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First thread of 2016!
But we didn't start numbering right from the first one of 2015, so it could be #228...
Also, if we go back to square one... should we get a new logo too, maybe? Nothing too different, just a small variation
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Here’s a short list of sites that any new webcomic artist or writer will find handy:

>*-Struggling to find that perfect FONT? Create your own using this link;
http://www.myscriptfont.com/

>*-Don’t forget to brush up on that ANATOMY:
http://artists.pixelovely.com/practice-tools/figure-drawing/
http://www.quickposes.com/pages/timed

>*-What’s a list without some reference STOCK IMAGES?
People: http://senshistock.deviantart.com/gallery/
Scenery: http://www.shutterstock.com/

>*-Here's a big fat compilation of CHARACTER DESIGN REFERENCE:
http://www.pinterest.com/characterdesigh/

>*-Finally, here are some links to get a rough WEBSITE started up:
Easy to use tumblr webcomic theme: https://www.tumblr.com/theme/39018
Do’s and Don’ts for starting a site: http://pastebin.com/kNR2W5mV (embed)

>*-Here’s the contact sheet if anyone wants to put information down, like their site and webcomic:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwfOSHXfrgvcf--PkPz9jXL6p5RqIsrYvXYwgQpgT3k/edit#

>*-We also got a SKYPE CHAT room going on,
To join the chat, seek out 'scribblehatch' or 'starlinemike' and they'll add you in.

>Wise words from John Cleese:
John Cleese on Creativity https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qby0ed4aVpo [Embed] [Embed]

>Invisible Ink:
http://courses.cs.washington.edu/courses/cse456/07su/administrative/invisible_ink_part_1.pdf
http://courses.cs.washington.edu/courses/cse456/07su/administrative/invisible_ink_part_2.pdf
http://courses.cs.washington.edu/courses/cse456/07su/administrative/invisible_ink_part_3.pdf

>Paper Wings
http://chrisoatley.com/category/podcasts/
https://web.archive.org/web/20140625035030/http://paperwingspodcast.com/

>(NEW!) Fonts for your webcomic on Blambot:
http://www.blambot.com/

>Writing Resources:
http://www.cienciasecognicao.org/rotas/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/Robert-McKee-Story.pdf
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it's #228

guys it's #228. next one is #229
people look these up in the archive sometimes. we don't need to confuse them.
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>>78646887
How's this, anon?
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So we can reply to Bones now?
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>>78646993
Ya blew it.
>should we get a new logo too, maybe? Nothing too different, just a small variation
We did that. It used to be 10 cents.
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>>78646993
>new logos

Fuck that shit. We should go back to showcasing webcomics.
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>>78647193
wow, that actually REALLY works for that voice sample you provided. good jorb.
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>>78647221
we aren't pre-emptively giving him any shit until and unless he starts giving us shit again.
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>>78647221
Who the fuck would want to?
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next thread make sure you call it #229
and in case someone tries to google this, I'll just..

How's Your Webcomic? #228

now that phrase exists. I think that's how internet works.
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Reposting my page from yesterday in case anybody missed it. Thoughts?
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>>78647552
that is a LOT of smoke. She is truly the queen of all ninja
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>>78647234
Then let's make it 12 cents
Maximize profit, gentlemen!
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>>78647775
you FOOL! did you learn nothing?
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>>78647355
Hopefully anyone searching for "How's Your Webcomic? #228" on desustorage will gth the "How's Your Webcomic?" from subject and "#228" from post content, but someone could just search it right into the subject bar.

Fuck it >>78647066 is right I fucked up and cycling will only confuse people. OP is always a faggot.
I just kinda liked the idea, like an aniversary thingie or something
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>>78648013
it wasn't a terrible idea, it was just an idea we didn't vote on
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Reposting the last few Kevin pages.
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>>78648940
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>>78648968
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Bump.
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>>78650666
forgot to turn off his cyclopswag

his face is looking neat btw, showing some angles.
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>>78650666

You have a lot of fetish potential... I say roll with it, and rake in the dough.
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>>78650874

But, I am not a Porn artist.

I am a adventure comic book artist. I trying to make the perfect line-art in order to make it bearable for my readers.
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>>78650955
>porn
>adventure comics

Practically synonymous
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>>78650955
don't worry. some of my favorite porny stuff is drawn totally amateurishly. The important thing is the writing
look at 'anewenfartist' and tell me there's not some charm there
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>>78650955
To be fair, a lot of people that do good adventure comics or whatnot take side works in porn comics. It's hugely common practice in Japan too, with creators making porn of their own work under a different name. Nothing wrong with maximizing your revenue streams to support your passion bruh.
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>>78650955

Not a "Pron" artist or comic, just, tease them with the sexies and cuties is all, and they will grovel at your feet, like 90% of 4chaners and internet-anons do.

I'm just bein' goofy.

>to make it bearable for my readers.

It's actually pretty decent atm, it's not so much as an eye-sore as before, but it's progressing very nicely. You have a lot of potential to play around with this, your designs are simple and simple is effective and powerful. You are lacking variety atm, and I would like to see more expression from your comic characters, rather than just those generic mono-tone grumpy faces or these ( ' _ ' ) faces, just of a simple line mouth, experiment with lips perhaps, and contorting the face to reinforce the emotion that the character is emoting.
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>>78651549
>Experiment with the faces.

Yeeeeesssssss.
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What's the best thing to do when you have like 20 projects that interest you but you can only work on one and plan another at most?
Is there any point in projecting a character to be best girl?
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>>78652067

>best girl

What now?
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>>78652067
I generally handle that by writing down everything I can think of on the other projects I can think of, and putting there someplace I'll remember to look for em when I can devote the necessary attention to em. Trying to do all of them at once will, at best, get them all done kinda shitty. Keep a queue of projects and focus on one or two at a time.
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>>78651549
>decent atm


What does ATM means?
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Bump.
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>>78653184
it means "at the moment"

>>78653201
i don't get it. where's the joke?
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>>78653407
I think it's that she took a bad picture and is too scared of the reaction to tell her
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>>78653438
She was taking a Picture of her Werewolf friend (like this Image) but Since She still don't know how to use her new phone, it zoom in instead of zoom out.
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>>78652222
Just that. The girl with the overall best/more appealing personality.
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>>78653773
is there any point in making a character who has the best personality? er.. yes?
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>>78653938
I mean like, planning for her to be best girl.
Readers are the ones that decide that anyways and I'd be a Sheldon-tier writer if I went all "this is mai waifu, she is better than all the other characters combined".
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>>78654450
By all means, make your plans. Just be ready to improvise if things don't go to plan. As long as you don't 'shill' your pet character, then there's no problem having one.
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Not really that proud about this page, desu,. But unfortunatelly Christmas and New Years week were pretty charged for me and I sort had to rush a bit of it and didn't have much time to re-work the pencils.
Oh well, will try to do better next week, how was everyone's new year?

>>78647552
It's real good.
My only nitpick is that I would have but some people in the background looking all confused in panel 7, since I assume she was in a pretty crowded fair, but that's not that important anyway, the art itself is excellent.

>>78653773
>>78654450

Honestly, it's better to let the readers decide who their best girl is. Make them different, but also make them all appealing in their own way.
I think actually trying to make a "best girl" risks just making a character that's too perfect to be interesting
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>>78647355
I doubt anyone in the world actually cares enough to google old versions of these threads. What exactly would they gain from that?
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>>78651689
Does it count if I did this before? Or should I try something new?
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Got Amonzone to do this pic for me. Solaria, the trap superhero. Currently he's having a bit of a wardrobe malfunction. One of the downsides of having a costume made entirely out of energy.

Expect a bit more. Not a comic just yet, though.
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>>78657976
Make it 26 essential expressions and add aheago.
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>>78658113
For some reason a lot of comics I've been reading have had traps in it.

It's been a good year.
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>>78658531

What other comics?
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>>78658113

Bump.

Vectored and with flat colors. Last time I'll post this image here.
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http://supercelestialcomics.tumblr.com/post/136544742025/

only three pages, the new year celebration kind of messed up my planning, oh well.
thinking about changing the background color into something more earthy, this shade is too yellow.
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>>78659327
forgot a pic
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>>78659339

Looking good! Love the style!
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WIP of the next page!
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>>78660733
Shit, I gave angel a hand! I will fix.
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>>78660751
Hos can you forget how your own characters looks?
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>>78660751
Dewd it seems you are having a problem with your arm-less character because a lot of the stock poses in your visual library use two hands.
I suggest you do something like >>78651689
but with poses rather than facial expressions. First fill it up with poses where a character with all their limbs uses hand and arm gestures to strengthen the pose. Then do it again, but this time your character has to communicate the same idea only using one hand.
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>>78661068
I would if I didn't do that with Angel like, three days ago.

Maybe sometime soon.
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Bumpo the magnificent.
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http://bug-quest.tumblr.com/post/136613224700/
it was an easy panel to draw
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>>78661116
this garbage gave me a headache
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>>78660733
>make mw wanna

this is cute. and i love how they misintepret george's villainous muttering
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Original design do not steal (c)(r)tm

The hours put into it were probably not worth it, but at least the next time I'll want to use this software, things should go faster. I hope.
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>>78662692
hnnnngh abdomen
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>>78662692
>>78663678
Mae is not for sexuals
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>>78662692

Yo, Scrublord.

Can I ask you question?
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>>78664050
...
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>>78664068

Wow, That was quick.

How old is the moth girl? Or is it the same moth girl?
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>>78664207
early adulthood in moth years
Not that many years in real-years
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>>78661116
>no aheago face
why did you even bother?
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Finally getting back to this stuff. Building up a buffer so I can start updating in February.
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>>78664999
I like your font

what font is that
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>tfw u cant draw and want to start a webcomic
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>>78665238
It's never too late to learn.
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>>78665238
Look at Dewd, he makes webcomic without knowing how to draw.

You'll be fine m8.
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>>78665321
Dewd is not the worst webcomic artist to post in these threads.
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>>78665460
This.

Pretty much every time I see somebody bitching about Dewd I have to assume it's the worst webcomic artist in these threads trying to claw his way to the number 2 spot.
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>>78664999
Oh snap, I got trips. Anyway, next page is sketched.
>>78665163
Letter-O-Matic. In photoshop, I keep it sharp.
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Finished this page!
>>78664723
Angel is above that. She's probably the one to clap and cheer about how good you're doing.

Sarah on the other hand...
>>78665460
>>78665543
Aw, thanks!
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>>78663668
>Original design do not steal (c)(r)tm

this was funny
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>>78665826
Why doesn't Annabeth just get a heavier coat?
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>>78665914
Because if he gets too hot he will die.
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>>78665948
It's called dressing in layers.
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New page spread up! Hope you guys like it!

http://www.beatwarriorcomic.com/comic/beat-warrior-volume-1-pages-37-and-38/
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>>78665826
You misspelled a word on that page. Try to find it!
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>>78666313
>tfw I can't find it.
Maximum worry.
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>>78666507
I saw it on the second read of the page, you've gotta step your game up Dewd.

Hint: it's very small.
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In yesterday alone, my site did more traffic than it did in the entire month of September 2015.

Feels good man.
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>>78666543
Ah ok, now I see it.

Will fix. Thanks!
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Who /no buffer master race/ here?

Living on the edge and loving* every minute of it.
*hating
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>>78667261
Meee! Life is a rollercoaster and I think I'm addicted to the stress! I'm trying to create one but I'm about to say fuck it and update as I finish.
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>>78665914
skinny body full of metal. Insulation doesn't help if you have little meat on your bones to begin with, and once that metal starts solidifying anna is gonna seize up
right dewd?
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>>78667920
Yeah. That or start to melt from heat.
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>>78667979
What metal is she made of that melts at typical outdoor temperatures???
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Progress on page 1 continues.
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>>78668380
Well, he get's heated up really easily so you never know what'll happen.
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>>78668701
That seems like really weak logic.
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>>78668941
In this world comedy can break logic.
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>>78668986
Weeeaaaaaaak.
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>>78668669
Have you checked out myscriptfont? You could probably make a couple of badass fonts based on your handwritten ones so you can consistently replicate the sounds of your characters voices and all.

Anyway, your comic looks really cool. Feels kinda mysterious.
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>>78669046
you're weak
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>>78669069
Oh, no I hadn't. Thank you very much - this could save me a lot of time. I will check that out immediately!
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>>78667261
Reporting in!
Buffers, like insurance, going to the doctor, doing your class assignments and not living up to your neck in debt, are for people afraid of life!

But no seriously I am going to get myself a buffer or I am going to die in the attempt. Hopefully before the end of this chapter.
Also in the next chapter I should probably plan things out a bit more thoroughly because this whole "not sure what's actually gonna happen on this page until two days before it goes up" thing is pretty annoying.
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Some progress on page two.

Lot of moving and rejiggering speech bubbles. Got another inset panel (or maybe two), to add, then hopefully just a bit of texture added to the flat colours (made a start with some of the big colour backdrop panels), neaten up the gutter spacing, and that's that.

Penciller thinks someone else should get the line 'Those madmen...' He might be right, annoyingly.

We got a tumblr now at peaceoneers.tumblr.com
That simple webcomic theme is great, very new to tumblr but seems like a good platform until we can build up enough content to warrant a website.
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>>78654895

Without text you can really see how much personality you put into your speech bubbles. That's crazy good.

Some great gaelic landscapes too.

>>78663668
Is this for reference when drawing? Would you just do that for regular locations or is it easy and quick enough to do for all sorts?

>>78659339
I quite like the yellow (and that sweet Mignola-esque content on it). It make it look like a cheap paperback.

Like giallo, I think. Pulpy.

>>78668669
If you do make any fonts and feel like sharing, I know I'd be interested. Real good job.

Also digging the creepy, this is nice stuff. The way the cloak hangs around the skull (especially where it lets the...horns? through) is really nice, real imposing.
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>>78671895
The horns, yeah. She looks like this from the front, in an idealized way. Also thanks! I hope people enjoy reading it and subscribe to it. I've already set up a place for it to go - just have to get to the whole uploading pages bit.
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Thread question: who is your /hyw/ waifu?
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>>78672209

Dewd, go back home.
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>>78672101
Shit me that's nice design. Cosmic creepy.

I'll be sure to look out for a link when you do put up pages someplace.

Are you drawing in pencils, scanning, then going over with a tablet digitally, or what?
My penciller buddy got a tablet for Christmas and seems wary about giving up physical drawing, so I'm curious about people who find a good balance.
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>>78672209
After one panel and one (still under revision) line on the unfinished second page of an unknown comic?

Gotta be Clarity Koestler, right?
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>>78672313
I'm mostly digital. The second page I sketched up while I was at my weekly pen and paper RPG session, took a photo of it with my phone, and referred to it as I drew. Of course, it came out a little differently than I originally wanted on account of my being poor at figure drawing. I'm still a little better at pencil drawing despite having years of practice on a digitizer - but that's also partly because my tablet doesn't have a screen so I just have to watch what I draw as a I draw it.

Her present character design is being pulled straight from a game I made a year ago called Ouroboros: The Sacrifice, where I did my best to emulate an 'ink on paper' feel without using shadows or color (with exceptions to the odd scene, such as pic related). I wanted her to almost embody the concept of 'larger than life', and pieced her together over I think 8 concept drawings. Before then I had no portrait of her beyond what her Scythe looked like but I like the current incarnation enough to keep it this way indefinitely.

If you'd like a link, it's presently being hosted here: http://afterdeath.the-comic.org/
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>>78672568
Ta for the link, will get reading.
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>>78672209
I hope one day my characters will be waifu/husbando material.
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What colorists do /hyw/ emulate? Been really getting into Dave Stewart recently, trying hard to figure out how he does what he does (like off-colour blemishes here and there that make it look painted and authentic).

>>78672673
Or will do when more gets uploaded. Got it saved, anyhow.
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>>78672673
Apologies that it's not more than a splash page for the moment. I should be putting up page one fairly soon. I'm about 2/3 with the inking of it.

I'm concerned about how much time it's taking though, so I might scale back the detail on the comic some to make updates come quicker. 2-3 days/page doesn't leave me a whole lot of time to myself after all haha.
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>>78668701
>>78667979
I'm not sure about that part. but I don't know the biology of metal demons. Maybe it's something like gold where if it heats up it becomes so malleable it collapses
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>>78668669
This is really comin' together.
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>>78670177
haha, has she been around long enough to see the alphabet get smaller
i didnt know those ever did that
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>>78672209
um.. Jam. Or maybe Miss Melee's daughter.
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>>78672923
i mostly imitate fanartists actually. i got really into mimicking vanilly and :B back in the adventure time drawthread era
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>>78673581
This new font is bangin. I'm loving what this frees me up to be able to do.

>>78669069
Imma make a thank you frame, anon. This is going to make this comic way more badass and much faster to produce.
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>>78672923
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>>78672810
This. I've had a few random fangirls before but I don't know if any waifu yet.
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five more pages to go in pop punk soap opera world

http://poodledooples.com/comics
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WIP of the next page!

>>78672209
refreshing to see someone who wants someone other than annabeth for once!
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>>78674990
panel 8 made me lauugh

should be its not it's eyes
also when she says 'before' that sounds like you're talking about before she was posessed.. but they were open when she wasn't, right?
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Comic is done, but I think I might re-letter. It's hard to read for me but that might also be cause of my poor eyesight.

>>78673881
Glad I could help! Looks good!
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>>78675216
scaly armored feet all the way
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>>78675174
Oh yeah, I meant to say open, whoops!
thanks for the typo help.
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One more panel and one more page to go and I'll have 3 pages ready to go and 1 out the door.
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>>78674990
That fourth panel is so terrible.
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How do you feel about panty-shots, /hyw/?
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>>78675691
If subtle, they good.
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>>78675691
They're usually pointless.
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>>78675691
i don't approve of panties, but if you're going to include them, at least don't cover them up
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>>78675691
Severely dependent on tone. Even more so on your ability to pull off the tone you're going for.
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>>78675691
I think they're really gay. If you want to show pussy or ass, just show it, don't fucking dawdle.

Unless there's an actual excuse for a woman's shirt to fly up, like she's falling or something, and then it's only physics.
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Thread activity: draw fanart of my comic. But I won't tell you what my comic is so just draw fanart of every comic in these threads until I tell you to stop.
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>>78678176
Personally I want people to draw fanart of my comic because they like it.

Not because it's an exercise.
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>>78678221
The next phase of my plan is to brainwash the entire thread into liking each other's comics.
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>>78678221
Yeah, I like suprise fanarts.

I will never get over the shock (and erection) I felt when I got a porn collage of all the girls getting fucked by the MC of my comic.
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>>78678287
Wow. I can only dream. I plan on drawing porn eventually, but I don't want to be the first.
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>>78678176
This is my general policy when we discuss fanart, and I'm like "i want some" and someone's like "who are you?"
i don't want you doing it because I happened to pipe up
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I was actually thinking of making a thread asking about, not necessarily our webcomics, but our patreons, if you have any, and what you offer as rewards to patrons, what your tactics are for getting patrons, any tips, how many patrons you have, etc. Does anyone here have a patreon for their webcomic?
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>>78678344
No, I've got no interest in making money. I'm willing to do stuff for fans, but this is just a hobby.
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>>78678344
No patreon yet but my comic will have one soon. Can't wait for the crippling depression to ensue because nobody donates to it!
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Any final suggestions for this page before I start work on the the page which kicks this all off (and my webcomic dies in its cradle)?
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>>78678635

Art and drawing is cool as hell, but I'm not going to lie: The black spray-canning isn't really working for me. I feel like you should use actual tones, or find some other way to achieve that effect.

I can't really describe why, but it sort of clashes with the beautiful art, and just looks kinda cheap on it.
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>>78678344
I have one. I have no idea what to do with it. Every so often I get a few pity bucks.
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>>78678715
>The black spray-canning isn't really working for me. I feel like you should use actual tones, or find some other way to achieve

Yeah, it doesn't read well from a distance. I switched it back from noise to ellipse toning. Looks a lot more 'generic' this way though until you get up close.
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>>78678344
best way to a successful patreon is to either appeal to a niche group (fetish comics, gender identity comics), or just have a great comic. Most of you posting here should not start a patreon, you'll just embarrass yourself.
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>>78679467
cant embarrass yourself without a following
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>>78678344
I have a patreon related to my comic.

Number one tip, have fans before you make it. A lot of them. Patreons are this webcomic generations T-shirt design. You make it too early and you look sad and desperate.
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>>78679558
Right. Be sure to post your patreon here. It'll be the only funny joke you've posted in your life.
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>>78679467
I'm actually pretty confident in my comic, so I made a patreon. The problem is, no one knows the comic even exists lol
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>>78678635
The only thing that really stands out to me is the "LADY VOSHIM..." text overlapping the panel border and bleeding into the next panel's border. I would shrink that text a bit to fit it into the panel.
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I swear I didn't TRY to draw this girl exactly the same in every shot.

also store interiors are officially worse to draw than crowds. I was utterly lost even though I had a clear picture in my head
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>>78673655
It's not that rare - the English letter ſ was only abolished in like the nineteenth century.

But yeah the rune system in the viking era (the younger Futhark) consisted of just 16 runes compared to the previous system (the elder Futhark) which had 24 runes - runes for similar sounds were folded together (like, the rune that used to mean "a" could now mean anything from æ to o), which is one of the reasons why it's really hard to reconstruct the language of the period. The later runic systems had something like 27 runes, much like modern Scandinavian alphabets.
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>>78683752
that's a variant-letter though. those get added and subtracted a lot..
that is interesting though, never heard of folding together vowels.
then you have hawaiian and holy shit what even is going on there
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>>78683780
beautiful singing though. Best in the world, imo.
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been doodling some character designs.
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>>78671895
>Is this for reference when drawing? Would you just do that for regular locations or is it easy and quick enough to do for all sorts?
It's a room that I'll have to draw on 3 pages, so I figured it's a good enough excuse to finally try Sketchup. It's very easy and free to use, I'm not sure about speed though. There's plenty of assets available, so you don't have to model your own chairs, desks etc. If you have a recurring location, it's likely worth it.
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>>78684375
pretty damn pretty singing
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>>78684402
those are totally crazygonuts. i love it.
the top one looks like one of those egyptian ibis gods and the other one.. the lizardy flatworm.. very weird and cool. The middlemost sketches seem to be having trouble keeping the ... er.. 'eyemound' straight though. the near-eye is too far forward or the mound doesnt extend far enough or something.
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>>78684653
Yeah I noticed. Will fix before I introduce them. Several more to go anyway. Thanks though.
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Now in anime-logo format.
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>>78684790
love it
i mean it's only good to someone who's already seen a page and knows what theyre looking at, but
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>>78671895
Thanks anon! Lettering is actually one of the parts I find more fun/relaxing, especially finding different speech bubbles for different magic characters; it makes it real easy to set up longer exchanges without baloon tails going all over the place or understanding who's talking despire characters not being "on screen"

>>78668669
Looking real good there, but I agree with what a latter poster said that the sort of "back spray" isn't working well. I generic screentone will do the job but it still looks good regardless

>>78670177
Incomming Shyamalan twist!
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>>78684790
Updated and finished. Now I'm going to take a break because getting those three pages done took a lot more energy and time than I thought they would.

Comic's also available on taptastic now for those who prefer that. Voting's on page two for how often I should release new pages. http://tapastic.com/episode/256228
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I'm pretty happy with how much I've improved drawing these characters. the left and right were only drawn about 4 months apart from eachother
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How much do you think I can push this reference?

In the story, Little Bot does have to fight a bot that was sent in by Sylvia before him.
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You don't know how badly I want to make this trap comic. Dammit Amon you're making this painful to not have!

I'm still going to script and plan it. Also, I posted some comic pages. Just not here. For reasons.
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>>78687420

I dunno, you really need that hair or maybe shape the head in a similar way. Otherwise I'm getting Nick Fury vibes based on the look initially.

>>78687170
>>78687178
>>78687185
>>78687192
>>78687199

Good improvement and I like the nice touches in the finished versions. What comic are these part of?

>>78686830
>>78684790

You already know how impressed I am with all this.

>>78684402

More potential alien waifus, eh?

>>78683274
>that pun

CARLOS

>>78675216

Bueno as usual. Great character design and color. Hoping to see where this goes.

>25

I should really read the rest!

Also I'm planning on dropping that page on Wednesday. I know I keep changing on plans!

>>78674990

Dewd, stop. I think your drawing hand is going to catch on fire at this rate.

>>78674526

ENDS
IN
SEX

>>78673758

This guy knows what's up. Also be sure to tell the Miss Melee writer the next time he posts a page. He'll love it!

>>78672209

In terms of waifuing, I'm polygamous... so all of them!
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>>78687820
They're from Somewhat Super Comics, which unfortunately, isn't ready yet.
Coming to an internet near you, eventually
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>>78687741
>no bulge
shit trap 0/10
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>>78688876
I'm seeing a very light bulge.
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>>78646993
Hey folks, I want to launch a webcomic, and I was wondering what opinion does artsy /co/ have of Hiveworks.

Should someone apply for a partnership?
Are they restrictive with how you can use your IP?
Are they good with supporting beginners?
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>>78691273
One of the guys who posts here has a start up company called Blu Trinity comics, it's kind of like Hiveworks.
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Who's signing up for the valentine's day sex drive?

I know I am, it's the only time I get views in the thousands.
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>>78692905
what?
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>>78692905
>rule 3
>post your image to your webcomic's site
>rule 4
>link other participants to your main site's blog

Hmm, not sure how that would work, since i keep my webcomic, and all other side art etc on two different sites.
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>>78692922
An annual thing where artists post pinups/bonus comics on there site and link other comics who did the same thing.

It's super helpful. I still get people lookin at my comic from last year.

>>78693143
You can just do it in your comics description.
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>>78692905
I guess I could give it a shot. I think I need more exposure.
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What do you guys think about contests as a method of advertisement?

I've been thinking about this for quite some time, because I have a small collection of duplicate Steam games I could use as prices.

Maybe I could make a fanart contest, but I've never made something like that and I'm not sure how to distribute the prices. Would it be better to bind a specific price to a specific place (for example: 1st place: Valkyria Chronicle) or should I let the winners decide what they want?

I'm also not sure if this is a good idea, because it feels like paying people to draw fanart when they're not even interested in my comic, but they might check it out afterwards.
What do you think?
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>>78693677
Here's a list of the prices. Should be reasonable for a fanart contest.
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Finally got around to finishing the pencils on this page.
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>>78693717
So basically the "prices" are your old steam games you don't want to play any more.
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>>78693836
You can't give away games you don't play anymore. Those are all games I like, but thanks to bundles, I've got several of them. Those aren't $1-tier bundles, though, most of the games are from rather expensive bundles, like those $12 monthly bundles.
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>>78692298
>Blu Trinity comics
I know you're trying to push your company dude, and I respect that, but why should I choose your company instead of one with years of experience?
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>>78693813
What's Mimi's favorite dress?
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>>78687741
>trap
dammit must you? she's so perfect.
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>>78693813
that's a fine pile of stuff
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In stat-related news, for the one person who cares, I'm breaking bandwidth records every day thanks to my scientifically calibrated* Project Wonderful ad campaign. I've used more bandwidth this month than in all of October.
*no

It should be noted however that it's also much easier for my site to use more bandwidth for the same or even a smaller number of new visitors coming in, on account of the comic's archives are much larger than they were 3 months ago.
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>>78692905
Sounds like fun, but I'm not sure I should take part on it. While my work gets spicy here and there, it's not its main selling point, and I feel being part of this would be pretty much making a deceptive advertising.
Maybe I'm overthinking all this.
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Help, nobody is reading my webcomic
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>>78695026
Are you underexposed or just terrible?

If underexposed:
Seek out communities likely to enjoy your comic
Get advertising
Get tumblr
Get fanart of more popular comics
Get pornos

If just terrible;
Git gud
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>>78695154
Thanks, will do.
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>want a secondary character based on myself
>i'm an inconsistent person who'd just come across as badly designed if i was a character in anything
help
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>>78695208
Make it two characters who are best buddies and argue all the time.
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>>78694999
That's how I feel. I don't wanna bait and switch
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>>78695026
First you have to have a good, consistent product. Then, you have to make people aware of it. It doesn't hurt anything except your wallet to advertise, and you can advertise with pretty good penetration for pretty cheap is you know what you're doing.
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How do I make a character with social anxiety and general awkwardness likable?
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>>78695222
And play video games. And have kids.
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>>78695611
Make him cute by forcing the trait, or give readers the chance to relate by making the awkwardness more subtle and realistic ? Unless you're talking about panic attacks or sperging out in public, depends on how you approach the whole thing.
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>>78695611
how do you not?
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>>78695751
Watamote is pretty unlikable.
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>>78695611

It fucking dipper or that fucking anime with Otaku girl with the baggy eyes.

Watamote was her name?
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>>78695803
Isn't she a character you love to hate ? So miserable you want to go on the ride and see her suffer ?
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>>78695803
her social awkwardness is a side-effect of sociopathy instead of the usual cuter reasons. she's a weirdo
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>>78695803
The thing with Watamote is that she was made to be unlikeable.
When the reader enter her mind, she's rotten to the core. She self justify doing stupid shit, and always think she's in the right.
A likeable character would have her or his mind showing that the character has every desire to do things right, but when the anxiety kicks in and the reader sees the failure, it becomes more endearing.

Watamote is evident that was made to make MC hateable as fuck.
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>>78696003
iunno i stills ee her as a victim. her family's so fucking cold, it's no wonder
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>>78696003
>A likeable character would have her or his mind showing that the character has every desire to do things right, but when the anxiety kicks in and the reader sees the failure, it becomes more endearing
I'm actually already doing this with my character so I guess I'm fine, although I still worry about Watamoting them.
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>>78696034
That's the average middle class family in Japan.
The brother is far more sociable and he didn't grew up as a weirdo who can't even look at a person without thinking they're sluts.
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>>78696120
we don't see his thoughts but it looks to me like the only reason he seems more stable is that he lucked into being popular
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>>78696165
I think that the title perfectly explains both characters. "It's not my fault I'n not popular". He didn't lucked out to be popular, he related to people instead of rejecting them and now he have friends and is popular in his circle, while Tomoko decides to shut in and blames on everyone else all of her failures.
See that most of her classmates don't dislike her, but she's a ghost to them because she doesn't interact with anyone at all.

I stopped reading it a long time ago, did they explained who was the person in the bear suit that hugged her?
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>>78694588
You will see.
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>>78696353
technically the title is 'no matter how you look at it, it's YOUR fault i'm not popular' which is even more appropriate. she's been dealt a bad hand, but she's never going to get over it because she blames everyone else
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>>78696426
oh and i actually disagree with a lot of what you said. kind of important that you know you're wrong about that but oh well
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>>78686830
The top part of "After" is blending into the background too much, I think. While "Death" stands out and is clear, even in the thumbnail, you have to really look to see the word "After". Which doesn't help, given that it's the first word in the phrase "After Death". Perhaps have the gradient run from red/pink to gold, rather than deep blue to red?

Also, consider having the skull and horn a slightly lighter tone of blue, to help it stand out from the night sky and hood a little more. Everything's a uniform shade of deep blue, so no major forms or shapes stand out.

>>78687185
Take a look at a comparison chart to see how digitigrade legs work, to see where exactly the knees and ankles should be; it should be more of a Z shape than a <. But then, crocodiles are plantigrade, so a human-like leg would be more appropriate.
Otherwise, that's some great improvement over 4 months.
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>>78696452
Eh, I stopped reading it when the glasses girl appeared, because the character became even more annoying, so I'm aware I don't have the full picture of it. From what I've read, that's the impression I've got.
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>tfw you know your webcomic is going to be big if only people knew about it
Should I spend money on advertising?
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>>78687199
I have no comparisons for them, but here's a really small monster who thinks he's a superhero, and a really big cat who's here for the food.
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>>78697062
No, Bones, you shouldn't.
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>>78695701
And he has a girlfriend who has a miscarriage?
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>>78697062
Absolutely. Spend a lot. It will make back what you spent in no time.
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Here's page 4 of The New Prince.

There was an anon here who very clearly knew what the title meant early on.
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>>78697908
oh god, that realization face
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>>78686830
I know it's a long shot but how do you get your inking to look so "natural" in certain parts?
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>>78698001
Penis goes WHERE?!
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>>78698013
Ashamedly, sometimes with lots of erasing. I just use Manga Studio's G-pen with high Stabilization and do lots of strokes with my shoulder.

Usually if it's not me erasing the line afterwards, it's me doing Ctrl-Z and doing the line again a few times to get it right.
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>>78698376
Odd, exact same technique I use.

Except with much more successful results.
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>>78698558
that's what practice does
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>>78698558
Practice makes perfect.
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>>78698558
If it helps, I do have some YTs of sped-up painting I've done which prominently show me doing linework in them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IqXMikHeg8
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>>78698376
There's nothing wrong with using the tools at your disposal. I'm just at an impasse, I can't seem to ink, but my pencil look decent. Sucks.
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hi miss melee im a huge fan have some fanart
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>>78698617
Are you trying to do smooth, singular, strokes? That's what makes attractive lineart from what I've discovered: getting it right in one stroke.

It does take a little more finesse and practice to vary the line-widths like I do on-the-fly but that's just icing. Smooth, clean, lines will make your inking look professional.
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>>78698744
Oh man. Oh man. Oh man.

Thanks! That looks awesome!
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>>78698376
I never know how much stabilizing is TOO much. I always feel like I'm cheating if I jack it up too high.
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>>78698790
I also gotta get used to doing THIS more. I've been drawing with my wrist all my life, so it's really hard to get used to drawing with the shoulder, especially with such a small tablet.
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>>78698944
Oh don't feel too bad. Anime/manga style faces are the worst for me. I simply cannot do them in one stroke.
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>>78695611
I'm struggling with this too, good luck friend.
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>>78695611
Give 'em some charm. If they can't be cool, make people want to protect them. They can be sweet, endearing, thoughtful, or empathic to others.
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who here actually accepts their webcomic is shit and is actively trying to make it better?
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>My cousin is fat
>Sometimes she gets teased by classmates
>Decide to make a webcomic involving her creating an imaginary friend that makes her proud of being fat and uses her powers to turn her bullies into foods for her to eat and gain super powers

I have no idea why I thought of this but I'm already regretting it, but when I told my cousin about it, she completely loved it.
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>>78699156
Mine isn't great; a good comic is much more than passable art. But I'm trying to work through that and bring it up to what I'd like it to be. Hard work, though.
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>>78699156
WDFF does lack certain aesthetic qualities, but I feel that helps drive the narrative style of the comic.
That being said, I am working on improving my artwork for the sake of my more professional level works.
That and I am actively pursuing ways to drive fiscal success through my love of comics and all things nerdy.
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>>78699182
It's funny and cute as long as you dont overthink it, the way a kid doesn't
make it for her, but for god's sake don't publish it
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>>78699156
Of course I'm shit and of course I'm getting better.

Who here doesn't have a webcomic but likes to bitch about people who do?
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>>78699386
>Who here doesn't have a webcomic but likes to bitch about people who do?
>getting this rustled by bait
Where others respond like well adjusted hard working people, you take it personally and lash out. Sounds like it hit a nerve.
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>>78699535
projecting much? if that's rustled then I'm russell brand
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>>78699535
>responds defensively and with maymays

Looks like I hit the nail right on the head.
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>>78699535
>posts an anime image
>implies he's well-adjusted
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bamp
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I want to make a webcomic but every step of the webcomic creation process is overwhelming so I'll probably never get anything substantial done
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>>78653201

Draw backgrounds.
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>>78702769
Oh, it's you again. Take your depressed webcomic author roleplaying somewhere else.
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>>78702863
..what?
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>>78703051
anon must have confused you with the fifty billion other people who do webcomic stuff slowly.
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>>78703399

I think he's aiming at the possible same anon that always pops in and talks about how they have no self esteem to do a comic. Where everyone just asks to see the comic but never get a reply.
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>>78703558
I've been accused of being that guy too when I'm depressed about my work but I don't want to ID myself.

I think it's safe to say there's many of us depressed.
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>>78703399
There's something seriously wrong with people in these threads. They constantly manufacture a boogeyman for every little thing, from people posting criticism, to depressed people posting.
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>>78703630

I got one thing to say to you. In gif form.
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gay video game playing.
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I drew sudden sand while sifting through the commands that weren't weird
http://bug-quest.tumblr.com/post/136706981230
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This horrible command has been weighing on my mind.
Something about it is wrong.
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>>78704009
How many of the commands you receive would you classify as "weird"?
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>>78704199
It's phrased in the form of a question?
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>>78704199
Pff. I thought she left her bug hometown because she wanted to get away from people.
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>>78704199

Sometime, I wanted her to be attractive to a human.

I want her to keep a small picture of her human husbando. Bonus: If you just draw yourself in the picture.
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>>78704498
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>>78703987
So you're officially 100% confirming that Annabeth is a boy?
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>>78704799
You brought this upon yourself.
This is the audience you chose.

>>78704658
I bet this guy has left more than one weird command
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>>78704658
Yasssss
>If you just draw yourself in the picture
YASSSS
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>>78704853
Geez dude, it's been like, ten chapters sense that was last brought up.

You really wanna know dontcha'?
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>tfw sees Will Draw for Food advertisement
I love you Jim! Good luck!
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>>78704971
>Tried to make it funny
>It is weird.

Goddamn, Even in 4chan, I am the weird one.
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>>78704799
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>>78703708
psst
that's everyone. in everything. it comes from our school system that instills an 'us and them' mentality towards everything traditional
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>>78703987
>licky
>ANNA NO!
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>>78704199
hey you're the one that zoomed in on her abdomen. I was just.. suggesting.. something that could get her looking around for other bugs. Y'know, to move the plot along
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>>78705006
better get used to an autistic fanbase now. it's inevitable. They're still good people.
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>>78705604
I am fully prepared for the FannaBase.
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>>78705655
SHOW US ANNABETH'S GENITALS
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are there any webcomic platforms that don't clog your history when you marathon them? or should I make my own?
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>>78705655
>>78705770
>>78705604
i can't wait for west tree general
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>>78705960
This is my dream.

shitposts and edits of my comments would be hilarious.

and maybe some actual discussion.

But you know, just a dream.
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>>78705425
psst
projecting much?
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>>78707385
hey I admit it, I see boogeymen everywhere too. it's part of our shared psychology, man
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So, I've been struggling with this for a while. When I decided to re-colour the whole first chapter, I wanted to change format to horizontal, rather than vertical. The format I was using would fuck up if the horizontal pic exceeded the 940px wide, which my work clearly exceeded.
Now that the new version allows me to go up to 1600px, I can orientate the panels horizontally.
How does it looks in your opinion compared to the regular vertical panels I usually show?
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>>78708208
why is her neck so tall in panel 2?
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>>78708208
What format is that, and why does it have limits?
in any case, a square is always better. after all, you can't scroll horizontally (not easily)
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>>78708208
>you don't look on a gift horse dick
This is really awkwardly phrased.
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>>78708208
>>78708276
Dunno, I'm looking at the original and the guidelines I made seems ok. I think I made her shoulders a lot lower than I should when I inked it.
But I promised I wouldn't re-make these strips, only re-colour them because I'll end up in a vicious cycle.

>>78708316
The new website format. due to making it with the wordpress tool because I know nothing of programming websites, I used a theme that was optimized for webcomics, but it had some limitations, that couldn't let me change from vertical to horizontal. Now that this is no longer the case, I thought maybe I should try, so I wanted opinions on how the strips look better.
Vertical, which is the typical Japanese 4koma or horizontal that's more comic strip.
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>>78708464
Shoot the original is "Don't look a gift horse in the mouth" I skipped the *in the* the sentence originally had. Gotta make the fix soon.
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>>78708500
well, websites scroll vertically, so until that changes..
then again screens keep getting wider.. but not mine!
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>>78708612
and 'dick' just snuck in?
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>>78709977
Oh, that was part of a joke I never got around explaining. Leslie is terrible for proverbs and stuff. That's why the strip is called Mouth.
But I've been pushing the full explanation and the use of other examples for too long.

>>78709938
If it's not much asking, I hosted at my website ru64yj.com if you please, check it out how it seems on site, because htere's also a right toolbar with stupid gimmicks, but I wanna keep 'em there. If it's not much asking, check it out and give me your thoughts. Lots of people with mobile or tablet devices already told me they zoom to fit the panel on the screen and scroll regarless of the direction, so I'm looking for feedback from people who could see it from a computer.
In my own looks good because it fits without scrolling.
I could use a square distribution, but I'm not sure if that's better than Vertical or Horizontal.
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Attempting to make a very attractive Analestian who is also androgynous and embodies both Voshim and Pyros. I'm looking into their fashion and attire for the comic - and I haven't yet found a style I like.

Suggestions?

Spoiler because risque.
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>>78710185
oh yeah i've been to that site before.. though I don't remember it having a dumb adult filter on it
>mobile devices
god i hate those and wish they had never been invented.

okay so, the site.. um.. So here's the thing, the root site gives me blankness galore, but says '0010 - Mouth' at the top. if I click '1' where it says 'page 1 of 11' I can get to 0009, and that is readable okay (though it's in the middle of a VAST page that scrolls off to the right unnecessarily). You need to have that set as a percentage, not an absolute pixel setting. That way it'll look good on any resolution.
The archive page is blank
there's no navigation. CLicking '2' got me to the same 0009 comic, whereas changing the page url to '3' took me to 008. this thing works backwards.
this is a profoundly poorly set up website, m8
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>>78710323
Robes are good for an ambiguous look, maybe you can put some along with the armor, instead of a loincloth.
Are the hands under a really long sleeve, or am I mistaken?
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>>78710670
Yeah, long sleeve. They have very long slender fingers and I thought that might make him look less attractive and/or weird.
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>>78710590
OH! No no no, I knew I forgot something! There is a navigation button, but the fucker is hidden, and I can't make it appear on the frontpage.
I'm used to it so I already forgot how painful it is to start reading it when you get there for the first time. My apologies. But without this, I wouldn't have found out these faults. A friend of mine said yesterday the site was ok, and I don't need no hugbox now, I need this kinda feedback.
You have my thanks!
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>>78710323
i like most of the design, but the low-mouthed Juniper Lee face is not really to my liking. makes it look unintelligent and definitely not attractive
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>>78710898
yeah shit i have no qualms about insulting your website. that's never anyone's baby.
i dont get fussy about layouts, I just want it to WORK.
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>>78711110
Not sure what to do about that since their skulls aren't exactly proportioned and shaped the way ours are (owing to their birdish heritage)
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>>78711222
bird heritage eh? Maybe more of a beak, even a wide beak would look good. at least a normal pointy triangular human nose.
also I'm looking at this diagram and.. I get that it's not a perfect 1 to 1, but it still looks like the nose should be a lot lower and the mouth higher, with that kind of skull structure.
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>>78707458
what's your webcomic?
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>>78711485
a wecomic
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>>78711317
Well, they used to be birds until a Goddess basically decided 'I'm going to shove mammalians bits into this, shrink and push the beak into their skull, give them lips, replace their headfeathers with hair, and pull their eyes forward a bit.'

This is what I envision them having been before Celanos decided to turn them into what're Analestians now. Owing to that... 'very reconstructive surgery' I'm not entirely sure how to show that they were birds once - while also giving them an almost entirely humanoid appearance.

Blackline edit-suggestions will be considered if any are offered.
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Well, it these were fun to draw with someone else.
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>>78711741
I love your comic so much. Post more, always.
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>>78711594
ah, the ol reverse rito. fucking goddesses.
well you could draw the nose out forward like a beak kind of. That's the traditional way to do it. Maybe make eyebrows tufty like owl eyebrows..
I mean they don't have to look birdlike to be attractive.
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>>78711741
HAhahaha. Great shit as usual. Mouth-eye girl is cool. She should keep appearing. I knew if I suggested cute girls you'd give us something kooky and fun

next time:
baking cookies
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>>78711880
>ah, the ol reverse rito.
Preeetty much!

>I mean they don't have to look birdlike to be attractive.
Very true. It's just on my wishlist and I'd like it if I can get it.

"Things I want the Analestians to be"
1: Godly
2: Thin - but not overly so - also somewhat androgynous.
3: Hints of bird still in them but passable-at-a-glance as human, ignoring the wings.
4: No pupils; wildly colored eyes.

I'll try messing around with the face some based on your suggestions and see what turns up. I'm confident there's a way to design them to make it work; just haven't found it yet.
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abump
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Back to the lab again
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>>78715623
what the.. why does that pomeranian judge have muppet legs poking out of his chin?
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>>78715677
He is hairiest and most elderly, making him chief of the Kookoobahs.
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>>78715726
that's a system I can respect.
okay but seriously if he's meant to have a 'fry kid' type body plan, then the rest of that hair should be kinda getting in the way of his legs right? instead it looks like a cape.. eh maybe i need to just see the previous or next page
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>>78716286
You're right I could probably do that part of his hair on top of the legs to match up with the perspective better.
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Started updating again after the holidays. I accidentally left my tablet pen at home so I ended up having to break my update streak. I was SO close to 100 comics worth of uninterrupted updates. Whatever, back on the horse.

http://ennuigo.smackjeeves.com/comics/
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>>78695611
>>78695611

Show their good qualities and make their anxiety and awkwardness relatable by showing how it works and showing it in situations most people are in.

Be good enough at drawing pain to make people feel.
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>>78716469
I was wondering what happened. Losing tablet pens is a bitch

This is funny as fuck. the final line clinches it
is that a whose line reference?
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>>78695611
how do you show anxious thoughts when they're avoidant?

is having them talk to themselves occasionally too much of a cop out?
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>>78716877
You can show it thought their actions - what they choose to not do instead of do. Which comic is yours, jw?
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>>78716776
Holy shit yes it is. I was wondering if anyone would notice.
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>>78716942
back in the nineteen niggity ninety noyns that shit was all of my jams, along with powerpuffs and pokermons and ocarina of time. so vivid to this day how it all felt.
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>>78711880
Well, I tried.
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>mfw i finally got the balls to show my comics to my friend and told me it was cringe-inducing
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got a new sketchbook for the new year and I'm ready to kick some ass. any tips for background training?
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And back to storyboarding and thumbnail sketches for Afterdeath. Haven't had to do this kind of layout stuff since I was in college taking Composition 101.

>>78717301
Just keep at it, anon. If just anyone could pick up a pen and make a great comic you'd be making it big already. Acknowledge your mistakes, figure out how to correct them, and keep practicing.

>>78717350
I am in love with your character design. So dang expressive. Wish I was that good with my pencil.
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>>78717301
>mfw cleaning my room and glancing slightly at the comics i did during highschool
What is your comic about, senpai?
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debating giving a webcomic a shot. drew this in something like ten minutes, excuse the shitty meta-reference
thoughts
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>>78715623
AAaaaugh, just realized I switched the hands.
Making a note.
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>>78717563
>>78717537
>mfw he's right when he called it cringey

anyways it's about a boy stuck in a video game.
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>>78717767
i do that ALL the fucking time.
what's really funny is once i made a joke about my left-handed protagonist being left-handed 'when i remember' (or when it looks cooler) but I was so pleased with myself that I never forgot that, and have been pretty consistent about it since. ruins it.
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>>78705551
Sure, buddy.
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>>78705941
why do you care about internet history
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>>78705941
we aren't going to read yours if it isn't good, no matter how short it is
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>>78711173
Awright! I finally managed to make the bottom navigation to disappear, and added the comic navigation on top, so now it's functional, but I had to delete anything hosted before.
Now it's a good time to ask again if I should re-orientate the strips horizontally , or leave them vertically like usual.
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Apparently Pyros is bad at insulting people. That is the best insult I could think up, thinking as she thinks.

I hope to have a few more of these pages outlined before tomorrow so that I already know what's coming down the pipe before I get to inking and such.
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character designs, tell me what you guys think.
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Webcomic chat 'n sheet

https://discordapp.com/invite/0ckxsOeUFTlUteWw

Get in here!
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>>78720649
Now that's a shota I can get behind.
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>>78651689
did this ages ago.
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Posting my character line-up, just because.
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Annabeth takes a vape newd selfie.
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>>78717301
>>78717779

Nobody ever got gud without a shit ton of failures. Keep at it.
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>>78719049
vertically is still better for reading
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>>78721403
looks like a crazy european nativity scene. love it
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>>78722698
>anna what the fuck are you doing
>i got a bunch of cotton candy stuck to my crotch and i'm eating it off while filming it for my new documentary: CANDYCROTCH
>you can't put stuff like that on the internet!
>you can if you act like it's about demonizing sugar
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Secret purpose bump.
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>>78724985
Vertical it is then. Thanks for your input!

>>78721132
I will make a new one, I just need to decide what character to put in.

>>78720649
Looks rad, what is it for?
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>>78720649
your heads are very poorly constructed
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Don't start a comic
Nobody wants to read
Nobody understands
Don't start a comic
You'll be so disappointed that it was nothing like you planned
Don't start a comic
Oh yea yea yea

I hate to ruin the magic
I hate to kill the dream
But once you've been behind the scenes then you'll know just what I mean
You might think that's its cool to set up a webpage
And make comic books with the funny looks
But no one shows up and your stories all suck
And there's no comments and no donations
No girls will scream for you and no ones gonna give their cash to you

Don't start a comic
Nobody wants to read nobody understands
Don't start a comic
You will be so damn terrible they'll all think your shitty and bland
Don't start a comic
Oh yea yea yea
'cause you wont get paid
And you won't get laid

And even if you make it
With your own Patreon feed
I don't think you could take it
All the bullshit and the greed
Everyone is so fake when they check your site
And they kiss your butt 'cause you're making smut
And the business end will turn every friend
To an enemy oh you will see

They'll turn their their backs and they'll be gone
Faster than can say 'what did I draw wrong'

Don't start a comic
Nobody really cares nobody understands
Don't start a comic
You will sign your life away and then you will be drawing awful porn
Don't start a comic
Oh yea yea yea

Your message will get lost
You will be double crossed

And if you think that the joy of drawing
Will keep you going through the years
Wait 'till you're poor and frustrated
And the fun just disappears
Nobody cares what you have to say
And no one's gonna read it anyways

Webcomicsl will bring you down
And they will kick you while you're on the ground

Don't start a comic
Don't even try you will regret it, yeah
Don't start a comic
You'll be so disappointed that it was nothing like you planned
Don't start a comic
Oh yea yea yea

So just give up now
I'll show you how

Don't start a comic
Don't start a comic
Don't start a comic
Don't start a comic.
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>>78729491
maybe you should stick to making a comic. you're not much of a musician
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>>78728186
Comic about space magicians with swords. real ones not the silly lazer kind like those OTHER space magicians use.

>>78728423
Im inclined to agree, but you just stating this doesn't really point me in a direction to improve.
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>>78729491
Reel big fish is ok at best

pls no quote
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Dewd please learn to compose.

You have a good aptitude for expressive characters, coloring techniques and other details but the underlying shapes are complete shit and it drags everything down.

I'm not sure if you are or not, but it LOOKs like you just draw outlines freehand without even sketching a workable body shape. The anatomy is fucked up so much of the time, and not in an aesthetically interesting cartoon way, but an ugly rushed way.
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>>78729644
Post your sword designs.
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>>78729718
he's doing construction, but his ability to draw circles or even lines are about as bad as you'd think
he's getting better though (parallel lines are starting to actually be parallel, hands have all the parts to them, faces aren't melting anymore). And let's face it, lots of popular cartoons are made of random geometric shapes. i'll still take dewd over butch hartman
still, he's gotta keep at it.. keep slowing down and practicing fine control.
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I am now stream together pages from 3 separate attempt at rebooting my comic... 1/2
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>>78729887
Stringing together? string? derp,
2/2
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>>78729938
Strong stuff. Hope you make it big.
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>>78729887
>>78729938
https://discord.gg/0ckxsOeUFTlUteWw

Join this chat.
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>>78729718
Don't tell Dewd to get better, just tell him to definitively state Annabeth's sex. That's all that really matters in his comic.
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>>78730079
haven't seen someone this invested since Pat
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>>78729741
Realized i didn't have any! so i drew some up real quick.
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>>78730432
>not a chain-sword
Yeah, it's obviously a cutter
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>>78730432
gud sords
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>>78730299
If I can't see this fictional character's junk clearly I'll never know if I'm gay or not.
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>>78674526
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>>78730432
The blades are pretty nice. I'm not fond of the way the straight swords narrow at the hilt, but it's not like the style isn't popular with other people so that's just my >opinion. Maybe make Heather taper more towards the point, so you've got one sword that's fat at the tip and one that's slim and sleek.
I do think the hilts on the straight swords are a bit boringly shaped (and Heather's just seems way too thin compared to the blade), being completely regular all the way down to the pommel. Real life longswords often had grips that vary a lot in the name of ergonomy - maybe something like this could look cool?

PS why is Heather's name the only one in quotes?
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>>78730754
i still remember joining cowboy bebop a bit late, seeing Ed, falling in love, then hearing her referred to as Ed
i was like
no way. come on. don't do this to me
and they didn't. thank god
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>>78725227
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1SYn4tDJbsR

>>78730299
Who's pat?

>>78731108
How the hell did valentine even know ed was a girl?
All she did was say at the end of the episode was "Oh! So you are a girl!"
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>>78731530
I feel like an inspiration
>Pat
SNL sketch that was run into the ground. Still funny because julia sweeney. though in retrospect pat could only have been male, because a female pat presents no confusion or ambiguity.
http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/its-pat/n10133 sample

I just assume Faye took a look. I mean she's got those tight bike shorts on, not much to the imagination there
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>>78729644
>m inclined to agree, but you just stating this doesn't really point me in a direction to improve.

study how to construct heads. dont just say nyah i wont improve because you haven't spoonfed me answers.

if you can tell that you're lacking in some form it's up to you to think critically on how to improve. don't put that responsibility on anybody else but yourself
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>>78729717
I love their first album, but haven't heard much after that. Do they start sucking or do I just have shit taste?
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>>78731757
>your heads are poorly constructed
>well, what do I do about it?
>construct heads better

If you don't know what's wrong with his heads, keep your mouth shut.

Your criticism needs very basic improvement.

Learn how to critique better.
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>>78731676
Now I feel like I should just do a casual reveal in contrast to all this buildup.
Or maybe I'll just never do it, We'll see~
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>>78731757
>Continues being unhelpful while getting defensive

haha this guy
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>>78731794
your greentext is reductive and shows how arrogant you are, kaze.

i clearly said study how to construct heads. not to mention that it's YOUR responsibility as the artist to improve. like i said before, if you agree that construction is something you struggle with, practice it. work to improve what you're weak in. don't get defensive, don't say it's a shitty critique when you agree with it. it's nobody's job but your own to improve.

anyone can be a critic, and your art is full of flaws kaze. don't get so defensive when people call you out on it.

>>78731879

now you're just projecting and samefagging. i have nothing to defend. you're the one who's trying to defend your work and devaluing and form of criticism because of ignorance and arrogance
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>>78732094
I like how

you're writing paragraphs about how i'm refusing to do shit that i never refused to do

and also still not being helpful at all

>>78731794
that aint me son
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>>78732250
your work has made incremental improvement in months. like i said several times before, it's nobody's job to help you, except maybe if you go to art school but i really doubt that you do.

you agree that you struggle with construction, but instead of accepting your shortcomings and trying to improve you'd rather argue about the quality of a critique.

maybe if i spell it out for you it'll get through your dense skull: help yourself.
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hey look more swords
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>>78732250
>and also still not being helpful at all

What a whiny cunt.

>Wah, wah you're not helping me.
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>>78732094
You're talking to the wrong guy. I'm not the artist. Just a guy who's pointing out how retarded your criticism is.

>anyone can be a critic

Sure. And anybody can use a pencil to draw a picture. Some people work at it. Some people are retards who never learn. Criticism is a lot like drawing.

You appear to be one of the retards. One of the dA-tier fuckers who never wants to learn either.
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>>78732629

don't get upset kaze. calling criticisms retarded won't make them less valid
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>>78732629
So what do you propose exactly? How was the criticism bad or wrong? Anon is right, you can't expect a critic to give every single answer. At some point the artist has to connect the dots themselves. Continuously using the word retarded to make a point really just does the opposite. You're saying a lot of nothing.
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>>78732727
Well you could have told him, for example, what was actually wrong. Like how his jaws are being projected too far back, and his ears were subsequently being displaced too far back.

But then again, that would actually require knowing what you're talking about, and it seems you know as fuckall about art as you do about criticism or rational thought.
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>>78732322

realtalk, I study this shit daily thanks,

what i'm, actually amazed at is how i never asked for help?

at all?

Whether your "advice" is even relevant is besides the point. You clearly either know nothing helpful worth sharing, or you just refuse to share on the grounds that people like me should help themselves.

In either case, you have no reason to be replying. it doesn't add anything. you're like discarded horse hooves
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I'm getting some weird pressure sensitivity derpiness recently. First sign my cheapo 4 y.o. tablet is on its last leg?
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>>78732847
hm, I never noticed that, thanks.

I think one of the more difficult things is keeping a sense of style in the drawing while still adhering to anatomy.

I know i'm allowed SOME leeway in that regard but i never really know what just looks weird to people vs what i can get away with
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I keep wondering why critics in this thread believe the shit they write is sacred text that artists should be thankful to be privileged enough to gaze upon.
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>>78733084
Holier than thou types. They really think their own shit don't stink.

It's part of a greater problem on 4chan as a whole. Everybody just bitching about everything without ever actually doing anything themselves. People say it's got something to do with millenial entitlement. Not sure about that, but it wouldn't surprise me either.
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>>78733045
Yeah, I know what you mean. You'd like to draw as cartoony as you want to. I'm the same way. But you've got to learn solid, realistic construction very well first, and then when you push boundaries like that, you're aware of it the whole time and can justify it.
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Ennui GO! guy here. I'm thinking about doing a new story arc where a bunch of the cast get trapped in a wallmart analogue for a week and it turns into a Lord of the Flies situation.

Idea would be that they go into this big box store the night before it closes down to get deals on crap they don't need. The employees shut the store down for good without realizing that there's a bunch of people still inside because the place is so huge. So there'd be about 15-20 guys in there and the whole thing goes tits-up really fast.

What do you think HYW? Could be entertaining?
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Determined bump.
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>>78732978
sometimes that shit just happens. check your pen nib, check your battery (if you have the kind with a battery in the pen), and try messing with your sensitivity settings.
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>>78733084
it's a strange paradox. you're justified in saying people shouldn't be jerks and shrug off your advice, but the only defense people can come up with for that fact is to praise their advice.. because just saying 'you should listen to people in general' isn't very convincing.
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>>78733293
well, realistic construction of SOMETHING. it doesn't have to have anything to do with flesh and blood, but studying how to realistically depict a deforming waterballoon or a solid mechanical/doll joint or a bending pipe, or whatever.. it could be anything. There are a million different kinds of realistic animations you can learn, and it just depends which ones are vital for your characters... but the more you flesh out your setting, the more you need ALL of them
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>>78733552
I was thinking, the last time you mentioned wanting to do actual ongoing story arcs in this gaggish comic, that it could work BUT I didn't know what kind of story would work for that.
This one.. sounds perfect. A mixture of real life stuff and over the top exaggeration of fantastic problems
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Bump.
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>>78739063
neat stuff as usual. man, seeing him in profile.. that haircut reminds me of a reverse receding hairline.

I don't really understand any of what he's talking about, nor can I see for sure what's going on with his hand, but.. still interested in finding out the next bit
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http://bug-quest.tumblr.com/post/136778874920/
^ me desperately avoiding making actual progress
It's also got an answers box because the post ended in a question and tumblr is weird
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>>78695611
My socially anxious character is an asshole, I've got all my bases covered!
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>>78739708
it just automatically adds that if you end your post in a question? the fuck
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