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Role-Reversal and Gentle Femdom General
-Collared Cutie Edition

ITT:
>related hentai
>greentext
>monster girls
>general lewdness
>dojinshi recommendations
>anime/manga recommendations
>preferably recommendations that are on-topic
>cuteposting
>vocaroos
>friendly discussion

Previous Thread: >>6549538

>What is Role Reversal?
http://rolereversalreader.tumblr.com/post/108492906077/finished-the-faq-for-relationship-role-reversal

New Map:
https://www.zeemaps.com/map?group=1618907

Old Role Reversal Map:
https://www.zeemaps.com/map?group=1239585#

FetLife Group
https://fetlife.com/groups/121948

irc channel: irc.irchighway.net , #gfd

/rr/ and /gfd/ megapastebins:
http://pastebin.com/7NfGfusP
http://pastebin.com/evbfjazh
http://pastebin.com/iQetqpH

Rusefemanon VA work:
https://soundgasm.net/u/Rusfemanon/

Writefags and drawfags welcome!
Kitsune story:
http://pastebin.com/KbnXtAbp

My manager is my mistress (non lewd) by SifSub
http://pastebin.com/TJAvFqgf


http://www.dlsite.com/maniax/work/=/product_id/RJ165291.html
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Topic: Collars and cuffs how do the subs and dommes feel about them?

What are preferred materials for collars and cuffs?

Post related images obviously.
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>>6554334
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>>6554334
Absolutely love em. I would love a concrete way of knowing that I'm hers. I've always wanted to be pulled around on a leash as well, something about her keeping me in line sets me off.
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>>6554338
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>>6554334
Never worn one. I keep wanting to buy one for myself though, even if it's just something for me to wear when I'm on my own.
>tfw no dom to tell you which collars she thinks are cute

Love the idea of having a small dom parading me around the house or just pulling me around by a lead.
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Reminder that everyone is valuable and deserves to be happy, even if they haven't found someone yet.
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>>6554339
Same here. It's solid tangible display of being owned.
So leather or steel collar?
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>>6554343
We /positive/ now.
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>>6554334
love 'em

soft brown leather with brass buckles.
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>>6554343
Thanks, reading that made me feel better, though I don't believe it.
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>>6554343
True.

>>6554346
Sounds comfy
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>>6554334
They're alright. I personally don't care much for them, but I can see the bedroom value in it. Would be fun every once in a while.
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>>6554334
I'd be into cuff play. I like the idea of being completely vulnerable to someone and having them not hurt me because of it.
I'm not particularly into collar stuff, but it wouldn't take any convincing to get me to do it.
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>>6554334
I got a new set recently, purple and black leather set with a set of cuffs and two collars. One slim, feminine one, one big manly one with studs and stuff on.

Already had my girlfriend wearing the little one, I'd really like to find a big bara sub to wear the big one one day.
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Tell me about your first /gfd/ and /rr/ crushes.

Was it an authoritative older lady, like a teacher or a boss? Or a teasing and playful girl closer to your age, like an older sibling's friend?

Was it a shy skinny artsy boy, or that awkward scene/goth boy? An extremely polite and soft-spoken coworker?
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>>6554334
I want a tight, elastic collar that I can feel while breathing (but isn't so tight that it makes breathing difficult). Matching cuffs and a cock collar would be glorious. Don't know if anything like that exists.

>>6554346
Trying! I've been feeling uncharacteristically optimistic and I want to share that.

>>6554352
That's OK, you just keep feeling better and I'll keep believing for you.
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>>6554343
No matter how much I see stuff like this and how much I want to believe it, I just don't.
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>>6554365
Girl my age I met who joined the army. Never heard from her again. I hope she's okay.
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>>6554368

>uncharacteristically optimistic

How I wish I could be like this. Haven't felt optimistic like that in months. Even if deep down I know it's gonna be okay eventually, I'm just not feeling it.
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>>6554368
I'm normally a pretty pessimistic person but your posts are kind of charming. Maybe it's the cute pictures.

>That's OK, you just keep feeling better and I'll keep believing for you.
Don't believe in yourself, believe in the me that believes in you!

>>6554365
Never really had one to be honest. Closest thing I've had was my most recent "partner". She was pretty dominant at first, would tempt me, play games and tease me, make me beg and then suddenly decided she wanted to be a total sub. Kinda sucked, was really confused by it.
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>>6554373
What kind of girls have you met in the army?
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>>6554380
I'm not in the army. She joined the army.
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>>6554368
>elastic
I haven't seen one of those buy I've seen rubber ones that can be very snug.
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>>6554372
>>6554376
I wouldn't have believed it either. I went through some awful depression, triggered by feelings of abandonment. If you keep feeling bad, look for professional help. You aren't alone at all.

>>6554377
I definitely don't get off on making people feel better...
>Don't believe in yourself, believe in the me that believes in you!
Exactly what I was thinking!
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>>6554382
Oh, misread that.
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>>6554373
A girl in my law enforcement class in highschool joined the National Guard. I guess she would be the closest thing to a gfd crush I had. She wasn't really outwardly dominant, in fact we had mostly similar personalities.
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>>6554365
the girl who was 5'10...in sixth grade.

ended up being 6'2 by the end of high school I think. she gave me a piggy back ride once at a party.
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>>6554334
I love collars, especially when my dom has me on a leash.
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>>6554384
Is 8 years long enough? I looked for professional help a while back but it didn't help at all.
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Part 5.
I was wondering, even if the guy is on top, would it still be /gfd/ and/or /rr/ as long as he's being pegged?
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>>6554376
It's all good anon. I used to be severely depressed. I learned to be incredibly selfish and generally only care about myself or people I'm close to. Other people become incredibly optimistic and cheery.

Different strokes, different folks.

>>6554384
You're cool man. I've been hitting the rum for the last two hours and you're making me feel pretty chill.
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>>6554397
I would think so. Post the rest please?
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The renewed list is here.

Animated films:
>Garden of Words
>Kiki's delivery service


Anime/Manga:
>Witch Craft Works
>Freezing
>Madan no Ou to Vanadis
>Morobito: Guardian of the Spirit
>Monster Musume no Iru Ichijou
>Soredemo Sekai wa Utsukushii (The world is still beautiful)
>Akame ga Kill*
>Infinite Stratos
>Accel World*
>The Pet Girl of Sakurasou*
>Danna ga Nani o Itteiru ka Wakaranai Ken
>Tasogare otome x Amnesia
>Tonari no Kaibutsu-kun
>Gekkan Shoujo Nozaki-kun


Manga/Light Novel:
>Kono Onee-san wa fiction desu
>Unbalance x Unbalance
>Oyomegatari
>Sensei Lock-on
>Arakawa under the bridge
>Natsuyuki Rendezvous
>Otomen
>Tramps like us
>Hokago play
>Game Over

*/gfd/ is not the main focus of the story. Don't read/watch it purely for the /gfd/, make sure you enjoy it first and consider the /gfd/ a bonus.

Doujins: http://pastebin.com/5w7qgrM6

Some guys in the previous thread said Arakawa and Mysterious Girlfriend X shouldn't be on the list. I'll leave them on for now and see if more people agree. If enough people oppose it, I'll remove it from the list.
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>>6554396
yes.

also consider medication, if you haven't tried it already. don't be scared of the side affects, you and your doctor can work it out and change the medicine if they're impacting your quality of life.
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>>6554396
10 years here. I just decided it's never going away and I'll just have to live with it.

Though it's starting to hurt. You know that weird pain in your chest, behind your heart that isn't gas or anything like that? I get that a lot, and no it's not because I'm unhealthy, I'm quite the opposite.
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>>6554365
He was a frail alcoholic posh boy with very pale skin and skinny wrists. Once I got drunk and pinned him to the floor and made him repeat after me that I was his physical superior in every way before I'd let him get up.

Shame that didn't work out.
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>>6554384

>professional help

Not like I have the money to fork over. Almost all the money from my job's going to my car payment, gas & food, my parents are already paying off my student loans, car insurance, health insurance, etc.

I can't wrap my mind around why anyone is expected to pay for something like counseling or therapy, much less for cancer treatment, hip replacements, heart transplants... I dunno, maybe I'm just a kooky communist.
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>>6554365
Can't really tell. I had a "girlfriend" in elementary school but other than that I've never really been romantically active. However, for as long as I can remember I've found teachers and older women more attractive than women my age.

>>6554397
>I was wondering, even if the guy is on top, would it still be /gfd/ and/or /rr/ as long as he's being pegged?
If you ask me, it's all attitude. A woman can be on top and still be submissive. Another woman can be on her knees giving her man a blowjob and still be entirely in control.
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>>6554399

>I learned to be incredibly selfish and generally only care about myself or people I'm close to.

This is depressing.
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>>6554383
Hmm, I'll have to take a look. Anything warm and snug that stretches would do the trick.

>>6554396
That's way too long. :-/ I tried different things for a year before finally giving antidepressants a shot.

>>6554397
It's all in the intention. Also repositioning yourself with something up your butt is wonderfully intense.

>>6554399
Aww gee. Don't drink too much! Just enough to get cozy.

>>6554405
Ah, you sound heartbroken. It's a bad feeling but kind of addictive.

>>6554407
Sure your health insurance doesn't cover mental health? Also, your parents sound like they care about you, I'm sure they'd be willing to help you pay for treatment.
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>>6554407
>health insurance

usually if your insurance is any good then it'll cover seeing a counselor, who can also refer you to a psychiatrist :)
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>>6554419
>Ah, you sound heartbroken. It's a bad feeling but kind of addictive.
But I've never met anyone to be heartbroken over. It doesn't really feel good or addictive. For some reason its making my limbs ache as well. I don't know why I feel like this.
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>>6554365
Ok, here's mine.

-Really cool tomboy I knew in high school, captain of the girl's fencing team at some point. Really artsy and outgoing. Probably when I realized how much I like tomboys.

-One time in gym class we had to play one of those annoying tag-like group games because the teachers didn't know what else to do with the students. When I got out a girl who was a year behind me started teasing me hard, calling me tag boy, telling me not to be shy and join her in some game, hung around me a lot and giggled whenever I spilled the spaghetti. She may have been bullying me but I never saw her snicker with her friends, and she was generally cool to me besides that.

>>6554406
That sounded qt.
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>>6554404
>medication
No. I'd rather be sad and know what I'm dealing is real than take meds and run away from reality. Deficiencies are different, but artificially creating happy feelings in my head is something that's never going to happen.

>>6554405
I know the feeling you're talking about. I think it was after about four years that started happening and the suicidal thoughts came on really strong.
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>>6554423
> I'd rather be sad and know what I'm dealing is real than take meds and run away from reality
Good. I'm glad. Meds ruined my life and made me miss out on a lot of things because I stopped caring about them. They don't make you any happier either, they just make you not kill yourself.

Yeah that feeling is new for me, only within the last year. I started off with the thoughts, then the meds took them away and I have them again, but with this shitty new feeling.
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>>6554413
Yeah, I worded that poorly.

I'm not that selfish. Hell, I sent someone 30$ for pizza the other day and I'd only had about 20 words of conversation with him.

I don't know, I'm pretty fuckin' weird with how I treat people. Maybe sheltered is a better word that selfish?

>>6554419
I'm pretty cozy, wrapped up in a blanket, shit posting and watching crappy movies.

Unrelated - I miss being in education. I gave me chances to meet different people. Now I'm in work I just see the same people every day. How do you guys meet people?
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>>6554423
>but artificially creating happy feelings in my head is something that's never going to happe
Yes but brain chemistry is a frail thing that can be easily adjusted. How is that fake?
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>>6554419

They already help me so much in so many ways, I already feel at times like I'm being a burden on them. Whole family's been strapped for cash since the recession, how much more am I gonna ask for?

I really hope insurance can cover something. How much of it, I really don't know. Really worried I'd end up having to pay a bunch out of pocket anyway.
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>>6554432
>Deficiencies are different,
If I'm missing something needed to make happy juice I'm willing to obtain that something. I'm not willing to take something that forces happy juice to be made.
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>>6554407
>Not like I have the money to fork over.
Sucks living in the US. I started going to a therapist and it's free. The only problem is that the sessions can be a bit short and apparently it's going to be once every two weeks.
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>>6554436
But what if that's the only way? Sometimes there are no natural ways to stimulate the body to make needed chemicals.
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>>6554443
Not him but it's not perfect. There's no way to get the exact amount needed at the exact time, and the unintended results are often worse than just dealing with it, at least in my experience.
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>>6554443
If there are no natural ways to make me happy then I'll be unhappy. I'm not going to live a lie.
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>>6554423
Do what makes you feel comfortable. I was worried that medication would change my personality but that hasn't been the case at all.

>>6554429
Really sorry to hear that. Mind if I ask what medication it was?

>>6554434
Definitely find out what your coverage is. Sometimes your provider has a website that can tell you your benefits and help you find in-network doctors.

>>6554436
Some people like ice cream but can't handle dairy without medication. You just have to decide what is more important.
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>>6554440

Yes it does. I feel like the longer I live here and the more I learn about this place the more it drives me fucking crazy.
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>>6554403
I suggest FLCL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ceTgUezZIc0
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>>6554460
>what medication it was
Tried Fluoxetine then Sertraline. Low dose, high dose, it didn't change anything.
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>>6554460
I feel like comparing an allergy to dairy to me not wanting to live in a fake world is a poor comparison.
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>>6554454
>>6554455
If that's how someone feels then okay I guess.
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>>6554455

But anon, most people are already living a lie anyway, we've been doing so since the dawn of western "civilization". Come along and join the rest of us as we lead ourselves to our own extinction!
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>>6554403
While i havent looked up on any of those, i'm wondering if there are any that are not supernatural and have a realistic plot? So far all of them seem to be.
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>>6554471
This maybe a little left field, but do you have cheaply made fillings? Some fillings contain trace amounts of mercury that in some people can cause nigh incurable depression.
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>>6554484
I have perfect teeth.
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>>6554485
Didn't intend for that to sound arrogant, sorry.
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>>6554484
Why the fuck is there a big guy holding a scroll in the back of that image?
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>>6554487
It's okay anon. I still love you all.
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>>6554488
Wizard statue
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>>6554471
>fluoxetine then sertraline

these are shit drugs to be fair

try effexor or escitalopram/lexapro
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>>6554481
I haven't watched/read all of them, but from the ones I've read/watched I can confirm that the following are non-magical/supernatural in nature:

>Garden of Words
>Kono Oneesan wa fiction desu
>Unbalance x Unbalance
>Oyomegatari
>Sensei Lock-on
>Game Over
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>>6554485
>perfect teeth
10/10 Legit my fetish.

>>6554492
Citalopram is good. Used to double dose and zone out.
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>>6554484

>tfw fillings in a bunch of my teeth

You got me scared now, anon. I don't think they were cheaply made but still, you got me freaked out now.
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>>6554492
Effexor is mainly for anxiety, which I don't have. Lexapro is also an SSRI. I really don't want to go down this road again.
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>>6554491
Pretty sure it's Satan encouraging those innocent girls to be lesbians.
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>>6554473
I understand. I personally don't feel like I'm living in a fake world, I just feel less pain/anxiety/depression/fear (which is all "inner world" stuff, if that makes sense). You could try meditation or exercise, really helps some people. Anyway I'll stop, I don't want to hassle you.

>>6554492
Paroxetine reporting in. Had a brief period where my dick didn't work right, kinda sucked but now it's fine.
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>>6554499
I do both excersize and meditation.
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>>6554496
Stay calm take a deep breathe. Talk to your dentist. Tell him it's an allergy concern and they'll have to check it for insurance reasons.

>>6554498
>satan loves lesbians
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>>6554499

I've been exercising for almost 3 months now practically every other day, and yet it doesn't seem to help with the awful mental state I've been in for the past month. I guess I could try meditating as well.
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>>6554499

>brief period where my dick didn't work right

ED? What exactly was the problem? Just curious.
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>>6554511
Not him but I had a similar problem. Complete ED, no feelings of attractiveness towards anything either.
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>>6554497
Effexor is not mainly for anxiety, it makes anxiety worse. Lexapro is an SSRI but it may surprise you that it's a different drug with different side effects which is why it's marketed under a different name.

If you don't like it, you don't have to take it. But you do owe it to yourself to try.
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>>6554514
>tfw no slobbish Misato onee-san to cook for and clean up after
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>>6554363
>one big manly one with studs and stuff on
jeez, that sounds great. ESPECIALLY on a qt bara sub.
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>>6554401
Sure.
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>>6554546
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>>6554548
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>>6554546
These are amazing BTW. Exactly the sort of relationship I'd like to be in, although I'd have to pretend to be hesitant about pegging.
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>>6554549
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>>6554551
>5'4
>dom
Dream material right here.
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>>6554334
I like that stuff. Bondage things in general. No better way to lose control.

>>6554365
My stepsister had a friend who took a liking to me. She would make me sit in her lap and would playfully slap my butt whenever she got the chance. We got along pretty well too. Then my stepsister caught us making out one time and things got weird. Were still friends tho. Just not more than that.

>>6554550
>I'd have to pretend to be hesitant about pegging.
Ditto.
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>>6554551
And this is the one that comes before the page I posted on >>6554397

>>6554550
Thank you! It started as a study of a relationship with good communication and in the way it actually helped me realise a few things to improve my own relationship, haha
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>>6554558
>It started as a study of a relationship with good communication
I was just about to ask you to keep including panels/strips with sex talk. It's like the hottest part.
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>>6554550
>>6554557
I'm quite lucky that the domme I've been playing with has already said that they'd like to peg me at some point. Just working on stuff with each other and getting to a point where we can make it happen logistically.
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>tfw a guy compares you to Ronda Rousey

d-did I make it gfd
is this how I find a qt bara sub to mother the shit out of
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>>6554558
This >>6554560 it makes it feel more real.
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>>6554563
that's pretty freaking cool, Ronda Rousey is badass. good luck!
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>>6554563
Shit, you're gonna make some guy happy as fuck.
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>>6554365
Oh gosh I think I just figured myself out. I have an older cousin who I pretty much had a crush on (I was only six years old). She would talk to me like an equal but she'd also tease me about my height by resting her arm on my head. Sometimes we'd walk to the corner store and she'd buy me ice cream. I really want to recapture that feeling.
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>>6554365
He and I were the two "gifted" kids in our tiny rural school. We spent a lot of time in "independent study", aka the teacher made us go to the copy room and read the encyclopedia and other reference books. We talked a lot about stuff. We even made our own version of D&D. He understood be being teased for being a tomboy because he got teased for being a "sissy" (he really wasn't that girly, he just didn't like sports).

Our siblings played sports together so we'd be left alone to explore the forest while they were at the ball field. Lots of childhood wrestling and I would always win.

Had no classes together in middle school and fell apart a lot. Reconnected a bit in high school. But at that point I'd "fallen in with the wrong crowd" and had to keep up a badass imagery so people didn't kick the shit out of me for dating girls. Everyone, including him, probably assumed I was a lesbian.

We met on a major fluke about four years ago. I was in the city to write my LSAT and he went to the university it was being written in and was doing a summer internship. I had no makeup on, in sweats (which I almost never am), hair was a total mess. And he was in a suit. I could have died.

I really couldn't stay to talk, I was running late. But he had a bag of oatmeal cookies he'd made himself for his lunch and he gave them to me to eat during the break for good luck and walked me to the building so I wasn't late trying to find it.

I actually sent him a card through his mom (who my mom still sees sometimes) thanking him. I aced the LSAT, got into my first choice school. But after he graduated he moved to another country to work for some big engineering company. I know he makes a lot of money now and I'm still scrapping by while I do my articling.

This has made me miss him so much.
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>>6554563

knowing that there's a gfd girl who actually gets compared to rousey makes me so happy

but at the same time i'm not bara at all sigh i just want to get thrown around
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>>6554574
Similar experience with some friends of my older sister. I understand the feeling of liking someone older who takes you seriously.

>>6554580
That was a wonderful little story, thanks for sharing. I'm sure he appreciated the card.
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>>6554580
I was also in gifted ed. I think I had crushes on nearly all the girls in the program, especially the really serious ones.
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>>6554560
>>6554565
Really? I'm really, really glad to hear that, here I was thinking that people would eventually say "someone please shut her up", haha. Alright, I'll go back to adding more dialogues!
Any other suggestions are welcome too!
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>>6554603
That was one thing I always resented in school, people using "serious" as an insult.

Also my face kind of just looks stern. I'm a pale brunette too so I'm like a boss character all the time. I'm not mean, I swear.

>>6554563
You made it. I'm still super dyel but working on it with Stronglifts. I just wanna be an Amazon but will always be 5'6"...
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>>6554365
Had a girlfriend towards the end of highschool who was ~2 years older than me and we referred to each other as little brother/big sister etc. Shit like that.
Was also crazy, in the bedroom and the rest of her life. Constantly talked about wanting to peg me, would often cuff me to the bed and edge me with two fingers in my ass. Among other things.

Was a fun time but the aftermath was NOT worth it at all.
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Everyone always told me I looked really angry in highschool. To the point where my law enforcement teacher pulled me off after class a couple of times to talk to me about it. I just with people would have tried to connect with me more.

>>6554626
Lady knights are better anyway...
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>>6554626
As someone over 6 foot, being sub to someone that's not only shorter than me but potentially stronger than me sounds amazing. I wouldn't worry about being 5'6.
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>>6554626
Ah, the dreaded "bitch face." I personally see it as a challenge to make a girl smile. I don't want one of those sluts who will smile for just anything.

Has for height etc; just find that guy that makes you feel like an amazon. I'd gladly have a five-foot girl lord over me.
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She walks over to me, throws me on the bed, takes her clothes off and pushes her pussy in my face.

>"Forces" me to lick it
>I start licking her
>Im flicking my tongue on her clit, she is moans in passion
>I go around the lips, back on the clit, back around same way, back on the clit, then full circle and repeat
>She tells me im a good boy
>I go around and flick, then push my tongue in her pussy and flick it back immediately
>She cums vocally

She moves down

>Starts passionately kissing me
>Licks my nipples
>Teases me down my stomach
She leads me down the bed on my knees

>Starts rubbing her feet on my dick
>Lovingly talks me through it
>I cum over my belly
>She laughes, clearky statisfied and turned on


A man can dream.
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>>6554626
>>6554647
Feeling those "serious" expression feels. Everyone always told me how sad looked even when nothing particularly bothered me. Got lots of "why so serious/sad, anon?" questions back then. Might be why I smile a lot about silly things nowadays.
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>>6553887
Thank you for posting that. What you went through as a child was completely wrong and nobody should have to suffer through that. That kind of withholding of empathy is nothing but harmful, especially from the people who are supposed to be there for you in life.

In a really weird way I can relate to what you said about parents screwing with you emotionally. When my parents were happy with me they'd swear up and down that I could be a better painter than Michelangelo without any practice, and when they were mad I was an annoying disabled immature weirdo who was going to be messed up for the rest of his life. Eventually I had to take everything they said with a pile of salt.

What you describe as a good relationship is exactly what I'd like, but what I've been told my entire life is unrealistic and impossible. I will admit part of it is me being lazy and not wanting to mess up, but another part of it is a feeling that anyone I date could do better than me. Why would I want to fight to keep a girl with me and my issues when she could be happier with someone else? That isn't even getting into GFD with mountains of subs for dommes to pick from. Either I'm up front about who I am and get passed over, or I lie and have more of that for however long the relationship lasts.

That isn't getting into what a huge deal breaker it is to have an almost exclusively insane family. Not insane in an emo they won't let me drive the Mercadies way, but insane in a "grandpa owned a nazi uniform, uncle basically murdered his dad, the holocaust is a lie and other grandpa is vocally worried about the government sponsored Mexican invasion of Napa" way. I can't completely separate myself from them, because they claim my life will fall apart without them helping me with it. Given how much they lie, I don't know if that's true.

Pushing through all of that to find an intelligent and attractive girl who likes me better than anyone else doesn't seem like it would be worth the effort.
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Aww, all you poor serious girls. Where I live everyone is always wearing a fake smile, I can't stand it.
>no stone-faced girlfriend that I can read like a book and play like an instrument
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>>6554674
>a feeling that anyone I date could do better than me
I struggle with this, too. But I'm realizing that I assume too much about what others want from a relationship. Poking around FetLife made that pretty clear. I'm sure there's a girl out there for you. Maybe with an equally crazy family and a need to share some gentle, unpoisoned love.
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>>6554674
>another part of it is a feeling that anyone I date could do better than me

I definitely get this. The guy I have a crush on right now is just so much smarter than me. He works harder. He's achieved more. He has his issues (anxiety, probably borderline autism) but he's so bubbly and friendly. But every girl he dates turns out to be an asshole.

And yet I can't see us together because he'd eventually realize what a fuckup I am and dump me.

I just hate feeling inferior constantly. Thanks for sharing, Anon. I definitely know what it's like to have a fucked up family. I constantly think that no matter who I bring home, a girl or an rr boy, they'd leave me after they saw my family.

>>6554677
I've discovered at least the stone face is good for practicing law. Having a very serious default expression helps when a judge is grilling you. I can be completely at a loss for words and still look like I know what I'm doing.
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>>6554403
I got a real awkward /ss/ boner during the Alessi arc of JoJo, on the topic of anime
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>>6554785
>>6554708
>>6554674
Do it. Taking the risk and getting disappointed is better than being stuck with that god awful thought of "what if?" lingering in the back of your head.
Yes, I've been turned down quite a bit but I still feel it's worth it.
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>>6554785
>But every girl he dates turns out to be an asshole.
Well in that case at least you wouldn't be a low point. Go and save him from his terrible taste in women already.
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>>6554785
>And yet I can't see us together because he'd eventually realize what a fuckup I am and dump me.

If he has anxiety issues I doubt he'd be ready to judge people as beneath him like that. I'd think he'd be more worried about measuring up, himself.
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>>6554708
I wouldn't have believed you if not for the person who posted under you. There definitely are people who have awful families and want a good relationship. The trouble for me will be getting physically away from my family once I can afford to.

>>6554785
Thanks for being so empathetic.

I don't know if this will make you feel better, but I'm a friendly, bubbly guy with a 4.0 GPA, have done things I've proud of, and have anxiety and a communication disorder like I said. I wouldn't care at all if a girl I was dating had a screwed up family, because having a screwed up family doesn't make you screwed up. Don't sell yourself short either. If you're a practicing lawyer and holding your own in the courtroom even when you're at a loss, you are a smart person.

I can't speak for the guy, but you are not a fuckup and having a bad family doesn't make you one. When you do bring someone home, they could be the kind of person who snuggles you when you're feeling sad and talks about how they completely understand. Even if they don't know firsthand what it's like to have a screwed up family, they can know that you're fantastic and aren't defined by your relatives.
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>>6554800
I don't have an it to do! There aren't any girls in my life I could realistically ask out, and I'm living with my parents at 20.
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>decide to make an fl account to see if there are any munches in my area
>there is
>see who's going
>they're ALL fat
>fucking all of them
>except for one who has wax on her tits

This is the life I've made for myself. If I cut out my testes will I still want to be in a relationship with someone?
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>>6554825
So? There's hotels and other ways to go about this. Who knows maybe the one to catch your attention will have an apt or house!

>>6554828
Honestly FL isn't a very nice place. I wouldn't judge a munch without going at least once.

On that note has anyone checked meetup.com to see if it has GFD or maybe just bdsm groups?
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>>6554821
Thanks for the shoulder, Anon. It's kind of anti-rr in that he's also a lawyer (well, we're both articling to become lawyers) and we're just on totally different paths. He's specializing in corporate and I spend a lot of time talking to drunks. Mind you, my boss loves to trot me out to clients because I went to a good university and I'm usually the only person in the office dressed nicely enough to meet clients.

And, of course, we now live a couple thousand miles apart. But we made plans for a Christmas meetup when I'm home and I already found him a perfect gift.

gfd story about the two of us:
>No idea how the topic at the house party turned to strength but it did
>Crush: "Bet you can't lift me."
>He's like 6'1" but skinny as hell, maybe 160lb
>been working construction with my dad since I was like twelve
>immediately get him into bridal carry and hold him easily
>everyone thinks it's hilarious
>I carry him around for like twenty minutes while he holds my whiskey glass and feeds me liquor when I ask for it

Woke up the next morning hungover and dying of embarrassment. We never talked about it again.
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>>6554853
That's why my family is a problem. If I tried to move out without them wanting me to, they'd blackmail me into staying "because they want me to have a good life." I wouldn't put identity theft or forced institutionalization past them. I'm going to play along until my life is separate from theirs.
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>>6554862
see image

>>6554865
I'd say tell them off. Seriously if they can't take a hint call them all fucking morons and walk out on them when you can support yourself.
Worse case get a court order against them to leave you the hell alone.
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We need to make a RR/GFD dating app. Call it "Pegboard".

>>6554862
>that fucking story
Not big into stronk girls but damn.
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>>6554862
See? You went to a good university, dress better than everyone else in your office, and your boss is using you to impress clients. You're definitely smart and accomplished.

That story is adorable and you're really brave to GFD him at a party like that. At least you know he isn't opposed to it, since he let you carry him around and fed you whiskey when you asked. I still can't speak for him, but from what you said it sounds like you're in good position with him aside from the distance. If you got him a gift you know he's going to love, it's going to improve.

>>6554871
My plan is to walk out when I can support myself, but I can't now. They're paying for college and I'm only in my second semester.
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>tfw just took one of the best nudes of my entire life
>realized I had no qt to send it to for the first time in over a year

sigh
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>>6554891
Are you trying to make me ask for your nudes? Because it's working.
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>>6554896
yes/no/i don't know i'm so confused but also horny

this general will destroy me if i post nudes again though
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>>6554906
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>>6554907
you alright there friend
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>>6554910
No.
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>>6554906
Well I'd like to help you become more/less confused, even if you have to send them to me personally to ogle.
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>>6554913
what's the deal
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>>6554917
I'm fucking insane and I know it.
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>>6554889
Understandable. I wish you the best of luck.

>>6554906
If you want post on /soc/ then link us here.
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>>6554915
fuck it i'm in the mood i guess

do you have a throwaway email or
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>>6554925
Oh hell yes. Full disclosure I'm a guy who like both girls and cute guys.
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>>6554929
o then no
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>>6554923
Thanks.
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>>6554933
Why no? Out of curiosity.
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>>6554853
How do I find out about munches outside of fl?
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>>6554944
I do not want to send my nudes to men
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>>6554947
Check for online groups I suppose. >>6554950
That's fair.
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>>6554952
*sigh* that's not helpful. :/
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>>6554963
Think of how prevelant social media is these days. It won't be hard to find something with a bit of google-fu.
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>>6554967
Already looked.
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Out damned name field
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>>6554334
I wouldn't mind wearing a collar if I love the person I'm with. Would send a strong enough message that I'm hers and that she wants me.

Then again, I seem to get turned on just from the idea of someone wanting me so I dunno.
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>>6554976
This is yaoi
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>>6554988
FUG I think you're right. Baleeted.
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I'm drunk and feeling sad. anyone want to talk?
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>>6554994

I love talking, Fire away.
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>>6554994
I'll talk too, at least between floors in Binding of Isaac. Unfortunately I'm scraping the bottom of my picture barrel.
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>>6554994
Writing Final paper but I can lend a ear.
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>>6554994
Eh I'm around.

>>6554999
BoI is fun, I just wish I had the time to earn my own way to Real Platinum God. I wanted the items though...
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>>6555002
I think it's more reasonable to get RPG in the expansion. Had an insane Lost run earlier with Glass Cannon, Polyphemus, Whore of Babylon, and Death's Touch. I was taking out multiple rounds in Greed mode with one shot.
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>>6554994

If you meant talking someplace else, you can message me, but just about everyone here is willing to talk either way.
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>>6554996
I went to my grandparent's 50th anniversary party stag and got real sad when the romantic slow dance music came on so i started hitting the free liquor a bit hard. Feels like no one wants a hairy bara man around here.
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>>6554994
Do you want to sit on my lap anon while I rub your back and tell you tales of soviet-Capital shift in the 80's-90's along with the horrors it brought?
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>>6555006

>hairy bara man

I mean, they're more popular than you're probably thinking. Much more.

Also, pardon the ignorance, but what is
>stag
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>>6555004
I mean, I just like sitting down and playing a game every now and then. I don't have the time, especially with the various girls, dommes, etc I'm involved with at this point, to grind for shit. So I grabbed a save just before Afterbirth came out.
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>>6555007
that would be nice. there was a cute girl in one of my classes that was studying the rise and fall of the soviet union. I tried asking her out without success.
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>>6555002
>>6555004
>tfw have BoI on Vita
>been trying to get all Lost achievements before Afterbirth is ported over
>finally cleared boss rush hard
>die to isaac in the most stupid way possible

Well, at least the difficult part is done.
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>>6555011
>I don't have the time, especially with the various girls, dommes, etc I'm involved with at this point, to grind for shit.
are you trying to make me sad (jk)
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>>6555010
stag means to go without a date.
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>>6555017
It sounds...well kinda like how it is.

I have a switch who's been topping me, but they have four partners and damn near no free time.

There's a girl I'm going out with Monday who I've been flirting with a while via text.

There's someone i've been doing an online thing with.

There's another person who's interested in subbing for me.

It's complicated and I'm having to use a Google calendar just to keep my weeks straight. Multiple people for lewd/kinky things sounds great, but it's a lot of juggling. Esp for me, an introvert.
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>>6555021

>Esp. for me, an introvert

How did you even end up in your current situation anyway?

What the fuck am I doing wrong
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>>6555021
>>6555024
Yeah tell me your secrets and I will let you in on sick Isaac strats.
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>>6555018

Oh. I've never heard that before.

But I dunno man, the sappy music always gets me. Especially in a situation like that, where there's probably couples everywhere. Were there lots of people there?
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>>6555021
Juggling sucks, but it has it's perks.
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Some days I'm glad it's not legal for me to drink yet. Because I'd end up a fat slob.
Other days I really don't care. Like today.
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>>6555024
>>6555026
The online girl is someone who I befriended on IRC ages ago. We got to doing some lewd roleplay and both of us really enjoyed it, to the point where we decided we wanna pursue more.

The girl who wants to sub for me irl I met on IRC as well, then we hung out at a few local kink events. They know I have a decent amount of strength and knowledge enough of where & how to hit a person, so there's that.

The next was also (hurr durr) IRC. Went to a party at their house and talked with them a lot. Lots of flirting led to hanging out a lot. And now we're trying to schedule play and hanging out in-between their four partners.

The last I met at a munch at random, chatted for a while, and they gave me their number without my prompting. We've been chatting and flirting a lot online, and maybe there will be more if she's ok with poly stuff.

What I"ve done is just talked to them a lot, flirted, worked on building friendships, then getting to a point of exploring more. The one with four partners, we're not in a dating thing, but hell, that's just because they have FOUR PARTNERS. They barely have time for that, haha.

Just become friends with people you like and be honest about what kinda relationship you want? Idk, I've stumbled into literally everything.
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>>6555012
I was only a teen, but I can tell you stewed meat and macaroni every night was one hell of a treat!
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>>6554563
>/gfd/ girls getting your hopes up

Why does it hurt?
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>>6555034

I don't even understand how to get into situations in which there are like-minded people around me like that. I don't even know where to go or what to do. I don't even have any real hobbies anymore besides coming on the internet like this and doing what I'm doing right now.

Or how to ask someone to hang out later. Or carry conversations without all the small talk. Or get contact info. Without being wretchedly awkward and nervous.

FUCK
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>>6555051
It was six or seven months doing stuff in my local kink scene before any of this happened. And...come to think of it, everyone has given me their data. Not really the reverse. I can ramble on which helps me, but I'm totally awkward as hell.

The person who's helped me build up the most confidence though, is the domme I've been playing wtih...who has almost a kink for awkward people. So yeah....
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>>6555028
over 100, but they were all relatives. when everyone started slow dancing it made me feel really sad. there was a mariachi band that was playing the most romantic stuff and i had no one to share it with. Ive never danced before but at that moment i felt extremely alone.
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Here's some reading material for tonight, /gfd/.
http://www.whatiscodependency.com/10-tips-to-spot-emotionally-unavailable-emotional-unavailability/
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>>6555012
You couldn't ask her because you ran out of time? I can tell you being on the fall part of it wasn't exactly fun or "Free" as some made it out to be. A time of having too much of one useless thing and having too little of something really useful. I'm no Vatnik, but I can say now is the best time despite useless sanctions.
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>>6555055

Man I would feel so fucking weird going to one of those kink events, or munches, or whatever you call them, especially by myself. What are they even like, most of the time? I'm sure it depends on the occasion.
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>>6555074
Munches are just like any other group meeting, food, drinks, ect.
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>>6555074
>>>
Munches are just people hanging around eating, talking, relaxing. Parties are often similar, but with play going on.

I've gone to a lot alone. The one I met the girl I'm seeing Monday, I went with someone else, but we weren't like, attached at the hip the whole time.

The party I refer to where I first hung out with the domme who has many partners was a casual kinda thing, just a house party, not really a play party.
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>>6555071

>Your date may hint or even admit that he or she isn’t good at relationship or doesn’t believe in or isn’t ready for marriage. Listen to these negative facts and believe them. Ignore vulnerability, bragging, and compliments.

Jesus fuck
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>>6555080
Fuck it, I'm going to check out one of these munches. Worst case scenario I never see any of those people again.
>>
You guys ever have the one friend that just likes to casually dom you or for some reason in my case take the mother role without much consent?
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>>6555089
No
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>>6555088
Good man! I wholeheartedly recommend them!
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>>6555088

Yeah I may have to do the same thing. I'm sure FL has plenty of shit.
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>>6555071
Seems to be b8 to me m8
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>>6555084
I was more talking about the 10 things after that. But that one works too.
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>>6554334
I want BDSM fags to go
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>>6555101
But femdom falls under the BDSM spectrum, gentle or not.
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>>6555101
GFD is a bdsm subset, ya dingus
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>>6555102
Gfd != femdom
Read the FAQ.
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>>6555072
it was a year ago. she was cute but she was not all that into me. much like the russian population on communism
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>>6555092
Then I shall not share! but in synopsis close friend of mine has taken to the mothering role after watching me go through four failed relations, tried to get her to stop but now it's elevated to struggle snuggle and questionable status of my strength.
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>>6555104
Which one? There's only an faq for /rr/.
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>>6555100

Oh wow, I didn't even get to that part.

This is some crazy shit.

>Are you angry at the opposite sex? Do you like jokes at their expense?
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>>6555105
Eh, that's debatable I mean a good chunk of us wanted something similar to the Soviet state still as a way of not giving up entirely on the system but that was ignored promptly especially with the constitutional crisis. I'm sorry to hear that, but I'm sure there are others no?
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>>6555109
At least you guys think it's ridiculous. I was really worried I was a complete piece of shit for a bit there.
I mean, I am. But MORE of a piece of shit than before.
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>>6555112

I mean there are bits and pieces in there that make some sense, but shit like those ten "red flags" is absolutely ridiculous. It's basically telling people to look for perfection and anything less is a red flag.
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>>6555110
there was another girl in the writers club that i met right after but i fucked up because i was still feeling like shit from being rejected by the first girl
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>>6555129
forgot an image. getting rejected three times in semester struck a huge blow to my confidence. I just gave up on finding someone who would like me. only within the past couple of months have i been feeling up to building a relationship.
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>have a friend who gives me JOI weekly
>every time she tells me to shoot right into my mouth, or, worse, lick it up
>tried it once
>super slimy and the saltiest thing on earth
>spit it out the first time despite her saying to swallow
>haven't been able to do it despite her telling me weekly
>just tell her I do it
Do you eventually get used to it or something?
I don't wanna change my diet just because I wanna eat my cum
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>>6555172
Wow, hands to you man I couldn't do it even if my friend collects it in her palm and tries to get it in my mouth. You don't have to change your diet though.
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>tfw no gfd gf to sing sweet songs to

I just want to serenade a strong lady

heres my image, forgive the blogpost
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It's been ages since I've come here, it's usually such a lovely place. I haven't read the thread but I hope I don't see any shitposts on the way down.
>>6554365
She was a girl I met on my middle school's academic team when I was in the seventh grade. She was in the grade ahead of me. I always looked up to her--she was smart, pretty, and cared for me like a big sister.
I fell for her during the state championship for our academic competitions. I was the captain, and she'd always be so supportive of me between rounds, and we'd go off on our own and talk as well. When we were walking back to the bus after the whole thing, she put her arm around me, and that's when it happened.
She would often tease me, and call me her husband, since in a play we were in, we got married.
In high school, she became the highest rank in the schools' JROTC; she looked so good in uniform.
In high school, though we were still friends, we didn't talk as much, but there were times where I felt close to her. I was always too beta then to make any moves, though I had all the chances in the world.
We're at different colleges now, and it's probably been a year since I had any contact with her. I've mostly moved on but I think about her sometimes.
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>>6555172
>>6555174
I've never had a problem with recycling.
And I have no relevant image for this. Crap.
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>>6554365
She had to be the only woman I've met and gotten to go out with that honestly just, for the lack of words, "drained" me. Like her presences just sucked the energy out of me for some reason like I was big 6'3" but she towered over me, lorded over me with her height and weight. Her chubby and yet, fit body kept me intoxicated specifically when she wanted me to roll over like some pet nd take her loving, fighting back was pointless my arms would turn to noodles as soon as she got ahold of my wrist...God I miss that broad.
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>>6555249
>tfw no operator gf who will indefinitely detain you for plotting terrorist attacks on her heart
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>>6555249
>>6555306
As far as I know, these three are the only ones in the set.
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>>6555249
>>6555306
>>6555307
Insurgent commanders can only hide for so long from these women.
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>>6555172
Start by licking up the precum mid-session. It'll help you ease in to the taste and texture. Also I'd just ask her to help talk you through it instead of lying. Then it's more personal.
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>>6554590
>>6554626
I'm not as big as her or anything, I just look a lot like her in the face and I lift so when I posted a progress pic in a workout group, someone said I look like her. Still, it made me super happy.

>>6555050
What do you even mean?
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>get job few months ago
>now new car
>feels like i'm getting shit in order and being real adult
>still no one to come home to and cuddle with and get pats from and cook for and worship
why even both ;-;
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>>6555094
Why is this position so amazing for paralyzing guys?
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>>6554551
>5'4
>1.4m
Not quite sonny
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>>6555368
I think he's supposed to be teasing her.
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>>6555172
Eat more citrus, it tastes bad because your diet's bad.
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>>6555371
With what? Bad metric conversions?
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>>6555336
You can't become a proper husbando without practice. Try cooking and cleaning for yourself first. [spoiler]That's what I'm doing[/spoiler]
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>>6554540
>normally he doesn't let anyone touch him
Alright, I hnnng'd.
Sauce?
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>>6555089
>>6555107
No, but please do tell. I'm very interested to hear your story, anon.
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So petplay eh? You guys know theres already a thread for that, right?
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>stumble across a hot friend on fetlife
>he's interested in femdom

IT
BEGINS
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>>6555597
good luck
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>>6555373
Yep, he's teasing her. I originally wrote 1.50 but changed it to 1.40 to make it more obvious. Though I guess he doesn't know what's the formulae to convert feet to cms either, but he is able to tell she's somewhere close to 1.60.
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Who /beingusedfortheirbody/ here? I have a friend who I have been in love with forever and we've hooked up a few times, but she's always said no to a relationship because 'it might ruin things'. But whenever she has relationship troubles we end up hanging out at my place and she get's really aggressive with me.

Just last night she was "on a break" and we watched some netflix to help her feel better and then she just hopped on top of me and rubbed herself against my crotch. She ended up finishing on her own and then cleaned up and left with nary a word. I feel like this is how girls who are booty calls feel desu.

Any tips for breaking out of the cycle?
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>>6555647
Have you tried asking her to stop?

Do you not want anything physical with her?
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>>6555647
http://www.whatiscodependency.com/10-tips-to-spot-emotionally-unavailable-emotional-unavailability/
Kill her.
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>>6555650
She started out last night by saying "I'm having bad thoughts" all flirty and I said "Well let's just watch another episode of Trailer Park Boys instead!" because I honestly am feeling tired of falling in that cycle.

But literally in the middle of the episode she just got on top and I couldn't stop myself... I feel so not in control when she's like that.
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>>6555647
>Just last night she was "on a break" and we watched some netflix to help her feel better and then she just hopped on top of me and rubbed herself against my crotch. She ended up finishing on her own and then cleaned up and left with nary a word.
sue her for rape
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>>6554365
She was a year younger than I was, surprisingly, quite a bit shorter, me being about 5'10" her being maybe 5'2-3". She was just that girl that seemed like she had her shit together and she was planning on going into the marines. I had honestly felt like we had a connection until a christmas party at the end of 2011 where her feelings about me changed on a dime.

It was like something out of a bad movie, instantaneously she went from sitting in my lap to wouldn't even look at me for the rest of the night. Still was never told why, but I heard that she now identifies as male so that's the reason I tell myself.

Anyways, shit took a turn for the worse and it took me until mid 2014 to stop feeling sorry for myself. I've tried to get my life on track since. and might have found another girl who seems like she might be RR. I hope.
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>>6554384
could you/someone post the other ones
Also
>avoid meat
U avin' a giggle?
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>>6554384
also
>recommending no weight lifting
>doing deadlifts with a dumbbell
>picture of deadlift is actually Romanian dead lifts
>thinking bodyweight leg extensions do anything
>increased estrogen and decreased test results in lower bodyfat
>thinking no fap does fuck all
>being so weak that you need C25K
10/10 triggered
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>>6555622
The question now is how aggressively can I pounce on him without being a creep.

Bearing in mind that my girlfriend is also intrigued by this and we're finna tag team him.

I sorta think we might terrify him.

O well. WWRD (what would Rachnee do)
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>>6555953
>>6555951
you're mostly right except that's clearly a barbell lmao

though, a lot of this is skincare advice mixed in with fitness advice. the food isn't bad from a perspective of having soft skin and pleasant body odor, but the fitness advice is literally pointless.
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>>6555964
>getting tag teamed by two girls

why the fuck do i go in these threads all they do is make me sad
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>>6555969
Why don't you just have a nice wank instead of getting sad about it?

Alternatively, move to the UK and be a muscular masochist with a nice smile. We'll bite. Probably. See how the homomancy is waxing that day.
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>>6555990
i can't get off without someone else honestly

but
>muscular masochist with a nice smile
actually fits me fairly well and i'm probably headed there in august actually??
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>>6555006
I know that feeling.. tfw 6'2 and look like Bigfoot. Feels bad,especially when most gfd porn has these hairless cute boys,meanwhile I look like king kong
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>>6555653
Hmm sounds like you're her "safe place" I.E. an emotionally supportive and there to help her relieve sexual frustrations, but instead of this being a good thing you're getting boned because she's not giving you the serious relationship option because she's afraid it'll fall apart and she'll have one less reliable person in her life.

>>6555964
>WWRD (what would Rachnee do)
Gag him before he can say "No, means no"?
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>>6555996
Oh cool, whereabouts?

>>6556014
Hmm, probably, but I'm not sure I can rope as fast as she can silk. I'll work on that!
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>>6556011
There's plenty of love here for tall guys. Can't say the same for hairy guys but there's quite often posts about >tfw no bara sub - close enough I guess?

>>6555990
I swear we're all fags in this country.
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>>6556020
I'm trying to climb a buncha mountains in the UK and also go to glasgow and london but I'm not 100% sure yet!
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>>6555967
>>6555953
What do you guys recommend for fitness then? Is a basic linear progression program good enough for a newbie?
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>>6556059
You should read the /fit/ sticky
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>>6556059
Just do starting strength
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>>6556014
Sounds more like he's her "emotional tampon"
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>>6556059
I always find it funny when people say cardio is worthless.
Having a strong heart is important. Do cardio if nothing else. You're not looking to get big for cuteboy aesthetics.
Light resistance training and cardio is the best for just about anyone unless they're looking to be some sixpack fag.
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>>6556059
If you want something gfd based, do deadlifts until you get too muscly+some bodyweight stuff for your abdominals obliques etc (google plank/pushup progressions) and then keep up with the bodyweight stuff and do weighted hip thrusts for cute buns. Correct for muscle imbalances as needed, but by the time you get to the point where you might want to stop with the deadlifts you'll be fairly comfortable doing it on your own.

Focus on lifting more each time you work out, try not to go much higher than 8 reps and no lower than 4. If you find yourself stalling on a lift or a movement, try doing an exercise that isolates one of the weaker muscles used in the earlier lift/movement for a while and coming back to it.
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>>6556090
You don't magically get big overnight, but if you do the main lifts you'll get better posture.

>looking to be some sixpack fag

...this is far from incompatible with cuteboy aesthetics
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>>6556090
oh also strength training builds your heart almost as much as cardio does, with the advantage of not having that really horrible scratchy short of breath feeling that running gives me.
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>>6556092
Is focusing on squats (like in stronglifts, etc) going to make your legs too big?
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>>6556098
Do you have a source for this? I somehow doubt 8 reps builds the same endurance as 20 minutes of running does.
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>>6556090
Issue is that doing cardio promotes testosterone development which is what you're trying to avoid if you're following these stupid ass charts.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19301220

If you want to look girly just fucking lose weight and put some effort into your skin and hair. Do squats and some curls.

>>6556099
No. Doing SS is known for making you a T-Rex. SL doesn't suffer from this nearly as much.

>>6556103
Not him, but I think this is what he's talking about.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10204826
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>>6556097
Post your nudes bro
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>>6556106
>http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10204826
All I'm getting from this is that the cardio group lost more weight.
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>>6556103
8 reps across 3 sets will, for sure.
http://www.bodyforwife.com/the-cardio-vs-weights-cheat-sheet/

scroll down to the part where it tells you about oxidative/glycolytic systems.
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>>6556138
Yeah, I wasn't 100% on whether that's the one he was talking about it.

>>6556134
>tfw he won't do it
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>>6556162
considering it

how does 5'6 120 pounds sound
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>>6556144
And all I got from this one was that weight lifting is anaerobic and doesn't strengthen the heart like aerobic exercises do.
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>>6556172
you didn't scroll down to the part I told you to dipshit

using the oxidative system=aerobic. aerobic means it uses O2.
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Is anyone interested in making a qtboy fashion guide?
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>>6555374
well i basically do that, sure i still live at home but i buy my own food, cook my meals, clean on my days off and do my laundry. just no one to come home to ;_;
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>>6556179
Yes, exactly. I don't think you understand what you're reading.

>>6556181
This would be nice.
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>tfw 5'10" and buying heels so I'll be 6'2"
>tfw tottering around like a newborn deer
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>>6556194
>3-5 minutes of moderate exercise works both the glycolytic and oxidative systems

I don't see how you could misread that

a set of eight deadlifts takes about a minute.
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>>6556172
Just ask /fa/. They all dress like fags anyway.

>>6556205
I wore heels once at a New Years party. Being 6'8 was strange... Or maybe it was the dress.
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>>6556206
You mean this quote?
>3 minutes Low Oxidative
Greater than three minutes of low intensity workout uses the Oxidative system.
You're also ignoring the part where he specifically says that wright lifting does not work the Oxidative system, but does work the Phosphagen System.
3 sets of 8 does not a continuous workout make. If you did in place jogging in-between sets it might.
Yet he still later goes on to say that weights do not offer the same workout for the heart as cardio does.
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>>6556213
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whatever this is boring, you clearly don't actually lift or run because of the level of newbie shit you've said already. do your own actual research and you'll find that weightlifting is more than enough for building your heart and aesthetics
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>>6556222
I don't lift, no. But I do run and do bodyweight exersizes. Don't act like I don't know what I'm talking about when I source the same article as you do, but I actually read it instead if cherry picking it.
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>>6556236
you don't know what you're talking about if you make as broad of a generalization as "weightlifting doesn't use the oxidative system."

period

at all
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>>6556246
I'm sure low intensity extended weight lifting does work the Oxidative system. Three sets of eight reps with rests in-between doesn't. You're obviously extremely defensive about this and you still haven't answered my initial question of how weight lifting can strengthen the heart the same as a 20 minute run.
Hint:
[Spoiler]it can't unless you're doing 20 minutes of nonstop weight lifting.[/spoiler]
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>>6556246
>>6556255
Can both of you shut the fuck up and/or go away?

Cheers.
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>>6555953
wait what? somebody's claiming increased estrogen and lower test results in lower bodyfat? wtf?
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>>6556181
absolutely

>>6556259
this
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>>6556255
because if you put your heart rate at what it was at the end of a set of hard deadlifts for twenty minutes straight you would collapse.

also your rests should be a minute, at most. mine are thirty seconds.
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>>6556181
Massively
Skype name?
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>>6556260
The image doesn't actually say that.
It talks about reducing test and increasing estrogen. It also talks about reducing body fat.
It does not say increasing estrogen and decreasing test will reduce bodyfat.
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>>6556263
Good job saying I'm right, genius.
Read your article again. Stop cherrypicking it.
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>>6556263
>>6556273
FUCK
OFF
YOU
OBNOXIOUS
SELF-OBSESSED
CUNTS


jesus fucking christ it's enough to put me off bara, PLEASE go back to /fit/ where you clearly belong.
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>>6556270
oh ok, I misunderstood the sarcasm in the post I quoted then
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>>6556276
Pretty sure he was serious, but just a moron.
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>>6556274
We're not all like this I promise. They're annoying us too.
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>>6556274
it's just one dude being a dipshit

>>6556273
i'm dumping the article because I realized it was trash and I didn't read it hard enough. like I said, do your own research. read the fit sticky, even.

I didn't say you were right, btw. You don't keep your heart rate at 130+ for the twenty minutes you spend at seven miles an hour.
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>>6556281
holy shit this is hot
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>>6556284
>I'm dumping the article because it came from someone that actually knew what they were talking about instead of the idiots on /fit/
Also, heart rate at 130+ for one minute intervalsdoes not strengthen the heart nearly as much as a 20 minute jog does.
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>>6556287
>the multiple national level bodybuilders and athletes on that board have no idea what they're talking about


lol i'm crying
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>>6556268
>>6556262
oh uh I have no idea about fashion. just seeing if anyone is interested in it. sorry to get your hopes up
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>>6556288
>he actually thinks there are good bodybuilders and athletes on /fit/
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>>6556284
No, there's two dudes being a dipshit, and you're one of them, fuck off.

>>6556281
I know man, I was exaggerating. Can we get some lifting-themed cuteposts in here to offset these two untermensch?
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>>6556289
This needs to happen though
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>>6556294
>Can we get some lifting-themed cuteposts in here to offset these two untermensch?
This one time I lifted the mood by posting shitty puns.
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>>6556300
Based.
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>>6556290
there are tho

supermang, jeff seid, zyzz, off the top of my head. but look at any CBT and you'll see that there are plenty of people who obviously know what they're talking about when it comes to fitness.
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>>6556303
>all bodybuilders who are exersizing for astetics instead of health, definitely don't know anything about heart exersizes
Lmao
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>>6556310
are you so fucking stupid that you think they didn't hire nutritionists and have personal trainers who have to know about biology
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>>6556300
Fucking spectacular.
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>>6556312
But they don't know anything about it.
You still haven't given any evidence as to how 3 sets of 8 reps works the heart the same as 20 minutes of jogging.
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Do you guys think that domination can destroy love?
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>>6556319
Yes. If you dominate past where your sub is willing to go you're betraying trust.>>6556319
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>>6556318
i wish there was a way to filter a typing style because yours reminds me of the snotty kid who gets in facebook arguments. not even going to address how stupid it is that you don't think they would have learned more about it than you have when it's literally their job to stay as healthy as possible for as long as possible while also maintaining their physique.
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pls post more gfd spanking pics though
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>>6556324
Lmao, you do realize I'm fucking with you, right? I really don't give a shit about what those guys know, because you know absolutely nothing.

>You still haven't given any evidence as to how 3 sets of 8 reps works the heart the same as 20 minutes of jogging.
Support your arguments faggot. Wait, you can't.
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>>6556327
okay, whatever. it doesn't, you win. that doesn't mean that it's the best for most people to just jog, because you won't build any aesthetics and weight lifting builds your heart in a pretty significant way to begin with. call it backtracking, but people should still weightlift.
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>>6556325
Don't know if I've really got any more of them. I just spied it in one of my folders.
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>>6556334
I never said they shouldn't. Low bf% "Astetics" are stupid, worthless and most people find them unattractive. But strength training is good.
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>>6556300
Lifting is the best way to get DOMS all over your arse.
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>>6556339
>low bf% aesthetics are...unattractive

go ask an actual woman if they think brad pitt has a nice body in fight club. you seem to be too uninformed to realize that you don't just become 4% bodyfat on accident, even if you lift for years.
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>>6556353
Oh I know low bf% takes a big diet change too. I've talked to plenty of women about it, at muches, college and work. Most of them that aren't really mainstream sheep don't like low bf% even with muscle.
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>>6556359
what is a low bf% to you.

because 9% is pretty much objectively a low bodyfat, and about what BP is in fight club. I know plenty of girls who prefer the middle two in this image, as well.

anyway, why are you even talking about the "low body fat aesthetics" if you know that you won't reach them by accident? we're talking about what's good for the average person, here.
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>>6554365
I met some girl over the internet in like 7th grade that I thought was the hottest shit until pretty recently. When I first met her she was smarter than anyone I knew and was sad all the time and I was a fucking mongoloid that was sad all the time, but she had reason's to be sad. I guess we "dated" for a bit but shit happened and I ended up not talking to her for a year or so and being the most depressed I had ever been, got seperated from my IRL friends at school and went to a different middle school than them and I knew no one there, so I wasted every hour I wasn't at school playing WoW and every hour I was at school trying to remember her or sleeping. I ended up searching her on Facebook and started talking to her again on and off for a few years but so little had happened in my life so I never was interesting enough to hold an actual conversation. Eventually we got into arguments and I figured that I didn't really like her and, much earlier, that she didn't like me so it was pointless to continue. Life is kinda mellow now and I'm too shy and socially inept to meet other people or even talk to irl people other than two guys I met in like 6th grade, but they'll be out of school soon and have their own lives and I don't know what I'm going to do after that
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>>6556371
I consider anything sub 10% low. Most people tend to find BP already attractive, though.
You mentioned astetics first. I just specified that low bf% are worthless and most people I know find then unattractive. Mind, I'm at about 10% bf right now just because I forget to eat most of the time.
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>>6555094
Katawa Shojou was a pretty good game, Lilly a best girl, though the fact that the only route where the MC got better was Emi's was pretty shitty.
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>>6556387
Lily a best girl indeed. Gfd in a nutshell desu.
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>>6556372
>webm
Good lord. That's the kind of thing that I make weird high-pitched noises watching.
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>>6556392
thats pretty gay fampai
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>>6556379
you're absolutely completely wrong about people finding most people below 10% bf unattractive.

Just in this thread, there's a bunch of drawn examples.

>>6554338
>>6554340
>>6554363
>>6554397
>>6554422
>>6554499


note the abdominal v lines, commonly called the adonis belt. these are best gained through enlarging your hip flexors and obliques through hypertrophy, and one of the best ways to cause hypertrophy is high weight and low volume weightlifting.
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>>6556289
>>6556297
it's really not hard I suppose. Tight-fitting clothes, maybe somewhat effeminate, collars....
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So question, how many people here find the line of hair going down a man's chest/stomach to his navel attractive?
Also what do you call it, I've heard it referred to as the Treasure Trail more often than not.
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>>6556402
You do realize those were drawn and posted by hetero guys, right? Aside from one. And she's specifically into baras.
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>>6556408
In addition, my claim comes from my own expirence of asking women about it. Most of them have said they don't.
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>>6556405

Well, I'm a bi guy and I can't stand them. I'm always trying to shave mine, but it just feels like putting off the inevitable, it just comes right back after 2 weeks. I don't really mind a little bit of hair in other places but not there. Ugh.
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Have a thing that I thought fit.
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>>6556408
>everyone in this thread is a man if i want them to be!!!!

a lot of these are a little too male focused to have really been drawn by a hetero guy, for one.

what did you ask them, specifically? it really sounds like you said something like "ugh, don't you think bodybuilders are GROSS" which is a pretty common sentiment, but most bodybuilders are fuckhuge and at 4-6%, if not lower, during a competition.
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>>6554563
does that mean he found you laying half conscious an imprint the shape of someone's shin in your skull
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>>6556411
Just trim. Use an electric shaver. much faster, pretty much the same result unless someone is so close they can taste you. I'm hairy as fuck and there's no way I'm going to razor shave my entire body - I'd need to do it twice a week. Using an electric shaver on the closest setting saves an insane amount of time.

>>6556405
I've always known it as a snail trail or is this something seperate?
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>>6556417
TAS is a dude, like that majority of people here, and I know three of those artists are hetero. But sure, let's say they aren't for sake of argument. Do any of them look like they lift? Aside from the bara?
I specifically asked them about low bodyfat lifters. Mind I live in northern MI, where 17% bf muscley woodsmen are the norm.
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>>6556424
I'd assume it's the same thing, different names in different regions.
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>>6556424

This is pretty much what I already do, I don't trust myself with a razor around my nether regions. I just trim it down as much as I possibly can, along with rest of my pubic area, but all just grows back so quickly. Annoying as shit.
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>>6556425
yes, actually. also, I'm pretty sure you probably said something like "I mean really big weightlifter guys idk" because you know so little about lifting, and also what the bodies of athletes really look like to begin with.

>>6554338

those shoulders and chests come from either hard bodyweight training (which is hard to do properly if you don't supplement it with weightlifting anyway, so moot point) or weightlifting. not to mention the thighs of the boy on the right.

>>6554499
again, hip flexors and thighs. looks pretty similar to my body.

>>6554558
shoulders and chest. artist has a really, really good knowledge of anatomy and knows what a stomach looks like in a person curled up, kudos.
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Here's some more reading material, /gfd/.
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>>6556443
Damn, I'm fucked.
http://evolutioncounseling.com/emotional-detachment-in-relationships/
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>>6556446
>Argument going on
>i can't get a word in
>it's just screaming insults and anger
>i cave and shut down remain silent till it's over or they give up and flip out and get pissed off and leave.

I don't argue with people anymore.
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>>6556442
No, I didn't say that. I specifically asked them about low bodyfat lifters. Not " LOL U know the really big ones" or any other bullshit you can come up with to try and justify your position.
>tfw I was an army brat and did PT with my dad until I was 14
>tfw I was running for my track team in highschool

You really need to stop assuming stuff.
>>6554338
Looks like a lean guy who does regular arm exercise, no heavy lifting required.

>>6554499
Those abs look special, but the thighs look like he does regular bodyweight squats, nothing more
>>6554558
Shoulders look about the same as the first image, but with hairer arms and a good amount of work on the pectorals.
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Can people fuck off back to /fit/ with their shitty arguing please?
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>>6556372
Well how was she /gfd/?
>>6556405
I've heard it called a happy trail
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>>6556467
Sure. At this point I don't really want to continue.
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>>6556446
Remember that appearances are deceptive, what’s going on under the surface for him is not the same as what you see, he is emotional just in a different way.
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>>6556081
Jesus Christ, look at all of those fluids on the floor. And how did so much end up on her outer thigh? Is she melting or something?
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>>6556473
I wish someone would understand this.
I sometimes want to get therapy to help me with this but I know exactly what the treatment already is and I really don't have anyone I want to connect with emotionally.
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>>6556470
Before things fell apart she liked for me to call her mommy and was into the whole thing. Probably should've mentioned that so it was relevant to the thread.
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>>6556459
you didn't talk about the thighs though, they're huge. not to mention that if you're that small to begin with you won't get noticeable shoulders at all with...pullups? I can't even think of any not-advanced bodyweight exercises that target shoulders that well.

what army was your father in?
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>>6556510
jesus, are you me? My relationship is falling apart with my mommy.
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>disappear for a few days
>come back and see this
>fucking 347 / 97
i'm absent for just a few days and you go full retard and make this shithole even more miserable
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>>6556663
>can't stop laughing
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>>6556663
even worse. some of you already invaded a few of my favourite threads. cancer never sleeps
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L O V E B U T T O N
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>>6556825
Now i need to fap...
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>>6556842
Go for it.
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>>6556825

>tfw no domme to play with your prostate

It's so exhausting when I have to do it to myself.
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>>6554580
>dates girls
>claims not to be a lesbian
Excuse me what?
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>>6556910
Maybe she's bisexual?
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>>6556855
Exploring my prostate by myself feels a bit filthy, but I'd be willing to compromise if a qt domme proposed it.
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>>6556405
Yessss, it's very hot.

>>6556408
And I like baras with a higher bf% too, bears are nice. No bara left behind!
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>>6556927
I feel like the earlier stuff in this thread was heavily shaming big, athletic guys, and that's just not cool. I know guys in these threads tend to be quite insecure but gentlemen, don't let some faggot on 4chan make you feel bad about lifting. Anyone who finds it unattractive has pleb taste anyway. Go forth! Squat! Row! Press! Get fucking huuuuuuuuuge!
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>>6554875
I support this idea

If there exists a dating app for everything else, there can be one fror GFD.

ASSEMBLE THE DEV TEAM
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>>6556932

Almost everyone's insecure about everything though, be it fat, skinny, short, tall, or whatever. People feel like whatever they have just isn't good enough. That's just society for you, I guess.

>>6556921

That's why you gotta enema, get yourself nice and clean.
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Anyone able to recommend a nice strap-on and harness?
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>>6554365
He was a skinny frail looking white boy with brown hair and giant blue eyes. He had this look to him that seemed like he was always scared, but just in the eyes (think michael mcdonald from madtv).He seemed to be legitimately intelligent which was something rare in the people I knew. His grades were good as hell and everything went for him. He got appointed as the head of our EC program after a few months of being there and got a paid work abroad assignment handed to him by our program leader. Another guy who was there for 2+ years was hoping for the job and then left after he got snubbed for the position. He was close with both program leaders and was mentored by both of them. He did not like me but I still wanted him to be my friend and talk to me about interesting things. I also had fantasies of domming him which didnt happen before. He seemed very pure and innocent, unlike a lot of angry nerds I come across. He was trying to go after a girl who lived with her chad boyfriend, lol fuck.
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>>6554580
thats qt as fuck, contact him now!
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>>6556092
>thinking a beginner knows what part of the chain is the weaker muscle
I agree with the rest, though. But that part is gonna end up with someone doing a bunch of other shit because he thinks stuff that isn't ttrue
Hell, Dan Green (IIRC) thought his squat was weak because of a weeak posterior chain - turns out it was weak quads. And he's a fucking professional.
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>>6556263
>resting a fucking half a fucking minute between deadlifts
Stop. Please stop.
>>6556303
>Supermang being in charge of anything positive
>Jeff posting on /fit/
I don't know who's trolling who anymore.
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>>6557033
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>>6556927
>tfw bearmode
>tfw hearing that there is someone out there who likes that
>tfw will probably never meet them

just fuck me up
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>>6554365
Older women that coached and helped me out of an abusive relationship. Too bad I was only a fetus toy for her Dom side and nothing else.
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>>6557067
I know that feel.
>Muscular with some belly
>full beard
>long bushy hair
>constant male bitch face
>just want to be held and have my butt played with.
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>>6556408
I'm the one who drew that comic. I must say that I don't think bodybuilders are appealing to me, especially when they have those Johnny Bravo/inverted triangle proportional where their legs look short in comparison.
I do prefer bara with a bit of muscle when it's drawn, but in real life I prefer men with a bit more body fat, because I like being able to grab some skin and if I rest on top of them, I want to rest onto something soft.

When I was younger I used to be into cuteboys, and I thought traps were "so kawaii uwu", until I dated one.
My ex was an underweight closeted-crossdresser (who recently ended up realising she was a lesbian transwoman) and really, it hurt cuddling up, all I could feel were her bones. During that time, having a boyfriend cuter than me made me feel pretty insecure too, haha. I realized I was just fulfilling my teenager fantasy, but there was nothing more after that. This was 6 years ago, so I knew next to nothing about trans people. Prior to that, I also dated a woman once, but we both realized we couldn't be sexually attracted to women, so we stopped right when we were about to try sex, haha.

But yeah, all those experiences helped me realize I prefer bigger guys, with some body hair.
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>>6554499
Why do I want to be this catboy so badly??!
>>
>>6557108
Because you want to nyaa and be petted.
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>>6557082
>her
*his
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>>6557061
between sets you dipshit
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>>6557136
It confuses me too, but even if this was before hormone treatment, a MtF is still a she. But no matter how hard I try, I still can't see her as a woman, even if she's all bimbofied now.

Anyway, we should start a new thread soon, we are on page 10 now.
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>>6557255
You were seriously fucking with me when you mentioned you dated a cuteboy and then called her a she.
Shit like that is what always fucks with Me.
>>
Where are my cooking buddies at?
I'm looking forward to Thanksgiving this year. It's going to be a little complicated because I'm working third shift this year but I got plans to make stuffed turkey, both greenbean and yam casserole, my garlic mashed potatoes and brusslesprouts and cauliflower for side veggies.
I have some premade pies coming in because I don't have time to make them myself but I am making my own whipped cream for the pumpkin pies.
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>>6557082
>had my fill of cute boytoys
>i'd like a muscle guy now!

:o
>>
Lol where tf can a real nigga buy a slave collar?
>>
>>6557343
I am going back to my parents house for thanksgiving. Me and my mom will probably make thanksgiving dinner.

Are you gonna eat with someone?
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>>6557364
What kind of collar you looking for my man
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>>6557379
I live with my parents and my sister is going to be with us for thanksgiving.
I'm also eating at my grandma's with my uncle's family the Sunday after. I'll be making my Oreo cake for that.
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>>6557273
Oh, you are right, I messed up, haha. It really is confusing.

>>6557350
I have been with one for the last 4 years and really, no matter if you are skinny, chubby, hairy, apathetic, sarcastic, old, young, etc, everyone can be as cute as a "cuteboy". There's no need to look androgynous. It's all in the attitude and feeling comfortable about it, I believe.

Honestly, dominant women interested in sub baras isn't a rare thing, but nobody's going to be out there with a sign. Just look at all those straight/bi girls interested in Gamagori/Tsumugu from KLK, Metal Gear/TF2 characters, some Shingeki no Kyojin characters, Detective Gumshoe, etc.
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>>6557437
What if I'm emotionally detached
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>>6557438
What's the fucking point in being a sub if you're emotionally detached


(not that poster)
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>>6557343
I'm making vegan borscht and brewing beet kvass for Thanksgiving this year. My folks are hosting for the extended family so I plan on helping with the turkey and maybe making cornbread and some cookies as well. It's the first time I'm back with the family in half a year so I'm pretty sentimental.
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>>6557445
>sentimental
>cooks
>loves family
you are an absolute treasure anon, that's so cute
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>>6557441
Wanting someone to be emotionally attached to.
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>>6557082
>But yeah, all those experiences helped me realize I prefer bigger guys, with some body hair.
<3
Someone who can snap any chain you put on them, but lets themselves be bound.
Someone who can tower above you, but still make you feel in charge.
Someone who crashes your plane with no survivors.
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>>6557343
I'm making all of thanksgiving for my family. I've got all your southern traditions. Smoked turkey, green bean casserole, sweet potato casserole, squash casserole, home made cranberry sauce, mash potatoes, an apple pie, a pumpkin pie, and a gingerbread pumpkin parfait.
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>>6557455
What, that thing you can't do if you're emotionally detached? That's just a waste of effort for a domme who wants her love and affection to be returned.
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>>6557108
Because you hate clothes and enjoy it when people pet you? He looks utterly happy, and it's hard not to envy someone whose existence revolves around roaming the neighborhood and receiving random affection.
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>>6557457
T H I S
H
I
S
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>>6557457
>tfw you're a big guy

>>6557437
This is pretty cool to hear. I'm improving myself for myself, not for other people, but it's still redeeming to know that I can still be wanted even if I'm not a skinny cuteboi anymore.
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>>6557470
I don't think you understand emotional detachment.
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>>6557401
Black leather, preferably one that doesn't say princess or sub bitch on it.
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>>6557504
I think I do m8, given that I was very recently on the shitty end of it and he broke my fucking heart. Do us a favour, don't try to find a dom if you're that flavour of fucked up. We need our affection reciprocated.
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>>6557512
Subspace Leathers do some nice simple ones, or Top to Bottom- both of those are UK based and have online shops. However, those are aimed at BDSM practitioners and so can be pricey- you might be able to get a good quality leather dog collar for a lot cheaper.
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>>6557518
You really don't, then. Emotional detachment isn't a lack of emotion. It's the shutdown of emotions in stressful situations.
What you're thinking of is codependance.
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>>6557520
I'd feel a little uncomfortable in a dog collar. Not kinky uncomfortable, just like "wtf I'm not a dog or think I'm otherkin".
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>>6557527
I'm feeling this too man.

I just want to wear a collar so I feel cute. Wearing something for a dog isn't going to make me feel cute or horny but whenever I see nice collars they're way too expensive for something that I'm not even going to be wearing for someone else at the moment.
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>>6557543
Yeah, I just looked on subspace leathers and fucking hell. £40 for a collar is fairly out of my range.
>>
We've been at page ten for a while - who is going to make the new thread?
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>>6557587
Not it!
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>>6556408
>>6556371

If you think women don't like low body-fat I'm afraid you're an idiot. There are girls who like chub and bearmode as well as everything under the sun, but there's a reason handsome young male actors and heartthrobs all have low bodyfat. It shows the definition of the male form beautifully. I wouldn't date a guy with bodyfat higher than 10% personally, but I'm an athlete myself so I don't have much tolerance for chub.

Most girls who are interested in heavier guys are heavier themselves in my experience. Fit people usually hook up with other fit people.
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New bread

>>6557592
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>>6557593
i give up then suicide time
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