ITT: Concept art
Im loving these designs
Alright im done. Hope all of these get added to the game
https://www.artstation.com/artwork/kXn9x
sauce
>>95098628
Best one
>>95098407
Those panels on the legs look stupid and kill the whole thing.
>>95098391
There are aspects of this I like, but it went too far in some places (the fur) and not far enough in others (the arms).
Overall, worse than what they went with.
>>95098797
imagine being this wrong
>>95099018
It's bad. Like really shit. The design they went with is also trash but this is worse. Sorry you have shit taste.
>>95099140
>hating on fur and those clean sleeves
YOU have the shit taste anon
>>95099200
I don't hate fur, I hate the placement of it. It should surround the brim of his hood, the connecting area of his sleeves and gloves and his pants and boots.
The sleeves are too sleak and clash completely. It is however still better than if they went sleeveless. New 52 Captain Cold's design was the worst.
>>95098497
The aiming device in the head makes sense but what purpose does the other bits of metal serve?
>>95098641
Wow, she actually looks Greek.
>>95098516
Wait, was Kyle supposed to be in at first? God damn it, he's my favorite Lantern too.
>>95098448
Damn that suit looks good, Firestorm could have done with gear that had less greebles. Not to mention something to give him the old genie sleeves and pointed shoulders.
>>95098582
The right one looks damn nice, but honestly I wish people would just use The Batman's design for her.
It's perfection with that rose petal hair design.
>>95098597
this one looked so much better than what we got
>>95098208
I actually can't stand spiky aquaman.
How tf is he supposed to swim ultra fast with all that?
Light armour like on his legs would have done just fine, maybe with one piece of metal armour on the shoulders
Post more concept art
>>95102802
It's honestly super interesting how a kids show like Ben 10 has such graphic concept art
K I D S S H O W
>>95102947
K I D S S H O W F O R K I D S
>lines lines lines
>carbon fiber underarmour nike gym tech
Stonk floi
>>95098570
>What if Tim became Nightwing
>>95102947
neat
instead, suits
Upchog
Stank moth
I don't think a single one of these has looked good. And I get to the bottom of that atomhawk faggots designs and it all made sense.
There are a few cardinal sins for redesigning Superman.And this one hit them all.
If you RD Supes always keep in mind:
>No collar.
>Don't connect the shield and cape.
>No cowl (or in this case half cowl).
>No armor
>No gloves
He doesn't have any boots, he doesn't have any yellow, he doesn't have a belt or anything to split up the blue. This is legitimately one of the worse superman designs ever.
I fucking hate every single one of you injustice fags. Seriously. Fuck off. You don't read comics or watch cartoons. You like power levels and tacticool costumes. Fuck off.
>>95098305
Wow, this is so horrendous.
>>95103002
Some of these designs are very Kirby-esque.
christ
@95103089
What's his problem
>>95103095
What are you talking about?
It is awesome!
A terrible Black Adam, but a great design.
>>95103098
Considering the original show's general aesthetic, it doesn't surprise me at all
>>95103133
Taking a simple design and adding LINES LINES LINES for "realism" is not a great design.
>>95100486
Kyles canonically dead in injustiverse
>>95098448
Who set Cobra Commander on fire?
>>95098497
>>95100402
I just ripped every single one of this kids designs but this one actually kinda makes sense to me. Arrow and bats should be the only two in armor.
Yet Superman looks like his armor could take more damage than Queen's.
>>95103095
this is almost as egregious as superman. Shazamfam should ONLY ever be in simple fabric uniforms. The lack of proper Shazamfam arm-guards and sash is despicable.
>>95103132
fuck off atomhawk. stealth (You)s should be bannable. It completely disregards the point of this site. If you don't like my opinion and want to discuss it do so correctly. Otherwise why did you come here other than to shill your garbage?
>ITT illustrators who are "technically" skilled, but lack any ounce of design sense
>>95103186
Hey buddy, might wanna calm down a wee bit. Also gotta agree on your point against 60 billion extra lines ruining a good suit.
>>95103153
Goddamn, that's majestic.
If the Strange movies ever bring Dormammu into more focus, this will be great. It'll also be weird to have one actor playing both the hero and the villain.
>>95103089
>>95103186
Autistic rage babies should be a bannable offense. It's alright not to like something (you have shit taste) but don't make this your rant blog.
>>95098464
HOLY FUCK THIS IS ABSOLUTELY FUCKING TERRIBLE
Did they artist conflate Shazam and Flash or is than an amalgamated version?
>>95102994
Who let Beksiński enter the MCU?
>>95103228
The guy is offering arguments and inviting discussion. Pointless shitposts like yours should be a bannable offense.
>>95103228
>Autistic rage babies should be a bannable offense.
there wouldn't be anyone left. other than maybe some stealh replying faggots.
You not liking my reply or tone doesn't mean that was a blog post or rant. It was completely on topic. The faggot using this site to dump his terrible designs should be who you direct this comment at. This isn't deviant art. Why do you think it's okay for OP to shit the board up with terrible designs and yet you call someone responding to it a blog post?
>>95103228
t. atomhawk
Your shit is awful and contrived, go study visual design
>>95103252
>I fucking hate every single one of you injustice fags. Seriously. Fuck off. You don't read comics or watch cartoons. You like power levels and tacticool costumes. Fuck off.
>inviting discussion
Just post concept art and shut up anon
>>95103292
Don't be so mad, Atomhawk. Everything in that comment is true.
>>95103162
Who said anything about realism?
The design and colors have an awesome Art-Deco flavor in it. And Deco was averything but realism. All those geometric patterns and the use of lines following the metal are great.
>>95103270
>This isn't deviant art. Why do you think it's okay for OP to shit the board up with terrible designs and yet you call someone responding to it a blog post?
Am I being baited? This is a concept art thread post whatever you want.
>>95103292
>Muh-muh-muh designs are cool, man stop calling them bad
>Pls, no bulli, just post pictures say "cool"
I admit my last line was a bit over-board but it hasn't been refuted. And the smarmy responses pretty much tell you the intention of this thread was for OP, maybe atom himself, to shill these pictures.
>>95103320
No you aren't being bated. My point wasn't that this thread doesn't belong it was that it is no more a blog post than my reply.
Both have a place here; Shitty concepts and people calling them shitty concepts.
>>95103313
Dude, the pointless detail is a foolish attempt at rendering texture and make it more "life-like." See: Every design in the MCU. The only art-deco aspects are what remains of the original and simple comic design.
>>95103323
>the intention of this thread was for OP, maybe atom himself, to shill these pictures.
I am OP. I saw some great art, downloaded it, and then made a concept art thread. This isn't shilling since I could've made a stormhawk thread. I've been making threads where I dump marvel concept art and I never get called a marvel shill.
>>95103313
Art Deco done correctly resembles TAS and 90s Gotham architecture.
Art Deco done poorly resembles that Black Adam design. specifically because it isn't lines that define AD but shapes made from the relationship of the lines and blank space between them.
>>95103345
>the poster number isn't going up
No need to samefag
>>95103434
And now we ABSOLUTELY know you're a newfag.
You realize posting more than once in the same thread isn't samefagging, correct?
>>95103472
It is when you reply to the same post
See >>95103228 replies
>>95103401
Right, because Deco is always so subtle and never over the top.
Nothing ever was done for the purpose of form, and everything was just function.
>>95103571
Actually it's when you act as two separate people. it has nothing to do with a base action and everything to do with intention.
And just FYI, this was me:
>>95103270
The rest were not.
>>95103580
I never said it was subtle. I said it was about the shapes created from the lines and angles.
I don't know where you read the word subtle in relation to art deco. It's literally the most gaudy style of design you can employ.
>>95103624
>doesn't like the stuff I posted
That's fine people have different taste
>doesn't post anything for more discussion
>instead uses thread as blog to rant about the injustice boogymen out of nowhere.
>people eat it up
I'm just baffled by this.
>>95103777
Why is your post different then mine? Why is your posting 50 images of shit not a blog post but my on-topic reply is?
>instead uses thread as blog to rant about the injustice boogymen out of nowhere.
That's really where you got stuck. I made a one off comment the rest of the comments I made were directly about the design. And then you decided criticism was worth stealth replying like a fucking faggot.
There was a fuckton to discuss but since my last point was what you focused on it seems it was actually pretty accurate.
Refute a single point from it. Or discuss. Whatever word you want.
Here, and again I'm clicking to remind you the reply, this is my post. I know you newfags seem to have trouble with the samefag concept:>>95103089
>>95103861
>Why is your posting 50 images of shit not a blog post but my on-topic reply is?
Are you really this dense? I posted pictures and instead of critisizing like a normal poster you went the "not muh" route then even worse you just started attacking Injustice anon like they all like the same thing. Your post was so ridiculous I thought it was bait. My bad.
>>95103988
>Your post was so ridiculous I thought it was bait. My bad.
That's so ridiculous I think it's bait.
Why don't you try replying, still. Why do you disagree with my points about Superman?
>>95100908
you're joking right? It barely covers anything. If she's gonna be like 15% naked bother?
>>95104029
It's an alternative evil superman, it works. And even I hate the things you listed like collars and gloves.
>>95098351
ugh that Brainy is too edgy
>>95104252
watch out, atom might call this a blog post.
Technically /v/-related but I'll post some Darkstalkers concept art
>>95104701
>>95104733
>>95104763
>>95104794
>>95104811
>>95104829
>>95104701
E
>>95104733
A
>>95104763
A or B
>>95104794
A or D
>>95104811
A or B, the rest are absolute shit jesus christ
>>95104851
C
>>95104851
F with E skin tone
>>95104733
>F is literally just Hanged Man from Jojo
>>95105155
you should never get rid of freckles
>>95098208
NRS is exclusively run by hacks.
>>95098208
Aquaman about to drop the freshest rap metal album of 2001.
>>95105544
Bringin you ya fix of the King Curry mix!
>>95105613
Not
>I been A. Curry with the flow
>Been swimmin' like a fish, King Curry with the stroke, boy
Missed opps famalam.
>>95103241
it's not great...but why was your first thought Shazam and not Jay?
>>95102994
Dormammu?
>>95098448
Looks like lile that Legion guy.
>>95105385
its like they put all the effort into the hair
>>95105417
I like this wondy. she seems cute
>>95105738
Because he wears blue pants. That image has no blue. The lightening bolt is similar but Garrick's very clearly tapers at the top, this has similar thickness top and bottom.
>>95106108
the far left is literally diana from martin mystery
>>95105486
I love how all the concept art for older bob is depressed as fuck
Also I'd really like to see what Incredibles would be like as a 2D movie
>>95098497
One on the left would be amazing if the torso was more of a solid green and didn't have those black lines breaking it up.
>>95104132
I think he's talking about the New 52 outfit which is what that design is based off of.
>>95100470
Not really
>>95102889
God I wish...
>>95106185
This series would've been more successful without the redesigns, contrasting the seriousness of the gritty monster apocalypse with the familiar cartoon designs.
>>95106718
Most will disagree, but I think its way cuter than the final one. This has more character to it.
>>95106788
>>95106718
missed a full body shot
Would probably be harder to animate
>>95103861
God I can't wait til school's back in for you little fucks.
>>95098448
Firestorm will never not make me think of McDonald's.
>>95106718
Looks too much like Aang.
>>95106839
I've been posting here for the better part of a decade and I haven't been in school for half of that time. So fuck yourself faggot. If people don't want to discuss design in a design thread where the fuck else would they like to? If anything you're the" pls no bulli" type of newfag who's been shitting this place up. I've provided more than enough discussion even beyond the fucking atomhawk garbage that started that conversation and this thread.
Why the fuck is talking shit now such a fucking blast of sand to your vaginas? How fucking new are you to comics and /co/ and really the internet in general if my fucking opinion about this faggots designs offends you so much?
>>95106839
Also, it's fucking September. School is back in session for the kiddies and the college kids. So it's a little late for the "summerfag" shit newfag.
>>95107266
>>95107193
It's not the fact that you talked shit, it's the fact that it was unwarranted and out of nowhere. Just calm down anon.
>>95107320
>unwarranted and out of nowhere
I replied to the topic and included one line at the end which clearly struck a nerve. Multiple anons agreed with my points and noted that the faggot was being a faggot and clearly just didn't like the criticism.
Shit talking on the internet is never unwarranted faggot. Don't fucking insinuate I'm the summerfag and sit there being a fucking pussy while I'm one of the only people actually discussing shit. What's unwarranted it stealth replies and dodging criticism cause "muh feelings" and "muh injustice". Fuck you. Respond to my fucking points about superman or quit shitting up the thread with off topic shit.
>>95107320
>I don't think a single one of these has looked good. And I get to the bottom of that atomhawk faggots designs and it all made sense.
>There are a few cardinal sins for redesigning Superman.And this one hit them all.
>If you RD Supes always keep in mind:
>>No collar.
>>Don't connect the shield and cape.
>>No cowl (or in this case half cowl).
>>No armor
>>No gloves
>He doesn't have any boots, he doesn't have any yellow, he doesn't have a belt or anything to split up the blue. This is legitimately one of the worse superman designs ever.
Aside from the last line almost all of that is actual criticism. Making actual points. Find another single post doing that ITT. I guarantee it'll be another one of mine. I actually care about design and iconography.
>>95098448
Looks like he came from the Box Art Mega Man universe.
>>95105933
yes
>>95098628
Woah, he actually looks like an imposing god. Pretty cool.
>tfw no good hd art of the best capeshit redesign in years
>>95107600
>>95107506
>let's ignore that last line that revealed his autism
You have serious anger issues dude and
I'm not even that guy that called you a summerfag.
>Respond to my fucking points about superman
I did.
>>95104236
>>95108063
way to stay on topic faggot.
>>95108115
I guess you got btfo anon. Good day
>>95108430
I'm still here if you'd like to talk costume design. I've just gotten sick of defending my post when almost every response is just the same faggish reply.
Way to stay on topic though.
>>95108472
Cool. What's your favorite design from the thread?
>>95098611
Without the horrible red crotch thing, the costume actually looks pretty cool. Huh.
>>95105317
Half of these look like they'd get summoned by the Horn of Valere.
>>95098545
wow, harley actually looks deranged instead of just a scene chick
>>95106185
What the FUCK did they do to Shaggy? He looks like a Yuppie douchenozzle, not a cowardly stoner. The rest of them have fairly decent redesigns, how did they drop the ball on one of the two most recognizable characters?
>>95109278
I legitimately don't mind the /a/-ish redesigns here. And that's usually something I'm not a fan of. I think these are a good mix of current(rebirth and classic. I think smaller superman makes sense in that the japanese don't necessarily rely on the visual shorthand of "big=powerful" as much.
I also think atomhawk had a few good ones with >>95098422
and
>>95098582
maybe even
>>95098597
>>95109457
Heh, if Perlmutter knew how cheap it is to make Anime, he'd try and get Disney to sign off on it.
>>95109489
There isn't an anime studio in the world that would agree to draw Danvers in the state she is now. She would absolutely have to be in the Ms Marvel unitard with the 80s anime bundled up socks.
>>95109540
It's a shame women these days tend to think that femininity isn't genuine unless you look butch. To each their own I guess, I'll ogle pretty much anything that looks appealing.
>>95098464
Oh god Barry what did they do to you?
>>95103241
>>95109687
Don't even lie that helmet is litty
>>95110179
it's shit. as with most of his redesigns.
>>95098391
Looking at this again it's even worse than I first thought.
>>95098338
How do you fuck up blue's design? It's suppose to be simple but this is just cluttered.
>>95098570
Nightwing cannot get a good redesign, huh
>>95103004
>>95111929
its tim
>>95098448
Man, Firestorm fucking sucks.
Some of the best Manta designs I've ever seen.
>>95098422
>ywn tickle Cheetah's feet for information on the Legion of Doom
>>95104252
I can of hate how Brainiac has become another "tank" character.
I love how in the Silver Age, he wasn't necessarily the strongest, but he challenged Superman with his mind, and had that inpenetrable force field, so that Superman couldn't just punch him out.
I don't mind the idea of making him strong enough to go toe-to-toe with Superman, but his basic design should still emphasize that he is a mental character over a physical character. I'm not really into the whole tacticool alien-armour big-guy look. I understand not putting him in short-shorts, but just put him in something minimalistic and streamlined.
>>95098208
Is he wearing sharks on his hips?
>>95098641
Playing up the red and blue with too little gold puts her too far into looking like a Superman-family character redesign, rather than looking like Wonder Woman. Strays too far from the core design elements.
>>95098628
Ew.
>>95098611
Weird shoulder things are kinda cool, make her look like a space queen. Basic design is interesting, it's just overdesigned.
>>95098597
I like this one.
>>95098582
Meh. nu52 Ivy costume is boring. Never liked the post-Hush "green skin," and the eyebrows on the right one bring to mind Uma Thurman in Batman and Robin. Also, how are her boobs acting like they are being supported by a bra in the one on the right? Gravity is a thing. Boobs can be perky without looking like they are glued on.
Is this Red Robin? Basic design is fine, but it's overdesigned again.
>>95098545
We'll never get another good Harley design ever again, will we? Thanks a lot, Arkham games.
>>95098516
Ugh,
>>95098497
Left is cool. What the fuck is that on the right.
>>95098477
Lol at human skull for a crotch cup.
>>95098464
I live the idea of the lightning bold going across the torso, but everything else is shit.
>>95098448
This one is actually sleek and cool.
>>95098433
Another "Darkseid in generic armour"
>>95098407
The cowl and mask are cute. The shoulder part of the cowl is dumb. The leg panels are dumb. Not too bad overall, tho.
>>95098391
I can buy Captain Cold looking really practical. I mean, he carries a cold gun, and he needs to wear a heavy jacket so that he doesn't get cold from his own gun. This is pretty basic and sensible.
>>95098351
Meh.
>>95098338
Generic video game character/10
This could be from any 2003 Xbox exclusive game. Nothing about it screams "Blue Beetle"
>>95098320
One on the left is neat. The one on the right, tho it is trying to be remniscient of the classic costume that I like, just kind of fucks it up and ends up being worse than either just doing the classic costume, or trying something new.
>>95112578
best Electro
>>95112542
Why do people do this
>>95103153
I just love how they interpreted the Ditko lines.
>>95112626
no one knows
>>95112626
What? Are you implying that "I like this one" and "ugh" aren't meaningful, insightful, and valued opinions? t. Brainlet
>>95098597
skimpy superheroine outfits are to comics, what moe waifus are to anime. They're inherently juvenile, and if you genuinely like them, you're a fucking fruitcake.
Digital illustration is such a cancer on concept design; its become a race to fill space with as much textures and design and greebles as can fit, and digital lets you do so damn much of it. Everything feels so busy and self-absorbed, like the artist is trying to impress you. There's a time and place for these designs, and a lot of them would be fine in other uses, but as other characters or in other roles. There's a lot of cool space marines and fantasy warriors and shit, but not necessarily superheroes.
Look at
>>95105174
For all of Alex ross' faults, he knows when to hold back really well. He could load an image with detail, but more often than not he chooses to go simple. It doesn't feel like he's trying to show off, like a lot of these concepts.
>>95102889
This would've been amazing. I'd even have been happy with the prototype animatronic makeup for the first movie.
>>95105174
>>95102927
I'm happy they went with a simplistic design.
>>95112499
Be alot cooler if was a butterly just sayin
>>95098464
this is still better than the final product
>>95112626
Why not?
>>95112455
m bison?
>>95113856
Mass replies are almost invariably both pointless and obnoxious.
>>95113695
anon only atomhawk would think that shit is better than pic related. and i hate injustice.
>>95114085
That sounds like a personal peeve rather than anything else. I like to read thought out opinions on costumes.
>>95109649
KYS FAGGOT, DIE IN A HOLE YOU PEICE OF SHIT. I WILL BURN YOUR HOUSE DOWN WITH YOUR FAMILY IN IT AND JERK OFF AS I SEE YOUR FAMILY GETTING BURNT TO CRISP YOU ASSHOLE. I SWEAR I WANT TO RIP YOUR HEAD OFF SO BADLY. GOD IF IT WAS POSSIBLE!!!!! EAT SHIT AND DIE BASICALLY IS WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY!
>>95114249
>I like to read thought out opinions on costumes.
Which none of those were.
>>95109540
That Punisher and Black Widow movie was pretty anime, and they didn't have Carol in the unitard. Still busty as fuck though.
>>95104701
Really digging G and H
>>95112525
Short of the glider, I always felt this was the perfect Goblin design
>>95106877
that's hot
>>95106185
Yet Velma looks pretty much the same
methinks it's easy to tell who the artist's favorite character is
>>95106185
My fucking dick
I really wish this was colored
>>95098448
Ed Boon should put in gi joe characters
some more jokers, and some random stuff with it.
>>95100549
It looks good, but unfortunately it's was more Wildfire than Firestorm.Although I guess LOSH is canon in the Injustice verse so a Wildfire skin would not be out of the question
>>95116292
That Joker looks like a more twisted version of Caesar Romero's version, and I like that they kept the squinty eyes on Shazam.
>>95112626
Morons think people care about what they think, and hell are they wrong.
>>95098320
I main Black Canary and the one on the left would've been dope
>>95098407
Looks good but i'm not a fan of the hood or those leg slits.
>>95098641
They completely ruined WW in this 2nd game and made her harder and impossible to play
>>95116997
thanks, it's personal work.
>>95098338
This looks cool, Like the glowing wings
>>95103171
>>95105933I've
>>95108054
why is THIS the best? it looks like something schmucks on this site would love to tear apart.
>>95098351
The top half of the left picture is in the game. I have it as the foreground of my Hero Card.
>>95098208
His fingers and toes should be we-
>realize they are
oh, sweet
>>95112542
please die
>>95098464
IT WAS ME BARRY, I RUINED YOUR COSTUME
>>95103089
>He doesn't have any boots, he doesn't have any yellow, he doesn't have a belt or anything to split up the blue
Those would be valid complaints if this wasn't an evil Superman and therefore the tone of his costuming is going to be completly different
>>95121315
>>95120669
No, stop, no, it hurts
>>95098433
Full circle.
>>95122009
We need tube darkseid
>>95121985
>>95103089
>injusticefags
Hey I wish they'd use the comics too, dude.
>>95117251
I like how in the stream where they showcased her and Harley they say that they got rid of Harleys old gimmick because they didnt like the RNG element to it. Then right after they show WW with her new RNG gimmick.
>>95098464
>I CAN'T SEE SHIT
>>95105417
That's some 1992 anime face going on
>>95112026
they look pretty bad desu
>>95112542
fuck off
>>95098448
get this guy outta here
>>95121981
So because he's evil he should be poorly designed? None of those things you quoted inform the tone of the design in anyway.
>>95103089
>I fucking hate every single one of you injustice fags. Seriously. Fuck off. You don't read comics or watch cartoons. You like power levels and tacticool costumes. Fuck off.Amen.
>>95127768
Literally never seen an injustice fag talk about overdesigned costumes or power levels.
>>95128391
Watch your homophobic mouth, you coward.
>>95112170
Superman has enough Alien Big Guys to fight. I liked regular Brainy. Just change his black underpants into Black pants and the outfit is fine
Disco Skull Exo-skeleton Brainy was okay too
The Pink Golf Shirt brainiac has the casual look you want in an evil robot overlord
>>95120085
Because for once it actually makes more sense for the character than the original design.
>>95105524
We almost got a Clint Eastwood lookalike grandpa Max, huh?
>>95112026
Left and right look too Iron-Many. Center is ok.
>>95112530
>>95112551
Mildly sympathetic villain; great redesign. Boring as fuck movie.
>>95098208
>>95112542
kill yourself
>>95112413
Damn...taking the "Chinese eyes" stereotype a tad far there. Why not make him look buck-toothed, too?
>>95120669
Baby blue
>>95133692
really does make it look like the mask is just cheap yellow face lol
>>95112833
Take this...
Tone down ears & eyes. Give a darker more mossy green.
Then use this..
>>95102889
design & texture but with darker less skin tight pants & it would be about perfect.
>>95102947
Fante is a goddam art-beast.
All praise
>>95098582
These are both nice, right is obviously better but left is pretty good if they wanted to go without green skin for whatever stupid reason.
>>95116131
1,000 hours in photoshop
>>95109361
Look's like Vanin stole Mat's hat.
>>95130724
>brainiac
>robot
leave.
>>95136095
you rock, anon
From Marvel Nemesis
>>95131098
so do most redesigns. then /co/ throws a fit saying "oh thinking too much into it" "It's just fiction brah"
>>95112499
would be better as a leotard like this
>>95112476
>>95124972
I think what you meant to say was
>get this hothead out of here
>>95098448
>>95105174
IRL Negan at the bottom left (guessing it's probs Colossus)
But I mean for real, that's basically what Negan should look like IRL
>>95136095
How long did it really take? What tools?
I'm a little interested in getting into digital coloring.
>>95140061
Speaking of Marvel Nemesis concept art
HNNNG
>>95112720
ERMAC WINZZ!!!!!