X-23. Kimura. The final(?) showdown.
As much as Trigger Scent was a problem, it was also an asset. It was the only way she could tap into the Howlett family's berserker rage, even Kimura is afraid of her when she gets a whiff of the stuff and is unrestrained. Now that she isn't bound by the TS, is she going to get even moodier and go berserk without it like Logan used to do when he gets caught up in the moment?
Don't tell Tony or we'll end up having another Armor Wars.
Tune in next month for a new costume, new artist and new direction!
>non-fatal shots only
Oh. Oh no. Now the no-kill rule has infected Fury. Seriously, what the fuck? These are dudes who carried out a terrorist action on American soil and caused to be killed like 30 people. Why would you not shoot to kill?
Well, I'm not sure he could be held responsible under international law, anyway. He has no arms suppliers, doesn’t even technically use military gear and represents no nation. I mean, he is technically a private person. But with the shit Fury would need to cover up, you could make a point that the X-Men are US agents in all but name.
So what they're saying is... Laura coulda drowned Kimura like a dog years ago in her cousin's flooded basement and been done with it?
And the only reason why she didn't do so was no Iron Man suit?
man, that armor's a piece of crap. Kimura just clawed at Laura's face and it didn't even scoff her mask. Meanwhile the armor just snaps off like it suddenly turned into rock candy
There have been theses written about how cards are really the worst thing for what he does.
He should keep a bag of rocks. Or darts. Or anything that flies straight and far, really.
Gambit is a thief who relies on charm and skill to infiltrate his targets. He needs ammo that is inconspicuous and innocuous. A bag of rocks or a coat full of cans of beans is not that.
Cards are small and thin and come in convenient packs of 52.
He can have several packs on his person and in his coat at all times without drawing much if any attention to himself since they won't set off metal detectors
How many beans in a can? I feel like 52 explosions stacked right on top of each other could give basically the same effect.
>Laura, you need to answer for the crime of killing all those people under mind control. Because we don't care about mind control at all.
>Wait, you mean you didn't kill those?
>Whew, glad those were the only good people you ever killed under mind control in your life. So that wraps up everything nicely.
This whole arc should've played out right on their fucking doorstep.
But I guess if the villain was threatening people who were actually in real danger of getting hurt as a direct consequence, that just be too exciting for this comic. Remember: Shoot to wound, Agents of Shield.
Well, at least one character drowned in this issue.
Though that basically just reduces the amount of Laura's backstory you can work with even further. I didn't hate Kimura, even if she was extremely one-note.
They have a letter from her mother confessing to all the murders from in her assassin days, so she's been cleared of those.
And the kills from her X-Force days... uh...
...Cyclops is literally Hitler?
>They have a letter from her mother confessing to all the murders from in her assassin days, so she's been cleared of those.
That still doesn't make sense.
Even if her mother did take the blame for the mind-control and all that, this whole arc still hinged on them not giving a fuck about who mind-controlled her in the first place. They just wanted to jail the person who actually committed the murders in person.
Different agents working on her case. Previously it was Captain America chasing her and he felt guilty about jailing a little girl, so he let her go.
Fury is a hard-ass motherfucker though, not like that pansy Rogers.
Cause Cap wrote 'case closed' on her file folder with a big blue marker and then put three star-shaped stickers on it, I dunno. And they have like a law about not being able to be charged for the same crime twice.
Look, man, you're trying so hard to have a serious argument or something, you just gotta go with it! She's free! Like it says on >>90538672
You'd think their judicial system would have all sorts of laws about this by this point and everything.
I'd love to see a court case for something like this, where they're trying to prove the degree to which control was lost. Or if a person can be charged with the crimes of their alternate temporal clone.
...does She-Hulk deal with cases like this? Dunno much about her.
Even if they know that, Laura should still be taken into custody, processed, accused and pronounced not guilty for the actions she still committed.
A formality, likely. Still necessary under the law.
Jesus Christ, man. You're quickly approaching Laura levels of autism here.
If you were Nick Fury standing on that beach in front of 3 immortal indestructible ladies with knives in their hands, a dude that just ruined a sky fortress with a can of beans, and a lady that could turn you gay with a thought, would you seriously pursue that course of action?
No, you'd fuck off home with your albino prisoner and call it a day.
>and a lady that could turn you gay with a thought
It's Marvel, that bitch ain't dead. She'll have pulled some shit where she can strain oxygen from water, or not even need to breath. If she can rewire her own brain, what the fuck CAN'T she do? Hell, she probably just put herself into a Death Of Superman-style coma.
About time they explain who this woman is. I really want to know
Damn you, way to shoot holes in my schemes.
What if alternate future timeline Bellona visited the Facility to make sure Laura was created, because without Laura she would not exist either. And that's where Laura knows her scent from.
It's over 20k last I heard. Will probably make it at least 5 more issues to the big 23.
But it IS losing readership, and if it doesn't improve soon in either art or story it doesn't look good.
The earlier issues were just kind of boring and predictable. This was really poorly written, full of shit that doesn't make sense, and cheesy cliches and McGuffins. 'I just happen to have a stolen Iron Man protype'.
What was even the point of the Iron Man suit, narratively speaking? To deal with Kimura's super-strength, which she was never depicted to have before this issue?
To rescue Warren? This scene would have worked out the same if Warren was carrying Laura when he got shot down, and then they both fell into the water.
What this needed was a knock-down, drag-out fight between Laura and Kimura. Something really visceral as befits both of these characters being indestructible melee fighters. They're both supposed to be like super kung fu secret agents, right? Then they should do some kung fu!
And then finally Laura overcomes her enemy and drowns her in the surf.
Not just, Laura borrows Tony Stark's hand-me-downs, supermans into Kimura and wins instantly.
>Kimura knows that Laura is running with the X-Men
>doesn't bother to do any research on Jean Grey
So... this is what Kimura was all along, just a dumb meathead, out of her league and only relevant because of all the higher-ups at the Facility.
During Laura's time with the X-men she's worked with Emma Frost, Psylocke, Rachel Grey, Quentin Quire, the Stepford Cuckoos, No-Girl and Charles Xavier himself.
But apparently a non-Phoenix barely trained Jean Grey can out perform all of them
To be fair, none of the other psychics ever got to examine Laura while she was in a berserk state and see what exactly was going on in her head.
Maybe if they'd had a sample of the trigger scent on hand Emma or Prof X could have deprogrammed her even more easily
I cringed pretty hard when Kimura turned up again and started ANOTHER Trigger Scent plot but if you told me then it would end with Kimura dead, Laura immune to Trigger Scent and getting to see Megan again, I don't think I would have believed it.
This and Logan has been a pretty good week for me.
Same. I was worried at the end of last issue that SHIELD was here just so they could take Kimura into custody at the end of the arc, and they were gonna pull a bait-and-switch with this 'ONLY ONE WILL SURVIVE I WONDER WHO IT WILL BE' advertising, but Taylor delivered and the witch is dead!
Could we please keep that unfortunate issue in ANXM containment where it belongs?
Taylor is clearly not writing Laura in her solo run with anything close to the motivation from ANXM. Here it the cowl does seem to be a thing she adopted on her own without wanting to please Warren.
You motherfucker, how is this shit slurry upon the heads of the fans and the character in ANXM character development
YES, I MAD
Now examine these four pages from their respective series, because they serve more or less the same thematic and narrative function: Laura casts aside her previous identity of X-23 and embraces the new one of Wolverine.
LOOK AT THEM YOU RETARDED PIECE OF SHITBAG FUCK. LOOK AT THEM.
And if you can't tell the fucking difference that ANXM version isn't anything remotely in the same continent as 'character development and continuity' then i don't know what is wrong with your brain.
I hate this, too. Holy shit anon, are you not getting that I'm against her being girl Wolverine? And yes, I do think her identity crisis counts as character development, even if we want it to end. How you can sit here and tell me the one very shitty story is somehow better and more valid than the other very shitty story is beyond me. Go eat your shit sandwich elsewhere while convincing yourself it's the best shit sandwich because at least it's got a different garnish on it. I do not want a taste.
nah they covered it in the punisher/wolverine team up where they fought her. she explained she spent the past 6 months undoing and preventing any further damage emma did to her when she wiped out her memory fragment of her grandmother and sent her to kill everybody
The fuck. I mean, Her solo book, whatever one might think of it overall, has literally the opposite of this scene, pointing out how she's *not* the same as Logan.
Normally I don't really get that invested in this kind of thing, but wow, Dennis "Whatever you say, kid" Hopeless really, consistently makes me mad.
This is more the X-Editors not doing their jobs and not communicating with both writers, and failing to keep a consistent message across both books
But yeah sure keep your weird anger boner for Hopeless
Looking at these page, i actually had this feeling that laura is acting weird and out of her characters is because she is trying to cope with
her father's death and become like him
That's how I'd interpret her behavior, too.
What the fuck is weird about hating Hopeless? He's a gimmicky asshole who doesn't give a shit about the characters.
I'm not sure what the word 'editor' even means within the Marvel hierarchy anymore.
I love how little any of these people care about the geneva convention. I know that as individuals they aren't completely beholden to it but I'd think shield at the very least would have concerns about their actual employees going along with stuff that breaks it or constitutes war crimes. (Faking surrender so that you can attack.)
>Kimura is her own independant sovereign nation that has just declared war on Nick Fury, also his own independent sovereign nation
Nah, it's just a bunch of clowns with superpowers fighting with airships.
Also, are you the same anon as
If you are, why you gotta keep trying to drag IRL laws and shit into this? It's a story about a lady what wears yellow spandex who doesn't die no matter how much she is cut, shot, or exploded, fighting against SKY PIRATES led by Rule 63 Luke Cage, in a fictional third world Southeast Asian island nation. Nobody's thinking like "hey I gotta dot all the is and cross all the ts or I might be up against a Hague tribunal one day!"
Am I the only one who really thought she'd turn out to be gay?
Other then that short awkward thing with Hellion which she ended the very second something actually happened she only seemed to have any sort of connection or interest in girls.
Yeah, yeah, dude, they're gonna serve Gambit with a warrant and fly him over to the Netherlands and bring him up on charges for blowing up an airship with a can of beans after he stood there for a few seconds with his hands in the air.
I'm sure this would be like the foremost concern of a dude fighting for his life and the life of his daughteru that he totally-doesn't-want-to-bang, when he's already wanted in 84 nations for once being DEATH, HORSEMAN OF THE APOCALYPSE.
I wasn't talking about Gambit. I was talking about the actual agents of a governmental/multinational organization that are actually participating in this whole plan. I am going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you failed to notice half of the damn post when you read it the first time but that doesn't make you look good either since you apparently don't bother finishing something to know context before you sperg out.
>I am going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you failed to notice half of the damn post when you read it the first time but that doesn't make you look good either since you apparently don't bother finishing something to know context
Yes! That was all one sentence! You have officially reached Laura levels of autism! Congrats! Have an autismwaifu.
Astro City did an arc where an attorney tried to get his client off for murder charges by arguing all the stupid shit that routinely happens to superheroes could happen to normal folks, too.
You displayed that more than one sentence was too much for you to retain in your memory. I was helping. At least you removed any doubt that you were pretending to be retarded.
The picture is also funny when compared to your drivel because there is a female character with actual autism as a superpower you failed to notice in it.
>Am I the only one who really thought she'd turn out to be gay?
It's Marvel, fampai. It's safe to say that, no, yo weren't the only one who'd assumed she'd be turned into a snowflake.
>I am the Energizer Bunny of Autism
>I just keep 'sperging and 'sperging and 'sperging!
Well, in my long and storied travels through the internet, I've discovered that you can't engage with the autists. It's just not possible, because they don't GET it. Always gotta be serious business about everything.
Like you, anon. What are you even doing? You keep saying things like
>too much for you to retain in your memory
>failed to notice
>give you the benefit of the doubt
What do you think this is? A formal debate? As if terms like these had any meaning in this place? To me?
It's a thread about a fucking comic, dude. Look at the cover, it's got a lady tied up in fucking TUUUUUUBES while another lady smirks at her crotch. Look how ridiculous and over the top this is. Meanwhile you're sitting there talking about international maritime law or some shit and analyzing the precise language of my posts like you're Jack Thompson, activist and attorney.
Lighten up, man. Have some fun with it. Even Laura knows how to do that once in a while.
>They moved his Adamantium encased body to the school so he could be a statue to terrify the students
It's now in a hidden mausoleum in Canada after someone tried to steal it from the school
Yea, so she she trying to be Logan or not?
The black and yellow with claws says one thing, the stop killing and go to school to meet kids says something completely different. I would think a name change would do her a lot of good if nothing more then to identify her self on her own terms.
Claw girl?? ... I'm sure we can think of something.
Also is that red skull? I am sure I missed something here. Thing seem to be changing faster and faster now.
She should just be Talon. Too bad that name was stillborn.
That character is Mettle, a teenager with muscle tissue composed of metallic iridium. He lost his skin at some point and that's why he looks like Red Skull. I don't remember if he was officially a mutant, or just a character with a mutant-like backstory that wasn't actually a mutant because M-Day happened.
>Yea, so she she trying to be Logan or not?
No she isn't. She's taken up his name out of respect and and the idea of "Wolverine was a symbol that mattered to people, I want to world to have that symbol even if Logan isn't here to be it anymore"
Like the story that leads to it was Laura walking out on the X-Men in anger because she couldn't deal with the fact Logan was an unkillable man who promised he'd always be there to help her, and now he was gone. Along the lines of "Logan was meant to be a a legend, immortal, but he was just another mortal man, one wearing a ridiculous costume". At the end she returns having learned that appearances and doing what you can no matter the personal risk matter and she starts wearing his colors.
She hasn't changed who she is. She just wears the Wolverine colors and goes by the name openly. She's still Laura.
(except if you're reading ANXM, which is a bad book and has zero handle on her character)
It's a joke about the Hanzi menu.
When you go to the Chinese restaurant, most of the time the menu will print the Chinese name of the dish with the English translation under it. But very occasionally when you go to a more 'authentic' restaurant, like a hole-in-the-wall in Chinatown or something, there won't be an English translation, and if you can't read Hanzi you're just stuck ordering from the menu numbers.
So twenty-five with chicken would be the twenty-fifth menu item, with customization choices on what meat you want. And the joke is that Laura is autistic enough to not understand that 'twenty-five' is the menu numbering, and not what the dish is called.
Sometimes Chinese places will even have secret menus that they only bring out if you're Chinese or are with a Chinese friend. It's also possible that Laura visited a restaurant with Jubilee at some point and got access to such a menu and memorized it.
>"Wolverine was a symbol that mattered to people"
Oh my fuck. What was he a symbol of? Hope? Love?
He was an Avenger and a flagship X-Men. Guy has done some good in his life.
I mean, remember that this is someone who sees themselves as his daughter saying this. Her own idealized view of him is included in that.
>Her own idealized view of him
Sounds about right.
>Laura, you need to answer for the crime of killing all those people under mind control. Because we don't care about mind control at all.
>Wait, it was actually Bellona not being mind controlled? Ok that's fine you can go on your way ma'am.
It's okay, he's got a healing factor.
...come to think of it, isn't his healing factor supposed to be due to special enzymes secreted by his wing tissue? So now that he's got cosmic energy wings, has he lost his healing?
Also going for non-fatal shots is a huge meme (never know if you'll nick an artery and probably wont hit your target where you want anyway) unless they actually have phasers to set to stun or whatever.
The geneva convention is followed by state militaries who signed up to it when they're waging war, if it's just that some random criminals are trying to murder you and you have to defend yourself, then they can, legally speaking, get fucked.
Behold the power Cosmic, granted by the BLACK VORTEX
>I feel like charging an entire Deck of Cards should still be more efficient
Exclusive items. But to be fair they're usually things like blood tofu or ducks' feet, the kind of stuff that most westerners wouldn't want to eat anyway.
He went into space and got cosmic power from some ancient evil artifact that gave him fiery energy-wings. There was this whole crossover with 2 X-Men teams, Defenders of the Galaxy, that one kid from Champions, Captain Marvel, etc, etc.
It was a terrible event that 90% of the time was various characters chasing a mcguffin. But at least we got Cosmic Beast out of it.
Teen Angel, the one with Laura, traded his natural wings for cosmic powered ones gifted to him by a Celestial a while back.
I think he's actually now the final character who actually kept his cosmic gift from that arc, all the others either refused them at the end of it or lost them post Secret Wars.
It was a crossover event with Guardians of the Galaxy so it was like 13 parts but only two two of those were X-books.
It was ANX 38-39 though.
>It was then that Kimura revealed what she'd retrieved from the trunk: a tremendous strap-on dildo with several little buttons along the waistline. "Can't wait to try this bad boy out," Kimura muttered, slipping off her pants and donning the device.
I don't think the stuff with the cosmic wings is even in them, so if you don't read all the other stuff he would have just instantly changed wings between issues with no explaination