>>>/qa/668743 Hiro wants us to discuss how we want

Personally I think we should get the obvious out of the way: unsplit /d/ and /aco/. Allow western art back, and make /d/ a general fetish board again.

And something desperately needs to be done about the abundance of futa threads.

>>7027891
I agree on unsplitting /d/ & /aco/ and allowing western/eastern content both.

With how many futa threads there are both here and in /aco/, though, I'd say that's the fetish that needs to be sectioned off. There's not one futa thread, it's "futas doing x," "futas with y" and they take up too many threads (I'm already iffy on "traps" and "traps with big dicks" being separated, but at least there's just two threads instead of fifteen).

>>7027905

A futa board, or a futa general?

I also think that the mods should stop banning for greentexts and erotic lit

>>7027891
>unsplit /d/ and /aco/
This would only really work if the number of pages the new board had got doubled, threads would fall off the board at lightning pace if they were just mushed back together.

>>7027909
Agreed, so long as the threads make sure to post /d/ art along the greentexts and erotica, I see no reason why we shouldn't have them: it's still fetish text, and I'm sure we could make an effort to include relevant pictures (as far as possible) to stay in theme with an image board.

As far as futa goes, I'd ideally suggest a general, but I recall discussion of that being attempted several times (specially at moments when we had over 1/3rd of the threads be futa and people got pissy), and it never went well. The argument was that anons were looking for futa + FETISH, so a futa general wouldn't please them at all. And it's true that there's broad content for futa, so I don't think futa fanatics would be happy being confined to one general.

So, probably a futa board to contain all of it. /aco/ doesn't have futa threads anymore (or at least not as many as /d/), but back when they were created the content for it was rampant as well.

I support merging /d/ and /aco/.

Text-heavy threads and discussion and sharing of erotica should not in any way be banned or discouraged.

I don't support /futa/ becoming it's own board. There is a ton of futa and it's not a fetish I'm into, but /d/ just wouldn't be /d/ without futa.

Unban the gentle femdom general thread and never selectively ban fetishes like that again. It's clearly a popular fetish, who cares if it attracts autists?

I personally don't see why scat should be banned, although I don't think there will be a lot of support for changing that policy.

>>7027914
Perhaps a more lenient moderation on western/eastern content on either board, then?

/aco/ was split from /d/ with art origin in mind, but some threads in /aco/ have a serious problem with redirecting you to /d/ if you ask for "a /d/ tier fetish": /aco/ has appointed itself more vanilla than /d/, so it's not a simple eastern/western divide anymore.

Get rid of the no fanart rule.

Allow western art with an anime style. Allow Eastern art with a cartoony style.

>>7027918
This anon >>7027914 has the right idea when they mention the threads would fall off fast if we merged back together. We couldn't really merge and still allow 5-15 active futa threads, so if we merged, I'd say splitting futas would be a must.

Keep them separate, and a futa board would be unnecessary, but we should still aim to reduce the number of threads for it when they get out of hand.

Also yes to >>7027924 , allow fanart and cartoony styles if it's of an eastern character. Not sure I agree on "western art with an anime style," but that's because I'm not sure if you're arguing for eastern-made fanart for the west, or just allowing eastern-inspired things like Avatar in general.

I support recombining /aco/ and /d/. I'm just hoping to get all my fetishes in one place again. Monstergirls and shortstacks all being in one place would make as happy as I can be.

The futa situation at present doesn't bother me, I'm down for futa the occasional futa thread though so that shouldn't be surprising.

In general I just think that erotic content on /d/ is fine. I came here because I have a large number of fetishes, I don't mind how that release is delivered to me.

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>>7027924
I don't believe that fanart rule is followed at all. pretty sure it was written when the rules were made and had a weirdly different implication back then
Also anime art by western artists is allowed

>>7027914
What? No. Were you not here, when was it, last August?

/d/ used to house both western and eastern fetish art. So, say, vore or xeno threads could have pics from western artists without being deleted. Then the mods sperged out when /aco/ was created.

/aco/ needs to be western /h/, and all the "weird porn" needs to come back here. People refuse to use /aco/ due to all the /d/ anyway.

>>7027937
/aco/ has grown to have it's own generals and shit, so merging back would force some of those threads to stop existing simply because /d/ would still make the normal amount of threads and vice-versa, that's what the anon means.

I like your suggestion, though, keep /aco/ to /co/ as /h/ is to /a/, allow eastern and western both in /d/, since we're the staple weird-sexual-shit board.

>>7027943
The funny thing is, we all asked for MONTHS for the split not to happen, and now the mods will excuse everything with "lol well it's been too long now XD"

Honestly that mod needs to be removed completely. The outright disrespect of the userbase was fucking staggering

I hate that on /d/ scat and to an extent loli are banned. This board is for /extreme/ fetishes so banniong out some because they're "icky" or whatever is pretty selective. Any banned fetishes shouldn't be.

As for the main issue with /d/'s moderation it boils down to two points

1)furries
2)western stuff

/aco/ exsists not so i think it should ouright be banned from /d/ or remerged. Best bet is to stay split.

And furries, you see one or two in every few threads get their images deleted. So we been a /furry/ board to fix that problem. /trash/ is not a solution.

>>7027949
I'd agree it's really been too long for it to merge back seamlessly, though I agree I would've preferred the split never happen.

I like that there's a place for western lewds now, I just don't think banning western stuff from /d/ was a necessary step towards that.

>>7027952
>I hate that on /d/ scat and to an extent loli are banned. This board is for /extreme/ fetishes so banniong out some because they're "icky" or whatever is pretty selective. Any banned fetishes shouldn't be.
You can fuck right off. Go to gurochan or whatever for that shit.

>>7027952
Loli is legally grey in the US and I believe outright banned in the UK and some other countries. I personally think that 2D loli should be 100% legal and acceptable everywhere, but I don't begrudge any mods who choose not to have it on their site.

Scat and gore should absolutely be free game for /d/. If you don't want to see the weirdest of the weird, don't come here.

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>>7027952
>I hate that on /d/ scat and to an extent loli are banned

As much as I kind of agree with you, I REALLY don't want to see scat threads. Or gore threads, because that's also an extreme fetish that's banned.

Make /aco/ a western version of /h/ and let people post more extreme content here again. It would make the users of both boards much happier.

>>7027960
>You can fuck right off with futa. Go somewhere else for that shit.
>You can fuck right off with TG. Go somewhere else for that shit.
>You can fuck right off with diapers. Go somewhere else with that shit.

There are a lot of fetishes here that some people might find disgusting. How could you possibly draw a line? Is /d/ the fetish board, or is it the fetishes-except-for-the-ones-I-personally-don't-like board?

>>7027967
Read the fucking rules. They are extreme. Found profoundly disgusting by anyone who doesn't have that fetish. You think it's impossible to draw the line but you don't realize it's been drawn since this board started.

Fuck off.

>>7027884
Get rid of all the current mods and get new ones.
The current ones delete any content they dislike even though it's /d/ content and doesn't violate the rules.

>>7027965
"Gore" should probably be allowed if spoilered or something. The creepy waifu thread had a big issue with the mods deleting most of their images because they were stuff like zombies with exposed non bleeding bone or bloody bandages.

Scat.... Well, I don't want it, but it's kind of wrong that it's banned. If the OP image is spoilered and it's banned from all threads unless the OP specifically allows it, then it would probably be OK.

>>7027967
>>7027972

While scat makes my stomach turn, I'd say maybe allow it (even if just a general for it). You allow diapers and probably watersports, scat isn't that far from those.

Loli and guro, not so much. Loli because it's a grey or outright illegal area in most countries, guro because torture falls under similar gray areas.

>>7027972
>They are extreme
No they aren't. In my opinion guro, ryona and amputation are the only extreme fetishes. There are a lot of things that I find disgusting on this board but instead of complaining about it I ignore those threads.

>>7027972
That's clearly not true. I'm not into scat or gore, but I don't find them "profoundly disgusting". But if you really want to play that game:

Diaper threads are profoundly disgusting to anyone without the fetish.
Fart threads are profoundly disgusting to anyone without the fetish.
Oviposition threads are disgusting to anyone without the fetish.

Etc.

People like you are the reason we still have retarded "obscenity" laws in the US. There is no principled line for what 2D drawings are too gross and which are not.

>>7027891
Yes please, I have nothing against futa but there's so many futa threads it's getting ridiculous. "Futas banging traps" "Futas in high heels" "Futas farting" "Futas playing smooth jazz".

>>7027980
I'm not aware of any country where 18+ guro is illegal or grey. Can you cite any laws or court cases?

>>7027990
They do it on purpose at this point.

They all get bumped at about the same time every day.

>>7027979
Spoiler images seem like a good compromise with people who don't want gore and scat. You could even require people to state in their post that the hidden image is gore/scat.

>>7027991
that's guro

>>7027929

>Keep them separate, and a futa board would be unnecessary, but we should still aim to reduce the number of threads for it when they get out of hand.
I think we could let western fetish stuff back in without kicking out futa, but the mods would have to be serious about keeping the number of futa threads to a reasonable level. I can see a couple of threads for actual sub-genres, but there is a point where it needs to stop. We absolutely don't need separate threads for blue and green haired futas or different threads for 5 different minor variations in dick size.

If more overly specific futa threads got deleted and less legitimate non-futa fetish threads did, /d/ would be a much better place.

>>7027979
That sounds like a reasonable compromise.

>>7027992
It's not guro specifically, sorry, I've just seen some fetish sites disallow guro with the argument that it could be spun as "potential hate crime."

It sounds a bit stupid, but I didn't question it back then.

>>7028003
Ok. Well I'm pretty sure that's a stupid made-up reason that has no basis in law.

>>7028004
Yeah, plus they were sites way more vanilla than /d/, so of course they'd want it out.

I'll have to retract "no guro" from my opinion, then, if there's no legal basis against it. Sorry for retardation spell.

>>7027992
I should add an amendment to this, there are countries like South Korea where porn is entirely illegal, so guro porn would be too. But in those cases, all of /d/ would be illegal.

>>7027960
>>7027972
How about you FUCK OFF.

>>7027999
Yeah see, this is the thing. I don't think anyone is asking for futa to be banned from the site.

God knows the way some of them act means they probably deserve it, but the most anyone asks for is for them to have their own board.

I mean, there is no excuse for like half the threads in the catalog to be minor permutations of futa like "politically incorrect futa." And if there IS a reason we need 50 futa threads, then they obviously need their own board.

/aco/ is starting to have the same issue.

>>7027891
I just counted. There's only about 5 threads right now that are exclusively futa. More than necessary, but not an abundance. Please don't exaggerate.

>>7028011
Shemale and traps are the same thing.

>>7028015
shemales are chicks with dicks
traps are boys dressed like girls

>>7028015
Traps are a whole different fetish than futanari.

I'll grant you shemales/newhalfs though

>>7027884
/d/ is for deviant, not dickgirls.
/aco/ should be merged with, all fetishes (except illegal ones), fanart and artstyles allowed.

less specific boards, more overall content and varied threads.

>>7028015
Only if you're talking about female traps. Most "trap" threads on /d/ refer to male traps, which aren't the same thing as futas/shemales, and shouldn't be treated as such.

Proof of this is the rejection of female traps (aka, surprise dickgirl, which are most futas) in trap threads.

Futa continues being the issue.

And >>7028011 , right now there's not too many, but the moment you start paying attention to how the content in this board fluctuates, you'll notice there's times when we do have an over-abundance of futas. Just because RIGHT THIS INSTANT it's not a problem doesn't mean it never is. It's really not an exaggeration.

>>7028010
>And if there IS a reason we need 50 futa threads, then they obviously need their own board.
But there is no real reason, it's just ineffective mods more interested in banning things they personally don't like than keeping order on the board.

Though admittedly, futa on /d/ is in a much better state now than it has been in the past.

>>7028011
>>7028015
>>7028020
>>7028021

This is the issue though: to people who dislike dickgirls as a concept, the semantic issues of those inside don't matter.

For instance, if someone made five fat threads for each different facet of the fetish, that would be overkill as well.

No western in /d/ is not a new rule and never has been.
keep western out of /d/.

>>7028027
That's honestly because /d/'s traffic has slowed down considerably

>>7028032
Except it was never enforced and nobody wants it that way on either board.

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>>7028037
>never enforced

>>7028028
>Semantics
>Quoting all those "traps are not futa" responses

I'd like to clarify that Traps vs Dickgirls has never been an issue for most participants of those kinks. No one who says "there's too much futa" means the male-trap threads.

The only semantic issues could be dickgirl, futa, herm, and dickgirl, but those all get posted under the "futa" flag (particularly because you can't tell some of those apart if the genitalia isn't in direct, full display).

>>7028032
i'm against that rule.

needs moar cum inflation & horse cock

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>>7028037
>>7028039

>>7028034
/d/ has always been super slow, though.

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>>7028043
>>7028039
>>7028037

>>7028044
Slowly /b/ or /pol/ standards, but /d/ is faster than many other boards.

>>7028045
>No western art
>Dmytri's is fine

That's that, then. Mods need more consistency, since western art they like is apparently allowed.

Am I the only one who's unsure about /aco/ coming back?
I mean sure western art do have lots of good stuff, and I think mods should be lenient on high quality or hentai styled western.
However western hentai also has a greater chance of being absolute shit. cartoony drawing and doodles are a huge turn off for me, and these days I see much less boner killers on /d/.

>>7028048
This board has always had shit mods.
Western art is allowed since draw threads are a thing.

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>>7028045
>>7028043
>>7028039
>>7028037
Apparently, "never" means, "When I wasn't here."

Which apparently means, "not long ago."

>>7028046
/d/ is still kind of a sluggish board most of the time; or at least, /aco/ is faster.

Though I'll admit I measure speed through thread rotation and not thread activity, so I might be talking shit.

>>7028028
"Futa vs Shemale" is semantic. "Futa vs Trap" is not semantic.

>>7028053
Yeah, I go more by thread activity. By its nature, /d/ threads tend to hang around longer, because people use individual fetish threads as ongoing archives of their favorite content.

But of course I would love it if /d/ had more activity.

>>7027884
make kisekae threads allowed again

>>7028062
100x this!

>>7028054
Agreed. Futa and traps just look obviously different. Traps tend to be very small and thin guys with flat chests, and are often clothed, while futas have more exaggerated features.

>>7028065
Not to mention we have one or two trap threads at most (still against "hung traps" being separated from the normal traps, but whatever), versus the daily minimum of five futa threads.

>>7028050
>>7028048
Allowing Dmitrys is not "shitty" or inconsistent as Dmitrys has been extremely high quality, consistently.

It was a bit of a legacy exception but it's one I stand by, and the mods specifically are permitted discretion.

>>7028078
>Allowing Dmitrys is not inconsistent
It is because he's Western. It's shitty and/or Western. That mod disregarded his own rules.

>>7028078
It's still western art, I'm not against it. They should allow other high quality western art too.

>>7028078
The reason it's shitty is because there are other western quality contents that get deleted, mate.

I'm not against Dmitry's art being posted, but the way it's implemented now makes it look like the mod is a fan of that artist, so that one gets a pass. We need a laxer leash on western art of good quality, not just an exclusive pass for X or Y artist.

>>7028085
>>7028086
>>7028088

In that regard, if we had to ride the slippery slope down to allowing more western or banning dmitrys, I'd rather ban dmitrys.

>>7028062
Yes, I just want to make waifus an tfs

>>7027918
Are there users who hate the text/discussion threads?

>>7027965
Call me crazy but I've always enjoyed the soft standards of /d/, it makes it easier to refer to it when it isn't a lawless land of scat/gore flooding the pages every now and then. The worst I've seen is the 'trypophilia' threads.

I'm only okay with Diaper/Farting because rarely once or twice I can fap to them when crossed with other fetishes I enjoy.

Under a Spoiler, it would just be my own fault for viewing it. I'm not gonna blame anyone else for my own retardation to say the least.

>>7027966
Does /aco/ constantly complain about it?

So Very Hard to resist impulse to post porn for what is a discussion thread..

>>7028090
I'd rather ride it the other way and just allow western, myself.

>>7028043
And yet it was never enforced, and the users did not want it that way. They still don't.

>>7028090
Or we could just not pointlessly ban western art on a fucking fetish board.

Nobody is jacking off to countries.

>>7028049
It was literally never a problem before.

>>7028106
/aco/ complained about fetish threads from day one.

Most people on /co/ refuse to touch /aco/ because of all the futa and slob.

>>7028127
The fact that the moderation came in several times proves that you were not here when it was enforced.

>>7028131
>pointlessly
Or there's some people that prefer the way it looks.

You know.
This being a hentai board and all.

>>7028045
>thread about how to rules are wrong and go against what the users want
>"b...but muh rules!"

Are you Kittenmod?

I'm in the camp of keeping /aco/ and /d/ separate, but being more lenient on eastern-influenced and non-shitty western art in /d/. Really, I just hate toon proportions and faces.

Although I don't think outright guro and scat should be allowed, I think normal pictures with some guro and scat features in them should with the appropriate spoiler tags. For example, there might be a zombie character with their arm ripped off, and there may be some visible bone and some blood soaking the edges of the clothes, but as long as she's not fucking ripping herself open and getting blood on everything, it's not really guro-y, it's just an image with a striking element. The only problem Is that might be kinda difficult to moderate, so I get it if this seems too unreasonable.

I'm against seperating futa or trap content from the rest of /d/. I honestly really like the way /d/ is now, the ratio between futa, trap, and the rest is just right for my tastes imo.

>>7028145
People don't come to /d/ for "hentai", anon, that's /h/. People come to /d/ for the fetishes. If the content is of good quality, only a select few would sperg about "IT'S WESTERN CHARACTERS/ARTISTS."

>>7028151
And I want the rules enforced.

>>7028158
/d/ is a hentai board.

How you missed this is beyond my understanding.

>>7027918
You are a fucking idiot., and so transparent you might as well be cling film.

>>7028156
>Weebs are literally subhuman. They don't get a vote.
B8.

>>7028152
>lumping trap content with futa content

The reason trap content ratio to other content is not a problem is because it gets about as much content as other fetishes.

I get they're both "feminine penises", but why lump it together when the discussion is "too many futa threads" and male traps have literally never had that issue.

>>7028162
>The specific appeal of a board is the fetishes it allows to be posted
>These fetishes specifically are what separate them from other red boards, to the point those boards redirect you to /d/ when you cross into them
>"It's not about the fetish, anon, it's about the hentai, gosh, you're so stupid!"

Yeah, ok, I'm the dense one.

>>7028152
"I don't like it" isn't a good argument. I would rather the board be deleted outright than house futa at all, but that doesn't mean it should happen.

Likewise kicking western fetish art off of /d/ was a massively unpopular move and did nothing but needlessly split the content of threads between multiple boards. And I'll let you in on a secret- even now, people don't follow those rules. People post Japanese art on /aco/ and western art on /d/, because they care about fetishes, not origins.

>>7028176
It is a board for alternative. hentai.
Hentai, but of alternative fetishes.

Both.

>>7028156
>mods deleting posts they disagree with

So it's come to this already? How long until he starts speaking out and deletes the thread outright?

Why don't you come out and talk to us instead of hiding behind your mod powers like a goddamned coward?

>>7028185
Alternative and Hentai.

That's the way the users want it.

>>7028187
It wasn't just because he disagreed with it but it was the, "ur a weeb and u don't count" comment.

That's pretty much a, "I don't belong on this board" statement.

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STEP 1: Enforce the rules 100% of the time, judiciously, mercilessly. Ban first, ask questions later.

STEP 2: Don't just delete a thread and let the OP put it up again, keep deleting threads immediately over and over until they get the message that they aren't welcome.

STEP 3: Publically acknowledge when a community is banned and shame them for it. Don't leave them thinking they can just come back in a few weeks. Make it clear when people should leave and not come back.

STEP 4: Return to forced anonymous board, no namefags.

STEP 5: Expand current list of banned fetishes to include the "soft" bans, and make them hard bans.

STEP 6: Delete duplicate threads.

STEP 7: Ban artists trying to advertise themselves for free in threads to make money, and then name and shame those artists as per Step 3.

STEP 8: Figure out which janitors/mods are cherrypicking which rules to enforce and when. The rules always apply 100% of the time, and if mods aren't enforcing them equally, they are doing more harm than good.

This would get /d/ back to where it should be, and fix pretty much all of the major problems.

>>7028162
"Hentai" doesn't just mean anime shit.

>>7028193
It literally does.

>>7028193
It really actually does, you might as well be saying the alphabet isn't just letters.

>>7028190
That sounds like shit.

>>7028183

People care about fetishes and quality content, see >>7028185

Only pure autists would flip out that the quality content for their fetish is western in origin and not eastern. Which is why Dmytri and ModeSeven are allowed here.

>>7028190
Sounds pretty good to me.

>>7028190
6 and 8 are the only things I agree with.

>>7028199
What makes you think so newfriend?

>>7028200
Modeseven is eastern in style.

Personally, I'd like to see _style_ enforced over origin.

Eastern style (hentai) is permitted. Western style (not hentai) is not.

>>7028190
6 and 7 are fine. The rest of that is embarrassingly bad.

>>7028190
>>7028199

You can't get rid of human bias in moderation, so "MAKE EVERYTHING A HARD BAN" is pretty much the most stupid suggestion ever. Shit suggestions, fampai.

>>7028188
Your opinion is interesting, but, not everybody's

>>7028214
But why? What fetish could you possibly have that is dependent on country of origin?

>>7028199
>>7028204
>>7028211
>>7028215
>>7028216
So you think /d/ is better now than it used to be?

>>7028214
Hm, yes, I think enforcing style over origin is much more agreeable.

But then Dmytri has to go, since that's not eastern styled by any stretch of the concept.

>>7028222
It is exponentially worse than ever.

More moderation is never the answer. Rulefags kill communities.

>>7028188
>Alternative and Hentai.
redundant.
We have a hentai board.

Which would make this board just,
>alternative
Which would mean as long as it's "a fetish" it's permitted.
Asinine.

>>7028227
If you think /d/ is worse now, why would you be opposed to going back to how /d/ used to be?

>>7028221
You are thinking this is a fetish board.
It's an alternative hentai board.
That is its name and has been since inception for about a decade now.

>>7028227
we need better moderation, mods that actually enforce the rules and don't delete content they dislike unless it is stated in the rules.

>>7028227
>more police is not the answer to more crime
gotcha

>>7028225
Unfortunate but agreeable.

>duplicate threads get slammed down hard
>fetishes the mods dislike get banned outright regardless of rules (remember Shortstacks and how they were banned as a, to quote the mod, "shitty western fetish?"

>massive amounts of futa threads left in the threads that get one post a day until they autosage
>dmytri is a-ok even though western art is the worst thing possible

Is the mod the person who makes all the futa threads?

>>7028222
>So you think /d/ is better now than it used to be?
Sort of, sort of not.
The community has been bothering me for a while not.
I don't think it's the board or rules that's the problem.

I think the problem is the community. A large influx of new users who have not been here for as long came in and lax moderation made assumptions about how the board was meant to be based on lack of response from the moderation. They would make threads and posts, get nothing from the moderation, and assume it was ok.

This would continue for years until moderation finally noticed and then the new users felt, "but we've been doing this for years why complain now!?"

Both parties partially to blame. The new users assumed that the rules were just for show and weren't enforced, because they weren't, because no rules were really being that enforced.

Moderators refused to moderate /d/ all that much unless posts got a LOT of reports and then got involved. Otherwise ignored the board.

/d/ doesn't get much moderation at all.

>>7028190
This would solve all our problems, but you might as well ask Moot to come back and reinstate the hidden boards for how likely it is.

They'll never go back to running /d/ like this, much as it hurts to accept that.

>>7028232
That isn't how /d/ was at all.

>>7028251
/d/ was made for futa.

>shortstacks are a shitty western fetish
How much western content was posted in the thread?

>>7028252
Moderation and the rules of the board should reflect what the users want, not what the mods want. This is the issue.

>>7028257
Except for the fact that, you know, it was. And theres a lot of people who know/remember that. Otherwise yeah sure you're totally right.

>>7028257
Yeah.... it was. You might as well say you were born in 2001 if you're going to say that.

>>7028264
If the majority of users got what they wanted, this would be a reddit page and emojis would be included.

>>7028237
>more shitty police is the answer to crimes, even if non-crimes get punished as well
gotcha

>>7028237
When the police are the criminals it damn sure isn't.

>>7028264
4chan isn't now nor has it ever been a democracy.

>>7028269
>users want to be reddit
>users want emojis

Wat.

>>7028273
Hiro begs to differ, Mr. Mod.

>>7028252
That's how a board for sick perverted anime fetish porn should be run. If you don't like something, don't look at it.

>>7028227
Yes.

>>7028237
>it's a crime when people post certain pictures of anime tiddies that I don't like instead of the anime tiddies I do like
Jesus Christ.

>>7028301
This, honestly. /d/ is one the more rulefaggy boards on the site, barring hellholes like /a/. It's patently ridiculous that a board for masterbating and discussing fetishes is treated like a police state.

/aco/ has the right idea- their mods have always been much more lax than /d/'s psychotic one.

Honestly if they just officially allowed Japanese fetish art on /aco/ I'd be okay, but making the western equivalent to /h/ also house /d/ fetish content is dumb.

>>7028312
So you're saying we should split /aco/ into a western drawn porn board and a western alternative board?

>>7028347
Yes, and then combine both alternative porn boards into one.

>>7028048
Firstly, Dmitry is russian. Russian is apart of asia. Asia is considered the east. So Russian art is eastern art.

Secondly, /d/ was initially created specifically for dickgirl related content, but then /h/ complained enough that they just made /d/ a general fetish board since /d/ was cool with it anyway. Then later they banned guro and scat porn because legal reasons.

>>7027884
I suggest we move all the fetish stuff over to aco including all the bullshit loli and shota crap that makes up 70% of "trap" threads, rename it to suit the content, and keep /d/ with all non-binary gender art both east and west. This includes monsters and the general fetishes that contain dickgirl content. Of course, keeping the furry rule intact. And moderating the quality of the porn. If it's shit art like sirkowski then remove it. That shit needs to stay on HF and DA where they can improve their skills in a much healthier environment than this site of assholes.

>>7028369
Everything you just said was dumb as shit.

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>>7028369
>Firstly, Dmitry is russian. Russian is apart of asia. Asia is considered the east. So Russian art is eastern art.

>>7028373
All the whining really makes that hard to believe. Especially 6 years ago.

>>7028372
Consider this. On both boards, the only thing anyone complains about is what? That's right. Futa. So how do we fix the problem? We separate the futa from everything else. Two fetish boards, one difference.

>>7028381
But I sometimes like a little futa with my other fetishes.

>>7028385
Then come to your fetish thread on the futa board.

>>7027891
Voting for this. The split was handled pretty badly in my opinion. Despite it supposedly being a "western /d/" we still get treated like outcasts on /aco/. They're just too normal for us.

/aco/ should be the shitty-art-containment-board

Enforce the western art rule only on obviously shitty deviantart. Ignore it otherwise. Encourage western art to be posted on /aco/ anyway.

If joining the boards again, require art quality standards outside of threads marked for it.

Anything extreme should remain extreme and stay gone. Under no circumstances should people see someone taking a shit, getting disemboweled or beaten to death in the catalog, etc.

Dump or audit the current mods and janitors. They obviously don't know what they're doing and need to learn from scratch.
Unless otherwise stated in the OP, even /d/ threads should be moderated under the assumption that they are "ordinary" for the fetish. Someone makes a standard cuntboy thread? Nobody needs to be seeing any tits. Someone makes a breast expansion thread? People shitposting with male breast expansion should be having their posts deleted. Fetishes are a pretty strict thing, so people should be allowed to go into a thread and see exactly what they expect to see within the bounds of the rules for the thread. Treat it like /vg/, if anything - a general must have its discussion restricted to the game the general is about. Same should apply here.


Building on that, users should be encouraged to set rules for their thread that mods will fucking enforce. If someone says no futa and people intentionally post futa it should be treated as if it were FURRY - it doesn't belong.

Finally, reaction images are not fetish content and do not belong on /d/ outside of discussion threads. They're fun, but not sexual.

Did I miss anything?

>>7028436
Yeah, make /aco/ a "normal" western drawn porn board and we'll take their good fetish stuff.

>>7028441
This.

>>7028444
this is the most sensible idea. I can't wait for it to be wholly ignored.

>>7028456
That's the standard 4chan mod way of decision making.

>>7027891
agreed

also allow bestiality

>>7027891
Disagree.
People who want this to be another tumblr art dump should just go get their art ...on tumblr.

>>7028508
Nope.
Strong disagree.

>>7028510
People want it to be what it's been for years: a fetish board.

People want to jerk off over superior eastern pornography craftsmanship that's folded 100000000000000 times should go to 2chan or some shit.

>>7028515
It has literally been "hentai/alternative" since inception and has not changed since then.

You keep trying to appeal to this greater majority when you're the only one.

>>7028510
its a bit silly that fictional animals are allowed, but real ones arent.

specially when some of them are pretty much real animals with an extra feature or two.

>>7028515
>superior eastern pornography craftsmanship that's folded 100000000000000 times
If you hate hentai so much you should not be on a hentai board.

>>7028519
>only one person wants the board fixed

lol

>>7028522
Good thing I'm on the Alternative porn board.

>>7028525
The board is not broken.
It functions as it always has and by its design.

>>7028528
Odd, the header, name, and all title speak otherwise.

Perhaps you are browsing simultaneously on another tab on another board as well?
Which board?

>>7028529
>it's not broken
I think the users would disagree with that.

>>7028536
Well we can agree with that.
I think /d/ needs to enforce it's no western policy more.

>>7028539
i disagree

>>7028542
How would you compromise? Do you think that allowing more alternative content on /aco/ would be acceptable?

>>7028539
Disagree. The rule should be removed and the mod removed as well.

>>7028544
just allow western content but keep the no low quality content rule, i don't see the big deal.

>>7028544
I think we should merge /d/ back into /h/

>>7028550
I think that's not going to work on any level and I don't see why anyone would want that.

>>7028554
Why?

>>7028549
I don't see the big deal in keeping /aco/ and /d/ separate.

Do you understand how people have different viewpoints and compromise may be necessary?

>>7028549
The "low quality" thing was never even an issue desu. People generally don't post art they don't like unless they're actively shitposting

>>7028558
if you can't understand the difference between the 2 boards your opinion is irrelevant

>>7028557
Well because the content of /h/ and /d/ is considerably different. /d/ was created for alternative content too "extreme" for /h/. The two simply are non-compatible.

>>7028558
Except the board went unsplit for years and the users liked it that way, and disagreed with the split completely.

The polls held since prove that the numbers are massively skewed towards reunification.

I'm convinced you're just a shitposting mod at this point.

>>7028560
People will post art that is low quality but they think isn't. Happens frequently.

>>7028561
>>7028563

And same is true for /aco/ and fetish threads. Forcing fetish threads onto /aco/ is the same as pushing /d/ threads onto /h/.

/d/ is readily compatible with fetish threads, so they should go here.

>>7028569
yes they should but /aco/ should also remain a thing since /d/ is strictly for niche fetish content

>>7028564
And for years before you were here the mods consistently held the opinion that it should be enforced.

Why people who hate hentai and go to a board built for it still confuses me. Can you at least explain that?

Look guys, /aco/ was conceived because /co/ needed a place for lewds but was and is and should continue to be work safe. So make /aco/ identical to /co/ (as in same content and themes) but with the requirement that it be for posting lewds. This can mean nudity, masturbation, sex, maybe some gay or light bondage... you know, the sort of thing that wouldn't offend or shock any reasonable person who was aware that they were going to look at pornography. The point is that you want to see particular characters in sexual situations.

Then there's /d/. The difference for /d/ is that we don't care about particular characters in sexual situations. We want to see anything in a particular sexual situation and we also house pictures that would shock, offend, or confuse the casual browser of pornography.

tl;dr:
Samus fucking -> /aco/
Samus in bondage -> /aco/
Anyone in bondage -> /d/
Samus being raped by her suit -> /d/

>>7028571
Well yeah, nobody wants /aco/ deleted. We needed a western /h/ for years. /aco/ was made as an r34 board for /co/ and the buttmad /d/ mod decided to gut /d/ and shove it inside.

Now /co/ mostly refuses to use the board since its full of /d/.

>>7027979

Have to agree on this, re: scat, guro, ryona, etc; they're not my thing, but the border on what's "extreme" can vary so hard between people. Allowing them but spoilered seems a very reasonable compromise. Similarly with

>>7028508

I'd personally be okay with this as well as long as it fell under the spoiler compromise as well,

It seems silly to me that we can split that something like Egg Laying, Diapers filled with shit, Unbirthing, Anal Vore, and Futas-With-Horse's-Cocks-Dickfucking is okay but Belly punching, Actual Shit, Zombie fucking and Horse-Cocks-Attached-To-A-Horse isn't.

>>7028574
Samsung is eastern ya? So depending on artist that might be /h/ or /d/ or /e/ even depending on the image.

I mean retro studios did a few metroid games but zero mission and ultimately the zero suit are Sakamoto.

Recombine the boards, expand page number to handle it. Or ship futa to another board. Consider adding a more extreme fetish board so it doesn't end up here.

>>7028581
>Samsung
Well fuck you too auto correct.

>>7028579
>>7027979
>>7028000
>>7027997

Agreeing with this. Letting people spoiler things that fall under very extreme things would be fine, as log as its not breaking laws. And really pedophilia is the only thing that does, so there should be no issue with guro or even scat(as much as I dislike it)

Just have the poster mention what's on the other side of the spoiler as a courtesy. The spoiler functionality exists so it should literally just be a switch flip

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bring /rr/ back and just ban the people who shit it up
there is no reason to ban a fetish because a few Autists

and let western art in /d/

that is all

>>7028587
We used to have a guro board.

I can imagine gurochan might be thrilled to be welcomed back.

https://www.strawpoll.me/11232337

>>7027891
I wholeheartedly agree. I don't care whether or not /d/-style stuff is allowed on /aco/, but I absolutely want high-quality western content to be allowed on /d/.

The no-western rule has always been interpreted as "no *shitty* western", and that's how it should remain.

>>7028603
Yeah, no toons, just good, well-rendered pieces of art.

i dont see the problem with western art,
as long as it fits the theme of whatever thread its posted in.

>>7028606
I agree with this
because shit jap art exists as well
just aslong as its I. good taste and fits the thread
I don't see an issue

>>7028598
Have two more.

>http://www.strawpoll.me/5633170/r
>Should we add Western content back to /d/?
>Yes - 73%

>http://www.strawpoll.me/10590952/r
>just stop deleting western on /d/ - 61%


We have taken tons of these. They all end the same.

>>7028603
>>7028612

Honestly the rule should just be "no shitty art," regardless of origin

>>7028615
>having the no votes and others split up this much
this is called a loaded ballot.

>>7028616
yea
no one cares where it comes from

>>7028616
this

>>7028616
Origin has never been the issue.
Style has.

>>7028617
>WAAAAAAHHHHHHH THIS POLL PROVES ME WRONG

Grow the fuck up

>>7028621
there is literally no such thing as someone who can only get off to anime

>>7028622
The poll has no option for, "delete western on /d/."
It's fallacious on its face you clod.

Just make a simple poll with, "allow western on /d/?" yes or n-

Oh here's one.
>>7028598

>>7028626
Correct.
Wanting the two separate isn't unreasonable.

Allow non-shit Western art, but don't merge /aco/ back into /d/ because shit like the Simpsons or Spongebob have never been allowed on /d/ and never will be, even if it's of a /d/ fetish, or somehow the artist drew it well.

>>7028630
>>7028606

Do you want "toons?"
Because this is how you get toons.

>>7028632
I think you're missing the part where /aco/ stays and toons aren't allowed on /d/. Did you even read?

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>>7028632
we didnt have toons before.
just take it back to what it was
we may get spamed with shit posting for the first day, but after it cools down it will be fine and we can have artists like
FUCKING INCASE back on the board

>>7028634
Allowing western on /d/ is how you get toons on /d/.

>>7028629
But it is.

>>7028636
we never had toons when it was allowed on /d/
how new are you?

>>7028635
>we didnt have toons before.
I have literally seen it happen several times in the past. The only reason it got banned was because it was actually against the rules.

>>7028636
Not if a rule disallowing toons is made.

>>7028627
>Your polls don't count! Only my poll I'm already botting!

God you're pathetic.

>>7028638
Your argument is literally, "yes huh."

>>7028632

You literally quote a post saying "no toons" and say that's how you end up with toons. This is the very definition of being intentionally obtuse.

>>7028643
>Y-you're botting! That's your poll!

Neither of those things are true and stop trying to run roughshod over the rest of the people who don't agree with you who are trying to be reasonable and meet you halfway.

>>7028636
>If I see a single piece of western art my heart will literally sieze up and I'll die

Or you could follow moot's "if you don't like it, ignore it" rule like a big boy

>>7028649
>trying to be reasonable
>weeaboos
>ever

>>7028651
What happens when we apply this logic to furry.
Watch as waffles are instantly made!
(Note: Waffling means to flop and change position)

>>7028632
>toons

You don't even know what you're talking about at this point.

>>7028652
>screaming "weeaboo" on a hentai board
>on 4chan
You are being incredibly more unreasonable and not supporting your position or your assertion.

>>7028653
There is literally no reason for furry to still be banned other than newfags trying to fit in.

/trash/ is an entire board of furries and it's better handled than /d/ is, and it doesn't even have fucking mods.

>>7028653
why would we?
no one here wants furry, it hasn't been brought up the whole thread.

>>7028655
What does 4chan have to do with anything? This isn't an anime website for fucks sake.

>>7028654
cartoons.
Like the shitty ad banner "cartoon" porn you used to see back in in 06 and such on torrent sites and the like.

I.e. flintstones, jetsons, simpsons, spongebob, etc.

>>7028660
>This isn't an anime website for fucks sake.

You know why 4chan was created, right? And how? And why moot turned it over to Hiroyuki?

>>7028657
furry is banned because it is a virus that spreads so fucking fast
the board would be nothing but furrys

>cartoons
aco
>non cartoons
/d/
origin of the artist shouldn't matter.

>>7027918
I'm more for fetish being it's own thing anyway.

/d/ seems to be less fetish and more alternative lifestyle hentai and even /trash/ might be more inviting to some non-traditional or unpopular fetishes despite the booru housing some of them.

>>7028660
but it is anon

>>7028659
Furry is a boogeyman for particularly dumb shitposters. They think comparing [group I don't like] to furries is an instant win.

It's like Godwin's Law. The longer an argument about a group on the internet goes on, the likelihood of them being compared to furries increases.

>>7028635
Yeah, incase is a great example of high-quality art that really belongs on /d/. (And if /aco/ wants to duplicate it, then that's fine with me.)

>>7028662
Unfriendly reminder that /b/ was the first board, and /a/ was kicked out of /b/ because they didn't want them around.

>>7028663
No, it doesn't.

>>7028668
4chan has hated furries since inception as a SA (hated furries) project by moot (also hated furries)

>>7028660
It has the word "chan" in its name.

>>7028669
plus its like there are 2 /d/s now instead of /d/ and a place for /co/ to shit post. /aco/ is fucking flooded with
>incase
>shadbase
>nobodyinpaticular

>>7028671
October 2 - 4chan's hosting company receives an e-mail complaining about "lolikon and guro posted in /b/, to which moot writes back that neither of the two is illegal. Later in the day, moot creates a second board, /h/ (Hentai). The email was sent by Shii/Menchi because the people of world2ch felt 4chan ripped them off (Which is inaccurate, since world2ch was a sister site to 2ch and 4chan was a sister site to Futaba/2chan) moot later befriended them. The rules page describes /b/ as a test board which will later become an anime board. moot describes /b/ in a news post as "a retard bin".
/a/ left the retard bin, they wernt kicked out

im sorry anon
a good 775% of this website is nippon

>>7028671
This is a fictitious recounting of events.
Literally revisionism.

>>7028664
Okay by me.

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Please, think of deelette!

>>7028664
Not unreasonable at all.

>>7028675
citation needed
good argument fucking retard
why do you think furry is banned to begin with

>>7028676
...yes, and? In the year 2016 that shit is cringe inducing. The kids that were the furries of the early 2000s have been replaced with the genderqueer tumblr kids of today, while those furrows have grown up like the rest of us. 90% of /v/ jerks it to Krystal and Rouge, and 90% of /co/ fap to Callie.

Clinging onto some high school rivalry with a group for no other reason than muh board culture is really fucking pathetic, especially if you weren't even old enough to use the internet at the time (as I suspect you were)

>>7028690
Woohoo!
We have, "CURRENT YEAR!" and,
"kiddo"!

We really made it far!

>>7028687
>why do you think furry is banned to begin with

Because moot was an SA goon who thought everything SA told him to?

>>7028690
>i'm a furry so everyone else is the post
go away

/aco/ should be normal western cartoon porn.
/h/ should be normal japanese cartoon porn.
/d/ should be fucked up porn from both sides. There's enough content to fill a single board and the primary "normie" residents of /aco/ and /h/ don't really enjoy blueberry or hypermuscle or giant girl or whatever the fuck is popular these days.
>>7028693
furrys get out, your kind is not welcome here

>>7028694
I remember my first year on 4chan too. Man, wait until you've been here for two!

>>7028690
>no other reason
Other than furries are literal garbage that refuse to integrate into their communities and demand that they cowtow to their whims rather than lurk and get along, being entitled cunts along the way and insisting that everyone play by their rules by virtue of the fact that they're new and special and here and we should listen to them?

Actually, I'm starting to see some parallels here.

>>7028690
>>7028675
>>7028693
>>7028690

look at this shit
this is a /d/ discusion. and furrys even manage to shit up the thread
this is the issue with these people
its all about furrys 24/7 and the wruin boards and posts.
fucking leave
we gave you a shit hole to fester in
>>>/trash/

>>7028698
>I remember my first year on 4chan too
Way back in 2014!

/aco/ shoudn't exist, their perversions are part of /d/. It was a bad decision when it was created and it is a bad decision today.

I sometimes wish 4chan could have a /fet/ or something to discuss fetishes and perversions and leave /d/ for the porn images. That way /d/ could be free of those kind of threads.

>>7028698
you have mental problems

>>7028685
Oh wow, so this is what it's like to understand a political comic. Huh.

>>7028704
/fet/ is a great idea

>>7028695
>/aco/ should be normal western cartoon porn.
Jesus fuck, this.

Stop putting Pokegirl threads in.
Stop squeezing in Mario shit because "muh non-anime style"
Stop pigeonholing what is OBVIOUSLY NOT-/co/ related just because of fanart in general.

PERSONALLY I think /aco/ should only be /co/ related material but adult shit period. OC shit should stay out and videogames of all kinds should be left out but really that's just me. If it's already ingrained in the board culture, then don't worry about it. I'm just a stickler for what board topics should and shouldn't cover is all.

>>7028701
You were literally the one who brought up furries in the first place, faggot.
>>7028653

Not my fault you got called out for being retarded.

>>7028685
Why does d-tan look like a 40 year old business woman?

>>7028704
that's like saying mlp shouldn't exist because co exists

>>7028712
Those are not the same people you ape.

Make /aco/ western /h/,
Change /d/ to the drawn fetish board sinkhole it should be (ie, not just hentai).
I wont say what fetishes to ban, just stick to and enforce whatever they are.
As for futa, keep it on /d/ but refer to generals as much as possible

>>7028699
>I'm going to make a bunch of unsourced, unprovable statements
>>7028701
>how dare you question me! You're supposed to LISTEN and BELIEVE

sad desu

>>7028704
>>7028709
Noooo way man, splitting /d/ into an image board and a fetish discussion board would be terrible. There's so much interplay between the discussions and the images.

>>7028714
/d/ should be for non-real porn of strange fetishes and/or futa like it used to be for 90% of its lifetime.
Pony cancer is a whole different topic/problem and I think it doesn't even matter in this conversation.

>>7028685
The funny thing is /d/emona is ALSO western so she's banned too.

Our board mascot is literally forbidden on her own board.

>>7028704
A board where we post western pornographic drawing shouldn't exist?, it wasn't created as a fetish bait board to begin with, also
>perversions
kek, i know that what they post there isn't normal on the slightest but you couldn't have sounded more like a soccer mom.

>>7028712
>i didnt
>furrys latched on to there name and attempted to ruin the thread
>>>/out/
your kind is the lowest of the low

>>7028720
>I'm going to make a bunch of unsourced, unprovable statements
It's called being around 4chan and watchign them act like this everywhere.

>>7028720
>I'm going to make a bunch of unsourced, unprovable statements
it's the same for the post he is responding to.
mods might as well delete this thread, it's not even about /d/'s issues anymore.

>>7028722
Uh, that's what /d/ is for right now? That's what people post.

>>7028710
Then where should adult western OC go?

>>7028721
but /fet/ could be for all fetishes
>gets traps off /b/
>guro and scat
>allow drawings and photos

>>7028732
>>7028721
you could also throw in
>furrys
>lolis
>mlp porn

you could even call it something like
/trash/
lol

>>7028729
The problem is the fact that mods ban western content and oc.

>>7028726
>as a 4chan user, I know everything about how their massive community acts on 4chan, despite furries on 4chan being banned harder than pedophilia

>>7028724
>A board where we post western pornographic drawing shouldn't exist?
I'm just saying it should all be together. I liked it more that way.

>kek, i know that what they post there isn't normal on the slightest but you couldn't have sounded more like a soccer mom.
I like the word perversions when talking about this stuff. It's enough subtle to make thins kinky.

>>7028732
But guro and scat should just be allowed on /d/. And obviously everything should be allowed on /b/.

I know that a hypothetical /fet/ would allow images, but /d/ is already not the fastest board, and splitting it would only reduce the amount of content that gets shared/produced.

>>7028728
>everybody disagrees with me
>"SHUT IT DOWN! SHUT IT ALL DOWN! MOOOOOOOOOOOODS!"

>>7028735
Judging them based on how they act here.

>>7028733
>furrys
>lolis
>mlp porn
All those things are either banned or exclusive to /trash/ (or /mlp&. They have nothing to do with the rest of the boards.

>>7028736
I know what you mean and i do agree with you putting all fetishes on one board, but doing that normal western would be left homeless with only /trash/ or /b/ to stay

>>7028730
Actually let me reel this back. It's not that I don't like OC, it's that I don't like that it takes a front seat to established /co/ characters, obscure or popular as far as the /d/ ex-pats are concerned.

>>7028742
It used to be post in /d/. We had Legoman and Shadbase threads. I don't see why it couldn't be allowed.

>>7028733
Only one of those things sounds acceptable any it's not the part about cartoon animals.

>>7028738
no one will accept your degenerate fetish and it has no relevance to the thread. go away.

>>7028738
That seems to happen a lot around here, doesn't it?

>>7028744
I honestly see shadbase as pretty eastern styled personally.
Well, mostly.

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so is any one of importance seeing this thread?
like a mod or hiroshi moot
or we all just yelling at each other for no reason?

>>7028744
The problems are the mods that started banning that content, and the normal people that don't like the fetish part of /aco/

>>7028750
Whose your metric for eastern styles? Christopher Hart?

>>7028750
shadman should be forever banned, period.

>>7028750
Is still miles away from regular or kinky hentai content.
We also had shiniez, videogame porn, western cartoon porn and all that stuff. For me it feels like it should be better to have it in one place.

>>7028756
Hiro told us to discuss it on /qa/

Alright, Hiro wanted us to make regulations. Here are the new /d/ regulations.

>all "alternative" art goes here, regardless of origin. Fanart of an alternative nature is allowed

>spoilers are now enabled. All art of an 'extreme' nature MUST be spoilered. Please include a description of the content of the image in your post. (Exceptions can be made for extreme images inside an "extreme" thread, but the OP MUST be spoilered)

>discussion and erotic literature threads are allowed.

>please keep the number of threads dedicated to a topic limited. Threads deemed duplicates will be deleted.

>if the OP of a thread requests content of a certain type not be posted in that thread, the post will be considered off-topic and could result in a ban.

>loli and images depicting underage children are not allowed.

>>7028746
Some one wants the party van knocking at their home

>>7028756
Did you not read the OP?

I'm totally against merging /d/ and /aco/ back but at this point I don't see there being much difference either way. In my experience the only western pics that are deleted from /d/ are ones that I have to report, mods are extremely lax about western content here. It makes me think that either
1. There aren't any mods or jannies that browse /d/ themselves and clean it up without user intervention
or
2. The mods/jannies that do browse it don't care and aren't following the rules.

I don't like western content, I'd like to see it off of /d/ as much as possible. I've considered becoming a janitor myself just for that purpose but I doubt I'd be accepted, seeming like some guy with a vendetta and a chip on his shoulder. So instead I just try to help with the "user moderation" and hope the posts I report get deleted. Sometimes that works but it hasn't been as effective lately.

I dislike people that post western content way more than the content itself however. People that post western content and people who post eastern (Japanese) content are just a very different breed, in terms of user savvy, attitude, and taste. I shared many a fetish thread on early /jp/ and /b/ but those people I had fun times with back in the day are simply not the main users of /d/ or /aco/ these days. Just take a look at the diaper threads on /d/ and the ones on /aco/, they are night and day and they highlight the differences between the user bases, differences that were apparent and noted well before /aco/ was made.

I'd also push for allowing loli, shota, bestiality and guro on /d/ as well. The grey area that is loli/shota has more resulted in restrictions of on-topic content than content specifically fixated in loli/shota. Bestiality is more popular than ever, it's just called "Monster Girls" now: bestiality from the waist down. And there's way weirder stuff posted here than guro or scat. Ponies and furries can take over a board, not niche gurofags.

>>7028766
these are completely responable

>>7028766
This ... sounds nice.

I support allowing western on /d/ again and moving fetish threads back here from /aco/.

I'd like /aco/ to stay though, otherwise there's nowhere to post nsfw western comics, which is what people wanted /aco/ for in the first place.

>>7027891
Why don't you ask those who regularly post on /aco/

>>7028768
yea but he said make it on /qa/
should we move the thread to /qa/?

>>7028761
I'm still pretty opposed to western cartoon porn but I'm not against some kind of compromise.

I know /aco/ was made for /co/ in mind, but, maybe we should discuss this with them. Maybe see if they want to compromise or give a little on what kind of content they'd be willing to have.

>>7028766
I am opposed to parts 1 through 3.
part 5 should result in deletion of the offending content.
Loli isn't on the table and is a global rule and is likely to not change now or ever.

Part 4 looks reasonable. There's no reason why we need, "futas. Futas with green socks. futas with BLUE socks. Futas with green hair and green socks. Futa- "you get the drift. ANd mind you, i'm a futa lover and believe /d/ has been a futa board since inception.

But come on now.

>>7028766
I would sign of on that

>>7028572

The mods don't use the board, as evidenced by how it can take -days- for reported furry stuff to get deleted.

>>7028766
i still think futaloli should be an exception.

>>7028766
sounds good

>>7028770
You talk like a fag and your shits all retarded

>>7028766
kisekae allowed when?

>>7028770
All that bible just to say that you don't like western on your eastern.

>>7028770
>weeaboo
>advocating for pedophilia

Color me shocked.

>>7028783
Kisekae makes me wince. Try not to take it personally but that's the lowest quality garbage I've seen in a while.

>>7028780
it never will be, it's illegal in a lot of places.

>>7028786
it's just healty fun tho

>>7028785
>STILL throwing that word around like you think you know what it means
Stop posting.

>>7028766
i hope this is true

>>7028774
Nobody wants /aco/ deleted


>>7028776
No, he literally said to make it on the boards themselves. He wanted the board users' opinions.

>>7028770
>REEE /aco/ ON MY /d/ NEVEEERR
>oh btw pedo content is fine
kek at your logic.

>>7028795
ah i understand

>>7028787
Loli is allowed on /b/ though, it's never been a legal issue and I don't know where this meme comes from.

>>7028777
>I am opposed to parts 1 through 3.

>not wanting lit/discussion threads

Literally why. Then this would just be a mildly less shitty /h/

>>7028799
On the ealier days it was an issue.

>>7028787
considering its allowed on /b/ thats not the issue.

and noone would treat futaloli the same as loli legally, even countries like australia or canada.

>>7028790
Literally everyone knows what Weaboo means.

>>7028790
You are a weaboo since you hate western content and like eatern content
and you are a pedophile for masturbating to loli and shota
'nuff said.

>>7028766
>>all "alternative" art goes here, regardless of origin. Fanart of an alternative nature is allowed
does this include scat and guro?

>>7028797
>>7028785
Funny, considering some /aco/ material wants shit like Star and Mabel Pines porn.

Not knocking it, mind you. Just pointing out inconsistency.

>>7028785
Every time you post, it's instigating and it's tribalist to the core. Nothing you've posted so far has been productive. You've been unhelpful, ignored repeated attempts at people reaching out and trying to compromise with you. When you post, it's always argumentative and combative. You assert authority of the user base and majority opinion behind yourself and assume to speak for everyone while only speaking for yourself. You've done nothing but complain about "weeaboos" on a board, on an _imageboard_ that was, ostensibly created by, for, and about them, while simultaneously attaching that label erroneously to everyone. and everything that disagrees with your opinion. If any ONE thing could be harmful to this discussion, I could point the finger solely at you.

Please remove yourself from the thread and reconsider why you want _help_ the board when you are hurting the discussion, the thread, and the board by fighting everyone tooth and nail.

>>7028807
If you read the rest of his post you would not need to ask

>>7028807
also shit like furry
define alternative art

>>7028814
>>7028813
w

>>7028805
Not a thing you said in this post is true.
Not me hating western content.
Not me masturbating to loli and shota (since that was not my post)
Not the above making someone a pedophile.
Nor is your definition of what a weeaboo accurate.

I've yet to see you more wrong than this in the thread.
But the night's still young.

>>7028814
global rules

>>7028818
ok
then sounds good to me

>>7028766

This, entirely this. Though, just for a bit of clarity, I'd ask for caption threads to be included in rule 3.
Also, rule 5 should be deletion unless it's obviously intended to be a detriment, I've seen several times when someone was dumping in, say, a no-futa giantess thread and would accidentially post a futa one mid-thread.

>>7028804
Yet he doesn't, somehow.

>>7028811
Nah

>>7028818
to be fair global rules also apply to scat and gore.
The thing is, look at /trash/. Ponies and furries dominate. Extreme fetishes like scat and gore on there are a minority, and would be here as well if allowed. Gurochan is a slow chan, it's not a 24/7 /b/ staple, it's typically kept under control where it's allowed and most of the content is eastern as well. I think it should be allowed on /d/

>>7028800
>Literally why.
Because, figuratively, this is an imageboard and figuratively, it's for posting of images and discussion of images, not a discussion of topics proper, but of the immediate content and aggregate posted.

Figuratively speaking of course.

>>7028827
no, furries can fuck off.

>>7028825
Well I sure am wrong, you convinced me!

>>7028830
>Because, figuratively, this is an imageboard and f
its a discusion of anything, fucking retard

>>7028823
If you have some bullshit semantic argument rattling around in your brain right now like "Weebs are people who think Japan is PERFECT, while I only think it's amazing" then you are the weaboos.

>>7028811
Hey Kittenmod.

>>7028770
Elitist vermin like you are the problem

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>>7028839
>If you have some bullshit semantic argument rattling around in your brain right now like "Weebs are people who think Japan is PERFECT, while I only think it's amazing" then you are the weaboos.
You literally only have to google to get this.

>>7028766
If this is real then this is amazing.

>>7028839
>Hey Kittenmod.
I am of the impression you have run afoul of the mods several times.

The common denominator would remain you.
Entertain that idea a bit.