. Or both at once.

Tell your friend he's welcome to give it a shot if he thinks he can start it up, though. A little competition always helps to motivate folks.

>>7233498
>non-furry
I fucking wish /efg/ was more furry. I love the more feral anthro stuff, but all the stuff around here is generally just monstergirl / neko, which might as well just be humans playing dress up.

>>7233602
We were actually more "furry" back on /tg/. Even further when we had a story of a guy having a loving relationship with a giant female spider. No anthropomorphism, just a really big tarantula.

>>7233602
yiff in hell

>>7233582
I dunno if one subset of one species having fur makes it 'furry', there's a lot of baggage associated with that term.
If that's all you need to qualify, then yeah, but I'm not writing anthro animals, just humanoid aliens/monstergirls. Lots of blurred lines there. I don't think it's fair to associate me with sparkledogs and Lion King porn though.

>>7233350
Pretty excellent.

>>7232955
Oh nice I was looking forward to a continuation of this.

>>7233482
Well I did the lesbian ghost request and I'm doing more XCOM Vipers next, then I gotta finish Grave Goods. This is going to be the last feature-length catgirl story for a couple of months.

>>7233664
Except for the Vipers, that falls directly under the furry umbrella. Furry is just a generic term people came up with for all the anthropomorphic animals in cartoons/comics/games/novels/etc back in the day. Hell, even the furries can't agree on a strict definition for what makes someone a furry.

>>7233667
I'd consider Vipers 'more' furry than Borealans, they're a lot more animalistic and they have fewer human features.
Oh well I suppose it's all subjective.

>>7233670
Really, it's just a subcategory of xenophilia. The lifestyle faggots should be mocked, but that's true for any fetish.

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>>7233631
You know, I found a funny pic on that note...

>>7233664
I know, I know, I was just assuming the other guy was using one of the broader definitions of "furry". And the less said about the debate over the difference between furries and monstergirls, the better- /jp/'s been debating what that might be for years on end.

>>7233664
>>7233667
borleans are basically monstergirls, ie not furry

sneks are furry though

>>7233817
Equitorials are monstergirls, although just barely. They have facial structures comparable to miquote from final fantasy and their fluffy limbs are pretty common among monstergirls.

Polars are absolutely furry through, given a full fur cover.

>>7233850
>>7233817
Speaking of which:

Sneak preview of the smol Liz art, tol Liz not yet included as she needs a few changes.
http://imgur.com/a/vyN0A

>>7233861
That's way too cute

>>7233861
T'was a good choice in artist.

>>7233604
Giant spider, sphinx, dragons, gnoll, centaur, winter wolf, etc...

Some people had too much Monster Manuals on their shelves.

>>7232967
>>7232955

Holy crap long time no see man! I thought something happend to you

How have you been?

Are you still working on this?

http://pastebin.com/wF2uSFCC

The next part of A Troublesome Inheritance is up. This is the last of the old material, the next chapter will be all new.

http://pastebin.com/6kwwcQ3g

Tags: Futa, Futa-on-male, Hyper, Multi, Excessive Cum, Non-con, *Bondage, *Forced Ejaculation
(*new)

In this part Alex goes to Gisette's chambers at night, and gets way more than he bargained for.


>>7234284
>I thought something happend to you
Real life happened.

It's still on my list to finish. I'm finishing up one more part of the story I'm working on right now, and then I'll see if I can finish up the orc story.

>>7234336
I forgot, the new stuff starts with " The clock on the wall".

>>7234336

nice! Can't wait to see it finished

do you need that prompt for the story again or do you have a good handle on it?

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2000 word update, new content at "Struggling would be pointless"

Worlds Apart:
http://pastebin.com/H03yuTbM
New tags:
>I guess some kind of role reversal, not sure what the term is for when the dominant partner switches to submissive mid-fuck but that happens

>>7234381
I think I remember, or at least, I remember where I was going with it, and that I planned it to meet the prompt.

>>7234384

ok, just wanted to be sure

>>7233604
I actually really enjoyed that story. Very vanilla. And with actual monster.

>>7233861
Bueno

>>7234383
Not sure if I really wanted role reversal in this story. Was that something brought up?

>>7234609
Yeah someone requested it, along with the biting thing.

>>7232839
>discord
Why not IRC?

>>7234619
Why not Vent?

>>7234384

I'll just post it just in case


Requesting a gay story involving a human with pic orcs and assplay with the orcs on the receivieng end and the human topping

Something like chubby pig orcs on normal male human involving the orcs deciding to let him top them after seeing him getting aroused from them dropping their pants and mooning him,

the sex involves an orc giving the human a blowjob, and orcs getting their butts groped, rimmed (possibly an orc sitting on the human's face included or bukkake with butts instead), fingered and fucked

>>7234623

forgot to mention

no scat, watersports, or mindbreak

also this is the OR of that fic, glad to see ya back man

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>>7234617
Yeah, really not on board with that. I was worried that the story would be changed as per one anon's interests. I liked what you said you were going to make originally. But, I guess that just happens when everyone wants something thrown in.

Something I felt that was a bit of a let down. We never had Liz compare her new proportions to jamie. Felt like I didn't get a good enough visual of her.

Overall felt like a let down to me. I guess there is always next time.

>>7234619
Technically we have an IRC already, but nobody ever uses it.

>>7234643
What aspect didn't you like exactly?

She doesn't go full Zhari if you give it a read, just has him finish on top, and it's preceded by lots of femdom.
I believe the request in question was to have her take on a more submissive role at some point because she's always dominating everyone else, which I felt suited her character and their dynamic. Considering that Jamie let her lead when she was smaller than him.

Tell me if I fucked it up and ruined the vibe though, that's a possibility.

>>7234645
Maybe not being in the OP has something to do with that.

>>7234660
If you insist, it's /wst/ on Rizon.

Don't expect anything from it, even when it was in the OP nobody gave a shit.

>>7234658
Maybe I'm just tired. I'll try and give the whole thing a reread tomorrow. I better sleep now though. Two things before then though.

One thing before bed. you can't give a girl giant breasts and not do much with them. That should be a crime. Jamie criminally underused those boobs. Bite them, hug them, suckle them anything. That felt weak. You can't chekhov's gun me on the boobs. Then not do much with them.

At least you did more with the abs. Still felt like you could of done more with her muscles and worship with them.

Maybe its just my own mind making a stupid high bar for the story that didn't' exits in the first place. Admittedly I got hard just from the premise.

>>7234660
IRC always feels like using a supercomputer to teach a kid how to count to 10.

It does a ton, but if you don't need it to do all that much, you end up with a chat that is pointlessly hard to set up and maintain.

>>7233350
i want a creepy waifu now :(

>>7232955
>do not fist android girls
is flashing through my head while reading this.
Glad things ended merely humorously.

Liked it overall. Would read more.

>>7234383
Test

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Finally got around to reading the rest of this.

Manalishi's Two Prongs
http://pastebin.com/6xHpCu9N
>Tags: Shadowrun, Naga x Elf x Human, threesome, ffm, hemipenis, double penetration, anal, oral (male, female), female masturbation, excessive cum, bukkake, creampie

While good overall the initial sex scenes at the start didn't really do anything for me. It felt forced almost mechanical.
Everything in the later half seemed to work much better.

I don't know maybe I just prefer linear stories.

>>7234781
Are there Naga in Shadowrun? Where the heck would they have come from?

Elf magic? Or were they just a rare sort of change when the new age started?

>>7234787
>Are there Naga in Shadowrun?
Yes, but in Shadowrun they're huge, intelligent snakes. They lack the whole "human torso, arms and head" shtick.

>Where the heck would they have come from?
Places where huge sneks happen naturally before magic fucked with them. Most nagas just look like their non-intelligent 'cousins', albeit some are born with a more human-looking visage.

>>7234795
Okay, that would make more sense in a shadowrun mindset. I'm not the biggest shadowrun person, but I felt like I might have noticed Naga somewhere in the rules.

I don't think I've ever had the chance to play a Naga in any game I've played. (I should remember that next time I get in a DnD campaign. I'm sure there is some Naga playable somewhere.)

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Hey everyone I just want to thank to the person that wrote that "Elle futa story" if he is around.
Your work has brought me so many pleasant moments and I am grateful that you wrote so much and so long. Only the ending is what made me sad, I would have never expected such a sad ending. It killed my boner but it was worth it, it was all totally worth it, ALL OF IT.

Dear sir who wrote it, once again thank you so much and I hope life will allow you to write more stories like this in the future.

Purple Heart was fucking astounding goddam well done

Someone please write something like this.

>Vaginas are able to make men cum just by contact. Even if that guy isn't turned on or thrusting.
>A form of porn exists where gay men are paid to stick their dicks in women and have huge orgasms.

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>>7233968
>Giant spider, sphinx, dragons, gnoll, centaur, winter wolf, etc...
>Some people had too much Monster Manuals on their shelves.
Didn't we literally have a go at Eroticizing every entry?

>>7234645
>Technically we have an IRC already, but nobody ever uses it.
What happened to that paint thing?

>>7234940
Flockmod? It still sees some regular use during the weekends.

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Asked this question on /xeno/ and didn't get an answer of any use, so I've come back here.

How would an alien so vastly far removed from a human like pic related- how would "he" feel desire for a human female?

By which I mean, what would he find attractive about her?

Disregarding anything super-abstract, of course.

>>7235058
Scent always seems to be a consistent attractant throughout the animal kingdom so I would go with that. Pheremones and hormones aren't super abstract, I'd say. The alien does have some of her panties in that picture so the smell of them could be getting him off. Maybe body heat too could be a factor; something like the human female is metabolically comparable with the alien.

>>7235073
Hmm, that's definitely a start, but I don't see how that'd make him follow through to full-on penetration (I've got more pictures of these two, let me get back on my PC and I'll show you).

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>>7235058
Why are we attracted to monstergirls and xenos and all manner of weird shit?
I don't think it would be unreasonable to assume that kind of thing can go both ways.

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>>7235073
There wasn't any proper order for these, so I've had to use my imagination a bit. Anon has told me that her dialogue is typical hentai porny stuff, not really relevant to the discussion at hand.
>>7235098
Yeah, I'm aware, but I'm trying to think of it from within his mindset. I mean, there's no logical reason that he should be sexually attracted to her, barring what Anon said about scent and pheromones, so it goes without saying that he must have some kind of fetish.

I'm just trying to figure out what are the things about her that are the, mm, focal points of his fetish. What it is about her that he likes, basically.

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>>7235101

>>7235058
A) Parasite-like lifeforms may require the wombs of other creatures. Parasites on earth do things like replace the eggs of their enemies with their own, forcing another species to raise their children. They also just directly inject their eggs or young into another body to be consumed from the inside out. I don't think there's anything that directly hijacks the womb on earth, but just say it's a bit of the former, bit of the latter, with better precision that allows it to identify other fertile species capable of hosting their young. Perhaps the chosen host determines the form of the young. Much like xenomorphs that chestburst from a dog are different than those that chestburst from a human or Engineer, the first creature arriving might be some monstrously alien tentacle thing, but after using humans as hosts for its brood the offspring may look kind of like your picture, adapted for the host. They'd breed horses and other large earth animals to produce useful variants of their invading species/fetish-specific chapters of the elit being written. Offspring created from an alien and a human host may be more compatible or more attracted to their parent host animal vs another animal, so they repeatedly breed with humans and create ever-more humanlike offspring. If they still have the ability to parasitically implant other suitable mammals, you'd mix various earth creatures down the bloodline to create some kind of anthro alien furfag abomination.

B) Maybe that alien is kind of a weirdo among their own people and is on an animal sexcation, like when humans go to Africa to fuck monkeys or whatever.

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>>7235103
Bit of a recycled pic here, in fact that's the same for the next two, but they give a fairly good idea of how things have progressed anyway.
>>7235104
I'm inclined to go for the latter point here, I've already settled on this alien having a human fetish, now I'm just trying to hammer out the specifics.

God knows why, I very much doubt I'll get anything written.

Also, "animal sexcation", please tell me that's not actually a thing?

>>7235104
Realised you're asking for your specific scenario, the alien pictured is likely the product of a few generations of human hosts and thus is gaining attraction to humans. If the originals even have sex drives for their own species, they likely view humans and other animals as simply dispassionate breeding tools. The offspring would take on both physical and some psychological traits of the hosts. It would make them better conquerors, until one individual got just human enough to fall..... in love! Or in lust, depending on what kind of story you're going for. Maybe some are assigned to caring for the native animals of a host planet, like a rancher; for such a creature it would be advantageous to be bred for understanding of the animals, and having relations with their herd or charges would make sense, more sense than the real-world human-animal relationships that form. The alien culture probably doesn't view bestiality as anything more than part of interacting with other species anyways.

>>7235107
Many things are possible as long as you have money, sadly enough...

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>>7235107
Presumably this is after the previous ones, when they're getting ready for round two. Something that's only just occurred to me is that I'm not actually sure if it's supposed to rape or just him being rough with her.
>>7235109
Mm, it's a good concept, don't get me wrong, but I don't think I'll use it for this one. I seem to like the idea of the alien being sentient and yet consumed with lust for this strange, exotic human woman.

Especially considering how these pics end.

>>7235107
What, you mean sex tourism for animals? Yeah, sometimes IRL makes /d/ look tame. Donkey shows are a thing too. I think a somewhat more sympathetic thing is stories of zookeepers forming sexual relationships with their animals. I can see how, given long term exposure to other animals whose priority you put over your own, one's humanity can erode enough to go back to a more savage and animalistic nature where communication isn't restricted by human language or culture. It's at least a bit more loving/caring than "Here's 20k, tie down the chimp".

There's that dolphin study they did back in the acid-filled 60s where they had a human woman and a dolphin live together, to try to foster relationships between our species or steal dolphin spaceship technology or whatever. Eventually she was giving handies to the dolphin because the dolphin was asking for them. It wouldn't understand that our culture looks down on that, especially since dolphin culture is pretty rape-happy on other species. The dolphin and the human were communicating through body language. Food, protection, sex; those are at the root of any mammal's thoughts, and inevitably all will factor into communication and relations. She had to, and she didn't feel bad about it because she said it wasn't even super sexual for her, it was just part of how they communicated and helped each other. They loved each other in a manner probably more like a pod/tribe of 2 than a human romantic couple, but fundamentally as two mammals working together.

Now personally I'll stick to spidergirl and lamia hentai, but I feel I understand how these sort of things happen. We can try to build ourselves up, but we're just animals.

>>7234336

muh dick

>>7235115
I like the lust stories more anyways.

Alien is several generations down from root and human. Supposed to guard some slaves or whatever. No one's around to watch? Let's have some fun with the subjugated species, I was bred for compatibility anyways. *flurry of tentacles and beautiful erotic horror*

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>>7235115
I can only assume that she was too sore to let him fuck her properly again, so she brought him off with her thighs, which you don't see much of.
>>7235110
>>7235120
You know, it's almost comforting to know that the human race is still more depraved than you are.

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>>7235126
>>7235130
You misunderstand, I want the power dynamic to be completely equal. Maybe even in the human's favour a little bit.

The subjugated species thing, it's not what I want out of this one. It's that funny sort of lust that can turn into genuine love once the adrenaline rush has passed.

Pic related.

>>7234946
And whenever Cuteanon shows up, which can be just about anytime.

And while I never thought I'd say this, I actually was wondering where the hell you went, ND. It's not like you to be away from us for this long.

>>7235107
>>7235115
It's your weird story man, why are you asking us for specifics on what your alien guy likes about your human gal in your story? Just pick whatever you like and go with it. Why do people insist on vagueposting about their own kinks, do you really need that many people to row your boat?

>>7235139
He's thinking of her as a tenga onahole. That's not exactly equal.

>>7235149
>It's your weird story man, why are you asking us for specifics on what your alien guy likes about your human gal in your story?
I'm asking for suggestions that people might have for stuff. My own imagination isn't very good, I'm always getting bogged down in the whys and wherefores, other people can bypass that and get straight to the point.

It's got nothing to do with wanting other people to share my fetish, I'm just asking for help.

>>7235156
But it doesn't even take imagination, man. Just take a grab-bag of human features. You know what humans have on them, right? They don't even have to be traditionally thought of as attractive pieces of human, since this is an alien you're talking about. An alien with a fetish, apparently, which means it can make even less sense.

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>>7234946
>Flockmod? It still sees some regular use during the weekends.
>>7235142
>And whenever Cuteanon shows up, which can be just about anytime.
Good to hear.
I don't mind Discord, but I've subscribed to so many already that it becomes a chore to slog through it all.

>And while I never thought I'd say this, I actually was wondering where the hell you went, ND. It's not like you to be away from us for this long.
Thanks Archive Anon, and the reason is the passive-aggressive actions of certain someones making me disappear for a month whenever they catch me using the name...

>>7235058
>How would an alien so vastly far removed from a human like pic related
Honestly Anon, pic related doesn't LOOK that far removed from a human...

Yeah, he's got tentacles and a truly alien facial structure, but he otherwise has a humanoid body structure...

>>7235220
>But it doesn't even take imagination, man. Just take a grab-bag of human features. You know what humans have on them, right? They don't even have to be traditionally thought of as attractive pieces of human, since this is an alien you're talking about. An alien with a fetish, apparently, which means it can make even less sense.
Indeed, he could have a thing for her toes for all we know!

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>>7235156
>>7235220
>>7235336
Or they could be a leg man.

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Added another thousand words or so, polished up the sex scene and made the role reversal less jarring, added chapters.
Think I'm finished unless anyone has any complaints they'd like me to address. What do you think of the ending? I didn't feel I needed to elaborate too much.

Worlds Apart:
http://pastebin.com/H03yuTbM
>no new tags

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>>7235341
>Or they could be a leg man.
Well that's just it, the pictured alien has fairly humanoid legs, what he lacks are articulated toes!

So yeah, I'm going to go with foot fetish.

>>7235447
Give me some time Snek. I have some feedback but I'm not sure when I'll have the time to jot it down.

>>7235447
I might come across a bit harsh here, but I'm not trying to be rude or disparaging

Basically, the first half is great, the characters are cute, and you've done a good job at conveying personalities. the sex scene is also really cute.

the second half has problems, though. The character personalities kinda feel like they've evaporated somewhat; I agree with the people who suggested during the writing that jamie should have done *something* to try and get to her. Liz comes back, and we really don't see much of her old character shining through. part of the problem is that in contrast with jamie's bad romance novel collapse into depression and pining, she comes off as a bit too I guess Borelan; we don't really see any indication that she's so happy to be out of there and back on earth beyond her just saying so, and even then it seems like she only came back because he's there, not out of any dislike for borelas or the borlean life.
And the second sex scene. to be honest, it's just not awkward enough. it really does feel like you've reverted to type, with the borlean who knows exactly what she wants and what she's doing ravaging the human who just does whatever she wants and mostly lies there. Except that doesn't make sense here; Liz has NEVER had sex in her new, massive body before. As a matter of fact, it's both of their second times, period. it could have really used a lot more awkwardness and body exploration, because she wouldn't have any idea how to fuck in her new, giant body and obviously he wouldn't either.

>>7235854
That doesn't come across as harsh at all, those are completely valid criticisms.

It wasn't really my intention to have Liz dislike Borealis, she learned more about herself and kind of grew into her Borealan nature. She really did come back just for Jamie.

For the second sex scene I guess I equated confidence with what amounts to experience, which in retrospect, as you say isn't very logical. Maybe I can touch that up by adding some extra lines in there to make their interactions more exploratory.

>>7235870
>she learned more about herself and kind of grew into her Borealan nature. She really did come back just for Jamie.
that makes the whole thing a bit tragic, doesn't it?
I mean, to be a borlean means she HAD to have more or less given up any essential humanity and human personality she had from her time on earth.
Really, if it's like that, than it's actually quite sad; the girl he fell in love with IS gone, and all that's come back is really just a borlean who inherited jamie and a hangup or two from the old liz

>>7235911
Pretty much.
She is an alien, as much as she felt like she belonged on Earth, she had an alien biology, and alien instincts and desires. Her parents took her to the one place that would allow her to mature in a way that was natural. I'm not saying what they did was right, but they thought it was best for her.
She became stronger and more confident because of it, she learned to be independent and to stick up for herself.

However, she resisted the most powerful Borealan urges and came back to Jamie, so,her 'human personality' is shining through and won out in the end. If she had completely given herself over to her instincts and forgotten her life on Earth, she could have become a powerful Matriarch. Instead she chose Jamie.

At least to me, that's a victory for smol Liz.

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>>7235934
I think that's probably why I didn't like the second half as much; I really liked the idea of a borlean raised in human culture, thinking like a human, and discarding that in favor of the same thing as every other story seemed like kind of a waste of potential

>>7235934
What seemed odd to me was how previously she had been really good at languages and biology, but that side of things seemed entirely lost from her personality. It was as if gaining confidence and finding that she gets a rush from the fighting erased that side of her entirely, which felt somewhat like she had become a cardboard cutout personality as opposed to having grown. Their conversations while young made her out to have aspirations to do significant things - being a diplomat is pretty serious stuff that can improve things not just for you but for a great many other people - while also having romantic/personal desires, though she didn't express them out of shyness. The confidence boost has made her unafraid to openly declare those things, but on the other side of things she came across as being rather goalless. She owns plenty of stuff and she can use it as a source of income, but there's no larger purpose she would like to achieve any more.
The fact that she came back for Jamie does suggest that she still holds a more human way of valuing people and her relationships with them, though there wasn't really any time to explore that side of things.

>>7235447
I'm going to echo the above sentiments and say that it kind of feels like the first half of one story and the second half of another that don't quite dovetail completely

>>7235955
Just give it up. You're arguing against both the irrepresability of 'boralianness' and what I take as deep-rooted ignorance of the depth to which nurture effects growth.
But whatever, identity death is some peoples fetish. I've seen a few handfuls of threads on it.

>>7235996
That's true, having her still want to be a diplomat should be trivial to add and I'll do so.

>>7235447
Oh hey it's finished, time to read
>>7235870
>she learned more about herself and kind of grew into her Borealan nature
...shit.
That was pretty much the one thing I DIDN'T want out of this story

>>7236011
Might want to hold off another day, I have a couple more things to add based on the feedback.

I seem to have missed the point of what people seemed to want out of this story though...

I was going for a kind of nature vs nurture theme, where she kind of overcomes her nature in order to continue her relationship. Did I not accomplish that, or did you guys not want that?

>>7233035
>17
>first orgasm


???????????

>>7236014
>I seem to have missed the point of what people seemed to want out of this story though...
>I was going for a kind of nature vs nurture theme, where she kind of overcomes her nature in order to continue her relationship. Did I not accomplish that, or did you guys not want that?
I think what people were looking for was a story where the borlean character fights their nature and *wins* rather than making a conditional surrender as shown here

>>7236014
>Did I not accomplish that
considering the characterization reads as a paean to nature winning out and Borealan's being practically feral beasts who regress to their 'natures' when removed from 'training' at all, you've failed utterly.

With a bit of honest salt, it feels like you never even bothered trying to write an adult version of the initial character, or even considered the original character much of a Borealan at all. It feels like you made a childhood friend with some Borealan characteristics with the full intent to squish them into the generic "Borealan dom female" mold that you use so often.
It infuriates me because you can write outside of it and you've shown that you are able to write some variety to Borealan personality, so it comes off as you being a writer with one story in them who keeps veering back to it whenever you start to do something else.

salt out of the way, I feel you should go back through and work on making her returned self an actual character. Hell go back through and edit the whole work if that's what it takes to establish the proper character growth; easy points would be having her being on earth for actual business as well, something that she took over and is using to further herself toward an official diplomatic position.
Edit the sexual confidence out of the sex scene, or follow the advice of others here and pull back in the confident-but-clumsy nature of their first time.
Exploring her new body (both of theirs really but she's changed the most) is a massive opportunity for romance and eroticism that was frankly missed. Lots of things she does, like basic tail-lifting for one, are things she would have never done in a romantic context before; use that.

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>>7236038
As for keeping her nature AND her nurture both relevant, the first thing I can think of is her fighting: tie it to humanity a bit, and make it a bittersweet mix of feelings. She enjoys that she can be strong and successful and have her parents respect again, but the underlying unease over the slim possibilty of losing and getting raped, remember she does still consider it that, keeps her always on edge and unable to truly enjoy her victory. On the other side of things, her martial arts and the victory they bring would itself be a constant reminder of her time on earth and something she could (and would) hold unto in valuing earth culture above Borealan. She's literally defeating the savage power with earth's skills, how could that not color her view of rising through power.

>>7236036
I don't think having human nurture override her nature is ideal either. There's a mix to be had of the two, rather than one or the other or some sort of cut-and-paste.
Her drives and instincts and hormones are all still there, but if she has a thinking mind (and honestly, having Borealans be ultimately 'feral' is a real and tragic possiblity that I would not completely hate being a tragedy buff) then those instincts are run through her growth and influenced and controlled themselves.

>>7236014
>I seem to have missed the point of what people seemed to want out of this story thoug
From what people were talking about when you were formulating the ideas for this, a lot of interest seemed to in almost a "human on borleas" story, except that since liz has borlean stonk and kung fu grip, she could actually stand up and not compormise herself without getting reckt like a normal human would.
I think turning the interm into "Jamie and the infinate sadness (and also liz turns into a regular borlean ofscreen)" missed out on a lot of what people were interested in in the concept

>>7236038
Some good ideas in here. I still think she should be back on earth for Jammie. Otherwise that seems very cold of her. I guess she could be using her job as a way to do that though.

>>7236038
>Exploring her new body
That could be hot. Also could help snek work on his descriptions of size and weight.

>>7236014
Seems like everyone had a different idea on where to take it. I like the femdom in it. It was already established that she liked it like that. So did jammie

>>7236049
I really liked the idea of her physically changing. His small childhood love comes back massive. That turns so many gears for me.

>>7236038
>>7236046
>>7236036
>>7236049
I see what you're saying, but at the same time I don't want to dilute her Borealan nature and make it trivial to the point that she might as well not be one, you know? They're dominant and they're aggressive, that's what they are, it's the concept of the species.

I feel like some of the pitches I get require Borealans to stop behaving like Borealans in order to play a role in a story, and then I feel like, what's the point?
Perhaps the solution is a third race with the characteristics those people are looking for? I'll have a think about it.

I don't want her to suppress her Borealaness to the point that isn't a factor in her behavior, but maybe you're right and I went too far in the opposite direction, I'll work to correct that tomorrow. I'll make their sex scene a lot more exploratory and I'll try to give her some more ambition and characterization. I don't have the time to do extensive rewrites but I can add a lot to those final scenes to hopefully address a lot of the criticisms.

I really appreciate the input.

Also please enjoy this 90% finished adult Liz. The full piece should be done in a day or two.
http://i.imgur.com/VTtNavt.jpg

>>7236066
>I feel like some of the pitches I get require Borealans to stop behaving like Borealans in order to play a role in a story, and then I feel like, what's the point?
I think it's the appeal of role reversal; someone who's expected by all rights to be one way not being that way, in fact almost being the opposite. Ironically, that's pretty much the draw of femdom in general and /gfd/ in particular, no?
Hell, aliens and monsters not acting the way they're traditionally portrayed is like half this thread's stock and trade.

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>>7236066
Holy shit, that adult Liz. Thank you. I want to rub my face on those abs.

>>7236066
>They're dominant and they're aggressive, that's what they are, it's the concept of the species.
>I feel like some of the pitches I get require Borealans to stop behaving like Borealans in order to play a role in a story, and then I feel like, what's the point?
People like twists and subversions more than they like things played straight, especially the /tg/ crowd who love worldbuilding and still make up a lot of the folks here. You've played Borlean as aggressive femdom rapecats straight so far, people want a borlean played another way it seems

Just finished this request fulfillment.

Of Wolf and Elf
http://pastebin.com/XxiAz2Sy
Werewolves x Thicc Half-Elf, impregnation/pregnancy fetish, gangbang, size difference, oral, vaginal, anal, all the classics, all the good stuff.

>>7236058
>I guess she could be using her job as a way to do that though.
that was the idea of it yes.

>I don't want to dilute her Borealan nature and make it trivial to the point that she might as well not be one
I understand this and I get that making her just a 'fluffy human' would miss the point just as much, but I feel the current iteration just as badly ignores her human upbringing and does nothing to hybridize the two.

Dominance and Aggression feature fine in her and those being present isn't the problem, its that they were added and everything else was taken away.
Nothing wrong with her enjoying the instinctive thrill/hunger for battle, but why can it not color and be colored by her learned reservations for the cultural feedback that those instincts have?
I could give more examples but it's getting to the point of rehashing the same topics so I'll just leave a couple more things:
you seem to be hung up on Borealan culture and Borealan nature being one and the same, which I believe is a mistake. Aggression and Dominance will still be the core nature, but they will be expressed differently depending on the culture. I think the best example to reference is actually in your own works with the differences between Polars and Equatorials. Both breeds of Borealan are Dominant and Aggressive, but they expressed those core features in very different ways (I think making them completely divergent species spoils that very good world aspect a bit).
With this in mind, how do the core values get expressed through a human culture? A good worldbuilding exercise if nothing else.

>Perhaps the solution is a third race with the characteristics those people are looking for?
I have to touch on this because your mindset of having nature win out in the end seems so much more fitting for your already-established species of the Krells. Their portrayal is universally more 'beastial' and simple, and with what you've said of them they seem ideal for a race slave to their biology.

>>7236066
>Perhaps the solution is a third race with the characteristics those people are looking for? I'll have a think about it.
If you want to write a race with both affection and sexual aggression as a core, use the Brokers. I'd had a bit of a headcannon of them as sort of humanoid squid-Dolphins, with emphasis on the dolphin part and their infamous rape tendency as well as their capacity for deep loving bonds.

>>7236083
Pretty great.
Wouldn't have minded if becoming a broodmother turned her more wolflike.

>>7234843
Purple heart is like 10x better than fineprint.

>>7236111
I thought about it, but I didn't wanna go Full Jay Naylor.

>>7235336
Nice queen is nice

>>7236011
Exactly my sentiments, character death is like an anti-fetish of mine and this makes me sad.

While I understand the implications and control biology has on personality it would've been nice for her mindset to stay fairly "human", but whatever.
>>7236014
My comrade you've very much failed the nature VS nurture. Her nature won. She embraced "rape culture" (now laughing at my own joke), and came back to Jaime because he is hers. If nurture had won she would've come back not onky because she likes him but because she doesn't like, or at least is annoyed with, her her home planets culture/biology driven rape culture.

>>7236066
Making her a fluffy human would be a mistake, and for the sake of not repeating arguments I'll just say that going against racial stereotypes is a huge turn on, as long as it's actually against racial stereotypes. Liz before the trip to cat planet is a nonstandard therefore role reversed, after planet trip Liz is essentially the polar from purple heart, has an understanding of human culture and the way they think but otherwise polar.

>>7236130
Mixed thoughts on jay, I like the art but the story lines of his come across as being "enlightened" like the dude has only red pill thoughts.

>>7236153
Yeah, completely agreed. This was kind of inspired by his Red Riding Hood stories, but where he decided he was Worse George RR Martin, I just wanted to stay at face value.

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>>7233033
>That's "Uplifted" by Devo the Cursed.

>http://www.tgstorytime.com/viewstory.php?sid=2803&ageconsent=ok&warning=3
Huh. I think that was a good ending. And I'm not usually into that sort of thing.

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Whenever I see a male x futa story it's always futadom, usually of the incredibly harsh variety. So I'd like to request a more consensual, romantic story with a touch of transformation.

Something like, a guy and his female friend go on an adventure. Over the course of the adventure she gradually goes from wimpy village girl to a dickgirl amazonian warrior. Despite her physical changes she keeps the same sweet country girl personality that he fell in love with.

Any new work by D? The latest I have is Player Witch part 6 and Girlfriends4Ever part 2.

>>7236174
I'd definitely do that if I could write a story longer than 14k words. Or if I could write, for that matter.

>>7236174
Source or artist name, please?

>>7234687
It's really not hard to use, though. Way more basic than discord to get going as you just plug in a random nickname and address and off you go. There's even a dozen or more web clients you could use if you don't want a dedicated one.

>>7235058
Common traits. That said, that pic still shows an alien close enough to humans that he's ticking a bunch of boxes for normal human to human level attraction. Well defined muscles such as abs, pecs, biceps, wide shoulders, long legs with strong thighs etc. Besides the head tentacles and "feet" it's a pretty classical male human style physiology even if the proportions are off. For that specific image I could easily see males of his species being attracted to human women for almost all the same reasons human men would be. Applying suspension of disbelief and/or some light handwaving we can reasonably assume that attraction to things that are present in both species will usually be a two-way street.

For other alien designs (both mechanical and biological) that appeal to us they generally do so because there's still always aspects of their physiology that are analogues of individual parts of human bodies. See: Metal Gear Solid 4 walker robots and Warframe Moas (thick thighs and long legs for days), anything drawn by meandraco on FA (genitals, butts and/or tits even if the rest is alien), xenomorphs (dicks dicks dicks, rape allegories and more dicks).

Generally speaking any evolutionary indicator of fertility would work. That said, that could also be one-sided. If you come up with some handwavy explanation for the head tentacles of the guy in the picture being indicators of fertility, status etc then a deviant of his species might have a raging hardon for human women with certain hairstyles.

>>7236066
Third race? Did someone say skittish, submissive insectoid POW waifu cut off from the hive mind and latching on to her human handler for protection and comfort?

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>>7236509
Sounds like a good idea to me. Sounds like a great idea.

>>7236509
Throwing in some biology knowledge. Quite a few bugs will land on people to drink their sweat due to the salts and minerals that can be found in it. Also, pheromones play a much bigger part in how bugs view each other. Like how if you can bond with a queen of a wasp hive you can stick you hand into the swarm of wasps without getting stung because the queen isn't giving the "attack" pheromone off.

>>7236470
Nah, with Discord you just follow a link directly into the chat you have been invited to. Discord is easier, and doesn't have as many options beyond that (as far as a normal user is concerned).

>>7236509
>>7236638
I have some plans for the Betelgeusians involving the queens and mass drone orgies. Maybe some slavery too, I've not decided yet.
Expect that in like...four months at this rate lol.

I polished up Worlds Apart about as much as I can, final version is out and I'm gonna get an Ebook done. I'm gonna start on Snek 4 tomorrow.

>>7236147
>Her nature won.

Well that was the idea, to an extent. She's a Borealan, she can't suppress her nature no matter how many books she reads. She's a giant space monster full of rape hormones who has evolved to fight and fuck.

She has to deal with that, it's just reality.
She came back to Jamie so she isn't a slave to her biology, and in that respect her 'nurture' won out, but you can't swim against the current.

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>>7236298
The artist is Mofuringu but the colorization was done by some anon a long time ago.

>>7236780
Again I advise rereading the differences you wrote between Polars and Equatorials in their expression of base Borealan instinct.
Same instinct, different expressions due to culture and history.
You can't stop the Borealan nature, but you can run it through different pipes.

>>7236780
>>7236780
>Well that was the idea, to an extent. She's a Borealan, she can't suppress her nature no matter how many books she reads. She's a giant space monster full of rape hormones who has evolved to fight and fuck.
I really have to ask, snek, why are you so stringently opposed to borleans having any personalities or dimensions that aren't "wherever I go, I must also rape"?
What's with that, man?

>>7236910
He made an alien race around his fetish of gentle femdom. These are fapfics first and all the worldbuilding is just icing and toppins of the cake.

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>>7235854
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>>7236910
>/efg/'s face when snek NTRs their hearts with bimbofication

>>7236866
They're a different species with a totally different social system though.

I think we have fundamentally different opinions on to what extent nurture can override nature.

The Polars were isolated for thousands of years in a harsh climate and developed a cooperative, non-confrontational society as a result. That's written into their genes as much as their culture.

If you had Polars raise an Equatorial they'd still have rapey urges, it's written into their genes, it's instinctual. How they would deal with those urges might vary but they'd be no less strong. They don't get an overriding urge to breed after a fight because their culture tells them that's what they're supposed to do. Liz has those instincts, but she was able to manage them, that doesn't mean they're gone.

Think of it like dogs and wolves, outwardly similar, very closely related, similar social structures, yet behaviorally very different. You can't domesticate a wolf no matter what environment you raise it in.

>>7236910
That's what I made them for!

I designed them from the ground up to be femdom monsters. It's like saying "why don't you do a quiet, polite Klingon" or "why don't you do a short Wookie with no hair", that's just not the point of them. Could there be a quiet Klingon somewhere who hates fighting and just wants to become a ballet dancer? Probably, but that's not the purpose they serve in the story.

In time, I'll be able to write more races that appeal to different subsets of people, I have the Polars for people who want the femdom without the violence, I've got Krell on the way for people who like futa and traps, Brokers, Bugs, but it takes time.

At some point the Borealans will lose their personality and their purpose and I don't want that to happen. They aren't fluffy humans, they're a distinct species with their own culture and instincts that I spent a lot of time working on.

>>7236808
Thanks.

>>7236931
Snek, since you mentioned that you're a /d/ native and not one of the ex-/tg/ crowd here, I figure I should explain a few things which might make more sense of why people are interested in these things that you don't see the point of.
Basically, there's a fundamental difference in perception going on. You see the various bits of the background in the stories you've written as just single-purpose props, like you said, you developed races purely to express certain fetishes. But the /tg/ crew looks at the stuff you've come up with as a *setting*, and the races and stuff you've created as parts of the setting, like any other races in any other fantasy setting, not as fetish delivery vehicles. Thus, the conflicting ideas. I guess to use a simple analogy, you look at say Borleans, and they're a square block to be fit into a square hole. But /tg/ looks at that block and sees "hey, put a little paint on it and it'd make a solid building in this model city"
I'm sorry if this doesn't make as much sense as I think it does, I am quite drunk

>>7236014
I think part of the problem is that in the context of the scenes after she got back, it came across as though nature predominantly won - though this is in part because there wasn't the sort of character interaction that could have exposed much of her personality.
>>7236066
I agree several pitches have come across as asking you to write a not-Borealan Borealan, which defeats the point.
I would have said that her reaction that the Borealans were "all savages" was actually pretty unfair, but in character for someone used to earth who was panicking about being transplanted to a new world at the drop of a hat. Her finding that she actually enjoys the aggression and the feeling of dominance, plus discovering that they're not exactly animals living in mud huts (even if they are comparatively primitive) should definitely have her warm to the culture, but a lot of its formal strictures would have still been very frustrating, and getting away from that for the first time in three years would be a huge relief. The level of submission given to alphas, to the point of blind yes-manism and never offering criticism until they do something really stupid, would be very frustrating to someone who clearly has an inquiring mind and did well in school. Equal peers are the basis of a friendly debate of ideas.
Relying on someone in authority who got there mostly by strength rather than administrative skill to delegate tasks would almost certainly be head-bangingly irritating to someone who has come from another system - it works, in fact both this and high levels of deference appear in historical/tribal human cultures, but we know that it doesn't work very well. Sure, she may have gotten a massive high out of the dominance fights, and she would be justifiably pleased with all the cool shit she got out of it, but it would still be a really obviously dumb way to pick who calls the shots to anyone who wasn't actively indoctrinated into the 'honor' of it all.

>>7236931

Translation: Don't like one-dimensional rapecats? Wish you couldn't predict every action they'd take from the moment you read the first line of the story?

Commission/request polars today!

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>>7237001
Translation: don't like one-dimensional rapecats? Then don't read a story about them tagged as femdom ya dingus.

>>7237010

I like 3 dimensional rapecats thank you very much

i feel like writing something, but i don;t think it's weird enough for anyone here, but /d/ seems to be the only place with an active erotic fiction thread.

>>7236780
>Well that was the idea, to an extent. She's a Borealan, she can't suppress her nature no matter how many books she reads. She's a giant space monster full of rape hormones who has evolved to fight and fuck.
True; I think the issue is that while that will translate into Borealans having highly assertive, dominant personalities who get a huge thrill out of fighting, it doesn't mean they wouldn't also be able to enjoy things like reading and discussion of things on their own merits rather than using their status to 'win' the argument and so forth. The native Borealan culture can be characterized as having distilled itself down to revolve almost entirely around those central traits to the exclusion of all else, which is a thing that can and does happen in civilizations, but generally causes a background hum of almost unconscious frustration among members of the civilization who can't satisfy their other traits, even if they're less pronounced, and a far more conscious grating annoyance for someone familiar with other cultures.

>>7236931
If you really want to grow as a writer, you should learn to give your charcters more personality as an individual. Even if it's just a fapfic to adress a fetish.

>>7236747
hxxp://mibbit.com/#/wst/@irc.rizon.net like this?

IRC is every bit as easy, but has flexibility to do a lot of things if the user wants to.

>>7237034
We enjoy some pretty goddamn vanilla shit here man, so just write it

>>7237039
To offer a counterpoint: Part of growing as a writer, especially in this type of setting where comissions, requests etc are the norm, is to be able to and know when to say "no" if and when it conflicts with your vision for what you're trying to create.

There's a lot of valid criticisms and I think everyone agrees that it's always beneficial to learn how to branch out from one's comfort zone in order to grow, but it seems like some people run with that concept to the point where it's an "everything goes" as far as character types being shoehorned onto a race where said types are in direct conflict with their nature. A wide plethora of personalities could reasonably fit the borealans while still adding to their raison d'être without us trying to explore the full range of every type of person seen in humanity. There are better ways of running the full gamut of character exploration where it won't unnecessarily complicate the actual production of the porn we came here for in the first place.

>>7237050
That doesn't work, I tried. Besides, it's always empty. Literally nobody uses it.

>>7237059
Well I wasn't trying to make a statement about how often that particular channel is used, just IRC in general and its ease of use. Like Discord it's a single link affair to get going and users can then choose to download and use a dedicated client which will offer varying degrees of complexity and feature sets.

>>7237037
This. I could easily see in the case of one academically and intellectually inclined like Liz, the drive for dominance could easily be expressed as an extreme drive to always be on the cutting edge in her field; to be a well-known expert. Like, I imagine her getting as much satisfaction from a newspaper article calling her "the leading expert in borlean fauna on earth, Dr.Liz [Jamie's lastname-her lastname]
Hell, I could easily see her on borleas beating up a ranger or two to get them to tell her everything they know about various species humans don't know shit about, and having this huge pile of half-finished papers she intends to finish and publish as soon as she's back on earth

>>7237065
>Like, I imagine her getting as much satisfaction from a newspaper article calling her "the leading expert in borlean fauna on earth, Dr.Liz [Jamie's lastname-her lastname]
Got cut off.
Should go
Like, I imagine her getting as much satisfaction from a newspaper article calling her "the leading expert in borlean fauna on earth, Dr.Liz [Jamie's lastname-her lastname]" , maybe more, as from kicking some particularly disagreeable guy's ass

>>7237034
I like non-weird stuff.
Write on, anon.

I should probably get a name at some point if I want to keep posting.

Anyways, here's the (small) collection of stories I've written so far. All giantess based, all gentle (some gentle femdom).

http://pastebin.com/XER75jdJ

>>7237058
As a counter-counterpoint, I have noted that in everything I've read of Snek's but Grave Goods (and this to a lesser extent), the female characters he writes always seem to fall into the types of either full-fledged amazons or weirdly manipulative gentle femdom types. He's been getting better at making them three-dimensional, but saying "it's part of their species" just makes it clear he's made a Planet of Hats. Nature can influence personality, but it is not and never will be the only relevant factor. Even the drow had D'rizzt to prove they weren't all backstabbing lunatics with a spider fetish, after all.

Seriously, when everyone in a species can be classified into one of two possible stereotypes with only superficial signs of individuality, something is very wrong. And if they were meant mainly to convey the fetish-well, why bother worldbuilding for them at all when all the subtleties play second fiddle for the femdom kink?

While snek did say
>Well that was the idea, to an extent. She's a Borealan, she can't suppress her nature no matter how many books she reads. She's a giant space monster full of rape hormones who has evolved to fight and fuck

I got the impression Liz simply wasn't trying hard enough to resist those natural tendencies. That could've been a good plot point, having her struggle between nature and nurture in earnest instead of spontaneously shifting to rapecat mode.

Me, I think perhaps he should push himself to try and write an antinomian Borealean who actually prefers being submissive or actively fights against their cultural traditions. But that might just be my general disgust towards the fixation on dominance and submission seen in smut in general. Why can't there be more works where both partners are equal in all ways?

>>7237063
Their ease of use is identical, so I for one would prefer we use the one that's not abandoned. Heck, I'm the IRC channel's mod and even I can barely remember the thing exists.

I'm creating a random sex scene prompt generator using Ortiel's Randomgen tool. It's pretty incomplete still but it can generate vaguely interesting scenes. The biggest difficulty is making sure it doesn't generate something that requires more hands/mouths/penises/vaginas/assholes/etc than are present which means i'm still working on all the basic combinations possible.

Example outputs.

>Female/Female: Cunnilingus while the giving partner performs Vaginal masturbation with fisting and the receiving partner performs Anal masturbation with a vibrator. Mutual breast sucking. Anal masturbation with anal beads alongside Anal penetration with a dildo.

>Female: Self breast sucking. Anal masturbation with a buttplug. Vaginal masturbation with fingers. Vaginal masturbation with fisting and Anal masturbation with anal beads.

>Futanari/Futanari: Vaginal penetration with fisting alongside Vaginal with a magic wand. Penis masturbation with two hands and Anal masturbation with fingers. Self breast sucking. . Breast docking.

Hopefully this tool should be of use to someone.

>>7237058
While I agree that maintaining control on one's own work is important, right now, there is barely any exploration at all. Cardboard cutout after cardboard cutout. Turning those in real characters by giving them a personality beyond "racial basics" would be a major improvement in storytelling without harming the porn in the slightest.

>>7236931
>Could there be a quiet Klingon somewhere who hates fighting and just wants to become a ballet dancer?
I'd actually read the shit out of that

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You know, nothing is stopping you from writing your own Borelean fanfics, gang. That's what the thread is all about.

>>7237085
>the female characters he writes always seem to fall into the types of either full-fledged amazons or weirdly manipulative gentle femdom types
Kaisha from purple heart doesn't particularly seem to fall into either of those types, at least, and runt from Outpost doesn't either (which is probably why everyone's so gay for him). Zagza is exactly the maledom stereotype that snek's femdom stereotypes imitate, though

>>7237085
>I think Snek should write this thing he's not interested in!

>>7237109
That's how you improve your writing.

>>7236997
I get what people want, and why they want it, some people just don't like femdom and want some vanilla content, which is fine. I don't think anyone will deny that I provided elements of that here. What I don't understand is why they want it from these specific characters.

To use /tg/ parlance, let's say I made a name for myself writing Dark Eldar torture porn. One day a guy comes to me and he says "I want you to write a story about a Dark Eldar who doesn't like torturing people and she has a vanilla relationship with a captive."
Is that conceptually bad? No. But why use Dark Eldar when it goes against everything they were designed to be? Wouldn't a vanilla romance be better told in almost any other imaginable scenario?

That just doesn't make sense to me. Of course I'm flattered that people come to me with requests at all, and I would write every last one if I had the time, but I have to pick my battles.

>>7237039
But growing as a writer shouldn't mean that I have to write things that make no sense contextually. I can write other stories with characters better suited to the role rather than diluting Borealans so they can play a role they were never designed for.

>>7237085
But that's not what they are. That's not why I made them. If I write a story about a Borealan who acts nothing like a Borealan then why have them in the story at all? What's the point if they're completely interchangeable?
I don't think it's fair to call them stereotypes when I built a whole culture and biology to justify the way they act.

There can be more vanilla works, but not from the rapecats, is what I'm trying to say.

>>7237120
Not at all. Writing things you don't like and have no interest in doesn't make you a better writer. That isn't challenging yourself to write in new styles or to broaden your horizons, it's just masochism.
By that logic writing scat or NTR would be a productive exercise.

>>7237100
Whenever people do Snek shitposts about how they are narutard garbage and how he's trying to c&d them.

>>7237135
>the guy didn't give snek credit and tried claiming Snek had no rights to the his own creations

>>7237133
You're fixated on your perception of what people are arguing for rather than what they actually are, ergo talking with you is impossible.
Have fun continuing to misrepresent and misinterpret every argument people give for how to diversify and expand your characters without losing the core values you cry so much about.

>>7237120
It...really isn't. Becoming a good writer means keeping to a good schedule, mastering sentence structure and pacing, expanding your vocabulary, studying writers you look up to and really examining their (and your!) style.

Absolutely none of this involves 'hey, take your femdom fetish cats and write something that doesn't fit that.' That's just what you guys want. Which is why I said, go ahead and write your own Borelean fanfiction.

>>7237135
Which is why you say Boreleans are Snek's, and this is your fanfiction. Fanfiction isn't illegal, otherwise websites devoted to it would not be easily accessible and also exist. Remember when Blizzard tried to stop Overwatch porn?

Do you have a hard time finding Tracer's tits?

Didn't think so.

>>7237133
>Not at all. Writing things you don't like and have no interest in doesn't make you a better writer.

Yes it does. It makes you think outside of your box and consider things from a different angle; something you don't get from writing the same thing over and over again.

Pushing yourself to write something different it the surest way to actually improve.

>>7237162
>WRITE NON-RAPEY RAPE CATS YOU MADE FOR THE SOLE PURPOSE OF FEMDOM! WE DON'T LIKE IT! IT'LL HELP YOU IMPROVE!

I knew there were about a dozen autistics in here, but please. He said he just doesn't want Boreleans to do that. Give the fucker some time to write something else, you mouthbreathers.

>>7237133
>But why use Dark Eldar when it goes against everything they were designed to be? Wouldn't a vanilla romance be better told in almost any other imaginable scenario?

An excellent question.

From my perspective, the fact that it IS such an aberration is in itself a point of appeal; it gives oneself and one's readers to see what an exception to the rule might be like. Having it pointed out within the fic how bizarre that kind of thing is could also open up new avenues for conflict- from disapproving third parties, from the participants as they try to reconcile heir feelings with what their culture and instincts tell them to do, and so on.

For example, how would that Dark Eldar be able to keep her inclinations from being publicly known? I could imagine a few answers, which would all be internally consistent with both the character and the Dark Eldar as a whole (e.g. she figures it's better to be loved as well as feared by her captives and rationalizes the vanilla aspects away as just being secure around someone who knows better than to betray her).

>Not at all. Writing things you don't like and have no interest in doesn't make you a better writer. That isn't challenging yourself to write in new styles or to broaden your horizons, it's just masochism.
By that logic writing scat or NTR would be a productive exercise.

I disagree about it not being productive. Despite not liking anal in any form, I still managed to make Noblisse Oblige and can say that if nothing else I learned how to do it. Think of it as a writing exercise; you never have to go back to the topic again, but it's proof that you aren't just incapable of it.

>>7237168
Whiteknight harder, bro'! That will definitely help him improve.

>>7237188
I'm not even defending his writing, I think 'femdom' is boring and often misunderstood when many people actually just want 'sexually assertive female who would love my weak ass'.

The guy just said Boreleans will never be what you guys are dying to make of them, and others are suggesting you get what you want via fanfiction. The points have basically been made.

That, and writing scat only makes you better at writing scat. He could improve in a million ways that don't involve making the waifu you people seem to deeply desire.

>>7237168
Holy shit you fucking sycophant.
Stop sucking sneks self righteous dick for one minute and listen.
The point was never to fucking cut out the femdom aspect, it was to adapt and make a new angle on it close to some GFD thing than fucking 1-dimensional every character is the same rapecats.

And all snek does with every suggestion on how to improve and individualize his characters is met with a tantrum about how he can't write more than ONE FUCKING VERSION OF FEMDOM FOR AN ENTIRE FUCKING SPECIES or it will DESTROY THE HOLY AND PURE CONCEPT.
Sprinkle typical sci-fi writer fallacies such as "it's just biology" around, rince, repeat.
Literally.

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>>7237135
If people write bad stories without permission and put them online without crediting me, damn straight I'm gonna c&d them.

I wrote the Tourist Guide primarily as a reference to facilitate guest stories. I just want to be credited and given a rundown so I can make sure it isn't 'narutard garbage'.

>>7237162
Something different doesn't mean something the author doesn't like. I've not written 'only' femdom, I've done lesbians, traps, gay, vanilla, maledom, writing something I have no enthusiasm for and won't enjoy is not productive and is a poor use of my time.

>>7237179
Maybe it's just a difference of opinion then, because I don't see the point in that. I would much rather make a new species that caters to your tastes than undermine an existing one. But again that's something that takes time.

>>7237200
Actually two types of femdom for two species.
If you wanted a violent Polar I would be equally opposed to the idea.

just curious but is Parallax still here? Just wanted to make sure

>>7237197
I don't know about the other faggots in here, but all I'm demanding is that he get his head out of his ass and learn to write more than one personality without writing an entire new species to do it.
Doesn't even have to break the monolithic "core concept" of femdom to do it, although snek very much believes he would have to.

>>7237210
>Writing something I have no enthusiasm for and won't enjoy is not productive and is a poor use of my time.

It really wouldn't be. Too bad you just cannot see that.

>>7237224
He doesn't even have to write outside of his fetishes; he refuses to even CONSIDER writing a different STYLE of fendom and that's what pisses me off to no end.
It's an excuse for intellectual laziness, for being able to bang out hundreds of thousands of words and only ever write one story.

>>7237210
>Maybe it's just a difference of opinion then, because I don't see the point in that. I would much rather make a new species that caters to your tastes than undermine an existing one. But again that's something that takes time.

Perhaps. But at least in my opinion, the exceptions tend to be more interesting to write than the rule. It doesn't undermine the species so much as show how much effort it takes to overcome those inherent tendencies, all while driving home exactly how deviant the aforementioned exceptions really are. If anything, it would make their depiction more vivid by establishing what happens to those who don't fit in.

They can be the exception that proves the rule, if you will.

>>7237210
>writing something I have no enthusiasm for and won't enjoy is not productive and is a poor use of my time.
Well, yes and no. It'd certainly be a challenge, and that in and of itself would help you improve as a writer. Doubly so if you make something people enjoy even if you don't.

I agree with you, btw. Just playin' Devil's advocate.

>>7237216
Relax man, he'll post when he has something to post

>>7237200
Explain how writing certain types of characters that are a specific species will help someone grow as a writer as opposed to any other species/race. 99.99% of the point of every sci-fi species ever invented was to make them wear a particular hat as it simplified/solidified the portrayal of a specific type of character by having them also be a unique species. Writing/portraying one type of character = make them one species. Writing another, make them a different species. Same reason why the terms white and black hat exist in the first place.


You're also conflating your personal desire to see a one or more particular types of portrayal of one particular species with the first issue. At least have the intellectual honesty to separate those things.

Wanting him to branch out to other topics, characters and so on for the purposes of growth is one thing. Wanting specifically one species shown a different way is entirely unrelated.

If you're ready to be honest with your aguments you could present it as a suggestion for a way for him to improve as a writer by tackling how different personalities of rapecats would handle situations, but this can also be applied to other species wearing a certain hat. Maybe he could instead write that kind of thing about another species and still tackle personality variations that go against the norm of species x. It doesn't have to be about borealans any more than it has to be about some other species. Trying to shut down someone's personal preference and claiming it's "I'm just trying to help him" is unadulterated bullshit and you trying to hide being a demanding prick.

Criticize him all you want for whatever you want, but you may want to also stop sucking your own dick long enough to present an honest argument in the process rather than childishly masquerading your whines of "But I want my preferred flavor of rapecat"

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>>7237243
I do see the appeal and I understand what people want, but I'm just not able to crank it out fast enough.
I could make the Brokers conform to everything these guys want and tick every box, but my commission queue and backlog puts that months away.
I need a team of writers to produce more stories, and an editor, and a secretary to handle all the fucking emails I get lol.

>>7237257
Well there's always that.

It would be cheaper to hire someone with a whip, though.

>>7237257
That's not what I meant.

It's hard for me to put this particular issue in words beyond what I've already said, but I'll try by asking you this: why should every member of a given species act almost exactly the same way and have identical turn-ons and turn-offs?

Having a race that's 100% vanilla all the time is just as uninteresting to read about after the first fic they appear in since you can predict everything that will happen in a story with that species. You need to write them as individuals first and foremost- biology and culture aren't destiny, after all. Thier species doesn't have to lose their core concept, it just has to be toned down just enough to allow for individuality to show through.

I think kinda the issue here is that lots more folk like the idea of amazonian space catgirls in general, and the physical form of snek's equatorial borleans than like the very particular sort of amazonian space violent femdom catgirls that the equatorials are to snek. I think the prompt sometime last month about borleans from other cultures than the one we've seen so far (since snek did specify that the culture we've seen so far was just one civilization on borleas, even among the ethnic equatorials) is a good way for these requests and ideas to be worked while preserving snek's original intent for the Elysian equatorials

>>7237256
>Explain how writing certain types of characters that are a specific species will help someone grow as a writer as opposed to any other species/race.
because 'hat' typing is shit writing for one, and doesn't deserve to be defended by you as if it were some sort of axiom. Also in most cases where that's done (eg, star trek) you only have one member of a race given any exposure at all, so the inherent narrative problems with 'hat' typing don't come into play until someone down the line has to write a different character.
Snek's problem is that he got a bunch of commissions for the species on the assumption that there was enough character variety within the species to have a few different types of femdom cats to read about.

>You're also conflating your personal desire to see a one or more particular types of portrayal of one particular species with the first issue.
guess what, I was about to post to snek about how if he absolutely insists on only ever writing one personality to a species then he should only ever write one story to a species, per the above example of how 'hat' species are made do with.
If he refuses to even write varieties of femdom for his femdom monsters, then make more femdom monsters so he can escape the self-imposed mental shackles and write something new.

>"But I want my preferred flavor of rapecat"
He presented himself as a femdom author and then reveals that he is mentally incapable of writing more than one niche of femdom per entire setting that he creates.
It's like going into a fruit market wanting to make a fruit bowl; you're not going to try and buy cabbages or corn but you damn well are going to get some different fruits.
But then the vendors have nothing but bananas, and when you ask them why they don't have anything else they get really defensive and tell you that SIR THIS IS A FRUIT MARKET OF COURSE WE SERVE ONLY BANANAS, while directing you to a market across town that serves 'sweet vegetables'.

>>7237267
But I gave them such a strong biological compulsion to behave the way they do, it's not culture or personality, it's the way they're programmed.
From my perspective it's like asking for dogs that don't bark, it goes against their nature.

Y'all motherfuckers need to learn the secret to getting Snek to try new shit.

Your request/commission needs to be believable and make sense. You can't just have a nonrape rapecat just because, you need to have a believable reason for it to exist.

Example: Commission research logs about the progress of a UNN behavioral therapy program to have new recruits be less rapey. Show some failures, show some progress, outline how they do it, excerpts from the voice logs of the lucky marine volunteers, stuff like that. Make it believable and see what Snek thinks of it.

>>7237273
Yeah, because we all know that biological compulsions are absolute and universal. That's why all women are baby crazy and all men are dominant and polyamorous. I do so enjoy how sexuality and personalities are fixed within populations and nobody enjoys taboo for its own sake.

>>7237256
>>7237272
my shitty analogy aside, my main frustration with snek is that he writes so much backstory and worldbuilding and then reveals that apparently NONE OF IT FUCKING MATTERS and it has all the importance in the creative process as a a bunch of cardboard props.

this gets back to the /tg/ mindset vs /d/ mindset that people brought up earlier; I can't stand to see such a blatant waste of writing like that. It WOULDN'T be a problem if it was a oneshot thing about rapecats and the setting didn't need to be or try to be more than backdrop, but Snek has WORKED to build a cohesive setting and that strikes me as being cognitively dissonant to the whole "lol everything only exists to justify porn"
If that was all that matters then he should cut his writing by tens of thousands of words and skip the worldbuilding and setup alltogether; it doesn't matter in the long run so why does he fucking bother?

>>7237273
hey, hey, idea:

FUCKING CHANGE IT.

You're the author, you control the setting. If one of your ideas is fucking with your ability to write more than one goddamn character to a species then CHANGE YOUR GODDAMN SPECIES.
It's not even something that would break the existing setting by doing; if you shift the dogmatic behavior more toward the culture side and away from the biology side then NOTHING changes with your existing works but you open yourself up to the possibility of writing different varieties of STILL FEMDOM cats.

>>7237273
>From my perspective it's like asking for dogs that don't bark, it goes against their nature.

At the risk of seeming more pedantic than usual, I'd like to point out that there are in fact several breeds of dogs that don't bark at all. But that's beside the point.

The real point is that there's no reason why they should be completely unable to resist those instincts. They may be a powerful urge that's difficult to overcome entirely, but it's nowhere near as powerful as you imagine it to be.

They have free will like humans ostensibly do, don't they? If so, that means that they can choose to dial back their instincts or outright suppress them. It doesn't even need to be show as being successful; I could cook up a vague plot about one who fears that she might hurt her lover by accident because of those instincts and tries to dial them back as much as possible even as he reassures her that her fears are unsound. The most important part is that you show that they're more than just slaves to their instincts; that's the first step on making them into full, three-dimensional characters.

>>7237273

Growing up, my neighbor had a super quiet malamute who never barked unless someone was arguing in front of him. That dog was awesome and they didn't use a leash on him because he was so damn chill and obedient.

Thanks a lot Snek, now I miss that dog. :c

Come on, just let snek write what snek wants to write.

>>7237302
better idea, how about he actually listens to people instead of throwing up a smokescreen of half-assed justifications while acting like a prima donna

>>7237307
When I was a kid, I always heard "prima donna" as pre-Madonna. It was a bit of a letdown the first time I saw it in print. My version is way scarier.

>>7237307

See:

>>7237276

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>>7236018
90% sure that's a femanon, so 17 wouldn't be too surprising if she wasn't in the habit of schlicking or hadn't figured out how to do it properly yet. I know a lot of women who don't know how to orgasm or how vaginas work in general.

>mfw seeing middle aged women who have no idea where their urethra is and think they piss through their vagina
>mfw reading that case study about the old woman who let her husband fuck her urethra for 40+ years because neither of them knew which hole was the right one

>>7237282
My thoughts exactly. There's no point in worldbuilding when all of it can and will be thrown away the moment the smut begins. If you want to make a steak, don't cook the whole cow to do so. All you need to justify smut is a couple of paragraphs at the absolute most to explain who the characters are and why they're fucking.

>>7237312
Not all of us can afford to throw money at Snek just to make him consider a suggestion. Besides, it doesn't sound like anyone objecting here including myself actually wants something like that.

I know for me that it defeats the purpose since it comes off as little more than brainwashing. You're not teaching them to actually control themselves, you're just conditioning them like dumb animals, thus reinforcing the "they can only rape unless constantly controlled or watched" bullshit.

>>7237276
>Your request/commission needs to be believable and make sense. You can't just have a nonrape rapecat just because, you need to have a believable reason for it to exist.

This is what Worlds Apart was SUPPOSED to be, same with your example. Being wholly immersed in a culture during your formative years is the greatest 'training' there can be but it's all brushed away because somewhere along the line Snek decided that the Cats are at the core feral slaves to their programmed instinct and always revert to it in the end no matter what. Moreover, he doesn't even consider the possibility that this might have been a self-restricting mistake and that it can be changed without altering the other desirable facets of the civilization he's written up.

The next part of A Troublesome Inheritance is up. 1600 words to round out what I'm calling the first chapter. New stuff starts with " As Gisette untied his feet"

http://pastebin.com/6kwwcQ3g
Tags: Futa, Futa-on-male, Hyper, Multi, Excessive Cum, Non-con, Bondage, Forced Ejacualtion

I feel like I want to continue this story, but I think I've gone about as far as I can with it staying all-sex, all-the-time. I need to roll in a little plot if I'm going to go forwards. I want to keep the tone of the story (Bad, but sexy things keep happening to the MC), so maybe something like another maid trying to blackmail him with pictures of him covered in cum.

>>7237216
I'm here, but I have a full time job, so during the week I only work on stories when I can find the time, and only on what I'm immediately inspired on. On the weekend it's a bit easier to find a block of time to sit down and work on writing smut.

Also, I was trying to keep my head down during the arguments over Snekguy's stories. No offense to Snekguy, but he's the big fish in this pond. If I post my stuff while the thread's embroiled in discussion of his work, my story will get lost in the shuffle (and I don't get much C&C on a quiet day).

>>7237318

Note that I specifically left out how the research concludes, it could very much end in complete failure outside of a fluke or two with a lot "unsuccessful attempts" along the way. And this is behavioural therapy, not conditioning. Huge difference!

Also, requests work fine too, I just defaulted to saying commission as I'm used to doing that with him. The point of that example is just to show you how you can get him to try something new that he otherwise wouldn't, you'd of course try something more to your tastes. Snek is really flexible so long as you make your idea sound believable.

>>7237256
>If you're ready to be honest with your aguments you could present it as a suggestion for a way for him to improve as a writer by tackling how different personalities of rapecats would handle situations

a few possible varieties that still conform to "Dominant and Aggressive"

cat that likes beating people and then riding them into the ground while they are helpless (this is the default cat)

cat that likes conflict but doesn't like that the loser just rolls over and takes it after, preferring continued hopeless but good natured struggle. Also good build point for a human who doesn't just go ahego-tier when jumped.

lazy noble cat who is strong but only enjoys tough oppponets and so acts relitive passive; still commanding and dominant but does not exert themselves frivolously, mostly commands a partner with legs and tail during sex.

spry and young but weak cat that picks more fights than normal (perhaps with some deep motivation for wanting to climb the power ladder) and is perpetually frustrated from being unable to win. Human relations might have a marine fall in love and 'lose' to the "madcat" so cat can be happy satisfying their dominance for once.

mid-adult cat that has stabalized in their position on the 'ladder' and thus spends their time bopping upstarts who try to fight them and engaging in various sports when not being commanded to do things.
This would give a way to show show sports and activities, and maybe add character depth in that the character might be actively abstaining from the 'general' dominance ladder in favor of dominanting people in physical and aggressive but not visible and socially effecting competitions.
Room for plenty of characters in this area.

For the late-timeline, you might have an upper-class cat that enjoys traveling the now at peace galaxy experiencing (and proving themself stronger than) many different cultures and races. The Patriarch of the original time was already a cosmopolitan, so there's precedent.

>>7237332
Thing is that I don't have anything specific in mind so much as a request to be just a little less narrow-minded in thinking that instinct is all-powerful.

And see>>7237322; the setup there was exactly the right one for what so many people were asking for. All he needs to do is rewrite the end and he'd never have me or anyone else bug him about this ever again.

The way it is now, I'm not surprised some people interpret it as a betrayal of what was promised.

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>>7237282
Is there no room for someting in between though? Does it have to be "they only exist to be rapecats and are physically incapable of an alternative" vs "they are blank sheets of paper that just happen to have a certain appearance and their personalities can be anything at all". People keep giving him shit for the characters being one-dimensional when it's very clear that they are distinctly varied, just not on 100% of the spectrum of personalities. Everything from the professional soldiers and workers who do keep their libidos in check to full on violent, traumatic rape cats, snuggly femdom cats and so on. Can you honestly claim that Liz is functionally identical to Raz or Azi? If your beef is that they're not varied enough or don't span a wide enough gamut of different types of characters then point that out instead. To say that they're all the same of that he never writes anything other than one particular brand is just factually untrue and undermines the real argument you're making.

As for the hats I will defend them. Tropes exist for a reason and they are not inherently good nor bad. They're tools and they can serve a purpose, for better or worse. There are finite amounts of time to write as well as a finite amount of gratuitous exposition that readers of porn are willing to put up with. A balance has to be struck at some point on where to spend time/words and a hat as one of the shortcuts used can be very helpful for setting the tone and establishing context without having to repeat the full process for every single piece of writing. It only becomes a problem in my opinion if the hat is a go-to crutch or the only tool used.

Maybe he has a problem with variety and needs to work on expanding, but personally I don't think that can be conclusively said with any degree of certainty yet. He hasn't been around for that long and while the number of fics is growing we don't exactly have a particularly dataset to work with. tbc...

>>7237331

ah ok just wanted to make sure you didn't disappear on us again

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>>7237341
cont.

That, plus the fact that a lot of what he's writing lately are specifically comissioned or requests means we can't take him writing specific things that have been asked and then using those as arguments against him. If he churns out a dozen personal projects and they're all the same shit then I'll be right there with you to jump on him and complain, but so far none of the main cats shown have felt like replicas of the others so much as they've been variations on a theme which presumably is exactly what he set out to create in the first place. When he runs out of variations on the theme and still keeps going with it then I'll agree there's a problem.

What I'm getting at is that ultimately this is porn and at least started as porn about femdom. I like more than just femdom and it'd be nice to see more, but we've also gotten, as mentioned, some lesbian stuff, gay stuff and a couple other things. I'm not going to go into a steakhouse and throw a tantrum about there not being any vegetarian options. I'll voice concerns if the only thing served is well-done ribeyes, but I disagree that that's become an issue at this point. I'm open to hearing dissenting voices on that, however, and it's probably a lot more productive if we keep the subject roughly in that ballpark.

>>7237296
>>7237318
The problem with that is that if they're able to resist their instincts, that makes them callous rapists and not sympathetic or likable at all.
I realize they may come across that way already to people who aren't into femdom, but that's very much a component of the fetish for me.

They should be overcome by desire in the moment, rather than being sexual predators that wander around looking for victims. That's a lot less justifiable and I freely admit my own bias there. It's just what I'm into, and part of the reason I created them.

>Not all of us can afford to throw money at Snek just to make him consider a suggestion.

But this was made up of requests, this was me considering suggestions and trying to implement them. I had a Borealan who was shorter than a human in a vanilla relationship, those were requests people made, along with the masturbation thing and the biting thing, the role reversal, I'm doing my best here.

I don't think it's fair to imply you have to pay me when eight of my nineteen stories so far have been requests I did for free, many of them of significant length.

>>7237322
In my defense I tried, I only realized people didn't like that aspect after I had already finished writing and it was too late to make changes.

>>7237332
I wouldn't call someone who only ever writes the same fetishes and doesn't heed criticism flexible. You approached him with a commission to write a story that co-aligns with his taste, in his own setting. That he is willing to work with your request does not make him flexible, simply not obscenely narrow-minded.

>>7237351

I got him to write a gay scene after he flat out told me no in the beginning, and he went on to turn half the thread gay from how good it was, and with his first time writing one at that. I'm pretty sure he's allowed to be called flexible.

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>>7237340
>I'm not surprised some people interpret it as a betrayal of what was promised.

That's just not fair, I didn't realize anyone had a problem until the last update was posted, and I have to start my next commission tomorrow. I don't have time to rewrite a 30,000 word story.
Nothing was 'promised' to anyone, I tried to write a story based on the requests various people made and some didn't like the ending.

>>7237351
There are examples in every single thread of him taking criticisms to heart and he has already agreed to alter world's apart based on input from several people in this exact thread. See >>7235870 >>7236009 >>7236014. Not letting every single jackass with a snowflake idea dictate every single thing he writes does not make someone inflexible.


As for "only ever writes the same fetishes" I can only assume you haven't actually read what he's written.

>>7237345
>The problem with that is that if they're able to resist their instincts, that makes them callous rapists and not sympathetic or likable at all.
Not at all. If violent and forceful sex is the norm within their society then within their society it won't be seen or considered as rape at all.
The conflict comes when they are exposed to outside societies, but like you've said people will see them as callous rapists even if it's "just their nature" so making it inborn only serves to lock you in a narrative corner and comes off as an authoritative demand for Borealans to be sympathetic because "they just can't help it" rather than any attempt to make them sympathetic through the writing itself and showing an ability to change and adapt to culture clash without losing their 'natural' traits.

>>7237345
There's no functional difference between being unable to resist one's desires because your culture told you it was OK and even desirable and being unable to resist your instincts because you are forever mentally subhuman and unable to function as a sapient creature.
at risk of /pol/, you can see this shit in humanity.

the only change is that the first category can be developed and the second never can.

You're also taking a stupidly authoritative stance when you claim that only "people who aren't into femdom" would see things this way and I deeply resent how you try to categorize anyone disagreeing with you as an outgroup to be ignored.
Femdom is more than rape monsters.

>>7237366
>showing an ability to change and adapt to culture clash without losing their 'natural' traits.

That's been a common theme in many of the stories though, Raz holding off on raping Stanley then having consensual sex with him, Liz coming back from Borealis to be with Jamie, etc

>>7237345
>They should be overcome by desire in the moment, rather than being sexual predators that wander around looking for victims. That's a lot less justifiable and I freely admit my own bias there. It's just what I'm into, and part of the reason I created them.

Then consider depicting one who regrets acting like that instead of reveling in it as if there's nothing wrong with acting on impulse.

If anything, showing them being able to resist those instincts would make them more sympathetic and likeable as opposed to being little more than talking cats which are always in heat.

>>7237357
I don't know about you, but to me it sounded like following the letter of the request while ignoring the spirit when it became convenient to do so.

>That's just not fair, I didn't realize anyone had a problem until the last update was posted, and I have to start my next commission tomorrow. I don't have time to rewrite a 30,000 word story.

Life isn't fair, either.

But you don't have to rewrite it this second, as long as you do it eventually. Right now you just need to admit you misinterpreted what people wanted and promise to fix it when your commission is dealt with. The worst possible thing you can do is what you're doing now and try to make it seem like you're the victim.

>>7237366
I always thought that if it was "just their nature", the UNN wouldn't even bother employing them along normal troops. They'd be little more than a weapon to point in the general direction of the enemy, then be kept sedated or restrained until the next time they're needed.

The logic they'd use for it is "if they can't be trusted to not act like wild animals, they ought to be treated like wild animals".

>>7237383
Note that Raz had already raped him earlier at that time, and Jamie had never shown the slightest inclination to act as aggressively as she did. They're still slaves to their instincts and show no inclination to consider that what they're doing is wrong, culture be damned.

>>7237381
I thought I was quite specific that I was talking only about what I'm personally into.

>Femdom is more than rape monsters.
Yeah, like Polars for example, who never rape anyone. I made this race FOR THE EXPRESS PURPOSE of being rape monsters. That's the whole point, that's why they exist at all, their entire being and culture and history exists to facilitate them being monsters that like to rape.

>>7237364
Acknowledging criticism is not the same as taking it to heart. He has been receiving the exact same feedback about flat, often irrational characters since his very first story. There is a certain difficulty in correcting these kinds of issues, but I have seen absolutely no attempt to correct this in any of what I've read. To his credit, he is willing to discuss plot points and alter them as he writes. I haven't seen many authors willing to do so. That is as far as I'll go.

I've read at least most of all of his finished stories. Of his current lineup on the master smut list, he has one story that is not femdom featuring a bland male and generically dominant female. I'll admit that I stopped reading his stories, as I have found them frustrating.

>>7237383
That's another major part of why I'm so incised that he's claiming "it's written in their genes, they can never change"
because it directly contradicts his earlier work and comes off as him just spouting angrily in an emotional reaction to people making a complaint about his work and the transformation of Liz and her NOT having any of those qualities.

Pastebin seems like a really bad way to be sharing all these great stories. The need to manually catalogue works is bad. The tagging is bad, impossible to search for >1 tag at a time and also far from comprehensive. Often outright incorrect.

Much better would be a booru of sorts, specifically for erotic original fiction. Tagging would work better. Catalogueing would be automatic. The only issue is that AFAIK all boorus currently only work via images.

Hydrus (http://hydrusnetwork.github.io/hydrus/) could work. It doesn't accept .txt at the moment but it can accept .pdf. Development is active so it's likely we could get .txt added if requested.

Kinda feel like there is a bit of unjustified rage flying around this thread. Snek's story didn't fit everyone's taste perfectly but was still pretty good imo.

I didn't get into Outpost all that much, but I wasn't compelled to cry out on how terrible it is to have gay stuff popping up in story.

Chill peoples, let the smut flow through you, drop silly requests or what not.

Also snek4 u cheeky bugger dont tease me

>drama

we were kinda overdue for this, things had been too quiet as of late.

>>7235447
I really liked this one, but i wish that it whould have been bit longer and less smut really liked the characters. Whould like to see more possive characters from you.

>>7237401
Inertia and lack of centralization make a wholesale changeover essentially impossible. While I don't disagree that pastebin is far from ideal, nearly our entire catalog currently resides there. Moreover, most of us simply don't have the time to take on such a change. I'm pretty sure that the only person who actually has enough free time to do something like that is Snek, and he's too busy drowning himself in commissions and requests. We've also always been terrible at large-scale coordination. It's just part of the territory when you're smut writers on an anonymous image board. I don't know if you were around at the time, but it took us months to consolidate after the move. We also haven't successfully managed to organize even a single smut-off or collaborative event in more than a year.

That being said, if you're willing and have the time to put into working out the logistics, I'm sure that many of us would be willing to give a new system a shot.

>>7237415
I assume nobody would complain if I start copying pastebin stuff over to anywhere?

>>7237403
>Snek's story didn't fit everyone's taste perfectly
that's not what it's about and you damn well know it. You don't need to play personal defense force for him and it frankly just undermines him to have you spineless idiots fawning about how he can never be criticized.
why?
are you afraid that if you do anything but praise him he'll leave and take his smut with him?

>>7237393
The problem is that you fought the problem of them being a stereotype by making a completely different stereotype. It's literally the same problem.

Just stop acting as if the whole species must act the same way. It's BAD WRITING, no matter what the circumstances.

>>7237401
You'd have to tag it either way since the system can't possibly just assign them without being able to read the documents and also understanding what's in them, so that would be a waste of time and effort. Arguably, it would be more effort to port everything over there than to just use the list.

If you're worried about logistics (and I'm positive you're the only person here who is), how about jumping onto the list and making sure all the links still work and the formatting is right? I swear I'm the only one who cares enough to actually add shit that's not spam or vandalism to it, and I'm not going to be able to keep it going on my own forever.

>>7237417
I would have done that already if I wasn't a lazy piece of shit.
Copying all the existing stories would also prove a good backup in the even that pastebin goes down or the list is targeted with malicious reports (which has happened before)

>>7237417
it won't matter if no one stops using pastebin anyways to post stuff.

>>7237417
So long as you didn't do anything crazy and start monetizing other people's work or claim it's your own, I don't think any of us would care. Hell, most writers never even managed their own shit in the first place. AA used to maintain the master list entirely by himself and would do so without our explicit consent and there was never a problem.

>>7237391
>Then consider depicting one who regrets acting like that instead of reveling in it as if there's nothing wrong with acting on impulse.

Was literally Raz's character arc, first story I ever wrote about them.

>Life isn't fair, either.

Well no, your comments specifically aren't fair when I take a request on and put hundreds of hours of work into it, only for you to tell me to do it over as if this was a personal favor. You didn't employ me, I did it for fun, I have no obligation to do anything.

You're being very condescending for someone who expects free content and for authors to cater to your personal tastes.

>Note that Raz had already raped him earlier at that time

No she didn't. She never raped him. They had an encounter that stopped just short of rape, but their sex scenes were consensual.

>>7237424
>AA used to maintain the master list entirely by himself

I still maintain it entirely by myself for all respects and purposes. I had to switch the doc with the list to suggest mode for everyone other than me because shitters kept vandalizing it when I wasn't there to stop it.

And yes, it's fucking hard, especially since nobody bothers to actually add their stories to the list other than me. It's simply too big for me to handle on my own, and while I despise having to beg people to do what I'd hope they'd be doing already I really need the help.

>>7237420
If there's one thing I've learned in my life, it's that once you're "the guy who does that", you're stuck for life. Many of us do add our own stories, but we have so many transient writers that we couldn't possibly expect them all to do things "right" the first time. Most of us who have been around long enough to know the procedure don't write as much anymore, which means that the entire burden of managing the archive falls on the person dumb enough to be the first to volunteer (you). It's unfortunate, but that's just what happens.

It might not be a bad idea to just start replying to people who post stories and ask them to take care of their own shit. It'd be less time-consuming for you and I'm not entirely sure that everyone here actually cares about being archived anyway.

>>7237420
> I swear I'm the only one who cares enough to actually add shit that's not spam or vandalism to it, and I'm not going to be able to keep it going on my own forever.

Hence why at some point a replacement is needed. Anything that can act as a searchable catalogue and upload service works.

Even a mediawiki would work if you install this plugin: https://m.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Multi-Category_Search .

Miraheze can do that for free, ad-free and they are 100% ok with NSFW.... hmmm, that might be the best choice if a little unorthodox. It works for 1d4chan

>>7237357
>>7237345
The thing is snek, when people were throwing ideas about this story around, discussing it, nobody asked for the girl reverting to btrlean instincts on borleas. *not one person*. Snek, the reason everyone's beefing the second half and everyone likes the first half is that everybody asked for the first half, and nobody asked for the second half

>>7237417
>pastebin stuff
The stories or the list? Personally, I'm not sure if I'd want my stories copied anywhere by anyone else. The way it is now, I only post two places, and they're both places where I have control over my content. If I make edits to anything later, any copies I don't know about obviously won't get changed.

>>7237436
I'm sorry that some people didn't enjoy elements of it, and I have taken steps to address what criticisms I can in the limited time available.
Nobody gave me a script, I just tied the requests together in a way I thought people would enjoy, and many didn't, better luck next time.

>>7237429
why did Raz act like that then? why did she stop short, why did she agree to learn from Stanley? Why did she do anything that wasn't just forcing herself on him physically and in the structure of command?
This is why I consider your declaration that "it's all just in the blood" to be stupid, along with the reasons AA has explained better than I can.

Welp. Assuming no better idea comes up, I don't forget and I still care, tomorrow I shall make an attempt to create a miraheze wiki for erotic fiction (and not just for /d/ perhaps). I know reasonably well how to use the markup so I can get a nice homepage and the start of a category structure set up. I've also used Miraheze before.

Suggest wiki names, bearing in mind it might not be /d/ exclusive or even erotic exclusive. I know a few other threads that might benefit from this.

>>7237438

In that case the wiki shall just host links to the fic, until the author is ok with copying it over.

>>7237450
But Liz did exactly the same thing.
She resisted her urges and returned to Jamie. It just didn't happen in the way some people seem to have wanted it to.

>>7237448
look if you don't want to write anything but hard femdom and you don't want to expand to other topics then don't take requests outside of hard femdom.
you won't enjoy it, and you won't be able to write it in a way that is enjoyable to the audience otherwise.

Like, seriously, avoid soft femdom even if you're serious about your absolutism.

>>7237429
I admit, I remembered it wrong. It's been a while since I read that, and odds are I mixed it up with the first half of Purple Heart.

>>7237448
Everything I suggested doesn't need to be done right this second. You can always go back and add it later in between commissions, nobody's stopping you from doing so.

>>7237454
Ok then. I don't think I'd be cut out for being the guy who runs the wiki anyway. I already have enough on my plate between my RL job, my writing, and several other things I won't bother going into detail about because this isn't my blog- I don't think I can add "being our wiki's administrator so it doesn't get flooded with spambots and shiters" to the mix.

Just be sure to add everything to the google doc list as well, you'll need a cross-reference anyway just in case something happens to the wiki.

Honestly, some days I'm amazed I've lasted as long as I have. It's been what, at least 4 years now since this whole thing started as /wst/? Makes me feel like a fucking fossil some days.

>>7237459
So Spectral Bride, Hostage, Outpost, Seliphi's Prize and Grave Goods don't exist then?
Thanks for clearing that up.

>>7237461
Good thing about wikis is that not everyone involved has to do it full time. Even minor contributors are valuable.

Also you're not out of a job yet. I still got to sleep on the idea, and that is where a lot of ideas die.

>>7237257
>I could make the Brokers conform to everything these guys want and tick every box
Don't make a mangled concept out of spite.
If anything, just make sure that their core concept includes enough flexibility that you can write varied characters across their concept and avoid typecasting as much.
Personally I'll say again I think you could get a lot by pulling from dolphins if you want creatures that can be aquatic rape monsters but can also form very positive relationship depending on circumstances.
but that last bit may just be my interest in prehensile genitalia speaking, so feel free to ignore.

>>7237464

They do exist, it's pretty clear almost everyone in the argument only read a few stories and just assumed you never changed because you did rapecats being rapecats again on accident.

I think I need to commission something with both a polar and an equatorial together as the main characters so that even the people who only read your equatorial stuff can understand that your rapecats actually do have variety and that you are more than capable of doing non hard femdom things

>>7237476

Aren't the brokers going to be tentacle monsters? They'll be mangled no matter what.

Should the wiki have https://m.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:VoteNY to allow people to rate fics, or would this be pointless?

>>7237464
you're obviously too angry to think clearly, but I still feel compelled to respond.
I'm not saying you've never written outside of that or that you are literally incapable of it, I'm saying that you seem to resent writing requests outside your niche so you just shouldn't do that.

also, outpost was bad and incited a lot of similar comments on how you had typecasted all the polars into being identical props, as well as the sexual content being mostly "the same scene but turned at an angle" both in actions and wording.

>>7237465
If you change your mind on it, just request editing rights to the email address on the top of the list, I could use the help either way. If only to fight off the nagging feeling that I keep missing stuff.

And now I need to update Divine Love instead of acting like a crotchety old man for a change.

>>7237484
I don't think it would be a good idea. Too likely to lead to shitposting over votes.

>>7237483
I'd been imagining them looking something like the stereotypical mindflayer-"cthluhuminiod" image, only with a lot more tentacles here and there and more of a mammalian face, but I envisioned the Boraeliens as more or less Charr before I started to pay attention to the visual descriptions so my imagination has bit me once already.

>>7237481
>have him dispel one stereotype about the cats by bringing in the other stereotype instead

Fuck no. The polars suffer from the exact same "all of them act alike" problem, only with fake "loving" bullshit instead of being thugs. You'd be replacing one hat with another, when nobody wants the hats in the first place.

How about something whose personality isn't determined by its species for a change?

>>7237476
I'm genuinely trying to give everyone something to like, I'm not doing it out of spite.
I don't want the Brokers or the Krell to be femdom races. One species having a coincidental attraction to humans is ok, but several will break suspension of disbelief.

With the Brokers I was thinking maybe of having them be a bit deviant and that kind of plays into their mercantile culture. The rich and decadent are often portrayed as being sexual deviants with odd tastes. Maybe they'd offer humans (or other races) money to perform for their amusement or service them.

>>7237490
>outpost was bad

Both the bi and hetero versions of Outpost are among my highest scoring stories on Literotica and SOL, so I'm gonna disagree with you there.

4.85/5 on Literotica
7.61/10 on SOL

>>7237498


?????

Did you actually read anything in outpost? It was commissioned specifically to have polars who acted nothing like normal ones and each had their own personalities and unique behavior.

Jesus, there is so much retardation and ignorance in this thread right now.

>>7237512
see>>7237490

>>7237499
>literotica
>knowing anything about quality
top lel

>>7237499
>Both the bi and hetero versions of Outpost
ok I fucked up here and got outpost mixed up with Fineprint Pt 2 because I had misremembered it as having the subtitled of outpost or something similar.
apologies for that.

... I do think that you citing random ratings on fetish community sites has about as much meaning as somebody pulling the MAL rating for their favorite anime when trying to argue how good it is though.
Popularity is no indicator of quality.

>>7237499
Have you considered any stories with the human as the exotic one in a relationship? Humans seem pretty high up on the list of most advanced civilizations in your stories so I would assume that amongst the species encountered there must have been some cases of doe-eyed natives being smitten by the wondrous beings from the skies. Whether male or female (on either side of the equation), surely there's a few sexual rockstars picking up groupies wherever the jump freighters go.

>>7237516
>thinking a vocal minority of shitposters speak for the rest or that trolling and going "umad" is the epitome of wit

>>7237533
It's easy to claim that anyone not lauding you with praise is just a vocal minority isn't it?

>>7237525
Fineprint 2 is 4.75/5.

I mean you're talking in objective terms and I'm bringing up hard statistics to defend myself, 9,834 readers disagree with your assessment.
So yeah that puts you in the minority by a very large margin.

>>7237533
I hadn't actually, that's not a bad idea.

>>7237539
Considering the number of hits the stories get and the small handful of people who show up repeatedly and acting like they're some ultimate authority in the profession of being a porn connoisseur, yeah it's pretty easy to state an empirical fact.

There's some people here who actually understand the concept of constructive criticism, and then there's the core of shitposters who regurgitate the same debunked bullshit over and over and they are indeed a very tiny vocal minority.

>>7237533

You should read outpost, it is exactly that.

>>7237516

It's ok to admit you didn't read it and are literally making shit up, it can't get any worse from here

>>7237574
I've read it and I like what elements of that are in it, but it wasn't quite what I had in mind as the relationship there is for the most part a Schaffer/shoofa vs the polar family as far as "ooh, exotic hairless ape from the skies" go.

>>7237582

Fair point. I imagine your original idea will require polars either way, as equatorials are probably more interested in playing sudoku on the humans skin while raping him.

(Disclaimer for snek: I'm just kidding please don't kill me)

>>7237133
>>7237210
>>7237179
>From my perspective, the fact that it IS such an aberration is in itself a point of appeal
^ This.

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>>7237587
How can you say you love her if you won't let her write her name in your epidermis?

>>7237603
Writing names is too much. Bite scars are more than enough.
>it's easy to find humans that are inatmate with Borealans
>just lift up their shirt and find the giant ass scar from where their Borealan lover(s) bite them/claimed them

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>>7237610
>recruit! why are you covered in bite marks?

>>7237615
>"I was mauled by a tiger/lion/other big cat/etc"
that's actually a good in joke/euphemism people could use for having sex with a Borealan.

>>7237603
How can anyone know she loves me if they can't smell my blood on her? Seriously though, how about some more intense violent sex if it's not too extreme for your tastes? My penis needs some brav^h^h^h^hstupid human giving an inebriated kitty in a bar on the pinwheel a dunce slap to the back of the head while going "Fuck you, now fuck me and let's see what you got". It was severely disappointed when little miss cockblock secretary-kitty stopped the bathroom shenanigans a while back (Fineprint was it?) I wanna see what they've got when they're less restrained.

>>7235447
I'm a bit disappointed. I still think that one of the flaws of this story was making Liz fucking invincible cuz "super martial arts". Yeah, there's the whole justification that Borealis has no martial arts, but by the end of the story, it all felt WAY too optimistic for me.

There could had been a lot of room for development if you actually put Liz through a bit of suffering, being dominated, beaten, or something like before learning how to defend herself. I feel like her character development was too narrow and easy. I guess the other readers were expecting more too. She pretty much became an undefeated superwoman after moving to borealis, and that was pretty much all of it.

Also, I felt annoyed at how much of a beta Jaimie became, and how the second part of the story could be summed up to: "ME LIZ. YOU MINE. WE SNU SNU. YOU MOVE YOUR BETA ASS AND LIVE WITH ME AS A TROPHY HUSBAND"

>>7237621
As much as there would be almost no audience for that and I'd be able to post it pretty much nowhere, it would be extremely fun to write something seriously hardcore, and I'll do so when I have the free time.

>>7237652
I agree she could have used more development, that's mostly a time constraint, I wanted to keep it around 30k words as I'm due for a commission tomorrow.

>>7237659
Like I said, you can come back and revise it later so it does get the development it deserves. Nobody will complain.

Really, what do you have to lose from it?

>>7237674
Time.

>>7237684
And how does that prevent you from going back and doing revisions later? It'll take a couple of hours at most, probably less than half that time.

It's really not that big of a deal, I don't see why you don't just throw it in your backlog and deal with it when it's convenient.

>>7237693
'I don't have time to do this right now, or any time soon.'
'But it'll only take hours!'

AA, your spectrum is showing again. The guy has a lot on his plate already, he'll get to it when he has time.

>>7237659
I'm always worried that you will listen to some pretty bad ideas like this one.

>>7237659
>As much as there would be almost no audience for that and I'd be able to post it pretty much nowhere
I'm not sure I'm following you there.

>>7237490
>Umad
You really aren't trying are you?

>>7237704
Should specify.
Meant this.
>>7237652

>>7237652
>I feel like her character development was too narrow and easy. I guess the other readers were expecting more too. She pretty much became an undefeated superwoman after moving to borealis, and that was pretty much all of it.
I sure as fuck didn't want a sad dark rape victim recovery fic, and neither did anyone else involved in the brainstorming.
I will say that a lot of people suggested she should be a NEET/spend all her time with the human expats to minimize her fight exposure as much as possible.
Although, to borrow from another suggestion, her losing a fight but doing sufficient damage to the winner's genitals to disinterest them in rape would be a good halfway point. Perhaps he also decides to take the shit she's been saving to buy her ticket out

Actually, if it's OK with snek, I would be willing to take a crack at writing Liz's Adventures On Borleas, in line with the various anon's ideas, maybe as a collab with someone else who's interested in such a thing

Can you people talk about anything other than Snek and his writing? For fucks sakes, it's erotic fiction GENERAL not Snek's erotic fiction. Stop putting the man on a fucking pedestal

http://pastebin.com/XxiAz2Sy

Posting this again to see if anyone digs else it.

Werewolf x Thicc Half-Elf, pregnancy/impregnation, gangbang, knots, excessive cum

>>7237724
Other things are being talked about, just in proportion to the rate of which it's being produced. Snek appears to be hopped up on speed and writing nonstop, so people are responding to the frequent updates. He's also far from being put on a pedestal, just talked about a lot (both good and bad)

Feel free to the bring up whatever subjects you like. I'd love to see more /tg/ specific stories and discussions, but general interest in that appears to have shrunk considerably.

>>7237696
Right. I hate it when I make that part of me too obvious. Well, as long as he does it eventually I'll be content.

>>7237743
I think it's in part due to lack of demand. Nobody seems to ask for /tg/ related stories, ergo nobody shows interest in writing them. It's a vicious cycle- so be the change you want to create.

>Snek appears to be hopped up on speed and writing nonstop, so people are responding to the frequent updates

Actually, by his own admission it's because he's a NEET who doesn't do what most other people do and post updates only once per thread. I doubt that'll last for long, because commissions alone don't pay the bills.

....I'm be here waiting for more XCOM viper lewds fellow /d/eviants

>>7237693
I postponed two commissions to do Worlds Apart and I have a huge backlog. I don't have time (nor the desire) to do extensive rewrites, especially on a story that's not universally disliked, it's scoring well where I've posted it.

>>7237719
Sure that's fine by me.
If I like it I'll link to it on my sites if you want.

>>7237750
>commissions alone don't pay the bills.
You'd be surprised.

>>7237736
Hot.

>>7237750
If I were you I'd stay out of arguments about update frequency until you can produce more than one 500 word update every ten threads, matey.

>>7237755
I'll have the first 2000 words of my new Viper story out by tomorrow.

>>7237763
I forgot, is it the same viper or she a new one

>>7237756
Thanks, boo!

>>7237764
Same one.
The plot takes place mostly after the war where Vi and the lazily unnamed MC are trying to get his family's farm in working order.

The commissioner gave me tons of good ideas too, underwater sex with assisted breathing, microdoses of venom used as aphrodisiac, hide and go fuck, should be fun, and he set a target of 70,000 words.

>>7237765
I'll give you a more thorough review when I've had to time to """read it thoroughly""".

>>7237763
The heart of my penis will be overjoyed.
Although Snekguy it is kinda of your fault for making me buy XCOM2 and installing it on my toaster.
Your excellent stories are the only good XCOM viper stories I can find on the net.

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>>7237774
Thanks, I'm glad you enjoyed them!
I'm hoping to get some art too when it's completed.

Don't forget to install Playable Advent and make your own Vi!

>>7237761
I was just stating a fact, anon. No need to get so huffy about it, but if you insist on doing so then you can see me adding to the fic right this second.

>>7237801
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sd2Q6Fagemg

>>7237801
hey AA, does >>7237719 interest you at all? I like this guys Idea and want to see it done and two guys is better than one for that

>>7237801
Just to put it in perspective, you've written approximately 2472 words arguing with Snek, which could almost have been a story in itself.

>>7237824
>2000 words
>a story in itself
A shitty story, maybe. That's fucking nothing

>>7237828
The point is that's more than he's updated his angel story in about ten threads.

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>>7237806
Thanks, but I've used that joke before. And keep in mind I have an actual job that I need to attend to most of the time, I can't spend most of the day writing like Snek can. Have you ever tried to explain to your boss why you were writing smut during work hours?

In all seriousness, the update is on the way. Starts on page 8, at "With a slight sigh, the angel got off of my cock, pausing only to wipe off our combined juices and sample a taste of it for herself." Link is back up at >>7232939

>>7237811
Tempting, but that kind of thing just isn't my forte. I guess I could help with spelling and grammar, but I've always been shit at writing fight scenes and the like.

>>7237837
>I guess I could help with spelling and grammar, but I've always been shit at writing fight scenes and the like.
That'd be a goddamn godsend if I ever get this shit off the ground.
God, I just realized that I haven't written any fiction in like eight years, and that was slash. Guess it's good I don't have any sex scenes planned

>>7237719 here

>>7237837


Knocking out 500 words a day isnt hard and can be done while having a full time job and life responsibilities. You've done almost 3k today just arguing with Snek, the excuse of being too busy to write your story is pretty bullshit, mon frere.

>>7237855
Here's some reference material, has lots of info on Borealan culture, environment, cuisine, behavior, pictures of the different races, shit like that.

https://www.patreon.com/file?h=7752394&i=773404

Snekguy, do you do commissions and, if so, what's your going rate?

Starting writer here who thinks a commissioner might be trying to lowball me.

>>7237864

I paid him $10 per 3.5k words for my previous commissions.

>>7237857
I'm equally guilty, though this was supposed to be my day off to take a breather before I started Snek 4, and I spent it arguing with strangers on the internet.

gg me

>>7237864
It varies honestly, I'm pretty cheap and it depends what the person wants you to write and how much control they want.

I do as low $20 for 7000 words and I've seen as high as $100 for 5000.

>>7237857
it all depends on a particular person and what their life entails. I can say I haven't had the chance to write a single paragraph since my last update because of college exams. Life always gets in the way, and that's the cold truth

>>7237772
>Domestic snek on the ol' homestead
Excellent. I hope she wears a straw sun hat, those are adorable.
Also, wow, thread got angry while I was away. Still, there were some fairly insightful walls of text I mean discussions about how you might have fleshed out non-traditional parts of a borealan's psyche without compromising on them being large and in charge that stroked my worldbuildy boner. You know, between the people calling you an irredeemable hack on one side, and saying that anyone with criticism of your stuff is just totes mad with no valid points to make on the other.
Shame the bitchiness started to leak into the interesting discussion as it wore on, but hey ho internet arguments.

>>7237837
I'm sure there's a joke about "horny angels" somewhere, but I'm too tired. All I can think about is how nice it would be if an angel would literally take you under their wing instead of you using a blanket in bed. Thant one looks like she might get a bit handsy which would be less great for sleep, though who knows being molested by and angel probably feels like a soothing, weirdly erotic massage.

>>7237736
Now there's some reading for the weekend. Fantasy and no pure human protagonists sounds like a nice bit of variety. Not all the tags are my usual bag, but I'll try to get some feedback done once I stop being asleep and/or at work for the week.

>>7237861
Already got the guide, thanks.
Any thoughts on what borlean currency looks like? It'd play a pretty big role. And their architecture, what's it look like? I'm picturing kinda old school middle east-north african. And motor vehicles: would those be a thing on city streets?

Also, I'm thinking about a hundred human expats in the compound is about right for diplomatic staff, dependants and a double handful of business reps. You agree?
And finally, growth spurts: how much, how fast? Lots of people suggested a shorter gap, so presumably liz wouldn't be completely grown by the end of it
Sorry for the barrage of questions, I just want to get things in line with how you think of them

>>7237736
I really liked the unusual take on it. Most would only have rape and be done with it, but you actually made something unusual and nice. Also, your writing quality is great, and I liked the world-building that you did before and after the smut.

>>7237774
I'd seriously suggest getting the addons that PlagueofGripes/Gannadene had in his playthrough, they make certain aspects of the game a lot more tolerable.

>>7237898
I'm sure I can work that into the ending somewhere, assuming that our hero isn't kept up at night by the post-flight adrenaline rush.

>>7237917
I guess currency would be coins made from rare metals, as metals are one of their main exports.
I describe the architecture quite extensively in Fineprint and a little in the guide. Domed roofs, low buildings, lots of self-supporting structures like arches, no windows, mostly made from sandstone and often elaborately carved with murals and reliefs. Streets are cobblestone or stone slabs to prevent the jungle from retaking land.

Growth is gonna be pretty rapid, probably in a couple of years, don't forget growing pains would be a very real thing for her.

I was thinking the embassy would have a skeleton crew at best, and nobody would go to Borealis voluntarily. You might have better luck including perhaps a tavern human pilots frequent? The biggest concentration of humans would be UNN troops staffing ships in orbit and freighter crews. Would make sense to give them shore leave, as inhospitable as the planet is.

Kind of want to write it myself now, but I just don't have the time, lol.

>>7237736
I love everything about this except the impreg, which I'm just not that into.
If you're thinking of writing more with this, since they're werewolves, what about a gangbang with some in human form? That would be extremely hot

>>7237898
Thanks, dawg.

>>7237920
Thank you. I actively wanted to avoid rape and noncon tropes, and not just because it's what the requester wanted. I just think it's kind of tired, and to get the ending I and the requester wanted, I'd have to get even MORE tired and do a mind-break thing, which I didn't entirely dig on.

Someone else gave some suggestions (her motivation is kind of fuzzy, the use of "direwolves" is confusing if they're actually werewolves and not dire wolves, i.e. giant wolfs). It actually confirmed a couple things I was a little afraid of.

>>7237945
Thanks hombre. The requester specifically asked for impreg, and it /is/ my thing, but I appreciate the kind words even if it isn't your kink!

If I come up with another story or two I'm thinking of namefagging. Should I be Nyarlathotep or Broodlord?