Role-Reversal and Gentle Femdom general
Handcuffed to the bed edition
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mega-pastebin that's made making a new thread much easier, I mean wow this actually took no time at all. Well it wouldn't but my typing this has actually made it take much longer so I'm going to shut up now and link it: http://pastebin.com/evbfjazh
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>gf has a terrible day, incredibly stressed about results of exams, etc
>comes over to dorm
>Tries to be cheery
>"Hi gf! On the bed, now!"
>she falls asleep
>wake her up gently so she can go home before the next day's classes (roommates suck, wish i had my own room)
>weekend rolls around
>"Hey anon, you should come over tonight!"
>go to her room
>"Hey anon! Take your clothes off. On the bed, now."
>immediately pounced on
>after being ridden to exhaustion she leans down into my ear
>"thanks for thursday anon, you made my week so much better. So this weekend is gonna be my thank-you"
>leans back up
>opens bedside drawer
>pulls out handcuffs
>I'm-gonna-fuck-you-til-you-can't-even-think grin spreads on her face
And that's where the screen fades to black.
And then we both missed our monday 8 AM classes.
draw-rr from last thread, with questions.
>Do you guys prefer larger girls with more ample assets, or do you prefer more petite girly-girls?
>Do you prefer the guy to be smaller and lithe, or remain bigger than the girl?
>Do you guys prefer larger girls with more ample assets, or do you prefer more petite girly-girls?
I can dig both. My girlfriend in high school was a little redhead half my size, my girlfriend now is a tall blonde Amazon type chick.
>Do you prefer the guy to be smaller and lithe, or remain bigger than the girl?
Again, I'm fine with either.
I do like it when the girl can overpower the guy, though.
Thinking about it, I think I wouldn't mind the girl to be larger so long as assets are proportional and she is healthy large.
As for height, I would probably like to be smaller, makes it easier to get into the role.
Here, some new content
your mileage may vary
Just wondering why people seem so intent on pursuing gfd in real life. Most depictions of it are porn, and rightly so. It's a fetish, and an incredibly one-sided fetish. Don't get me wrong, I think gfd is incredibly hot; the fantasy of an attractive woman offering or "forcing" her affections and pleasures onto another makes many of us feel very warm and fuzzy inside. Pic related.
But in the end, it is a (often male) fantasy. Enjoy it in porn, don't actively pursue it in real life.
Depictions like that are silly and obviously not real. It's not impossible to find a girl willing to tie you up and be on top IRL. Im pretty sure noone in here expects a manic pixie dream girl fantasy like that to happen to them.
Because we like it and because that's where it feels most natural for us to be in a relationship, just like you have a place in your own. It's not something we can control, it's just weird brain psych.
I suck at being dominant in relationships, I'm constantly afraid I'll hurt the girl or do something to upset her if I try to be the "alpha". Gentle femdom turns me on like nothing else and apparently I have all the personality traits of guys that girls into this stuff like. Doesn't hurt that I'm a total bottom and usually fall into a "first follower" or "second in command" position at everything I do.
I understand that relationships require co-operation and compromise, I'm willing to uphold my share of a relationship and I don't expect to just lie there and have a girl fall into my lap desperate to pleasure me.
What I don't understand is why so many girls in the dating scene expect men to initiate everything and then get angry if they misread the signs or think that if they like a man all they have to do is be in the same room as him. I can't stand that kind of stuff and makes me think there'll be communication issues if I date them.
Why do you perceive the fetish as so one-sided? It's an incredibly female-empowering fetish.
Don't get yourself so down. Saying that most women arn't into the fetish is like saying most men arn't into the fetish. This is true...
But I guarantee you there are women into this. I should know, my wife is.
>known for being a stubborn prick in highschool
>fad going on where girls ask the outcasts out to laugh at their reaction
>grill hugs me in the corridor and kisses me on the cheek
>turn beetred and start yelling
>just makes it worse cos everyone looks at us
>next day she asks me to be her boyfriend
>think she's pulling a prank and tell her to fuck off
>hear she spent the next lesson crying her eyes out
>still think about it to this day
the mind break is real
I sometimes lie awake at night wondering if she meant it.
The day she kissed me we had spent the lesson passing notes (and laughing at them) with her saying how much she wanted to fuck me, me daring her to make a move and her saying she'd fuck me on the table if the teacher wouldn't expel her for it.
It could easily have been a joke but at the same time she could have just been an awkwardly infatuated teenager. I wish I had just spoken to her and found out instead of avoiding her for the next 2 years.
I'm asking here because this seems more relevant to what I'm interested in but is a little too extreme.
I'm really looking for being loved by a girl, like how people love pets. Giving them a lot of attention and physical contact, or stuff. Kisses, and really vanilla stuff. But I'm not sure what the name for that is called.
Happened like 5 years ago. Still have her on facebook but I'm never going to ask her. It's just a highlight during the occasional times when I lie there wondering what the fuck I'm doing with my life.
>bit more sub than dom because absolutely no self-confidence
>gf is sub only
>I want a role-reversal relationship
Don't feel bad, anon. Considering the context, your reaction was entirely understandable. She just mistimed hitting on you.
>Be young tall mid body building while working construction
>Have a short Latina manager with a bubbly personality always dropping by us to see how we are doing.
>I'm cocky and a flirt so I begin to cat call her and she doesn't give a shit just giggles and shoo's me away.
>Get to know each other more on our downtime hang out.
>Tease her alot about her height and body poking her ass
>She treats me like the freaking friendly giant sitting on my lap hanging around my neck
Now I only wanted to be friends, i may be touchy but just wanted to be friends. Hell i treated my manager like a sister let her in my home and just laze around.
>>fad going on where girls ask the outcasts out to laugh at their reaction
> tfw this happened to me
see bottom left of pic related
Anon, even I have enough social skills to know that coming out of nowhere and asking a girl you haven't spoken to since high school about how she felt for you back then is a bad idea.
Well, first you get used to being handcuffed, so you don't have the ability to push around your partner, and she's the one that dictates position and such.
Second: blindfold. Now she dictates position as well as timing.
Lastly, the gag. Now, you can't even beg her to play with your cock while you're all restrained. You have now lost control over timing and position, and now you can't say yes or no if she asks you questions. So really, all you can do is obey her and give her the hardest dicking you can (or whatever else she tells you to do).
Every time you get comfortable with one thing, she can apply another, until eventually you're comfortable being totally obedient. But honestly I'm more into /rr/ so take all that with a grain of salt.
I giggle like mad when I'm nervous and can't shut myself up or enjoy myself. I think I may need a gag if I ever end up in an /rr/ relationship just to spare us both from my motor mouth.
Never force it. That just makes it uncomfortable. If you don't like it you two can be relatively quiet, just be sure to let your voice out. I've never met anyone who doesn't like a vocal partner.
Level up social skills brah. That shouldn't be the first thing out of his mouth, but it would be a good conversation starter.
"Hey, I know we've not been too close these past few years, but since we're both out of the awkward high school years, I wanted to catch up with you."
Or something. Worst case, she ignores it, and anon can move on. Best case? Anon gets himself a friend that he could potentially turn into girlfriend.
Impossibly best case: She was playing the long game and waited 5 years for anon to realize he should use this as an opportunity to actually connect with her on a mature level instead of a petty High School relationship.
I'm with >>6061802
I don't see a risk beyond her already not talking to you. It ain't high school anymore. She might tell a friend "Some guy from my high school I used to have a crush on wanted to talk to me again. Weird, huh?" And that'll be the end of it. Besides, rejection happens a lot, and the only way to feel better about it is to get used to it by experiencing it and dealing with it first hand.
Besides, more importantly, we're here for you anon.
captcha:usili I hope it's pronounced You silly.
Get over yourself and tell him. You're interested, or you wouldn't be here. If he's interested, you can make him the luckiest boy alive in addition to making yourself very, very happy.
When I tell a girl something more often than not her entire circle of friends find out within 24 hours. I'm still friends with a lot of people from high school and so is she. The last thing I need is her telling everyone "secretly".
Especially after a girl here at uni's done the same thing after I asked if her friend was dropping hints by adding Xes and giggles at the end of every text. Every girl here's stopped talking to me and are acting like I'll fall in love with them if they treat me nice.
So while I don't know the whole story, seeing as it's your life and all, I would like to say it's your imagination. The mind is a fickle creature.
If it is how you say, then you're probably right to not talk to them, but not because you'd embarrass yourself. They're too immature to figure shit out and express their feelings openly.
You're not all wrong.
I'm a woman. Everyday society tells me I have to submit to a man.
But i'm selfish. I'm fully aware of that.
I want a man to fold entirely to MY will.
Why shouldn't he? I know better than him most of the time anyway.
Just sit there, be pretty, and get fucked/teased by me.
I don't want or need your opinion or input beyond the lewd groans and moans I wring from you.
What's so wrong with that? It's easy and fun, and if you don't like it you are an adult and can always leave.
Like I said, I know it's selfish, terribly greedy. But since when was that a bad thing?
I know that feel. /gfd/ is great and enormously desirable, but just doesn't seem to exist IRL.
On a vaguely related note, Samus is surprisingly good /gfd/ material.
Samus + Mac is the best thing I've seen for /gfd/
Mostly because I figure Mac is a likeable guy, despite no evidence in the games he's in, and Samus seems to be a standup gal despite being a mercenary. I mean heck, playing mama to the last metroid in known existence is pretty nice.
Hey now, this is /gfd/ not straight up femdom. You gotta treat your sub right, and actually care for him, not just treat him like an object of sex *all* the time.
How do you find power hungry, confident women when you're a low IQ loser? Most of you guys can find them through work since you have degrees, so you're with similarly ambitious people.
Maybe I should be a pool boy and get hit on by hot christmas cake.
Feminism have liberated women but it didn't liberate men all that much. What's funny is that now feminists are seeing how women are allowed to be masculine and men aren't allowed to be feminine, and decide that "oh, the patriarchy hated femininity all along, not females." instead of seeing it as what it is: male rights lagging behind.
>Mostly because I figure Mac is a likeable guy, despite no evidence in the games he's in
You must be a swell guy if you can befriend Doc Louis.
>fat socially retarded loser
>sitting by myself at a table
>group of girls being loud at the far end of the table
>One of them comes up to me and I can see the rest of them watching
>She asks me out
>Little to no self confidence and nothing like this has ever happened to me before
>"Did someone put you up to this?"
>She bursts out laughing and runs back to the group who is now also laughing hysterically
>I pack up my stuff, leave the table to go to the library
>>"Did someone put you up to this?"
>>She bursts out laughing and runs back to the group who is now also laughing hysterically
Why are middle school kids such fucking psychopaths?
>tfw my crush randomly came up to me in the school hallway one day just to tell me how ugly i am and walked off laughing with her friends
I never even talked to her before that and didn't even know her, only her name. We didnt even have any classes together or anything.
>guys can destroy your body but girls? they can destroy your soul
The worst emotional abuse I got was from guys. They would call me stupid, whipser really cruel things at me during class. It was always someone somewhat popular and smart, too. It's like they could smell how weak I was and needed to kick me even further down.
And now I'm super afraid of even talking to other men. I'm afraid they're all the same as those outwardly charming, handsome kids who would torment me.
I blame middle school for every social failure I've had since. The people around me were so goddamn flaky that I literally wanted nothing to do with any of them. Who would have guessed that my social skills would have gone down the toilet as a result?
For me it's a warm-fuzzy feeling. Being held in someone's arms. Whispers of sweet nothings... All I said is that depictions of gfd are usually found in porn/erotica. The list of Hentai/erotica I can find with heavy gfd overtones is significantly larger than the "recommended anime/manga/ln" that we have now.
gfd kind of boils down to wanting to be the recipient of affection, rather than the giver, which is totally fine. I'm into it, as are many others, which is why we have this thread. However it is one sided. Wanting a qt3.14 to initiate things with you is just the male version of the knight-on-the-white-horse female fantasy.
If you argue that they both initiate contact, and give and receive affection equally, our fetish is just a happy and loving relationship with a significant other. Which is also fine. I'm totally fine with that.
Guys whisper it. Girls say it to your face and don't give a shit. Of course these are all just anecdotes, people's experiences differ.
I remember being openly mocked by girls at my school and told I was disgusting, no one likes me, I should kill myself etc etc. All the guys ever did was break my stuff or throw my clothes into the showers.
Damn. When I type it all out I realise that life's just gotten better with each year for me.
>Damn. When I type it all out I realise that life's just gotten better with each year for me.
Warning, personal blog ahead.
I wish I could say the same, not that I blame bullies for my downward spiral. After middle school I got into this program that would have given me my associate's degree for free in tandem with high school classes. Everyone in the program with me was super nice and supportive. Then I realized it was too hard for me and got extremely depressed and dropped out.
And now I'm on 4chan.
Yeah, arguably, the subs are more affectionate than the doms under IRL circumstances. It's just the affection is expressed in a different way, one that porn usually doesn't bother showing
I just went on a NTR doujin binge for reasons I don't understand. Now I'm crying and I feel like shit. I need the cutest, most lovey-dovey shit you have to help heal this wound in my heart. Please help me, /rr&gfd/.
I think lamia's are hot.
Slime girls too.
Basically fictional characters that can envelop someone in a safe, warm cocoon.
Otherwise, I suppose gfd is a rather emotional fetish. Appearance matters less than the feeling of being safe and warm in the arms of someone who loves you.
I've been trying to writefag a script that is all about the subs affection for the domme. I imaged it would be targeted for the female audience and read by a male, but I'm not sure what they like. What do you think?
>I just went on a NTR doujin binge for reasons I don't understand. Now I'm crying and I feel like shit
I do that too, what the fuck. I can't get off, but I like the emotional torture.
here's a cute doujin :3
she is 100% sub
we've talked about it already ;_;
Why would you do that?
I hope this is lovey-dovey enough for you.
I did that too one time, it was a very depressing night.
I'd say maybe try reading Prison School if you haven't, maybe it'll make you laugh.
So now I'm thinking about a story where Doc NTRs Mac, but not in a sexual way.
Mac will never be able to eat Samus' chocolates.
"MMMM, Mac, these are so good, I bet you wish you had some! Oooh, they're homemade deliciousness!"
Later, when Mac is with Samus, "Hey sweetie, how were the chocolates?"
Mac just looks at Doc's shit eating grin.
And when he's done, he steals Mac's bike.
Don't know how relevant it is but it's fucking cute so posting it anyway
I don't know and I don't really understand. It's weird, I hate what's happening and I hate the feelings it gives me, but at the same time it kind of feels good exploring those emotions? Like, after I read I'd lay down in my bed and think about it for a while. I'd go through scenarios in my head and think about what I'd ask the person and how they would answer back. It's like I don't like it and it's not enjoyable, but it sort of feels good at the same time even though that doesn't make sense. Shit, I don't know, I've just been feeling really confused about the whole subject and the feelings it gives me. The main thing I read was http://exhentai.org/g/724366/30d80db8b1/ if that helps give any context.
No wonder Mac's always chasing after him.
So now I want to make a Punch Out homage, but replace Doc with Samus cheering him on after she's retired from being a bounty hunter and is passing on some of her Chozo fighting skills.
As a side note, holy shit. Between the NES version of Punch Out, and the Wii version, Mac grew 11 inches. He's not so little anymore...
>Between the NES version of Punch Out, and the Wii version, Mac grew 11 inches.
Between the SNES and Gamecube, Samus shrunk from an Amazonian 1.93m to a below average 1.54m.
Maybe it's just catharsis? Maybe you just need an outlet for your negative feelings? I guess that's harmless enough. We all need it once in a while.
well this goes on for a few good months and i hook up with a black girl man who fucking blew my mind body and personality just fucking destroyed my expectations forever, and you all know what happens when you hook with a woman and you got a close one that you don't know fucking likes you? yeah shit sucks, cause she didn't know about the hook up but when i told her she was crushed like "Oh..." kinda crushed and like anything else we distanced till around christmas i got no family so my gf at the time goes with her family and i'm chillin getting a call from my lil latina asking to hang out it's been awhile so stupidly enough i said "Fuck yeah shits on me"....she went nuts and tried to pin me down and do some weird shit with cuffs, in short don't befriend you manager she will be even more crushed on the second rejection and black women are awesome.
we're the same height (5'3") but he gets all the best /rr/ porn anyway
Nintendo in general is actually pretty goodd for this stuff
>tfw no qt angel boy to steal his purity
>doesn't want opinion
>"hey anonette, I was thinking over that problem you had and I think I might be able to help," <3
>"I don't need or want your opinion, you're just here to get fucked by me."
I would not only definitely cry I would also leave her.
Lady Johanna paste bin of the story so far: http://pastebin.com/hY6HZQjS
>The silence between you and the lady knight is awkward
>Asking her about marriage probably wasn't a smart move...
>"So... Your training started when you were eight? Did you miss your parents?"
>"Not really. Pages visited the court often enough so I saw my father."
>She tucks a rare stray strand of black hair that's escaped her braid behind her ear
>"What about you? You said you were an orphan... I can't imagine that."
>"Lots of kids are, I guess. It wasn't that bad."
>Not trying to be tough
>Didn't know your parents, can't really miss them that much
>"How did you come to work at the inn?"
>"The owner needed another pair of hands. Sounded like good work. And it was, I guess. He had three sons so I mostly worked mending and fetching and in the kitchen."
>You're behind her so you can't see her, but you can almost feel her smile after a week of riding this way
>"Obviously not lifting heavy pots..."
>Still a little sore over that display
>"I was a small kid. Still never got as big as the inn keeper's sons. Or his wife, for that matter... So they didn't expect me to do any heavy lifting."
>"Not even serving drinks?"
>"By the glass, yes. By the tray..."
>You repress a shudder at the memory
>"They only had me do it once."
>She laughs, a bit of a rarity
>"Not the most graceful bar maid, Anon?"
>"An understatement, my lady."
>Would definitely not miss doing that
>"They won't have you doing anything beyond your capabilities at the palace, at least. More strong backs than deft hands, to be honest. I'm sure you'll find a place."
>You really do wish you were a bit stronger physically...
>Weren't a sickly little kid anymore
>Despite still not being the most graceful
>But... wasn't like you needed to be strong
>Had other talents
>Plus... might as well let the professional with the sword do the protecting and lifting
>Why shouldn't he? I know better than him most of the time anyway.
kek. Right up until you need to prove it, right? Like kids that are all "I'm good at this stuff, I just suck at tests."
>"As interested as you are in my training, Anon, you might be interested in our next stop before the Capital."
>This perks your interest
>"What stop is that, my lady?"
>"The city of Steelpoint. Not a true city, but they call it one. It is where almost every knight in the realm is trained to squirehood. It was my home for eight years."
>A city entirely made of would-be knights... It's hard for you to imagine such a thing
>"Why are we stopping there, my lady?"
>"It is also where the administrative body for knights is. I'll report my journey to the bureaucrats there for their records."
>She shifts in the saddle and smiles
>"More paperwork in knightly works than most people know. We'll be there a few days. I imagine you're looking forward to getting your own room, assuming there's space."
>"Yes, my lady."
>Secretly hope you have to room together again
>Even if you've never convinced her to take the bed and let you sleep on the rug for once
>Have gotten used to her soft breathing lulling you to sleep
>Haven't had a bit of your old insomnia since the journey began
>"My lady... In Steelpoint, do you think I might learn some techniques to improve strength? Not to be a knight! Just... To be a bit more useful. When I'm at the palace."
>"You might find something of the sort... Better instructors than I at least."
>She shifts again, anxious in the saddle today for some reason...
>"But if I were you, Anon, I wouldn't worry about it. How many downed sign posts are there? I can manage the heavy lifting just fine."
>"But you won't be at the palace to help me."
>She is silent for a moment
>"No," she admits softly. "I suppose I won't be."
>Silence is even more awkward now
>Trapped on a horse with a beautiful woman and you still manage to kill conversations
>Not your best moment...
The problem I have with people discounting that, is that I've taught my friends how to do the things we do on tests, and they do better than I do.
I'm not an idiot, I just have all my fuckups on tests. :<
be honest, now. women don't fuss over feminized men nearly as much as men do. as a guy how he would react if his kid were gay. if a daughter, the guy would be okay. if a son, the guy would probably beat the kid's ass. Mom's just love them as they are
What do you guys think about Satsuki as a candidate for /rr/?
Authoritative personality, domineering woman
The Quests on TG that had a Satsuki route worked out pretty well, until the MC actually got around to having sex with her. She became a complete sub.
I really can't say much back to this, because the show was kinda bad, but bad enough in the right ways to be okay. Trigger just makes me happy, I dunno why.
Question about the /gfd/ aesthetics guide: is peppermint tea interchangeable with spearmint tea as far as the skin effects go?
Because I keep reading conflicting things like peppermint being more or less effective than spearmint for clearing up skin.
I didn't even have to pursue it. I got lucky.
I had a profile on OKC where I was just myself, and a girl messaged me out of the blue saying she wanted to chat. We became fast friends, and grew really close really quickly, texting and chatting back and forth, listening to music together, and so on.
When the topic of sex and kink-related stuff came up, she told me flat out she was the loving dominant type in the bedroom, and that she felt that she could tell, deep down, that I was into femdom. I had never thought about it before, but seeing how much she was into it and how horny it made her talking about being tied down and her having her way with me really got me going, too.
We live in the same city, so I met up with her one weekend when her parents were out of town. We were intending to spend the weekend working on stuff together, playing games, and listening to music, but we must have spent 90% of our time in bed together.
Her degree of femdom was a bit more extreme than the stuff in this thread. Though we did most of the gentle stuff like foot worship and having her wrap her legs tightly around my head while I ate her out, she'd also slap me sometimes, claw at my chest until it was raw and red, and gently run a knife up and down my chest. But she always did it with a loving look on her face, and we made out and cuddled and held each other close just as much.
I can't believe how fucking lucky I was.
>Finally get to hang out with my master (she's female; we're in a gfd-oriented petplay relationship and we both like the term 'master' a lot more than 'mistress' in general)
>We were going to meet up at her parents' place and hadn't actually told them we were dating, so we had to be quiet and pretend that we were just platonic friends whenever we were in front of them
>Arrive at about 11:30 AM and stay until about 10:30 PM
>Spend all day alternating between making out with heavy fondling and vidya/movies, with only a break in the middle for dinner
My memory of the exact order of events is jumbled, so I'll just list out random moments I really enjoyed.
>Laying down with my head in her lap while she played Pikmin 2
>Cuddling while I played Okami
>Cuddling while we watched all of Spirited Away
>She shudders as I kiss and lick her cheek
>I move down the side of her face to her neck
>Start licking my way up to behind one of her ears, since she's very sensitive behind her ears
>Gently just trace my tongue around in that area
>She starts gently fidgeting while making little vocalizations
>She has a very, very sensitive erogenous zone on her lower back
>She was on her period that day, so that spot became the primary method of physically pleasuring her
>She's laying on her stomach, and I lift up the back of her shirt and pull down the back of her pants to better get at that area
>Press hard into my fingers as I rub that spot, slowly at first
>She responds immediately with sexy noises and squirming
>Press harder, moving faster
>She starts shaking more and more
>Rub that spot as fast as I can with all my strength, constantly having to switch arms because fuck I'm getting tired
>She's shuddering and shaking drastically, with lots of incredibly hot moaning
>Eventually slow down the rubbing of that spot, since I'm exhausted and she can't orgasm from that spot anyway
>She takes a long while to regain her composure
More next post.
Continuing with more stories
>I'm face-down with my head in her lap
>She reaches down and starts gently fondling my butt
>I, the slut I am, tell her that she can reach under my underwear and fondle me directly
>She begins to do so
>Slowly lowers my pants a little
>Fondles me as much as she can from that angle
>We can't just strip naked because her parents could come knocking on her door at any time
>I flip over so I'm on my hands and knees, my butt towards her
>She pulls my pants down more
>I had cleaned myself thoroughly beforehand (enema followed by a shower) so I was as confident as I could be that she would enjoy whatever she wanted to do with my butt (she's super duper into butts and I'm not at all, so I just let her have her way and hope she enjoys it)
>My pants get pulled halfway down my thighs
>She's heavily groping and squeezing my butt, pulling on my cheeks, giving me compliments on its size and shape and feel
>She gently presses one (?) of her fingers against my entrance and just gently pokes and rubs
>I have no idea what she's doing because I can't see her, and this excites me
>We don't have any lube so she can't go further
>At one point she reached between my legs and fondled my balls and that was pretty awesome
>Eventually I turn around, and for the first time, she sees my cock in person
>She gently touches it and is unsure of how to handle it, since it's the first cock she's seen like this
>I forget the exact order of what happened, but some things that happened are: she tried to stroke it at little bit was kind of awkward about it, so I showed her how I stroke it and she imitated it, and that felt really nice; she mentioned to me "I'm finally touching your giant cock."; she licked along the sides and put the head in her mouth once, which was a huge turn on even though she didn't do enough with her mouth for it to be particularly pleasurable (it was her first time seeing a cock like that, so I wasn't going to rush her into things)
More next post.
And now for the final, most GFD-related story.
>She's sitting on the couch, with me in front of her
>I lean in, kissing her cheek and wrapping my arms around her
>She wraps her arms around me
>I kiss down to the top of her chest, the last point her shirt allows me to go
>She starts hugging me tighter, calling me a good boy
>I drag my tongue up her chest, along the side of her neck, to behind her ear
>She gasps a little and continues to tell me "Good boy, goood boy..."
>She turns her head towards me to kiss and gently bite along my neck, and then I go back to licking behind her ear
>I gently grab one of her breasts through her shirt and start squeezing it and gently pinching the nipple
>Her "good boy"s get deeper and more excited
>Eventually her shirt comes up and I'm sucking on and squeezing and playing with her breasts directly
>We eventually change position so that she's laying on top of me
>I'm reaching down her back, rubbing the sensitive spot on her lower back, while groping and sucking on her breasts
>Her whole body is twitching and shuddering and shaking as she gasps and moans
>I'm losing myself in lust as she loses herself in pleasure
>Her thigh keeps rocking against and rubbing up and down on my cock, which is still in my pants
>It feels really good, almost too good
>Think to myself, "Nah, that can't be the case. I don't want to stop what we're doing. This is amazing!"
>Eventually the pleasure builds
>Suddenly stop, saying, "We have to stop, we have to stop, I think I might have come in my pants"
>Hobble over to the adjacent bathroom
>Sure enough, I came in my pants
>The first orgasm I've ever been physically given by someone else, the first orgasm she's physically given to someone else, was a ruined orgasm in my pants
>I'm laughing about it and think it's the funniest thing
Finishing it up next post
The final part
>She's worried and upset, because she didn't want to give me a ruined orgasm and she didn't for me to have to deal with a wet spot in my pants and she was worried that I was upset or disappointed
>Reassure her that she did nothing wrong, that I was happy
>Wipe off my pants and underwear as much as I could
>Put my clothes back on and sit next to her, cuddling with her while she plays more Pikmin 2
>Stay like that until fairly late in the evening
>Lots of kisses, and then I had to go home
10/10 would see her again. I love my master so much. Belonging to her is the greatest thing. Also, I now get bragging rights over how submissive I am. How many other people get to say "I was pleasing my master so much that I came"?
>Be in highschool
>Somehow start dating cute, shy, 6,1 gf
>Gf is actually quite sub
>Be coming back home from competition
>Sit on window side of bus
>No coat; bus is cold as fuck
>Start shivering, try to hide it
>Gf notices, puts arms around me
>Sit there for a while, being held
>Gf leans down and kisses my head
And now I'm here
But role reversal isn't a one-sided male fantasy at all (in fact it's probably more "inclusive" than other fetishes that just focus on some weird bodypart or contrived scenario and actually encourages the woman to care more about her own pleasure than the man's), and also it's not strictly sexual. I think more women are becoming ok with taking initiative in relationships nowadays so I think role reversed relationships are also becoming more and more plausible.
It may be somewhat obscure but it's in no way as outlandish as other fetishes, and many women do in fact want to have more power in relationships.
While I can't say, I suppose the easiest thing to do is try it yourself, if you're the one who is looking for the effects. I must be autistic, I can't find the /gfd/ aesthetics you're talking about. I'm a research fag who apparently enjoys researching the shit out of things that don't effect me.
Jesus tittyfucking Christ, I wish I could experience this.
I've been drinking two cups of peppermint tea a day for about a week now and my skin is definitely less oily and my acne has cleared a little, but I've also cut red meat and dairy from my diet so I can't say for sure what might be causing it. I guess I'm wondering if spearmint (which is what was tested for anti-androgen properties in clinical trials, not peppermint) will be more effective in the long run (say, over a few months).
Eh. A lot of harem-type stuff seems vaguely rr at first but that's only because the girls are more actively pursuing the guy. That's it.
>You will never be this qt elf boy
>A dashing ladyknight will never buy you out of slavery
>You will never be skeptical of your new mistress at first but eventually be won over by her honorable ways and refusal to take advantage of you as other more lewd mistresses would
>You will never cook a delicious meal to thank her and show off your house-training
>She will never groom you into her ideal husband
>She will never have subtly pervy kinks that you are obliged to satisfy
>She will never dress you in qt clothes and ogle you
I think you're the second person I've ever read say that spearmint was used as an anti-androgen effectively, but more research confirms it. Good to know. The no red meats + no dairy is a good complement. I haven't seen anything about the anti-androgen properties for peppermint other than the guide itself, but I haven't looked terribly long.
Also, if you're looking for more estrogen production, Fenugreek and Red Clover help. As per the guide, Pueraria Mirifica is really potent, and in small doses can work wonders without causing unwanted growth. If you're happy with the progress you'll make with your diet changes though, better be safe than sorry.
Also, this guide looks similar to the trap-mode aesthetic guide that I saw pop-up in a sissy thread a while ago. Saved, thanks!
it's not a full manga, just a short comic strip from the artist erubo who happens to draw some non-lewd trap-ogled-by-perv-girl stuff
there's a translation request on gelbooru but I have no idea when it might be fulfilled
Like, I see myself as a sub, but I don't get this resisting crap
If a girl is flirting with me, in a assertive way, I usually blush and start shrinking up. But I love it. I don't resist it at all. I act shy, but damn, please keep going.
The appeal of resisting to me is like having her completely break down your body's defenses and claim you for her own. If a girl were suddenly assertive with me I'd probably resist out of shock and embarrassment and to have her break through that and take control would be really hot.
woah... we talking a real knife? like kitchen-type? that's some deep trust you guys have...
Biggest differences I've found: One details increasing cumload, the other recommends not masturbating anymore and supplementing with more herbs. Interesting. I'll have to keep both as references.
In other news, anyone else following the cuteboy regimen? My mild asthma would like to laugh at me trying to run, so I'd pass on that, but the herbs and simple work outs would be good.
Better get the exercise/cardio from something equivalent to what is mentioned. Estrogen means fat retention.Looking like a hambeast is not what you want. In fact, exercise is probably one of the most important on the entire list of things you need to do. Find something that you can do that is similar. Biking, cycling, stairclimbing, etc.
Good call, forgot estrogen is a fat retainer like no other. I do a bit of physical movement during the week day, doing minor things in a stable like mucking stalls and walking horses, but probably not to the degree a real workout would be. I'm just glad my metabolism lasted this long to keep me at almost underweight while eating junk food for a while.
Sorry, never looked into that beyond reading that makeup can do wonders. If you're slightly pudgy in the face, I imagine there is some truth to the exercises but unsure how much. Not much you can do about skeletal structure though. Sorry I couldn't be of more help. I should look into that though.
What's with this thread and bashing /rr/ as implausible? I'm in a happy relationship that pretty much ignores gender roles in favor of whatever each person enjoys or is best at, especially in bed.
It was one of those serrated kitchen knives. She just gently brushed the "teeth" across my chest. It wasn't enough to make me bleed, but it left a couple of red marks. I was kind of laughing the whole time, but it was a nervous laugh.
We did other stuff like role reversal and switching clothes, and we engaged in each other's fetishes a bit (I've got a thing for female belly stuffing and she has a thing for delicate, effeminate hands and wrists).
I don't really know how to describe our relationship. She's in an online relationship with a guy she sees maybe once a year, but at the same time, she's made it completely obvious and even said flat out that she wants to be with me instead. I think she's waiting for me to make a move, and she frequently teases me about being TOO submissive.
I'm not following it to a T but it's definitely given me motivation to fix my body.
I'm the guy who asked about the tea, started following it about a week ago. I'm pretty much a skinnyfat weakling right now but hopefully I will be qt one day.
Cutting out bad food was pretty easy since I don't really have cravings for red meat or junk food, I just ate that stuff out of habit. I've also been trying a lot of different foods I thought wouldn't like and now I'm eatting a lot more fruit and veggies. Also I'm slowly easing myself into a vegan diet (still eat chicken and fish right now), which really isn't as scary or daunting as I thought it would be (meat substitutes are really good actually), only issue is it's a bit expensive. I haven't gotten into the nitty-gritty of counting calories and whatnot but at least I'm eating the right things. Also I'm starting to get into the basics of cooking which is a start, I guess.
As for exercise I've started jogging (trying for 3 days a week) but I can only run for about 10 mins before slowing down to a brisk walk, so yeah, lots of room for improvement there. I'm probably going to do more weightlifting than is suggested in the guide since it's better for strength, fat burning and overall health and I can always plateau before getting too big.
A couple things that I'm still completely clueless about are fashion and hairstyling. I have this big bush of curly hair that I have no idea what to do with. I'm probably just going to ask a hairstylist for suggestions or something. And right now my wardrobe consists of nothing but hoodies, tshirts and jeans.
And this is sort of unrelated, but I'm trying to learn some instruments (piano and guitar), and sharpen up my French and pick up German
Also, has anyone had success in making their nipples more sensitive?
lucky anon, i wanna be some girls trap and go out for girls night and do lewd [spoiler]butt[/spoiler] stuff, but nooooooooooo i just had to have the physique of a damned dwarf
I was kinda shocked, merely playing with my nipples for the course of about 2 weeks has made them incredibly sensitive. Shirts rubbing my nips are slightly uncomfortable in that they could set me off in public.
Vegan diets scare me only because of pricing and concern about soy intake. Friend of mine was fine for 25 years, then had a lot more soy because his sister started using it in everything she cooked, and he developed an allergy to it. Not that it's particularly common, but I wouldn't be surprised if I win the reverse lottery on that one.
Female friends, if you have any you trust, are a fantastic resource, too. I don't have terribly many that I could see opening up to, but then again, I keep my mind a black box for anyone who knows me. Kinda strange that I can tell a complete stranger about my life.
My French is rusty from years of disuse, but I've also wanted to polish it, along with learning Esperanto, despite it's limited uses.
I still can't believe this was a thing in Japan at some point. I mean, who doesn't want cake the day after Christmas?
Trap. Little boys are not my thing.
> Weight training = bad
Is this completely true? Gains are fairly hard to come by. If you want to develop any muscle at all, just stop when you need to stop, right?
I know what you mean. I always worry about screwing up and that leads to distance which a relationship does not make. Ofc, I'm not really in the position for a relationship... But it would be nice.
>How many other people get to say "I was pleasing my master so much that I came"?
Not into petplay generally, but this... damn.
>Do you guys prefer larger girls with more ample assets, or do you prefer more petite girly-girls?
Larger girls work for obvious reasons, they seem physically able to be dominant and would fit the "traditional view" that the taller partner is dominant (normally a guy)
With a petite girl you are sbuverting that view. You have someone who's smaller BUT she will not allow that to interfere with her being the dominant partner. In fact, she may be coy about it
>Do you prefer the guy to be smaller and lithe, or remain bigger than the girl?
I don't really mind either way, you can make him as tall as her (both tall, both small) with them going "oh... I didn't expect to find someone my size" or play up the size difference for what you want to do.
And that's about it.
Source is "This Arcade Has A Ban On Love" by Yurikawa (one of the recommended H-Artists).
I mean, there is more, but I don't want to dump all of it here.
>I'm a woman. Everyday society tells me I have to submit to a man.
It really does not.
>Why shouldn't he? I know better than him most of the time anyway.
This is an incredibly simple worldview.
>Just sit there, be pretty, and get fucked/teased by me.
>I don't want or need your opinion or input beyond the lewd groans and moans I wring from you.
This is just mean.
My nigger! The only thing hotter than a women in suits are [spoiler]women in suits who also happen to be /fit/[/spoiler]
None of that is gentle
>34 year old that could pass for 22
Holy shit. If you think you'll like her then why not?
Any of Yurikawa's, honestly. "Houkago Strawberry Dildo" (After School Strawberry Dildo) is a compilation/anthology of some of his/her best works and is pretty much focused on trappy guy x tomboyish girl. It doesn't have all stories, though, missing out the "Arcade has a ban on love" one, for example.
"Toshiue Kanojo" (Older Girlfriend) is another interesting one, which spans 4 chapters IIRC.
As I said, you can basically grab any of his doujins, but those are probably the best ones you will find translated into English.
Okay dammit fine. How should I go about this?
Here's what I know:
>she acts more like someone my age than I do
>she dresses like she's a celebrity trying to be inconspicuous
>we're both first year students in university
>she's about to get a promotion at her workplace
>the job isn't related to the course
>my flamboyant friend on the course is her bff
>they go to clubs and shit all the time
>he works there too and is after her old job
>she's told me if she gets the promotion I can have the friend's job
I honestly did not know she was in her thirties until friend made a joke about it and she admitted it when no one believed her
>being able to find women
I want normies to leave
They're not really that /rr/ though. As soon as any kind of sex starts the guy's suddenly calling the shots and teasing her and taunting her and she's making all the ridiculous sex faces and she's a slave to her own arousal and it's the kind of boring normie sex we've all had to endure from hentai for years now.
I've really grown disillusioned with hentai manga, can you tell?
>They're not really that /rr/ though. As soon as any kind of sex starts the guy's suddenly calling the shots and teasing her and taunting her and she's making all the ridiculous sex faces and she's a slave to her own arousal and it's the kind of boring normie sex we've all had to endure from hentai for years now.
Not all of Yurikawa is like that, he has a few with the girl riding the guy and calling the shots.
It's more "sex amongst equals" most of the time (either of them can be on top) than /gfd/, you're portraying it as if the girl suddenly loses her mind and becomes a slave to cock and the guy suddenly goes full patriarchy.
I mean, would you call this the girl lusting for cock or just being coy in a gentle femdom way by having herself and her boyfriend dress up as playboy bunnies?
I'm not sure about you guys and girls but wouldn't you want to do this with your partner?
>you thought you were getting blown? Not today, today is your turn to make a show for me
Now... if this is not up the alley of this thread. I have no idea. I mean, you want to go full femdom? I thought this thread was created to separate itself from regular old femdom threads
And done. I didn't post the beginning, maybe I should.
>Okay, I'll admit that this one was great. However, it's unlike anything else I've seen from Yurikawa.
You haven't been paying attention then.
There is a reason I recommend only a few of his stories for this thread, the Strawberry Dildo Anthology, the Arcade story and the Toshiue miniseries.
This one I posted is part of that anthology.
His newer stuff is a bit hit or miss from a /rr/ standpoint. I still like it, but it is more "girl is looking for a guy to like her" than /rr/.
I'm tall, hairy and would only want to be submissive in bed or in cases of emotional distress.
Today I had a dream that I felt asleep in a qts lap while sucking on her breasts. I woke up and I was still in her lap, she was reading a book that she supported by my shoulder. I asked her for how long I was asleep, she smiled and was about to say something but then I woke up in real life.
I accept dominant gf applications.
I am sorry, my Yurikawa dump may have contributed to that.
'm alreet m8, tell you wot though I'm gettin' bloody sick of all the skanks up 'ere. No 'ugs or cuddles from em, too desperate to sell ya some clunge for a packet of fags. Pisses me off like nothin else.
One of them is literally saying "you will be my property not a person" and the other is maybe not even that autistic but I got a bit sad because she was looking for the perfect anime sub guy which I'm far from.
The american ones aren't much better tbh, only the austin girl seemed alright from first glance
At least weather's been nice. Went for a walk through the park, almost got jumped by a pack of chavs, realised why I stopped leaving the flat if I've got nowt to do.
'Ows it goin where you are?
Chick from Holland is pretty chill. Can be hit or miss as far as conversations go and she's an hXc memer but if you're into vidya she's the girl for you. Probably from /v/ originally because I can't imagine anyone else would play as much 40k as that.
Daily reminder that rusfemanon is on reddit and regularly posts in /r/gonewildaudio with new stuff. I don't care if you're some beta fuckface from r9k but you can at least respect her for continuing with it.
Just look for someone named Ovri
>Honestly, I feel the same about every other country. As bad as America might be, I've lived in it for so long that the downsides of other countries seem far worse.
How so? Unless you are not comparing first world countries, the US of A is the worst amongst the first world I can think of as a European, closely followed by the UK and Australia, but those at least have decent public social services/healthcare and better salaries once you take those services into account.
gfd is a really weird "fetish" if one can even call it that.
It's like someone took half of a normal relationship and called it a "fetish".
>Having a beautiful gf.
>Being held and comforted by her after trauma
>Slowly being fed warm soup when sick while she whispers sweet words into your ear
>Being the little spoon
>Missionary sex with her on top.
>Feeling soft-warmness as you cuddle
>Don't want to get up because it feels so comfortable to be safe in her arms under the covers
>Burying your face into her breasts to get closer to her
>Light teasing to wakefulness.
These are things that BOTH partners in a relationship do and feel.
Honestly, I'd describe it as "a relationship amongst equals" without going all BDSM and call it "switch".
But society dictates that the man is the person always calling the shots and being unemotional and hard while woman only gets to voice her opinion and be emotional about issues.
I really don't feel comfortable with socialized services for stuff like healthcare. If I have the money, I want to be able to pay for my treatment, not possibly put on a waitlist. I know that's not the case for everything, and small things like a flu, it's perfect for. Walk in, get medicine, walk out. No bills.
And not that I own guns, but muh gun rights. The only other thing I don't know is locksmith rights.
Also, I like having a feeling that my votes matter at a local level. I'm sure for bigger elections my vote doesn't mean jackshit and there's probably someone out there pulling strings, but my local governments at least listen to the people.
And I've found the salaries in the US are alright, even if we don't get as much service/holiday. Federal holidays are also every where.
>Higher taxes in those countries, plus gas and food is cheaper here
Taxes yes. That's how we pay higher-lever education, health care, etc.
I only had to pay small % (think 5-10%)of my university fees as an "acknowledgement" but I could afford it with summer jobs waitering or similar and not have to ever worry about student debt (which from what I hear is systemic in the US). My parents didn't have to pay insane amounts to get me to a good high school, the building was not in disrepair and the roads are all in good condition (when I visitted New York I was shocked at the state of the roads).
I don't have to worry that when I get sick if I can afford to go to the doctor or afford the medicine, I do not have to worry about how long I will be sick, the state tells me when I am or not fit to work and the employers knows I am not pulling their leg and being a lazy asshole but have a genuine health issue.
Yes. You know why this is not an issue? Public transportation here fucking rocks. It's reasonably priced and you can get to the other side of a major european city in less than an hour and the monthly fee will be between 60 and 120$ (London is obviously more expensive than say Marseille or Rome) and are well-kept. The European train networks are fast and reliable (most countries have high-speed trains that will take you across the country for 40$ in 3 hours with no need to go through Airport security checks, sometimes even across countries [equivalent to states in size]).
And even if you get a car and pay expensive gas prices they tend to be fuel efficient enough that it's not a big deal.
Part of it is because food is heavily subsidized here but drinks and food are cheaper here. Then again, I only got to see food prizes in New York but food was about the same while drinks were insanely overprized (+ soft drinks here contain sugar, not corn syrup).
Also, you are not taking into account all the expenses you get as an American
...Wait what? I don't use healthcare that often. I gave an example of why most people find it useful. I'm saying I would normally only use it if it's drastic and in socialized systems would probably put me on a waitlist.
I mean, the last time I went to a doctor's office was to get my inhaler, and even that was fairly cheap 2 years ago. I'm 20 and fairly healthy and don't need my inhaler except in the winter for a few days. I'm not going to pay taxes so that someone else gets that benefit, I'll work my ass off to afford my own health insurance.
Kind of moot now, as the government rammed that law on us.
I'm an 18 year old Australian that had heart surgery earlier this year. Without universal health care I would be either dead or thousands of dollars in debt. It cost each person in my country less than a penny to save my life.
I feel like we've gotten off-topic for some reason.
>You pay for it in taxes, money has to come from somewhere.
>Nothing is free.
It's still much more expensive for the US population to be paying it out of their individual pockets than to have a socialized system like in Europe.
You guys are throwing away millions because of your pride just like you are doing with a ton of other stuff where socialized spending is clearly the superior solution.
You are still going to pay up once you get sick (and you WILL get sick at some point), you guys just seem to love shooting yourselves in the foot.
>I know that's not the case for everything, and small things like a flu, it's perfect for. Walk in, get medicine, walk out. No bills.
Guess what, you can still do that if you are not very sick and don't think it warrants a doctor's visit, you'll just pay 10 times the price for that medicine.
>And not that I own guns, but muh gun rights.
You can apply for a license if you like hunting.
Why the fuck would you need a gun in Europe? We don't have guys who can assault you with a gun because they cannot just go into walmart and buy them.
>I like having a feeling that my votes matter at a local level.
They don't. Look up gerrymandering and campaign donations.
At least our politians are upfront about it.
>I'm sure for bigger elections my vote doesn't mean jackshit and there's probably someone out there pulling strings, but my local governments at least listen to the people.
That also applies here. Local politicians can easily be thrown out of the mayor's office.
>And I've found the salaries in the US are alright, even if we don't get as much service/holiday. Federal holidays are also every where.
Those also exist in Europe, just the regional equivalent. You know what else we get? Labour protection laws, benefits if we get fired and several months(!) or parental leave if we get a kid.
New York is an awful comparison, it's one of the highest taxed states in the country, along with other factors. I live just south of the nation's capital, and on rural farm land. I can take a bus ride from here all the way to New York City in 5 hours, and pay $18 round trip. Not to mention my university struck a deal with the local bus service so you can get a free ride around the area too.
I will give Europeans credit, your public transportation is fucking awesome.
University is the only thing I can't say anything about. It is just expensive.
Y'know, I feel like that too... I am happy that your system worked out for you, and you're able to share your experience. My family is fairly healthy, so we haven't had to deal with things like that. I'm just concerned that when the time comes for something like that, if I lived in a universalized healthcare system, I'd be told I'm not fit for the surgery and basically be left to die. Irrational? Probably very. But that's what I mean when I say I've grown used to the US.
I think that's more of a Hollywood thing rather than what actual relationships entail.
Most relationships are based on both people being honest and open with each other.
Perhaps why there's a lack of gfd material, because it's not really a fetish, but rather the desire for a female to initiate contact due to feelings of inadequacy, fear of rejection, or other such psychological barriers.
gfd only becomes a "fetish" and thus, material is only found when you actually make it fetishized.
>Young adventurer goes out to find his fortune
>Explores a dungeon
>Finds a treasure room in the dungeon
>He's so happy because now he can pay for the medicine to save his sick sibling.
>In comes a beautiful lamia, who owns the treasure
>Informs him that the treasure is hers and that he must defeat her if he wants it.
>He doesn't want to steal from a monster that won't attack him first.
>He apologizes and with a sigh, he walks to the door, shoulders slumped, anticipating the trials of the next dungeon.
>The lamia has never seen this happen before.
>She slithers slowly, silently behind him and then wraps him up on her smooth coils.
>Pulling his face inbetween her breasts which strain against the sheer fabric of her shirt she whispers huskily into his ear.
>"I've attacked you. What will you do now?"
>He's stunned, his words won't come out.
>She bites him on the neck to relax him. She uses venom that sends the recipient into a calming bliss.
>He's completely unable to resist now. Wrapped within her, listening to her hypnotic whisper, and with her aphrodisiac venom coursing through his veins.
>Lamia uses him, makes him feel so good, so happy, wondering why he ever wanted to leave in the first place.
>Lamia questions him about his intentions.
>He wakes up, still wrapped in her coils, with her arms around his head, pressing him to her.
>She flutters her eyelids open
>Unwraps him from her but still holds him to her with her arms.
>Gives him a little bit of her treasure to pay for his siblings disease
>Tells him that he can go on his adventure, but she'll always be here
You are healthy NOW. That shit goes downhill faster than you would ever believe.
But sure, if you want to roll the dice and die young, suit yourself.
>Kind of moot now, as the government rammed that law on us.
If you think Obamacare is comparable to European socialized Health Care you are grossly misinformed.
You basically have created a Frankenstein monster were a bunch of private companies get to run like monopolies and monopsonies in your country with almost no accountability which such a 'MURRICAN thing to do (like the way you run your ISPs).
>systems would probably put me on a waitlist.
What waitlist? You wait 30 minutes (basically whoever is in front of you) and you are in and out and don't have to guess if you only have a bad case of flu or something serious.
Or do you mean a doctor's appointment with a specialist? Those also happen in the US, that's not a "waitlist" it's specialists having limited time and a lot of people to screen through.
Whatever nonsense you have heard of "death panels" is just propaganda by idiots who would call any state intervention "communism" let alone know the difference between communism, socialism, anarchism and secularism.
Anyway, the thread is derailing, we could take this to /int/ if you insist.
>Those also exist in Europe, just the regional equivalent. You know what else we get? Labour protection laws, benefits if we get fired and several months(!) or parental leave if we get a kid.
We have those too, not sure why you think otherwise.
As for the politics, yeah. You don't know. You don't live here. Campaign donations and gerrymandering happen, I'm aware. That doesn't mean my votes don't matter. They'd probably have more power without those influences, but at least they mean something.
>Thats a case study for /you/ you benefit for /me/ yeah no.
And this is where America and Europe are different. Each person in my country effectively paid less than 1 penny to save my life. You guys would have let me die if it meant you saved a penny.
Even discounting life-saving surgery, my friend had perforated eardrums. In America he would spend his life panicking over getting water in his years as that would make him deaf for life, here he got 14 years of checkups and the eventual experimental surgery for free. He can finally go in a swimming pool thanks to universal healthcare, in America he wouldn't have the money for something so unimportant.
Again though, we're way off-topic.
>You are still going to pay up once you get sick (and you WILL get sick at some point), you guys just seem to love shooting yourselves in the foot.
Lets see, the last time I went to a doctor was, about 12 years ago due to hitting a brick wall, never once have I gone simply because I sneezed, "got sick" or whatever. so still in the green
>Why the fuck would you need a gun in Europe? We don't have guys who can assault you with a gun because they cannot just go into walmart and buy them.
Yes, because guns are the only way to assault someone, clearly.
>Labour protection laws benifits we get fired and several months(!)
Yeah we get payed if we get fired too, parental leave aswell, and the right to sue if we don't get those.
So, yeah a wash would be a good word for this comparison.
>Lets see, the last time I went to a doctor was, about 12 years ago due to hitting a brick wall, never once have I gone simply because I sneezed, "got sick" or whatever. so still in the green
And your mother? Your father? Sisters? Brothers? Friends? None of them have ever been ill or had an injury? None of them have ever complained about medical bills?
Gah, I'll never understand the selfishness of the average American.
That picture, and that story.
>I'd be told I'm not fit for the surgery and basically be left to die. Irrational? Probably very. But that's what I mean when I say I've grown used to the US.
That NEVER happens.
The only instance where this happens in Europe is:
1.) You just tried to take your own life with drugs and need a transplant. You will get put on the famous "waitlist" but you are dead last in priority and will probably die from the drugs before you get a spot.
2.) You are too old to warrant a succesful surgery. We are sorry, you could pay it out of your pocket, but if there is a significant chance you'll die in the operating table we are not going to waste taxpayer dollars/euros on what might get you killed
In any other instance, you'll be placed in priority according to how urgent your situation is. You can still decide to bypass the waiting lists paying out of your pocket, it's neither illegal nor criminal but in some cases (like organ transplants) that's not going to fly because even the private health care companies will have waiting lists for those cases and not even necessarily better coverage (a lot of the companies used by private companies are just public institutions where they paid to renew the equipment so they get favourable conditions for their private health care "club").
But at least nobody is going to go broke or denied service because they are broke once they get ill or have a major medical issue.
Wow anon. Your family must either share DNA with Wolverine or never do anything if none of you have ever had an injury or illness. Not one case of the flu? Not one sprained ankle? Not even chickenpox when you were a child? Damn. I wanna know your secret.
Regardless, my point is still valid. If society didn't train women to be subservient housewives, we'd all have loving /rr/ girlfriends and wives right now. Hell, /rr/ wouldn't even really be a fetish, it would be a common everyday type of relationship.
I often get the impression that the reason only "healthy" Americans always show up on threads about the issue and seem to have never needed to go to a doctor is because of a darwinian society they are encouraging with the lack of socialized public health, meaning those who would most need it died before they could produce offspring and those left behind don't give a damn about the fact they live in an eugenic society.
I'd say we're at least 1.5 Hendersons off-topic. Unless...
>You wake up
>quiet beeps of machinery
>you're lying on a bed dressed in white
>it's tough to move
>you feel like you're made of lead
>your /rr/ girlfriend is on a chair next to you
>You try to call her name
>a lot croakier than usual
>feels like your tongue is made of sandpaper
>she jumps at the sound
>her eyes whip round to see you
>dark circles; she looks like she's been awake for a while
>"Oh anon, I'm so glad! You were making dinner and you suddenly collapsed! I carried you in to the hopsital myself
>"They said you might not have made it if I hadn't been so quick"
>you look up at her, glad to be alive
>and it's all because of her
>then horror strikes you
>"but how are we going to pay for it"
>"it's alright anon, we live in the UK, so because of the NHS even though neither of us have a good job you're still going to survive"
>you lie back, reassured
>if this was America you'd probably be dead because you couldn't pay for an operation
>you're alive because your girlfriend is smart and strong and because you live in a country that doesn't ask you to pay to stay alive
Anon that apparently started this shitposting, I doubt we'll convince other people to start believing anything otherwise. Take it to /int/ or fucking /pol/, let's just get back to /gfd/.
How many days of your life have you been sick?
ALRIGHT ALL YOU MEDFAGS, TAKE IT OUTSIDE. OR MORE SPECIFICALLY HERE
THIS IS A PLACE OF CUDDLES, HEADPATS AND THE OCCASIONAL STRAP-ON UP THE BUTT. UNLESS THAT STRAP-ON'S COME LOOSE AND IS STUCK UP THERE I DON'T WANT TO HEAR ONE MORE MENTION OF THE HOSPITAL, GOT IT?
NO MA'AM I THINK I'M PRIVATE STEWART MA'AM.
YOU THINK YOU'RE GONNA GET SOME GENTLE LOVING ANON?
OH NO. SEEING AS YOU'RE SO DESPERATE TO LIGHT UP THE ROOM, I'M GONNA SHOVE MY DESK LAMP SO FAR INSIDE YOU THAT EVERYTIME YOU OPEN YOUR MOUTH IT'LL FUCKING GLOW. AND I'M GONNA MAKE YOU FUCK CARLOS WHILST I DO IT.