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Why is Nazism so prominent is modern comics when Communism was

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Why is Nazism so prominent is modern comics when Communism was more recent and resulted in over 10 times the deaths?
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>>94513924
because Jews write comics

or atleast they did
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>>94513924
Its just trends, Communism was the big bad during the Cold War, right now theres a fach scare going around, so nazis are back
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Because its the hot button issue right now and comics don't have integrity or creativity anymore.
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>>94513924
Because liberals run the show currently and they lean more Communist. Nazism and Communism are like oil and water. With Communism being the oil.
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>>94513999
These people don't even know what fascism is
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>>94513924
Because Nazis were the last enemies that America was able to punch away. Sure you have resurgences and people that hold on to the virtues, that you call "neo nazis", but America never managed to stamp out communism, and you don't call people that hold those virtues as "neo commies"
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>>94513924
Because communism is good in theory while fascism isn't.
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>>94513924
Well, one of two reasons:
>The Nazis overtly hated. The Communists, although clearly hating the wealthy, do so in a manner that was less publicized than the Holocaust. That, and most people hate the "Big Bad Greedy" character that communism paints as their rival in the first place
>Most if damn near all comic book writers are Liberals. They view Communists as "misguided cousins with the right idea" while they few anything right of the 2nd Amendment as Devil worship
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>>94514053
Communism isn't good in theory lmao
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>>94513924
Because capitlaism killed even more people in places like korea and nam you fucking retard
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>>94513924
Is Captain America retarded? Why is he punching a picture of Hitler?! He's not there
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>>94513949
>atleast
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>>94513999
More fascism has occurred under communism than one single nation's single instance.
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>>94514071
what

this thread isn't about capitalism
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Because ANTIFA rules America now.
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>>94514053
Communism and fascism is not mutually exclusive. Rather the opposite. Communism lends itself to fascism much more easily.
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>>94514094
Antifa/ggots/ can't even hold down a job
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>>94514094
Your grandparents died fighting the nazis just so you can defend them later in a world made possible only through their sacrifice.
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>>94514053
Let's be real. Communism doesn't work, Fascism works
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>>94513924
because people are more willing to except simplistic good vs evil narratives where the evil ideology is fascism, Nazism even more so.

Its a bit harder to vilify communism especially when you have to simply ideologies for the audience, at worst communists come off as well intentioned idealist, I mean there primary concerns are things like the plight of the working man and economic equality, where simplistic Nazi goals are seems as things like imperialism and racial purity
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>>94513924
Because the big bad of communism - the USSR had the chance to fail and show the entire world how much of a failure it was, nazi Germany, on the other hand was pretty much killed in its infancy.

Also, there's that whole resurgence of far-right populism, which these comics are so very glad to "comment" on.
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>>94514086
Fuck I meant to type communism
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>>94514085

Fucking this. Nazism isn't hated because they are fascists. Nazis are hated because they are evil white men. Nazism would be more accepted if they got rid if the whole racial purity aspect (while keeping everything else awful about them.)
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>>94514109
>Communism and fascism is not mutually exclusive. Rather the opposite. Communism lends itself to fascism much more easily.
Right, that's totally why Hitler wanted commie support instead of their heads on pikes
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>>94514126
My grandpa wanted the Nazis to win dude
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>>94514126
Your grandparents were fools
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>>94513924
The US was never in open, popularly supported war with the USSR. And the Nazis are still perceived as competent and stylish, while Communists are veiwed now as generally poor and incompetent at anything that wasnt space or nukes.
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>>94513924
Because americans defeated the nazis but not the communists, the communism died for its own stupidity. But America actually fought against the nazis in the biggest war ever, and they won and they came back stronger and victorious.
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>>94514126
There literally aren't any Nazis around anymore barring the American Nazi Party and the KKK. Both have such low membership numbers, both combined are probably less than a thousand worldwide.
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>>94513924
Because the Nazi's stated goal was murder.
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>>94514126

Is that why ANTIFA spits at those same grandparents for being "fascist nazis" then?
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>>94514126
>Antifa
>Fighting Nazis
Good one. Anon, I respect the trash cans
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Comics were heavily written by Jews. Naturally they'd hate Nazis more.

This is like asking why Chinese media demonizes imperial Japan.
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>>94514053

In theory, Capitalism is good.
In theory, Communism is good.
In theory, Fascism is good.

What a meaningless statement to make.
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>>94514162
This is called a red herring.

Two fascists can be in opposition to each other. In fact, they are LIKELY to be in opposition to each other.

Whether or not Hitler gets along with someone does not determine if they are fascist or not. For example Stalin. As you pointed out.
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>>94514128
Its more like Communism doesn't work with human beings. Its a brilliant system, problem is 90% of people are petty children who can't care about anything other than themselves.

There is a reason that some of the most prolific and industrious creatures to ever evolve on this plant evolved to naturally be communist
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>>94514146

>Nazism would be more accepted if they got rid if the whole racial purity aspect (while keeping everything else awful about them.)

Well yeah? Without the racial purity angle you'd have a fundamentally different movement/political party altogether. At that point it'd just be more expansionism/colonialism. They'd still be the bad guys, but they wouldn't be more hated then, say, Britain. I don't know why you're saying this like you're calling people out or something, they were evil because of the racist bullshit in addition to annexing countries.
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>>94514214
>people are petty children who can't care about anything other than themselves.
That isn't petty or childish. It's called every living thing on this planet does this and if they don't they die.
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>>94514189
What is she even holding up at the end?
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>>94514208
>In theory, Communism is good.
not communism isn't good in theory.
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>>94514189
I....st
hi..SL......Oss?
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>>94513924
Because the left committed the "great lie" and framed Nazis as "right wing", despite Nazism and Fascism being Socialism taken to it's zenith. Since their cognitive dissonance doesn't allow them to portray Socialism as "evil", and since they've already established their lie, "Nazis" are all they have left.
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>>94514126
How do you know his grandparents didn't have bone spurs?
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>>94514116
I have two actually
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>>94514247
this
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>>94514235
If you don't care for other than you're a shitty human being.
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>>94514235
yeah that's why over 50% of all insects alive on Earth are things like Ants and Bees, insects that basically evolved into natural communism, despite the fact that such insects only represent 5% of all insect species.
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>>94514284
>If you don't care for other
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>>94513924
Nazis have always been an easy pure evil.

After the fall of the USSR the view of Communism has become more morally gray so it's easier to just go with what everyone will always call the bad guys.
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>>94514247

Everyone laugh at this retard who goes UH ITS NATIONAL *SOCIALISM* ITS THE SAME THING AS COMMUNISM like this isn't a tired argument that's been disproven many times
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>>94514241
This is the edit of a pro-antifa comic where the girl faces a buff man in a weight lifting competition, she just breaks his knees
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>>94514235
>It's called every living thing on this planet does this

Factually false, many living things are coded to fuck your face if you step to their children, even if you're bigger than them.

And humans, as social animals, benefit more from cooperation than selfishness.
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>>94513924

Communism has a decent goal even if it's a horrible disaster when actually put into practice. Nazism is an idea that's easier to agree is bad.
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Where is Nazism prominent in modern comics? I mean a lot of modern characters have their origins in outright WW2 propaganda which obviously featured Nazis as the villain. Since then it's been less and less prominent.

If you mean Secret Empire, HYDRA genuinely aren't Nazis but they have a lot of associated characters who were to do with the literal Nazis. Which is why there are Nazis there.

And communism was the villain in plenty of comics too. But it was more prominent when the USSR was still around.
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>>94513924
Is there any way to get the mods to do their fucking jobs?
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>>94514395
They have been deleting threads today but the anon that makes these is completely fucking autistic and will keep resetting IP and posting. Occasionally he loses his temper and makes a thread just outright bitching at the mods too.
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>>94514284
>yeah that's why over 50% of all insects alive on Earth are things like Ants and Bees, insects that basically evolved into natural communism,
That's a gross misrepresentation of the structure of bees and insects, which are far more a monarchy than communism. Unless you're trying to put communism in a very terrible light:

The majority of resources in ant and bee colonies is for the queen. The hierarchy. For producing more drones and workers. Not to the workers themselves. The entire colony revolves around the matriarch and the survival of one singular, insular creature in the hive. All others are disposable. That is either not communism, or a very ugly way to describe communism.
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>>94514323
even when the Soviet Union was around communism was seem as gray, basically only neo-conservatives like Regan from the 80s actually claimed the Soviets were evil.

Don't get me wrong, Americans saw them as the enemy, but you can see someone as an opposing force or opposing interest without viewing them as literally evil
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>>94514247
This doesn't make any sense? Like ifbthe leftist control ebough of society that they can fool people into thinking that a left wing ideology is actually right wing then why would then even label Nazis as bad?
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>>94514395
We're discussing comics you SUbhuman
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>>94513924
because communism has existed for a long time and there are still a lot of communists out there while nazism is kinda dead and since comics are built around escapism talking about communism might be a tad bit too real

also some of comic's more influential writers were gommunists (or at least anarcho-communists)
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>>94514373
>Factually false, many living things are coded to fuck your face if you step to their children, even if you're bigger than them.

Those same animals will kill children that do not belong to them as well.

>humans
Who are evolved chimpanzees. Who routinely do this and will murder and go to war and absolutely destroy other children other than their own.

Protecting their OWN children is protecting their own interests. Not for the child, but because it is to ensure the survival of their own genes. Other non-primate species do this often as well. It's seen throughout nature. Competition drives evolution.
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>>94514324
Communism and Fascism, just swap around "for the good of the working class" and "for the good of the fatherland" and you have almost the same ideology and policy prescriptions. Government control, central planning, price control, etc.
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>>94514245
have you read kapital ?

it's a pretty good critique of capitalism
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>>94514425
Except you're not, retard
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>>94514214
You talking about ants/bees/termites? Yeah, communism brings only stagnation. Fuck this, I want to explore space
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>>94514373

And the reason why communism doesn't work is that we are not insects. We are mammals. We are social animals yes, but we have our own interests to worry about.
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>>94514417
Woops, meant to quote:
>>94514298
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>>94513924
Because communism is still around
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Russian communism was terrible.

Chinese communism was fine. People always go MUH 10MILLION DEAD ON MAO ZEDONG'S MARCH but under his rule he replaced that number many times over and also brought the literacy rate from like 30% to above 80.
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>>94514208
Dude, Communism is the scrawled kindergarten drawing of ideologies.
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>ITT /co/ argues about things that only economists and political nerds actually understands
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>>94514456
>Those same animals will kill children that do not belong to them

Yeah because FUCK other people's children
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>>94514417
no that's a fundimental misunderstand of hivemind insects

the breeding slave is called a queen by us and you mistake it for a leader or an elite.
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>>94514507
Communism is a good way to drag a country into modernization, kicking and screaming.
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>>94514560
Essentially this is how animals are.
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>>94514507
>but under his rule he replaced that number many times over and also brought the literacy rate from like 30% to above 80.

literally every country did that at some point in the last 200 years. some countries even did it without getting millions of people killed in the process.
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>"1000-year reich"
>lasts 12 years
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>>94514586
You can get a lot done when you steal all the wealth and property from everyone and force them at gunpoint to work.
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has anyone here actually read Marx aside for the communist manifesto ?
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>>94514507

>killed millions of their own people just to make their country slightly less of a shithole
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>>94514458
Communism and Fascism are concepts that have meaning beyond "There's a dictator on top"
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>>94514622
>lol the nazis wouldve destroyed society and the world
>now excuse me while I watch and jerk off to my childrens cartoon.
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>>94514561
>fundimental
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>>94514477
yeah animals can't actively progress, although various human attempts at communism generally show very impressive progress in technical fields

Whether you wanna talk about the Soviet space program, or the Cuba medical system, which is basically a world class medical system built on a 3rd world nations budget.

If there is a better system for scientific advancement I'm all for that, but capitalism isn't exactly pro-science, its pro-innovation but someone shouldn't look at the theory of general relativity and ask, how do we sell it?
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>>94514599
then why are there places in africa, the Middle East and south east Asia that have an extremely terrible literacy rate ?
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>>94514561
Yet the entirety of the redistribution of resources is centered around the queen. The "good" of the workers is irrelevant to the well-being of the hive. Only the well-being of the queen is relevant to the survival of the hive.

It doesn't need to be a ruler or elite to know that the workers are not the ones whose well-being is put last and are expected to die for just one individual. All the work of the workers is for the benefit of one singular ant or bee. They are successful because in evolution, this works for that species because it ensures that they can reproduce faster than their workers are depleted.
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>>94514420
True, but back in the day anything remotely related communism would be called pure evil. Let's not forget the good old McCarthy trials.
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>>94514652
>reading marx to understand communism
Has anyone read about Robert Owen's experiment at New Harmony?
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>>94514687

Lysenkoism.
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>>94514507
Mao was awful, the man clearly had no clue what he was doing and then just blamed random groups of people, like intellectuals

I'm not a huge fan of China's current government but its better than Mao's dream of everyone being a peasant farm worker
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>>94514692
>>94514561
>It doesn't need to be a ruler or elite to know that the workers are not the ones whose well-being is put last
Sorry, I meant to say it doesn't need to be a ruler or elite for us to understand that the workers are not the ones whose well-being is put first. Rather, their well-being is put last.
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>>94513924
Nazis are much more directly evil.
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>>94514214
>>94514477
Also. Petty?! Look bro, living in a ant society sucks, I don't want to dedicate my life to support the state, I have my own ambitions and I want to invest on them, like traveling to various places, in communism this is considered luxury, therefore unnecessary go back work
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>>94514687
Someones not familiar with some of the completely insane batshit looney science the soviets got up to
http://theeasternborder.lv/podcast/extra-super-lysenko/
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>>94514214
>>94514298
>>94514757

The comparison of communism is being made to ants and bees.

Both of which do not feel, think or have emotions.

Humans do. The suffering of bees and ants is irrelevant because they can't and don't feel suffering.

Humans can and do. This is why communism doesn't work. Humans are expected to not feel suffering. When it's in our biology to avoid suffering at all costs to our own person.

Ants and bees have a far weaker instinct towards this self preservation. And communism blames this basic instinct of self preservation as a flaw. Not a strength to why we've been able to evolve and survive so long.
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>>94514369
.....Why?
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uJqa-Z9Souc
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>>94514690
i was using "literally" in the figurative sense

point is, it's hard to sustain the argument that communism was responsible for a process of modernization that would have taken place under any government. if you doubt that, look at other east asian countries. taiwan was governed by the pre-communist chinese government, the people still learned to read, standards of living were higher and there were considerably fewer mass purges and famines.
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>>94514132
>Its a bit harder to vilify communism
It's only harder to villify communism if you have never been exposed to ultra-leftist madness, which is the majority of these limousine liberals in first world nations. And even then, in Miami they threw parties upon hearing of Castro's death; I always did wonder what liberals had to say about that.
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>>94514395
Report and ignore. Isnt anything else to be done really.
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As terrible as communism might be , atleast the end goal is noble. Nazism on the other hand revolves around ethnic cleansing.
And criticising nazis is not the same as being a fucking commie. It's called having a brain.
And also you can easily find comics where the villain burps out bullshit like "To achieve equality violence is important" and goes on with his twisted mindset until defeated. I think these villains are very close to Communist dictators
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>>94514732
the collective well being is put first, that's what communism is.

Also there is a big difference between prioritizing the well being of certain groups and prioritizing the well being of certain groups to the detriment of others, particularly outside of emergencies.

If there was an actual global food shortage, I would expect there to be a priority on feeding farm labors and biologists rather than someone like me. However the way the world actually works out we have people who manage to starve to death despite other people dying of over eating or medical problems related to over eating.
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>>94514891

I think the big guy was saying something along the lines of "If I win this competition I get to kill you" So she broke his knees.
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>>94514126
"I'm laying down my life, so one day America can be minority white."

Which soldier said this?
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>>94514952
Basically this.
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>>94514856
it is a flaw

you don't build the best modern society with instinct and priorities meant for a hunter gatherer 10,000 years ago
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>>94513924
Because both comics and communism are jewish enterprises.
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>>94514891
Why what? I assume the comic is supporting the use of violence by antiga trying to paint the """"""nazis"""""" as violent(he threatens to kill the girl's family) and unfair since he's buff and she's a skinny girl, so she gives up a breaks his knees. The edit is more in tune with reality
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>it's a politics bait thread
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>>94514082
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>>94514956
>the collective well being is put first,
Which is fine for ants and bees.

Humans do not operate on this. Nor do most vertebrates. What with the whole thinky meaty part of the brains and spinal cords and such that we have.

>Also there is a big difference between prioritizing the well being of certain groups and prioritizing the well being of certain groups to the detriment of others

The latter is most assuredly not excluded from communism under any circumstance. Emergency or not.
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You're just looking at a specific time period. Heroes in comics will always fight against allegories for whatever evil group is on the rise right now.

My question is, why aren't heroes today fighting against Muslim terrorists and """"protesters"""" attacking innocent bystanders in the streets. I mean, I understand that they have a huge hate boner for Trump right now, but apart from a big nothing burger, all complaints they have against him comes down to ignorance and not anything inexcusably evil.
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>>94514324
Oh, yeah, because Benito Mussolini totally wasn't raised a die hard leftist by his mom and dad (both of whom were violent revolutionary Socialists), and took Socialism and just "corrected" it's infighting through using the "nation" as a "glue" to keep the "workers" together.

>>94514423
Because of the Holocaust and the distasteful racism accompanying Nazism. They couldn't disguise that behind "equality" and "for the poor and downtrodden workers" like they could with Socialism and Communism, despite them being identical in practice and all coming from the same source.

>>94514678
Correct! And that meaning is "government centralization of the means of production in order to bring about the 'New Man' and his Godless paradise on Earth".

It's just that both of the systems, which are utterly identical, require a "dictator on top" to function, and they never get to the "stateless and classless New Man society" phase.
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>>94515004
Basically antifa fantasies about them become the Good guys
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>>94514680
>getting defensive about people mocking the nazis

Hue Adolf clone pls
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>>94514930
not surprising

although I do find it funny how Cuba exiles who haven't been home in 50 years like to talk about the real Cuba and how Castro ruined it. they're a group whose entire existence is to claim that Castro was the villain, he could have literally saved the world and they would have still celebrated his death
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>>94515034
yes, which is why my very first statement in this discuss is basically that communism works very well

just not for humans
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>>94514986
Which is why we are invoking animals and species far older than humans?

The desire to self preserve created the human need and desire to build societies to preserve themselves better. Not only is it not a flaw, it's also innate and irrelevant to the argument since it isn't going anywhere. It's a part of us and we wouldn't be here without it even if we could get rid of it, and we can't. So trying to build a system on something we have no power to remove from humans is ludicrous.
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>>94515022
Glad that her comics spread in my thread.
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>>94515095
>just not for humans

You claimed it was due to being petty and childish. When in fact there's nothing petty or childish about it.

Basically, the argument, "communism would be great for humans if they didn't have free will, emotions, self determination or feelings."

A shame we have all those things eh?
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>>94515045
>Because of the Holocaust and the distasteful racism accompanying Nazism.
Marx was extremely racist though.
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>>94515170
Everyone was racist in that time
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>>94515140
not really

free will, emotion and self-determination isn't what stops communism

its the failure to see oneself as part of a collective and a need to always prioritize personal or selfish gain over collective gain

instincts and priorities very favorable in a hunter gatherer but pretty outdated for a globalized interconnected society

and yes, I consider acting like a literal savage childish and petty
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>>94515095
Communism is a political ideology. Humans are the only animal capable of thinking in ideological terms. If communism isn't good for humans, then it's no good for any other creature either.
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>>94515170
what does that have to do with communists?

That's like saying Jesus was a racist and therefore all Christians are racist
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>>94515184
As a matter of fact, they weren't.

Even prior to ww1 America was poised to do away with its Jim Crowe laws and the civil liberties movement during the late 19th century was gaining traction until Woodrow Wilson stopped all the progress being made. In fact many people and states were in favor of desegregation in the united states.

On the other hand Marx...
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>>94513924
Mainly because the west still remembers cold war paranoia with disdain, and didn't notice when a lot of that paranoia eventually turned out to be pretty justified decades later.
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>>94515184
Oh, so it's okay when Marx does it, but not the NSDAP?
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>>94515170
Oh, I know. Where do people think Hitler got it from? Socialist ideologies have always been racist and about "purifying" society of the "unfit", whether they are "lazy", "stupid", or "genetically inferior".

>>94515184
Not a very good excuse when Socialism, unlike most ideologies, led directly to mass murder and genocide based on class or race.
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>>94514687
>cuban medical system
>world class
You can't be fucking serious.
People are dying to get out of Cuba. STILL.
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>>94515252
Well, the fact that the Communists practiced eugenics, exterminated "inferior" ethnic minorities, and littered Easter Europe in mass graves has plenty to do with "it".
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>>94515242
perhaps its better to say that humans aren't good at communism rather than saying communism isn't good for human

but either way I don't agree with your general premise that economic thought can't use examples of nonhuman systems to prove theoretical utility
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>>94515222
>If I don't want to dedicate my life to the state I'm childish AND a savage
Fuck off, I would prefer to live under fascism then communism, atleast there's more return
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>>94515222

>free will, emotion and self-determination isn't what stops communism
Except the lack of those things are precisely why it works for insects. If an insect could feel pain, would try to avoid pain, have free will and thought, it most certainly WOULD NOT put everything, including its life, aside for the good of the colony. The reason ants and bees can make communism work for them is because they can't feel suffering. Humans can.

>instincts and priorities very favorable in a hunter gatherer but pretty outdated for a globalized interconnected society
Isn't the hunter gatherer society much newer and younger than the society of ants and bees, which are much older?

Saying it's outdated because it's so old is fallacious regardless. If the hunter-gatherer society is outdated, then the society of bees and ants is far more so.
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>>94515326
and literally everyone in South and Central America has to go to Cuba to get medical treatment more advanced than a check up, they are literally famous for their doctors
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>this entire thread
/pol/ should really start taking their fucking medication
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>>94514174
Learn to math. Do unbiased research and stop spreading lies to control a narrative.
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>>94515328
>perhaps its better to say that humans aren't good at communism rather than saying communism isn't good for human
No, I'd say the latter is more accurate.
Especially considering that humans can feel suffering, and have an instinctual desire to avoid it. Communism can only work when people are not averse to suffering at all costs. In fact communism requires the individual to be unable to feel suffering.
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>>94515383
Not really. Cuba exports medics to South America, they want to get out of there

t. South American
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>>94513924
Simple: the Commies lost and the Nazis are on a comeback tour.
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>>94515327
>eugenics is bad
yeah still not sure if I believe this, I mean I'm not into forcibly sterilizing people, but I don't see what is wrong with attempting to make better humans, although sadly most attempts I know about had questionable understanding of genetics anyway.

As for the rest, Stalin was a crazy motherfucker and not much of a communist, like there is a reason Lenin denounced him and attempted to oust him from Soviet leadership
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>>94515400
stay mad /leftypol/
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>all this apologetics for Communism because it's end goal was 'noble'
You don't get 100'000'000 Million dead from some wayward dreamers too wrapped up in their dream to see reality.
Communism is for monsters. Communism BREEDS monsters. Consider the type of creature always in power after a decade of the eternal revolution, why is it always a Stalin, a Mao or a Castro?
Imagine. You wake up no longer a human being with rights from the first breath, but a cog of the state. Everything you see in your room can be confiscated from the state. Everything you ARE can be confiscated, you can be forced from your job to a new role as the state demands. You aren't a man. You are a cog.
And the State Police has a quota of arrests to make, because it turns out that a great deal of jobs wouldn't be done unless you were paid or had a gun to your head. So guess whose stupid ass is getting sent to a Gulag?

Read your fucking Solzhenitsyn /co/. Fuck me.
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>>94515427
The CIA and FBI have estimated the membership of the KKK to be around 5,000. The Southern Poverty Law Center gives a lower estimate of around 3,000.
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>>94515400
Shut up speak about communist or Nazis in comics or go out.
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>>94515450
Explain how Nazis are coming back, retard

By that logic Communism is coming back too
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>>94515327
>communist eugenics were bad but hitler was an okay guy
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>>94515355
hunter gatherer society is outdated because it isn't the one we live in anymore

its not a matter of being old and new, its a matter of the circumstances in which our instincts evolved and the circumstances in which we currently live being wildly different
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>>94515466
Why do you think communism is compared and lauded in the context of creatures that don't think or feel like bees and ants?
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>>94513924
Style.
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Communism is a joke. Nazis actually managed to succeed somewhat.
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>>94515442
Everyone wants to hire Cuba doctors, its literally the best medical system in South America, its not just that the doctors might wanna leave, which may be the case for other reason

but this doesn't change that they train better doctors than the rest of South America and can thus export them
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>>94515513
I am more surprised about communism being lauded by people who have everything to lose following a communist takeover.
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>>94515529
>Nazis actually managed to succeed somewhat
>nazis: 1933-1945
>USSR: 1922-1990
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>>94515489

His post read like it was a joke, calm down
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Nazis are for evil humans.

Commies are for people who aren't human.

One works despite being barbaric and evil, the other only works if you get rid of everything human.
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>>94515456
>but I don't see what is wrong with attempting to make better humans
You can't make a "better" human. Humans, no matter how strong or smart, are still human. They are still the same poo-flinging apes they were when they crawled out of the muck. Also, those "enhancements" would ostracize and oppress those who chose not to undergo them, and violate their rights as people. Why would a company take a "normal" human when they could have a super strong machine-like human instead?

>>94515493
>I'm retarded!
Good for you! Eugenics is bad, period. I didn't say one gets a pass on it, learn to read, leftist.
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>>94515545
Yeah. But changes what you pointed about south americans having to go to Cuba
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>>94515587
NK is 60 years strong but I wouldn't consider it successful.
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>>94515505
And the society and circumstances for ants hasn't changed. It's fine for them. Ours has and does. We haven't moved to circumstances similar to that of ants NOW.

Because again, we feel suffering. As long as that fundamental fact remains unchanged, communism isn't right for humans. Communism necessitates that the suffering of the individual be ignored, and that's simply impossible right now. So until that ability to feel goes away, our circumstances won't change towards communism.

Further, I'd like to posit that no, a hunter gatherer society isn't a capitalistic one, but a far more communal one than we were in. Our ancient hunter gatherer society was more of a communal society than ours today.
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>>94515466
>rope Castro in with Stalin and Mao

wow you bought into that propaganda taught in school hard huh?

also just a funny note, you point out arrest quotas in a police state, you do realize our cops have quotas for how many people they are expect to pull over, arrest or otherwise fine right?
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>>94515620
But Nazi Germany would be?
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>>94515625
>>94515505

>a far more communal one than we were in
Fuck me:
A far more communal one that we ARE in.
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>>94515587
>USSR is suddenly real Communism when it benefits your argument
Every time.
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>>94515466
>You wake up no longer a human being with rights from the first breath, but a cog of the state. Everything you see in your room can be confiscated from the state. Everything you ARE can be confiscated, you can be forced from your job to a new role as the state demands. You aren't a man. You are a cog.
Sounds like America
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>>94515634
>defending Castro
Titty fucking Christ /co/

The drug war was a mistake, but at least there are actual charges. In Communist countries you would be arrested and given a 'tenner' sentence in a Gulag, BECAUSE YOU WERE THERE.
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>>94515659
Hey man, Russians are nostalgic for the USSR for a reason.
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>>94515654
Uhhhh yeah. They were about to take over Europe ffs.
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>>94515489
uh, actually it is. extremism is on the rise everywhere on both sides.
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>>94515619
maybe I'm wrong but my understanding was for the more advanced medical operations people do often go to Cuba, given this is like specialist work something that its not too strange to travel far for even in the USA or Europe
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>>94515665
The USA is not perfect, but if you honestly think it worse than the zenith of the USSR then you're beyond help.
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>>94515681
No we're fucking not.
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>>94515634
but quotas are good they give the police incentive to actively search out corrupt elements of our society
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>>94515689
>they were about to take over europe
You fell for a meme my friend.
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>>94515681
Because they were strong, the Russians equate strength with the highest of virtues, as a country periodically invaded throughout history would.
Go ask a Pole their opinion of the USSR.
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>>94514126
Guys who scream for the right to beat up anyone they claim is evil in masks is also something I'm not into.

Yes I get the irony.
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>>94515672
yeah an oppressive police state under Castro isn't comparable with people who qualify as having committed genocide or something so close to it I don't care to make a distinction
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>>94515731
>history is a meme
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>>94515597

In a way yes.

Nazism appeals to a base instinct of the worst aspect of humanity that's tangibly real.

Communism appeals to people who have no real idea on how people actually behave.
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>>94514189
i legitimately don't get it.
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>>94515482
>>94515427
>>94514126

There were 400 members of the American nazi party last I checked in 32 states.

400.

Where are all these nazis you are screaming about?
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>>94515672
he wasn't defending castro, he was saying the guy is nothing compared to stalin and mao.

which is true. you look at castro compared to the guy before him and he looks like a saint.

before you twist my words, castro was still shitty. but less shitty. like obamacare.
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>>94515752
you also believe that america did most of the job in destroying nazi germany in world war 2 right ?
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>>94515793
Nope. Looks like you failed to pigeonhole me, fatass :)
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>thread's in autosage
it's something I guess.
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>>94515753
they're both shitty solutions to real problems. stop pretending either is actually a stable solution.
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>>94514018
>Nazism and Communism are like oil and water.
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>Thread's in autosage
MODS = GODS
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>>94515752
You know America made 74,000 Sherman tanks during WW2? Just Shermans. Nazi Germany made 49,777 tanks total. The mighty German U-Boats that were such a terrible scourge of the sea only sank 1.4% of the ships they engaged.
>>94515720
85% of Russians over 60 regret the collapse.
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before any socialists come here to shitpost watch this video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvF_D4tVfYU

it red pilled me on socialism and it should redpilled you too
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>>94515482
>Southern Poverty Law Center
That's a propaganda organization and mail order scam. Other civil rights groups directly call them a scam.
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>>94515868
I agree entirely, anon.
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>>94514998
there's a reason conspiracy theory is used as an insult. "the jews" is not an organization, and there's no magic universal secret to why history happens.
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>>94515856
Source on that 85% claim, dumb commie?

Don't reply without an actual source shit for brains.
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>>94515856
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>>94515889
http://www.eurasiamonitor.org/frmtext/EM_2016_USSR_25.pdf
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>>94515840

Oh I'm not saying either of them are stable solutions. I'm just stating the mindset behind the two ideology. One preaches hate and superiority, the other preaches pie in the sky bullshit at the expense of the work of others.
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>>94515767
All antifa does is hit people minding their business while they're not looking and hitting trash cans
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>>94515896
>>94515904
Wow Russians are fucking stupid. No wonder they can't function under any system. I say we let them be commies again so they can die of hunger.
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>>94515907
Pie in the fucking coffin.
HIGHEST DEATH TOLL IN HUMAN HISTORY.
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>>94515691
You're basing yourself on outdated information. The supposed excellence of Cuban medicine is viewed as a myth now.

Hell, Chávez went to Cuba to treat himself there and now he's dead.
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>>94515923
Actually, they do the same thing that the Italian Fascists did. They start riots while all of them wear matching black garb, and then blame the riots on "police brutality" in order to get "victim points".
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>>94515942
>things get shittier in russia after the fall of the Soviet Union
>russians vote to keep the soviet union
>"WOW STUPID RUSSIANS DON'T KNOW SHIT ABOUT FREEDOM"
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>>94516008
I didn't say that. I'm sure they know everything about starving to death.
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>>94516025
then why are there more people in capitalist russia starving than there were in soviet russia ?
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Communism isn't a threat because they just end up dying of hunger. At least Nazis ate 3 meals a day
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>>94516055
>>94516048
why are you so bootyblasted ?
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>>94516048
Because dumb ruskies can't even do capitalism right. They're busy retarded. No socioeconomic system can save them.
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>>94516008
Well, they did live under a brutal mind-raping tyranny for 70 years.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5QTjg2HI5Y
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>>94516072
Why would I be booty blasted? Communism is dead and basically just a meme at this point.
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>>94515945

Point still stands. They promise the moon, while they give people graves.
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>>94515466
>Solzhenitsyn
Pleb tier reading
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>>94516090
>memeful.com
>9gag.com
>old shit meme

stop posting on 4chan dad
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BiSx5LCnugw
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>>94516129
As apposed to the nazis who promised death and a thousand year reign but only managed the death part.
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>>94515864
"makers and takers" ugh fuck off randian.
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>>94515887
>there's a reason conspiracy theory is used as an insult
The CIA requested news media to do so.

Google it.
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>>94514652
Anon not even the so-called cultural Marxists have read the communist manifesto, let alone his other writings
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>>94516501
Watch out, man! The reptilians are coming! They are using gang stalking to keep tabs on you, bruh!
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I love how /pol/tards continue to post their shit, as if they're gonna "redpill" anyone in /co/ with this garbage.
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>>94513924
Because they're bold enough to mindlessly bash the system they love, National Socialism, but not bold enough to mindlessly praise the system they love, Communism.
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>>94514085
>>94514146
>>94514234
You don't know what fascism really is.
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>>94515887
Yes, gaslighting.
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>>94516857
Please just Google, Anon. It's well documented.
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