/GFD/ & Role Reversal

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How are you doing today, /gfd/?

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>>6525810
List time!

Animated films:
>Garden of Words
>Kiki's delivery service

Anime/Manga:
>Witch Craft Works
>Freezing
>Madan no Ou to Vanadis
>Morobito: Guardian of the Spirit
>Monster Musume no Iru Ichijou
>Soredemo Sekai wa Utsukushii (The world is still beautiful)
>Akame ga Kill*
>Infinite Stratos
>Accel World*
>The Pet Girl of Sakurasou*
>Danna ga Nani o Itteiru ka Wakaranai Ken
>Tasogare otome x Amnesia
>Tonari no Kaibutsu-kun
>Gekkan Shoujo Nozaki-kun
>Mysterious Girlfriend X
>Magic Saliva


Manga/Light Novel:
>Kono Onee-san wa fiction desu
>Unbalance x Unbalance
>Oyomegatari
>Sensei Lock-on
>Arakawa under the bridge
>Natsuyuki Rendezvous
>Otomen
>Tramps like us
>Hokago play
>Game Over

*/gfd/ is not the main focus of the story. Don't read/watch it purely for the /gfd/, make sure you enjoy it first and consider the /gfd/ a bonus.

Doujins: http://pastebin.com/5w7qgrM6

As usual, recommendations are welcome.

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>>6525816
Good, I'm just doing my usual. Yourself?

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>>6525820
>The witch, the succubus and the cute apprentice
http://pururin.com/gallery/12889/the-witch-the-succubus-and-the-cute-apprentice.html

>Leave it to Kagari-san
http://pururin.com/gallery/4953/kagari-san-ni-omakase.html

>What did I do Kagari-san?
http://pururin.com/gallery/10842/what-did-i-do-kagari-san.html

>Sakaki Rapes Yoshida
http://g.e-hentai.org/s/766053f93d/26326-1

>Tentacle training
http://g.e-hentai.org/g/720177/0396bbc85a/

>Amahara's World of Reversed Gender Roles
http://pururin.com/gallery/18594/world-of-reversed-gender-roles.html

>The serpentess never lets go (and other works by Hroz)
http://pururin.com/gallery/4782/the-serpentess-never-lets-go.html

>Layers of White 1 & 2
http://pururin.com/gallery/16898/layers-of-white.html
http://pururin.com/gallery/18461/layers-of-white-2.html

>Pool De Deatta Oneesan To Ecchi Na Kankei Ni Nacchau Ohanashi
http://pururin.com/gallery/16618/pool-de-deatta-oneesan-to-ecchi-na-kankei-ni-nacchau-ohanashi.html

>With love, the monster café
http://g.e-hentai.org/g/657979/0a08f806b9/

>Superior cake
http://pururin.com/gallery/8375/superior-cake.html

>[po-ju] Secret Journey
http://pururin.com/gallery/6965/secret-journey.html

>[sena youtaro] Kannou no Christmas Eve & Kannou no Christmas Eve 1st Anniversary
http://g.e-hentai.org/g/818436/0cc89b1d8f/

>[Ishigaki Takashi] Let Me Bark for You
http://g.e-hentai.org/g/750467/ffeb85a8d6/

>[Yuuki Homura] Onee-chan! Tengoku
http://hentai2read.com/sister_paradise_yuuki_homura/

>[Oda Non] Yuuwaku X Rouge
http://g.e-hentai.org/g/721484/a1308b8ed9/

>Yuri Suki Kanojo wa Yuri Kanojo ga Dekinai
http://hentai2read.com/yuri_suki_kanojo_wa_yuri/

Yes brother, list time

>>6525816
feeling like crap because i'm pretty sure i'm never going to hear about her again

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>>6525816
Pretty good. Nanowrimo started today, so I've been working on that a bit. I'm hoping that it'll be the motivation I need to actually see a story through to completion.

>>6525816

>Sent a qt a text on Friday asking if she was busy on Halloween
>She hasn't even read the message (both have iPhones)
>Don't want to send her another one before talking to her in person at work and come off as obnoxious/desperate

Just fornicate thine fecal matter towards the heavens, blood-relative.

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>>6525816
haven't wanted to kill myself yet today so I think it's been a good day.

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When I'n doubt eat her out

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>>6525847

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>>6525850

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>>6525847
>When I'n doubt eat her out
I remember when that was the edition for one of these threads. That was a good thread. Who else just enjoys eating a girl out? I know I'm not alone.

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>>6525851
Wow I have a lot more of these then I thought

>>6525852
Yeah I remember that, it was my thread. And yes eating a girl out is the best

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>>6525856
We are kindred spirits, friend

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>>6525856
And I think I am out

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>>6525810

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>>6525860
Haha nope still go some

>>6525861
>>6525855
>>6525853
<3

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>>6525855
I fucking love office ladies, but it's said that women in positions of power are paradoxically very likely to be submissive in the bedroom.

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>>6525864
Alas, now I'm out

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>>6525869

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>>6525862
I thought the one with the collar was another boy.

That would've been so much hotter.

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captcha was pumpkins and one of them had my name carved in it. skynet pls no

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k that's all from me for now

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>>6525882
<3

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>>6525826
Feeling kind of crap because my halloween was a disappointment. Keeping my chin up though!

>>6525836
Are you in contact with her?

>>6525844
Very nice! What are you writing about?

>>6525845
Have patience, anon. good things come in time.

>>6525846
Do you have any hobbies? I hear that painting helps with depression, and I know that Bob Ross is being streamed on twitch

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>>6525828
Pururin is back up?

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>>6525889
Nope...welp

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>>6525887
I've had Bob Ross on in the background since it started.

I keep zoning out and listening to it, it's really relaxing.

>>6525889
Doesn't seem so. As mentioned in last thread, try Hitomi or NHentai.

>>6525887
>Are you in contact with her?
more or less, as her (junk?) mail is now down i just have her skype but she's been offline for three weeks

>get talking to a girl from the map
>really, really hit it off
>send nudes and stuff but actually spend most of our time talking with eachother about whatever
>stops talking to me super suddenly
>doesn't block me on anything though
>four months later i beg her to talk to me...and she does
>says she's been through some shit over the summer. been hospitalized, lost a close family member, etc etc. also had some weird religious pressure that she's over now.
>but she still barely responds to me when i try to talk to her

why doesn't anything ever work

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>>6525887
>Very nice! What are you writing about?
It's a fantasy story heavily involving magic. The setting is basically that the gods have made a brand new world, and put some magic users on it who can then populate the world how they see fit. The story will take place with the second generation of magic peeps (who are individually less powerful than the first generation, but come in pairs). From there, I'm still trying to figure out how to give my little band of main characters an adventure.

>>6525865
It's very common to find the opposite in a woman's sex life versus work life personalities. I dated a girl that worked at the same office as me and she loved to be a cum dump who would do anything you want. Fucked with another person who worked in retail and she wanted to put me in a choker on a leash and have me eat her out while she played league.

It could be just random chance, but when you think about it makes sense. Woman A is in a position of power/decision making and just wants to be a mindless cum drunk slut with nothing to think about but cleaning my sweaty cock that's been suffocating in my pants all day, and woman B is in a position of no power and wants to feel the thrill of commanding someone to do every thing she wants; wherever and whenever she wants. Or woman C: Just likes whatever she likes.

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>>6525938
>she wanted to put me in a choker on a leash and have me eat her out while she played league.
I am so jelly right now

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>>6525852
I've never done it, so...

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>>6525852
l-lewd

>>6525907

Why don't you go do a social activity where at least half the people involved are women? You know, out there, in real life, where most women do their socializing/dating?

Sign up for a dance class. They'll be all over you since male partners are in high demand, and you'll get plenty of practice talking with girls in an environment where body-contact is appropriate. Since you're into take-charge women focus on the ones who don't mind showing you how to do stuff, lead or who have an interest in reversing the dance pair roles (a common for-fun variation).

>>6526036
i don't even want to think about dating right now

she is 30 minutes away but it feels like she is on another planet

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Are there any actual porn videos out there that follow the /gfd/ or/and /rr/ theme?

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>>6526058
Damn I haven't seen that one before, hot af

>>6526036
>tfw joined a yoga class for my scoliosis
>only male in the room, everyone turns their heads and stares at me when I walk in on the first day

I quit because it was terrifying

>>6525852
>You will never be her good little mouth slut

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>>6525852
me, I do

>>6525820
How is Tonari no Kaibutsu kun?

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>>6525816
I'm clean shaven for the first time in a while. I wanted to start No-Shave November off fresh.

>>6526126
>That pic

Wonderful

>>6525852
My fav was being colored, cuffed, hog tied with the only thing I could move was my tongue buried in my dommes sweet pussy. I could hours just giving oral.

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>>6526157
That sounds delightful.

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>>6526135
One of my faves.

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>>6526036
I'm waiting for finances to balance out.
>tfw working 70 to 90 hours a week to get out of debt

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>>6526095
>red riding hood Domme with a wolf pet
JESUSFUCKINGFUCKCHRISTOS
All of my want.

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>>6525852

My poor, poor virgin ass never has, but it's like my favorite fucking thing.

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>She will never ogle you
>She will never pick out skimpy costumes for you to strut around in
>She will never drool over your ass in tight jeans
>She will never tell you what she wants you to wear, what she thinks you look qt in
>She will never mold you to be her dream bf

I just want to be pretty for my gf

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>>6526167
Oh goodness, I remember going through the same thing not too long ago. You'll get out of it soon, I'm sure. As long as you have a bed to sleep in everything should be okay! And maybe you'll meet a qt gf when you finally get yourself out there, who knows?

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>>6526003
>posting worst girl
FUCKING
EW

>>6526071
There's that POV Faye Reagan on Phub
It's not really gfd but it's the closest I've seen in my 10 years of porn experience

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Tfw still no gf to bake cookies for and give a massage after she comes home from work.

>>6526200
I really wanted to like her. She looks like a tough and awesome onee-san type but goes full sub when she recognizes you as a "real man"

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>>6526186
Man that would be nice.

So, ehhh, how much luck have people had with the zeemap? I just put myself up on there and yet it feels like a fruitless effort.

>tfw don't know where else to go to find assertive or dominant partners

>>6525907
>says she's been through some shit over the summer. been hospitalized, lost a close family member, etc etc. also had some weird religious pressure that she's over now.
>but she still barely responds to me when i try to talk to her

>why doesn't anything ever work

Gee, that must be so hard for you.

She's stressed as hell, fucker. Her mind is probably preoccupied with a ton of things more important than you right now.

>>6526240
I tried to be proactive about making penpals with people but I got really scared and just stopped responding. I feel guilty about it.

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>>6526231
The coveted gfd relationship is hard, but you could always just get with a generally assertive girl if you try hard enough (they are more plentiful than gfd gals.) Just keep your chin up and think about the future. I mean I was trapped in a very shitty apartment for three years with a very abusive landlord, I had to work those hours every week to kind of feed myself just enough to stay alive? It's a bad time but there's bound to be someone out there for you (especially if you're young.)

>>6526242
Yeah I read that and kinda cringed...

>>6526242
>>6526249
so am I not allowed to be upset that she's getting further from me every day because her situation is harder than mine

if anything that makes it even worse, that it's due to something I have literally no control over

>>6526279
Do you think she has control over it happening, then?

I mean sure, it's upsetting, but you should understand that it's not really her fault, either. Have some empathy.

>>6526249
Very true.

>>6526291
He never said it was her fault?

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>>6526036
>Why don't you go do a social activity where at least half the people involved are women?
Not him, but to be fair if you are not social these things are a complete wash (and not to mention expensive to the point where it becomes not tenable to continue trying them all the time).
I went to a Halloween party in NY last night and talked to no one but the bartender because I don't know how to speak to people that I don't already know.

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>>6526294
Fair point, I was too harsh and should apply what I said to myself. And think before posting, too.

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>>6526307

>I don't know how to speak to people that I don't already know.

This is precisely why I don't go out. And college is pretty much the same thing, I barely know anybody at all.

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>>6526307
>don't know how to talk to people I don't already know
Isn't that a vicious cycle/fail logic? If you don't talk to people you don't know how do you meet new people?

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>>6526313
I still go out because I really like live music, but the false hope of meeting someone when I go out is starting to become too depressing.
College was a total nothing for me. I made a small group of male friends by circumstance and that was it.

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At what point in your life should you start a relationship such as this? I feel that that burden of getting an education and/or work may make it nearly impossible to meet up on a weekly basis . This is a relationship of commitment and the more time you spend apart the more likely it is to fail.

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>>6526317
I meet very few new people.
I spent probably five minutes thinking about how I should complement this guy on his Hotline Miami costume last night, and then I didn't. I'm kind of at a point where it feels like there is a wall between me and talking to anyone that I don't know in person.

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>>6526328
compliment*

>>6526243
> I feel guilty about it.
rightfully so.
goodbyes, as rushed as they sometimes are, are something you're really supposed to do
else your partner/friend/paypal will feel like shit and possibly go crazy for being left alone in the dark

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>>6526363
Yuuka is the embodiment of a perfect dom. You must be too shy to meet her

>>6526363
But Yuuka is nice as long as you don't fuck with her. Or her garden.

Would be nice to find a girl to talk and relate to.

Craigslist isn't yielding any results. With no car or really any money, I tend to get few bites these days.

>>6526249

Based solely on my city's kink scene, you have a better change at getting a dominant woman if you'll budge on the "gentle" bit. I know quite a few dommes, who make up more on the munches than you guys seem to imply, but most have some interest in rougher stuff too. Finding someone who is totally dominant with no sadistic qualities is harder. Even the male doms want to spank their subs and whatnot occasionally.

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>>6526206
>She looks like a tough and awesome onee-san type but goes full sub when she recognizes you as a "real man"
Sadly this appears to be a recurring theme in hentai. The woman at first glance appears to be a dominant tease, but the moment the girly-man's penis enters her vagina she becomes a submissive cock slave.

>>6526181
Work on your looks, style and body and you'll attract one, anon. Get on them squats and oats for dat ass.

>>6526307
>I don't know how to speak to people that I don't already know

Real talk? Try drinking or getting high. Depending on how you react it will either loosen you up.. or make you worse. Not an ideal solution, but this is what most people do.

I'm very shy too, but I break the ice by finding people who I can sincerely compliment, or by asking a question. Like, if someone has a band tee I like, I talk about the band with them. I keep it casual. Don't get too up into a girl's personal space when she's speaking.

>>6526407

Unless you're living in a major city, having no car is bad. Get that sorted before you get serious about finding a girl. Most people don't want to be your chauffeur.

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>>6526389
>>6526404
Even ZUN says she's flat out sadistic. I'll admit there's a bit of temptation with Yuuka, but my knee jerk reaction to her is still NOPE-the-fuck-out-of-there.

>>6526422
I don't expect her to drive me around. Just come over, talk, cuddle, hang out, that kind of deal.

>>6526425

So you'll never go out together?

Unless you're living in a place like NYC where it can be impractical to have a car, not having one is a red flag. If an adult in the suburbs has no car, I assume they've had a DUI or have some other issues. It's just not practical to not have a vehicle in most places, it limits you so much.

>>6526431
I live in the middle of nowhere, GA. Well, it's a very rural area. Never had a DUI since I don't drink.

I collect SSI for social/mental issues. Not crazy or anything. It would be very difficult for me to afford and maintain a car on $651 a month, even a cheap clunker.

>>6526431
America is weird. I remember when I went there. Everything is so far apart holy shit.

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>MFW Ill and cant go to school
>MFW noone to pat my head
I still have my hug pillow, going to have a nap.

>>6526489

Yeah.

Also, our roads are packed with huge SUVs that can seat eight people, and in almost all of those SUVs is just one person.

>>6526504
Efficiency

besides rolling the dice and getting her drunk how does a guy get out of the friend zone? im starting to go crazy as we are closer than many married couples i know and all our friends and relatives think of us a couple, we travel the world together, we work together. we live together. i just don't know what to do so i will ask total strangers.

>>6526521

If you're that close and she doesn't want you, she never will. She's not attracted to you, or doesn't feel any romantic/sexual chemistry with you, or you don't have the attributes she wants in a mate.

Also, >using "friend zone" unironically
kek

>>6526521
By friend zone do you mean "I just haven't asked her out yet because I'm scared," or do you mean you've asked her out/she's specifically said she thinks of you as a friend or pulled the old "you're like a brother to me" line?

If the former, just fucking bite the bullet and approach her about it. Whatever happens will be better than sitting on doing nothing forever.

If the latter, she isn't interested in you. Let it go. I know it sucks, bro. I've been there too. But the friend zone isn't something you break out of. If you got put there in the first place, it wasn't meant to be.

>>6526521
Just ask her "can we be more than friends"

>>6526528
>>6526531
i have asked., i got a no then a yes [but i said no because i felt she needed to restructure her life] then a no again [only reason she gave is she doesn't want to have kids but i do], she is really pessimistic and can't make a decision about anything big or life altering and if she does it can be changed with peer pressure so she ends up doing things she doesn't, and doesn't want to meet new people.
if she's just afraid it wont work out what can i do to get her take a chance?

>>6526201
>Faye

Can you post a link?

>>6526543
She obviously trusts you a lot. Tell her what you told us, that you two are already closer than many married couples.

Tell her she means a lot to you, that she is very special and that you enjoy every second you are with her.

Maybe tell her that her not giving you a yes or no is really eating away at you and that you just want to know how things are.

>>6526543

Nothing. It's up to her and you have to deal with that like a man. You've made it clear you want more, now the ball is in her court. In the meantime you should be looking elsewhere because whether or not she might give you a chance someday, she obviously doesn't have the intensity of feeling towards you that you seem to have for her. It also sounds like you want different lifestyles. If you really want kids then getting with someone who doesn't is probably a mistake.

Stupid question: looks vs personality? Moderately qt is enough or do you always seek the full qt bois?

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>>6526572
When looking for girls

There is a certain threshold for looks, once you are over that threshold, your personality can make you range from 10/10 to 0/10

An avarage looking girl with a great personality is easily a 9 or 10, while a good looking girl who does not fit well with me is a flat out 0. I have a very low tolerance of people who don't click with me and looks cant be a redeeming value. Nice, ugly stupid people are better than mean, smart, pretty people.

/gfd/ group.
Join if you're in the mood for chatting.

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>>6526584
After years on the web im still hesitant to do stuff like this.

Well, maybe it is because i have been years on here.

>>6526586
Perhaps. To me, it might be easier to find someone to relate to and maintain contact in the group.

>>6526425
idk, its kind of girl safety 101 to not go to a strangers house when meeting the first time. A busy public place is standard for the first date.

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>>6526421
Oh, drinking is a necessity, but even that seems to be not working.
Getting high doesn't work, because that just makes me incredibly anxious and confused.
The compliment method is good; that is the closest I can get to talking to someone.

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>>6526169

1/3

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>>6526595

2/3

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>>6526597

3/3

As long as I have a second, these threads and the small group are both just great.

>Talk with girls
>Gets on well, everything's nice. Conversation steers to lewd things
>Casually bring up kinks/preferences to see if they like this because I'm a massive sub
>"Oh, I'm sort of submissive"
>o-oh
>End up domming them so they'll have fun and be happy even though 90% of it is kind of meh
>"you're so good at being a dom, anon!"

This has happened multiple times.

I just wanna be held and bossed around....

>>6526617
Honest question, maybe im just a bit emotionally distant, but why would you pursue girls who you know that are not compatible with you? If you skip them, your total met girls per time unit increases and thus also your chances of meeting someone good.

>>6526622
They're still people, I guess, and I'm bad at cutting off connections or calling things off. I've always got this sense that I'll be missing something if I don't see it through; it's probably one of my worst habits.

I don't really put a lot of worth in myself either. sometimes I don't feel like I deserve to

>>6526625
>I don't really put a lot of worth in myself either. sometimes I don't feel like I deserve to

Me neither but i have the habit of easily abandoning things pretty easily. True friendships take a long time to build up but the more superficial friendships/acquaintances are easily left behind for me.

>>6526631
I'm the opposite. If I find someone I like I'll stick to them and try to make them happy. it's not fun most of the time.

>>6526632
But finding people you like to be around is really not hard, and this is coming from a pretty socially awkward introvert. Just look for other nerds, social outcasts and weebs.

Given, this tactic has not worked for me to find girls to far, but in my defence i do choose all the kind of activities that are sausagefests, so i meet very few girls.

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>>6526634
Dunno. I feel like most of the doms on here fall into one of those categories though. Could just be because this thread is on 4chan to begin with. Thoughts doms?

>>6526586
Joining the group doesn't mean you have to talk about /gfd/ or /rr/. It can be anything you like. Tell us about your day, talk about your favorite hobby, discuss what you're doing right now, etc. Of course we'll talk about /gfd/ or /rr/ if you bring it up, but that doesn't have to be the main topic of conversation all the time.

>>6526659
just like this thread, really...

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>>6526599
>>6526597
>>6526595
THANK YOU!

>>6526617
I know that feel.

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Joined Skype group. Let's see how miserable I'll end up.

>>6525816
Good news: Acquired a cute barasub
Bad: Trapped under a sleeping barasub. Breathing starting to become hard. Please feed my cat and tell my parents I lo

>>6526730
Question. How many doms want just the extremes IE only extremely muscular or extremely feminine.

Or do most just prefer somewhat masculine/somewhat feminine or just avarage?

We talked briefly about /gfd/ in animals in last thread, but it was not mentioned that female dogs hump male dogs for their entertainment.

One guy once told me his gf likes to randomly bend him over and do that. Would you like if your gf dry humped you?

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>>6526730
This is why you should always be on top of a barasub

>>6526738
Sure

>>6526738
I doubt that'd be a problem.

>>6526733
>tfw girly body but sort of masculine face

>>6526745
Im just sliiightly more feminine than avarage. My friends call em babyface and if i put a little effort in i could probably slide a long way further on the scale

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Does anyone have the rest of these?

>>6526647

I hide my power level, for the record.

>>6526733

Somewhat feminine with nice longish/shaggy hair is fine. Styling and personality does a lot to make a guy seem feminine.

>>6526832
What exactly do you mean with styling?

And personality in what way?

>>6526733
>tfw I go to restraunts always called ma'am
>Get hit on by guys at clubs/bars
Thankfully the guys will stop if they see I am a man, but the gay guys go crazy always hitting on me.I'm not even gay just have a feminine body and face i guess.

>>6526837

It's funny - when dealing with most of the population your looks are probably an annoyance to you, but to straight girls that like femme guys you're the holy grail. It's so hard to find feminine looking men who are hetero.

Someday you'll find a girl who absolutely adores you.

>>6526738
Damn, I'd love that.

>>6526837
I've found more straight guys that are insanely pretty and feminine looking than I have gay guys.

I guess women find feminine traits attractive?

>>6526835

Clean shaven, nice hair, dresses well (as in, not in baggy bland clothing like most American men).

Some guys have subtly more feminine or androgynous mannerisms. It's just how they are. They have a feline way of moving. They may also be more sensitive and vulnerable than the average guy. Generally, guys like this get pegged as gay whether or not they are, unfortunately.

>>6526844
there's a bit of (pseudo)science that says we're headed in that direction because birth control makes women attracted to the sweet-looking type rather than the manly types. idk how true this is

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>>6526837
Fuck, i have this very very rarely, but not most of the time.

I am really torn here. At one hand i don't want to look girly but on the other hand i kind of do.

Why is this shit so confusing. I guess i will start by losing my tiny amount of excess weight. Anyone know a good way to change your food pattern, I have no experience with this kind of stuff.

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>>6526842
I'm personally not a big fan of my looks. They have caused me so much trouble in my life.

>>6526844
I think feminine traits are naturally attractive. Some of the gay guys i've talked to said boobs were incredibly hot. They may have been wierdos though.

>>6526849
I have the same problem. I want it, but I also don't.

>>6526848

That's somewhat true. It's because the birth control blocks ovulation, which is when the most test is produced in females. Studies say high-test females generally want high-test males.

Problem is, when women get married and go off birth control, they sometimes lose interest in their lost-test husband, some studies suggest.

That said, it's not a hard rule whatsoever. I don't use birth control because I'm an athlete and I don't want my hormones, especially my test, fucked with. Even though I have higher t-levels than the average female, I love low-test males and always have. Go figure.

>>6526850
>I think feminine traits are naturally attractive. Some of the gay guys i've talked to said boobs were incredibly hot. They may have been wierdos though.

Some things are just attractive. I am a straight guy but stil go dayum when looking at a hunk, i just dont like dick. Some stuff is just objectively attractive.

But yes, the female form is just naturally more attractive, hence why art is so focussed on it. The only places you find the masculine form is in areas about power and speed, such as arts about knights, dragons, in sports car designs and guns.

>>6526852

Tell that to the Greeks.

>>6526852
>hence why art is so focussed on it

Or it could be because most of the influential people in history, including those funding and guiding the artistic movements, where men, most of whom were straight. derp.

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>>6526850
>I'm personally not a big fan of my looks. They have caused me so much trouble in my life.

Maybe this is why I am hesitant about it too.

>>6526851
I am always carefull with "some studies suggest" because they are often cherry picked or not yet solidified in the scientific community.

>>6526853
The greeks made statues of both sexes. Maybe i was too hasty, it is cultural as well. For example, fascism and art-Deco used the male form a lot.

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>>6526847
One of my best friends is exactly like this. Credit to him, the guy's really, really hot but at first glance pretty much anybody would assume he was gay. He's the token pretty boy in the group.

>>6526850
I've met gay guys that have said they like boobs. They're like asses, everyone likes them.

>>6526849
What do you mean changing your food pattern? If you need recipes or food advice I'd genuinely advise to just lurk /ck/, hell, even /fit/ has some decent recipes.

>>6526848
Well, as long as it remains pseudo science I'm fine. If it quickly turns in to some cultural bandwagon I'm screwed.

>>6526851
riskysex.jpg

>>6526857
I think (culturally) it's more that lean/wiry guys aren't called scrawny anymore, not that we're down on muscle

>>6526856
>maybe this is why I am hesitant
Yeah. Looking feminine is hard, but when I started dyeing my hair and painting my nails I stopped being hit on by guys as much. So if you really want to avoid it that what you can do.

>>6526857
>>6526852
I guess everybody just likes boobs.

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>>6526857
>What do you mean changing your food pattern? If you need recipes or food advice I'd genuinely advise to just lurk /ck/, hell, even /fit/ has some decent recipes.
I was naive hoping for something like "Avoid stuff like this, instead eat some more of this". I have started following pic here >>6526828 to some extend, but i thought anything might help.

>when I started dyeing my hair and painting my nails I stopped being hit on by guys as much.

Easy there tiger, one step at the time.

Being hit on is not really part of my problems list, its more of several years of bullying and low self worth due to being told im not a real man. But on the upside, my somewhat feminine features allowed me to hit a bitch who was bullying me all year in front of the teacher and not be punished.

Things have gotten better, beating bullies up a little usually makes them stop.

>>6526842
>when dealing with most of the population your looks are probably an annoyance to you

>tfw somewhat feminine looks
>people will sometimes have trouble telling my gender
>have got "complaints" from older women when they identify me as a man
>"oh great, a faggot", "oh yeah he looks like a faggot", "disgusting", etc
>I just wanted to have a loving gf who would praise me for being qt

Fuck society

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>>6526873
>>6526865
forgot reply thingy

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>>6526828
It's only two parts. I have both, so I'll upload the second. Did you mean you also want the "When in Doubt, Eat Her Out" guide as well?

>>6526880
>MFW dutch
>This diet would forbid literally 99% of Dutch dietary customs.

The kind of shit i put up with.

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>>6526873
>>6526879
>>6526877
yeah i got bullied too for looking feminine and being so docile. Being always told to "man up" or "why are you so small/weak?".

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>>6526885
Shut up and eat your greens boy

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>>6526887
Maybe i would eat my vegetables if i could cook some palatable eastern cuisine. My choice is basically: Potatoes, cabbage and carrots.

That or nasty ass spaghetti. The mantra at my place seems to be "Good medicine tastes bad".

i am trying though, i stopped eating as much potato chips and ate fruit instead, so thats a start. I will also start eating less fast food because im not making money atm.

>>6526856
>I am always carefull with "some studies suggest" because they are often cherry picked or not yet solidified in the scientific community.

It is objective that birth control lowers testosterone levels in females.

>>6526894
I was talking about the other stuff

>>6526877

I would praise you, anon. Don't give up.

I'd also flip out on anyone who talked shit about you and call them the most dire slurs I could muster.

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>>6526899
>I'd also flip out on anyone who talked shit about you and call them the most dire slurs I could muster.
Please go on

>>6526572
Moderately qt is fine. Decent face+ nice body (which comes in a variety of shapes and sizes!) + qt personality, that's a fine mix.

>>6526891
try refried beans, you can make a ton of them at once, they last ages and are incredibly cheap, plus they're delicious with a little cheddar

I know how you feel, I lived on nothing but beans cabbage and potatoes for almost a year

>>6526730
...you better share pics and stories, anon. I'm so jealous holy shit
one day my bara sub will come ;w;

>>6526733
this is just a stupid question, we're fucking people man, we vary as much as any other group of people ever.

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>>6526899
continue...

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I need to show my feline moving style more often then. Been repressing it since I was a kid.

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What's the female version of a bara anyway?

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>>6526899
Couldn't help but feeling a bit warm from your post. If only I could find someone like you irl.

Oh well. Thank you.

>>6526849
a somewhat easy way is to incorporate roasted vegetables into your diet. make a goal, of lets say...a bowl of roast veggies with every lunch and dinner. i saw a really easy way of preparing roasted veggies online. they just cut up sweet potatoes, broccoli, zucchini, ect, threw it into a baking pan with oil and salt and baked it for like 20 mins on i forgot which temp. it seemed so easy.

>>6526901

My hobby in high school used to be getting into fights with people who would mess with food service / retail workers. This was after I quit my retail job because it sucked and I still had a lot of pent up insults I had wanted to lay into a few of my customers. The store I work in was over a bar so late at night it was pretty much just drunk assholes wandering in for cigs and making messes I had to clean up.

If you've never made a huge scene in a city Subway fighting with a fat Puerto Rican lady after she called the nice little subway girl stupid, I highly recommend it. If it's a middle age lady, insulting her weight and throwing in a cunt is enough to get the ball rolling into something interesting.

>>6526909
hambeast?

>>6526913
Oh that is a good idea. I also recently ate raw carrots cat along the lenght in 4 parts. They were crunchy and sweet, will try tomorrow.

>>6526919
You are an angel.

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>>6526919
>be a trap at home, femboi in public
>work retail
>made fun of at least once a day
I found out that I liked girl fashion more than boy fashion a while ago, but stopped wearing dresses in public once I graduated high school. Peep can be very very mean (my voice is a giveaway to my being a boy.) Thank you for doing this, I don't think people consider cashiers human 90% of the time...

>>6526923
Not quite right I don't feel... Butch maybe.

>>6526929
Female fashion is certainly more interesting.

>>6526929

There aren't enough traps on the map, you better be on there.

>>6526929
Female fashion is interesting but i could never see myself wear it.

But maybe that sjust because im a metalhead and thus mostly wear black.

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>>6526934
>>6526936
I'm taken, sorry. Every story post usually gets a reply saying I'm lying so I've just resorted to image posting and discussion.

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>>6526946
what kinda metal?

>>6526929
I've trying wearing girls clothes. Was nice but super embarrassing. Don't think I could get used to it.

>>6526946

Girls are allowed to wear black and metal paraphernalia, anon.

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>>6526891
See >>6526905

I'm by no means short on cash but god damn I love me my cheap carbs. Refried beans are great.

Also, as you mentioned veg, maybe try fruit instead if you really want. Just bear in mind a lot of fruit is high in sugar (therefore, carbs). Fruit is generally a lot more expensive to eat than veg and meat - at least it is here anyway.

>>6526929
I flirt with cashiers a lot, male and female. I always wondered if it was annoying but I don't know any - is it? I've never worked retail but I've spent years dealing with customers, often irate and I loved it when people were grateful. Also yeah, women can wear such a huge range of clothes with different styles. I'm pretty sure that fashion for guys has basically been shirt and jeans since... well, a long time.

>>6526946
Girls seem to get away with "metal" clothes much more easily than guys do without being deemed as social pariahs. I already look grumpy according to some people so I dress like a normie despite being a metalhead.

>>6526949
Dont worry anon, those are just bitter people who resent the world and try to limit their loneliness by telling themselves that its not their fault, because people like you don't exist.

>>6526956
Sabaton, powerwolf, deathstars, alestorm, elyveitie, kontrust, rammstein, sonata arctica, symphony x, krusader and tyr.

I also listen to Rise against, anti flag, talco, sum41, the offspring and some system of a down and green day.

>>6526958
Women metal fashion does not differ that much from male metal fashion. When people talk about "girls fashion", band shirts and cargo pants/jeans is not what i think about.

>>6526966
>Sabaton, powerwolf, deathstars, alestorm, elyveitie, kontrust, rammstein, sonata arctica, symphony x, krusader and tyr.
p-please be a qt female. If so you are perfect if not wouldtouchweinerswith/10

>>6526963
>Girls seem to get away with "metal" clothes much more easily than guys do without being deemed as social pariahs. I already look grumpy according to some people so I dress like a normie despite being a metalhead.

Hmm, i dont get that impression here. Unless "metal shirts" are those nirvana shirts that every 12 year old and their moms are wearing, because thats the closest think i can think off when i think about girls wearing metal fashion.

>>6526972
Sorry to disappoint you anon. I thought i heavily implied it in the post you responded to though.

>>6526963
By and large I don't think cashiers want you flirting with them. They're at work and therefore have no way to get away if they aren't into it. I'm sure some love it, but that's the exception not the rule. Be respectful, not flirty.

>>6526946

Dress like this: https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/ff/b1/74/ffb17418b1198feeca6b17278b8436c9.jpg

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>>6526978
You sounds like a cool guy anyways. But yeah guys metal fashion is just a black t-shirt and black pants. Basically all I wear also.

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>>6526963
From when I worked two jobs:
Being flirted with as a gas station cashier was cute. Less crowded and stressful environment, gave subtle compliments, brightened my day unless they were just total creepers.
Being flirted with as a supermarket cashier has never happened. I wish it did because that one was stressful as all heck and had the biggest jerks of all time.

>>6527014
There was a cashier at my local supermarket for a while who was taller than me (read: above 6ft) and I talked to her quite often. I wonder if she was into gfd. Haven't seen her in a while though.

>>6526949
For every one asshole claiming you're lying I guarantee there's a whole lot more who enjoyed the story.

>>6526906
I'm a bara sub from California. Where are you?

>>6526963
For the love of fuck don't flirt with cashiers or anyone else servicing you on the job.

It's their job to smile and be polite. They can't disengage or turn you down. They have to reciprocate whether they want to or not. And if they make any kind of scene, they risk their livelihoods. And by scene I don't even mean shouting at you to fuck off. The most polite possible turn-down can set some men crazy (I'm sure you wouldn't go crazy, but she doesn't know that).

A few women will like it. Most don't. Don't do it.

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>>6527022
UK. I'm that one UK bara enthusiast who posts like, every thread.

At least tonight I have a nice boy messaging me about his fantasies of having a domme force him to work out so he'd be all tired and she could take advantage of him. I mean, he's on another continent, but the conversation is still nice.

>>6527037
Gimme a while and there'll be at least one UK barasub

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Tfw still no gentle gf to make cookies and give a massage to when she comes home from work.
:(

>>6527041
Dedication.

I like being thin too much.

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>>6527041
Fucking fantastic! Where are you based? Are you just getting into lifting now?

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>>6527042
>tfw learned to cook at a young age
>Really enjoy cooking for myself and others
>Always eat alone
why did you remind me.

>>6527043
Started working my way down from like 350lbs last year, I'm at about 265 now (6'1 for reference)

>>6527044
I'm up in the north east, I've been on SL 5x5 for about 3 months now

>>6527047
Ha, I've been steady 154 forever. All I do it run and swim though.

>>6527049
I get too bored of cardio so I just lift the heavy things, weight loss will probably plateau at some point if I don't start though

>>6527045
At least you can cook

>>6527047
Progress, keep it up.
I am about your height (maybe a bit taller) and weight about 85kg. Im below avarage in height among my peers though.

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>>6527047
Well, in my opinion guys who used to be fat make the best baras because of dat chest, so godspeed anon <3

>>6527057
>at least you can cook
their is nothing worse than eating alone honestly. It like all the loneliness you feel just crashes down on you.

>>6527065
Its not too bad honestly.

Maybe im just getting used to being alone. You know what is worse than eating alone? Eating your own horrible uneatable food alone.

>>6527037
Oh, I feel hurt now. You didn't want to talk to me just because I'm in France. I could even go to the UK and let you do whatever you want with me, you know.

>>6527062
Thanks! Hopefully I can do some internet people proud on my quest for the swolegoal

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>>6527065
oh yeah? try to deal with someone who in the middle of the night decides to make some food and makes kitchen all noisy and full of smells

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>>6527071
I didn't want to talk to you because I asked to get in contact with ////UK bara guys//// and you decided to just shoehorn your ass in there. Rude af and super offputting.

>>6527069
I can never get used to sitting a table and eating alone.If you cooking is that bad you may want to buy a cookbook and follow the recipe exactly how it says.

>>6527074
>implying this isn't a fantastic thing
I sometimes cook full meals at like 3am so that doesnt seem that bad to me.

>>6527075
Aah. I just meant that I also think conversation would be nice and I could easily be a ///UK bara guy///.

>>6526730
Barasubs are best sub.

I share a similar problem.

>>6526880
post that anyway

>>6527079
but when you're alone, you're free do whatever you like, whenever you like. there's nobody there who wants to sleep
as for meals, if i'd ever like to share my food, i can always ask the neighbour granny tho she might not like my exotic cuisine

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>>6527086
fuck you, 4chan. i'll be posting pics

>>6525828
not sure were to put this, but i was matched with a poly okcupid girl who says shes into domming men. How do i ask her about it organically in conversation? Obviously, i shouldn't be creepy about it, but im a bit apprehensive about this.

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>>6527088

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>>6527093

>>6527089
I'm guessing it's on her profile? Just ask her, she's obviously pretty open about it if she's broadcasting it. Just make sure you're actually somewhat acquainted with each other before doing it.

>>6527051
Good luck and all that.

>>6527071
France and England together? Ha!

Anyone got any knights?

>>6527107
yeah, i don't really know all of what i'd want. i don't have much kink experience.

>>6527089

Start with a normal introduction. Then after a few conversations bring it up politely.

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>>6527089
Whatever you do, don't do like I did and get drunk beforehand and send them the message at like 3AM asking if they want to drink and watch a specific movie that I had just watched.
Fuckin' whoops.

>>6527123
whats wrong with that? was it a lewd movie?

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>>6527045
I just want someone to cook for.
I only wish to share my feels.

>>6526848
It's not because of birth control, it's natural attraction. Feminine men wouldn't exist if our female ancestors didn't actively keep choosing them thorough history before birth control was invented.

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>>6526828
>>6526880

Would anyone mind posting the social interaction one?

>inb4 fuck off to /r9k/

>>6527130
Exactly, we are not gazorpazorps

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>>6526885
oh, sorry hoor, ik zal volgende keer speciaal voor jou een Nederlandse versie maken. Als ik ooit tijd heb om die andere guides eens af te maken dan...

>>6527085
here you go

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>>6527085

>>6527136
No need to be so angry anon, its just a joke.

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>>6527126
Nah, it was The Phantom Carriage. Like I said I had just watched it, and man I really like that movie.
It just came across really poorly and weirdly specific. And maybe it's weird to ask if they want to drink like in a non-public setting (because where else are we going to watch that movie) as a conversation starter. I am not good at this.
At least I assume, unless she is just trying to craft a hell of a response and is taking her time with it.

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>>6527138
what is sarcasm

>>6527140
Those arms. Oh god.

Hnnnng

>>6526857
>>6526850

Sexual orientation is weird, isn't it? How some gay guys actually like breasts but then you occasionally find straight guys who only like flat chests, right?

I don't normally browse through threads like these because I'm gay but even though I love traps and their feminine forms I have absolutely no interest in boobs or vaginas at all. I always thought that was weird.

(And kind of annoying. I actually find bara women really hot but I just can't like vaginas.)

>>6526847

I've been told by a lot of people that I have very feminine mannerisms even compared to most girls, and on top of that I look very feminine as well. People actually assume I'm trans rather than gay.

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>>6527033

Fucking this. Please do not hit on me while I'm working. I will under no circumstances pursue a relationship with a living reminder that service workers like me are not considered human.

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>>6527133
I didn't know there was one of those. but I want to see it to now

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>>6527142
Sarcasm is hard to convey through text alone

Waar kom je vandaan eiegnlijk? m/v? (kan morgen lezen moet nu slapen ben ziek enzo)

>>6527149
I'm still on the old map, was one of the first that posted on there, you'll be able to find me.

>>6527156
I live relatively close by you.

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>>6527156
>>6527158

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post pics

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>>6527158
that's pretty dank

>>6526584

Pleb question, but is this facechat or textchat? I don't use skype.

>>6527199
Just a textchat. So far at least.

>>6527203

Thanks. Does anyone use it?

>>6527207
Depends on the time of day, it shifts in and out of being active. I think most of us are pretty nocturnal by the looks of it.

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>>6527020
Nice to hear. Might tell another one later, but still very insecure. Femanon did finally call, turns out her uncle got hurt on a construction job and got hospitalized. He lives relatively far away. Doesn't know if she will be home tomorrow or Wednesday. Anyone know of something cute I can do to surprise her? I'm pretty bad at surprises.

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Wish I could commission this artist to draw more sheep boy + wolf girl stuff. It's just so freaking adorable

>>6527216
i guess it's safe to assume that she'll come home tired, so if you can time it right getting a warm bath ready (with a nice massage session on top) would probably be a good idea, no?

>>6527216
This.>>6527216 + food

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>>6527216
Please do tell. Cooking a meal for when she gets home would likely be good.

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>>6527217
By the way, does anyone here know enough moon to translate one of these comics? That would be really helpful.

>>6525816
Really happy actually

I've been feeling like crud (physically), but im getting better and writing

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>>6526279
The thing that pisses me off is it seems like you're more worried you won't be able to be with her romantically rather than worried about her and her situation.

>>6526291
wtf no

>>6527249
all of this projecting

jfc you people read way too much into shit

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>>6526584
you fucking keks let me in

>>6527037
I'm in the UK too. Whereabouts do you live?

>>6526307

That'a why something like pair dancing classes are so great. They're structured for you, no dance lasts long enough for you to run out of things to say, the barrier for small talk goes out the window when you're both amateurishly learning to dance, you know you're wanted there, and if you encounter someone who you don't mesh well with you can just focus on the dancing. Rinse and repeat for 20+ different girls in an hour. It's the perfect social training/speed-dating scheme. Fun too.

>>6526828
>less beer and pepperoni
Why live?

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>>6527288
Nice dubs.
I have kind of wanted to learn how to dance for a bit. I have a very good center of balance and I think I can be graceful.
I'll have to think about it. Maybe should have taken dance in college for instead of racquetball or tennis.
A little bit scary to have to make physical contact with a bunch of people (women, no less) that I don't know, though, and by scary I mean terrifying.

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>>6526311
>tfw you will have no cute octopus girl to sit on your lap and ride you in such an innocent yet dominating way

>>6527263
wait does this board autocorrect keks to keks or are my fingers just stupid

>>6527305
Keks
Keks
Keks
Fuck.

>>6527305
HAHAHA IT DOES I LOVE IT

what happens if you write out kekold

>>6527307
Kek

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>>6527296

I did it during university. It does seem pretty scary, but if anything I can promise that like ripping off a band-aid you'll get over the fear quickly this way. It does seem like jumping into the deep end, and I guess it kind of is, but it beats making agonizingly slow progress at parties and clubs and shit.

>>6527305

Yeah, new wordfilter. f a m and t b h are filtered as well.

>>6527314
senpai desu

>>6527315
OH MY GODHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>6527314
>>6527315
>tfw senpai keks you
sucks desu

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>>6527318
This tickles my pickel desu

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>eat her out
>tastes odd
>smells like fish
>brushed my teeth smell wont go away
>mouthwash
>soap to face + mouth
>still smells

Beware the pussy. It SMELLS.

>>6527314
what is desu filtered to

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>>6527315
>>6527318
>>6527314
>hiroshima doing good work

I approve of this. Also that explains why I've seen a lot of senpai desu in other boards.

>>6527313
I'm currently doing it and I'm not having a very good time. I guess that's just because I'm awkward as fuck, but I can tell I creep people out.

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>>6527322
no shit sherlock

>>6527337
I for one welcome our Asian moot overlord.

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>>6527330

keep digging watson

>>6527322
There are ways to prevent this.
Doms here, please pay attention.
You like oral, we like performing it. But it your vag is like a two day old dead fish you'll find we don't like it nearly as much as you like receiving it.
So to improve this try eating pineapple, yogurt or both. Avoid eating a lot of processed sweeties like candy bars and little Debbie baked treats.
If this doesn't help you may need to practice better higine or it may just be harder to clean. If you already do have good vaginal hygene try fragrence free wet wipes.
The bad taste/smell is usually due to an imbalance in vaginal bacteria. If these don't help you may need a doctor.

>>6527339
It's a nice change desu senpai

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How do I tell my brain to stop fucking falling in love with her just because she gives me attention?

In all likelihood she just wants a good friendship which we can have since we have a lot in common. Why do I want more than just a good friend? I don't want to get my hopes up and be that guy who falls in love with the first girl who gives him attention. I know I wouldn't be right for her anyway.