[Boards: 3 / a / aco / adv / an / asp / b / bant / biz / c / can / cgl / ck / cm / co / cock / d / diy / e / fa / fap / fit / fitlit / g / gd / gif / h / hc / his / hm / hr / i / ic / int / jp / k / lgbt / lit / m / mlp / mlpol / mo / mtv / mu / n / news / o / out / outsoc / p / po / pol / qa / qst / r / r9k / s / s4s / sci / soc / sp / spa / t / tg / toy / trash / trv / tv / u / v / vg / vint / vip / vp / vr / w / wg / wsg / wsr / x / y ] [Search | Free Show | Home]

>They're not like you and me which means they must be

This is a blue board which means that it's for everybody (Safe For Work content only). If you see any adult content, please report it.

Thread replies: 116
Thread images: 12

File: Untitled.png (181KB, 642x362px) Image search: [Google]
Untitled.png
181KB, 642x362px
>They're not like you and me which means they must be evil!

Can someone explain the significance of this line to me?
>>
Same reason >we dislike reddit.
>>
>>90489223
moral objectivism
>>
>>90489223
It's what SJWs actually believe.
>>
>>90489268
Spoken like a true newfag
>>
>>90489356
Worked.
>>
>>90489356
>Spoken like a true newfag
spoken like a true newfa
>>
The joke is that the line is actually rather unsubtle and not really what a person would say out loud
>>
>>90489223
dude racism lmao
>>
>>90489268
>>90489356
now we sound the drums of war
>>
>>90489223
The significance is that Steven Shwartz is a horrible lyricist and Disney died when Howard Ashman did.
>>
savages
savages
barely even human
>>
>>90489223
>HERE'S WHAT YOU GET WHEN RACES ARE DIVERSE
>>
>>90489223
>>90489536
I haven't watched this movie since I was really really young, I thought you guys were joking with those lines. Holy shit.
>>
>>90489595
Don't. The movie is shit.
>>
>>90489268
Does 4chan actually hate reddit or is it some kind of in joke?

Because I see Reddit sucking this website's dick a lot and it makes me wonder if it's a SpongeBob/Squidward thing
>>
>LE WHAT DID HE MEAN BY THIS XDD
Fuck off
>>
>>90489803
I don't know about the others, but personally I can't stand reddit because of their enforced huge box mentality.
>>
>>90489312
/pol/ is exactly like this.
/pol/ the perfidious Anglo scum, and tumblr are the filthy Injuns.
>>
>>90489515

Lin-Manuel is here to save us. The lyrics in Moana were stellar.
>>
>>90489223
It means that the white settlers and the Natives were BOTH assholes to each other, and some members of both races could be good people.

The message was that racism goes both ways.
>>
>>90489268
>redditors! redditors! barely even human.
>>
>>90489515
His work on Hunchback and Prince of Egypt was pretty good. But yeah, he's no Ashman.
>>
>>90489223
Whiteys were assholes, but the injuns were pricks as well.
I remember this one story about a tribe sold the rights to the land to some settlers for shit. But the twist was it wasn't even their tribes land, they were just travelling through when they met the settlers and decided to rip those white devils AND the other tribe who actually lived in that land.
>>
>>90489803

"We" hated Reddit because they were migrating here and they had a different culture. You see way back when this shit started internet communities had their own styles and slang, in the same way small towns have their own unique syntaxes, as time marched on the same things that happened to small towns began to happen all over the internet. Culture erosion and appropriation.

We originally hated Reddit because they were a bunch of stem losers who were trying to make their own culture, aka trying to hard. However as time went on they started getting eroded by DIGG and the Facebook crowd, and in turn they started to migrate here. This is the hate you know, and because it happened so fast a lot of newfags don't know why it happened.

It's pretty much what happens whenever some niche culture goes mainstream.
>>
>>90489482

It's not a joke. This is media for children. Explicitly saying it out loud is appropriate because they're learning.
>>
>>90489960

The American Indians had no concept of ownership, especially over nature. They didn't even know what it meant to sell land.
>>
I'm not racist but there is such thing as racial superiority but it's not pure intellect some races are more physical than others and there are some who are more intellectual than others. Until we acknowledge this we will keep being ignorant of each other's strengths and weaknesses.
>>
>>90489803
it's just annoying normie style humor and the site is impossible to navigate unless you sort everything by time posted like a normal forum
>>
>>90490011

Pretty sure you're a racist
>>
>>90490031
Everybody is racist.
>>
>>90490056

This true, but there are varying levels of racism and "some races are dumber" is pretty up there.
>>
>>90489223

Same as it ever was...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0TEvK-mjlg
>>
>>90490056

Goalpost moving
>>
>>90489960

Comparing what natives did to what the settlers did is like comparing a bully picking on you in the hallway to a teacher belittling you, systematically grading you harsher, giving you harder tasks, setting you up to fail and eventually give up on school, and drop out.

Yeah, the bully is a bully and he's going to give you a black eye, but he won't set off a chain of reactions off that could leave you homeless and starving in 10 years
>>
>>90490113
Not the same guy.
>>
>>90489845
wdhmbt
>>
>>90490124

Comparing what natives did to what the settlers did is like comparing people defending their home from invaders to slavery and genocide.
>>
>>90489916
>redditors! redditors! drive them from our boards
>>
>>90489223
generalizations to manipulate the mob mentality and sway the mass towards his personal interests
>>
>>90490208
>>90490124
and they say /co/mblr isn't real
>>
>>90490314
And they say /pol/ is /r/donald 2.0 trying to infect the other boards with its special form of cancer.
>>
>>90489992
I meant that the joke OP was making, pretending not to get the obvious
>>
>>90490352
*isn't
>>
>>90490031
How is what he said racist?
>>
>>90490031

I just said I wasn't one.
>>
>>90490352
It is. Tumblr is doing the same with their brand of cancer. But it's all cancer in the end.
>>
>>90489223
Shut up, liberal
>>
>>90490388
>>90490398

>noun
>1.
>a person who shows or feels discrimination or prejudice against people of other races, or who believes that a particular race is superior to another.
>who believes that a particular race is superior to another.

>>90490011
>some races are more physical than others and there are some who are more intellectual than others
>>
Great now I gotta listen to this song again because it's stuck in my head
>>
>>90490483
Different races being generally more intelligent is racist? Facts are racist?
>>
>>90490408

Mhm-hm...

It is cancer all the way down...

...

Anyone who says otherwise is probably just lacks self-awareness...
>>
>>90490532

Saying one race is intellectually superior to others simply based on their race is the literal textbook racism.

"Different races being generally more intelligent" isn't a fact. There are different educational opportunities in different parts of the world but that doesn't mean there's a link between brain activity and skin melanin.
>>
>>90490532
What's even the big deal about being racist? Who cares if ol Tyrone thinks he's better than Juan or billybob jr?
>>
>>90490709
You have a lot to learn
>>
>>90490743

Not a response
>>
>>90490765
Making a whole long reply about race differences and facts, statistics, and sources on /co/ isn't really allowed
>>
>>90489223
The thing about racism & prejudice is that it has to originate from somewhere. Maybe the guy saw someone close to him get violently hacked down by a tribe of natives.

But this is a children's movie and they need to push a narrative that racism is objectively bad so instead of creating a morally ambiguous character they'd rather turn him into a strawman.
>>
File: chicken19.jpg (109KB, 1024x773px) Image search: [Google]
chicken19.jpg
109KB, 1024x773px
>>90490874

LOL
>>
>>90490709
Then exactly why are niggers generally less intelligent when having the same opportunities as everyone else in the US?
>>
>>90490483
>>who believes that a particular race is superior to another.

Yeah a particular race. I am saying all races have strengths and weaknesses. I'm sorry if your school taught you otherwise.
>>
File: Great_Chain_of_Being_2.png (198KB, 525x765px) Image search: [Google]
Great_Chain_of_Being_2.png
198KB, 525x765px
>>90490942
>The thing about racism & prejudice is that it has to originate from somewhere. Maybe the guy saw someone close to him get violently hacked down by a tribe of natives.

Or maybe it originated in the Great Chain of Being that all colonists brought from Europe that separated all life into hierarchical categories which the lives of European males were taught to be inherently more valuable and "Godly" than women, American Indians, and Africans
>>
>>90490962

Because they don't have the same opportunities as everyone else in the US
>>
>>90490709
Maybe he sees himself as a racialist instead of a "racist", I've seen the difference between the two here a number of times. A racist will generally stick to the same rhetoric, regardless if the evidence supports their exact claims. If a certain group is more likely to do "x", they'll generally take this to mean that most do it. Absolutely true or not, it just sounds better to say. If you point out a misinterpretation, some of them sperg out or just don't bother replying. I've seen the same study posted with confidence and then later rejected by anons a number of times once they were told it doesn't reflect the average. Some of them also do this weird double think where they'll shit on less advanced human groups, but will put groups like neaderthals on an intellectual pedestal regardless of their lack of progress compared to other human groups in a fraction of the time. What a racialist will accept might not be PC, but they seem to more open minded than a conventional "racist".
>>
>>90491201
that's some good bait
>>
>>90491201
Yes they do.
>>
File: reddit in a nutshell.png (145KB, 1851x436px) Image search: [Google]
reddit in a nutshell.png
145KB, 1851x436px
>>90489803
>>
File: glasses back on.png (276KB, 493x373px) Image search: [Google]
glasses back on.png
276KB, 493x373px
>>90490011

>everybody says what makes humans so awesome and different from average animals is their ability to overcome including their nature and whatever shortcomings they might be born with through a combination of mental refinment and willpower (Nuture vs Nature)
>this aspect of humanity suddenly gets thrown out the window whenever someone wants to prove some racist psuedo-science about black people being literal chimps or Asians being walking super computers


do everyone a favor and stay as far away from /pol/ please. I get so tired of seeing this trash.
>>
>>90491690
>everybody
>suddenly being right because majority claims
>>
>>90491561
Except 4chan Mods regularly do the same thing here too.

try making a /b/ tier shitpost anywhere outside of /b/ or /tv/ and see how fast you get a nice 3 day vacation.

some boards are a no meme zone and mods will outright run around pruning and deleting threads left and right. especially ones that devolve into controversial subjects.
>>
>>90490254
>they're not like you and me
>which means they must be normies
>we must sound the drums of war
>>
>>90491490

https://www.brookings.edu/blog/brown-center-chalkboard/2016/06/06/7-findings-that-illustrate-racial-disparities-in-education/
>>
>>90491786
>try making a /b/ tier shitpost anywhere outside of /b/ or /tv/ and see how fast you get a nice 3 day vacation.

Is there a reason that /tv/ has become an unusable /b/-tier dumpster fire in the last year or so?
>>
Fuck I hate this oversimplified piece of shit movie. Thank God we live in the Andrew Jackson timeline.
>>
What can you expect from filthy little Marvels?
Here's what you get when heroes are diverse.
Their flicks are a quipfest, they're only good when banned.
They're /v/ermin, as I said. And worse.

They're /tv/fags! /tv/fags!
Barely even human
/tv/fags! /tv/fags!
Drive them off from /co/!

They're not like you and me.
Which means they must be reddit.
We must sound the drums of war!

They're /tv/fags! /tv/fags!
Dirty shrieking pedos!
Now we sound the drums of war!
>>
>>90489223
Keeping the races separate is how you avoid genocide.
>>
>>90489223

It's a shitty unsubtle line but the principle behind it, Tribalism, has been shown by mountains of studies and scientific evidence to affect all humans.

Basically, it short circuits everyone's brain and literally alters the most basic perception of reality (cognitive bias) even if you're aware of it and "enlightened," it is impossible to escape it. Random evolution left brains full of bugs like Tribalism.

Even better one of the bugs is only thinking "other people" have those bugs. But you, you're special, only you see the Truth. Just like everyone.
>>
Pocahontas is unironically my favorite 90's Disney movie, in spite of its generic dipshit story.
>>
>>90492756
It's not a bug
>>
>>90489223
The egg was a Raptor egg.
>>
Meant to portray him as an evil evil evil racist, in order to simplify motive for the audience. Boo bad, bad.

When really its kinda ironic when you look up what happened to him historically.
>>
>>90490008
They had concepts of ownership, they were just wildly incompatible with European ideas.

You "owned" land when you lived on and worked it. They were surprised as fuck when they came back after harvest and found Whitey still hanging around.

Land was never something you held forever, just as long as you needed it.
>>
>>90493310
It's a bug in terms of objective perception of reality not neccessarily meaningless perpetuation of this or that genetic code, though if environmental factors change plenty of the base instinctual urges of species that once served them well have then led to their utter extinction. Think about that.
>>
>>90490008
This is untrue. Different tribes had territories marked out for hunting and settling. Powhatan had just finished conquering and uniting a bunch of tribes when the English showed up.
Also, white settlers traded land rights for things the Natives could actually use but could not make themselves. Mostly metal items like knives, guns and cooking pots. Firewater came a bit later, early settlers booze reserves were low so it realm was not a trading item at first.
>>
>>90489312
> White people logic when they enslaved the blacks
>>
>>90493860

We didn't enslave anybody. We bought the slaves that other blacks had enslaved
>>
>>90493860
Uneducated
>>
>>90493812
This. People also forget that every tribe was their own country basically and are still treated that way today. That's 300+ different countries spread all over the North American continent all had vastly different ways of doing everything including ideas of land ownership.
>>
File: 1456350460312.png (512KB, 732x949px) Image search: [Google]
1456350460312.png
512KB, 732x949px
>>90489223
>play The Forest with my peeps
>refer to the natives/mutants/whatever as savages just so we can sing the song
>>
>>90493898

In Africa victors of war would take often enemy soldiers as servants. It was Europeans that introduced gun powder, a functioning slave economy and the international slave trade.
>>
>>90493898
>>90493860
What about the Irish?
>>
File: 1486276378076.jpg (44KB, 476x476px) Image search: [Google]
1486276378076.jpg
44KB, 476x476px
>>90494088
calling them servants doesnt make forced servitude of the enemy after military conquest not slavery
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pImdvmIw0Ec
>>
File: eerrruuuu.png (538KB, 702x540px) Image search: [Google]
eerrruuuu.png
538KB, 702x540px
>>90489223
Disney boiled down the complex cultural historical and geopolitical reasons behind the strife between white settlers and the natives to THERE'S THIS GUY AND HE'S BAD, ONCE HE'S GONE RACISM IS OVERRRRRRR

There I explained it.
>>
>>90494088
>servants

Against their will? So Slaves. Nice double think faggot
>>
>>90494130

lol who cares?
>>
>>90493713
How is in-group preference a bug an any sense.
>>
File: lead_960.jpg (124KB, 960x592px) Image search: [Google]
lead_960.jpg
124KB, 960x592px
>>90494130
Ya but everyone likes the Irish now
>>
>they say racist lines like "dirty redskin devils" as if to imply that judging someone is bad
>the movie is implying that this racism is bad

>Disney neuters it and removes all racism anyway

Bravo.
>>
>>90491690
>Implying that doesn't prove my point

Different areas of the world needed different abilities to survive. It's the reason why some are developed while others haven't. Does this make people "dumber?" No, it just means it wasn't necessary for survival.
>>
>>90489891
>I know everybody on this island has a role on this island
>>
>>90489223
He will build a great wall off wood, and have the Indians pay for it!
>>
>>90489223
It's kinda funny how everybody keeps forgetting the song then cuts to the injuns and they're saying the exact same thing
>>
>>90489803
>Inb4 "lmao reddit-fag"

I actually really, really like certain boards on reddit. I think /r/Askhistorians is an extremely helpful source with lots of historically-minded, unbiased scholars willing to divulge their hard research for the further benefit of public education. It's practically a public service, the way they do things. And their mod party is exceptional; all posts must be backed with reputable sources, and off-topic discussion is not allowed; which caters to the type of posters who don't bullshit around anyway. You won't find "le ebin reddit puns" or Trump shit in any of the comments, and it's an all around great board.

On the other hand, most other subreddits are absolute normie-tier filth, and the majority of their posts are lowest-common-denominator centric. Though I must admit, I'll sometimes check out /r/askreddit if one of the questions are particularly lewd, and I want something to think about while I'm stroking myself in the shower.
>>
>>90490008
>He fell for the *>no concept of ownership* meme

Exactly what the last guy said. Why the fuck do you think the Apaches went to war, then? Did they fight for funsies? Is that what it is? Did the Apaches just like to fight for funs? NO. Indians went to war over land, women, resources, territory, just like anyone else. The idea that these Native Americans or Native Hawaiians or whatever didn't believe in "the concept of ownership" is so absolutely ridiculous that it blows my mind that we're still somehow teaching this to little kids in our day and age.
>>
>>90491829
>This is what we feared. The neck beard is a demon. The only thing that they feel at all is REEEE
>>
>>90489482
>joke

You realize this is entirely what they thought, said, and did right?
>>
>>90496771
When reporters are saying that peaceful noble savage-tier crap about the fucking Sue of all people on national television with the Dakota Pipeline, then you know most people don't have a clue about most American Indians or their history.
>>
>>90491786
Well /b/ is a containment board and there aren't as many rules when posting. It also sees a lot more traffic so it's easier to just let threads 404
>>
>>90490962
Because their parents instil poor attitudes in them, which cause them to not take in the education offered. Then they do the same to their kids.

Same reason asians do so well at school, or alternatively crash and burn hard. They're pushed to succeed and failure isn't an option.

The parenting and culture where a person is raised matters way more than whether or not they look like a chimpanzee
>>
>>90489803
frequent browser of both and never understood the hate
>>
File: reddit vs 4chan.jpg (2MB, 1974x1741px) Image search: [Google]
reddit vs 4chan.jpg
2MB, 1974x1741px
>>90496741
>>
>>90494088

Actually it was the Arabs who had the slave economy
>>
Hellfire was the better song, to be honest.
>>
>>90490713
Historically it's led to some adverse consequences.

Like, I don't know, discrimination, slavery, apartheid, and genocide.
>>
>>90490942
>The thing about racism & prejudice is that it has to originate from somewhere.

Not really. Humans are predisposed towards ingroup-outgroup thinking. Throw in some basic economic conflict (over land, perhaps) and two groups of total strangers will totally be willing to kill each other as subhumans.
Thread posts: 116
Thread images: 12


[Boards: 3 / a / aco / adv / an / asp / b / bant / biz / c / can / cgl / ck / cm / co / cock / d / diy / e / fa / fap / fit / fitlit / g / gd / gif / h / hc / his / hm / hr / i / ic / int / jp / k / lgbt / lit / m / mlp / mlpol / mo / mtv / mu / n / news / o / out / outsoc / p / po / pol / qa / qst / r / r9k / s / s4s / sci / soc / sp / spa / t / tg / toy / trash / trv / tv / u / v / vg / vint / vip / vp / vr / w / wg / wsg / wsr / x / y] [Search | Top | Home]

I'm aware that Imgur.com will stop allowing adult images since 15th of May. I'm taking actions to backup as much data as possible.
Read more on this topic here - https://archived.moe/talk/thread/1694/


If you need a post removed click on it's [Report] button and follow the instruction.
DMCA Content Takedown via dmca.com
All images are hosted on imgur.com.
If you like this website please support us by donating with Bitcoins at 16mKtbZiwW52BLkibtCr8jUg2KVUMTxVQ5
All trademarks and copyrights on this page are owned by their respective parties.
Images uploaded are the responsibility of the Poster. Comments are owned by the Poster.
This is a 4chan archive - all of the content originated from that site.
This means that RandomArchive shows their content, archived.
If you need information for a Poster - contact them.