How's Your Webcomic? #227

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Here’s a short list of sites that any new webcomic artist or writer will find handy:

>*-Struggling to find that perfect FONT? Create your own using this link;
http://www.myscriptfont.com/

>*-Don’t forget to brush up on that ANATOMY:
http://artists.pixelovely.com/practice-tools/figure-drawing/
http://www.quickposes.com/pages/timed

>*-What’s a list without some reference STOCK IMAGES?
People: http://senshistock.deviantart.com/gallery/
Scenery: http://www.shutterstock.com/

>*-Here's a big fat compilation of CHARACTER DESIGN REFERENCE:
http://www.pinterest.com/characterdesigh/

>*-Finally, here are some links to get a rough WEBSITE started up:
Easy to use tumblr webcomic theme: https://www.tumblr.com/theme/39018
Do’s and Don’ts for starting a site: http://pastebin.com/kNR2W5mV (embed)

>*-Here’s the contact sheet if anyone wants to put information down, like their site and webcomic:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwfOSHXfrgvcf--PkPz9jXL6p5RqIsrYvXYwgQpgT3k/edit#

>*-We also got a SKYPE CHAT room going on,
To join the chat, seek out 'scribblehatch' or 'starlinemike' and they'll add you in.

>Wise words from John Cleese:
John Cleese on Creativity https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qby0ed4aVpo [Embed]

>Invisible Ink:
http://courses.cs.washington.edu/courses/cse456/07su/administrative/invisible_ink_part_1.pdf
http://courses.cs.washington.edu/courses/cse456/07su/administrative/invisible_ink_part_2.pdf
http://courses.cs.washington.edu/courses/cse456/07su/administrative/invisible_ink_part_3.pdf

>Paper Wings
http://chrisoatley.com/category/podcasts/
https://web.archive.org/web/20140625035030/http://paperwingspodcast.com/

>(NEW!) Fonts for your webcomic on Blambot:
http://www.blambot.com/

>Writing Resources:
http://www.cienciasecognicao.org/rotas/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/Robert-McKee-Story.pdf

>>78567869
Fuck yeah dudeson, I fucking love bbqsauce pizza. i used to put bbq sauce ON pizza. or ranch.
problem is not everyone likes it so it's like.. now you've claimed that entire peetz for your own self

Thread activity: draw a picture that describes your comic's 2015 using your comic's characters.

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I made a Choose Your Own Adventure inspired in Jack and the Beanstalk:
http://jackandthebeanstalk.thecomicseries.com/
Feel free to make suggestions about the course the plot should take, the way the Giant should look, who should be the villain, suggest any OC or a crossover with another fairy tale, I promise every single idea will be taken in consideration, no matter how crazy.

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>>78569893
>I made comics
>It didn't make sense.
>Time for a reboot.

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Did almost nothing today. My excuse is that I hurt my back exercising and I spent the day sleeping it off.

>>78570682
How old is Mimi anyway?

>>78570702
In her 20s.

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>>78569893
Everyone wants to fuck annabeth!

>>78570733
Does she have human parents?

I need to know more Mimi lore.

>>78570814
She does not. She is only Mimi.

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Last drawing of 2015 for me! Happy New Years, dudes!

I'm still struggling to get my comic off the ground. The issue is I'm torn between "professional" methods of doing pages(comic boards, pen liners, etc) or just doing them like a pleb the way I'm used to(as pictured: ballpoint pen on regular paper).

>>78570892
How did she come to this plane of existence?

>>78570898
holy shit dem lines

>>78571036
It's a really dumb story. I'm kind of conflicted about explaining it. It would also reveal WHAT she is.

>>78571095
We want to know!

>>78571168
sometimes it's best not to have everything handed to you..

>>78571168
She came here because of a shojo manga called Godchild (It's only good for the fab drawings of classy hot men and having a nice gothic aura. It's trash otherwise). That's the most I'll give away.

wink wink.

>>78571269
Well, I guess that's her type. How does she turn down dorks who try to ask her out?

>>78571269
>She came here because of a shojo manga called Godchild (It's only good for the fab drawings of classy hot men and having a nice gothic aura. It's trash otherwise).

heyyyy.... the story isn't completely garbage. It had a neat "crazy murderous psychopath whodunnit" per chapter format served in a elegant victorian style.

I'll admit I haven't read the end series, I only have the first volume.

>>78571470
It wasn't the dudes that she liked it for. I own the series myself for that reason though. I wanted to learn how to draw attractive men. It didn't really help so I'm stuck with it. yeah, I'm that dumb.

I don't think she even realizes dudes are asking her out or what being asked out means.

>>78571556
It becomes SUPER gay after volume 3. That mangaka really likes unconventional romances (in this case the unconventional bit is more the abuse than the gay) seeing as her other popular work is about incest. I got up to the mad hatter in Angel Sanctuary before I had it.

scrublord.... are you really doin' this? I thought that scene at the lever kinda said it all and it was over and done with.

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>>78569893
Better luck in 2016!

>You've got a ways to go yet but your art's really been improving. Honestly I've found myself really looking forward to new pages of this comic showing up on the tumblr feed. Keep at it man.

Hey, thanks. Couldn't have done it without your guy's advice and encouragement. Can only hope to keep it up this coming year.

new years resolution: im actually going to do my fucking comic, and other creative stuff, and do it fucking good

speaking of which, i need a video or any sort of visual reference of porcelain or any similar type of materials being cut into by a weapon

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>>78569893
for reference, this guy's arm just got blasted off, and he's been long dead

Happy New Years!!!!

Happy New Year Mr. Skeltal

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First new page of the new year bitches! WOO!

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I'm drunk and tired and cold.
The Sisters updated in the last thread, reposting it here.

http://tapastic.com/episode/252223
http://thesisters-comic.com/

Keep it snazzy, folks.

>>78570682

That bottom middle panel is just too cute for words.

I don't even.

EVERYONE! GET IN HERE!

Join this webcomic chat
https://discordapp.com/invite/0ckxsOeUFToy5kEc

>>78572633
Join us!

>>78573170
so.. might be looking too hard into this, but the symbol... is it appearing there floating in front of them magically, or is it more, er, symbolic?

>>78573518
Floating magically. Erin has that symbol all over the place. Conrad's also used it.. And it's on that board too.

Also symbolic, because it is a symbol.

>>78573615
arr i saw it there; just checkin

You will die
You will live
You maybe the best man in the world.

So, Trust in him (The man of fools) and He will show you the way. Got it?

>>78573494
I would love to! But I'm on mobile. And it wants me to download some big ass app.

Hay guys I want to start making animations on youtube, how big is a cartoon picture? How big do you have to make the pictures I mean?

>>78574492
most people working in animation do it in vector, which has no size

>>78574557
Isn't vector super hard? What about anime what size do they use?

>>78574557
Most? Nope. Almost no one does it in vector. It's all adobe.

>>78574557
>>78574718
It'll be in traditional animation not flash, and I'm using mangastudio5 if that gives any important info

>>78574718
adobe flash. which is vector
>>78574661
this is actually a good question.

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Reposting this since it was in the tail end of the last thread.

>>78575036
>>78574661
The final product is presumably 1920x1080, or at least scaled down to that. I guess the only way we can really know how large a cartoon draws is to look at their raw character models and backgrounds.. Adventure Time used to have a blog with all of those. If you looked at the images at their absolute fullest size (meaning binary art) they were absolutely fuckhuge

>>78575672
fuck yeahhh bbq pizza. i love that shit. and i love that it's avails everywhere now, not just specials and rare niche places
back in the day i used to put bbq sauce ON pizza. or sometimes ranch. shit was so cash

http://i.imgur.com/yNa1icG.webm

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>>78569893
I have nothing really except the comic actually starting after being in production for years. Wishing everyone a great and happy new year. Drink responsibly, can't have your comics in update limbo.

>>78575701
10/10 taste my man

>>78570898
Do it however you feel most comfortable. After all, they're just lines on paper.

>>78575651
Thanks, man. It sounds cheesy as hell but there are definitely times where I need this, saved.

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Happy New Year!

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Not webcomic, but the General Drawthread thinks I ought to post in here.

Anyone have any tips for drawing metallic armor? I can't seem to get Felanor's armor to look right.

>>78576673
there are many better tutorials on shiny things you could easily google, but basically pick a light source, add disconnected shiny bits facing that light source, and then disconnected dark bits facing away. The fact that they're disconnected, instead of running right up to the outlines, is because even the shadowed part of a shiny-thing still has a bit of reflection from surfaces below it, lightening just that rim.. I don't know why the same goes for the lit side, but I believe it's because the light is staying reflective and isolated instead of spreading out over the surface of the thing

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>>78569893

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>>78576673
I'm not sure but Felanor's armor seems like it's made from shiny gold. So it supposed to reflect many different light sources (like secondary light source). Your biggest mistake is reflections don't match. It seems like chest plate, shoulder armors and leg armors have their own light sources that don't effect other parts of armor. Also chest plate looks like it's A non-shiny metal, like thor's chestplates.
I also would recommend to study some armor renderings. And most issues of conan that are colered by Dave steward are good references

>>78575673
Thanks

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Doing more comic page roughs. Did a couple small alts. Which of these do you think works better?

In that middle panel, she's describing the monster who kidnapped her. Just didn't wanna write it all down for now!

But here's the first one.

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>>78577159
And the second.

>>78577167
Actually thinking about it, kinda prefer the first one. The "THATS AWESOME" seems too played out, plus the "PSHH I COULD PROLLY TAKE HIM" kinda shows off Nancy's thick headed headstrong attitude better.

Writing funny scenes is hard, but I'll punch up the dialogue more.

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M back! and so is my robot comic along with AI, Nina and Clara. I've decided to call this comic "Kinematic."

I'll post my drafts from time to time now, here are the first two for now.

enjoy.

(1 of 2)

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>>78577311

(2 of 2)

>>78577219
>>78577159
Have to agree, the first one is the better one.

I'm noticing a pattern amongst the general artists in this thread.

A complete and utter lack of line confidence. Very bad contour control.

>>78575672
holy shit dude you went full Dorkly at the end there

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http://bug-quest.tumblr.com/post/136162499200/


Finally
Man that chapter was a fuckin' mess.
Sorry about that

took too long to articulate it ending

>>78575651
Thank you so much man, always good to get that little boost to keep ya goin.

>>78577761
salute* happy new year!

>>78571964
>i need a video or any sort of visual reference of porcelain or any similar type of materials being cut into by a weapon
That's not a thing that can happen IRL. Porcelain is wayy too rigid to be cut by anything like a sword and will just crack and shatter from the impact long before the blade can cut into it.
There's plenty of reference of porcelain shattering in slo-mo on youtube.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11gzn31BcsA
You'll notice that even with the slow motion, it shatters pretty much in an instant - IIRC that's because shockwaves travel at about 4 km per second in something that rigid.
If you want to cut something like ceramics or rock without shattering it you'll need a saw of some kind.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVHi8T1HusU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QB0CSpmPlH4
Note how much dust is released.

Hope this helps, anon, and good luck with your comic.

>>78572801
I thought it was her left arm that was only half there.

Where's the Sexyverse guy? I remember he was talking about doing massive amounts of one-cent PW advertising and getting pretty decent clickthroughs. I'm thinking of trying that for my comic.

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Ms Slate disapproves of pretty much everything.

>>78579633
What a relatable character.

>>78573261
Mimi thanks you for loving her adorable face.

I'm enjoying this Bembo side comic thing in Questionable Content way too much

>>78578926
I'll fix it.

>>78580745
Dewd, you shouldn't have to fix it. You should care at least enough to get major character design details right and keep them consistent. I don't like criticizing you because that's kind of a meme but holy shit Dewd, this is a serious issue. This is worse than all your other problems.

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>>78577761
Thanks man! Glad I could inspire you!

>>78577564
Dorkly? Like the humor site?

>>78575703
Posting superior .gif version

I finally have a somewhat solid and clear path to begin my story and visuals, what is a good original page format that I can use to create my canvas in Paint.sai with?

>>78569753

I need some help guys.

I'd like my pages to be, read like a normal comic page format, length longer than the width deal, I am using 3000x3850 in SAI atm.

Any suggestions, tips or page sizes?

>>78581602
My comic's pages are 2318x3857.

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>>78581602
>>78581602
I had the same question once, and while there's a lot of answers, here's the template that Image Comics uses for tehir print comics, scaled for 300 DPI (11 inches by 17 inches).

I thought 300 DPI was the industry standard when I made it, but lately I'm hearing about a lot of people working at 600 or even 900 dpi. If your computer can handle it, it can't hurt.

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WIP of the next page

>>78582677

Anon, try to be nice.

>>78582645
Did you fix the last page?

>>78577323
And what does one do about that?

Please cite examples.

>>78582706
Yes, yes I did.

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I want to take my comic to the next level and update regularly. Also working on a short story.

I'm using tumblr right now because it's easy, but what would you guys suggest? What's the best way to monetize this?

>>78577575
this kinda improvisation aint easy

I was wondering, if you want to write a chapter, or a short story, what tricks or tips do you use to get the creative juices flowing? I sometimes use things like plot savers, but the choices are pretty random at times.

http://shadow-creator.deviantart.com/art/Plot-Savers-365745109

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>>78583144
>1. Make one character find out that another is gay.

>>78583144
just look up tvtropes, try not to waste all day there

>>78580858
>you never take advice
>well taking advice isnt good enough, stop being dyslexic
some people are left-right blind dude. lots of people

>>78582989
To be honest, just stick to tumblr for now and slowly build up a fanbase. Once thats done chip in some money to get a website and after a month of traffic get ads.

Or patreon, if you want to do that.

>>78582989
>What's the best way to monetize this?
vidya memes

ads, merch and patreon if you mean money

>>78582932
Don't make that kind of mistake again, Dewd. It's so much worse than all of your other anatomy and spelling errors. If you let that page as it was originally get published, it would have shown your readers that you care so little about the comic that you can't even get major character design details right.

>>78583392
Hey man, it's alright, Mistakes happen. You don't need to get all defensive for me or whatever this is. also I got a comments section where my readers can tell me this stuff.

>>78583197

Tv tropes is fun, but like you said you can easily waste a lot of time on there. Any tips for when it comes to idea brainstorming?

>>78583543
Listen to music while you draw. It can help you shape a scene/nario and junk. Just find a fitting song to go with what you're drawing.

>>78582645
I feel like 10th panel might actually be funnier as a series of rebus images
either way though this is cute interaction

>>78583434
It shouldn't ever have to get to the point where it's on your site and your readers are telling you it's wrong. Just take your time and look at your own work with a critical eye.

>>78582918
line confidence takes practice. youve gotta start making big sweeping lines.. and that means ctrl-zing constantly
eventually I get sick of it and I frankenstein together lines I like. because I can't make good turns on this tablet. Not after years of practice

>>78583582
calm your tits, man. Everybody makes mistakes. You really think your shit don't stink?

>>78583582
just FYI, you're wrong.
You should know how to make correct criticisms of people without us having to correct you, dude. It should never get to the point of other anons having to tell you you're wrong. You're showing your fellow posters that you care so little about posting you can't even get your criticisms right.

>>78583607
>Everybody makes mistakes
Yes, and it's one of the primary goals of this thread for anons to help each other fix their mistakes, and Dewd made a really egregious mistake. Sorry that this isn't a private Skype chat where an artist's safe space is protected and "criticism" consists of nothing but compliments.
>You really think your shit don't stink?
I never said that.

>>78583619
now this is shitposting

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>>78583582
I get what you're trying to say anon, but you're coming off as really autistic.

>>78583709
It's "really autistic" to hold oneself to a high standard?

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>>78583709
No, but its autistic to keep on badgering on about the same criticism after the artist took it. Oh and
>hold onself to a high standard?
That, that just comes off as really snobby sounding.

>>78583872
I don't care if it sounds snobby, as a webcomic creator, you need to hold yourself to a standard higher than the audience holds you to, so you can strive to consistently exceed the expectations of your reader and constantly improve your work. That's how you ply any craft, be it art or cooking or anything in between.

>>78583925
Well I mean, yeah, its always good to try your best and junk, but you're forcing your philosophies on others man. How you think of comics and go about doing them is unique to you, don't tell others how to go about doing stuff, that's called being a dick.

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I actually did something. Hooray. Time for a nap.

>>78583806
correct others' mistakes as long as you aren't guilty of them yourself
you're trying to correct THAT HE MAKES MISTAKES. you're guilty of that guaranteed.
if you're sick of correcting the same mistakes, tell him that. i'm sick of correcting the same typos, i've asked him to write down a list

>>78584141
You have to be hard on Dewd. It's the only way he'll learn.

>>78583980
Yeah try to keep this space safe and friendly. Please no bully

>>78584388

Then he should be best artist in these threads because people were hard on him.

>>78584428
We're clearly not being hard enough.

>>78583668
>help each other fix mistakes

But you're not doing that. You're just being a huge bitch.

>>78583600
I like to think I'm fairly good at that. It's cleanup on the intersections where I think I need work.

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>>78584437

Are you fucking a critic? Say it!

You keep on arguing with other people instead of dewd.

>>78584588
Dewd isn't trying to argue with anyone, though.

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>>78577575
About time I caught you posting here, been having trouble with your animated gifs

>>78584437
we got a politician here

>>78584933
Dewd keeps escalating his mistakes, that means we have to keep escalating our criticism.

I never knew so many people cared about Angel.

>>78585023
I don't care about Angel. I care about you.

>>78585023
Angel a shit

SD all day

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>>78585034
Th-thanks.
>>78585060
Also the correct choice.

>>78585023
Dewd, Angel is the best. The Pollyanna is always the best character!

Right next to Sarah of course!

>>78584978
>outright lies
yep, politician

>>78585023
well she's become less of a Drawn Together tier joke and more of a real person

>>78585321
You know, that actually makes me really happy to hear and finally think about how much my writing has improved along with my art.

>>78585263
>not noticing that you've put the character's arm on the wrong side of their body even after the page it appears on has been "finished" is not an extremely terrible mistake

>>78585366
it's not an escalation. he's been doing that from the beginning, along with drawing the wrong hands or feet on the wrong sides. he's obviously got another learning disorder, and a relatively common one

>>78585479
Well if I learned anything from the eight hours I spent reading Dewd's comic from start to finish, its that if he has a disability, we should work with it!

>>78585505
It's no disability, I make those mistakes all the time. He's just not competent at all.

>>78585479
Don't make excuses for Dewd.

Anyone else love how this went from Webcomics General to Dewd General?

>>78585732
Would you rather the thread be dead?

>>78585732
I'm pretty sure the same thing happened last thread for a little while too.

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Finished this page!

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uh...

something, i drew up.

>>78586794
That's an interesting spatter effect you've got on the monster's head.
Brown kid's head is looking pretty bad though - see how the super thick line around the bottom is making his face look really gaunt and skeletal? Gotta watch them line weights.
But hey, you got rid of the white dots except for that one up in the top right corner.

>>78584071
I hope you had a nice relaxing nap, because there's a spelling mistake in panel 1: it should be "taxidermy".

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upcoming chapter art

>>78587338
Ok. I will fix it.

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>>78587222

At first, I tired to make him mouthless. And it was a huge mistake giving him a mouth.

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Here are the stats for my comic's first complete month without any advertising. We did about 2/3 of the traffic we did in November when we were advertising on several sites, which is way better than the traffic we were doing before we started advertising. By my estimation we have 2-3 times the reader base we had before the advertising started, possibly even more.

This month I'm going to do a lot of free advertising on low-view PW affiliates, see what that gives me. If I get even one click it'll be worth it because I'm not spending any money. Besides that I think I'll do some cheap PW advertising as well on more popular sites.

>>78587338
I saw that earlier but I didn't say anything because I thought it was intentional.

>>78587392
that shading is darling. from the thumbnail it looked like a soft fuzzy yoshi's story cutscene

>>78584630
I think a tumblr update just happened to have ruined everything and i don't know how to mitigate how ruined everything is

>>78588097
It was but I don't expect people to get it so I'll just change it.

>>78588407
...I got it...

>>78588407
So wait, whats the reference? Also you should keep it regardless so people like >>78588619
who got it can enjoy it!

>>78588730
Not a direct reference to anything. It's just that it's a crappy old store with weird crap and an owner that doesn't give a damn.

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Guys. I learn something from art.

Did you know that drawing a "peach" can make a perfect ass/boobs? Why didn't nobody tell me about this!

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>>78588910
I don't see it.

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>>78588910
you didn't know that? did you never play Okami?
>>78588993
only works with asian peaches

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>>78579633

>>78579680
Resting Bitch Face is a serious condition, anon.

>>78589279
Perfect boobs = two balloons
Perfect ass = Asian peach
Perfect body = uh...Disney?

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>>78589433
they say 'hourglass' but for me it's more like 'ergonomic mouse'
anyway, balloon tits? no thank you.

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>>78589433
Nah see the booby is also peach

>>78588232
what was mae doing last time? did she go down the left staircase or we further on?

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>>78589511

Now, I wonder what is the perfect face/expressions?

My favorite face is always dotted eyes. Or this >>78584071

>>78589713
the perfect face is a pentagon!
for other features, any eyes are lovely as long as they have some nice roundness to them, and noses are best as small triangles.

>>78589511
IIRC the studies show that an 0.7 waist-hip ratio is the most popular overall.
Also that the butt should stick out at a 45 degree angle.

Of course this is all pretty academic to comic artists, since it's unlikely these stats are the same when it comes to more or less stylized art and we should probably play to our strengths and draw what we like best ourselves anyway.
But it's interesting.

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>>78569893

>Thread activity: draw a picture that describes your comic's 2015 using your comic's characters

2015 year in review.

I just realized why it's so hard to draw interlocked fingers
they form a CURVE. that's the only way they can fit

>>78590643
just like drawing a fist yo

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Should annabeth be more annabuff?

>>78590703

No.

>>78590703
Only if you decide to 100% commit to xie being a guy.

>>78590951
I think I will hold back... for now...

>>78590677
naw man a fist makes a nice boxy shape, the fingers all line up into a relatively flat plane, with more nearly flat angles at nearly 90 degree angles
but fingers all intertwined.. that makes almost a quarter-circle!

>>78590703
i dont think so. lankybeth is the way to go. the lankier the better.

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>>78591032
Yeah, your probably right.

>>78591276
Dewd, frontal nudity of women is NSFW.

>>78591326
I don't see a girl, only the manliest man in the series.

>>78591411
So you are 100% going on record that Annabeth is canon a guy, now and forever?

>>78591428
We'll see~

>>78591568
Commit to it right now you sneaky motherfucker.

>>78591688
Annabeth is a demiboy nonbinary fluidgender

xe/xis/xim pronouns please

>>78591907
snert

or as i like to put it "it's brown, it's skinny, and it's short"

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>>78591907

Just... stop... there...., I am gonna lose all respect for you if you seriously do that... lol...

>>78591907
please no

>>78592022
That's not the real Dewd, anon.

>>78591907
I don't even know what demi boy means, ha ha.

Well he is half something else that's for sure if that tail is any evidence.

>>78592020
That's the correct awnser.
>>78592105
>>78592022
Don't worry anons, i'm THE dewd.

>>78592022
eez joke

>>78592168
What does SD stand for? Small Dick or Schlong Deity?

>>78592514
is he not scooby-doo?

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>>78588232
might be the frames being too fast or something, since other gifs seem to be doing fine

Hope you saved all of the panels you did You still have that one you animated but forgot the wings, right?

>>78592514
I don't know yet. It might just stay sd.

We'll see~

>>78588232
everything looks fine to me

bamp

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NEW YEAR'S RESOLUTION FOR YOUR WEBCOMICS

GO

>>78594620
Honestly? ... Probably get pretty close to finishing.

>>78594620
To actually follow through and get it up and running. It's only looking half good so far.

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>>78594620

Making a short story about her.

>>78594620
Consider making a crappy webcomic ... I guess?

>>78594620
Make money.

>>78594620
Is your new years resolution to undelete your Patreon?

>>78594878

Oh it's not deleted, I changed the name from "sexyverse" to "sexyversecomics" for consistency.

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>>78594878

LOL!!!!

>>78594620
git gud

>>78594620

To actually post my shit and work on it, have all my ducks lined up now.

>>78594844
oh that's a cutie

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I see a lot ambition in these posts. I'm pleased.

Aim high and never settle for less. Even if you never achieve it, the very drive to become better will do you more good than you can ever imagine. And who knows, you might make it big.

Only one way to find out...

>>78583600
and that means ctrl-zing constantly
No, it means putting it in your head that there is no ctrl+z, and the idea that whatever line you put down next, is there forever.

We're taking technology for granted this way. It may well be making us weaker, and I cite your post as proof of it.

>>78595558
um.. even people in physical media do sketches where they do multiple lines in pencil and even erase some, before choosing only the best one to confirm using ink

>>78595558
>people shouldn't ctrl-z

You know they're not real artists unless they're drawing mastodons on cave walls with charcoal sticks.

>>78594620
Have characters be in a loving relationship.

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I hope I can actually sleep tonight. Good night hywc.

>>78596096
goodnight

>>78595615
Yes.

And you think inking is just a matter of staring at that pencil line hard enough

It's in the mind and the wrist.

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>>78596096
>sleep

I'll keep warm and pull an all-nighter. G'night.

>>78596239
wh..what?

>>78596096
What kind of bed does Mimi sleep in?

>>78596616
a big elegant four-poster, pretty sure. possibly with curtains

>>78596616
A regular one. It is covered in stuffed animals. It will be in a comic soon.


I got stuck washing dishes. Of course.

>>78596674
Could it be a Mimi sleepover comic?

>>78596734
She has roomates. Technically every night is a sleepover.

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WIP of the next page!

>>78597247
reverse psychology is always good

>>78572801
>>78586491
>>78597247
>Dewd just posted three pages in one thread.

You are really fast.

>>78597423
strewth. i hesitate to say it but a little slowdown time for proofreading and errorchecking in the sketch phase is, let's say, something you can afford, my good dewd.

then again nunc is also uploading at a fantastic rate, but since each comic has only a few panels, I'm okay with that

>>78597325
Yeah, but who's really playing who?
>>78597423
I'm kinda trying really hard because my buffer is SUPER low.

>>78597423
I could do the same, but I tend to choose not to. Why blow all my load here when I could make you go to my page and give me money?

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>>78597525
>Why blow all my load here when I could make you go to my page and give me money?

MAH BOI

DEWD TOTALLY INVITE YOUR SISTER TO THESE THREADS

SHE CAN DRAW

Hi everyone! Haven't posted here in a while but the new page of Jello and Pup is out!
http://www.freakanimes.com/sugarandmemories/

>>78597841
At least someone in the family can

ba dum tss

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>>78598073
>Sugar return.

I miss you...And your beautiful comics.

No homo.

>>78597841
She has been here before. she posted us some of her comic
it's good!

>>78598233
>>78598073
oh
and there she is

>>78598255
I'm right next to her, Can confirm she didn't do it.

I also can confirm she's just making one piece fanart.

Please make more Jello and Pup sis.

Thanks everyone, I'll try to be more on top of Jello and Pup.

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>start a webcomic, can't get any traction, after 2 years and 0 readers just shelf it

>start another webcomic, but it's a gamer comic with cheap predictable jokes and easy-to-hashtag references, get 50 regular readers after a year

I don't feel great about myself, but getting that occasional tumblr response that shows I made someone smile kind of makes it worth it.

We need a parody HYW image for our april fools thread. I'm thinking
>over 20 pounds of pictures and text!

>>78598520
yeah that'll fucking happen

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the gatling typewriter was invented when fast typists caused the ribbons on single-barrel typewriters to overheat

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>>78595093
Really?

I thought nobody will like her. I trying to think up a name for her.

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Finished this page!

>>78599868
She looks like a Posie to me

>>78599190

>Purple Nurplus

I don't know why I find this so funny.

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>>78600329

Ikr, he's got some good ass humor quite a bit.

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I think I found an easy style for that slice of life comic I'm thinking of starting.

>>78600329
I knew/hoped someone would appreciate that
>>78600386
sometimes you just gotta let your brain flow with words. Homestar taught me that.

>>78600430
definitely charming. If you practice a bit more and get your anatomy really up to snuff, this will actually serve you quite well. In particular watch out for those arm lengths. Anytime you're not sure, ask yourself if the guy could comfortably masturbate without looking like a toddler awkwardly reaching into his pants (limbs are shorter at that age)

>>78600438

It is very Homestar-esque, now that you mention it. That's actually what I thought of when I saw the "Welcome, Matt!"

>>78600430

I like it

>>78600452
Thanks. And I'll keep that in mind. I usually don't have too much trouble with anatomy, but I can always be better.

I think once I get used to drawing in this style proportions will start to improve.

>>78600469
I'm glad you like it.

>>78600469
Yeah that one was.. that was a clusterfuck of meta, because I had previously referenced the monster maskus (it was just the placeholder I had in my head so I went 'fuckit, use that'), THEN went ahead and pointed it out because I realized it was odd for her to just have a mask and just explaining it was all I could think of, THEN the 'welcome, matt' coming to mind automatically.. as did 'weclome', being another homestarism.. and so fuckit I am saying that mat is talking to Matt Chapman and thanking him for the influence

for something I do because I can do it without thinking, I do end up thinking a lot. But I only think about how much thinking I did when someone brings it up, which is why these threads are amazing and great

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>>78599190
>ketchup packets
God dammit how are you so good at these nonsense words I manage to laugh at.

Bumparoo.

>>78594620
-Improve art
-Make more money
-Publish other works
-Become Internet Famous

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New page! What do you guys think?

>>78594620
- Quit going on /co/
- Publish more pages a week
- Get better at composition

>>78604007
>Quit going on /co/
Why do people make resolutions they're never going to keep?

>>78603733
Great as usual. The arm in the third panel looks like a pair of tits, one hanging out, and I don't mind at all.

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Does this panel sequence read properly? I'm mostly interested if you could somehow get the order of reading wrong.

>>78604530
You're entering Dresden Codak territory with that one, in my opinion.

>>78604542
Please explain, I haven't even read the threads about it, let alone the comic itself. I only heard it was a clusterfuck at times, is that what you're implying?

>>78604542
No.

Shut up.

>>78604616
It's not really really awful like DC is most of the time but the reader will naturally try to read panel 3 and then panel 6, moving left to right like they did with panels 1 and 2, rather than go down to panel 4 like you want them to.

>>78604530
My concern is that the action in panel 3 is going to the left, out of the page, instead of leading on to the next panel.

Similarly in panel 4, her attention is directed to the upper left corner, but the next panel is in the lower right.

The trick to comic panel composition is to subtly guide the reader through the page, directing them panel to panel through the actual panel images themselves.

>>78603733
I like miss melee's hair.

>>78604784
Image poster here. Is this really important?

To give some context, I never paid attention to the flow and I've been reading comics (well, manga mostly) for many years. I paid attention to the layout which assures the correct reading sequence, the space given to each panel as an indication of importance, the space between speech bubbles as an indication of time passing between each spoken part. The flow as you describe it? Never. I do see it mentioned often when advice is given either in these threads and on certain other board though. Guide the eyes of the reader, make them flow, pardon me if I got it wrong.

This brings me to another point. Let's forget my sketch and layout for a moment and discuss things in general. Is it worth to alter what you have in mind and what you want to show for the sake of the flow? I can see it as a crutch in a similar shape to the ones in modern video games, where you have buttons to highlight plot-relevant elements of scenery, exclamation marks showing you where to go and so on. Sure, they make playing easier, but is it always worth it? Should a comic be treated in a more fluid way, closer to animation, or rather as a collection of important, more standalone images, closer to book illustrations? I see the general advice pointing towards the former often but wouldn't it feel awful to sacrifice the impact for the flow?

>>78605178
If you have to actively think about the layout when reading a comic, the flow is poor which takes the reader out of the comic. You aren't actively supposed to think about the flow either. You follow it without thinking about it. This helps with immersion.

Look, if you just want to make a comic but don't care about it being good, than just keep doing what your doing.

>>78605178
>Image poster here. Is this really important?
yes

>Is it worth to alter what you have in mind and what you want to show for the sake of the flow?
yes

> I see the general advice pointing towards the former often but wouldn't it feel awful to sacrifice the impact for the flow?
You're not getting the point. Flow is probably one of the most important aspects of a visual narrative. People say (the original) Onepunch Man (you should be familar with as a manga reader) is badly drawn, but they often forget that it flows really well and has great panelling. Ideally the flow you create MAKES the impact. Don't get me wrong, but it just seems you look for reasons to not redraw your sketches. You talk about a comic being closer to animation and more fluid - this is a good way for looking at it, yet you have to know what to cut. We don't need every small movement captured in the picture - that's not the point. But we want to have a sense of movement going through the page and action sequences that make sense. I know some animators personally and their comics read really well, because they know how to make a scene dynamic, yet also have a good flow.

>Guide the eyes of the reader, make them flow, pardon me if I got it wrong.
I think you got it right, but I also think you don't quite get the importance of it. You want to create the illusion of movement. If you shit on flow, your comic will lose it's impact, and, most importantly - it will be hard to read. The easier a comic is to read, the better.

>>78605178
>Is this really important?
Yes.
Sometimes.
For example if you want to do a reading pattern that's more complicated than just "go right until you hit the edge of the page". For instance, there are a number of things you could do on your page to make it harder for the reader to go straight from panel 3 to panel 6, like adding a downwards motion in panel 3, separating the two panels with a wider gutter, having the girl's arm cross over to panel 4 etc. On the other hand, I don't think having the girl's gaze on the upper left in panel 4 is a big problem, because the reader's not going to reverse direction and read the previous panel again. It will slow the sequence down, which might be bad if you want it to feel fast, but it won't ruin it or bring the reader out of it.

>I see the general advice pointing towards the former often but wouldn't it feel awful to sacrifice the impact for the flow?
There's no objective hierarchy. Ideally you want to have your cake and eat it too (this is where creativity comes in), but sometimes flow is more important, sometimes impact is more important.
Interrupting an established pattern can increase the impact of a panel. Sometimes having something lack impact is exactly the point you're trying to make.

>>78605423
Hey, no need to get so defensive. And please let's not get my page draft into this, I'm already trying to change the layout. I just want to talk about this problem in general, it's interesting.

I'm wondering why the flow of all things is important to immersion, rather than the characters, setting or the story. Or maybe it's not "rather than" but "along with"? I can imagine the comic being hard to read if panels are completely out of whack, sure, but I can't really agree on it being a principle when designing whole pages.

My reasoning is that the comic as a medium was conceived as an extension of picture books. You lose narration but get to actually draw each scene, provide an image of what's happening. What about connections between each image, each panel then? I'd say it depends on the context. Action, for example, could use some flow to get the feeling of fluid movement (though I imagine even that can be foregone if you have an awesome still in mind). On the other hand, if action stops and or slows down severely, wouldn't breaking down the flow be actually a good thing? You know, to get the feeling of a pause or maybe even for indicating that more time passed between these panels than between previous ones. This is all very subtle though, and would be probably lost on me if I were the reader, ha ha.

Actually I'm going to take a look at some comics I have later today and see how the flow feels there, just to compare our ideas.

>>78605788
>I'm wondering why the flow of all things is important to immersion, rather than the characters, setting or the story
They're all important. The flow is what lets the reader get immersed in the characters, setting and story, by making it easier for them to see all those things in the proper order they're meant to be seen. If a reader has to work to read the comic, they aren't going to spend as much time getting invested in anything.

>>78594620
To start a webcomic.
I have a clear, simple idea fleshed out, but it's all in my head, and I haven't drawn anything seriously in years now. Basically it's gonna be idea a start from scratch, but by the end of the year my goal is to have it setup and start making updates, probably one page a week. It's gonna be tough, but I've been delaying this for too long already.

>>78605503
>Don't get me wrong, but it just seems you look for reasons to not redraw your sketches.
Not at all! I just seem to have a different opinion about this than you guys but I haven't paid much attention to the problem before, so I'd rather talk things out to understand your point of view better.

To not quote your whole post, I can see where you're coming from. You mentioned animators' comics, mind pointing me to some? It'd be a great reference material.

>>78605772
Yeah, that layout is already gone save for panels 1 and 2. It's actually quite a lot of work to design a page keeping all those things in mind, huh.

>>78606017
Well, one of the more known animators I know that also do comics would be Zeurel. The other ones I'd rather keep quiet about, to not reveal my identity. So just look him up on DA or something to see some of his comics.

>>78605967
Get that idea out of your head and written down ASAP. You will innovate and expand upon the idea even further than you think once you start writing it down.

Also, having something physical like that will help you push forward to actually get it done.

>>78606225
Thanks, I'll do that.

>>78606260
I plan on doing that tomorrow, I don't have enough time today. It should help me flesh out things and be clearer with setting some limits, cause my imagination is running wild when I think about it. I want to take a few hours for that, unfortunately today the time I require just isn't there.

>>78601654
aaactually that one's from rewatching tom goes to the mayor lately. i had 'crickets' on the mind, which mutated into 'crackets' as coach z said, and then.. yeah. rhyme.

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two page update. the actual fighting begins.

http://LuckyHazard.the-comic.org/

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Page two in progress, first real attempt at speech bubbles and text.

Size seems right, but was bigger than I expected. Really weird covering the artwork with it, even when I thought I'd written a relatively small amount of text.

Anyone have thoughts/advice on text?

Also, characters introduced!

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>>78608170

Nobody is going to remember this from however long ago it was when it was posted (early days, slow start for me and the penciller), so here's the first page (mostly finished, panels need jittering about a bit).

Peaceoneers is a Thunderbirds style affair, very team-driven and retro goofy action.

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>>78607643

That's a damn good start.

>>78608170
>Really weird covering the artwork with it
You'll get used to it. It'll crush your soul sometimes, but you'll get used to it.

>>78608170
Your supposed to build the artwork around the text not make the art first than cover it in text. If you don't plan the art around the speech bubbles you'll just end up having weird placement or not enough space.

>>78608528

True. It's a two person team on these pages, with me on script and colours then buddy on pencils.

We're still figuring out how to communicate things like that, and finding out what works.

Neither of us have done a comic before, really, and I've been away with work for most of his drawing time.

How natural/awkward did it end up, do you think?

>>78608685
It's not bad. As a reader I don't see any problems with it, but then again I've never seen the page without text. I mean, if it were really bad I would definitely be able to tell, but as it is it works just fine.

>>78608250
das a nice a splode there

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>>78608774

Thanks, I don't think it's unreadable level bad, but what you're saying about making sure the art makes allowances or works with the lettering is something I need to work on for sure, and it could definitely be better here.

I might ask penciller-buddy to leave marks where he imagined the text going - which will be much easier now we've got a rough idea of letter sizing.

Appreciate the feedback, ta.

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Just updated with a new page spread. Hope you guys like it!

http://www.beatwarriorcomic.com

>>78608286
thanks!!

>>78609056
cooool

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>>78608909

Yeah, penciller went above and beyond there.

Really fun to colour, too, especially messing with the line colours and trying to make use gradients without looking too digital. I'm even more new to colouring than am I to writing comics, and getting to experiment with a nice panel like that was a blast.


Picture has some concepty stuff, like team uniforms, villains, one of their vehicles. Messy stuff is mine, uniforms are penciller, then got another guy doing vehicle design.

>>78608685
It's not unreadable but stuff like the text balloons having to constantly pop out of the panels is something that could have been prevented. Also, why are you using the meme font for the titles?

Get in here.

https://discordapp.com/invite/0ckxsOeUFTo4GFjX

Join us! We wuz webcomic chat n shiiieeeet.

>>78608992
>>78609056
You you! Yes you. Join us.

>>78609261
Are those just the colors of the uniforms or are they actually all the same shape?

>>78608992
Readers tend to critically analyze the comic a whole lot less than most creators do. What you think isn't good, a reader is likely to not even notice. The reader also doesn't know the behind-the-scenes story behind each page so things will escape their notice that you can't forget.

>>78609398

Shit, it totally is meme font. Impact? Fuck me for not catching that.

Yeah, I'll change that, it'll only distract otherwise.

>>78609419

Just colours, they aren't all identical body-types. That was a concept thing we did before the people themselves were drawn out.

>>78603733
I love your art and anatomy and flow- the characters are all great!

I do think that sometimes the camera stays in a little close to the faces- and overall the camera stays at a very consistent length away.

I'd love it if the camera pulled away more, or just had a little more diversity in the closeness of the characters to the viewer.

(but really excellent work!)

>>78600133
maybe a Josie

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It's been a while. New pages up.

http://skylightcomic.net

>>78611451
Good to see you're still alive. I said it the last time too, but I'm getting a strong Gunnm/Alita vibes from this part of your story.

>>78611451

The chat over here is lively

You should come back

>>78612714
Gunnm is my favorite manga so that's cool to hear!

>>78612776
I like the chat but I spend waaaaay too much time on the computer if I start chatting. I'm a MASSIVE procrastinator so it's for the better. I rarely visit /co/ either at this point if I'm not posting drawings.

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>>78612923

Just drop in... for a second...

One of my biggest problems atm is making everything way too over complex visual wise, and it's taking forever and killing me... =3=

>>78613330
It happens. I make a conscious effort when I write scripts to not overload each page with visually complex scenes so my artist can draw them faster.

>>78596096
Hey Mimi, are you part of the chatroom? You should come join us!

https://discordapp.com/channels/111912780377985024/111912780377985024

>>78613657
If she joins the chatroom we're liable to run her out of the thread altogether.

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Posting this for no reason.

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What do you think, /co/?
Am I skilled enough to go into webcomics?

(This is just the sketch/layout; feedback is nonetheless very welcome)

>>78613930

I literally thought at first, that that said, "A Patreon once asked me", lol.

>>78613930
Is that supposed to be a person in the... uh.. 3rd panel?

>>78613930
Webcomics don't exactly have very high technical requirements, so you'd probably be fine even if your pages never passed this loose and sketchy stage.
How's your script? What kind of schedule are you aiming for? How much buffer do you plan to have before you start uploading?

>>78614165
Second down on the left side? Yeah. Sleeping old woman. There's going to be heavy shadowing in the scene so I wanted to make sure to mark off where her eyeholes were.

>>78614197
Haven't gotten that far in planning to have answers for all those. I'm pulling this story from a pre-existing story I wrote a while ago; it'll be an expansion and semi-continuation of Ouroboros: The Sacrifice's plotlines. Not sure what my schedule would be like. Maybe a page every two weeks? I'd probably wait until I had 6 before I started; feels like I'd want a month or so of space in case I have medical problems and whatnot.

>>78614197
Also, what size do you work at? With the way monitor sizes and screen resolution is going, 600x900 might be a little on the small side for uploading.

>>78614290
Somewhere in the neighborhood of 5000x7000px I think?

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I like Project Wonderful. 0.07 cents per unique click!

>>78613657
>https://discordapp.com/channels/111912780377985024/111912780377985024

I actually tried to, but I cant get it to work at all.

>>78613700
I've had my art and looks mocked on cgl.

I don't think you guys could do anything to me.

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Let's just hope Matt Groening won't sue me. Or Walmart. Or Doritos. Goddamn.

>>78614391
Well, 0.66666666666... cents per click.

would cheaply made storyboards be allowed here?

>>78614867
Nope, that leads to an instant permaban.

>>78614288
Two weeks per page seems like a pretty reasonable starting plan if you're gonna go all out on the artwork. The comic's progression is gonna feel tortuously slow, though, both for the readers and for you (That's almost an entire year to make a 22-page chapter, y'know?), so you'll probably want to make it a priority to get it down to at least once a week once you settle into the groove of things a bit.

>>78614368
Oh okay that should be fine.

>>78614932
okay then

>>78614951
Hm. Maybe a color page for page one and black and white for the rest of the chapter? Could shave off a lot of time. How fast do people like chapters to come out?

>>78615208
>How fast do people like chapters to come out?
As fast as they can get it. If I could update my comic more than once per week I would. I'd update it every day if possible. But for you, the artist, it's all about how quickly you can work without sacrificing quality.

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did this as a side thing real quick. Doesn't really fit in the narrative, but thought it was OK anyway.

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>>78615343
2/2

>>78615359
>>78615343
I like it.

>>78588993
MOAR

>>78615208
People want all the pages RIGHT NOW.
But on the other hand, nobody reading through the archives is gonna care whether you spent three days or two weeks on any particular page, only how much they like the finished result.
Personally, I vastly prefer full color to B/W.

I know I've improved my speed and efficiency at full color pages a lot from just toughing out those early pages that each took two weeks and had me clawing at the walls, and I'm not sure if you can learn that kind of stuff without doing all the slow awkward pages.

>>78615359
Well at least she can console herself that she got dat tail.

do everybody here just create their own pannels when creating these comics
or do you all just use templates that you find either online or what your art program gives you?

>>78615343
What's going on in that last panel?

>>78615702
It's an image from earlier in the comic, where Lt. Walsh drew a cheesecake girl on the nose of his spaceship, a la WWII nose art. Hazel's misinterpreting it as what Walsh personally desires.

>>78615343
You'd better delete this before a mod sees it.