I just want you guys to realize how rare an occasion that a Disney TV show gets 4 seasons. It's extremely rare.
Since the year 2000, only two other shows had 4 seasons. Kim Possible and Phineas and Ferb. Coincidentally, these two shows are the only ones since 2000 to go beyond the dreaded Disney 65 episode count. Maybe Star vs will join their ranks
>Coincidentally, these two shows are the only ones since 2000 to go beyond the dreaded Disney 65 episode count. Maybe Star vs will join their ranks
It definitely will. We have 35 episodes now.
30 episodes between two full seasons seems a low estimate of how many we'll get in the future, especially since someone on the crew said they expected 3 to be about as long as 2. I don't know why Disney is treating this show so nicely but I'm glad they are.
Reminder that Starco is endgame
>I don't know why Disney is treating this show so nicely
Jews promoting interracial and same sex bonding
grow out your hair and you've got a deal
Well yeah, if you're counting individual 11 minute episodes, but for some reason, most TV networks count episode numbers per every 30 minute shows, meaning Star would have to have two 11 minute episodes to be considered one full episode.
Makes zero sense but that;s how it works
Wouldn't it make more sense to promote the hell out of this show with merchandise up the ass if they wanted it to be a cash cow?
Like where's the shirts? The toy Star horns? Do they even sell a magic wand that makes silly noises?
>all we're getting is Funko POPS
Though that at least acknowledges that the show's notable enough for the casual hipster crowd and can be sold in comic shops and Barnes & Nobles
They're idiots/they give enough of a shit about it to keep renewing it but not enough to do anything beyond that.
At least there's a comic line and some books (one just one of those shitty "comics" with screenshots and dialogue from the episode, the other seems to be an actually decent thing "written" by Star and Marco coming out soon).
It's hard to market. Traditional thought in the toy industry is that everything has to be specifically a boys' toy or specifically a girls' toy and if it tries to appeal to both, it will sell less.
Star Vs has a boy and a girl as its two main characters (so already the demographics are getting mixed). It's an action show (boy-oriented) about a princess who loves rainbows and unicorns (girl-oriented). The big toy companies don't want to make tons of merchandise because they see it as a big risk.
>CN makes merch for nuPPG and Mighty Magiswords before they even air
>Never air them. May not even get renewed past their pre-confirmed second seasons
>Nick never makes merch for their shows except Spongy
>Disney renews Star vs up to 4 seasons
>Never gets any merch at all
>Even P+F didn't get merch until it was in the middle of it's fourth season
This is retarded
Also this is the book that looks worthwhile
>he doesn't like traps
>Star and Marco got their merch in-show
>Will never get it IRL
I have this meme with more real expressions for girls.
You guys are cool and cute and should hang out more
Remember when there used to be plenty of shipping for the background/side characters, and everyone got the love and attention they deserved, with fanart and thread themes galore?
Season 1 was the best time for Star vs. threads
the star dolls are such low quality compared to the princess marco dolls.
>the background/side characters
>everyone got the love and attention they deserved
everyone = cute girls
>with fanart and thread themes galore
same 10 pictures of obscure background characters over and over and over
>Season 1 was the best time for Star vs. threads
We're living the best time right now. Or we were when new episodes were airing the last few weeks.
I wish we'd seen the moment Toffee took over Ludo and attacked her when she was speaking with him.
Moon's "dead" body on the floor was good for shock value but it could've been a cool scene.
Reminder that Marco is going to think Star leaving was his fault.
Stop looking Anon you are making Star embarrassed
>Star is a plank
F L A T T E S T
I can already picture Marco torturing himself an entire episode over it. All his friends and family trying to reassure him it's not his fault. It either ends with Jackie not understanding why he's still not over it and thus their first fight, OR, a visit from Ponyhead sets him straight.
>I wish we'd seen the moment Toffee took over Ludo
He was always in control. Ludo would never had said something like "we all know Glosseryk comes and goes as he pleases".
Honestly, that was a huge tell in retrospect.
I feel like this show does well on 4chan specifically because all of the awkwardness and autism is completely on-point for how the majority of the people who regularly browse here acted when they were in high school. And note I mean "high school", not fourteen, because many of us were still socially broken until our adult years. Or later.
>Star butterfly life-sized sex dolls
I would prefer that
I'm not sure; it seemed ambiguous to me. Like Ludo knew something was wrong but not what.
Toffee was definitely always there, in his mind I guess, but I don't think he took control until sometime after that scene ended offscreen.
>You will never come back home after a long day of monster hunting with an alien princess.
>ywn fall down on the couch, groaning as you stretch, getting a giggle out of her.
>She will never sit down next to you, before turning around to lay on her back, her head towards the end of the sofa.
>She will never lift her legs in front of you, making a show of wiggling her toes and stretching her feet, still in her knee-highs.
>ywn gulp loudly before looking at her, not sure of what she wants.
>swn tell you that her footsies hurt and that she wants you to massage them.
>LIFE IS SUFFERING
Yes anon from last thread. I agree.
>because all of the awkwardness and autism is completely on-point for how the majority of the people who regularly browse here acted when they were in high school.
mine was far beyond anything this show has to offer
Your fanfiction isn't canon
Yea. I'm actually the Anon who wrote that. I didn't mean it as a fuck you. I meant that obviously Marco is extremely confused. I mean LOOK AT HIM. The last 3 episodes he's all depressed and weirded out. Sure, he comes out of it a few times, but Marco looks like he's confused as fuck. The remaining episodes that aired only added to my theory I think. It also made me feel really bad for Jackie, because what I assumed was happening seems to be happening. The way Janna looked at Jackie several times during that exchange was how we were looking at her.
Man is this show fun to analyze.
There was a beautiful, popular girl who had me take yoga in high school for physical education so we could have the same class together. She would regularly make me her partner for stretches and exercises, wearing yoga pants and all that. One day she showed me her tits. I got so flustered and was under the impression that I was being set up for a prank that I decided to go live with my dad across the country because my parents were divorced and never talk to her again so I wouldn't get pranked.
>many of us were still socially broken until our adult years
holy fuck m8, you either dodged a real embarrassment, or spaghetti'd yourself into the biggest mistake of your life
how can you go on living, not knowing which outcome was true? That's the kind of shit that would keep me awake every single night
Again, leave it to the anons in this thread to misunderstand love and lust. Do you know that some people get into relationships, and end up never loving eachother? Have you ever heard of this? You guys seem to make my theory out to be unreasonable. Its not. Its simply making a point that Marco is insanely inexperienced with this kind of stuff. He even admits he may have put Jackie on a pedestal. I really don't understand you salty Jarcofags. The narrative has been hinting at trouble in paradise. And with these last few episodes, it definitely is starting to become glaringly apparent.
Also, have you ever dated someone before? You don't just "love" someone on the third date. Its actually more believable for love to develop like Star and Marco's friendship, over a long period of time. You call Starcofags romantic retards but really? Marco LOVES Jackie? Lets not get ahead of ourselves here.
You CAN'T summon a succubus, because if your penis touches a vagina, whether human or otherwise, you automatically lose your magical powers. It's also why only boys born through C-section can become real wizards, since their dicks would have touched their mom's vagina otherwise.
As if Star would know what a bra is like
>Fourth season is announced
Considering that we're basically in the middle of the story right now, and the Stars crush is already developed and known to everyone, what is gonna happen next? How is Marco going to approach this?
Nefcy wouldn't ruse us with all this buildup since the earliest days of the show with just passing it as some obstacle in the middle of the story, right?
It was the biggest mistake of my life. She tried to spend as much time with me as possible, but I didn't believe it since I was a broken-home, pimple-faced, braces-wearing, overweight, pale, boring piece of trash.
There was a neighbor girl I knew that I was into that used to hang out with me, so in order to get with her I tried winning over her dad by saying "you have a very nice daughter". She never came over after that so I wrote him a letter saying the most fuccboi shit ever, and he rightfully threatened to kick my ass if I tried getting near her again.
This is one of my tamer stories. How I didn't get my ass kicked back then is surprising.
If anyone knows that getting together with someone you love can only be the end of the story, it's Daron Nefcy, right?
Marco has a crush on Jackie his entire life. and the recent episodes show that their relationship is really very good, disregarding the bit of drama when Star admitted to her crush on him. Plus, his parents are very much in love, and he clearly doesn't believe Janna's advances to be love, so he should have a pretty good idea of what love is.
But leave it to Starcofags to perform the most amazing feats of mental gymnastics to deny the truth.
I would imagine it being put to the wayside for the majority of season 3. If it's touched on it'll be at the start and end of the season. There's more important plots happening in the immediate aftermath of season 2's finale and I imagine the writing teams will keep the romance on the low to give them room to breath and keep the main plot lines going smooth with that Marco and Star friendship dynamic going strong.
My biggest concern is how the show will go back to basic adventure episodes in wake of whats happened. In addition, I hope they'll try to incorporate secondary characters a bit better than season 2 did, less whole episode focuses and more dispersed out appearances to help develop them and the main cast.
What's funny is that you probably left her with the impression that she and her tits were so disgusting she drove you away to the other side of the country to get the fuck away from her and her advances, which may have wrecked her self-esteem
They're written by a storyboarder, so I'd put them on a higher tier of "canon" than the kind of comics written by a third party who never had anything to do with the actual show.
I also like this ship.
>Base the main character on yourself and the deuteragonist on a loved one.
>While the main character is a loser who's in a constant state of suffering, the deuteragonist is quickly liked by every non-antagonist who matters.
I guess Nefcy and Hirsch have something in common.
Again... You guys are just going to completely ignore facts and reality? This isn't even trolling, you guys are just being dumb. Daron said herself that the comics are canon. What are you going to do now that you're dead wrong? Whats your actual argument for dismissing the entire theory?
it'll be alright, we're all spergs deep down. Even the people who seem to be on top of everything and have their shit together are spergs, they just hide it better than most. You'll land another one brah
>tfw you will wake up in the middle of the night next to your spouse in 10 years after remembering some cringelord shit you said one morning in 7th grade that everyone else has forgotten about
live and let live
One of the good things about Toffee just obviously being a straight-up evil villain this finale is that literally nothing he did implies this ship the way earlier appearances did for some people.
Just him trying to murder her over and over.
(we'll see what happens Season 3)
Ludo only knew Glosseryk for a few days, though, so how in the world did he know his habits? On the other hand, Toffee certainly seemed familiar enough with him to come up with a convenient rebuttal that the Council wouldn't question.
The most you could say is that Toffee was feeding lines to Ludo. Either subconsciously through the mental connection, or as part of an agreement.
The eyes mean nothing. Obviously, if Toffee was pretending to be Ludo he wouldn't be showing such an obvious tell.
It's supposed to be a surprise for the viewers too.
One is probably because Toffee is considered hot to some people
The second and most likely reason is that they want to have something that PARALLELZ Star and Marco except if it went wrong
You mean all those characters who never spoke and never mattered and most of their personalities were complete and total headcanon? Shipping them was just talking about nothing. Or circlejerking. Whichever you prefer.
You poor soul. I hope this won't make it into the hall of anal devastation. Its literally sooooo delicious if it happens to be that Jackie is nothing but a plot device. I'm going to be laughing at your claims of mental gymnastics.
And your obvious non-understanding of what young love is.
>Never learns anything or grows as a character
>Universe constantly bends over backwards to kiss her ass
Nigga Dennis was a cutie patootie and I expect you to apologize to him immediately
It's a dank meme born from the fact that a lot of the episodes have Dipper learn the lesson at the end and be humbled while Mabel just merrily scamps around and gets everything she wants, except for like two episodes.
I thought Ludo had had Glossaryck imprisoned for a couple days/weeks trying to get him to crack, maybe under some mistaken assumption of how he operates. There's definitely a lot of episodes between Bon Bon/The Hard Way. Also I think some of that time was spent getting to the monster temple before trying to use the book?
He might have known some stuff about Glossaryck before his lessons actually began.
Well duh. Princess Marco is a righteous, free-spirited role model for young girls everywhere. Star Butterfly is a royal fuckup who lost a precious artifact while simultaneously cucking herself. The merch makers know where the money is.
Reminder that Star just guilt tripped Marco before leaving and she deserves even more suffering
Literally just finished binge watching show an hour ago and now I'm here. What now? What do I need to know? Where do I go from here /co/?
>He still believes Starco will happen
closer to getting that thing off her chest before leaving, since she could be gone forever and she doesn't want to die without telling him that. also friends dont keep secrets like that from each other
confronting the truth and standing direct against her problems is something star would never normally do, so this must have been one of the hardest things for her to do, above even risking her life
Like >>90344197 said they're not always playing card suits. Any kind of simple symbol will do. But so far the most important ones have had card suits.
And who knows what markings Star's daughter will have. Depends on whether marks can repeat. If they can, then I'm guessing spades. If not...well there are different cards suits besides the usual (French) hearts, diamonds, clubs and spades. Maybe the Spanish suit of swords for Star and Marco's daughter, then.
Remember when we all got trapped in a time loop before the finale 'leaked'? That was fun.
What if , when they are making the 4th season and is the final season , closing all the arks and shit , in middle season , when all the shitstorm is happening the big mouse says "no more" and stop rigth there the show?
It's ratings are not actually shit, the system to count them plus the time of airing are really shit though. And the image they create is misleading many.
You can easily x2 "official" viewrate and still probably not count all the "official" viewers (pirates, streams etc are not counted here)
Nah I ship Jackie & Marco and I like the scissor smith demon. Am I in?
Wait, where the fuck is Glossaryck?
Did Toffee eat him or something?
I've never known a network to stop airing a show they've already paid for. At worst they'll just fuck with the schedule. Like how Tron Uprising got pushed to midnight for its final few episodes.
Marco Diaz is a SLUT
Post yfw Toffee wins in the Season Three Finale as well.
the big mouse is literally jizzing out money nowadays, I'm sure they'll let SVTFOE finish out normally on their 3rd-string channel devoted almost entirely to animation while they go buy DC, expand their parks, and create more pre-teen sitcoms
I wonder if we'll see Toffee's father, Gena the Crocodile.
We're gonna go to a death grips venue, wile the fuck out, go back home, smoke some dank, eat cheap ass pizza and fuck on the couch.
Then she leaves in the morning cos she don't need that emotional bullshit anywhere near her. And I'm totally cool with that.
Nononono, I've meant that if I remember correctly disney counts ratings as an amount of people who watched the first show of a new episode during the day. And for Star it's 7 am, which leads to the situation, when a lot of people don't watch it in the morning, but do during the day. And these people get NOT included into view ratings for the episode
Which is why it would make perfect sense for Star and Marco's daughter to have swords on her cheeks.
Though I also like the design MoringMark did for his Ship War AU where their daughter has fleur-de-lis marks.
>entire schedule of live-action versions of their animated films
>literally about to open an Avatar themed park
who knows where Disney's lust for money ends, but as long as they answer who best girl is, I'm a Mouseketeer too
So lost between dimensions have to hop between dimensions by alternative methods to try getting home for a season. Could Star and Marco handle it. With the caveat being the same age time skip in effect permanently.
Adult Star singing the end theme the whole season.
STARCO IS CUTE AND PERFECT!
CUTE AND PERFECT!
Yep, Moon's aunt has 5-pointed stars. One of the nameless kids at the family reunion had 3-pointed crowns, Solaria had lightning bolts, one of the unnamed tapestry queens had 4-pointed stars and another one had bunny faces. I think that's it for the non-suit symbols we've seen so far.
But those are all minor characters at best. All of the card suit Butterflies have been important. So I'm guessing that if we get an epilogue showing Star's daughter she would have a card suit too.
Star wasn't in danger, so the Moon didn't really care. As long as Star is alive and unharmed, it will have its' ship eventually. Or something like that, I don't know. Apparently not? >>90345617
>Telling after Marco already talked to her in private
>Not telling him in private
>Telling him immediatly she'll leave
>Not even telling him it was because of his mom
Nah son, that was guilt tripping
Princess Marco is pure and not a slut, faggot
Some Minion who's specific purpose is banishment to a void dimension.
Marco attacks the portal with his own scissors causing a massive explosion and they vanish.
Cue adult star and marco fighting in some other dimension next episode.
>I don't know why Disney is treating this show so nicely but I'm glad they are.
Most likely Disney virtue signaling. A lot of focus was the fact that the show is created by a young woman. A lot of interviews with Nefcy always focus on this.
I mean Disney greenlit season 2 before season 1 even aired.
>I mean Disney greenlit season 2 before season 1 even aired.
And season 3 before season 2 aired. And season 4 before season 3 aired.
Will Disney go completely insane and renew for a 5th season before season 4 airs?
>Season 1 was the best
>We're living the best time right now
No you fucking cunt we don't. Any media getting popular sadly means that automatic degradation, retardation and cancerous fandoms becomes inevitable.
I get it, but I put this show for my two little cousins, both boys, and they love it. We only have season 1 dubbed to my country's language, so that's all I could show them. Fortunately, the dub's been catching up and now we've got up to Bon Bon.
Still, they love it. Toffee does seem to spark a lot of interest in them. When Star's wand was destroyed they actually looked heartbroken. It was pretty cute.
Don't worry anon. Just follow these simple steps and you'll reunite with your Jackie soon enough.
>Toffee does seem to spark a lot of interest in them
Oh really? How so? Is it the "What a cool villain" kind of interest or the "What is his endgame" kind of interest?
>When Star's wand was destroyed they actually looked heartbroken
Aww, that's sweet.
Here, this should help you remember something else.
>I don't know why Disney is treating this show so nicely
Or, here's an idea, IT'S FUCKING GOOD.
Both Kim Possible and Phineas and Ferb were amazing, incredible shows. Star Vs. is easily in their league so far, and after the first two seasons, is set up to be better than both of them.
The Concept has more 'legs' and the writing is MUCH better than Kim Possible.
Phineas and Ferb had amazing scripts, just amazing, and was only held back from dizzying greatness by it's cartoony theme.
Star is not. As anyone who saw that season two finale can attest, this show is not playing around.
That smash-cut ending. Just wow.
>MUCH better than Kim Possible
In some regards sure, but as a whole I wouldn't really say so. It lacked the same professional sense of gestalt by comparison. Not to say it's lesser but I don't know if much better is really how I'd describe Star vs.
I find Kim Possible to be too status quo oriented and episodic. The writing of individual episodes is good, but overall it isn't a tightly paced, coherent show. Star Vs has a more unified sense of fullness to it, which makes it a better story overall, in my opinion.
>I would still trade a 4th season of Star for a 3rd season of Wander.
Wander was crippled by that first season. The protagonist was so self-righteous and unlikable, I can barely stand to watch it.
Hater and Peeper were the best two characters, hands-down.
Hekapoo had a sexy Revived-From-The-Dead face.
>didn't exactly have cucking as a strong point,
Dipper constantly got cucked by life.
Moon in Taurus friends. Moon in Taurus
It means that Nefcy's building up to something really spectacular and strong. I don't know anything else in the show that has been shown to us repeatedly to being fuckin made of iron. Sure she's not Marco's gf but their connection outshines his relationship with Jackie or anything else for that matter by miles. Keep holding on to hope, it's not ogre till it's ogre.
Also nice pic
>a better story overall
Oh definitely, not even debatable there. But that's one of the few real points I think it has over KP.
I agree KP is too status quo oriented, a "problem" lots of cartoons used to share more frequently as the norm, but I don't think that necessarily decreased from its overall presentation and quality. The two shows have really good strengths but they're ridiculously apart at what they are, which is why I think that it's hard to compare.
You could easily see it as either KP being more well animated, being much more smoothly written in terms of dialogue, being better paced with its episodes, and lacking far much more in mediocre/bad episodes by comparison. But then you could pull the fact that Star vs is easily able to gather more hype with its better overarching story, has deeper character interaction+lore, and the superior
The thing that most stained gravity falls from being the perfect show was how terrible mabel was compared to dipper. Dipper started out low as a person being a dweeb with barely any friends, and he had to make himself even humbler after all the shit that happened to him thorough the story. Mabel consistently remained scot-free from the bad stuff that she did, and was clearly a selfish person.
Is there literally not a single person in the toy industry who doesn't just blindly follow conventional wisdom on this shit?
I mean sure, innovation can be risky, if you'd be backed by Disney money it couldn't be THAT risky.
>the movie starts with Star and Marco saying season 7 and a second movie is confirmed
>After the first airing of the movie finishes, Nefcy tweets that season 8 is confirmed
>third movie confirmed during mid-season 7 hiatus
Oh also to add to this, for some reason /co/ makes it a pretty popular and repeating opinion to prioritize plot pretty high with favor-points, and it's kinda making itself relevant again with this discussion.
It has its benefits but I don't think that by taking the more dangerous route is a show automatically better, or should even be regarded that much more highly depending on its delivery. Star vs' plot is good, and helps it to reach higher highs than KP ever has, but it's not the most extraordinary, nor is it a consistent level of highs by any means. And usually that's the biggest strength people will fall back on for Star when comparing it to other shows, but as one of its biggest central defining strengths, if not its biggest, it's still a pretty give-or-take package in many regards, which is why I can't immediately share the opinion that it's better than a show without plot value.
I hope these star vs threads dont die down. Theyre all I have until season 3 starts.
I thought Janna was a vampire.
ok watched it. the fight scene was great, and reminded me that Hekapoo appeared earlier.
Soooo... what the hell is up with Toffee? How did he come back through Ludo? What's with Glossaryk bugging out in the end?
she looks so comfy in his arms
why the FUCK isnt starco canon already
jeez i cannot wait for s3
janstar is criminally underappreciated
if starco doesnt happen in s3 im going ballistic
>He was always in control.
When Ludo was in the abyss, a bolt of green magic hit him and knocked him through the portal to Mewni. That was Toffee, in the new wand.
When Ludo had his 'vision' of Star, that led him to the buried wand. That was Toffee.
When Ludo was talking to the wand all those times. He was talking to Toffee as the lizard steadily wormed his way into full control.
When the wand was not doing what Ludo wanted, that was Toffee using that power for his own ends.
When Ludo went to kidnap Glossaryck, it was because he was desperate for control of the wand...just like Toffee wanted.
When Ludo was happy with Glossaryck's lesson, and the wand told him of the forbidden dark magic...that was Toffee betraying Ludo to gain power.
That green portal that is leeching the magic out of the world? That's Toffee, attacking his enemies where they live.
Ludo has been gone since the instant he opened Eclipsa's spells. Toffee absorbed him, just like he absorbed Glossaryck and most of the Magical Council, to gain the strength to fight and rebuild his body.
It was always Toffee. Always.
All of Ludo's growth and development, was at Toffee's urging, all to make Toffee live again.
>You got something in your hair.
It's not hard to make a better one considering the male is far less goofy and a hindrance than Ron most of the time.
I like Kim/Ron, but no doubt the better OTP between the two shows is Jarco.
What's it like having a significant other /co/?
you and me both anon.
i will go NUCLEAR, MARK MY FUCKING WORDS
>tfw waiting for starco ship since episode 1
>every episode im waiting for them to confess to each other
>have to wait another 4 months
my heart hurts
I spend too much time in these threads, I have nothing else to really do
I personally appreciated that she was involved in a lot of slapstick comedy, which is usually forbidden for straight man female characters or even female characters in general.
But she was definitely the least memorable of the 4 main characters.
The reason I want Starco to happen earlier is because Marco has made out with Jackie like three times. If Starco is a season finale thing and they only kiss on the last episode, it'll feel underwhelming
Unless Nefcy is the ultimate cuck queen, 3 what will probably happen is that Season 3 will focus on the rise and fall of Jarco, with an eventual rise of starco in the season finale, which I assume will be the final season. If not, we could probably get a kimron scenario or starco would be delayed further.
>moon is part of the harem
I like where this is going.
He was in the wand (specifically the crystal) the entire time. It was reading Eclipsa's chapter that allowed him to possess Ludo and move from the crystal to inside his mind, which is why in the last episode Ludo said the wand no longer worked.
Since the book was blank, Toffee seems to have somehow absorbed the spells and Glossaryck is somehow connected to this.
I'm still confused how Ludo's wand was made. Obviously he partially regenerated around the rock and crystal from the bone, but how did the crystal get on/in the rock in the first place? I guess Toffee could effect some magic through the crystal since it is magical itself; probably how Ludo was led to it too.
>Unless Nefcy is the ultimate cuck queen, 3 what will probably happen is that Season 3 will focus on the rise and fall of Jarco, with an eventual rise of starco in the season finale,
No smiles, only suffering now.
My opinion of Star Vs is still recovering from how absolutely dismal 90% of the first season was. Season 2 was pretty hit or miss as well, we just forget this because the hits are so damn good.
I feel like there's a few writers that need firing. I don't know who, but they gotta go if this show is going to reach its full potential.