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Reminder that /aco/ (you have to type in the whole url, you can't even link to it since An Hiro hasn't figured out how to properly add boards yet) is now a thing, so any western art goes there and not here.

I don't even browse /d/ this shit's disgusting, I just thought I'd pass the word from /qa/
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http: //boards.4chan.org /aco/
Try this without the spaces.
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About fucking time. Please let this get the western shit out of /d/.
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>>6477684
ah bloo bloo
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>>6477708
you have your own board now
go shitpost there
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>>6477662
I wonder how long it'll be before a western alternative board needs to be made
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>>6477684
>let's banish almost half the content on this board!

...kay?
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Rip in pieces /d/
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Answer honestly and truthfully:

Do you regret finding this board at all?
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So we'll just make a new board ever time people don't like thing huh.
So, we're reddit now.
Not even memeing, we're literally just reddit.
Guess I have to try out celibacy for a while.
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>>6477662
So this is a thing that's not going to happen. Western art is here to stay even if some of it is pretty trashy.
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RIP /d/, so many 10-post threads are gonna slide right off both boards because there isn't enough content in niche fetishes without including both sides of the ocean. Or does this new board allow eastern art as well?
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>>6477811
If it allows eastern art then there's absolutely no reason for it to exist in the first place since at that point it's just /d/ 2.0 with less pages.

I can't help but think some assmad weeaboo still pissy at the fact the "no western," rule not having been enforced for years decided the ascension of chink moot provided a golden opportunity to get their way and went and bitched for it. Nobody else who's been a /d/ regular for the passed 5+ years cares or sees a reason for this.

I mean, just take a look at the Orc Chick thread. That entire thing would have to be moved, there's virtually nothing eastern in it.
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>>6477662

Yea, how about you fuck off. Good porn is good porn, and alternative really doesn't have that much anyway. Fuck off with your elitist bull.
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Could just end up being a COming inspired Alternative porn board, because I can't see the two being mutually exclusive.
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>>6477662

>No more western art
>Posts Homer fucking Simpson

Yea ok, whatever dipshit.
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>>6477662

Go back to whatever boring board you came from, we've got daily Dimitri posts which are Western that arn't going anywhere. 50% + of the content in here are non slit-eyes style, nothing's going to change because it's what /d/ likes.
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>>6477838
found the manlet :^^)
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>>6477847
Simpsons is made in America, making it west.
Technically should be reported.
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>>6477844

> :^^)

Found the 12 year old
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>>6477849

Are we going to enforce that just to piss on this a-hole? I mean, /d/'s community has 9/10 been fine with Western for a while, as in all honesty it's just more content from exceptionally niche fetishes.
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>>6477851
I don't even know what to do anon.
I'm not even a big west art person, I just want crazy shit to rip my dick off too.
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>>6477855

>I just want crazy shit to rip my dick off too.

Don't we all
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So what, we have to make two threads for two different thing sin two boards to get my obscure fetish?
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Looks like we're gonna have a schism. I have a feeling that the /aco/ crowd will start to complain about the /d/-er stuff and there will be an updated set of rules soon.
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>>6477881
What next? /daco/?
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I don't mind western shit since there's good stuff among the bad, but fuck there's like 1 good for every 4 bad. I like cartoony, but the ones with more realistic faces are unfappable most of the time, and everytime I'm in the transformation/fusion threads I have to wade through stuff made by that one thick lip bimbo transformation guy or that fat slime + fusion artist guy. Unfortunately these are still material that keeps the thread alive so their removal would probably kill lots of threads around here, plus we'd lose the few good ones.
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Western art is against the rules on /d/, see >>>/d/rules/3 . Now that /aco/ has opened, there is more of an official home for this kind of content.
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thank god

western garbage was never supposed to be on this board in the first place
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>>6477895
Except like people have said, that's going to kill off a shit ton of content here and people on /aco/ aren't going to like the freakier stuff.

90+% of the tf threads aren't from Japan, for instance.
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>>6477895
Welp it's confirmed now.
Also, could you please permaban me, god of 4chan?
I want to be witnessed.
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>>6477895
Is Hiroshima nice to you guys?
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Wait a second, the /d/rawthreads!

What about them?
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>>6477909
will probably stay since there are /h/ drawthreads
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>>6477901
>people on /aco/ aren't going to like the freakier stuff

a lot of boards already have a huge variety of content, like /gif/, and it works fine
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>>6477914
But isn't a lot of it considered western?
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>>6477917
/gif/ is moving images, so it always had weird porn on it.

How is /aco/ going to react to vore or diapers?
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>>6477895
Well.
Fuck 4reddit
I'm not wading through 30 boards to look for 4 minorly different pictures of porn.
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Yesssss

I remember a time before normies took over. When /d/ as a whole looked down on western art.
Maybe this will finally set us free from the PC gang roaming the trap threads, the relationshit crap, all those inane western kinks like berries and inanimate tf.

I'm gonna lurk harder. I stopped coming here since 2010 because I couldn't tolerate the bs anymore but things are gonna change now
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>>6477919
yeah I guess

/h/ artists draw in an eastern style so some drawfags may need to move to /aco/

>>6477924
worst comes to worst, shitposters shitpost and get banned
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>>6477906

He's better than moot, Farting Bianca
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Oh boy. We /u/ now? Are you prepared for threads that last months at a time, sustained by a post every few days?
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>>6477928
>Inanimate TF
>Western.

Hah, the best stuff comes from Japan.
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>>6477940
that typically applies to literally everything

good riddance
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>>6477938
Slow isn't bad.

Quality is more important.
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So we can pretty much just rename this place to /futa/ now, right?
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>>6477938
the oldest thread on /d/ was created on 08/02/15
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>>6477938
A lot better than constant dupe threads with nothing but reposts and stupid chatting
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>>6477938
You know what would offset that?

Allowing loli/shota on /d/
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>>6477889

To be fair, I consider the same with anime/hentai, 1 good for every 4 bad.
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>>6477684


i agree. We gonna remove hand holding too? that shot disgusing
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>>6477953
No, everything from glorious rand of rising sun, nippon, is glorious, none bad, all other bad.
Is zero bad for erery good
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We should just change /d/ to "Alternative" tbh, and make it the exception to the no western rule.

Mainly because, at this point, there's too much overlap.

In an ideal world /aco/ wouldn't habe an effect on /d/, and would basically be a board for western rule 34 and western porn, which is a good idea imo. You know autistic weebs won't be able to leave well enough alone, and we'll end up with a segregated community which means less prob for everyone as /d/ is already slow enough as it is.

>inb4 some retarded solution like an all western /d/ alongside hentai /d/ because they don't want their board shit up with "obscure fetish shit."
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>>6477951
>dupe threads with nothing but reposts and stupid chatting

Have you been to /u/? Less content doesn't prevent people from making the same thread over and over again. When threads are slower, people start connecting with others who share their interests. Soon, you return to the thread, not for images, but for discussion. Then you realize the horrible truth. You're in a general thread.

>inb4 /dg/
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>>6477662
Reminder that all modern anime stems from its design basis off classic disney animation
Making it pseudowestern.
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>>6477895
This is by an artist basis and not the theme, correct?
Japanese artist drawing a dickgirl of Wonder Woman would go here but a Western artist drawing a giantess of Princess Peach would go to /aco/?
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>>6477838
I forgot I wasn't on Facebook and I just tried to like your post.
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>>6477990
>unironically admitting this
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>>6477895
So what are you going to do with all the Western shit in here right at this moment? Delete half of the board?
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>>6477901
/aco/ is a new board; it hasn't had time to develop a culture. Plus, the mods say that Western/Alternative content goes there. As such, it's perfectly safe for /d/ to invade it.

If anyone on /aco/ is inclined to complain about weird porn winding up on a porn board, they're shit out of luck.
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>>6477957
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>>6477895

Nobody likes this decision except maybe 1 in 20, why the hell are you enforcing it?

/d/ doesn't shit up the other boards, and usually just keeps to itself and it's own little fetishes. Why are you fucking this up?
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Thank fuck. I was tired of awful western artists getting attention here.
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>>6477662
will the /size/ threads and the trap threads take a majoir hit?
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>>6478027

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxtlcrIkIbI
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>>6477895
Here is my question: Will alternative shit such as vore, BBW, shortstacks, and futa be allowed over there if the art is of western origin?
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>>6478038
yes
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>>6477662
Ummm...why? I though Drawn Pinups was /e/, Drawn Vanilla Porn was /h/ and Drawn Weird Porn /d/?

Why do we need to make another board based country of origin? Why does this matter?
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>>6478042
I don' want to see family guy or fairly odd parents while I'm fapping, thanks.
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>>6478029

A lot of staple threads will be hurt, with traffic being split up between multiple threads in multiple boards. /d/ will be slower and have less content, and more niche fetishes will be lost in the shuffle entirely on whatbwill inevitably be a faster and more populated, broader topic board.
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>>6478042
western shit was never allowed on /e/ or /h/

/d/ has the same rule, but for some reason mods never enforced it
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>>6478048
>but for some reason mods never enforced it
laziness
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>>6478050

More that I think there was no harm in it, still isn't. /d/ fetishes are the far end of extreme and there's barely much content as it is, I simply don't understand people wanting this rule enforced.
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>>6478054
>there's barely much content as it is

maybe for the really, really obscure shit

but people were just posting western art for fetishes that already had a lot of eastern art, just to post western art
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>>6478054
>I simply don't understand people wanting this rule enforced.

Because its not glorious nippon, land of rising sun, art.
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>>6478048
As bloody obvious by viewing homer simpson picture in op.
>>6477895
Double bloody obvious mod is aware of western content and used his/her judgement to let it pass,
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>>6478060
I don't think /d/ has mods, that mod is probably from another board
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>>6478056

Basically the only /d/ fetish that there's a shit-tonne of art is futa, and I remember the days of /d/ being only eastern art and it was basically 95% futa.

We've got so much more than just Futa, I personally enjoy most of the weird shit here, we lose more by enforcing this rule than we could ever gain.
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>>6478062

Then they should probably fuckin' stay there. The 'ban' on Western art is like the US's ban on weed. Just pointless feelgood posturing.
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>>6478063
Pretty sure fetishes like vore and size related shit have hundreds if not thousands of pieces of eastern art

except no one posts it, leading to the conclusion that there is no eastern art of it

and there's plenty of fetishes where there is much less western content, like cyclops or tentacles, or monster girls

>>6478068
>The 'ban' on Western art is like the US's ban on weed.

they're hardly comparable now that there is a designated area to post it in
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Great, now I'll have to wade through hoards of faggots and their eternal Adventure Time, Steven Universe, Frozen, etc threads and other boring vanilla threads in the hopes of maybe finding one of my obscure fetish threads if they haven't already been pushed to page 10 by normie shit.

Thanks mods.
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>>6478075
so instead of wading through giantess and futa threads, you have to wade through frozen and korra threads?

oh no!
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>>6478068
Clapping.gif
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>>6478075
Catalog ignorant ??
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>>6478071

Even on your example of Vore, Same-size vore is exceptionally rare in eastern. The problem is, by denying based on a style really does narrow down our selection for really stupid reasons
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>>6477895
for fucks sake this was a bad decision
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>>6478078
Yes shit with minor interest compared to no interest.
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>>6478071

The problem is that Western Art general is too broad a topic to support smaller frtish communities.

Just like how Hentai is too broad for alt shit, which is why /d/ exists in the first place
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>>6478085
Hentai translates into pervert or perverted content.

It is only in western countries that hentai is translated into vanilla missionary position only sex between male and female.
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>>6478083
deal with it
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So many mad tumblr fucks here. Go back to your containment board already and leave /d/ alone. Western shit has never been allowed here.
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>>6477895
Hey, a mod posted in one of my threads. Totally taking a screenshot.
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>>6478092
>irony
>your head
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>>6478095

I've been here for 5 years, the anti-western rule has almost never been enforced and we're all the better for it. More content is better.
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>>6478096

In your thread?

Then allow me to repeat what many already have said:

Fuck you
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>>6478099
>More content is better

not everyone shares your sentiment
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Well, /d/, say goodbye to half your content. Introducing a new board which will also have half the content and even more spread out due to being a splinter of like six different boards.

As if new content wasn't already scarce enough.
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>>6478095
I enjoy both eastern and western art. /d/ was a convenient onestop for most of my kinky, quirky shit, and has been for years. Didn't give a fuck where something is drawn or in what style if it can get me off, and having a board dedicated to collecting art for all of my fetishes was great.

Now the community will be torn in two, and most content and discussion will be lost as a result.
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>>6478101
Guess we should make a new board for them

/dslo/ for little content
/dfst/ for more
There everyone happy.
Wait
/dsest/
/dfswe/
There.
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lol

To all the people complaining about lack of rare content, then commission it or learn to draw.

/d/ was always about posting the finer stuff, not being your personal feed.
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>>6478099
And I remember when /d/ was 99% Eastern stuff before tumblr invaded.

Now you have your own board. Go there.
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>>6478103

If it happens, guess I'll be leaving /d/.
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>>6478109
>posting the finer stuff,
I don't think you know what finer means.
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>>6478107
why don't we just merge cm, hm, and y together, they're all gay and we can have more content?
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>>6478099
It has been enforced. But with little real hard and fast guidelines or notable exceptions other than demitris and no toons.
Seeing threads full of western after being banned for posting western has become a big problem.
Hope the new board is a fix.
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Can't post Xenos/Bug Girls/Monster Girls on /aco/, so I guess I'm here to stay.
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>>6477895
YOU BETTER BAN ANIME SHIT ON THERE ON SIGHT
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>>6478115
I have no idea if I went I could probably find something to complain about.
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>>6478095
>>6478099
yeah /d/ has almost always had a certain amount of western
I think it helps keep threads filled with fresh/good content, especially for more niche fetishes.
If /aco/ stays I'm gonna leave /d/ altogether, dividing everything this much could be the downfall of the porn boards
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>>6478109

You're actually in support of stagnant art styles?
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>>6478120
>fresh/good content

maybe 20% of the time
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>>6478120

I agree with this guy.
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>>6478113
Samesies, I just wish I could believe that /aco/ will be a good place at all. It won't, we're sharing with /h/, /e/, /u/, and /y/. I can look down this board and be interested in half the threads and find a bit of good content in each of them. Now there'll be half that in /d/ and a tenth of that in /aco/. RIP
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>>6478123

Don't even pretend that Eastern art is good 100% of the time, it's about as hit and miss as Western.
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Finally /d/ will die. Half of the posts here were western stuff

enjoy yet another dead board, you bunch of wapanese
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holy shit this is going to end badly
/d/ is for weird shit, /h/ is for vanilla hentai
im fine with vanilla western going to /aco/, but /aco/ can't handle all the fetishes on /d/ along with normal porn
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>>6478128
yes but the people posting eastern typically have the courtesy to not post shit they found on deviantart

and I wouldn't say they're equally shit

western is about 60% shit and eastern is about 40%
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>>6478128
No is awrays good, onry good comes from nippon, rand of rising sun, glorious nippon number ichiban.
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>>6478132
99% of statistics are made up on the spot.
Plus your little confirmation bias.
Cool opinion though.
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>>6477895

Can someone wellspoken please write to Hiroshima and tell him what a bad idea this is for /d/?

Bonus points if you know japanese fluently.
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Why can't /aco/ just have vanilla western shit (like /h/ just has vanilla eastern shit) while /d/ has freaky shit from wherever. I don't like that my fetish porn is being sub divided by origin, I just want to fap to some specific shit.
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>>6478071
>Hardly comparable now that there is a designated area to post it in
And all the potheads moved to Colorado, did they?
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>>6478146
>I just want to fap to some specific shit.
>>6477855
>>6477857

These.
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>>6478144
It's just logic, the eastern 2d porn market is so much bigger than the western one

eastern artists usually draw to make money
western artists usually draw just to draw (b-but muh patreon)

there's just an intrinsic difference of quality expected

>>6478147
don't be a retard, physically moving hundreds, thousands of miles is much different than 3 clicks
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>>6478131
>>6478146
this, I don't care where my /d/ art comes from, just as long as it all stays on this board
if I want to jack off to some girls farting or peeing themselves I don't want to start/open 2 different threads on 2 different boards
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>>6478154
>eastern artists usually draw to make money
>western artists usually draw just to draw

Well, can't really rebuke that...
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>>6478154

Yea, bull. "Eastern is so much bigger than Western", stop talking shit. Even as a general number, the West has a significantly larger population than Japan.
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>>6478045
Yeah, because we totally had a huge Family Guy spam problem right?

>>6478047
Kiss the bimbo threads and a good half or more of the fantasy threads goodbye.

Also, I don't think you guys realize this, but there are a shit load of western artists that contribute to the draw threads that aren't going to be allowed around here now.

>>6477895
Why does /aco/ have so few pages compared to /d/?
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>>6478164
good one lad

>>6478165
>Why does /aco/ have so few pages compared to /d/?

probably because it's a beta board or whatever the fuck

well, probably
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>>6477895
Nice work killing the board.
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>>6478095
Honestly, my smut folders are about half and half eastern and western but at this point I'm done with /d/. If it's just going to become a slow gelbooru then I have no reason to be here.
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>>6478095
/d/ will be a dead board
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>>6478176
This.
4chan in general is pretty obsolete at this point.
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>>6478176
a slow gelbooru as compared to literally sankaku?
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>>6478183
as opposed*
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>>6478117
Hate to break it to you, but the xeno threads have been almost completely western content for a while so they're not gonna fly around here.
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welp
if /aco/ becomes permanent then I'm leaving 4chan, this was the last board I visited on 4chan and now it's about to die
goodbye /d/ I really enjoyed it here
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>>6478187
They're no more against the rules now than before /aco/ was made, so there's no reason to suddenly crack down on them.
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to all the people bitching

just go to 8gag with the other malcontents and make your own board jesus christ

goodbye
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>>6477895
nice work killing this board, It was the closest thing I had to a girlfriend.

Now fucking ban me before I come to your house and blind you with salty cum spray, you scurvy faggot
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>>6477952
Fuck that. Absolutely disgusting.
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>>6478045

I've been here a long time, and I legit havn't seen either of that,
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>>6478194
Did you not see the moderator post?
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>>6478201
>Absolutely disgusting

so is whatever you're in /d/ for
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>>6477952

fuck off pedo
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>>6477895
you obviously don't know /d/ very well
>>6477952
fuck no
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>>6478205

>wanting to fuck kids

There's a line dude, don't cross it
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>>6478210
>>6478209
>>6478207
>>6478201

So many people don't want to try the subway diet.
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>>6478204
What, this one >>6477895?
Yes, and it doesn't change anything.

Due to /aco/'s shoddy interpretation of Global Rule 3, xeno/monster girl/bug girl thread are banned there.

Trust me, I tried.

They're not banned here though, so for all intents and purposes, /aco/ may as well not exist.
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>>6478201
>>6478207
>>6478209
>make post
>2 hours later multiple people reply to it

hmmm lad

what board you from?
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>>6478216

probably /b/
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>>6478216
Nice conclusion but I saw the pedo post because of the other guys reply being the newest post
loli is never going to be on /d/
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>>6478217
which is probably why they're assmad about loli

because loli shouldn't be in fucking /b/
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>>6478205
There's nothing more disgusting than wanting to fuck kids or see kids get fucked. Take the happiest memory you have as a child. Now change that scenario to you getting fucked in the ass by the sweaty gross fuck you currently are, before you developed the twisted fetish you have and before you had a chance to understand the reasoning.

And as it stands, my /d/ fetish involves women of consenting age, without cocks, without bodily fluids covering them, without lack of fucking able consent. So you still win the disgusting title of worst fetish possible. Necrophilia would be better.
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>>6478220

/b/ has loli all the time
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>>6478220
Shouldn't be anywhere. Make your own site for it and don't ruin everybody else's day.
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>>6478109
I don't think you understand what you're saying.
If you commission an artist or draw it yourself it is a Western product and as such it would be against the rules.
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>>6478221
>my /d/ fetish involves women of consenting age, without cocks, without bodily fluids covering them, without lack of fucking able consent

what is it then?

>>6478225
exactly
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>>6478230
Hand-holding.
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>>6478106
This.

One-stop porn shop is closing. May as well make my own /d/-themed Reddit multiboard.

Feel sorry for the drawfags/whores/friends though. This board has an almost constant stream of OC because of drawthreads.

Not to mention, the "no western" rule hasn't applied to /d/ four years. Can't we all just fap in harmony?
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>>6478232
that's definitely more disgusting
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>>6478230
how about you name one fetish that falls into that criteria that's more universally seen as disgusting than yours. I'll wait.
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>>6478215
You don't seem to understand that a great majority of xeno art is western and that is banned as of now.
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>>6478233
>Can't we all just fap in harmony?
iie, board must be split, glorious nippon rand ichiban.
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>>6478238
>implying loli is my fetish
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>>6478239
It's always been against /d/ rules.
It's not suddenly MORE against the rules.

The fact that /aco/ exists is irrelevant because, for some incomprehensible reason, it's BANNED there.

There's a 2 week old Xeno thread up right now.
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>>6477884
/cuteco/, /dco/, /lesco/, /gayco/. Something like that.

I mean why would these boards like /d/ exist in the first place if anyone honestly thought they could all happily coexist on /h/? That's glorious nippon onry to begin with so just delete all those boards and rename /h/ "adult anime".

That's about how dumb this half-assed "trial" board idea is.
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>>6478243
Okay, if you're a different anon jumping into the line of the discussion it's obviously confusing to know who you're talking to. My point stands.
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>>6478250
No, I'm the same anon as above

I'm suggesting loli be in /d/ because it inflames my autism that it's in /b/ and because /d/ already has shit like this

>>6444020

my main fetish is dickgirls, unfortunately
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>>6477895

"Hey /d/, we have a new board, go raid it!" - Mod, 2015
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>>6478252
Okay, kind of hard to do anything but assume when we're being vague.

I don't see an issue with dickgirls, simply not my taste. As long as the subject of your fetish is of a good age and is able to consent, nobody should give a shit what you want to jerk it to. But I don't want loli in d personally.
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>>6478154
>the eastern 2d porn market is so much bigger than the western one
The market itself maybe, but not in terms of raw content produced.

>eastern artists usually draw to make money
>western artists usually draw just to draw
Pray tell, how many eastern artists show up here on /d/ to draw things for free because a random anon's idea struck a chord, they're practicing or just because they feel like hanging out?

>there's just an intrinsic difference of quality expected
Only to people who are blatantly and obviously biased in one direction or another.

>>6478071
>except no one posts it, leading to the conclusion that there is no eastern art of it
Getting rid of western content isn't going to magically fix this.
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>>6478256
This
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>>6478145

Np i got this anon, im sure thisll work yes?
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>>6478255
>But I don't want loli in d personally

my point is it's already in fucking /d/, you clown

it would be much more easy and efficient to transfer loli to this board rather than create a new one

but I'm sure easily offended faggots like you would throw a bitchfit so I guess I'm reconsidering my suggestion
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>>6478245
It's likely they're just waiting for the current threads to die. The orc lady thread is completely western and writefags and still there, but that's a prime example of what this board now officially doesn't support.
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>>6478256
Yes, just ignore the use of the word "usually"

not all eastern artists draw for money but a majority sure do with at least some of their work

and raw amount produced has no correlation with quality
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>>6478136
>number ichiban.
my fucking sides
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who the fuck goes to a porn board for the style?

you go for content either to enjoy or avoid things

having everything there is kinda pointless and is gonna either push out content or only have people who are cool with everything their
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>>6478145

Hell, tell him it's a bad idea for all the current porn boards. This rips content from a few different boards, like /u/, /i/, and /cm/. It's going to do nothing but fracture already-existing communities, not add a new community. That's one thing moot always said he wanted to avoid unless it was overbearing (like /vp/'s break from /v/).

This also isn't a /vr/ situation where it provides a previously missing space to discuss a particular topic. This new board adds nothing but subtracts from everywhere else even casually related to it. For example, we'll lose /d/rawfriends, Dmitrys, InCase, several fetishes almost entirely, and what do we get in return? It's not an increase in quality, it's a decrease in activity and diversity, meaning we'll return to the days when the board is 85% futa, endless reposting of the same old shit, with the rare bump of new content in August and December. Nothing is improving with this decision for anybody, except for lewdfags in the /co/ drawthreads maybe.
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So if I want to make a thread about say... Bitchsuits where am I supposed to post that? About half my bitchsuit art is western and the other half is eastern. /aco/ is full of vanilla shit and threads are more about characters from specific series than specific fetishes. It doesn't seem appropriate to post my western bitchsuit art there.

What the fuck 4chan. I need a place to post my western art of women turning into dildos and sexy jetplanes.
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>>6478262
>my point is it's already in fucking /d/, you clown
no?
I just saw a loli thread get deleted like 10 minutes ago, loli is still not allowed on /d/
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>>6478293
did you even look in the thread I linked?

there's very clear toddlercon in there
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>>6478295
go read the rules
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>>6478297
oh, right, this rule

>toddlercon is fine as long as there is some transformative element involved :^)
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>>6478295
age regression is different than just flat-out loli threads
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>>6478289
>This also isn't a /vr/ situation where it provides a previously missing space to discuss a particular topic. This new board adds nothing but subtracts from everywhere else even casually related to it. For example, we'll lose /d/rawfriends, Dmitrys, InCase, several fetishes almost entirely, and what do we get in return? It's not an increase in quality, it's a decrease in activity and diversity, meaning we'll return to the days when the board is 85% futa, endless reposting of the same old shit, with the rare bump of new content in August and December. Nothing is improving with this decision for anybody, except for lewdfags in the /co/ drawthreads maybe.

this is probably the most clear and consise description of the problem that I've seen, good job friend
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>>6478301
good luck explaining that to the FBI, pedo
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>>6478247
>No /disco/
Why even bother?
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>>6478289
>It's not an increase in quality
It is. Now fuck off to your containment board, westernfag, because you were never welcome here to begin with.
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>>6478267
>and raw amount produced has no correlation with quality
So why did you bring up the size of the market at all to begin with?

>not all eastern artists draw for money but a majority sure do with at least some of their work
I wasn't disputing that. I was trying to get you to see that this place has been very welcoming to burgeoning artists with different styles and that is all down the drain if this rule starts getting enforced. Eastern artists don't show up here to fulfill silly requests for actual OC.

>>6478289
I mean, I understand the people who only want one style around here, but I don't think they get that if this shit gets taken seriously they aren't going to win either for all the reasons you said.
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>>6478301
And at the end of it all, what are you tugging your swollen red dong to? A kid 9 times out of 10.
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>>6478308
>So why did you bring up the size of the market at all to begin with?

because I was never referring to the size of the market in terms of manpower, you dolt. "size of the market" usually refers to money
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тЖР ohnoes totally western wat do ?
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>>6478313
what

is this supposed to be a post because shindol was born in new york or something
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>>6478307
>I want my glorious nippon board and I don't care if I have to alienate all the OC producing /d/rawfags, ban half the content and kill the community to do it!
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>>6477662
Westaboos can fuck off.
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>>6478310
>>6478305
hey I didn't say that I enjoy either
I'm just saying that most of the time there isn't fucking involved, it's just the tf element
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>>6478311
Again, that has no bearing on quality either.
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>>6478321
yes it does
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>new porn board for western shit.
>still no furry board

I think the worst part is knowing it's solely because of those 10 assholes that would samefag /qa/ and /b/ to the appocalypse trying get the board deleted
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>>6478164
Delete system 32 sell your pc to someone with one less chromosome and then kill yourself.
Good lord you're obscenely stupid.
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>>6478307

Explain how, then.
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>>6478319
>but chris hansen
>I never put my penis in her so it's okay :^)

good stuff
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>>6478307
>>6478317
>My 2d women with penises need to be EXCLUSIVELY drawn by superior eastern craftsman instead of pig dog firfy ganjiin.
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>>6478330
It'd be fine if the majority of westernshit wasn't pure garbage.

I would never want to live in Japan and I think Japan sucks in a lot of ways, but they definitely make more appealing drawings.
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keep all the westernshit on /d/, but purge it from futa threads

there, solved
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>>6478323
No it doesn't. You could easily say the opposite, that someone doing something for the passion of it will produce something better than someone shilling for cash. Or you could just compare an amateur to a professional artist capable of getting their shit sold.

It has no bearing because either scenario is equally possible in any number of places with any number of people.
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Finally, no more weeaboos complaining about western art!
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>>6478335
>My opinion is fact.

It's almost like some people prefer different styles to others. Strange...
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>>6478335
>but they definitely make more appealing drawings

A drawing style is easily adopted.
In example, current Japanese art style derives from Disney.
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>>6478342
>produce something better than someone shilling for cash

except "shilling for cash" is the quality of the product
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>>6478341
>solved
How? There's a shit load of western futa.
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>>6478315

Yep. Is it western because it's drawn by a western artist, or eastern because he lives in Japan and draws it for Comiket?

Also, >Implying Dmitrys threads will be gone
because
>Implying Russia isn't eastern/in Asia
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>>6478349
So, as long as someone gibs money is good.
Got it.
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>>6478351
There's also a shit load of eastern futa and the health of futa threads does not depend on western contribution

>>6478354
well, yes. that is typically the case
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>>6478349
Not at all. If people are willing to pay for shit (and they are, don't kid yourself) then that cash means fuck all as far as quality control goes.
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>>6478348
It's derived from but still noticeably different from Disney. It's usually pointy noses instead of round noses, angular faces instead of circles, and there are two gaps commonly found in the eyelashes. Bodies are generally scaled in a somewhat more realistic manner, whereas the faces are less so.
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>>6478345
And now you can enjoy yours on another board.
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>>6478357
>then that cash means fuck all as far as quality control goes

literally only applies if their desire to spend encompasses literally everything in the market
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>>6478316
>>6478326
Shitty western art alienates everyone with any standards whatsoever, ensuring that any community allowing them will be filled with mouthbreathing retards who shit up discussions in all kinds of ways.
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>>6478353
Dmitrys style has gotten more and more western over the years and he lives in Australia. Sorry to shit on your pancakes there.

>>6478355
>the health of futa threads does not depend on western contribution
And why does that even matter? Your solution is fucking stupid. "You can post western in these threads, but not these."
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>>6478364

And you look exclusively at Eastern art, then?

It produces the same thing, then.
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>>6478353
So.
Why can't someone using that style post here, just because they don't live on the other side of an ocean.
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>>6478365
>And why does that even matter?

because western is shit, but it does have importance in keeping some shitty fetishes alive
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>>6478364
Fucking this. I've seen so much stupid fucking artist drama and DA garbage posted here it's a fucking nightmare when a thread happens to get one of those idiots in it posting nothing but middle school tier artwork.

I'm glad this is happening. There's plenty of fucking terrible eastern artists on pixiv, but at least people had the courtesy to not post that shit.
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>>6478364
Opinions =/= facts m8
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>>6478371
your opinion is factually shit

scientifically proven
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>>6478342
Why not just look at the board for 5 minutes and see that the majority of western art is total shit? Western pro artists don't draw /d/ material simple as that.
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Looking at /aco/ right now there is one symbiote thread and people are shitting themselves because some of the art in it isn't up to whatever undefined "quality" standards the board has or lacks proper artist attribution.

Does this kill the drawfriends? Is symbiotes seriously the most pervy thing you can post western art of on 4chan? I don't see how this new board adds anything for /d/. It's just purging half the board (the productive and interesting half no less) so that futafags can have their own private wank sanctum.
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>>6478373
no comback.
Strawmanning
Ad hominem

Confirmed /b/tard should leave
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So tumblr is lashing out because someone is finally calling them out on quality assurance on /d/?
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>>6478376
>the productive and interesting half no less

interestingly shit maybe kek
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>>6478369
Haha, no. You don't get to have it both ways faggot. Either you ban it all or don't.

This whole, "I want to be an elitist prick, but I realize I'll kill what I'm trying to control in the process so I'll pretend to make a compromise," shit is transparent.
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>>6478378
just fuckin with you m8
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This wouldn't have happened if you all had some kind of quality standard for your fetishes instead of posting whatever Deviantart crap you can find just to desperately keep threads alive.
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>>6478385
Oh sorry, I'm just obviously mad right now.
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>>6478379
I have never gone to tumblr
nice strawman
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>>6477662
I think the alternative fetishes trumps regional origin for /d/. I don't think the /co/ and /u/ crowd migrating to /aco/ is going to be into futanari sounding and diaper fetishes.
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>>6478381
no honestly I don't give a shit if those board ends up dead

but if people are going to bitch 24/7 you might as well give them a compromise
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>>6478371
"I like western"=Opinion

"The western art style is made to look silly or to make muscular men in tights look cool, while the Japanese art style has evolved in a different direction since the 80s to emphasize cuteness and sexual attractiveness through an idealized look based on neoteny"=Fact
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>>6478379
What is it with weaboos and pretending their opinions are facts? You're doing a fantastic impression of Anita Sarkeesian.
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FUCK OFF WESTABOOS
JAPANESE ART IS BETTER AND WILL ALWAYS BE BETTER
ACCEPT IT GAIJIN
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>>6478394
See, I can't argue against this.
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wait what about the hypno threads ? not saying everything was high quality, but the only ok quality eastern stuff is what, the unfinished mc school series from mizuryu and arguably monmon's dinarangers ?

fuck me...
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>>6478391
They're just going to have to learn to like it, then. Those fetishes are pretty tame by /d/ standards, too.
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>>6478398
>ACCEPT IT GAIJIN
Said in english by the gaijin.
Could have at least put it in haiku
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>>6478394
The latter part is fact.

This >>6478364 is not.
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>>6478370

Except now that people will be hurting for content, that WILL start being posted, ad we're in the same old situation except without any of the good western stuff.
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>>6478364
Sorry. Forgot there's not objectively shit eastern art. Ridiculous.
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all I'm hearing from this is that 4chan is trying to make a penal colony disguised as a board.
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How long until they activate flags on this board and ban anybody with a non-eastern flag? We can't have western discussion on our eastern board.

OH FUCK I'M TALKING ENGLISH PS NO BAN
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>>6478419
soon all boards will be condensed into /jp/

and the golden age of 4chan will begin
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>>>/aco/8104

Ayy lmao
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>>6478413
There's plenty. It doesn't get posted though.>>6478413
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>>6478409
The Japanese art style evolved to look sexually appealing (as well as cute at the same time. This aesthetic came to be known as moe), so by default, that makes anyone who's turned on by the western art style that's not made for being sexy a complete bottom scraper who's often too dumb to search out quality material for themselves.

They're the kind of people who constantly post "sauce?" instead of reverse searching, talk with emoticons, and generally behave like they're crossboarders or underage. As the rules say, the quality of posts is very important, and so those people aren't welcome here.
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Have fun waiting for Japanese drawfags to fill your requests, then.

>>6477895
>Western art is against the rules on /d/

A rule that was never enforced by the mods and only ever served as an excuse for people to bitch and moan. It carries as much weight as the global rule against "uncalled for catchphrases".
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>>6478394
So JJBA is designed to emphasize cuteness and neoteny? Wow. Learn something new every day. Must be weird having an entire country draw with a single unified style. Certainly no room for anyone to draw something in a way they see fit. But remember, what's important is that it comes from the land of the rising sun.

Or maybe you're just fucking retarded.
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>>6478439
>art style that's not made for being sexy a complete bottom scraper who's often too dumb to search out quality material for themselves.

>implying the origin of something is its definitive end.
>implying the context of human intelligence is decided by whether or not they know the source of something.
>implying there is no shitty eastern art.
There is no point with you.
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>>6478419
уГауГДуВжуВ╗уГЛуГГуГЭуГ│уГмуГГуГЖуГмуВ╣
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Yeah.....nice try
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>>6478449
>a series that takes place outside of Japan most of the time, has characters named after western bands and focuses a lot on how exotic other countries such as Italy and Egypt are
Yeah, totally not cherrypicked!
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>>6478459
Looks like ur monitur is broken frend xD
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>>6478462
Context within a work doesn't change who is making it.
Everyone here is cherrypicking shit.
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>>6478405
Futa maybe, but not diapers. I think most people on /d are not interested in poop.
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>>6478449
not him but

is there a single girl in JJBA that isn't qt as fuck?
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>>6478476
That one you just posted?
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>>6478474
Last time I checked, diapers are underwear, not something that comes out of your rear.
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>>6478479
ayy no love for foreheads?
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>>6477662

Behold, the Faustian pact of pornography:

You loved it in the beginning. The thrill, the exotic novelty, the pleasure, you couldn't get enough of it; fuck the haters, the normalfags, the moralfags, the culture. You were a prisoner of society, and now you're free, and it's so wonderful, you couldn't imagine why anyone could ever think it was wrong. How could it be wrong if it felt so right?

Like a drug addict, you keep searching for more and more powerful stuff - futa, vore, diaper, animals, children, the kinkier, the better. Eventually, you reach the bottom of the well of porn, and even the most powerful stuff doesn't do it for you anymore.

One day, you will wake up and realize that you don't find almost anything arousing anymore; Nothing real, nothing fictitious and nothing in between. By substituting the truth with lies, you have found that the truth is no longer good enough - exciting enough, exotic enough - for you. And now, you are left with nothing. And you have no one to blame but yourself.
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>>6478476
Code Lyoko belongs on /aco/.
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>>6478480
Now that was quite the clever comeback. What do you think people associate diapers to? Do you deny that scat-fetishism is big among those people? I'm not judging, I'm just saying it's not mainstream even on /d.
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>>6478462
>Assertion is made
>Counter example is provided
>"Cherrypicking!"
Is this where logic goes to die?
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>>6478481
Nope, but if you wanted to post it I wouldn't want to stop you, and tell you to put it on another board.
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>>6478484
Is this how /d/eviants rationalize not having a girlfriend? I agree with what you're saying to a certain point, but there's a clear difference between reality and porn. Most people who search for extreme porn does it because they're unsatisfied in real life. Either because they can't live out specific kinks with real people or because they for some reason can't find a partner. The latter category of people is why you have people who wants brutal rape and impregnation manga/anime end with love.
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>>6478493
foreheads drawn by a japanese man is a quality /d/ topic
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>consumers of pornography have become so warped that they actually think anime is "good"
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>>6478451
Yeah, because moot has never trolled people before.

You useless meme loving fuck.
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>>6478494
>Most people who search for extreme porn does it because they're unsatisfied in real life.
I can confirm, my life is shit and I only go here for my porn.
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>>6478484
Nah, don't worry anon, it's not that bad. Weaning yourself off your endogenous drugs happens surprisingly quickly.

After you find everything boring, just run on empty a few weeks/couple months and you'll get a boner on glimpsing your dusty old vanilla stuff.
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>>6477895
>post a /d/ related thread on /aco/
>it is deleted instantly
Well good going you shitbag.
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>>6478500
Have you ever tried erping anon? Sometimes it's nice to share in a sexual fantasy with someone, and despite what you might think it's not only weird fat men doing it.
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>>6477684
you are diluted as fuck if you don't think the majority of d is normies with fetishes that are almost always more complemented by western art why cant you fags just take what you like instead of throwing a bitchfit

Posts like >>6478082 just show how much the moderation is out of touch with this board, if you went here for one day you would know it's dumb as fuck to enforce some pointless rule.
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>>6478498
anime is shit but it sure tingles my dingle
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>>6478487
>Do you deny that scat-fetishism is big among those people?
It actually isn't all that popular with them. Most diaper fetishists find scat just as disgusting as anyone else. Peeing is a bit more popular, but to many, diaper fetishism is just like any other underwear fetish - enjoyed for things such as their visual appeal, tactile sensation or the feeling of humiliation.
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>>6478508
Welp, if the no western is enforced anywhere near 'slightly', guess i'll take another 10 year break off of here since 104% of everything will be repost
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>>6477924
Considering that it's a brand new board. I'm pretty sure /d/ is the main audience for it.

I doubt they have much trouble with western art in the traditional hentai boards.
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>>6478510
I've erpd once or twice, there was a thread a while back that people just started sharing emails.
And it was pretty good.
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>>6478233
>>6478106
Faggot here, same with /y/.

RIP one stop lewd shops
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>>6478516
This so much, I hate scat and piss. I just like them for the domination and humiliation.
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>>6478517
>implying everything wasn't already reposts

but now the reposts will be superior nipponese art

>>6478519
the main audience of /aco/ is /co/, not /d/
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>>6478519
Go there and have a look. Several thousand posts from people who want nothing to do with /d
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>>6478519
The problem came out of the fact that /co/ has been wanting a lewd board for drawfags and such for ages.
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>>6478494

I'm not actually from /d/. Someone linked /mlp/ to /aco/, which led here.

You remind me of the people on our board who complain about not having a "community" where they can "discuss" what they jerk off to. Good God, just come to /d/ and see what a community built around porn looks like.
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>>6478524
I hid everything that was repost. The drawthreads were awesome. One every 2 months the humor thread had some new funnies in it.

The MC threads had some western artists putting out their latest works.

Now you're expected to 24/7 /aco, since it's way too high-trafic to retain any thread for more than a few hours. Fuck that.
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>>6477895
>>and fan drawn fanart
by this definition all of /d/ is an infraction. nobodys going to follow that stupid rule you retard
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>>6478530
And why is that exactly? My point was that the vast majority of the extreme porn lovers would get a heart attack if a real girl touched them. But then again, that's true for most people who like ponies.
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Going to /aco/, the threads are almost exclusively normal vanilla heterosexual porn. There's a trap thread with like five posts in it, and the op is complaining that mods deleted the other trap thread.

I'm sensing some kind of failure to communicate here. The mod here says that western /d/ content is now banned, but there clearly isn't a home for it on /aco/ either. This is bullshit either way, stop fucking with the best porn board.
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>>6478530

>I'm not actually from /d/
>come to /d/ and see what a community built around porn looks like
>ITS ALL MANCHILDREN

You'd know that's not even remotely true if you'd have been on this board for longer than 5 minutes and in more than just this thread.
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>>6478545
nobody should obey that order. because the mods would have to be retarded to enforce it. it comes off more like they want the option to ban anyone they like because tons of content is against rule 3. stuff i doubt they even realize is western. 4chan mods have always been awfull, just look at the one on /tg/ that got banned and lost his position for shitposting. that mod was literally the worst example of modding, constantly banning and deleting content that did not even break any rules.

I wouldn't be surprised if purple up there is of the same mind set, changing what they personally don't like about a board rather than doing something thats in the communties best interest.
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>>6478524
>the main audience of /aco/ is /co/, not /d/

Yet a sizable portion of /d/ will be forced to /aco/, meaning it'll basically become /d/2 when the /co/mrades and /u/nicorns can't handle the extreme stuff (which won't be seperated by thread as it is here, but instead mixed in among everything else) and leave, basically leaving us with a fractured board community for no real reason.

Though the month or so where /d/ and /u/ users try to co-exist on one board will be pretty comical, I guess.
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>>6478545
>/d/
>best porn board

had a giggle
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>>6478530
>Projecting this hard
>>>/mlp/
Every board has sad loners, but /d/ probably gets more action than your average 4chan board if things like the bdsmg are any indication.
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>>6478562
>when the /co/mrades and /u/nicorns can't handle the extreme stuff
except everything is getting deleted right now, so not much to handle
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/d/ has been fine for years. Why is this happening.
/d/ is the one board that had a decent, civilized community that didn't get overly hung up on segregations.

So much for a one stop shop of good porn. 60% of the fetish will be gone without another board to turn to.

If one was going to segregate the boards based on country of origin (which at this point has almost become indifferential) they should have atleast created a western alternative board.

We'll have to wait and see, but this feels like a really bad move to me.
/d/ should just ignore this and carry on as usual, try to sustain itself.

It had equilibrium, I hope the 12 people who wanted this are happy.
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>>6478579
So what happens if mods start deleting content from /d/? Do we need an alternative /aco/ as well?
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>>6478579

Then the /d/ segment that's being kicked off here have nowhere to go and we end up with a fractured board community for no real reason AND those people are plain fucked.

As-is this is just a clusterfuck to help nobody.
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>>6478584
yes
either that or keep /d/ the same
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/co/ is the worst non-containment board.
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>>6478587
thats obviously intentional. because mods are not there to help you, they are there to power trip, and d3 is nothing but a rule for mods to furiously masturbate over how owned people they don't like are after banning them. it litterally makes no sense and isn't intended to do anything healthy to the board.
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>>6477895
You dun fucked up.
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>>6478579
Yeah. The mod comes into here and demands we post western content in /aco/ and then goes to /aco/ and deletes it. This is fucked up.
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>>6478611
It's a purge. They're hunting us down. kek
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>>6478611
Well that mod is the worst mod on 4chan and it's been known for years.

I'm shocked Moot didn't sack him as he's publicly banned him before on /sp/
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>>6478611
More than likely two different mods.
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>>6477895
This isn't going to work.
I know you aren't going to listen to some random anon, but seriously /aco/ should just be a merger of the other hentai boards (/h/ + /y/ particularly) but for western stuff.
/d/ is kind of it's own ballgame, we don't really care much about the style, it's more the freaky shit.
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>>6478619
>>6478621
mods are shit heads and like most people, dont like threats to their power, so odds are moot didnt sack them because all that would happen is they would be added back once moot left. either that or he didn't give a fuck. Moot pretty much white washes his own words since hes in the spotlight. he cant afford to publicly be the asshat he really is, just like most people. that doesn't make him especially bad, but given 4chans history it would be foolish to think hes above hunting down people he doesn't like and forcing his dick of modship down their throats.
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>>6478626
>we
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>>6478626
I'd disagree with even merging /y/ into it. There isn't any homosexual material on /aco/ right now, it's absolutely flooded with pinups and vanilla heterosexual porn. Any /y/ content would just get buried because /y/ is a fairly slow board (or the threads would be deleted as is happening to every /d/ thread there)

/aco/ should literally just be western vanilla porn. That's it.
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Let's settle this

http://strawpoll.me/5629421
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>>6478645
Sorry for speaking on behalf of the entire board, but I'm pretty sure most of us will side with western right now so the board doesn't fall apart.
Content will be seriously cut for the less seen fetishes, since /d/ stuff doesn't seem to be taken well on /aco/. The only things left will be the bog standard stuff like futa and vore.

>>6478654
Good point, I mentioned /y/ because when I was looking through the board earlier I saw quite a number of gay threads, but it would probably get outnumbered in the long run.
Much like how we can't have furry allowed on /aco/ (or any NSFW board other than /b/) because it would get completely over run by furfag content.
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>>6478661
>a thread with exclusively whiners in it
>implying this wont be one sided as hell
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>>6478661
>no captcha
Nothing will be settled
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>>6478664

Make a new thread and post the poll in the OP so everyone can see then faggot.
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>>6478662
I check the catalog not long ago and couldn't find any homo threads. It's possible they were deleted or slid off.
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>>6478661
>no ALIENS caption
one job, tsoukenjios
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>>6478530
Okay. Pretend MLP isn't a community of fucks like you that not so secretly wanna bang cartoon ponies. It's the same thing. Built around porn.
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>>6477684

DIAF weeaboo. "Western Art" was just weeaboo speak for "poorly drawn", not art drawn by westerners.

God you autistic shits and your need to categorize everything in the world. You obsessive shits ruin everything you touch.
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would prefer a quality restriction over a style restriction

some of the porn on this board belongs in a guro thread it's so offensive to my eyes
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>>6478694

This, but thhen I don;t know how one would be implimented without also being abused.
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>>6478691
The damage is done regardless of whether or not this rule gets enforced now. The weebs have bubbled up from their cesspits and it took years for most of them to shut the fuck up before.

But hey, I guess making sure everything on the board matches your own selfish tastes is more important than the artists, the community, entire fetishes and other posters tastes.
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You know those posts from people getting in weird as fuck /d threads saying how they're surprised how cool this place is ?

Literally can't read a single alternative thread in /aco without morons shitting it up with passive-aggro bullshit.
Is this really it ?
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>>6478675
>>>/aco/47
lel

But it was a while back when I checked, before the board was properly announced.
Probably meant the content was more balanced.
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>>6478694
Unfortunately art is entirely subjective theres too much grey area.
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>>6478708
Idunno, I'm giving them a chance to realize that this is fucking stupid and not enforce it. If they do I'm out because this place was getting stale anyway.
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>>6478714
let the mods sort it out

if a mod is shit we complain to hiroshima
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>>6478711
Ahh, I didn't notice that thread. Apologies.
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>>6478691
When it comes to fetish content the two are usually one and the same.
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>>6478724
There was a lot more, that is basically a joke thread that I wasn't even intending to use as an example.
You're probably right that /y/ material would get flooded out on /aco/.
They might be able to have a dedicated general or two, but it'll be fairly shit for them.
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>>6478717
And then when he doesn't listen to some random anons?
Not to sound like an ass but he doesn't have any real reason to care.
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>>6478717
we cant complain to hiroshima. theres litterally no way to contact him as 4chan phased out emailing. the mods have it set up so they are the sole arbiter after the executive power (moot) left. and unless he gets wise and drops an email address its not going to change anything.
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>>6478702
it wouldnt work because art is inherently subjective, thats why this decision is obviously a purge.
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>>6478731
>>6478732
then why are you complaining in this thread if it does nothing?
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>>6478740
Because we want to discuss the issue with other anons?
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>>6478737

We should pre-emptively purge eastern art before people post low-quality images from Japanese artists.
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>>6478740
to encourage people to think this is a problem and get angry about it, because the only chance we have is seeming like more of a hassle than we're worth.
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>>6478742
doesn't explain the amount of people directly quoting the mod
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>You were alive to see the day that Hiroshima Nagasaki destroyed and scattered the fetish tower of /d/abble, something that even a decade of dickgirls couldn't do
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I don't know why anyone cares

not like /d/ has mods anyway
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And now half the threads are degenerating into "IS THIS /ACO OR /H"

this split is shooting itself in the dick
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We should have had a /his/ board.
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AHAHAHHAHAH

/d/ literally died, there are almost no new threads here.
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>>6478929
good, let it die.

this way nippon loving gaijins can post a picture here once every 2 days.
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>>6478929
/d/ wasn't built in a day, but it was destroyed in less than a fraction of one. Rip in pepperoni.
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>>6477895
Good job on creating a lot of uncertainty about how things are going to be handled in the future, without reason or follow-up.
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>>6478929
there's been like 8 new threads since this thread was made
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>>6477662
inb4 /aco/ gets exactly zero traffic after a month or less. its literally that rule 34 site, except with a 4chan layout, and since theres not nearly enough alternative stuff there, everyones going to be returning with their western art

sorry, you bunch of weeaboo faggots, its not going to work. Also, way to make a new hentai board and it isnt futa. chinkmoot is no better than the old one
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>>6478991
>chinkmoot
I prefer hiroshimoot
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>>6478991

Nobody here wanted western art gone besides a few trolls.
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>>6479012
I recommend photoshopping moon runes on abdl art to appease.

god damn autistics won
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>>6479021

Nobody's won yet, brother. This battle's just beginning.
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Just make /aco/ vanilla cartoon shit and leave /d/ as is.

Rule 3 has never been followed here and there's not much content overlap between the boards as long as you're not enforcing it.
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>>6479036
this
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>>6477895
MODS = GODS
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>>6477992
Yes please I would enjoy this.
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>>6477895
Change the rules so that western art is fine on hentai boards, but allow OPs to specify that western isn't on-topic. Enforce this. Bam. Now you don't need a new board and you don't have fetishes on /d/ having no home because there's little to no Japanese content and the people on /aco/ can't stand it.
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>>6479105
or just ban every eastern only person complaining all the time and ruining everything

bam. easy
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>>6479105
>western art is fine on hentai boards
Do you not understand what hentai is?

>>6479112
Typical westernfag can't capatalize his sentences.
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>>6479117
The Japanese word for porn. If someone Japanese were to chose a word for porn comics, it would be that one.
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This Eastern/Western divide doesn't quench my autism. I want to know whether my fapping material comes from Continental Europe, Great Britain and former Commonwealth nations, Northern Africa, Sub-Sahara Africa, the Middle East, North America or South America. It is hugely important to me and I will not be ignored. I will not stand for unknowingly fapping to Continental European dickgirls!
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Hey mods once you begin the great purge can you get rid of the general threads too? The amount of offtopic and /soc/ in those threads are cancerous as fuck.

>>6479120
Specifically Japanese porn comics, not hideous western shit.
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>>6479130
>The amount of offtopic and /soc/ in those threads are cancerous as fuck.
By that logic shut the fuck up cancerous /soc/ trash.
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>>6479117
>capatalize

Nice one, nippon freak.
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>>6479117
Filthy selfhating jew gaijin should seppuku
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>>6478511
>diluted
pppfffft!

>out of touch
4chan's not a democracy.
This has been a long time coming.
Drinking your tears.
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>>6479135
>>6479140
Just let them enjoy their grorious 100% japanesu booru. This board is dying post wise.

Meanwhile /aco/ is growing like hell
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>>6479151
The no western on /d/ rule is not new and has been enforced strictly in the past.
If you don't remember when it was enforced strictly you have not been on /d/ very long.

Maybe a year or two at most.
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You all must be upset to find that your tumblr drawings aren't allowed, but I assure you once the shift is made /d/ will return to being a hentai/alternative imageboard and the new board will contain the western art. This will be better for both boards.

>>6479133
?
I don't come to /d/ for relationship advice, take it elsewhere chad.

>>6479135
Yes a typo, you got me.

>>6479140
Don't forget to punctuate too.
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>>6479151
>Meanwhile /aco/ is growing like hell

The fresh board craze is in no way representative of how things will look in a month.
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>>6479151
they'll probably get a new picture post every 8 hours or something after western art posts go away.
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>>6477926
THE RULE IS NOT NEW.
ENFORCEMENT OF THE RULE IS NOT NEW.
YOU ARE.
STOP CALLING THINGS REDDIT THAT HAVE BEEN IN PLACE SINCE FUCKING THE SITE HAS BEEN MADE.
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>>6479159
yes, i don't capitalize sentences on an online board. excuse me, sir. you sure got me
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>>6479164
I'm fine with a slow /d/ that has no western.
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>>6479159
>This will be better for both boards.
>two dead boards instead of one slow board
Wooow.
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>>6479166
>ENFORCEMENT OF THE RULE IS NOT NEW.
yeah it is
I've been here for 3 years and I've only seen a couple posts deleted for being western, and I'm pretty sure those were just deleted by the owners
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>>6479170
that's because you are retarded
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>>6479151
/d/ has existed before western content was allowed here and it thrived just fine without western just a very short few years ago.

I see a LOT of posts on this board (majority of them) that are NOT western.

You are whining about nothing.
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>>6479164
That's not the main thing really

it's just that /a/utists don't realize that a large majority of /d/ users also like western porn. People post both western and eastern, and sometimes they will get banned for doing that.

Now that people finally found a board where they can post without getting banned, this place is doomed.
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>>6479174
Wow 3 whole years?

Impressive!
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>>6479180
Yeah now that people can post something in another place they will never post other things in other boards.
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>>6479169
Low quality posts are against the rules, while hard to enforce it is one of the defining factors that make 4chan different in comparison to other forums across the internet.

>>6479172
Quality correlates negatively with board speed. You would know this if you ever watched moot's QA sessions.
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>>6479176
Or I've been here back when /d/ enforced no western and saw that it was FINE.

Your short presence here does not represent all of /d/.
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>>6479180
>without western, /d/ is doomed!
except you've never been here and seen /d/ with western being forbidden. you're new, so I'll forgive your ignorance.

In point of fact:
/d/ has existed for a long time before you started browsing.
Most of the people complaining are NEW to this board.

Right now there are VERY FEW western posts on /d/. These posts do NOT make up the majority of the board or even half.
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>>6479184
oh I apoligize greatly oh mighty /d/ elder
Im sorry I've only spend 3 years on a fucking porn board
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>>6479197
Following this chain of comments:
>The enforcement of this rule is not new
>Yeah it is, I've been here a short time and I don't remember it!
>You've been here a short time and I've been here longer and I've seen it enforced a lot and the board has never had problems with it enforced
>WELL EXCUSE ME FOR NOT SPENDING A LOT OF TIME ON A FUCKING PORN BOARD!
Stop being indignant that you are new and just accept that there are people who know more about the subject than you.
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>>6479188
western isnt the same as low quality
ive seen some shitty eastern artwork

besides, i enjoy art from both 'sides'. only the freaks try to limit it because their tastes are too obsessive.

>>6479190
good for you

ive been here for years and never seen them enforce anything.

everything was FINE.

your presence definitely doesnt present everyone, obviously. you gladly shut out an entire group of people, which ironically also enjoy eastern art, just because you like to be control freaks instead of letting people have fun.

you really are the reason why abdl threads had so many arguments. granted, some were other than this but a huge portion was prissy cunts like you whining all the time. limiting things and limiting everyones enjoyment.

no fun allowed cunts
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>>6479209

>ive been here for years and never seen them enforce anything.
Then you haven't been here that long.
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>>6479203
if you haven't noticed, many other times in the thread people have mentioned that the western rule hasn't been followed in a long time. Bringing up that they followed it several years ago is less relevant to how /d/ operates nowadays than how it has been operating for the last several years
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>>6479216
>>durrr
read the actual rule you fucking moron
the rule is anything drawn by someone outside east asia doesnt belong on /d/, period. in other words half of /d/ is against the rules
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>>6479203
>implying that people more anal when west wasn't banned didn't leave
>implying they'll come back
4reddit is obsolete, keep fucking a corpse.
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>>6479203
>>durrr
this rule isnt enforced you fucking moron. if it was half the board would be gone as most of japan doesnt cater to our crazy fetishes.
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>>6479216
i never visited /d/ years back but i am definitely not new to 4 chan.

i don't give a shit how long you have been here. you are entirely incapable of reason and must resort to claiming some superior hierarchy.

like i have said. there was a community element to these boards and for years no one cared. no one enforced anything because everything was fine. but because you didn't want to use your scrolls button on your mouse, you had to make it so that everyone has to adhere to your likes and dislikes.

its like having a club that started with certain rules but evolved over time to include other things as well. Everyone is ok with it. even happy with it. then the purists come in and crash the club ending up ruining things for people that don't give a shit about your purist nonsense.
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>>6479196
>>right now there are very few western posts on /d/
you may as well have said "please rape my face I am too stupid to breath" instead.
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>>6479216
>>6479209
The mods have posted and stickied threads for long periods of time.

>>6479217
I told you that the enforcement of the rule isn't new.
Now you're deflecting.
This however is moot since whether or not something is different doesn't mean you can ASSUME.

EG:
If you _see_ less enforcement of the rules you can't assume something has changed from the mods. In any case,

However, the reason mods haven't enforced the rule is because it got few reports and 4chan has been getting a lot of reports; If you're not aware of how the report system works (and I'm sure you don't, you're new here,) there's a "queue" or, list. Posts with fewer reports are _always_ at the bottom, and because of that, they RARELY get attended to by moderators or admin staff unless they have a lot of reports. The reason the rule went under moderated was not due to the moderators choosing not to. But was because they were unaware.

>>6479232
The rule refers to style or artist/origin.
eastern styled/anime/hentai is permissible.

>>6479246
What a shitty argument that needs no addressing. Yet I did just above.
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>>6479234
/d/ was fine when no western was enforced.
Before you were here.
What's the problem?
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>>6479209
I wasn't commenting upon the quality of artwork , I was commenting on the quality of posts, and how that relates to complaints about board speed. Learn to read.
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>>6479249
>>The rule refers to style or artist/origin.
>>Durrr deres no contradiction here!
you sound like a retarded prosecuter from the PW series. /d/ is litterally filled to the armpits with western in origin artists. your claim that there is a small number of them is fucking bogus. some threads have more western in origin art than not. furthermore the only way someone would ever be able to tell is to know who drew the image in the first place.
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/aco/ has been removing xeno threads for not being human enough. If no western is enforced here, xeno will be confined to /b/
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>>6479269

>you sound like a retarded prosecuter from the PW series. /d/ is litterally filled to the armpits with western in origin artists
This is fine. As long as the style is anime/hentai style.

/d/ has had no problem enforcing this rule in the past. Do you know why? Because you can look at something and tell if it's "hentai" styled or not.

The two are NOT mutually exclusive.
You can have a western artist draw in a hentai/anime/eastern style.

How is that hard to understand? You seem to think this is persecution based on where an artist is from. This is a complete misconception and error.
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>>6479272
>/d/ has to allow everything that's alternative!
No, it doesn't.
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>>6479288
Fuck off. The status quo works fine. Stop being so autistic and just fap.
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>>6479272
Alright. It sounds like we need to complain to Mootwo that with enforcement of the no Western rule and /aco/ not allowing non-human stuff that there's no longer a home for our weird fetish material. Either /aco/ gets more lenient or the Western rule gets bent.
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>>6479295
>Fuck off. The status quo works fine
Which is why we should return to it and enforce no western.
:)
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>>6479249
>he mods have posted and stickied threads for long periods of time.

we know. what we are saying is that it wasnt enforced because it wasn't a big deal.

that post you post is from 2008.
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>>6479285
>>thats fine as long as the style
No, it fucking isn't.
pay the fuck attention to the current system of rules and what mods are saying. it says fan art. the aco thread says its for both western style, or western in origin.
ORIGIN

in other words style doesn't count. if its drawn by someone outside of east asia, it belongs on aco
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>>6479300
And I remember when it was enforced.
It wasn't a problem when it wasn't enforced.

>>6479301
I know the rule inside and out.
I've been here with the rule enforced longer than you. This is where I know the rule better than you and how it's been enforced better than you.

I've seen how it's enforced. You haven't.
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>>6479299
>return to status quo
I do not think it means what you think it means.

>>6479306
We've seen how it's not enforced.
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>>6479258
We developed a certain context in those replies so I thought you were referring to art.

Besides, lots of people post low quality posts. It's about content anyway, not about whether or not you capitalize i's

4chan is the least place to say we have a quality standard, sheesh.
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>>6479297
>that with enforcement of the no Western rule and /aco/ not allowing non-human stuff that there's no longer a home for our weird fetish material.
So?
There's no home for furry either aside from /b/.
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>>6479310
>return to status quo
>I do not think it means what you think it means.
Status quo is relative.
For me, no western on /d/ is status quo.

Even more poignant:

>Fuck off. The status quo works fine
Then why change it from
"no western on /d/"
to,
"ok let's let western on now"
Because no western on /d/ was the status quo.
And then it got changed. Why was the status quo on /d/ changed if it was just fine?
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>>6479313
No one likes furries, but you have to be an autistic weeaboo to hate all western porn.
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>>6479295
>I'm gonna keep breaking the rules and insult anon while I'm at it because that will definitely prove my point!

>>6479297
Or send it off to /b/. Not everything belongs to a board on 4chan.

>>6479310
Correct me if I'm wrong but anon is saying the status quo should be one that follows the rules. As in the original status of the board.
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>>6479306
exactly, it wasn't a problem when it wasnt enforced

so... umm.. yeah

admit it, you're just a stickler for details. are you judge judies son or something?
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>>6479320
>>6479318
Status quo means how it is right now, which is non-enforcement, you mongoloids.
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>>6479330
this.

the status quo was actually non-enforcement.

seems simple to me.
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>>6479323
>exactly, it wasn't a problem when it wasnt enforced
I disagree.
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>>6479318
Because it turns out that the vast majority of people on /d/ who enjoy and post Eastern alternative hentai don't actually care about whether their fetishes are drawn in Japanese style?

And it turns out the mods didn't even really care either?

The thing about pointless rules is that things only get better when you ignore them.
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>>6479337
>>6479330
But why did the status quo of enforcement need to be changed if it was fine?

>>6479323
Oh sorry, that was a typo.

It wasn't a problem when it WAS enforced.
That's what I mean to say.
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>>6479344
>And it turns out the mods didn't even really care either?
This isn't true.
Read about how the post report system works.
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>>6479346
You keep using the word "status quo" incorrectly.
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>>6479344
>majority of people
Go look up tyranny by the majority.

>>6479356
At one time the status quo was enforcement.

That is being used correctly.
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>>6479311
>everyone is shitposting so it must be fine!
Do not defend low quality posts on 4chan, if you don't care how idiots type go back to reddit or some underageb& shithole and you can have all the low quality posts and emoticons you want.

>>6479330
A new board has been created and this would be an optimal time to change the rule-breaking status quo by sending your western art elsewhere and making this a hentai board again.
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>>6479306
>>I know de rules
>>things always work as they have before
thats wonderful twinkleshit. its not like we haven't gone through new mods and ownership and kinds of moderation in the past iunno, 3 years or so. are you so fucking up your own ass you litterally think your word on this is law? because news flash, the mods aren't saying what you are. theyre saying different shit. and its in easy to read writing.
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>>6479340
of course you disagree.

i didn't like messy diaper art but i didn't complain and ruin other peoples amusement. as long as it was abdl related i was fine with it.

literally just want to be spiteful.

>>6479346
because a small minority yelled and screamed enough until they got what they want

why did it become the status quo to begin win? because the community was evolving and became more relaxed until every thread was some art purist whining about "western art".

oh, the typo confused me, nm
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>>6479361
The mods are reiterating the same rule that has been in place since /d/ was started.
Verbatim.

And every time it was enforced.
Verbatim.
Verbatim meaning, "word for word."
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>>6479360
did i say that i enjoy low quality? no

at least i dont confuse the way someone types with quality.

a guy that has something profound to say doesn't become less profound just because he has a lisp.
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>>6479371
I know what verbatim means. but do you? because as I've already said, the mods are enforcing based on location not just style. origin. and since according to you they're just reitterating the same fucking ruling, its pretty fucking obvious that origin counts. IE non east asian artists' artwork are banned from being posted on /d/
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>>6479371
Not counting the exception they made for Dmitry, I guess.
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>>6479366
>because a small minority yelled and screamed enough until they got what they want
I did nothing of the sort in point of fact.


You didn't answer my question though.
Why did the original status quo of "No western on /d/" need to change if "status quo is fucking fine"
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>>6479381
I answered your question.

Theres also the possibility that that new owner doesnt know better and is simply out of the loop and just read the rules and followed them without any understanding of how things have changed.
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>>6479379
If they're enforcing the same rule, which is not a new rule at all, I see no reason that how that rule is read and enforced will changed since its past iterations, do you?

The way the rule is written now is the same as it was then.

And yet back then, the way it was enforced was based on one or the other makes it ok.

If it's eastern in origin, it's ok. -OR-
If it's eastern in style, it's ok.

The way the rule as it is written now, is the same as it was written then. And that was how it was previously enforced.

So why do you believe the enforcement will change?
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>>6479387
>I answered your question.
No you didn't.

>Theres also the possibility that that new owner doesnt know better and is simply out of the loop and just read the rules and followed them without any understanding of how things have changed.

Moot and Nishimura have been talking. A LOT. For 6 months. You know this of course because you aren't ignorant.
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>>6479387
>>6479366
So status quo ISN'T fine when it doesn't serve you, but it IS fine when it does?

WELP.
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>>6479395
Yeah, because Hiroshima Nagasaki has his finger on the pulse of ABDL threads on /d/

and yes, i answered your question.
>>6479366
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RIP /d/
This place really turned against itself really fast.
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>>6479373
On the contrary, your poor punctuation and inability to capitalize necessary words makes me think of you as uneducated, lazy, and someone unable to put forth the minimal effort to make your post professional.
It is entirely possible the population of 4chan has changed since I arrived though and I may be advocating interests that are no longer relevant to to the site.
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>>6479408
the funny thing is that "my" status quo served everyone while eastern only quo only serves eastern people.

Get it?

Besides, we were arguing what WAS the status quo not whether or not its good. kay?
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>>6479429
Goodie for you. You pompous asshole.
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>>6479318

>And then it got changed. Why was the status quo on /d/ changed if it was just fine?

Because it wasn't fine. You answered your own question, anon.

>>6479392
>If it's eastern in origin, it's ok.

I'll make sure I remember that when Dmitrys (The russian/Austrailian (Which is still in the eastern hemisphere therefore eastern) artist) gets deleted.

>>6479427
Even here, you give trolls an inch they'll take a mile.
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>>6479427
yeah /d/ was such a nice board
this thread even started pretty reasonable, now it's just salty dickheads arguing with eachother
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>>6479432
Your status quo serves only you.
Mine serves me.

Get it?

>Besides, we were arguing what WAS the status quo not whether or not its good. kay?

No.
You literally said:

>Fuck off. The status quo works fine
To which I pointed out:
The original status quo was enforcement of the rule.
Which, if what you said was true:
enforcement of the rule was fine.
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>>6479442
>Because it wasn't fine

>Fuck off. The status quo works fine


>I'll make sure I remember that when Dmitrys (The russian/Austrailian (Which is still in the eastern hemisphere therefore eastern) artist) gets deleted.
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>>6479427
/d/ died when general threads became a thing and this became some sort of demented discussion board instead of one that revolved around hentai images. Gonna be hard to find a place quite like /d/ without furries somewhere else.

>>6479432
Everyone? Your logic confuses me.
>kay?
Faggot.
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>>6479450
For those wondering.
This mod post was made when no western on /d/ was enforced.

It wasn't written down on /d/'s rules page but was enforced from /h/'s page because /d/ was considered (and still is) an alternative page for /h/, so it used the same rule.

And thus had the same rule as it does now.
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>>6479445
No, it serves everyone because you can still post eastern artwork.

Actually, they were having an argument on whether or not enforcement was the status quo then arguing about the word meaning ensued. It was eventually realized that non-enforcement and not enforcement became the status quo.

So therefore, if you were all about the status quo, you should be for non-enforcement since it was the status quo for quite some time.
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>>6479450

If the status quo was fine it wouldn't have changed. THe only reason it's changing now is because the mod doesn't have shit to do with the board and feels the need to throw his weight around. From everything i've seen more /d/eviants are against this change than are for it, so it's a negative move for everyone except your vocal minority who want to make new content a rarity and delete several fetishes from the board entirely because of some idiotic idea that nobody in the western hemisphere can be a quality artist.
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>>6479469
>If the status quo was fine it wouldn't have changed.
But how would you know?
You weren't there when it did.
I was.
When I was there, it was a very small vocal minority posting it and whenever they were corrected they BITCHED LOUDLY.
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>>6479453

Non-enforcement = allows both eastern and western. all abdl art that isn't furry is allowed.

Enforcement = only allows eastern abdl art

It's pretty simple logic.
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>>6479466
>Actually, they were having an argument on whether or not enforcement was the status quo then arguing about the word meaning ensued
No.
You literally said the status quo is fucking fine.
I pointed out the status quo was first for enforcement.
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>>6479478

I'm glad you know my 4chan browsing history. There was an uproar then it was soon agreed that it was a welcome change once it proved to not be the calamity people expected it to be.

At that point it's somewhat reasonable to be worried because you don't know what that could bring. At this point, we've seen both forms of /d/ and more people agree that non-enforcement version is better than enforcement version.
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>>6479486
It's entirely possible that since there is no post ID in these threads that you are confusing me for others.
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>>6479466
>No, it serves everyone because you can still post eastern artwork.

By that logic you could let the furries in and even though furry threads would crowd out everything else on the board and attract the very worst kind of posters everything would be fine because:
>muh status quo serves everyone
Against the rules is against the rules, your status quo is irrelevant.
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>>6479469
4chan isn't now nor has it ever been a democracy.
I think that's where the problem and error in perception is coming from.

You think that since people stopped wanting the rule enforced you also think the mods listened to you there was democratic action involved.
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>>6479481
See:
>>6479500
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>>6479392
>> do you?
yes, you fucking moron, because the rule allows for it and the interpretations of the mods are posted to confirm it as the likeliest possibility.

and the way the rule is written now clearly says no western art and fan art. which means no western art and no fan art (all art that is fan art would be banned) or no western art and fan art (meaning western in origin fan art) or no western art or fan art in the western style, (which is fucking redundant)
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>>6479495
Agreed by who?
And this argument from popularity shit is starting to get on my nerves.
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>>6479500
Furry isn't the same as subjective art style.

Furry literally anthropomorphizes animals which turns the context of the art into something else. Delving it even into other fetish territory.

There is a huge difference between furry and art style.

eastern and western both depict the same things: men and women wearing diapers. Not animals.

it's not irrelevant. It's very much relevant that it wasn't enforced.
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>>6479510
>and the way the rule is written now
IS THE SAME AS IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN.

>the interpretations of the mods are posted to confirm it as the likeliest possibility.
Where.
Show me.
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>>6479519
>It's a totally different thing!
About that.
Furries have made the exact same argument.
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>>6479501

All that means is that the wishes of the people on this board don't matter. It means it WILL happen, while what we're discussing here is if it SHOULD happen, and lamenting the board because we realize how much this is going to hurt the place. The mods have always just done what they wanted without any regard for the board anyway, so it's not surprising. Just dissappointing.

>>6479512

Look through the thread, more people are disappointed than enheartened. Also the argument isn't entirely popularity, it's that most people recognize what's going to happen and are hating that it's happening with no way to stop it.
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>>6479509
Its a slippery slope.

It's also a false comparison.

Ironically, those that posted furry art were deleted. It was enforced and for obvious reasons.
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>>6479526
Good for them?
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>>6479501
nobody thinks that. at least nobody but the massive ammount of mlp hating faggots who whined so hard GR 15 was made. those people probably actually do think 4chan is run by the mob. we on the other hand prefer making our intentions clear to the mods that they may decide its too much trouble to enforce, which has always been a legitimate strategy in power structures like dictatorships and monarchies.
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>>6479519
Furry and western are both against the rules. The rules aren't made to work at your convenience; they either are absolute or not. Your 'status quo' is still irrelevant.
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>>6479520
>>>/aco/
nevermind the fact that I just posted it 30 times in this thread. you fucking twat basket. "oh i'm such an old fag" yeah you're old, to fucking old to follow a conversation.
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>>6479526
>>6479519
>>6479531

To point out the relevant bit:
"People asking for strict boundaries and clarifications on what should already be culturally-evident mores and policies are trying to intentionally toe the line. The rule has always been "no furries" so fuck all of you assholes who think that you're somehow better than a rule that's been in place since the inception of the fucking site over six years ago"

You can literally take his response and apply it to "no western."

>>6479534
And their argument was equally shitty.
Your argument is shitty.
How do you not see how their argument of, "but the rule is dumb because muh relativism fallacy!"
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>>6479531
How is it a false comparison? Both are against the rules, western art has just slipped by because it isn't as visually distinctive as furshit.
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>>6479546
Show me specific examples of the interpretations of the mods.
Please.
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>It's been a rule since day 1 no reason it should be changed!

Literally the same as saying slavery should still be around and women shouldn't be able to vote.
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>>6479548
nobody is questioning whether the rule is legitimate dumbfuck. we're saying it's retarded and shouldn't be enforced. in the same way most people today think an old unenforced ordinance not to sell groceries on sundays should not suddenly be enforced because some ruleslawyer dug it out of the city's laws.
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>>6479529
Honestly of all the people who say western should be allowed, and all my interactions with them in the past:

Good.
Be gone. I hope the door hits you on the way out. I like some western porn, I like some hentai porn.
But as people? You are bad people. You are all cruel, mean people who won't even oblige the rules when asked nicely and get as uppity and spiteful as furries when politely and nicely and kindly pointed to the rules and you get INDIGNANT AND PRIDEFUL that you DESERVE to have your content here for no reason other than you came in here and clicked /d/.
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>>6479559
a lot of people on this cess pool probably unironically believe those two things should be ever since the conservatives grew up and learned how to internet.
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>>6479566
QED:
>>6479561
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>>6479559
>>6479568

>comparing no western on /d/ to slavery
>THINKING 4CHAN IS A FUCKING RIGHT NOT A PRIVILEGE
>THINKING 4CHAN IS A FUCKING DEMOCRACY
>THINKING YOU DESERVE TO HAVE YOUR CONTENT HERE BY YOUR MERE PRESENCE
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>>6479541
Not at all.

Rules have a purpose.

If a rule makes no sense and only divides everything, you toss it out.

>>6479548
you can't explain why it's a poor argument other than using an unrelated argument.

for years, the mods did think the rules against western was dumb so that isn't irrelevant. its pretty relevant to the points being made.

all you can cling to is what was a rule years ago. you can't explain exactly why western is the same as allowing furry other than clinging to this idea that the rules years ago are very important for some unknown reason.

And for years, the mods felt they knew better than those people that were for enforcement.

your arguments are very weak.

again, rules have purpose. being against western has no purpose other than "because the rule said so and err that's all bro"

it's like a tribe that sacrifices virgins in a volcano. Someone asks why we still do this and the response they receive is "because that's just how it is". It's a stupid response. it's a non-answer.
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>>6479566

Honestly of all the people who say western should be disallowed, and all my interactions with them in the past:

Good.
Be gone. I hope the door hits you on the way out. I like some western porn, I like some hentai porn.
But as people? You are bad people. You are all cruel, mean people who always roll over when asked nicely and get as uppity and spiteful as furries when politely and nicely and kindly reminded that not every rule is just and you get INDIGNANT AND PRIDEFUL that you DESERVE to have content you don't like removed for no reason other than you came in here and clicked /d/.
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>>6478662
If adding new board for furfags?
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>>6479561
I can still apply your retarded logic to the furry rule.
>we're saying it's retarded and shouldn't be enforced
Your logic is flawed until the rules change, and therefore western shit should get the hell out of the hentai alternative board.
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>>6479551
>because it isn't as visually distinctive as furshit.

exactly my point. that's exactly why its a false comparison.

it slipped because it blends in. it blends in because they have far more similarities than not. furry does not. the fact that one notices a difference right away with furry shows why.
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>>6479575

>Comparing dumb laws to dumb laws is bad

Nice critical thinking there, /jp/.
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>>6479566
>>nicely pointed out the rules
>>cruel and mean people
what kind of fucking shit are you even on? you are litterally equating this discussion as a form of cruelty? I think this post is an easy example of how out of fucking touch with reality autist who give a shit about this kind of thing really are. to you posting a pony outside the rules must be like some kind of unforgivable sin, jesus why couldnt we be more kind and think of your widdle feelings and how dat horsie would hurt you.

heres a wake up call asshole. your narrative is twisted as fuck. furries where never asked politely to anything. they where trolled and then put on a board and got a global ip ban for posting in it.

apperantly posting an image in a fetish site is prideful now? we're litteraly just fucking contributing to our threads fetish. nobody wears "Western artist here, coming through" like a badge of honor. its all about the content being created you mongoloid.
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>>6479577
>you can't explain why it's a poor argument
I just did. I told you that "oh, but, you can't tell what's western and eastern" is a poor relatvisim fallacy.

>for years, the mods did think the rules against western was dumb so that isn't irrelevant. its pretty relevant to the points being made.
odd, since they never said a damn thing about it.
You seem to be speaking for them a lot.
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>>6479575
>>durrr dey mentioned slavery dey must be comparing dem
you are a fucking illiterate dipshit, what a surprise. no asshole, I was more going off of how blatantly misanthropic 4chan is in general these days.
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>>6479592

Inaction is worth a thousand words, anon.
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>>6479590
I'm talking about IN THE PAST WHEN I ASKED PEOPLE OR TOLD THEM THAT HEY THIS IS AGAINST THE RULES BY THE WAY COULD YOU PLEASE NOT POST THIS.
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>>6479566
you basically described eastern only folk and their adherence to an old rule for not other reason than because "its the rule" and out of spite.

what's spiteful is not allowing others to enjoy their art because it has a slight variation of art style and telling them to leave if they don't like it when everyone was fine otherwise
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>>6479595
I already explained a thousand times why that happened.
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some of you are getting really angry over a really petty subject in retrospect
turn off the computer and go outside
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>>6479583
>>durrr
my logic isn't flawed asshole. it accurately describes the situation. theres no logical conclusion because 4chan doesn't opperate always on what is logical, but that doesn't stop our arguement from existing you stupid sack of shit.
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>>6479590
>furries where never asked politely to anything. they where trolled and then put on a board and got a global ip ban for posting in it.
Holy fuck you actually defending furries right now?
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>>6479601

And your interpretation is as worthless as you think other interpretations are because you're also not a mod.

>>6479603

How would you like it if someone came along and forcibly remodeled your house into an inferior version?
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>>6479592
like this fellow said: >>6479595

inaction is a type of action.

if you cant see the difference between art style and furry art then i dunno what else to say.
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>>6479112
>censor peoples opinions that I don't like
well you can just fuck right off
it dosent matter if you agree or not you should be able to speak your mind of 4chan
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>>6479599
>not allowing others to enjoy their art because it has a slight variation of art style and telling them to leave if they don't like it when everyone was fine otherwise
You can enjoy it anywhere you like.
There are lots of places for it.

Asking _nicely_ and putting up a rule that's clear as day for everyone to see isn't persecution.
It's saying, "look, this just isn't the place for this art."
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>>6479608
I have to live in my house
I don't have to spend any time on a porn board, I choose to do that
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>>6479616

You don't have to live in your house, anon.
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>>6479597
oh yeah, I'm sure we can rely on this ancient fag to tell a completely accurate and unbiased tale of how everyone was just politely asking people not to do things and nobody got mad and decided to throw a bitch fit because something was posted that they didn't like.

its a good thing 4chan has a long history of being a place where we're all really acceptingand kind to one another when we come to disagreements and don't argue and are totally willing to compramise.
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>>6479610
>>6479608
Again, it's not an interpretation,
It's how the report system fucking works.

There's a report queue.
More reports, you get closer to the top of the queue and more likely to be seen by the mods.
Less reports, more likely to get unseen.
It's not a hard system to understand. The mods have specifically on numerous boards explained how this system works.
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>>6479577
The rule has NOT been tossed out though, the rule is still in play and until moderation changes it you should take your western art to the new board. Advocate your rule change all you want, until then western art is a rulebreaking offense and I will report it where I find it. I hope you post some so your ass gets banned.

>>6479586
My comparison is valid as they are both rulebreakers though.
This is a hentai board and western art does not belong here.

>>6479605
Until the rules change though and western is no longer a bannable offense you are still in the wrong buddy. Insult me more it makes me hard and it makes you look childish.
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>>6479621
If you're going to call me a liar, call me a liar.

So I can call you one right back, and this conversation can stop dead in its tracks and neither one of us goes anywhere because neither of us believes a word what the other says.

I'm telling you what happened, even so far as just a few days ago, when I tried to ask people nicely to not post western on /d/, I got nothing but shit and flak and angry replies in return.

So pardon me if my opinion of people who post that is low and if you're not helping.
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>>6479606
>>stating the truth is defending
are you denying that that happened?
no, of course not, you're just too stupid to understand that villifying your side for your intolerance and stupidity doesn't mean I've bought into the other sides faggotry. fucking polarized dip shits.
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This is currently the most disgusting thread on /d/. Let that sink in for a moment.
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>>6479615
>>asking
>>nicely
>>asking nicely
you keep saying this shit. that doesn't make it true dumbfuck.
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>>6479624

So you're saying that a mod never goes and looks for violations themselves AND the people of the board don't report that content, at least to the point where it's getting the mod's attention?

Especially when threads specifically dedicated to western artists or full of western art pop up daily?

There's no way you can say the mod is that ignorant AND that this is a problem without also implying that the mod has no problem with the material AND the board has no problem with the material.

Unless you're just calling the mod incompetent, which means his declaration today is part of a continued string of incompetency and we need someone in charge who knows what they're doing.
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>>6479633
To answer your original point:
Yes, actually, furries would post furry porn here and on all the boards on 4chan despite the rule plainly stating otherwise.

So they were told by the rules not to do what they did. Plainly. And not in an unkind or intolerant way.
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>>6479635
A discussion about the board rules and the nature of some content that may or may not belong on a new board is a healthy thing from time to time. I just wish some anons would be more professional about it. Insults don't prove a point.
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>>6479626
>>you are in the wrong.
no I am not in the wrong stupid. it certainly doesn't make me look childish to insult someone too stupid to follow a train of thought, here let me help you get to the station. we said "This rule is a bad rule, it wasn't enforced for yeas and it should continue to be such"
"you guys are wrong because the rule exists and it a rule so you're wrong"
"that is litterally irrelevant to our arguement"
"I rub my nipples now teehee"
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>>6479626

Announcing reports is also against the rules, anon. I hope your ass gets banned.

>>6479626
>Insult me more it makes me hard and it makes you look childish.

He's just trying to argue on the same level you are, no need to get uppity.
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>>6479639

>So you're saying that a mod never goes and looks for violations themselves AND the people of the board don't report that content, at least to the point where it's getting the mod's attention?
Depends on the board.
On some boards, yes, that's what happens. This happens on /d/ unless there's a lot of reports.

>Especially when threads specifically dedicated to western artists or full of western art pop up daily?
Unless it gets lots of reports.
Again. Most of 4chan's moderation staff is on 4chan's irc channel and is unavailable. The moderation has real lives and isn't available all that often.


>There's no way you can say the mod is that ignorant AND that this is a problem without also implying that the mod has no problem with the material AND the board has no problem with the material.
Given the above two statements:
yes.

>Unless you're just calling the mod incompetent, which means his declaration today is part of a continued string of incompetency and we need someone in charge who knows what they're doing.
The mod is either incompetent or understaffed. 4chan gets a LOT of posts.
It's also possible /d/ doesn't have a dedicated mod. It happens but yeah.
If you've ever been to other boards on 4chan?
There's a lot of moderation gaps.
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>>6479632
I'm not calling you a liar, I'm calling you delusional, you've not only a completely warped opinion on how 4chan actually behaved, but your values are so warped you think posting aesir in the vore thread or chatting up kiyoa as they draw us shit to fap to is some unspeakable cruelty and we're all bad people.

even if I was to give you the benefit of the doubt, you can only account for your own fucking actions and its clear from history that you are no the norm, nor is it reasonable to expect people to react in any way different specifically because you popped in the midst of a bunch of raging monkeys to ask nicely.
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>>6479658
You're posting some examples here that are going over my head.

That aside:
"It's perfectly reasonable to act like a shit head when someone is nice to you or polite."

You are not winning me over to your side. you're proving my point.
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>>6479645
>>told
>>by the rules
look retard, I know you are stupid, but even a child knows the difference between being asked something and telling someone.

Now i'd like to direct your attention to rule 3
>>You will not post any of the following outside of /b/: Trolls, flames, racism, off-topic replies, uncalled for catchphrases, macro image replies, indecipherable text (example: "lol u tk him 2da bar|?"), anthropomorphic ("furry") or grotesque ("guro") images, post number GETs ("dubs"), or loli/shota pornography.

how often it is broken, and maybe contemplate on why a bunch of twat baskets spamming shit might have gotten the idea that the rules are for fools on this site.
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>>6479650
>strawman arguments: the post.
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>>6479650
I fully comprehend your off the rails train of thought, but I am stating that until the rule is physically changed you are in fact violating the rule by posting western content. The way you want the board to be is not the state the board is in. You should take your dispute to the moderation rather than slamming your head against my statements hoping it will make western content allowed. If the rule change I will certainly abide by them and not complain about it which is more than I can say for the defenders of western content.

>>6479652
I have not reported anyone and therefore have not violated any rules friend, I'm just saying content against the rules will be reported whether it is by me or someone else. His inability to capitalize is bothersome though.
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>>6477801
Nope. Greatest faps I've ever had are due to this place.
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>>6479665
Being told the rules is not impolite and being asked to follow them isn't impolite or even unkind.

>how often it is broken, and maybe contemplate on why a bunch of twat baskets spamming shit might have gotten the idea that the rules are for fools on this site.
So you're ...agreeing that furries were acting like shitheads by breaking the rules?
I don't understand.
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>>6479655

/d/ is not a fast enough board that offending content wouldn't still be there when a mod got online. It's not a matter of the mod not catching it at that point, it's a matter of either the mod not having a problem with the material, or the board doesn't to the point where it doesn't get reported enough to reach the mod(s). On the other hand, /d/ is the fastest drawn porn board, so if western material (which has made up a large portion of the board at times) was an actual problem, there would be enough people to report it to the point where it got the mod's attention more likely than not.

I could believe it's incompetence, but that just means this is another incompetent step by said mod, and we should reject it and combat it until we convince him he's in the wrong.


Though, does anyone here have access to the mod channel? We could simply ask some mod to come in and clarify, if not full on discuss it with us. That would at least stop this full-tilt arguing.
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>>6479665
>if other people are breaking the rules, that means it's ok for me to as well!
Anyone with this mentality is in the wrong.
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>>6479670

You announced your intention (and even desire) to report a specific person for something. As far as I can read the rule, that's announcing reporting.
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>>6479663
no actually, you're proving my point, that you're an insuferable but likely innocent twat that is too caught up in his own actions being "polite" that he has no idea what context is and why it matters. this behavior is litterally autistic, like, actually displayed by autistic people i've met, where they do things that are technically polite and wonder why others get upset at them, without realizing shit like the fact when you are surrounded by people rudely telling them to rudely get the fuck out, your polite request is going to be seen in a very negative light. not to mention that while you may think you are being polite, your actual actions can be seen as selfish, because you are basically asking the black guy to get in the back of the bus. a bit of hyperbole but the fact is you can't handle what you are seeing and are asking people to leave instead of hiding the post or even just ignoring it. and the fact that others did not comply has left you with this delusional view that it constitutes some kind of major cruelty for having introduded in fappy time.
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>>6479682
If he posts content that is against the rules. As far as I know that anon has not done so and therefore not given me a reason to report him.
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>>6479678
>or the board doesn't to the point where it doesn't get reported enough to reach the mod(s).
This is what is happening.

> On the other hand, /d/ is the fastest drawn porn board, so if western material (which has made up a large portion of the board at times) was an actual problem, there would be enough people to report it to the point where it got the mod's attention more likely than not.
This means only that there are not a lot of people reporting it.
Not that it isn't a problem. That sounds like the two are mutually exclusive.

It's also possible people used to report it and gave up reporting.
...As I have.

>Though, does anyone here have access to the mod channel?
Getting on 4chan irc these days is a real pain in the ass. Getting a hold of a mod through all the, quite frankly, annoying shitty people on the irc is even more of a pain in the ass.

If you want me to guide you, I can help, but there's no way in hell I'm going to since it sucks so hard.

4chan's irc channel requires you to register a nickname.
The process is painstaking and requires you to pm a bot with your nickname on nickserv with a valid email. And then if you want to keep it up you have to use it once a month.

This is why the mods are so hard to get a hold of.
Because they put themselves behind this wall.
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>>6479693
>hey guys could you not post western here? Thanks
>FUCK OFF FUCKTARD!
>wow what an asshole
>UR LITERALLY AN AUTISM

You are just digging yourself deeper and and deeper.
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>>6479693
If you act like a twat when someone asks you to follow the rules nicely, that is 100% on you.
You can't blame the person who asks you to follow the rules at all.

You are a colossal shithead who blames all his shittiness on other people and this is why when you are not on /d/ anymore /d/ will be a better place.
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>>6479675
>>being asked
nice backpeddling
but no, nobody "Asked them to follow the rules." the rules where told, and likely made, because people didn't like them spamming shit. I wonder how they reacted? certainly everyone must have been so polite.

>>So you're ...agreeing that furries were acting like shitheads by breaking the rules?
>>I don't understand.
I know you don't understand, you are literally too stupid to grasp the concept of monkey see monkey do. you proved that when you decided I was defending furries for not brown nosing you over how "mature and enlightened" 4chan acts about them. if you litterally can't handle the idea that you and furries are not on some magical see saw where every downward motion experianced by your own stupidity, hypocracy, and overall poor attitude pushes them up, how can anyone expect for you to understand something as complex as your own inherent follies and vices to break the rules serving as a massive precident for everyone, furry or not, to regard them with little respect

its not like there was a creator of this site who litterally got on a massively popular video and told everyone that the rules where more or less ignored by everyone. them furries and westaboos sure are the only ones who ignore the rules. nobody could have preceeded them.
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>>6479706

I'd probably still be banned from a while ago when I tried to contest an on-site banning.

Yep, I just tried it. Sorry to fail. It's pretty bullshit the mods make themselves so scarce, in any event.
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>>6479680
anyone with this mentality is human, or do you always go 60 on the highway you hypocritcal fucker?
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>>6479726
It's a logical fucking fallacy you dumb shit.
"it's human" doesn't excuse it.
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>>6479719
>>6479715
so both of you are not only incapable of empathizing with someone other than yourself, you are unable to even read the context in which everything was said. I can't help but think you two aren't the person i replied to. that would mean that person is so stupid they literally forgot what they just said.
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>>6479720
How is the rule for no furries on 4chan not ok?
How is it unreasonable to follow the fucking rules?

How am I fucking hypocrite, stupid or even have a poor attitude, anon?

I've been nothing but fucking reasonable and you just get more and more upset at me for ...
For what, exactly?
What have I done?
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>>6479728
actually, it does excuse it you fucking moron. what you are thinking of is justification. this isnt science or philosophy. we aren't argueing in a vaccuum. there are people involved and the decisions involved in dealing out rules and order has to take into account their humanity or it will be a fucking broken system. which by the way is why the rules are so often fucking ignored, because they are A: out of sync with everyone, even the moderation staff, who enforce selectively, and B: theyre easy to break and hard to enforce.

and if you actually think that this change is going to ammount to anything you're dreaming, or the moderators are going to be hiring a lot more people. moving half of /d/ is going to take time and effort.
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>>6479731
I am the same person.
I wanted to add to the first post some additional information.

>incapable of empathizing
Projection! We've reached that part of the argument already!

>unable to read context
I understand what you're saying.
But you can't get upset at someone telling you you're breaking while breaking the rules and STILL believe you're in the RIGHT, can you?


Have you ever told someone posting furry on /d/ to stop?
Or posting guro? Or anything else that doesn't belong on /d/?
You can't tell me you haven't.
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>>6479731
You posting style leads me to believe that you have posted near constantly in this thread for a while, but you shouldn't assume everyone you reply to is the same person just because they can type proficiently and correctly. Go have a fap anon, you're too upset over something too trivial.
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>>6479735
I literally just explained all of that. maybe you should consider what your actions are instead of what you are saying,. I'm not going to keep spoon feeding you the same answer over and over because you "don't get it:" and cant read a simple fucking post. laced with sarcasm i know, its still not hard at all to follow and yet your post makes it clear you don't know what was stated and have questions still that it directly addresses.
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>>6479755
>I literally just explained all of that.
You LITERALLY did not.
You LITERALLY just asserted it.
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>>6479590
>apperantly posting an image in a fetish site is prideful now? we're litteraly just fucking contributing to our threads fetish. nobody wears "Western artist here, coming through" like a badge of honor. its all about the content being created you mongoloid.
"the rules shouldn't apply to me because I'm special" is selfish as fuck and this is the attitude furries (and you) all have in common.
When told that the rules should apply to _everyone_, it is the very SELFISH that get upset.
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>>6479745
>>But you can't get upset at someone telling you you're breaking while breaking the rules and STILL believe you're in the RIGHT, can you?

actually, you fucking can shit monger, its pretty damn easy. and you've seen it thousands of times from people you agree with if you are a regular poster on 4chan and not at all a stranger to its culture. you see people complaining about butthurt feelings and the like all the time, people constantly breaking rule 3. people ask for these people to stop doing this, and they keep going and just laugh, the moderators do not give one fuck about it.

welcome to 4chan you stupid fuck. you obviously haven't been here long if none of this sounds familiar.
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>>6479761
>"the rules shouldn't apply to me because I'm special" is selfish as fuck and this is the attitude furries (and 4chan) all have in common.
here, let me fix that for you you illiterate retard. you should be on disability.
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>>6479757
I litterally did.
you are the one asserting I didn't.
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>>6479767
Well at least we can finally agree on that.
Yes, a bunch of people on 4chan are selfish as fuck and think the rules shouldn't apply to themselves because they are assholes.

See the post above you.
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does this mean futa threads will actually have futa in them since western artist (and consumers of it) don't realize that futa isn't a synonym for shemale/trap?
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>>6479770
I read every single post.
Not a single time.
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>>6479771
you mean _my_ post? i've been litterally trying to cram this concept down your stupid throat for about 20 minutes now.
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>>6479762
I'm thoroughly convinced now you are an asshole and /d/ will be better without you.
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>>6479777
then you didn't read a single post
not a single time. go back and try actually reading it instead of sperging out on how right you are and deciding what i've said before you even digested it.
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>>6479772

Yes, but only the same shit you've seen for the last 7 years (with the exception of Comiket/futaket times, where they get added to the rotation), and with the addition of shitty Pixiv posts anons who are starved for content will hunt down.
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>>6479782

I'm against the western ban too, but I think you're right. Nice to see we can agree on something, at least.
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>>6479784
But I am right.
I read every post.
>not a single time
Not a single time what?
Now you're just posting things.
Are you just baiting me?
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>>6479789
I'm not against the western ban.
I don't care what people like.
I didn't think gr 15 was a good idea or like it but I follow it.
Because I like 4chan.
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>>6479782
>>6479789
oh yeah, what an asshole I am for taking the shit out of someone saying we've done an unspeakable cruelty and are all bad people for posting art drawn by not asians in /d/.

I'm not sure why you keep repeating yourself, I heard you the first time. I don't care what you think, you are only superficially polite, refuse to read or comprehend anything that goes against you, and then act buttfrustrated and petulant when your polite words don't magically change reality to suit your wishes.
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>>6479795
>>now you're just posting things
you've been posting things for quite some time, I'm the one who has to go through all the fucking work explaining someting to you that i've already explained. you are not right, you are wrong, and you are retarded. you did not read my posts, because you did not retain any of their contents enough to answer your own questions.
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>>6479799
>we've done an unspeakable cruelty and are all bad people for posting art drawn by not asians in /d/.
This is a misrepresentation of my argument.

>refuse to read or comprehend anything that goes against you, and then act buttfrustrated and petulant when your polite words don't magically change reality to suit your wishes.
Projection.
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>>6479801
Ok sure, I'm retarded.
Then maybe you can repeat them for me a second time.
Be a pal.
Be "nice" if that's in your capacity.
Start with, "what's wrong with the rule against furry content?"
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KEEP THIS ALIVE
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>>6479798

I meant to say I'm on his side in the argument, but he's kind of a cunt. Sorry for the confusion.
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>>6479799
>I am for taking the shit out of someone saying we've done an unspeakable cruelty and are all bad people for posting art drawn by not asians in /d/.
>if someone says something I disagree with, I can take the piss out of them/be mad at them/act like a shit to them.
Justify this for me please.

http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/two-wrongs-make-a-right.html

http://www.logicallyfallacious.com/index.php/logical-fallacies/178-two-wrongs-make-a-right

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two_wrongs_make_a_right

http://www.fallacyfiles.org/twowrong.html
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>>6479812
I don't blame him for being really angry.
I would be too in his shoes.
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>>6479802
>>this is a misrepresentation of my arguement
it is the words you've used.
and no, its not projection, but the facts, as we've already established when you couldn't comprehend something as simple as context affecting your "request"

you call other people selfish becuase they don't follow the rules too, as though the rules are inherently designed to be fair to everyone and are inherently built with a sense of fair play.

just because you masturbate all over the rules to this extent does not mean that endows them with any inherent quality except to maintain a certain kind of order, a kind of order we've established that since their inception, the mods had no interest in maintaining in anything approaching totality. yet you can't comprehend why someone would think they are not in the wrong when they bend a rule. tell you what. go be a cop, idle on the freeway, and pull over every car that passes the speed limit. then take an opinion poll from them on weather they think they deserved to be pulled over.
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>>6479806
>>second
>>implying this is just the second time
you're adorable.
no. because none of you have extended that same kindness to me, you've ignored my posts answers, projected all kinds of baffling and irrelevant shit into it that i haven't even advocated, and are unwilling to put your own effort into doing so, because you'd rather lambast me. the olive branch you offered is being delivered on your fat lazy ass after I've spent the whole of my time working to make you understand.
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>>6479819
>yet you can't comprehend why someone would think they are not in the wrong when they bend a rule.
I can tell you think you're ok with bending the rules.
But I keep bringing up that if everyone was allowed to bend the rule to their perceived direction of what should be allowed, no rule would be allowed.

People who want to post guro want to have the rules bent for them.
People who want to post furry want to have the rules bent for them.
Or scat.
Or, well, it keeps going.

Being upset at someone politely telling you what the rules are is really silly. Especially since that person could be informing you of the rules because they think they're just ignorant, or just don't.

And often, that's the case.
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>>6479811
The discussion is long gone, just shitflinging now, let it die.

>>6479819
Buddy you might want to step away from the keyboard, you've full tilted and are making a fool of yourself.
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>>6479826
>implying this is just the second time
It is.
>because none of you
(guilt by association)
>projected all kinds of baffling and irrelevant shit into it that i haven't even advocated
Such as?
>and are unwilling to put your own effort into doing so
I'm trying my best here, but you're giving me so little.
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>>6479814
aww is that your favorite fallacy? i wonder if it has anything to do with your posting habbits, on how you are wrong but what you try to draw attention to is constantly how you think the other poster is wrong too.

if two wrongs don't make a right, you sure don't spend much effort assessing the wrong in your posts and correcting it. I already went over why this shit is irrelevant. but since you are incapable of understanding why, let me offer you one of my favorite fallacies, I'm sure you'll understand its meaning.

https://sites.google.com/site/disagreementhierarchy/dh2-responding-to-tone
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>>6479838
>>it is
it isn't
>>guilty by association
no, not innocent by association (none of you have done *right* thing, not "one of you has done *bad* thing)
>>such as
I've already explained them.
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>>6479840
This is a non-sequitur/red herring.
Please stick to the topic:
You talk a great deal of empathy but literally said you don't care what I think.

You are holding me to a lot of very lofty standards while holding yourself to none of them.
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>>6479829
>>if everyone is allowed to bend the rules
except thats not the case, not everyone is allowed to bend the rules, nor is everyone allowed to bend the rules to the same extent, the rules of 4chan are not fair. the rules of 4chan are not intended to be fair. I already posted all about that. furthermore, if the rules of 4chan where enforced to their fullest extent, the difference would be night and day, 4chan as a community would not be recognizable, and the entire site would go up in flames of fury at once.

the rules that are being bent are being bent because moderators allow it.

the last half of your post has already been addressed by my previous posts though.
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>>6479846
Then let's look at your posts:
>>6479720
In this post you posited that other people are breaking the rules too, and moot acknowledged this.

However, this is irrelevant.
What other people are doing, does not permit or make more acceptable what you do. Furries are not more validated by the rule violations of other people. "other people are breaking the rules, why can't I?"
the popularity of rule violation does not change how much it is permitted.

>>6479858
At least we've opened up enough dialogue to discuss and entertain some thoughts.

Yes.
Some rules are enforced more stringently than others.

> the rules of 4chan are not fair. the rules of 4chan are not intended to be fair
Also correct.

So then.
I can sincerely ask.
Do you believe then, that, how much these rules are bent or not, and which rules, are subject to change?
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>>6479850
it is not a non sequiter, though you've delivered plenty yourself. I already explained how fallacies where irrelevant in the first place because the rules of 4chan are not dictated by logic.

and no, I'm not in the habit of granting my limited as a human being empathy to people who literally say I'm a terrible person and /d/ would be better off without me, and I'm a cruel and selfish person for wanting art to be shared with people who want to see it regardless of what a few upset little shits think who aren't being forced to view it.

so far though, the only standards i've held people up to is that they read my posts thoroughly and understand the content before they post a reply, the same courtesy i give to all of you.

to say that I'm holding you up to lofty standards because i criticized you is hilariously wrong.
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>>6479184
Yeah that mod dont work here no more
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>>6479866
>criticized
You are using the wrong word.
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>>6479867
How can you tell?
And this one does still volunteer as a mod >>6477895 so I would think his support of the current rules should be taken seriously.
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>>6479862
not even sure i can give this an E for effort,
it is relevant, and the only way you could not know that is if you forgot the entire topic and train of thought which went into the post into the first place. the rest of your commenting has nothing to do with the post

>Do you believe then, that, how much these rules are bent or not, and which rules, are subject to change?
I assume you just meant to ask if i believe they are subject to change, and of course I do, I suspect though, that your thoughtprocess and mine will heavily differ when it comes to the decision making process involved in changing what a rule is or how it is enforced.
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>>6479866
>I already explained how fallacies where irrelevant in the first place because the rules of 4chan are not dictated by logic.
This is special pleading, btw.
Nor were we even discussing the rules at that point.
You were just giving a non sequitur.
Not about the rules.
So even if what you said was true.
That wasn't about the rules. And thus not immune to your, "logic doesn't apply here."
But:
Logic applies everywhere anon.
Even when discussing the rules on 4chan. Even if they're unfair. You can logically apply and state that yes, they're illogical, or that they're logical. Or argue that they're immoral, or moral.
Using logic.

But these systems of logic apply when using your arguments.
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>>6479881
>it is relevant, and the only way you could not know that is if you forgot the entire topic and train of thought which went into the post into the first place.
Anon, you are using a fallacy to justify breaking a rule.
This is argument ad populum.
How popular it is to break a rule/the rules does not change whether or not it's ok.
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>>6479878
it is being taken seriously, thats why the thread is an uproar of people disagreeing despite no additional input being given from him.
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>>6479888
>>durrr
it is not special pleading. it is a statement of fact. you cannot rely on fallacies to argue on the content of the rules when the rules are not dictated by logic.

>>it wasn't about the rules
it was about the rules, your entire comment stemmed from the beginning that i was justifying a wrong by another wrong. the action was related to the rules, so the rules of course, apply. justification is worthless in this discussion from a philosophical standpoint. because most of the rules have no justification that is not in itself some kind of fallacy.

and no, those systems of logic do not apply when using arguements, it might make you feel self satisfied and smug being the autist you fucking are. and I mean that litterally, not hyperbole. what makes the decisions surrounding the rules is not logic. it is emotion. appeals to logic did not stop GR15, theyre relevant to the discussion only in so far as they help us understand what is at stake.
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>>6479881
If someone uses the logic, "everyone else breaks the rules," then that person is justifying their action with the argument ad populum fallacy. Which is fallacious logic. Their actions can be disregarded as not logically sound. While that's human and COMMON, that doesn't make it "ok."

It's not setting a precedent.
It's following bad reasoning; basically, the furry's fault for ASSUMING it's ok because everyone else is.
The furry should not have assumed, in this case.

That doesn't excuse everyone else from breaking the rules. It just means that the people breaking the rules aren't directly responsible for the furry breaking the rules.
While the furry couldn't or wouldn't have known, they made an assumption based on bad logic.
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>>6479892
>>this is arguement ad populum
I already made a post on this, but I would like to add again that this is fucking irrelevant. the topic being discussed isn't about logic. it is a recounting of events. a recounting you are too stupid to decifer the meaning of, and can only result to insinuating some kind of agenda.
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>>6479894
They shouldn't need more input, westernfags are just buttblasted that they have to move boards or stop posting rule-breaking content.
The mod was pretty clear with this one.
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>>6479909
>you cannot rely on fallacies to argue on the content of the rules when the rules are not dictated by logic.
The rules are dictated by the wishes of the owner.
The content?
No.

>, it might make you feel self satisfied and smug being the autist you fucking are. and I mean that litterally, not hyperbole.
This is literally a hyperbole.
And I think this discussion is reaching the pinnacle of what you're willing to listen to. You're refusing at this point to listen to anything.
You're saying you don't have to listen to anything or use logic at all simply because the owner can put any rules they like in the site.

You're being intolerant here and refusing to listen.
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>>6479911
>>It just means that the people breaking the rules aren't directly responsible for the furry breaking the rules.
while I would never actually advocate 4chan use this fact of psychology to run things, because it would be a fucking nightmare to mod for, you are factually wrong. populations actions have an enormous impact on human behavior. so to say they are not at fault is rediculous. they led to the action that took place, even if everyone's social agreement is rooted in self reliance and determination.
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>>6479915
not clear enough according to one of your advocates dipshit. there is a disagreement in the thread about what qualifies as western content.
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>>6479914
It's a recounting of events.

Yes.
The rule of no furries has been here since day one.
The furries got globally banned.
This is true.
It was an april fool's day joke and a good one.
Furries broke the rules because they saw everyone else doing it;
However, they were told to GTFO by a LARGE majority of the userbase a LOT.
They were not wanted here. Often. They came here a lot anyway and posted regardless.
There was precedence since the inception of the site that they weren't wanted here.
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>>6479929
Cause versus fault.
Despite that:
Furries weren't unaware they were unwelcome here or on 4chan.
They weren't innocent. They weren't unaware. They weren't ignorant. They posted here fully aware that they were unwelcome and not allowed to post their content here.
And did both a great deal. Regardless of being told to the contrary by the userbase and the administration staff and moderators.
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>>6479926
>The rules are dictated by the wishes of the owner.
>The content?
>No.
>>the content of the rules
>>the rules are decided by the owner
>>the content
>>no
>>the content of the rules
see this is the shit I mean when I say you DONT FUCKING READ.

>>listen to anything
the only thing you've kept on insisted is based on a false premise because you REFUSED to FUCKING READ my posts, AND keep up to date on what is fucking happening in the train of conversation.

I've listened to and responded to everything you've typed that was relevant to the conversation and wasn't answered an hour ago.

and no, you are being intolerant. the literal definition of the two points we are argueing about in this thread as the broad conversation that it represents is the content of /d/ being tolerated. and you began your position in insisting that because you couldn't tolerate 50% of /d/s content and asked so nicely to have it disappear, everyone else was a cruel and terrible person.
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>>6479932
>Western drawn/styled ("toon") pictures and fan drawn ("fanart") images are not allowed.
I'd adhere to the 'styled' part more than western drawn, but now that an entire board exists for western art, I think both belong in the new board, since the mod says that is the home.
Made sense to me, and I have no advocates but myself.
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>>6479932
Sincere question, and, try not to be obstinate to prove a point because, "I already answered that I refuse to answer again because you didn't listen the first time so I never have to say it again" bullshit.

Just fucking answer.
You believe that the no western rule will be moderated differently now: Why?
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>>6479946
oh so we're moving on to being told, being unwelcome, and where definately not ignorant of peoples dislike of them and being unwelcome?

in other words you admit I was right and that whatever polite voice you or others must have represented is infantesimally small?
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>>6479952
>NO NO NO! I REFUSE TO SAY IT AGAIN!
You're acting like a FUCKING CHILD.
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>>6479941
see >>6479959
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>>6479959
What point are you trying to make?
Were people mean to furries?
Yeah, probably.
Did they deserve it?
Yeah. Probably.
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>>6479953
>>I want 50% of /d/ off of /d/
well I don't have much to say other than I hope you eat a million cocks you selfish fucking prick.
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>>6479966
I could easily state with strong conviction that 50% of /d/ is not western styled.

As for the userbase?

Most of them will be missed.
you will not.
You're a prick.
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>>6479961
A child who cannot articulate his thoughts in a sensible fashion. I've tried to keep up with these reply chains but this fellow is too incoherent to follow.
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>>6479954
>>just fucking answer
>>you beleive that the no western rule will be moderated differently now
>>why
sincere question. what the hell does this have to do with what I posted? this is not even the among the list of questions about my post I have refused to answer. nor is it, i will remind, only the first time i've had to post it, I've repeated it 3 times. and still the insinuations from nowhere, and questions that where answered already come.
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>>6479970
"No no no! you don't read! you're not paying attention"
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>>6479966
I want to give the other board a chance to grow too, no need to insult me for restating something the mod said.
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>>6479972
>sincere question. what the hell does this have to do with what I posted?
Nothing.
You're stone walling so we have to change subjects.
> this is not even the among the list of questions about my post I have refused to answer
You're sure?
It's a huge ass list.
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>>6479961
>>6479970
>>please spoon feed me time and time again even if I keep insinuating bullshit strawmans and assaulting your morality as a person
yeah no, WE are acting like children at best, I'm the one acting with any sense. its hilarious to hear that from the latter of you though. particularly with their absolutely petulant behavior at the existance of half this board

>>6479965
you are looking at it from the wrong angle. but that is a recounting of facts that are true that contract someone elses bullshit claim about politeness.
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>>6479981
>but that is a recounting of facts that are true that contract someone elses bullshit claim about politeness.
There were people and continue to be people who do politely tell them to fuck off, in not those words.

I have no idea how many.
Does it happen on /d/?
As a matter of fact it does.
Do I?
As a matter of fact I do.
Sometimes it's just people who don't know the rules - I don't even bother reporting them then since it's a simple easy mistake.

If they get really snarky I try pointing them to the rule.
If they get really mean and angry, then I report and leave the thread.

Nine times out of ten, it isn't worth arguing with people who refuse to follow the rules because they're just...
Selfish dicks.
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>>6479967
>>50% of /d/ is not western styled
but you did not state you want western styled pictures gone, you stated you also wanted western artists gone as well.

>>most of them will be missed
yeah, what a loving dose of comfort that will be to the people you are agreeing should leave. "yeah you need to get the fuck out of here, I'll miss you though, have fun having all your shit deleted on /aco/ and needing to defend what little post you have from the bastions of vanilla posters."

>>you will not
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>>6479978
4 topics is not a huge list you shit head. I'm not stone walling anyone, I'm just not going to keep picking up the spoon to feed someone who keeps knocking it out of my hand and screaming "but you didn't feed me!, what an asshole bitch!"
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>>6479986
>you stated you also wanted western artists gone as well.
I did?
I must have alzheimers.
Thankfully you're here.
And you can link to that post.
Where I said that.
:)
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>>6479989
Right, you're not stonewalling anyone.
Will you answer the question?
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>>6479984
>>there where some guys honest!
the fact that you think this is supposed to ammount to some kind of difference is where your lack of any attachment to how real people work becomes glaringly obvious to anyone with a brain.

>>Selfish
as I already stated, the rules are not fair, so disregarding them is not inherently selfish any more than disregarding a law not to steal and then distributing money from the rich to those that have nothing is, IE not at all. is it against the rules? sure. its not selfish. and wanting to share content with people who want to see it in a place where a few people don't is not selfish. especially when those people are bitching about something assinine like who drew the image.
>>
Never really liked this /d/ead board anyway
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>>6479986
You got the wrong guy buddy, I wanted the artists gone and I wouldn't make a smiley face without a nose. Even if 50% was western it still wouldn't belong here, off to the new board with it.
>>
A long time ago, when I was a kid, I watched a show called, "Science Court." Made by the same guy as "Dr Katz" and, "Home Movies."
Some of you may remember it. Others may not. It was fun. At the end of each episode, they would have a "word of the day."

I remember one episode specifically. The word of the day.
Ladies and gentlemen:
"Cantankerous."
>>6479989
>>6479986
>>6479981
>>6479972
>>6479952
>>6479909
>>6479888
>>6479909
>>6479866
>>6479840
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>>6479731
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>>6480000
Nice. Please leave though if you don't want to follow the rules. That new board with have plenty of gets for you.
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>>6479953
>>I'd adhere to the styled part more than the western drawn, but now that an entire board exists I think both belong in the new board since the mod says that is the home. makes sense to me

>>6479966
well I dont have much to say other than...
>>6479967
50%
>>6479986
you stated
>>6479990
alzhymers

there you go.
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>>6479999
You dislike the rules.
No one is forcing you to go to 4chan.
It's selfish to walk into someone else's board and disregard their rules just because you don't like them or you think they're unfair.
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>>6480017
>I'd adhere to the styled part more than the western drawn, but now that an entire board exists I think both belong in the new board since the mod says that is the home. makes sense to me
You realize this was not posted by me, the person who posted:

>>6479990
This.

So.
I'm still waiting.
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>>6480017
ALSO.

>50%
Nah.
I'd say closer to 10% is eastern style.

By the way.
Still waiting on a reply to:
>>6479992
>>6479954
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>>6480028
>I'd say closer to 10% is eastern style.
God damn it, I meant western.
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>>6479972
it will be moderated differently now because A: the mods made a statment on /aco/ regarding western artists IE the origin of art being western makes it belong there. a mod came on to /d/ and warned that it would be enforced. the rule allows entirely for that interpretation. indeed its the most logical interpretation of the words, assuming the rule writer is competant, albiet which may not be the case. that is why i think it will change from the way it was before: unenforced.

>>6480001
thats not really my problem. the guy in question was responding to a post that was a direct response to you. and what you said was the entire context of my reply. he replied to it withou taking that into any consideration (surprising I know, Not like ANYONE ELSE in this thread has ever done that yet)
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>>6479999
>walk into someone else's virtual clubhouse
>they don't serve your favorite flavor of kool aid
>throw a shit fit
LITERALLY SELFISH
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>>6480023
it is not selfish any more than if I do the same to some rich persons estate. this is not a justifcation for the rules, but you cannot ascribe a moral value to it like selfish when it doesn't belong, because the rules themselves are not inherently fair. the most you can say is it lacks courtesy or shouldn't be allowed. but I already fucking went over how 80% of 4chan would be banned right of the bat if rule 3 where enforced for real.
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>>6480035
>A: the mods made a statment on /aco/ regarding western artists IE the origin of art being western makes it belong there. a mod came on to /d/ and warned that it would be enforced. the rule allows entirely for that interpretation. indeed its the most logical interpretation of the words, assuming the rule writer is competant, albiet which may not be the case. that is why i think it will change from the way it was before: unenforced.

The rule is identical to the way it's always been. This rule has not changed. (This is not the first time you were told this.)
The posting of the rule, verbatim, has happened on /d/ before, with a sticky. The enforcement was based on style OR artist, but not BOTH as a requirement, has occurred in the past.

Literally:
This exact same thing has happened in the past.
Guess how it was enforced.
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>>6480043
>it is not selfish any more than if I do the same to some rich persons estate
Then it's selfish. It doesn't matter if the person is rich or poor, it's their property and their rules to do what they want with THEIR property.
> this is not a justifcation for the rules
It is. The owner can set whatever rules they like and if you break them you are 100% at fault for breaking them and you're a jerk for going to someone else's property and demanding that they change their rules for their house to suit you. That's. Selfish. The rules suit the owner.

>lacks courtesy
Right, selfish.
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>>6480037
>>be here for litterally years breaking a rule
>>90% of people also break it
>>some guy comes up and says we're selfish for breaking it
yeah no. western artists on /d/ haven't hurt anyone but the most selfish of twats who can't handle the idea that their art doesn't come from the direct hand of an inspired by the lord sky wizard east asian.

most of 4chan does not follow its own rules. pretty much everyone in this thread has violated one rule or another in your quest to tell me I'm a bad selfish anon for breaking rules. I'm not even advocating that rules should be broken. but rather, explaining the reality to a deluded few who can't comprehend the environment they sit in is not one invested with a vast respect for authority or order. and every time like clockwork a retard like you insist I'm selfish for spending my time trying to educate you on this reality, at expense to myself.
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>>6480051
>>selfish
>>concerned with the self
>>stealing to give to other people than yourslf is selfish
you are a fucking retard. go back to kindergarden and learn english again. there are plenty of insults in the sea, crying like a little retarded shit becuase the one you threw like monkey poo doesn't stick is a level beyond pathetic I;m not able to quantify
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>>6480045
>>durr the rule hasn't changed
oh so its this retard again. I already told you exactly why things have changed. you ironically didnt pay any attention to your own posts. or perhaps you did and where just so stupid you thought you where debunking me by repeating exactly what I said

>>enforcement was based on style or artist
>>but not both.
in other words is an enforcement was based on artist and not style, as "not BOTH" would imply, something would be being deleted for being drawn by a westerner. which was exactly my arguement.

on the other hand if your arguement is that this has not ever changed, then you are factually wrong as half of /d/ still exists.

the only concievable option that ends with you disagreeing with me here is if you fucked up somehow.
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>>6480054
>appealing to tradition ("in b4 I don't have to logic")
But, yes, you are selfish for breaking someone's rules that they set on their site.

It isn't your site, is it? Do you pay for it?
No?
Then ...doesn't that mean the OWNER gets to set the rules?

>>6480059
Pardon me.
I thought you were replying to the other post.
about how going to someone else's property and bitching about the flavor of kool aid is selfish. It is.

Likewise, going to someone's website and bitching about and not obeying their rules is selfish. You are conflating your actions, that is, breaking the rules on a 4chan, something you don't need to do to live or even to enjoy your fetish, with something noble, to steal to help someone survive and thrive.

The two are not related.
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>>6480067

>durr the rule hasn't changed
It hasn't. The rule is the same now as it has always been. Engage or shut up. The rule hasn't changed and I have proven it. Time and time again.

>in other words is an enforcement was based on artist and not style, as "not BOTH" would imply, something would be being deleted for being drawn by a westerner. which was exactly my arguement.
Unless it was drawn in "hentai" or "anime" style.

" A: the mods made a statment on /aco/ regarding western artists IE the origin of art being western makes it belong there. a mod came on to /d/ and warned that it would be enforced. the rule allows entirely for that interpretation. indeed its the most logical interpretation of the words, assuming the rule writer is competant, albiet which may not be the case. that is why i think it will change from the way it was before: unenforced."
Can I see this statement for myself.
Was it a statement of their own or a reiteration of the rule?
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>>6480069
>>But, yes, you are selfish for breaking someone's rules that they set on their site.
see
>>6480059
you fucking retard

>>durr the two are not related
they are related, in so far as they are perfect examples of unselfish behavior. their other moral implications are fucking irrelevant, because selfish behavior is primarily concerned with what the self wants. your remark on the kool aid was fucking bullshit, because your entire premise is based on the logic that someone is invading your space and shitting up the place when we pretty much own the place, and you're showing up and saying "no no no all this has to go" after a leave of years of enforcement. and for no reason other than fuck us, you don't want anything drawn by someone outside of east asia on this board.
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>>6480069
>complains about appeals to tradition
>immediately follows with an appeal to authority
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>>6480078
>we pretty much own the place
And this is the crux of your argument.
You feel self entitled.

You don't own the place.
At all.
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>>6480077
>>can i see this statment for myself?
are you incapable of remembering things that occured within a days time?
I not only told you where you can find it, it's fucking obvious where you would look to begin with.

I've all but quoted it verbatim, going as far as to use the language used by the moderator in the post specifically. even editing what my instintual word choice is to make sure the word choice is consistant as much as I can between being dumbfounded at yours and others selfish fuckery and stupidity.
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>>6480086
no stupid, the crux of your arguement is that you own the place, thats why this shameless post of the coolaid involved me arriving "here" and bitching about something that wasn't to my liking, as opposed to this place being to my liking, and then someone started bitching about how the coolaid was not like the rules said.

in other words, you are full of shit and I was taking the piss out of your retarded false premise.
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>>6480085
An appeal to authority would have more weight if I was arguing a rule that everyone was forced to abide by in public and in society.

However, this is not the case. 4chan is not a right. It's a privilege. I am pointing out that 4chan and setting its rules is the right of the owner. And it is our PRIVILEGE to be here and post at all, and acting like we have a RIGHT to it is SELFISH, when the owner does all the work and pays all the upfront costs, and as users, we do none of that.
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>>6480090
IF IT'S SO SELF EVIDENT SIMPLY REPEATING IT IS PAINLESS.
GO LINK TO IT. IT WON'T HURT YOU.
FOR FUCK'S SAKE DON'T BE A BRAT.
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>>6480100
just because we aren't considering what the owner wants doesn't imply we are only thinking about what we ourselves would like. and if you respected this rule as much as you insist is selfish not to do so, you would not even be discussing this shit because meta threads are against the rules.
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>>6480105
>>MOOOOOOOOM, GET ME SOMETHING FROM THE FRIDGE
>>"its two feet away, just get up and get it"
>>"MOOOM YOURE A BRAT"

get up and get it yourself you fucking brat, its about time you learn to hold the weight of a spoon and draw it up towards your lazy fucking mouth.
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>>6480108
Fine, a better word is inconsiderate.
You are being _inconsiderate_.

I don't see why the need for splitting hairs since the same negative connotation applies.
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>>6480111
Are you familiar with what "onus" is?

That means burden of proof.
And it rests on your shoulders.

In this case, I'm going to ASSUME that you're talking about the sticky where the mod just repeated the rule verbatim.

Which I ask, why, the big problem, when that rule has been there forever?
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>A: the mods made a statment on /aco/ regarding western artists IE the origin of art being western makes it belong there. a mod came on to /d/ and warned that it would be enforced.
They made three in fact.
There's two stickies right now.
you're going to have to be...
GASP!
Specific!
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>>6480113
I agree, i dont see why you where so stuck on insisting on one fucking word either when it would take no effort to use a more accurate adjective.

we are not considering or putting much weight on someones opinion or feelings; inconsiderate. now I want you to wander around this site and ask yourself how many people here do that. 4chan is not a site where consideration rules supreme. it is a fucking madhouse. the only reason we see you bitching about me being inconsiderate is you and a posse of people with as much time to waste as I do, happen to disagree with me weather a certain rule should be enforced. the reality is all of you have broken the rules just by talking about this. that is a fact. but that thought does not weigh on your minds, you do not care about that. this thread is against the rules. but you are in here posting it and contributing to it. and the mods haven't even bothered to delete it despite posting in it IE noticing its existance.

its because the rules, while an important part of 4chan, are selective. theya re not amajor part of the sites function. they are mostly there as an ace in the hole for the mods and what rules are enforced is a big deal to the community.
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>>6480111
>>6480077
>>>/aco/86
>Please post Eastern style content on the appropriate board
>Eastern style content on the appropriate board
>Eastern style content
>Eastern style
>Eastern
>Style
EAT SHIT
EAT SHIT
EAT ALL THE SHIT.
DRINK IN THE SHIT.
DRINK IT IN.
STOP POSTING FOREVER AND EAT SHIT.
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>>6480128
>but that thought does not weigh on your minds, you do not care about tha
Because that's a logical fallacy and not relevant?
What rules I may or may not have broken don't change what's true or not?
If I state that solid is a state of matter, does that stop being true if suddenly I were to commit a burglary?
No?
ARGUMENTS DO NOT CHANGE BASED ON THE CHARACTER, CRIMES OF THE CHARACTER, OR WHAT THE CHARACTER HAS DONE BECAUSE THEY ARE IRRELEVANT TO THE ARGUMENT.
STOP BRINGING UP TU QUOQUE ARGUMENTS.

"YOU TOO HAVE BROKEN THE RULES!"
INDEED I HAVE, THAT DOES NOT PUT A HOLE IN AN ARGUMENT. THAT DOESN'T STOP AN ARGUMENT'S SOUNDNESS.

>its because the rules, while an important part of 4chan, are selective.
THE RULES ARE SELECTIVE BECAUSE THAT IS UP TO THE MODERATORS AND ADMINISTRATION TO CHOOSE HOW AND WHEN THEY ARE ENFORCED. THE MODERATION AND ADMINISTRATION RESERVES THE RIGHT TO BE UNFAIR. IT'S THEIR FUCKING SITE, NOT YOURS. CAPSLOCK. FOREVER. STOP BEING HERE IF YOU DISLIKE IT. IT'S NOT
UNFAIR" BECAUSE YOU CAN LEAVE AND STOP SUBJECTING YOURSELF TO THE RULES AT ANY TIME. ANY COMPULSORY RULE IS DEFACT NON COMPULSORY BECAUSE YOU ARE WILLINGLY PARTICIPATING IN 4CHAN BY CHOOSING TO BE HERE AND CHOOSING TO BE HERE IS A PRIVILEGE. LITERALLY, IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT, LEAVE. THE RULES DON'T FOLLOW YOU ON THE WAY OUT. YOU ARE CHOOSING TO SUBJECT YOURSELF TO THE RULES.
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I just realized one major reason why /aco/ isnt going to work.

/d/ is the home of futa-fags.
Without /d/ allowing western art, /aco/ is going to be flooded with futa. Its one of the reasons why /d/ was made.
Other boards can't cant handle all our chick dick!

I'm already seeing some newfags on /aco/complainign that futa should go back to /lgbt/
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>>6480142

It's the reason 4chan as a whole has never worked: Rulemakers are incompitent.
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>>6480142
/aco/ has bigger traffic, they'll just push it off

The problem is /aco is full of /co which essentially heavily dislike the part of /d forced to go to /aco.
Shit ensues because there's no community, just dumbfuck competing for thread space.
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>>6480142
I'm waiting for the arguments over style vs. source, and whether or not certain styles count as one or the other.
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>>6480128
>now I want you to wander around this site and ask yourself how many people here do that.
And to FINALLY address this:
It depends on the board. The assumption that, "it's 4chan, I have to be an asshole" ruins 4chan. Believe it or don't, your choice, not all boards run like this, and, there was a time when pretty much ALL boards barring /b/ ran like this. And even then;
there was a time when /b/ was anime random.

So to answer your question?
Quite a few people are considerate.
Is /d/ considerate? Depends on the thread. And a lot of times, I would say, YES.
Now onto /aco/:
/aco/ was made for /co/. Ever been to /co/? No? I didn't think so. Ever heard the saying "/co/ is love"? Of course you haven't, of course not. That's ok. I can forgive that. See, not long ago, /co/ was a really, REALLY friendly board. In fact parts of it still are. They turned into a witch hunt against SJWs, but, as long as you aren't one, that's not a problem and there's still some really nice folks around. Unless you're an inconsiderate asshole.

Back to the original point:
Due to the enforcement of the new rule, you'll be forced onto /aco/ for your western porn...
Full of people from /co/. Who tend to dislike inconsiderate dicks.
Food for thought.
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>>6480152
Well I think the /aco/ traffic will calm down, and even if it doesnt I still think it will need to be broken down into seperate western boards for the same reasons /h/ did i.e. futas and gays
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>>6480167
>>6480164
>Due to the enforcement of the new rule, you'll be forced onto /aco/ for your western porn...

And due to /aco/'s rules, it'll be forced off there too. Everything's going fine an then the mods fuck everyone's shit up. Welcome to 4chan, I guess.
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>>6480177
You know this reminds me of something.

>We can't post furry on /d/, it's against the rules
>the only place we can post furry people are allowed to troll and be nasty and post guro and be jerks
>It's..it's like you're trying to say something! If ...If I didn't know better, I'd say that moot hates furries or something!
Fastforward ...
>/aco/
>Only allowed to post western on /aco/
>even there, you're not allowed to post alternative porn
>If I didn't know better...
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>>6480186

Yes, I'm sure moot hates everyone in the western hemisphere who has drawn a penis on a female. Furry has a reason for being banned (that they take over comminuties), which western alternative doesn't have (outside of making you /jp/ wannabes mad).
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>>6480203
>Furry has a reason for being banned
Yes.
Because he dislikes them immensely and it was his site when he founded it so he made it a rule.
That was the primary reason.
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>>6480211

Except it wasn't.
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>>6480203
>western alternative
There is no western alternative.
This is adult cartoon (/aco/)

>>6480215
Entirely true my friend.
Though I suppose I could concede that may not have been the primary reason, it was a big one.

Since moot has then and always has hated furries.
This is not up for contention as he has stated it many, many times.
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>>6480218

If that was the only criteria for him banning it, there'd be a lot of board that would have never existed. There's a reason furry was singled out for not just a ban, but April /fur/'s day: Because it destroys communities. I'm sure hating them (like anyone else) made that extra sweet, but it's not the primary reason.

>There is no western alternative.

Then what is it we're banning?
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>>6477733
Give it two weeks.
>>6477801
Nah, I was already a degenerate long before I found this board.
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>>6477963
This anon gets it.
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>>6478115
/cm/ and /y/ could be united. But /hm/ should stay away since that's 3D.
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>>6480137
>>what rules I may or may not ahve broken have no bearing on weather or not you are wrong.
but they do, because they describe perfectly the behavior you think is soffocating this board, and the very people complaining about it are just as guilty. ergo, your motivation as a person can not be to make sure that the mods and the owners get their due because you are actively disobeying their expressed wishes. your arguement is that I am coming in here bitching about the coolaid, but again, the cool aid is the way it is already. you are the ones bitching about the cool aid. we're bitching about it changing. you have no moral high ground that you've blatantly tried to assert for the last hour, calling me selfish and a terrible person.

the arguement has always firmly been centered around the value of breaking a rule, at what point does stepping over the line constitute an infraction. the answer will always be murkey, but when a twat like you comes in and tries to pull the equivelent of saying "Everyone who drives 70 on the free way is a terrible person forever" anyone with sense can feel assured in telling you to fuck off.
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>>6480164
>>its 4chan I must be an asshole
no dumbshit, but rather, its 4chan, so trying to act like you're above someone because they broke a rule in the spirit of sharing content with people is only slightly less retarded than calling that person a terrible, cruel, and selfish person, who shouldn't be here in the first place and needs to get the fuck out. its not only inundated in hypocracy, but also in the interest of fairness is telling almost the entire site that they need to leave.

its pathetic and stupid.
and no, no board is not full of assholes waiting for you to step out of line. boards have berserk buttons everywhere. people in those boards flagrantly break the rules as well.

>>youre going to be forced on /aco/
I will do everything in my power not to have content meaninglessly be segregated by who drew the content. odds are, there is no getting along with /aco/ for pretty much the reasons specified by these two >>6480142
>>6480152
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>>6478075
Don't forger Mass Effect.
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>>6479320
>Or send it off to /b/

Did you ever lurk in the Xeno threads? There was always lots of on-topic content, interesting writefags and more than a few drawfags showing up for free OC all at the same time. There's absolutely no way that's going to work on /b/.

You've essentially banished one of the more interesting and pleasant parts of /d/ because you're grasping for an arbitrary and outdated rule that few people seem to support.
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>>6479359
>tyranny by the majority.

Holy shit you're serious? This board has never had a shortage of eastern content, ever. You're not going to lose any of it no matter the decision, but you're fine with exiling half the board based on subjective tastes.

This isn't tyranny of the majority because you occasionally had to see things that don't jel with your feefees. If anything, this is a tyranny of a minority.
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>>6479450
Dmitrys old style had some eastern influences in it. There's none of that now.

Also, why the fuck were they willing to bend over for one drawfag but now that we have lots of them (almost completely western) further accommodations cannot be made?
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>>6480422

It's not even that, it's tyranny of a ruler and a bunch of serf trying to dicksuck their way into the court. The worst part is Sir Modsalot isn't willing to even discuss it with the people of the board and King Hiro is hard to get a hold of.
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>>6477895
Ironic shitposting is still shitposting.
>>
Oh man I'm sure glad that my slow porn board that has most of my fetishes has been split into "150 different flavors of futa" and "Homesuck, Korra and Kaa: no monstergirls allowed edition"! Thank you based mods for this awesome change!
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>>6480475

Don't forget all the stuff that's too extreme for /aco/ but isn't drawn by MUH GRORIOUS NIPPON just falling through the cracks because Mr. H. Pocket wants to throw his considerable weight around.
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>>6480430
Not seeing it.
Dmitrys' drawing style is essentially the same, his faces have not changed one bit (dare I say, he has a worse case of sameface than Incase).

The biggest changes are that his females and futa have much more muscles, and the coloring style, which is "oilier" now. Is that supposed to be non-eastern?
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>>6478369
>Western is shit
You're fucking deluded, case in point the attached picture is drawn better than a vast majority of Eastern art.

The only difference between Eastern and Western is if you want a nose or not.
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>>6480491
m8 I like western art, but the only thing that looks good here is the latex.
I'd post something nice, but I don't wanna be banned for something that would be accepted 48 hours ago.
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>>6480489
There's nothing eastern at all about stuff like >>6464720 anon.
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>>6480495
My point is that things like http://rule34.paheal.net/post/view/67542 aren't any more eastern.
Basically the rule has always been "post stuff that doesn't suck".
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>>6480502
Conflating western art with things that suck is tired old weeb shit anon and that's the only way the "no western," rule in reality exists as "post stuff that doesn't suck."

Either the rules need to say posting terrible quality stuff is bad or no western. Can't have it both ways.
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>>6480495

Besides the artist being from an eastern country? And no, moving does not suddenly change his status as an easterner, much the same as under this rule any /d/ works Da Hooch/ShindoL would make would be disallowed, as he is a Westerner now matter how long he lives in Japan.

>>6480509

The trouble is, how do you police taste? Is it just "Report anything too low of quality" (where it would then be abused to fend off threads people don't like)? I agree but can't come up with any feasable way to impliment that. On the other hand, if it means not having to split /d/ this board and the /d/ community, I'd rather have nearly anything.
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>>6480509
But I agree.
I think there's a definite need for a western drawn porn board, they just also don't need to enforce the no western rule, as they have for fucking years now.

Having overlap is not a bad thing. /v/, /vr/ and /vp/ all share content, but they have different communities.
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>>6480518

This.

/d/ works just fine with both hemispheres contributing, whereas /h/ has been very strict over the years about keeping western out. A western /h/ is needed, a western /d/ isn't because it's proven to work as a multicultural board. I say it's because, at the heart of things, /d/ is about the things that may other boards don't want, we're sort of the "scraps", but in a way we're also the place where people can be a bit more honest with themselves and be freer.

It's not about the origin, it's about the fetishes and the freedom to converse about them. I haven't slept in forever so this is probably rambling as fuck, but I hope the important part is coherent at least.
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>>6480514
Well one, Russia isn't eastern. European Russia is very western and the country as a whole inhabits both spheres.

Two; there are plenty of people in this very thread saying the criteria for banning content is style, not origin, so it wouldn't matter if you considered Russia eastern to begin with if Dmitrys style doesn't have anything to do with said eastern styles.
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>>6480529

>Russia isn't eastern
>well over half of it is asian

Also there's plenty of people in this thread saying plenty of things with the mod only saying something vague as fuck. Then again, if a Japanese artist has a western style and this disallows their work, that's just as imbecilic as anything else this rule re-enforcement could mean.
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>>6480537
Come on anon, I mentioned European Russia for a reason and then mentioned the rest being shared between spheres. The Russian enclaves in Asian Russia don't magically become eastern based on geography. Styles aren't determined by that.
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>>6478430
IT BEGINS.
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>>6477843
Dimitri is Russian, Russians are asian. Dimitri's art is eastern art. Jesus man, go back to school.
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>>6479166
>ENFORCEMENT OF THE RULE IS NOT NEW
Previous enforcement was often down to the quality of the images, lots of western stuff went deleted because it was of high quality.

>>6477901
This, many threads benifit from western content being allowed, so long as the western images are of decent quality whats the beef?

>>6477895
why would a jap that can hardly speak english take ownership of an english imageboard.
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>>6480560
>Russians are asian

No, they're not. They're culturally European and that's where a majority of the country lives, in Europe. There are Asian Russians, but geography and country of origin don't determine style.
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>>6477818
this
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>>6480568
>Previous enforcement was often down to the quality of the images, lots of western stuff went deleted because it was of high quality.
The rule was enforced strictly before;
see 12', 10', and earlier.
There are tons of mod posts saying exactly that.
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>>6480422
>feefees
Post disregarded.
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>>6480589
Be honest anon, you were going to disregard that no matter what, you were just looking for a convenient excuse to.
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>>6477684
So much this. I hope with /aco/, the no westshit rule starts getting enforced again.
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>>6480590
The board split was inevitable and so was the friction.
To be honest, this board split is the best thing that happened to both sides.

Why aren't you happy?
You're getting exactly what you wanted.
You never have to talk to all those weebs you hate ever again.
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>>6480600
The mods say they intend to.
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>>6480604
Because I cared about the community here?

In all the years of sharing content, dumping updates from Dmitrys site and the like, contributing to threads full of both eastern and western content that would pull in competent writefags to flesh out fantasies and drawfags looking to practice, get their name out and indulge in the inanity did I ever suspect there was this undercurrent of brimming hatred.

I was too distracted by sharing stuff I liked with like-minded people who never seemed to care all that much about where the stuff they were fapping to came from but that it was there and that others were enjoying themselves. I was too busy tracking down sources for inquiring anons or searching my extensive folders for more of what someone expressed an interest in.

But no. I see I was wrong. The distaste and animosity was apparently just under the surface waiting for any excuse to burst forth.

You have your hentai board back. I just hope it was worth the community in the process.

I hope the sacrificing of what seemed to be one of the nicest boards, most open to discussion and sharing is worth it. Not counting the fetishes that will fall through the cracks (xeno fans have nowhere to go), there will still be western and eastern boards, but the community is dead.

I guess I should be surprised a board I thought was one of the best turns out to be nothing more than just another shit fest on this forsaken website, but I'm used to disappointment by now.
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>>6478154
>there's just an intrinsic difference of quality expected

Yes, this 'quality' is payed-for homogeneous cookie cutter caricatures with different wigs on versus literally everything else.
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Mods please ban general threads while you are at it, worst thing to ever happen to this board.
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>>6480604
Now that;s a load of bull the was never a friction other then a very vocal minority.
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>>6480604
The problem is that /aco/ is a western /h/ not a western /d/.
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>>6480587
yea no. it wasn't. just because a mod post says so doesn't reflect how much actual attention they give
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>>6477895
You do realize that if we separate /d/ in east and west, so many of the fetishes and kinks here will lose proper content flow, don't you? /aco/ is plenty crowded without /d joining in
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Guess all the /d/eviants have to go and leave the board for the /d/weebs.
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>>6480620
Amen to that. I don't get it why we can't just be practical about things and go with what works, but apparently a lot of people around here are obsessed with fucking other people's shit up for no good reason. Oh well, it was nice while it lasted.
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>>6478038
Technically yes but the thread will be full of bitching about it. A lot of people thought /aco/ would serve as the western equivalent to /h/, not just all western porn.
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>>6477874
It's looking that way. All the while hoping that your fetish's thread on this board, now diluted in postable content, isn't quickly bumped off the board by the dozens of futa threads.

The response to which will be even more reposting of the same content over and over and over again in every thread, just to keep it active, despite regulars not particularly wanting to see or post it so often. But that's the future that Hiroyuki seems to have chosen for us.
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>>6480923
Which causes people to get annoyed at you, which drives more bad feelings and shitposting.

Fuck me, if this is what Hiro's 4chan is like, then I fear for the future.
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>>6480937
>>6480923
its far more likely this is a mods decision. but its possible it could be hiro i guess. mods have a long history of getting autistic over a single type of thing regardless of what the community thinks, like the nazi mod on /tg/
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>16 threads in one day

enjoy you dead board
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>>6477895
>causing a schism on the only board for obscure/niche fetishes because of an arbitrary rule that's been lackadaisically enforced from the get-go
>/d/ content being banned from /aco/
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/d/ more like /d/ead

>>6480990
>former /co/ janitor
what you're doing is against the rules
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I don't know why we're being invaded by /jp/ (or possibly /h/), but whoever it is needs to go and stay go.
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WAH WAH WAH

They just doubled the size of /d/ by adding /aco/

OH the HORROR
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>>6481035
>[Deleted]
lel
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>>6481035
>>6480990
I TOLD YOU DOG
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>>6481111
>doubled the size
And spread what was in /d/ all over that double size. It didn't increase content, it took it away.
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>>6481111
>If I cut something in half I have TWICE the amount because there are now two objects

Division ain't multiplication bro
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What would have been the harm in asking us if we wanted to do this in the first place?
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/aco/, like all the other boards, sees /d/ as the containment board for extreme fetish shit like vore, dickgirls, etc and the majority there seems to want /h/: /co/ edition

/d/ wants to use aco as it's western art containment board


Problem: Both boards are trying to push western style fetish art off their board.


There's only a few ways this can play out

1. /d/ gives and becomes the "Alternative porn" board, and everyone crying over the no western rule now has to shove it

2. /aco/ gives and gets drowned in fetish, becoming a shitty /d/. Those of you who have no intention of useing /aco/ won't give a shit, but since that's also supposed to be /co/'s containment board for NSFW this presents other problems to other boards as well.

3. /fet/ happens and we get a new fetish board that allows ALL fetish art, and would likely also allow photography, smut writing (PDF uploads enabled, perhaps) etc. And that becomes the defacto place for western cartoon fetish art, and you could also have fetish generals like all bbw real and drawn, for example. I think that's the solution with the least drama.
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Anime style art originated in the US: the folks out east just do it really really well. Eastern origin art would be more along the lines of he-gassen. So, frankly, everything on this board is western (except this picture- I'm the only one following the rules).
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>>6481157
I'd prefer 1 but I'm down with 3 except without photography.
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>>6481157
>dickgirls
>extreme fetish

niceme.me

/aco/ won't be drowned in fetishes only popular ones like futa have a chance to survive there, the rest will stay here.
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/h/ = hentai = perverted content

Then some very small minded asshats decided perverted content in /h/ meant sex in the missionary position, between 1 man & 1 woman with the lights off only.

New generation same tired old christian puritan logic.
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>>6481157

>/d/ wants to use aco as it's western art containment board

Correction: The mod wants us to want to use /aco/ as it's western art containment board.

1 Is undoubtably the best option, as it preserves the community that's been built up here, without the subtraction of being spread across the site AND without the addition of actual photography, which would radically change the board.

Although a real-life /d/ board could be something to look into in and of itself (and if I'm wrong and people want it, they could merge then).
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>>6477801

I REGRET NOTHING !! *splash*
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>>6481187
/d/ has become the last active board used as a home for things banned from all other actively moderated boards.

prime example: over 2 years of a fetlife hook up for sex thread >>6446090
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>>6481196
As long as people are posting images to go with their inane questions what's the harm? Are you that much of a munchkin that people having fun in a way you don't approve of is a problem?
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>>6481196

>People shouldn't be allowed to discuss things while they enjoy their pornography

Is this your first day on /d/?
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>>6481172
The "hentai = japanese porn" fuckup happened long, long before 4chan was a thing.
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>>6481214
Being to lazy to keep a thread active on the board where it belongs does not automatically make something qualify as /d/ material.
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>>6481231

>BDSM doesn't belong on /d/
>And if you post something on /d/ you're forbidden from conversing with anyone else in the process of doing so
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>>6481258
Please stop playing stupid.

Advertising a specific web site used to hook up for sex has been banned on 4chan for years. So obviously a mod is a member of your little group and actively shielding it from rule enforcement.
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>>6481264

I don't even go to that thread, m8. You're the one dragging it in here and yelling shit about people using a thread to do things other than dump porn.

And if that was entirely true, then /soc/ as a board wouldn't even be around. As far as I can tell, that FetLife thing is nothing more than a community hub where you CAN hook up, but also use it to converse normally and plan other kinds of fetish events and share fetish information.

At the very least, if I'm wrong, then maybe the mod is also unfamiliar with this and you should explain it to them more clearly when reporting it.
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>>6481258
>wow! a thirty year old virgin actually exists.
Fuck yeah. Planning for double wizard, actually.

They get awesome dental coverage.
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>>6481157
I can live with 1
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>>6481272
so why is the fetlife thread not on /soc/ where it belongs
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Any reason why nobody bothered asking this board if they thought this was a good idea or are we just supposed to suck the mod's dick because they say so?
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>>6481317
>Any reason why nobody bothered asking this board if they thought this was a good idea
When did they ever?
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>>6481289

I guess the people of that thread are okay with it being there and have never been told it's not.
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>>6481327
Actually the were deleted, with warnings and bans for months, until they started begging people to post random /d/ related images just to stop the deletions.
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>>6481343

Huh, didn't know that.

Maybe the mod should be more worried about that then than removing quality content from the board.
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>>6479151
>Meanwhile /aco/ is growing like hell
The trial board that's been up for less then 24 hours has traffic, what a fucking surprise.
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>>6477895
There is no need to do that, western shit is usually fine all this board needs is quality control in a couple of the threads.
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>>6478691
For every terrible gook drawing, I could find you 10 worse western ones. The problem isn't with western shit in itself. Stuff like Dmitrys and InCase are generally ok. The problem comes from the fact that for every one of the ok drawings comes 100 completely shit ones.
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>>6481363
too late, faggots (or possibly just one overzealous, lone faggot living in a basement) cropping up in every thread asking for western to go away with so much condescension I just bled the excess disdain out of my fucking eyes.
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>>6481373
That's a completely subjective observation and you know it.
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>>6477895
This is a terrible decision, if you browsed here for a day you would understand why. You're ripping off half the community and forcing it down normies throats.
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>>6481157
>everyone crying over the no western rule now has to shove it
They had years to get their shit together and enforce this rule. YEARS. And they didn't. They have no one to blame but themselves.
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>>6481503
Better late than never.
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>>6481151
it would mean the mods don';t get to delete posts at their whimsy.
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>>6481554
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>>6477895
/d/ead
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>Mod says that only quality eastern art is allowed
>allows non-quality eastern art to go unpunished
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>>6481590
Then report it.
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>>6481599

I did. It wont' do anything because the mod is so fucking worthless that even with him doing it for free he's still being way overpaid.

>>6481603

Quoting so it can be seen despite the faggot mod's wishes.
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Reading through this thread I'm observing that most people seem to support the existence of /aco/ but consider it would be better for /d/ to retain some exclusive western alternative content.

I think that's fair because /aco/ main purpose is to contain all the r34 ( ben ten, frozen, LoL, Dota, futurama etc) spill on every nsfw boards.

I don't think obscure fetishes like the one on /d/ will be able to stay alive without eastern art supporting it.
A lot of those threads will reach page 10 before enough content has been collected.
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The reason why /ACO/ is happening is because 80% of the anime fags are control freak autistics who regulate other people and the mods basically change the rules every time they feel like it on /d/. A good example of this internet norm is Fakku, where they even try to fucking censor incest porn regardless of what it actually contains. That' is what /d/ is, a water down version of fakku.

The sad reality is that /aco/ has better content than this board anyways: better art styles, original ideas, and less censorship. Japan censors its porn, so in a way, it's technically against the rules to post uncensored porn on /d/ or /h/ Enjoy your over commercialized circle jerk industry dictating what you should jerk off to instead of what you want really want.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Bl32n6-JXc
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>>6481624
>The sad reality is that /aco/ has better content than this board anyways: better art styles, original ideas, and less censorship

>Steal other boards' shit and call yourself king

Go fuck yourself and return to your furfag haven, /aco/
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>>6481611
Well then, either that eastern art you reported fits the mod's standards for being quality, or he's taking his time.
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>>6481613
This so much
Come on mods
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>>6481629
>Steal shit that would have resulted in a ban anyways.

More accurate.

And this board is more furfag because of all the non human vore anyways.
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What will be the actual difference between /h/ and /d/ now that all western art is banned?
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>>6481634

>Mod having standards

That was the joke, anon. He's removing quality content and allowing it to be replaced with non-quality content. Real big help there, dipshit.
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>>6481613
>We don't like Western art because it's shitty quality.
>But we'll take all teh good shit that Western art has to offer and not allow the rest of it.

Nah. Fuck off.
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>>6481642
Believe me, there are worse place than /d/ with even less standards.
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>>6481641
/h/ is still only straight vanilla. /d/ is tentacles and futas.
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>>6481647
It's not about keeping what's good or what's bad it's about what will take roots in /aco/ and what will not thrive because of the lack of content.

Just to make an exemple. Let's say insect/bugs/parasite threads are 65%eastern 35%western art.

This type of fetish will die on both sides because it's already a niche fetish. In this case everybody will lose because nobody on either side will be able to keep a thread up long enough to gather related content.
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>>6481641

/h/ won't be split into West and East Germany.

>>6481650

>It's not as bad as it COULD be

It's also not as good as it was. Your point?
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>>6481659
The Japanese have tons of that content. One just has to know where to find it.
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>>6481659
I'd like to believe that its time for you guys to start using the feedback site to complain about this violation of power. It's getting to the point where it's our only option, as purging is already taking place.
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>>6481659
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWdd6_ZxX8c

I don't see /aco/ dying out, but I can see /D/ dying out because it relies on Eastern content with patents and copyrights. Most of the /aco/ content is community made anyways.
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>>6481613
Fuck that. That's an inconsistent solution to what was an inconsistent problem. You can't have it both ways. If the mods want to get rid of western content then they should do it completely or not at all.
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>>6481663
It was just an example I don't know what fetish would be concerned by this issue but I'm quite sure it will happen to some of the one in /d/.
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>>6481664

There isn't one.

Hirohito doesnt' check /qa/ OR his twitter OR 4chan's twitter apparently, ebcause nobody can get in touch with him.

It's hopeless, place is dead, just let /jp/ piss all over the ashes and be done with it.
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>>6481663
Does it really even matter? Most of what is on /d/ is just reposts anyways since nobody would go to a Japanese site to get more fresh stuff. I don't have an issue with that if people want to do that, but it's what it is.
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>>6481671
>Most of what is on /d/ is just reposts anyways since nobody would go to a Japanese site to get more fresh stuff.
I do.
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I don't know about all this. So I guess I'll give it some time and see how things evolve.

But I'll certainly migrate to some other chans if I see the content quality deteriorate.
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>>6481659
Maybe the mods should have thought of that or asked the board for input before going off half-cocked.

/d/ wasn't a very good porn receptacle anyway. The reason anybody bothered coming here was for the community and that's /d/ead already.
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>>6481613
>/d/emona
/d/ doesn't deserve her.
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>>6481663
>>6481671

Now we're just reposting from a much smaller pool, which will get new content on a much rarer basis, with some sections only seeing anything more for months if ever again.

>>6481676

Look at the threads that have been posted since this one, it's already deteriorating. Plus what >>6481678 said, the community's been absolutely gutted.

>>6481682

Don't worry, the mod will kick her out soon enough.
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>>6481682
You know that she has a dick, right?
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>>6481678
I came for the futas and tentacles.

My more deeper fetish power levels haven't been awakened yet.
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>>6481689
Go for monstergirls.
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>>6481688

She's also not eastern so we won't see her again until this rape of nanking shit ends.
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>>6481695
I read the manga, and I watched the anime. The anime's not bad, actually. But currently, I'm still too much into hetero, homo of both gender, and the occasional tentacle-futa-sex with weird machine contraption phase.
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>>6481688
How the fuck would I know her name and not know that anon? Come the fuck on.

>>6481689
Guess what? The /d/rawfags in /d/emona's thread aren't even buying this shit. >>6479097

I say again. /d/ does not deserve her.
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>>6481668
i more meant as a hail mary that a higher up mod will do something about this shit.
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>>6481706

What makes you think the mod won't just stuff the rulebook up their ass too? Hiro's the only chance at actually talking to a reasonable human being.
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>>6481705
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>>6481711
Hiro created /aco/ because people had nowhere to go with a lot of content. It was requested a lot.

The funny thing is, /d/ can still change into a better board by creating it's own content, but that apparently isn't allow because it suddenly becomes "Western". So don't pull /aco/ down with you because you suck.
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>>6481703
>implying that there is only MonMusu no Iru Nichijou
MGQ: http://pastebin.com/xAVD9SSt
MGE: http://exhentai.org/g/859072/0b89498108/
Have fun.
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>>6481729
Thank you.
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>>6481737
Hyakki Yakou is also pretty decent.
http://exhentai.org/g/575364/5a81959bc7/
http://exhentai.org/g/612940/f044f06951/
http://exhentai.org/g/774921/0979c810b4/
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So, since half the board has been merged with the western porn board /aco/, why isn't this board then merged with the eastern porn board, /h/? It's the exact same thing that happened with that, so it only makes sense.
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>>6481750
This tbh I don't see why this board should stay as it is over some tentacle porn and futas
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>>6481750
Who knows. Perhaps they'll do that one day.

/aco/ is an experiment for now, anyway.
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I come on /d/ more for the fetish.
Art style is the least of my concerns when I style. I do have some quality standards.

But having to hop between 2 boards to dig for my fetish without the guarantee of finding them is just a hassle.
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>>6481772
fap*
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>>6481750
/h/ always was allergic to futa, tentacles and futa. Then other 'fucked up' things went with them.

/aco/ is going through the same bullshit. What kind of idiot thinks a western /h/ would accept /d/ when it was proven eastern /h/ wants nothing to do with it ?

They should have made a /deco/ as well, or not split /d/ in two. Right now it's complete halfassed bullshit that helps noone.
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>>6481772
You can cut down time by using the search feature.
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>>6481777

You could cut down time AND imrpove board quality by killing yourself.
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>>6481777
I don't have the physical time to check both boards (and since /aco shits on my tastes, I don't even like checking the threads). 'Cutting down time' is still twice the time I would have spent, half of it spent swimming in hateposts.

Fuck that.
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I'm already using catalog and filters.
It's pointless anyway since some of my fetish will probably disappear because of the split.
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>>6481792
Fetishes come in phases. You'll probably gain a few new ones, or rediscover a few old stuff that you like.
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>>6481795

How? Give me the plan, 'm eager and seething to get this shit fixed.
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I just wanted a board to share with other /d/eviants.
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>>6481801

That would require the ability to let something good happen, which isn't something that exists.
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/aco/ appeared after /qa/ made polls for making a new board.

I see many /d/enizen do threads on /qa/ complaining about what's happening.

So maybe we should first regroup and start something serious with a poll asking the right question.

And find credible solutions that would benefit both /aco/ and /d/.

Complaining won't solve anything we need to have credible argument to bring to the mods or Hiro.
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I've been on /d/ since very nearly the beginning of 4chan. This policy is no good. /d/ is for weird porn, regardless of art style. The intent of the no western rule was to keep out garbage art, but western art has on average improved a lot over the years (and certain fetishes are only properly represented by poor art, which is something we have to live with). Rule 3 should be removed, or maybe just replaced with "don't fill /d/ with shit art".

I guess that the new owner is busy and/or clueless, so the moderators should stop acting Lawful Stupid and just announce their intention to change policy now.
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Enjoy having the speed of /an/ guys.
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>>6481823

The w ay it is now just frankly makes no sense. It's not benefiting /d/ (mostof whom want the western back), it's not benefiting /aco/ (most of whom are wanting /d/ to leave), and it's destroying both boards a bit as chaos is reigning over both because of it.

Essentially, this i the same thing that got /d/ made in the first place: People posting /d/eviant porn in a place that didn't want it to the point where it got it's own board. Right now, people are posting /d/eviant porn in a place that doesn't want it, until eventually it gets moved back here for the health of that board, or a western /d/ gets made.

To split /d/ among east and west in and of itself is silly, as this board in particular isn't about origin but fetish. Very, very few people care about where their dickgirl comes from as long as it's good and they can fap to it. The creation of a western /d/ and eastern /d/ is just making one moderately populated board into two low-population boards with roughly the same userbase. In my opinion, that's redundant to the point of being a waste of resources, effort, and separates thigns that have no need to be separated.

The only true solution is to drop the hentai from Hentai/Alternative and just make it Drawn Alternative.
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>>6481823
One thing is clear, this thread is only here to contain the arguing.
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>>6481836
Wow. Didn't know that /vg/ would have so many posts per minute.
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>>6477662
Will we ever get a furry or loli board, all perhaps divided between straight, yaoi, yuri, and alternative?
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>>6481836

Where did we used to be?
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>>6481863
That's the recent traffic report. Aaaaand we're probably going down to /an/ level ( personal estimate )
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>>6481837
I wouldn't be against a purely alternative board.
I could stand the best and the worst of both western and eastern world because there would be so much more content.
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>>6481850
every thread on /vg/ acts as its own board and each thread rarely acknowledge eachother's existence.
that post speed is basically the combined post of 144 different mini boards but each mini board only gets like 3 posts an hour
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>>6481924
Truth
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>>6481613
>I think that's fair because /aco/ main purpose is to contain all the r34 ( ben ten, frozen, LoL, Dota, futurama etc) spill on every nsfw boards.

but it's not fulfilling that purpose
most of /co/s r34 is based on nick and cn shows meant for kids so the characters are under 18, but since loli is banned on /aco/ the ben ten and avatar threads will still have r34 in them because they can't go to /aco/
caturday is also not allowed on /aco/ and those caturday people are the people that bitched the most about making an adult /co/
/co/ also still wants to have cheesecake threads but can't since they belong /aco/ now

im reading posts on /co/ to get their opinion and it seems that they hate the regulation on /aco/

so its not relieving /co/ of of nsfw content (/co/ never really had a big problem with nsfw unlike /v/ or /a/) and its fracturing /d/ so now /d/ will become dead

its not solving any problems only creating them
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>>6481837
I'm tired of all the terrible western shit that gets posted, the difficulty of finding fetish art through a language barrier tends to act as a natural quality filter.
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>>6477895
as someone from /co/

oh god, why you guys are doing this?

it┬┤s just making everything worse.
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>>6482209

Enjoy your incoming terrible eastern shit then, I guess. It acted as a quality filter before because there was enough that people didn't need to forage. Now they do, and they'll be bringing back loads of low quality shit just to be able to have even the smallest amount of new content.
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The "No western rule" on /d/, /u/, and /y/ is clearly outdated.

Using the new board as an excuse to enforce the rule won't fix anything,.
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>>6481797
only thing I got is feedback. theres no reason not to give feedback to the 4chan mods, theres enough of us to make an impact, it wont be a sure win or even that likely, but theyre already deleting shit that belongs here, so its not like we have anything to lose.
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>>6482441

I can't find out where to submit feedback. Could you point me towards it please?
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>>6482451
its at the absolute bottom of every page of 4chan.
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>>6482458

Thanks, I guess my 4chanX config doesn't let it show up there. I submitted a little paragraph, if anyone else does I may as well jsut post the quick link: http://www.4chan.org/feedback
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>>6481823

The only credible solution really is the logical one:

/aco/ becomes /h/ for western characters
/d/ remains the same as always
Furry, loli, and guro are universal banned
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>>6482601
>Furry, loli, and guro are universal banned
They could just stay on /b/ like they have been for however long.
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>>6482610

Well not counting /b/, because anything goes there.

Just no opening the flood gates and allowing those things on the other boards, that's one rule that should remain intact without question.
>>
Have many of you tried postnig about this on /qa/? There's a couple threads up about it, and out of any random board it'd likely be the first one that Hiro wuold check.
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>>6482209
how is this board split make trolls crawl out of the woodwork?
I don't even remember seeing this elitism on /d/ sure 2d vs 3d as a joke between comrades, but not east vs west
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>>6477895
long live /d/ead

R.I.P.

yfw mods killed /d/
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>>6477684
>About fucking time. Please let this get 70% of all content out of /d/
ftfy
>>
Oh, so maybe some of you are slightly annoyed by western styles or characters. Better post things that will actually disgust the users of the wrong board. Makes perfect sense. Good job guys. Great little board you got here. If theres a western-alternative board created that's were you jump ship to or /b/. Stay the fuck off /aco/.
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>>6477928
so just go to a real chan site you weeaboo faggot if you're "so Japanese" you must be able to surf jap internet, you can read japanese right?
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>>6477985
This
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>>6478034
>monkeyface
>slanteyes
my sides
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>>6478214
I'm not into that but why not add it to this board? we glorious nipponese now! no grass means it's legal.
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>>6482275
People are lazy, it's much harder to search for "Henshin no Ham" in japanese then it is to go to deviant art and drag out the forever delitized guy.
>>
/aco/ here, I don't understand, you guys actually do want the weirder types of western art here?

What's the problem then?
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>>6483291
mods are the problem, they're banning us and telling us to go to /aco/ and then /aco/ tells us to get lost, it's a purge
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>>6483302
Why not just convince Hiroshima to remove the no-western rule?
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>>6483291
Mods are assholes that enjoy ruining the few good things left on this site.
>>
/d/eath is imminent
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>>6478672
>>6478664
I just tried!
Mods fucking deleted it!
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>>6478672
From the /qa/
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>>6482927
We had a good thing going guys.
Holy shit im actually a little sad right now.
>>
>hits bump limit first day
>2 days later not even on page 9
>tfw mods will never admit fault
Dead and obsolete
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>>6483291
>>What's the problem then?
The problem is that the mods of the two boards are not working together even they do not know how to handle this. We get stuff deleted on /d/ and told to go to /aco/ then on /aco/ we also get the same stuff deleted and told to gb2 /d/.

See the problem here?
>>
>>6483422
The solution is simple. Neither /d/ nor /aco/ wants western deviant art, so they'll have to go somewhere else.
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>>6483422
Yes, but that same thing was fine here on /d/ before this whole mess even started.
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>>6483443
meant for >>6483438
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>>6483438
/d/weeb pretending to speak for the other 76% percent who want porn here.

If its alternative it should be here.
>>
6 THREADS IN 12 HOURS AHAHAHHAHAHAH

daily reminder that you're the minority weebs
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>>6483438

>/d/ doesn't want western

This "/d/ is /jp/ with dicks" meme needs to end
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>>6483438
You fucking piece of shit. It's bad enough western art got kicked out of /d/ (because of people like you bitching) but now you're immediately saying we should get kicked out of the place YOU fuckers banned us to?

Eat a dick. Eat every dick on this board. Nothing will ever be good enough for you autistic babies.
>>
There shouldn't be a ban on western, there should be a ban on autists who try to start east/west flame wars
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>>6483463
>slow boards are gud
>opinion of /co/mblr infesting /u/
>>
See you again tomorrow thread.
And the next day.
And the next day.
And the next day.
And the next day.
And the next day.
>>
>>6483467
You could go to /b/
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>>6483495
enjoy your dead board
>>
>>6483495

You could go back to whatever shithole you come from, because you're clearly not from here.
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>>6483495
Moves too fast for art threads that need some level of longevity.
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>>6483467
>Eat a dick. Eat every dick on this board.
This is a fetish I came to /d/ for.
>>
>>6483489
And the next day.
And the next day.
And the next day.
And
The
Next
/D/ay
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>>6483511

Too bad, there's nothing here anymore.
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>>6483514
Enough futas to last a lifetime.
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So what's the ETA on this being reverted, I wonder? I'm betting...six weeks at the outside.
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>>6483517

Futa city: We sell futas, and that's all!
>>
>>6483500
>>6483511
So, what do you actually want? Be on a fast board, or be on a slow board?
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>>6483523
76% think its bullshit.
So long as they don't stop fighting the injustice I give it 2 months.
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>>6483531
Meant to quote >>6483504
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>>6483531
>>6483533
I just want 2-3 days ago /d/ back, and for the people raising all the unnecessary stink to be the ones to get removed.
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>>6483531
>implying there wasn't a middle that was r reached.
/b/ is terrible in community as well don't feel like seeing frog saying "get out /b/"
And Spidermans ever 3rd post
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>>6483531

Be on the board we were on before the mod shit the bed.
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>>6483472
This, pretty much.

The only difference between the boards, according to a mod post, is one of 'styles'... and that's a problem for a few reasons:

Ignore that big eyes, small mouth stems both from emulating popular post-war American styles like Disney and Warner's, and the need to develop a stylistic shorthand that gets shit on paper in volume and FAST. There is still a whole shitload of stylistic cross-pollination professionally, and among fans. That weird French stuff is, by weight, half Japanese.
This is a problem because we usually just get janitors in here-- and janitors are explicitly forbidden from using their judgment on moderation calls, which leads to ridiculous shit like evading a ban by photoshopping unicorn horns onto dogs that are fucking women, because that clearly makes it monster rape and not bestiality.
There's a lot of shit that gets posted here that straddles the line between distinctly eastern and western styles, and a lot of both that is frankly shit.

Weird porn is a small niche. Even with people mistaking it for /r/, or the futa-spammer from years by, even with infiltrations of western stuff, or /tg/ porn, /d/ is a slow-moving board. Splitting hairs just makes it and any boards it calves even slower and more likely to stagnate.
>>
>Page 8

This thread will never die. This board died.

This is your only chance, abandon your weeb ways and start posting on /aco/. They already won
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>>6483551
>being this much of a quitter
/aco/ is referred to as a trial board, in theory, there's still time to get the mods to fix everything. There'll always be time to give up if it becomes permanent, but until then, I will do what I can to raise awareness this is a terrible idea.
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>>6477838
better?
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>>6483559
Needs rice picker hat.
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>>6483568
Text also needs
"Consider the farrowing"
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>>6483576
>not writing in original moonrunes.
>not having the picture be black and white like glorious taiwanese tapestries
>not having speed lines to focus attention on character
Inferior gaijin scum not understanding superior nihongo culture
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>>6483559
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8a3gjt_Ar0
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>>6477895
/co/mrade here, we (or at least I) wanted adult comics, not Western /d/

>>6478626
Don't want their castoffs either
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>>6483546

It's time to find a new home I guess. It was great while it lasted. Thanks everyone.
>>
>>6483865
That said, I don't mind if we keep InCase in the divorce.
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>>6483546
>even with infiltrations of /tg/ porn

Believe me, most of us would have preferred to stay on /tg/, but... blue board, them's the rules.
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>>6483869
Fuck off, you get all west /d/ or none.
Choose none.
>>
>>6483513
And the next day.
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>>6477895
well you killed our board
now i'm going to kill your family
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>>6484083
/d/ is his family.
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>>6484126
less work to do
ok it was a joke
but really who can image a /d/ with not "incase", "dymitri", "nobodyinparticular" and many others?
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>>6483869
If there's anything good out of this, it's no more sameface shit.
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>>6477895
nobody on /aco/ wants the content. everyone who posts in there would rather be on /d/.

a lot of people on /d/ also want it back.

/d/ is and always has been the weird fetish board. it's why we separate /d/ and /h/

people are going to /aco/ to view rule 34, not weird fetishes.
>>
>>6478095
Fuck off back to Reddit and kill yourself you fucking weeaboo.
>>
>>6484126

How is Chris Benoit modding from beyond the grave?
>>
Maybe /d/ should be come a Western board that accepts furries?
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>>6477944
stagnancy is against quality.

Momentum is a form of quality.
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>>6484218

>Accepts furries

God no, that's be the only way for this to get fucking worse.
>>
>>6478095
Honestly, your type of exclusion hugbox attitude is very much like tumblr than wanting to allow more thing despite your personal preference for said thing.
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>>6484156
>no more sameface shit.
>chinese cartoon books
pick one
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>>6484354
this

i don't even understand how you can complain about incase's sameface, when incase's sameface look like faces and anime look like the same geometry problem over and over
>>
>western being deleted
>on a board where western isn't allowed and should be deleted

Whoda thunk it amirite?
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>>6484478
fuck off troll i know your in every other thread about this, with your bull crap because no one uses belittling phrases like that, like you

and you know me because i don't capitalize

get better material, and fuck off

>inb4 4chan is one person
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>>6484478
/d/ has worked better as a board for drawn fetish porn regardless of origin or style.

It's no ones fault but the mod/higher ups for trying to keep an outdated rule relevant.
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>>6483551

We've tried posting on /aco/. It was deleted and told to be moved here.
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>>6484478

>Causes a shitstorm
>on a board where the two coexisted just fine for years

Whoda think it amirite?
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>>6484581
Coexistence was a mistake.
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>>6484582

Segregation was an even worse one.
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>>6477895
Fuck you, why're there 2 boards for your autistic fetishs? Eastern vs Western is dumb when no other board wants anything to do with you guys. No offense /d/eviants.
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>>6484602
Then the final solution after all those mistakes is the extermination of all western
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>>6484608
none taken, most agree with you
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>>6484609

It's not a final solution if it only creates more problems. If the /aco/ plan works out then there's no reason /d/ shouldn't be merged back with /h/. When it doesn't, it'll be re-integrated here but with the community forced to rebuild from the ground up.

This does noting good for anyone except the few /jp/ transplants mad they can't post dickgirl touhous on their home board.
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>>6484620
/b/ always welcomes western /d/
>>
>>6484609
Hitler failed, why would this?
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>>6484625
Hirohito learned from his mistake.
>>
>>6484623

/b/ welcomes nobody. /d/, however, welcomes everyone except for those looking to stir up trouble, which fits you to a T.
>>
>>6484623
>>6484625
>>6484627
>>6484635

/d/ master race.
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>>6484635
Don't fear the Spiderman.
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>>6477662
2 and a half days ago cartoon image of homer simpson posted.
western & toon and obviously breaks the rules.

/d s mod does not give a shit about western except for specific fetishes he decides should go

Actions speak louder than words or rules

Appearances can be deceptive so hope I have come to the wrong conclusion
>>
>>6484638
This is /d/'s meta discussion containment thread.
>>
>>6484637

I do not fear the spiderman when I am not in his den, as he does not fear me when he is in mine. Free trade, but no invasions. Check the treaty.

>>6484640

We need a mod containment thread, though.
>>
>>>/aco/44718

>/aco/ has stolen Jet Porn


NO
THIS IS NOT RIGHT AT FUCKING ALL.
>>
>>6484659
They didn't steal anything. They were exiled and took their belongings with them.
>>
>>6484711

A worthless mod "exhiled" them and they took a valuable /d/ export with them. The fact that you're so flippant is a dead giveaway that you're simply some /jp/ shitposter who's spent so little time on this board that your opinion on it's workings are worthless.
>>
>>6484749
No no, anon, I'm the opposite of what you say I am. I'm saying getting mad that /d/iaspora take their toys with them and in effort deprive /d/ of what it once had is just to be expected at this point.

It's the mod's fault of course. It's distressing to see /d/weebs cheering on the exile of other /d/eviants.
>>
>>6484749
>some /jp/ shitposter
After a quick look at archive.moe, it looks like /a/'s the board that's more likely to be the instigator in these anti-western shitposts.
>>
>>6484756

Sorry, then. Some friendly fire happens, I guess.

>>6484770

I didn't think even /a/ is this anti-western, but I wouldn't be surprised to be wrong. I'll have to take your word for it.
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>>6484834
You don''t have to take my word for it. Archive.moe is easy to access.

The only talk of /aco/ on /jp/ was short; in one of their monster girls thread. There's actual agreement there that western purging is a mistake.

On /a/ I see mentions of "western shit" "/co/mblr" and referring to western art as tumblr art.
>>
>>6484146
Nobodyinparticular is garbage. Incase and dymitris dont usually draw things that are my taste but they are usually at least decent. Too many western artists get a pass quality-wise because they happen to draw someone's favorite character with shitting dick-nipples.
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>>6483291
I do not want the garbage weird western stuff
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>>6485297

>Nobodyinparticular is garbage.

Pic related.

>Too many western artists get a pass quality-wise because they happen to draw someone's favorite character with shitting dick-nipples.

I don't entirely disagree with this, though. I don't think it should be carpet-bombed like it is right now, though. And I've certainly seen eastern stuff that fit that description as well.
>>
>>6485348
See, the problem with you westernfags is that you have absolutely no eye for quality.
>>
>>6485367

This is the problem with the "Quality" arguement, it's way too subjective to be enforcable. I dont' see anything about NIP's work that is low quality, while you do. I've seen a bit more shitty eastern art as well these last few days, which obviously the poster thought was quality but the mod still deleted.
>>
>>6485376
That's exactly what I mean. NIP is *objectively* awful at rendering, construction, and anatomy.
>>
>>6485367
As an artist that study anatomy and classical basic skills, I for one, thin that moeblob with minimal features and alost no nose is an awful eastern art style. But I see this shit being posted as it was "quality" here.

And before anyone say something, there is eastern style that isnt moe blob, AND my style is mostly based on that.
>>
>>6485299
And I don't want the garbage weird eastern stuff either, but lo and behold that will and does get posted ad nauseam.

If it's a question of quality then put that into effect, don't just delete western content because it's western, that's fucking retarded.

>>6485367
Don't even pretend like eastern fans do either. The only people who try and say one or the other is objectively better are hopeless /d/weebs. Your subjective taste is not objectively better just because you say it is.

>>6485433
>objectively
I love how weebs turn into professional art critics the moment someone questions their superiority complexes. They sure don't seem to have any of that when it comes to consuming their own artistic styles.
>>
>>6485452
Skill is objective, style is not. You can easily tell whether or not the artist has a grasp of those basic skills regardless of art style.

>>6485460
Eastern fans simply post better stuff. Whether it's because of their critical eye or a hosting site's quality control acting as a filter doesn't matter.
>>
>>6485525

>Eastern fans simply post better stuff. Whether it's because of their critical eye or a hosting site's quality control acting as a filter doesn't matter.

>being this deluded

go back to bed Ken-sama
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>>6485525

>Eastern fans simply post better stuff.

My sides are splitting on their own
>>
>>6485573
>>6485592
There is no eastern art on the board that is worse than the absolute dogshit in this thread:
>>6439264
>>
>>6485616
>Points to a thread full of good and bad from both styles
Not really proving your point guy.
>>
>>6485525
>Eastern fans simply post better stuff. Whether it's because of their critical eye or a hosting site's quality control acting as a filter doesn't matter.

I refuse to believe all Eastern fans are as deluded, smug and high on their own sense of superiority as this. This rule doesn't suit /d/, it suits you.
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>>6485963

>neo/d/ is so starved for content they've been forced to post dickless dickgirls
>>
So did the other discussion thread on /d/ get deleted? Why?

>>6486017
>dickless dickgirls
So basically just women now.
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If /d/ is going full eastern, then allow shota/loli. Otherwise there is no point, since those are the biggest ''niche'' fetishes where eastern content vastly outnumbers western.

Also bonus points for them acting as normalfag-repelent
>>
>>6486063
Fuck off pedo lol
>>
>>6486065
>lol

Reddit is real
>>
>>6486084
Baited for this exact response
Get fucked pedo
>>
>>6486086
>i was just pretending to be retarded
>>
>>6486033
but with balls
>>
>>6477895

if "fanart" isn't allowed why is anime fanart all over the goddamn board?
>>
>>6477662
Reported for western
>>
>>6486033
Because this is the containment thread. Can't have the community getting uppity and voicing their displeasure in a way that gets noticed.

>>6486178
Because these rules have always been inconsistent. They made exceptions for Dmitrys FFS. They don't make sense and most people here don't want them enforced.
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>>6485297
>Incase and dymitris dont usually draw things that are my taste but they are usually at least decent.
>Incase
>usually at least desent
come on anon is the fucking light of the board
or was
>>
>>6486663

Incase is great but, cmon man, Anasheya > InCase > Dmitrys.
>>
>>6486719
>also look that expression, anon, is fine art
>>
well, if they delete the 3┬░ rule of /d/ and they make /aco/ a only vanila western board, they are making happy the 80% of /d/ and the /co/ users that asked for /aco/

we can vote here http://strawpoll.me/5633170
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>>6486748
keep spreading the link around?
>>
>>6486794
why not?

i really want that hiro fix this
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>>6477895
NO FUCK YOU!
nobody wanted this so fuck right off with this change
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this is the worst fucking decision mods have ever made fuck you i want my old /d/ back
>>
>>6478516
But that's not the issue. The issue is

>what do other people associate diapers to?

It's all right for us that visit /d/, we all have a wierd fetish so we don't judge others (too much). But for those outside /d/? Like those who are posting in /aco/? They don't see the humiliation aspects of the diaper fetish. They see diapers, and the automatic association of scat and watersports. There's a reason the unusual fetishes found a home on /d/ in the first place, and that's because they're not socially accepted.
>>
>>6487074
By 'old /d/' do you mean the one where the rules were enforced or something else?
>>
>>6477733
/aco/ is already overrun with the dickgirls and other fetished items that used to be here before you chased them out.
>>
>>6487273
He means the /d/ we had until this shit started where both western and eastern were regularly posted without many people giving any shits either way.
>>
>>6487276

>The thing that created /d/ in the first place is happening again

Good job, good effort mod-san.
>>
>>6477895
Fuck you, up the ass. Do your job better.
>>
>>6487440

Don't bother, the mod won't be back to this board for another month or two.
>>
>>6477895
"More of"? Pardon, but what? Either /aco/ includes "western" /d/ material, or it doesn't. "More of" is ambiguous, and it's these kinds of ambiguities that are causing people to go berserk here and on that board, for and against what kind of content officially goes where.

Figure your shit out as a group, and make appropriate changes to the rules. Don't post shit that indicates X kinda-sorta-maybe fits in Y board. 4chan's been here for over a decade, you people should have this down by now.
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