Why the hate anon ??

>>43138
She sobered up and got a bad haircut. Thats the long and short of it

Her hair

>>43138
>Was pushed as the next big thing despite never being great shit to begin with
>Despite the big push, her comics by KSD were bad
>Was rewarded in-universe for being a fascistic asshole while a hero trying to save his people from being gassed to death became "LITERALLY HITLER"
>"HSE IS THE GREATEST AND YOU HAVE TO LOVE HER" isn't a great way to convince readers that she is good.

I'm glad for her failure. Carolfags are subhumans.

>>43470
Agreed with this.

The problem with Carol is the same problem with Mickey Mouse

Because Mickey is the main guy, he was placed under special care so that he was never portrayed badly and his name and image was never ruined. He was a bland every man who had no opinions and never joined in on the slapstick. In his early cartoons he drank, smoked, got into sword fights, abused animals and kissed Minnie at the end of the short. After he became big, he wasn't allowed to do and by of that. Because of that he was boring, and Donald and Goofy stuck out more since they were allowed to be silly and flawed.

Now Carol is in the same boat. She's under so much protection that no one can really do anything. She's loved by everyone in universe, she's never allowed to be wrong and and all her flaws are superficial and her conflicts are easy to overcome. As Ms Marvel she drank, was mocked, abandoned, and took joy in killing Skulls and Brood aND was very opinionated. Now she's not allowed to do any of that. As a result, she comes off as boring and Monica and Blue Marvel come off as more interesting.

She needs an Epic Mickey or something to return her early edge back. But that won't happen, at least until the movie comes out

>>45673
As Ms. Marvel she was a bitch that spanked a woman in front of her daughter.

If we have to choose between a bitch or a bland YAAS QUEEN, I would rather have nothing, and I am not alone, seeing how she can't sell for shit.

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continuing from yesterday .

>>43138

More like what DIDN'T go wrong?

Honestly, the only thing that went right is her new haircut. I want more heroines with short hair.

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>>43138
The ONLY good is Illuminated Comics Carol

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>>46764
Good taste.

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>>46733

what is this fucking abomination

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Shazam

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>>47043
This

>>43138
her hair and lesbian demeanor

>>43138
>what went Wrong with her push
She hasn't slept with Spider-Woman yet.

>>43138
if you skip KSD's run nothing went wrong.

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>>43138
She needs to be better written. 2006 seemed to point into a growth during the second half. but everything was thrown out the window when the push started.
>>45673
the protection only started with the whole captain marvel thing. she was portrayed as a pretty bitch whore during her comics tho. everytime the responsability was too much too handle she chased after a dick. also the amount of times her plans backfired and 90% of the people around her ended up dead is quite high

>>43138
No one like butch dykes

>>46754

Fuck off Anka. And quit cutting off everyone's tits

>>43138
>Also what went Wrong with her push
As with most things marvel pushes, no fucking finesse. When shit's too hamfisted you can't help but groan and lose interest.

>>48064
Well, Stohl started out promising with 0 but each issue has gotten worse since.

At least the TV show got tossed, I guess. Weirdly Secret Empire might do it a big favor by getting it away from the wackiness for a while.

She's just fucking absolutely retarded SJW pandering. Can't stand up as her own character even if a multibillion company pushes her lmao.

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>>48561
She just needs to be paired with a femme, like Jess.

If you don't like her you are literally a siding with Hitler.

>>45673

Fuck that's a good post. Nobody really likes Mickey, everybody loves Donald. Even as a kid I thought Mickey was boring as hell character and only really liked his stories for Pete.

>>46625
PAD
Nononononono.
But that's just my opinion, man.

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>>49403
Korn

>>43470
/thread

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Anybody have the original of this? Is she growing her hair for animated Secret Wars?

>>48963
true

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>>43138
Anka turning her into Steve Rogers.

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>>43138
carol /ck/ thread.

>>43138
Ever since being Ms.Marvel wasn't good enough she became a shit character.

Captain Marvel saved the Marvel universe and Ms.Marvel took the mantel, if that isn't good enough then become your own hero with a new name not hijack the name of your mentor while treating him like a woman hating Nazi when obviously he respect women enough to pass his mantel onto one...

>>43467
also this

>>45673
The sad thing is Mickey is awesome in those new shorts, so Disney's not completely afraid to let him do stuff anymore. On the other hand I doubt Carol will ever get her personality back.

>>50592
Carol loves Mar-Vell though. She didn't even take the title until Captain America told her to.

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>>45673
Have you watched the newer shorts they put out on youtube? Mickey gets angry, makes bad choices, gets hurt, does dumb shit, him and Minnie are a real couple who actually kiss and show affection, and just in general its pretty funny and a lot more down to earth

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>>50551

>>43138
At the core, she was a very "neo-con" character who they tried to make appealing to feminists. It's like looking at a steak dinner and saying to yourself "how can I market this to vegetarians?"

>>47043
it's marlo, child of satan

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>>45673
The best Carol was ALIAS Bendis Carol.

Prove me wrong.

Protip: you can't.

I haven't kept up with comics. Has Genis-Vell been brought back yet? What's taking so long? Songbird and him were my OTP. Why is Marvel denying us?

>>52939
marvel aborted him and his sis cause they take away from the yas queen

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>>52804
Butters/Anka murderyke-EMH Carol.

>>48909
No. Fuck off, I am so sick of the "OMG CUTE LESBIAN COUPLE" meme.

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>>53534
Get used to it, soon 95% of all fiction characters are going to be tumblr non white sexual queers. Blame the left.

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>>54055

>>43138
>Also what went Wrong

You see the pic you posted?
Look the breast, the face and the hair cut
She looks like a man
and the stories of the past 5 years are awful

>>49279
>>49240

>Rick Jones beating Moondragon

You have got to be kidding me

she is lesbian and bad hair cut..........

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>>54989
She has a good hair cut and SHOULD be lesbian. But Marvel is too cowardly.

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Can't wait for Generations

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The end

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>>55238
Same

>>55416
I miss him. Thanks Preach

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>>43138
She was like many, not marketed to the core comicbook reading demographic so:

1st. Nobody in the general public knows who the fuck Ms.Marvel is/was

2nd. Nobody in the general public even knows the fucker she replaced.
The OG captain marvel had several replacements and was at best the Marvel equivalent of The Martian Manhunter

3rd. She isn't just unattractive she is substantially unfeminine.
The vast majority of men are heterosexual and they like attractive women, but between practically every damn female Marvel heroine it seems they don't understand that or no longer care.
For the other part trust me when I say that more women at least like feminine looking characters than what easily looks like the textbook visual of a dyke.

4th. She is written as an idiotic sociopath because she is written by idiotic sociopaths.

>>56103
Same here. You Welcome anon.

>>52477
So you're saying that Carol Danvers is basically Hillary Clinton.

>>43138
She didn't earn her "greatness", instead it was manufatured by marketing and shoved in everyone's faces.
One day out of no where, all her problems and faults magically disappeared, she took on the Captain Marvel name, and Marvel more or less rewrote the universe around her just automatically acknowledging how incredible she is without having actually done anything to deserve it. And readers were just supposed to accept it. It was wrting with the same quality as bad fan fiction, with Captain Carol suddenly becoming a super Mary Sue.
If they had gone into her series with some degree of humilty and accepted that Carol was going to have to WORK to gain respect, and then actually show her doing so, then maybe it wouldn't have been so bad.
When the new Ms. Marvel (Kamala Kahn) was just starting out, we had the whole "newbie hero wroking her way up" bit; that's what made it work, before they pushed her too much. But with Captain Marvel, female Thor and America Chavez? Nope, no hard work required. We just suddenly have to accept that they are the greatest-evar-no- questions-asked-or-else-you're-thinking-wrong.

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>>58063
>She didn't earn her "greatness", instead it was manufatured by marketing and shoved in everyone's faces.
Where? That wasn't a thing until after CW2 and everybody who actually knows her thinks her fans are dumb.

>>43183
>no one liked the run I liked
>it got cancelled
>now she's getting a roman reigns tier push
>now normalfags love her and "always did" because a movie
>character shares very few similarities to what she used to be like

Improved costume and stupid haircut aside I'm salty.

>>58845
>That wasn't a thing until after CW2
Is a thing since she became Cap. Marvel.

Marvel does nothing but tells the public how amazing the character is. No good stories, just press.

>>58976
>now normalfags love her
>implying normalfgs know her to begin with

>>58989
First KSD volume and ANAD run were good.

>>59149
If you're retarded, sure.

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>>60455
Cute.

>>55348
Feels.

>>43470
This.

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>>62067
Nice reaction

The early push was fine. Not the masterpiece that the "Carol Corps" people claim it is, but not awful, either. It was never more than B+ comics but that's not bad coming from a C- publisher like Marvel.

BUT, then Civil War II came along and made Carol into a complete shitheel of a person, while at the same time making it seem like the heroes of 616 adored her above anyone else.

It's a fucking mess, and at this point I feel like the only thing that can save Carol is a radical new direction, or just killing her off so she can be resurrected/relaunched when the movie comes out.

>>43183
>>43467
I genuinely like her haircut. I think it's hot as fuck.

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