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Do you think Spider-Man should have a no-kill rule?

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Do you think Spider-Man should have a no-kill rule?
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>>94526275
yes
spider-man was suspected of murder once, and he couldnt go out into broad daylight

an actual murder, say nothing of the effect it would have on peters psyche, would make it impossible for him to ever be spider-man again, as the daily bugle would milk it for all its worth

not to mention the smug look on the punishers face when he finds he has converted the oh so honorable spider-man into murder
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>>94526275
He does have a no kill rule and holds back in most of his fights so he doesn't accident punch someone's head off
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>>94526275

Did he kill couple of times? I like it when Peter parker isn't really a hero, just a guy with guilt doing the right thing.
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>>94526327
He's killed Swarm and Morlun or whatever, right?
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>>94526327
He tried to punch Wolverine once with all his force, missed, hit Wolverines girlfriend by accident, and basically evaporated her neck.

Then there was the one time he snapped Gwen's neck.

And once he killed a zombie from the fifties, but it doesn't count in his mind since it was already dead.
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>>94526303
I think Punisher never rubbed it in during Superior when they were at Otto's island headquarters.
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>>94526303

Frank doesn't really strike me as the kind of guy that would act smug about a guy like Peter murdering someone.
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>>94526275
I don't think anyone should have a "no-kill rule," but rather a "don't kill unless as a last resort" rule if they're dealing with street crime. I think Spider-Man has a good excuse for taking the latter position compared to idiots like Batman. Mostly because most of Spider-Man's villains aren't mass murderers to trying to nuke the city. They're just street crooks with gimmicks. Sandman is a thug. He robs banks. Shocker is a thug. He mugs people. Kraven is a thug. He wants to capture Spider-Man. Scorpion is a thug. He keeps trying to kill one dude. Et cetera.

I definitely think, though, he should be willing to kill extremely dangerous and destructive foes, if no one else is there and has the opportunity or ability. Carnage is a straightforward example.
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>>94526303
I don't think Punisher would be smug about that at all
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>>94526374
>>94526377
>>94526395
should have clarified that last one was a joke

but peter would definitely not want to be compared to the punisher
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>>94526377
>>94526395
This. I honestly think he'd be a bit depressed or dissapointed.
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>>94526275

For Peter's sake, yes. The man can't take stuff like that on his conscience. That was Deadpool's point in their latest arc where Peter wanted to kill Itsy and Deadpool did it for him.
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>>94526362
>He tried to punch Wolverine once with all his force, missed, hit Wolverines girlfriend by accident, and basically evaporated her neck.
panel please
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>>94526544
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>>94526559
More? Who was she? What was the aftermath?
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>>94526275
No. No one should have a no kill rule, they should not indulge in killing and it should not be a go to solution but they also should not be pathologically obsessed with no kill rule. I think most heroes can restrain themselves and not turn into serial killers even without such rule.
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>>94526650
It's from Spider-Man vs Wolverine. Great read, I highly recommend it. Basically Wolvies girlfriend was suicidal and asked him to kill her Logan took her to a grave yard and was about to, but Spider-Man felt life was still worth fighting for even if the other person didn't want it. Peter does her in and understandably gets shooken up by it. Wolverine pays for his tickets back to New York.
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>>94526676
maybe it should amended to "no murder rule" where no hero may ever commit
>first, second degree murder
this only affects the punisher and similiar
> manslaughter
would affect spider-man if he killed green goblin while grieving over gwen stacy
>involuntary manslaughter
accidentally hit a guy too hard

it does allow killing in legitimate self-defense and mitigates (though absolved only is specific cases, and occasionally makes things worse, depending on the authority of the order-giver) killing under orders from someone else
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>>94526362
>He tried to punch Wolverine once with all his force, missed, hit Wolverines girlfriend by accident, and basically evaporated her neck.
Holy shit what?
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>>94526742
>>94526559
>>94526688
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>>94526736
Define hero. Is Cap a hero? Is Hulk a hero? What about Logan?
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>>94526736
You can murder 90% of supervillains and have it be legally justified by self-defense or defense of others. 90% of them are both murderers and always armed.
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>>94526762
cap is a soldier, he fights crime and evil villains, this pretty obvious

hulk, depends on the hulk in question

logan, anti-hero at best
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>>94526770
most supervillains are defeated non-lethally, and many superheroes are capable of doing so, and so there is no immediate need to kill them

unless there really is no other way, then dont kill them

also policemen are often pulled out of patrol until they can properly asses whether a kill was justified or not, so a superhero should be held to a similar standard

if killing is allowed, then there should be major checks and balances
too much red tape? then dont kill them unless there is no other option
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>>94526736
It would just get muddy. the whole "its ok when its robots and non humans" already splods some minds
>>94526770
since the heroes seek them out and actively engage them it would not fly as self defense . It may fly as "extreme need" (not sure what they call it) auction aimed at saving civilians but since legally all life is equal (meaning it does not matter 1 life =10 ) and It has to be your responsibility (like maybe you are a bus driver or their parent ) which heroes don't have
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>>94526808
would not becoming supercops null the point of vigilantly justice? you will have people in arms saying books are brainwashing their kids into statism
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>>94526808

See this only really becomes a problem when your villains are needlessly edgy psycho mad men
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>>94526995
you have to up your game, so it may take years but eventually that is where all stories end up. Its like Xmen going from small tricks to omega level
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>>94526275

To be completely honest, having a 'no-kill, but with exceptions' rule would be more effective. Like, a lot of Peter's worst problems could be solved by murder.

I mean, off the top of my head, Green Goblin, Ock and Massacre all deserve to die. No-one would blame Peter for that. Like, no jury in the world would convict Spiderman if he went "Osborn's alive again, I'm fucking killing him this time."
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>>94526762

Actually, here's a good question. Did mainline Captain America kill anyone? I mean, he fought in WWII! If he didn't kill any Nazis whatsoever, he would be LESS effective than an ordinary soldier.

I know that Steve doesn't kill *normally*, but did he make an exception in those days?
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>>94527369

Why would Captain America ever kill Nazis? He's not a team killer.
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>>94527369
He killed the spy that killed the doctor who made the super soldier serum or whatever.
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He must have the no kill rule, but the "no one dies" is just stupid. He's a veteran Hero, que should now by now that not every being deserte to be help. He should start not carrying so much and stop tryind to save villains.
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>>94526688
Is this the story that inspired that What If where Peter becomes a professional assassin?
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>>94526275
Definitely. His makes absolute sense when you look at his powers, background, and theme of thrusted-into-greatness. I hate when they try and make him brutal and edgy or a vicious killer, but of course /co/ jerks off to it. Peter being pissed is more effective when it's a complete slip of his anger as opposed to methodical.
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>>94527369
He's killed Baron Blood and the odd Red Skull here and there, but they keep coming back
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