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Star Wars Rebels

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BRAVO DISNEY edition

>Upcoming Releases:
http://www.swbooks.co.uk/updates/release.htm

>Newest Rebels Recon Episode:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-AIH28G2YRo

>The Clone Wars Legacy Content:
http://www.starwars.com/tv-shows/the-clone-wars-legacy

>Star Wars: Uprising: (/swr/ Cartel: Loth-Cats)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpW6fOEvuSg

http://community.kabam.com/forums/showthread.php?568108-Newx-s-New-Player-Guide

>Star Wars: Commander: (/swr/ Squad: Empire - SheevSquad)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUD2JkBxIJo

>Canon Guide: (Timeline coming soon)
http://imgur.com/a/wnoIs

>Star Wars /co/ Booru:
starwars.booru.org

>Download links: (Books, Comics, Rebels, Films, etc)
http://pastebin.com/nWsKtSya
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Are lightsabers supposed to canonically look like the ones in Rebels? I know the original art had them as actual sabers, but the movies had them as glowing sticks because of technical limitations at the time.

Which is the true portrayal?
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>>78364337
>pre-ordering Kylo Ren

Aren't you embarrassed?
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>>78364361
I feel like this is a reference to something
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>>78364315
I know people aren't going to agree with me here, but we're SUPPOSED to hate those cyborg fuckers. It's the Vader comic, he is the protagonist. When he says "This is BLASPHEMOUS!", that's what we as the audience are supposed to think too.

Then we cheer when Vader guts him like the fish he is.
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C.R.E.A.M.
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>>78364377
Moonbeam City
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>>78364367
>Are lightsabers supposed to canonically look like the ones in Rebels?

No, it's Rebels trying to make the entirety of it's visual appeal based on McQuarrie's original art.
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>phasma rule 34
>0 pics
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>>78364371
Nope.

I'd hang myself if I were a Phasmafag, though.
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>>78364393
But still, why didn't the original trilogy have them as actual sabers? Technical limitations right?
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>>78364367

Rebels has been the only thing trying to push the thin blade light saber. TFA has standard light sabers, except for Kylo Rens.
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>>78364425
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>>78364425
>pre-ordering a figure of a character from a movie you haven't seen yet

This is why you people are garbage.
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>>78364475
Wizard
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>>78364371
Not him, but I'd buy one along with a Vader just to have Vader posed refined and commandingly, with Ben right next to him posed to convey him completely nerding out.
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>>78364425
>>78364475
>not using the same fonts as the original
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>>78364493
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>>78364299
He doesn't cry to Vader's helmet. He is asking for his help, like some religious fanatic. How could anyone interpret that as "crying"?

I think the only problem people have with Kylo is that he's not the classic badass Star Wars villain, but insecure and... more like an actual human. I mean contrast him with Darth Maul who looks cool but didn't have any personality or an own character arc. People still loved him, just for looking cool. Same with Boba Fett, Grievous etc...
Kylo is great because he's more realistic. You can sympathize with him and hate him at the same time. Also, his actor is fucking based.
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>>78364491
>>78364491
Stop defending this shit.
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>Went to /tv/ for the first time in months
>Won't be going back to /tv/

Never discussing starwars there again. There was literally people saying the prequels was good because the main cast was all white.
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Soundtracks upload is at 91%. 59 tracks left.

By the way, there are three tracks that had trouble when initially uploading and were temporarily skipped, but won't upload until the others do because of how MEGA's uploading works. So if you've downloaded any of the soundtracks yet, make sure to check back when the upload is complete to grab them.

They're

07 - The Falcon from the TFA Soundtrack

Star Wars And The Revenge of the Sith from the RotS soundtrack

1-30 Under Arrest from the Extended Edition RotS soundtrack

23 - Darth Sidious and Darth Maul from the TPM Ultimate Edition Soundtrack
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>>78364312
>Don't forget all the tantrums he throws.
The tantrum scenes were great
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>>78364533
Dude seemed pretty bad ass stopping a blaster mid shot and taking a bowcaster to the ribs.
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>>78364553

Going to /tv/ to talk about movies is like going to /mu/ to talk about music.

Never go there unless you want to despise everything you like about either.
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So how "official" is the novelization? Is it based on a script draft? Because it answers a lot of things people have been wondering lately.

>Rey appears to reciprocate Finn's feelings, but also meets Poe and displays some attraction to him.

>Finn has channeling the Force during his duel with Kylo.

>Phasma survives.

>Kylo knows Darth Vader turned to the Light in his final moments and killed the Emperor, but Snoke has manipulated him into believing that was a shameful lapse of judgement on Vader's part.
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>>78364063
Guess if you're building a terror weapon you take the time and effort to engineer it so everyone can watch the effect. Makes sense.

Still comes off as cheap directing. JJ did the same thing with Old Spoke in Nu Trek watching Vulcan explode as if he were orbiting it. He wants the impact explicit even if it shouldn't be possible.
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>>78364550
But he's not crying anon.

He's not whining or anything either. If anything he's treating the helmet like it's fucking Jesus
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>>78364361

>dat Nelvaanian qt
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>>78364589
Taking that bowcaster blast was bullshit. It had explosive bolts when Han fired it.
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>>78364601
>>Rey appears to reciprocate Finn's feelings, but also meets Poe and displays some attraction to him.
Threesome end is best end.
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>>78364553
>Going to /tv/ to talk about movies
No
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>>78364601
>Finn has channeling the Force during his duel with Kylo.

Would you guys like or hate if everyone in the universe had the Force inside them and had potential that just went untapped
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>>78364600
>Going to /tv/ to talk about movies is like going to /mu/ to talk about music.

And going to /co/ to talk about comics and cartoons.
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>>78364601
Movie adaptations are pretty much the only thing on a "lower tier" of canon. It's like old school EU rules, they're canon until contradicted.

But it's honestly just a subtle way of saying "not canon, just watch the fucking movie"

However I can say that it's already confirmed that Phasma survives, so that holds true.
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>>78364649
Isn't that pretty much how Yoda said it works?
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>>78364601
About the same as any other novelization that adds more details
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>>78364400
Not much to base off since we don't know how she looks, for all we know she could be a droid
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>>78364601
The TFA Novelization is canon where it's not contradicted by the movie. Omission also =/= contradiction.

The previous 6 novelizations are noncanon, though.
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>>78364649
Everyone does have the force, it's how Jedi can sense none Jedi like Lea did when Han died. Jedi are just people who have more of it.
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>>78364601
>Finn has channeling the Force during his duel with Kylo.
Well that answers that question

>>78364631
Maybe that just shows how fucking legit Kylo is?

>>78364649
Isn't that the point of the Force? Everybody has it but only some are sensitive to it.
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>>78364654
Abrams also confirmed that the bit about Vader's redemption is true, too.

Honestly, I do believe Rey/Finn/Poe triangle will happen and Finn will have Force-sensitivity to a certain degree, it just feels Abrams' decided to leave that stuff unspoken, in the backburner, and leave it to Johnson to explore it based on audience feedback.
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>>78364649
>>78364678
>We'll use the force!
>That's not how it works!

>Han's force ghost face when that's how it works
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>>78364631

Blaster bolts have always been inconsistent. They can be as powerful as being able to destroy small starships and as weak as being able to take one in the shoulder and shrug it off.
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>>78364601
https://twitter.com/pablohidalgo/status/678840833932550144
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Every Star Wars movie has one stand out song on the soundtrack.

>A New Hope: Either the main theme or the Force theme.
>Empire Strikes Back: Imperial March
>Return of the Jedi: Battle of Endor
>Phantom Menace: Duel of the Fates
>Attack of the Clones: Love theme
>Revenge of the Sith: Anakin vs. Obi-Wan
>The Force Awakens: March of the Resistance

Agree/disagree?
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>>78364743
I really want to ask Pablo something, but I'm too much of a bitch to do it.
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>>78364732
Star Wars works on Battlefront logic. Hero class characters are unstoppable.
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So when's rebels coming back again?
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>>78364790
next year
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>>78364767
I can name multiple stand-out tracks from 1-6, and nothing from TFA sadly. TFA's music just seems so... Meh.

That being said, I have only seen TFA once, so...
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>>78364803
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ueqKtype7Kk
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>>78364790

The Stormtroopers were amazing in this film. It felt like there were actual people underneath the armour and not just blank robots that are awful at their jobs.
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Can I get a "You will stop" edit of this?

Or anything else that fits?
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>>78364386
I think everyone understands that except one retard yesterday understands that, theyre all try hard wannabes
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>>78364767
March of the Resistance is good, but Torn Apart and Rey's Theme feel more iconic to me. The motif/overture throughout the score that is clearly meant to be Kylo Ren's theme (despite no specific piece called that) is fucking amazing and gets my vote though.
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Grabbed KOTOR on Steam sale, any rec'd mods?
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>>78364767
All the films have several stand out tracks.

TFA's main stand out track is Rey's Theme, buut there's plenty of other memorable ones too.

>>78364803
Give the soundtrack a listen once everything is uploaded to the MEGA in a few hours. All of TFA except for Track 7 should be uploaded. I'm also gonna upload the "For Your Consideration" soundtrack they released yesterday.
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>>78364767

Everything from TFA is waaaaaaay lower than the other six movies but if anything I'd give it to Torn Apart. Rey's theme starts out good but kinda loses it in a bland orchestrated mess in the middle.
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>>78364826
>Wiping the bloody hand on Finn's face
>PURGE WITH FIRE
>"TRAITOR"
>Walk in the other direction from Ren

Yup

>>78364803
The one where we first see Rey kicks ass.

I didn't feel it the first time but the one that plays during the final fight against Ren is great too.
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Where. Is. The. Exit. Wound?

How did this pass quality control?
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How hype would you be if Duel of the Fates ever made a return in a future SW movie?
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>>78364790
I love whiny tantrum villains

the inevitable "plans all gone to shit" outbursts are fantastic
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>>78364790
All we know is January.
>>78364826
Probably one of my favorite parts was making the imperial army not just more of a character but also a more threatening presence.
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>>78364980

My favorite part is that he had a gun and threw it. Like it's legitimately a personal vendetta and he wanted to inflict pain on Finn.
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>>78364767
>Attack of the Clones: Love theme

Goddamn the score to Attack of the Clones is beautiful. Some of Williams' best work.
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>>78364969
There was nothing whiny about him. It's just that unlike Vader, while consumed with rage, he can't bring himself to kill the people serving under him so he just smashes shit instead.
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>>78364957
>implying Dark Horse's comic adaptions of the films had any sort of "quality control" when they were being made
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>>78365022
Finn is a traitor after all.
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>>78365022
It's the small touches that made me enjoy the movie even more.
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Rey defeating Kylo just doesn't make sense.
Trusting in the force doesn't work like that.

If Luke decided to run up and fight Vader after watching Obi-Wan die, would trusting in the force have allowed him to beat Vader?
No, because it doesn't work like that.

>tfw my casual friends enjoyed the movie
>tfw I didn't
Help me learn to like the movie guys. There were no parts I liked/loved other than hearing the screaming younglings from episode 3 when Rey was searching Maz's place.
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>>78364980

Feels weird seeing a lightsaber used like that. I like it.
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>>78365022
The First Order are indoctrinated and raised like a cult, as if they are family. Finn turning on them and killing so many of them, I am sure some of the hardcore FO Troopers did feel it was a personal betrayal.
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>>78365076

No but remember that the bowcaster was launching people with explosive force when it hit. Kylo took one of those to the gut.

He's also very much in the same position as Vader was as in he has some kind of attachment to Rey and is holding back because he doesn't want to kill her.
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>>78364619
Oh Jesus Christ, he's talking to it like he's fucking Hamlet.
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>>78364550
He worships Vader before he betrayed the Emperor.
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>>78364826
>>78364980
>>78365022

Why is he so perfect?

https://my.mixtape.moe/dhobtx.webm
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>>78364584
You're out of your fucking mind. They completely ruined any sense of tension.
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>>78365076
>Rey defeating Kylo just doesn't make sense.

He took a bowcaster bolt to the gut, and Finn got in one his against his sword arm.

>Trusting in the force doesn't work like that.

That's exactly the way the force works.

>Help me learn to like the movie guys.

Grow a cunt, fuck.
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>>78365076
>just doesn't make sense.
He was hit with a bowcaster, had his arm cut by Finn, and emotionally was still shaken up from killing Han. Everything was against him.
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>>78365076
Kylo had a fucking blaster hole in his chest and Finn wounded his arm among other things.
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>>78365076
Well it depends on what Rey is first. There could be a reason for it all.

Also, why wouldn't trusting in the Force work like that. We know Luke would have gotten his shit stomped in because Vader's a clear at mind full Sith Lord who cut down someone who he at this point relished in killing. Ren on the other hand is a conflicted fucktard who hasn't even completed his training and is too doubtful in himself to keep a clear head after killing his father
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>>78365126
Well yeah, that too

>>78365147
They work only because they showed how other people respond to them. If it was just Ren raging alone in a room or if it showed his subordinates clearly freaking out, maybe, but both times the people are clearly used to this happening which speaks a lot about his character
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>>78365140
Because your standards are absurdly low.
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>>78364601
That all sounds horrible, so hopefully none of it.
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>>78365140
Is he after the hobbits or what the hell?
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So this is how the end of the world looks like?
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>TFA release day + 4 days
>people are still calling Kylo a Sith lord
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>>78365191

That's treasonous language there.
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>>78365186
Yes, that instead of an actual villain he's a whiny little shit who isn't terrifying in the slightest.

I mean I'm struggling to see how Luke got his ass handed to him by this tool. Was he passing a kidney stone that week?
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>>78365148
I thought Rey defeating Kylo made sense.
Mostly because my view she seems to have already had lightsaber training of some sort. Though her abilities show more towards a Sith fighting style over a Jedi one.
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>>78365191
We're all on 4chan, anon. Our sights weren't set all that high to begin with.
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>>78365209
Blame the casual approach.
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>>78365140
Because he delivered really good action choreography that was both flashy and made sense.
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>>78365209
I hope a real Sith shows up and BTFO of the Ren pretenders
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>>78365214
I think Luke was away or something, maybe with his child. Kylo then killed everyone. Luke felt that his attachments are the reason that this all happened and dumps Rey on Jakku.
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>>78365213
I serve the true emperor.
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>>78365214
He is terrifying but not in a Sidious or Vader way but in a school shooter way. Like you have no idea what sh could possibly do next
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>>78364367
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akndarvLrdk
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>>78365279
Get his ass handed to him by a failed stormtrooper and a scavenger apparently.
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>>78365256
>Sith
>Being alive
Hahahahahaha

Also we're going back to the OT days where the concept of "Sith" didn't exist and it was just "evil guys" and "Fallen Jedi"
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>>78364782
Speaking of, will we get any more Heroes as DLC? I'd like to get Kylo Ren
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>>78365292
Finn did jack shit to him

And of course Rey is only a scavenger. No unknown past that could be relevant at all
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>>78365209
>Tell casual friend that Kylo isnt a Sith after hey called him one
>Next day, overhear him talking to another friend
>"It's cool how he could use the Force like that. He's not even a Sith you know!"
Not sure if I should be annoyed at how many casuals have jumped onto the bandwagon, or at least happy that my friends are interested enough to learn and get their facts right.
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>>78365310
>will they take my money

Of course they will you fool
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Was Vader a Sith or just a Jedi who turned to the dark side?
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>>78365335
Sith.
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>>78365335
Anakin's classified as a "Fallen Jedi" these days
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>>78365335
Sith
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>>78365335
Who the fuck knows at this point.
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>>78365335
Yes
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>>78365140

Could this guy have done better against Kylo Ren than Finn did?
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DAILY REMINDER

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSQ3BJVMfAI

is basically the same as this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0LhC7N3mNI

POTTERY CONFIRMED .
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>>78365222
That's entirely possible. She's definitely skilled in combat based on her staff work. Still linking with the Force as Rey did and gaining ability from it has always been part of Star Wars. You don't need training to link with the Force like that. You DO need training to do so consistently. Luke found that out in the comics. Just because he linked with the Force to take down the Death Star and sort of managed Boba Fett while blind didn't help him later when he was thrown into an arena.

Untrained, using the Force is something of a reflex action. It's not something you can rely on, or even consciously use, not with 100% certainty.
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>>78365027

Which was refreshing because while Sith he doesn't kill indiscriminately, which makes his rage seem more frightening in my opinion when it slips out of control. It's just constantly building and building without murder as an outlet.
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>>78365076
Ben just took a bowcaster shot to the rib area.
This bowcaster was literally throwing fuckers around the whole move, they even put a lot of focus on it.
He had just done the thing, so his mind was fucked.
The one single hit that Finn got off was on his dominant side.
He was winning until she went 'lolforce'.
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>>78364767
>A New Hope: The Throne Room
>Empire Strikes Back: Imperial March
>Return of the Jedi: Battle of Endor
>Phantom Menace: Duel of the Fates
>Attack of the Clones: Across the Stars
>Revenge of the Sith: Battle of Heroes


TFA didn't have anything that really stuck out for me. Did get Temple of Doom vibes during the credits though.
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How old is Admiral Ackbar? That was Ackbar, right?
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>>78365292
Hey, those just aren't any storm trooper and scavenger, they were the storm trooper and scavenger.
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>>78365310
Yes, Dice confirmed 4 more Hero/Villains, but we dont know exactly how it's going to work. I think the entire game and it's DLC is going to be set in the OT Era.

I am predicting Chewbacca will be one. I am really hoping for Ahsoka though.
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I really wish this whole 'Ren is a whiny brat' meme ends.
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>>78365335
By definition he was the only sith.

By lore he was the chosen jedi.
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>>78365222

People keep talking about how Rey must have already been trained before being dumped on Jakku.

Did you people miss the part where she was fucking 11?
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>>78365418
Well then maybe you shouldn't be such a fucking pouty shit Ren.
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>>78365368
TFW
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>>78365326
He stabbed him through the shoulder. He also broke out his prisoner, escaped with the map to Luke and showed the rebellion how to take down the starkiller.
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>>78365402
Yes, that was Ackbar.

I wonder if his species has a long lifespan.
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>tfw Porkins 2.0 is actually Aftermath's Mary SUe, Norra Wexley's son
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>>78364315
>Read through TFA's IMDB
So, all them additional voices, where were they?
And why isn't Ashley Eckstein one of them?
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>>78365421
>Did you people miss the part where she was fucking 11?
WAT
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>>78365300
The concept of Sith existed before you were even born, son.
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>>78365383
Am I the only one who thought Rey's theme was god-tier?
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>>78365421
Jedi started that early. If she was part of Luke's new order, and his new order was similar enough to the old order, then yeah training kids to use weapons was a thing.
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>>78365368
play them both at once. = mind blown
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>>78365463

When she was dropped off on Jakku.
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>>78365417

I hope some of them are from rebels.
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>>78365418
He is kind of whiny though. I mean he doesn't actually whine but he gets belligerent when things aren't going the way he wants them to. But the thing is that it's totally intentional to show he will never be as cool as grandpa
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Where my Hux bros at? Who else /Didn'tGetTrakin'd/ here?
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>>78365300
>he not ready for their revenge.
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>>78365455
I didn't say he didn't do anything to his plans. That's why he was so pissed at him in the first place.

And it's not like Finn is some spring chicken, he's got battle training
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>>78365418

Why? it's in his blood.

Also, I think they wear the same boots.
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>>78365471

Having a bunch of kids swinging lightsabers around blindly while standing right next to each other seems like a really bad idea.
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>>78365364
In the condition Kylo was in, probably. Had he used his force throw on him like he might've been able to against Finn, then that would end it. Assuming he didn't though like against Finn and with all his injuries, this man has the advantage for one reason: He does not fuck around
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>>78365458
I was digging Ello Asty and was disappointed to see him shot down
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>>78365513
Training sabers apparently don't cut. They're like nerf versions.
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>>78365421
If the PT is any indication, Jedi start training way before 11
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>>78365485
Bossk/Chewbacca/Ahsoka/An Inquisitor

Sounds like a decent and plausible lineup.
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>>78365523
At least the qt survived

I didn't know that Sullustan was Nien Nunb

Did he survive?
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>>78365417
If we only get OT, that means we could get
>Ben Kenobi
>Chewbacca

If we get TFA
>Kylo Ren
>Rey

I wish we got some prequels DLC
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>>78365457
>>78365457
>I wonder if his species has a long lifespan.

In TFA, he'd be at least 70 years old.

In Legends, he only died a year before the events of TFA would have taken place.
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>>78365491
He's a Dark Side user.
He's literally bathing in emotion constantly.
I don't see how him letting it out is so fucking odd to people.
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>>78365458

> son of a Y wing pilot who flew in the battle of endor.

What a missed opportunity to make this guy General Horton Salm or his son.
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>>78365505

Everyone seems to shit on him but I thought his speech was one of the highlights of the movie.

Went in expecting him to be a dweeb and not give a shit like most Moffs but I liked him. The adversarial relationship with Kylo is interesting though I wish they got along. We've already seen this song and dance with Vader and the Moffs.
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>>78365541
I'm pretty sure he did
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John Williams' score for TFA reminds me of his Harry Potter stuff more than Star Wars. Anyone else get that vibe?
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>>78365537
I don't think Bossk and the other Bounty Hunters like Dengar or IG-88 are well-known enough to general audiences since they only showed up in the background of one scene and had no lines
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So does Kylo already have that Force Rage going on or what? Also are force users generally more durable then those who aren't?
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>>78365569
>Also are force users generally more durable then those who aren't?

It's called plot armor.
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>>78365550
>the hitler screaming
>the nazi salute

Way to on the nose, only actual cringe in the otherwise great movie.
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Who do you think Kylo Ren wants dead more at this point, Finn or Rey?
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>>78365550
>Everyone seems to shit on him but I thought his speech was one of the highlights of the movie.

His speech was shit and over the top.

He made every acting choice a first year drama student would make doing an impression of a snide British man.
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>>78365543
Yoda is also a possibility. Then again, they refused to have the Emperor use his Lightsaber since he only used it in the prequels, so who knows
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>>78365591
Rey.
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>>78365545
So in that TCW arc where he's a high ranked veteran soldier giving advice to the young prince he's only 20?
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>>78365543
>Ben Kenobi
We talking PT, OT, or somthing in between like pic related?
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>>78365568
You're right, Dice probably don't even know their names.

I miss Free Radical.

If Free Radical made the game, we would have 12 heroes at launch, from fan-favorites to lesser-known gems, and we'd get planets/factions from all three eras.
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>>78365335
He was a Sith Lord, the apprentice of another Sith Lord. There can only be two.

How stupid are you?
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>>78365591
He clearly wants her alive. Did you people even watch the movie?
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>>78365591
Rey. Cause he beat Finn, but Rey beat him.
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>>78365591
I'd say Rey
but I think Finn will end up as the most wanted in general for the First Order
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>>78365534
It also seemed like Rey had access to the Force even before her incident at Maz's castle. She seemed to have brief flashes or moments where she made a connection with others. Like when she was first washing off her scrap and she looked at that woman.

It's entirely possible Rey was training, preliminarily anyway, and already knows the Jedi aren't a myth. But she was dumped on Jakku and as kids can sometimes do (especially after traumatic events, like if she was witness to the massacre of Luke's order) she could have shut herself off from those memories. Blocked them off completely so she won't remember even as an adult.

Still that's only speculation. Obviously.
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>>78365591
>he wants them both dead
>interracial couple

kylo ren is actually a typical /pol/ poster
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>>78365550
Tarkin actually respected Vader and knew he was reliable. Hux clearly can't stand Kylo and berates him, which none of the imperials ever dared do to Vader (except for that one guy who got force choked)
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>>78365300
The concept of "Sith" dates back to 1978, kid. Know your Star Wars.
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>>78365594
>His speech was shit and over the top.

>giving a speech to hundreds of soldiers before going into war
>not going over the top
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>>78365465
>The concept of Sith existed before you were even born, son.
But the name was not around in the OT is what I'm saying
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>>78365421
Younglings started their training way earlier, it's quite possible she was trained from hre very early years
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>>78365604
Alec Guiness Ben Kenobi since Studio Dice would clearly rather pretend the prequels never existed
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>>78365632
>Tarkin actually respected Vader and knew he was reliable.

Was that in the book?
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>>78365602
>So in that TCW arc where he's a high ranked veteran soldier giving advice to the young prince he's only 20?

Yes? Leia was a high ranked soldier of the Rebellion giving orders to generals at age 19. Padme was elected Queen of a whole planet at age 14.
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>>78365591
Finn. The guy is literally directly responsible for every bad thing that happened to the First Order in that movie. Hell, Rey probably wouldn't have even been around to kick Ren's ass if not for Finn.
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>>78365550
>Shitting on Hux
What?

>>78365591
He wants to adopt Rey. Finn will always be a TRAIIITOORRRRR
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>>78364315
You're fucking kidding. It's like a parody.
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>>78365632

Reading the lost command really puts a spin on Tarkin and Vader's relationship.
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>>78364678
So no more midichlorian bullshit? Or at least did they retcon it so training can increase midichlorians?
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>>78365670
The First Order is gonna despise Finn so much by the end of the trilogy.
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>>78365594

What >>78365640 said

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6pWPiNUiyg
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>>78365640
>I'll try being cliche
>that's a good acting trick!
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>>78365509
I'm sort of expecting it. Maz name dropped the Sith.
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I'm shocked how few people/internet blatherers think that Finn is Force sensitive

Dude does all kinds of shit he has zero training in flawlessly, ie shooting down tie fighters, swinging a light saber, just like Luke.

he also seems to hear "thousands of voices calling out at once" when the Starkiller destroys those planets.

He may not have as much force power as Rey shows, but he's obviously got the potential. Poe too.
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>>78365667
>19
I always thought she (and Luke) were meant to be in their late 20s in the OT. They certainly don't look like teens.
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>>78365684
Oh lord.
Here we go again.
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>>78365663
Yes, in fact Tarkin actually guessed that Vader was Anakin.
But anyway, even in the original movie Tarkin and Vader weren't antagonistic to each other, Vader told Tarkin about sensing Obi-Wan and Tarkin trusted that Vader would deal with the Rebel pilots
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>>78365676
>non of the disney cucks in this thread are remotely upset by this.
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>>78365676
It's actually pretty hilarious that despite being the most ridiculed by people after he showed up, and considered the most jokey of the cyborg squad, he turns out to so far be the most competent and dangerous, having engineered the events of Vader Down.
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>>78365667

The actors look so old I always think of Han and Leia being close to 30 in the OT.
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>>78365684
You don't know what you're talking about, do you?
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>>78365707
>swinging a light saber
To be fair this could stem from his stormtrooper training. Since he fought that guy with the electro-mace. Probably that same training but with a lightsaber instead.
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>>78365707
Plus he reacts to Kylo Ren's arrival before he even saw the ship
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>>78365684
Midichlorians just build around force hot-spots.

If you train hard enough, in theory, more midichlorians would flock to you, as you get stronger in the force.

Anakin only had a bunch of midichlorians because he was the chosen one, and its implied he was created partially by the force vis sheev/plageuis

The midichlorians are just a convenient method for jedi to find force sensatives, theyre not actually a measurement of power levels or whatever.

To get a better understanding, watch the final 3 episodes of TCW.
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>>78365470

I wasn't even aware she had one. I guess when it came to the music I was mostly listening in the hope that they wouldn't spam OT themes (which thankfully they didn't). Other than that I was paying attention to everything else I guess. Well, that and I remember it being good, but really this isn't one of Williams' more stand out scores. But then again neither was ANH. But like 'Hope', it'll set up some awesome themes in the next two.
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>>78365701
>"Kylo Ren must Complete his training"

Inb4 Darth Ren
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>>78365688
I was actually kind of taken aback by the raw fervor and hatred they had for him every time. I know the Empire is shrinking and has escaped into fanaticism to keep morale, but jesus christ the Troopers and the First Order were fucking VINDICTIVE, and they all knew him on sight, even Kylo. They got across well that it's a small military religion now, and not a vast uncaring one.
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>>78365684
Everyone has the force, that has always been the case. Which means everyone has midochlorians, Jedi just have a fuck ton more then normal people. It's really not hard to understand.
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>>78365523
>Ello Asty was made as a reference to the Beastie Boys (more for MCA)
>it even says "license to ill" on his helmet
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>>78365707

He also breaks the mental conditioning of the FO Stormtroopers inexplicably considering Phasma said it's never really been a problem.
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>>78365670
>literally directly responsible for every bad thing that happened to the First Order

Yeah, pretty much everything is Finn's fault, when you look at it like that. Springing Poe, his intel on the base, the people he lucked into meeting on the way...

If Finn had just got shot for insubordination in that village, the First Order would have been unopposed
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>>78365684
They are literally never going to use midichlorians again. Don't be retarded

>>78365688
I hope in every movie, if the FO see Finn they always call him TRAITORRR
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>>78364852
KOTOR 1/2, or both?

KOTOR doesn't support modern widescreen resolutions so you will need a widescreen patch. Try this out:
https://www.flawlesswidescreen.org/

If playing KOTOR 2, it is mandatory to download The Restored Content Mod. It fixes the entire game, and adds some unfinished content.

I also advise against using M4-78 in KOTOR 2. It's the modder's attempt in creating an unfinished planet in the game. Personal opinion: It's awful. The pacing is awful, the dialogue is awful, the optimization is awful. If your curious, do it on a second playthrough, avoid it on your first.

Truth is, the KOTOR Subreddit is a great source for mod guides.

https://www.reddit.com/r/kotor/comments/3c2kvw/kotor_1_and_2_mod_builds_guaranteed_compatibility/
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>>78365723
>>78365711
Mark Hamill was 26 years old, playing a 19 year old.

Carrie Fisher was 21, playing a 19 year old.
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>>78365688
By movie 3 the First Order'll hate him so much that his name will be a slur they use
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>>78365719
>implying anybody cares about the comics
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>>78365775
>They are literally never going to use midichlorians again. Don't be retarded

God I hope they do, just to set you off. Who's working on Star Wars novels right now? I need to write them an email.
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>>78365688
No. For you see, Finn shall throw down Snoke in single combat and in so doing become the new, indisputable Supreme Leader. Finn will reveal the true honor and valor of the Stormtrooper, revealing them to be a true warrior race destined for greatness, far greater than the Jedi ever were. Then Phasma leans down and assumes the pic related position to her new king and lover.

That's right, folks. Episode IX is written by Karen Traviss.
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>>78365749
Especially when you add in Hux's speech, they genuinely believe that what they're doing is the right thing to do, even when they probably killed several billion on Hosnian.
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>>78365753
>It's really not hard to understand.

If that were true, it wouldn't come up EVERY FUCKING TIME
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>>78365792
CANON FOREVER
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>>78365688
>The First Order hates Finn so much that he gets the highest bounty in Galactic history
>Boba Fett comes out of retirement just to kill him
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>>78365764
>Dies
>just like MCA
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>>78365795
>God I hope they do, just to set you off.
Look at the post I replied to. Do you honestly think that kind of shit is going to be acknowledged at all?
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>>78364425
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>>78365670
Finn's introduction into the film is the best thing ever, brainwashed as a kid to do evil shit something inside him just tells him that this is all wrong, kylo even feels him turning before he makes his choice. The scene when Finn meets Poe is one of my favorites, "Why are you helping me?" "Because it's the right thing to do." Whole film was gold to me, went in having doubts, but most of the time I was left smiling.
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>>78365788
Shit, seriously? 26?

Because Mark looks the youngest out of the three of them now.
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>>78365788
>Carrie Fisher was 21

Holy shit. I mean she was hot. She always had this mature hotness. But I thought she was way older. Like mom aged.
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>>78365811
>Boba Fett doing anything, ever
Finn could beat him with his eyes closed.

Just like Luke and Han did.
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>>78365804
I'm pretty sure this isn't as bad as Luuke and Luuuke
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>>78365736
So Finn is at least as sensitive as Leah, if not more, since she could feel the second Han got Obi Wan'd
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>>78365646
>But the name was not around in the OT is what I'm saying

Vader was called a Dark Lord of the Sith in the original script for Star Wars.
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>>78365811
>Boba Fett is 80 years old
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>>78365804
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>>78365797
>Karen Traviss.

You laugh now, but I've already read theories about Finn being a Mandalorian.
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>>78365568
I can see Bossk happening, from the bounty hunters in Empire he definitely stood out since he was the first one of them to be shown to the audience, he also stood out because of his looks, all of them were gray/black/blueish except for him, a yellow lizard
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>>78365845
Reminder that Luuuke was an april fool's joke making fun of how silly Luuke is.
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>>78364732
I like how the Storm Troopers in SW were better armed than the rebels, yet the rebel pistol blasters were killing the shit out of them, while rebels were mostly only wounded by ST shots...did the armor make things WORSE when a Storm Trooper took a hit? Like, did the blast bounce around in there like a .22 round?
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Bounty for Jedi Master Skywalker: 1,000,000,000,000 Credits

Bounty for Jedi Knight Rey: 1,000,000,000 Credits

Bounty for General Leia Solo: 1,000,000,000,000,000 Credits

Bounty for The Dirty Stinking Traitor FN-2187: Blank Check.
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>>78365854
There's nothing wrong with this at all context-wise

>>78365837
>"Why are you helping me?" "Because it's the right thing to do."
Now you liked that part because Finn was bullshitting and Poe called him out on it right? That's why that scene was funny
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>>78365854
>Chewie gets two lightsabers.
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>>78365849
65-70 in TFA, since we don't know when he was cloned exactly.
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>>78365839
Mark took care of himself and stayed out of the business. Carrie always had prior problems, and Ford is Ford.
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>>78365845
But this is a young eu and they are already ruining star wars.
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>>78365723
Now Han Solo, he was 30 years old in the first movie.
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>>78365818
Do I think that the novel, film, and comic book writers are hacks who have to reference and explain every little thing?

Yes, absolutely. It'll come up eventually. Right next to Anakin's high test count.
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>>78365883

In ANH if you watch the first boarding sequence you'll see rebel troops going down just from blaster bolts exploding next to them while stormies only go down on direct hits to the chestplate

So that armour is good for something at least
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>>78365845
Aside from having stupid names, Luuke wasn't bad. Evil clones aren't really that beyond belief.
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>>78365898
Well, I was a decade off.

Though man, I wouldn't mind seeing geriatric Boba.
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I'm trying to remember, but had Rey and Leia ever interacted before Leia hugs her after Han dies?
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Ages of some of the new characters as of the TFAVD:
Rey: 19
Finn: 23ish
Poe: 32
General Hux: 35+
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>>78365887
And then Star Wars became One Piece.
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>>78365854
That was hilarious, though it was odd that lightsabers are immune to whatever emp blast that was. Also that Artoo can fit that many sabers in himself. Swear to Sheev he's like some kind of clown car. Or clown trash bin? Whatever.
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The only thing from the comics that bother me a tiny bit is Luke and Vader having their first encounter before ESB. And even that doesn't bother me that much.
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>>78365904
Look, let's be perfectly honest with ourselves. You really don't think anybody involved with the stuff that matters like the movies and TV shows actually care or will use any of the stuff we see in the books and comics do you?
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>>78365952
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>>78365849
Boba Fett is 61 in TFA, as he was born 31 years prior to A New Hope.
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If I was Leia I would be pissed with Luke.

While he was off napping, her husband got killed and the galactic republic got destroyed. But hey, at least he's closer with the force, that's good I guess.
>>
Finn is kind of a schmuck. He's a former sanitation worker, he couldn't handle the true nature of the FO's brutality, he gets his ass kicked by a girl and a ball, etc. He can't even understand droids or Chewie

And that all makes him awesome and more likeable than some beefy white dude.
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>>78365797
Interestingly enough, The Force Awakens almost had a completely different ending. J J Abrams toyed with the idea that after Finn witnesses Han's death, he puts his blaster on, proclaims “Now I am Han” and morphs into him.
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>>78365887
Part of me would probably find it funny if there was some running joke on that. Like brainwashing and the First Order is so knit that Finn going rogue is seemingly worse than even Luke fucking Skywalker.
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>>78365968
Whoops, 65. My mistake.
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>>78365959
But they promised a single continuity!!!!!!!
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I was disappointed Lando didn't show up in TFA. I hope we see him in Episode VIII
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>>78365974

They HAVE to explain it as Luke searching for something vital. Because otherwise it's OoC as fuck.
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>muh canon
Why is /co/ so full of Disney shills that attack anything from the EU and lap up absolutely anything Disney calls "canon"
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>>78365939
So the Millenium Falcon is the Going Merry?
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>>78365990
Meesa clumsy
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>>78365953
Really? Nothing else?
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>>78365926
No Kylo grabbed Rey before Leia shows up
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>>78365568
>IG-88


Anyone who ever played Shadows of The Empire knows that fucker and probably has PTSD about him.
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>>78365981
He's like the first legitmately normal guy the main cast has ever had. He's not a princess or a destined chosen one or the mayor of a cloud city. He's just a soldier.
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>>78366000
We already had too many returning characters.
Enjoy Senator Calrissian next episode though
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>>78365959
Except, y'know, the entire Lucasfilm Story Group?

TFA even has a book protagonist in it. (The kid from Aftermath)
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>>78366002
Because 90% of the people here need to be gassed.
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>>78366028
I mean, there was Han, a space trucker who decided to do good for a change
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>>78366000
>Rey, I am your father

And it explains the abandonment.
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>>78366013
Sure, Evil Artoo and Threepio are kinda dumb, but I find them entertaining enough and I don't see how they're a blemish on the canon.
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>>78366002
>and lap up absolutely anything Disney calls "canon"
Yeah, because we all love Aftermath right?
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>>78366004
>yfw Luffy rides on top of the Falcon in the core of the second Death Star and destroys it with GOMU GOMU NO PROTON CANNON
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>>78366002
Okay.
Let's put this out there.
What the fuck is everyone's deal with canon?
Yeah, it's what defines a fictional universe and keeps everything in check and balance.
Why the fuck does everyone make a big deal about it?
If something is no longer canon, grow the fuck up, it's not your decision to make.
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>>78365559
A lot of people have said that, especially Rey's Theme.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65As1V0vQDM
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>>78366033
And don;t forget his trusted confidants, High Advisor Wedge and Sub Advisor Pancake Head.
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>>78366041
>TFA even has a book protagonist in it. (The kid from Aftermath)
Yes, but was that actually said in the movie? Was there any reference to the book? I didn't even realize that was in there until someone brought it up
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>>78366059
You have awful taste.
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>>78365959
What they use does not matter. To me the importance of canon and a single continuity means closing doors on theories. Saw someone theorize that Poe is Luke's son due to piloting skill, but it's impossible given the recent comics.

Also stories should stand on their own anyway. Filoni is right when he says Rebels and Rogue One shouldn't be bothered to interact, it causes needless restrictions.
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>>78365984
Thankfully Kasdan was there to slap the shit out of JJ's mouth.
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>>78366000
>Lando shows up at the Resistance Base
>"Hey guys, what's up?"
>"Chewieeeeee, my man! How you doing buddy?"
>"Leia, looking mighty fine as always"
>"I see the Falcon still hasn't fallen apart after all these years"
>"Now where's my good pal Han? He still owes me a lot of credits that scoundrel"
>...
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>>78366090

Wedge's actor hates Star Wars so
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>>78366004
Yep, which means that ship is destined for a fate it doesn't deserve.
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>>78365939
It annoyed me a little that they gave Robin the ANH look, they could've gone with the ESB clothes or even the Boush disguise
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>>78366028
And despite being just a grunt, he is the one who was the key to beating the Starkiller.

He knew every single weakness of the FO... and almost nothing else about anything in the universe, which was fantastic
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>fighting over canon

The old EU was full of dumb shit.
The new EU will inevitably have dumb shit.

Hell, even the main movies are full of dumb shit.

SW always has been full of dumb shit and always will be. Just enjoy what you like and ignore the rest.
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>>78366013
Nothing wrong with the Empire creating a bunch of murder droids that proceeded to then murder their creators. Hell that's a fine EU tradition I'm glad has carried over.
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>>78366033
For what planet, though? Why wasn't he on Hosnian Prime at the time it blew?
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>>78366090
Not forgetting Minister of the Interior, Wicket W Warrick.
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>>78366002
Because I never cared about the EU, so it's loss means nothing to me. Oh no, what will we ever do without Clone Emperor and Mara Su- I mean Jade?
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>>78366102
Oh god no
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>>78366107
>>78366004
>I'll carry you all just a little further!
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>>78366033
SENATOR? Fuck that, I want him in charge of the banks. That's the ultimate evolution of gambling, after all.
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>>78365748
More like Darth Ben.
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>>78366094
I don't see what's so awful about them. I can buy the Empire made a protocol droid designed for torture and an assasin droid disguised as an astromech.
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>>78366092
I don't think so. But by that logic, Nien Numb wasn't mentioned either. But he was there, and we know that was Nien.

Fact is, the LSG cares about it all and is keeping everything connected. People can whine and cry about it all they like, isn't going to change anything. The kid from Aftermath is in TFA. So is Hondo and Vizago's emblems. So is the Inflictor from Lost Stars.

It's all connected because thats how the LSG roles.
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>>78366122
Bespin.
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>>78366134

TWIST THE KNIFE
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>>78366113
At the very least, it shows how someone who grew up in some indoctrinated religious hellhole can use that against them, since once you get so immersed in the culture you know nothing else, well, you damn well know the culture and all its little holes.
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>>78366074
I'm disappointed they put vital info about the New Republic in books instead of explaining it properly in the movie.
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>>78366098
Thankfully Kasdan won't write another Star Wars movie.
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>>78366144
It doesn't matter if you can buy their existence. That's what you people don't get.

I can buy that there's a really fucking clumsy Gungan in the universe, but that doesn't mean Jar Jar is a good character, you fucking idiot.
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>>78366132
>implying

Don't act like we won't meet his wife, Jara Made or see some Sheev clones. Hell, I bet Kylo Jacen kills her too.
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>>78366144
>>78366059
They're like if HK had all his charm surgically removed, and replaced with a drive to retardedly suicidal lack of impulse control.
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>>78366102
"So Leia, I hear you're single now! Somebody please tell me you saved Han's jacket from his corpse, I always loved wearing that thing!"
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>>78366149
Surely he fucked off from Bespin forever after joining the Rebellion, though. Plus he was only there for Cloud City, not any other part of the planet.
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>>78366103
How come?
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>>78366135
>We see the Flacon's Klabutamann in the next movie because Force
Ayyy
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>>78366135
So what would be their Thousand Sunny?
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>>78365711

Ironic, considering Fischer actually was 19 when she did ANH. Hamill was like 23 though if I remember correctly. But yeah, Between ROTS and ANH it's roughly 20 years.
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>>78366176
You're asking people to take a critical eye in a thread where people unabashedly love and praised The Force Awakens.

That's like hanging outside of a Kenny G concert and trying to argue about jazz with his fans.
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>>78366125
And what about Speaker of the House, Prune Face?
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>>78366189
Carrie Fisher would take him up on that offer. Leia not so much.
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>>78366160
They should have had a scene that took place in a great audience chamber and a stately figure in robes says, "I now call to order this meeting of the Republic Senate on a matter of vital - what the fuck is that red light?" BOOM
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>>78366188
HK-47 was never good.
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>>78366210
Or hey, maybe people just have different opinions and that's fine.

Fuck, some of you people take this franchise way too sseriously.
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>>78366217
>That's a little bright
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>>78366189
"Oh he's dead? I always knew that Ben kid was no good!"
"Soooooo, I guess this means your single now?"
"Not happening? Ok, I get that. Do I at least get the Falcon back"
"ANGRY WOOKIE NOISES"
"Ok, ok. Calm down. Well it was nice seeing you all again, see ya!"
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>>78366212
Or Grand Chancellor of the New Republic Binks
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>>78366219
Yes he was, because his writers understood the concept of restraint.
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>>78366188
>drive to retardedly suicidal lack of impulse control.
They were designed in an Imperial weapons lab. That's not a design flaw, it's the design.
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>>78366238
No, he was just Minister of Defence.

Pottery
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>Rebellion running huge bombing raid with the fate of the Galaxy in the balance.
>No B-Wings
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>>78366227
I make no apologies.
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>>78366192

I don't remember the details but he turned down a role in the Prequels and a role in TFA and I remember hearing about him telling his nephew (Ewan) to stay away from Star Wars.
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>>78366219
Query: Does is it painful to have such debilitating taste, meatbag?
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>>78365335
Both.
He was a fallen Jedi who became a Sith Lord.
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>>78366213
she probably already did
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>>78366210
>>78366197
Knowing Star Wars, whatever it is, it wouldn't be nearly as cool as the Sunny.
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>>78366254
I don't think the casuals would get the reference or buy the toys.
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>>78366260
I guess I don't blame him after the originals and the prequels, but damn, some nasty fallout must have dropped
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>>78365935
Hux doesn't seem that old. I had him down as pretty young, like 25 or lower, in competition with Kylo
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>>78366254

They explained why they only have X-Wings.
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>>78365421
Anakin was like 10 in The Phantom Menace and considered too old to become a Jedi.
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>>78366294
Something about model lines in their Chinese factory?
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>>78366013
See, my brain doesn't operate like this.

I take the movies for what they are, with only other movies being canon to them, then I take the serieses being their alternate expanded universe including the movies and then I take the books and comics as a third alternate expanded universe including all of the above.
I call it the "not taking a shitty companies' word for it and taking it as it actually is"-canon.

It also comes with the benefit of me being able to just appreciate Gillen just having ridiculous fun with writing his Vader comic, while not getting mad that every movie is ruined forever because the murderbots are just an obvious jab at the movie.
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>>78365619
The guy is scared of not being as strong as Vader and he got beaten by an untrained scavenger girl. Did you even watch the movie?
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>>78366242
as
>>78366176
said, that doesn't matter.
You can justify the entire cast being spontaneously transformed into wombats; that doesn't make it a good idea to do so.
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>>78366160
The problem with it is that it had zero impact on the characters. It was basically an afterthought. Compare it with Luke's Jedi academy getting destroyed and the impact it made on a bunch of characters.
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>>78366260
So weird, his uncle hates Star Wars Ewan loves it. He does however hate the more intense fans.
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>>78366192
>>78366260
>>78366290
Imagine playing a character that got famous not because you played him, but because of stories written in books.
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>>78366254
No Y-Wings either, there was also no Interceptors or Advanced on the side of the FO, the lack of variety bugged the shit out of me
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>>78366239
>>78366263
His entire character consisted of being the edgy comic relief, yet he wasn't funny in the slightest.

>"MEATBAGS!!!" HAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

Only Kylo Ren would find HK-47 enjoyable
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>>78366254
YOU IGNORANT SHIT
Y WINGS ARE THE DEDICATED BOMBERS
B WINGS ARE FINICKY PIECES OF SHIT THAT ONLY SPECIAL SNOWFLAKES FLY
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Just got back from the theatre.
It was good.

But there was just one thing that stuck out.
Rey was a Mary Sue.
I've heard people say it, and I didn't give it much credence due to the word being tossed around so much.
It's true though.

Rey is
>immediately liked by everyone she meets
>speaks Bocce, the binary language of droids
>immediately is on board with saving the Resistance
>speaks Wookie despite being on Jakku her whole life
>flies the Falcon for the first time and does so perfectly
>is better at repairing the Falcon than Han
>is more powerful than Kylo, despite being aware that she's Force sensitive for all of a day

It was a bit much.
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>>78366306
He could of been a Pokemon Trainer though.
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>>78366320
He did however also want her alive. Remember Snoke told him to bring her to him. Also he still thought he could turn her to the dark side
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>>78365953
That's all?
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>>78366294
It was something about toys, right?
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>>78366349
>His entire character consisted of being the edgy comic relief
maybe one day you might do more than look up his scenes on youtube.
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>>78366242
You people are so slow.
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>>78366360
>speaks Bocce, the binary language of droids
>speaks Wookie despite being on Jakku her whole life
About these two things. You saw where she lived right? It makes perfect sense why she would be able to speak a lot of languages.

There's a lot of factors as to why she beat Kylo too, namely the bowgun shot in his gut
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>>78366365
Seeing the humor in TFA, this doesn't bother me anymore.
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>>78366365
Aphra is going to be taken captive by the Rebellion
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>>78366360
>>speaks Bocce, the binary language of droids
>Wookie
Not speaks, understands. Literally every major character in all of Star Wars can, with the exception of Finn

Complaining about this shit makes me think you are b8'n
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>>78366168
Thankfully J.J. won't either.
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>>78366378
Doesn't make much sense either, having more variety means more toys to sell
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>>78365854
I had a friend insisting Finn had to be a Force User because only Force users could ever use lightsabers. I said no, showed him this page, and he didn't mention it again.
Thank you based Marvel.
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>>78366360
>immediately liked by everyone she meets
She's a cute girl :3
>speaks Bocce, the binary language of droids
The guy she was left with as a kid probably taught her it as part of her job
>immediately is on board with saving the Resistance
She has an obvious longing to get away from Jakku and have an adventure. And she was kind of forced into it
>speaks Wookie despite being on Jakku her whole life
No counter to this one. Maybe same as the Bocce thing?
>flies the Falcon for the first time and does so perfectly
Yeah, they dob't explain how she's a good pilot at all. Then again they didn't with Luke either
>is better at repairing the Falcon than Han
Nothing
>is more powerful than Kylo, despite being aware that she's Force sensitive for all of a day
All we can hope for is that they explain this in Ep 8
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>>78366360
She knows how to fly and repair the falcon because she's used to working with junk.
It was just never spelled out to you that she made her speeder during all her time on Jakku.
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>>78366360
I don't think she's stronger than Kylo it's just by the time they fought he'd been shot by Chewie, stabbed by Finn and just generally had a very stressful few days. She basically won a handicap match.
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She doesn't speak those languages. She just knows what they're saying
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>>78366360
>flies the Falcon for the first time and does so perfectly
If by perfectly you mean bumping it on the ground several times before flying.

>is better at repairing the Falcon than Han
No, Han could finish her sentences for her every time. The Falcon also got hella modifications since he had it last.
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>>78366391
>speaks Bocce, the binary language of droids

Bocce is a trade language, not droidspeak.
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>>78366412
Not him, but discussing the abilities of a character who found out about space magic five minutes ago is b8'n?
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>>78366430
Han uses a lightsaber in ESB, you don't have to make an effort to shut these people up
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>>78366365
Aaron is an idiot and I don't like that I currently have to read one of his comics just to continue with reading Gillen's Vader.
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>>78366391
>>78366412
Bocce was fine for her to understand, but Wookie was sloppy, I think.
There's gonna be no fucking Wookies on a desert planet.
That is as close to Wookie hell as you can imagine.

In the OT only Han understood Chewie, and only Luke understood R2.

Compare Rey to Finn.
Finn made lots of mistakes.
He lied a lot. Was often cowardly. But he had a good heart.

Rey made zero mistakes.
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>>78366428
Does it though? If you're a kid and you have a choice of starfighter to buy, are you really gonna bother with the B-Wing?
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>>78366360
>immediately is on board with saving the Resistance
Until she has to step up to do more than just deliver the droid, then she nopes the fuck out for a bit
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>>78366428
I'm gonna assume the century-old ultracorp and the already established 40 years of Star Wars merchandising trends, upon which they stand to make literal billions upon billions, will know better than some people online do about why they chose to do what
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>>78366430
General Grievous.

But in any case, the novelization implies Finn is force sensitive.
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>>78366400
As long as the Rebels execute her. The Aphra waifufags on here need to be taken down a notch.
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>>78366467
Oh I know, but he would have said that didn't count because there wasn't combat. There needed to be another context with normies using lightsabers to defend themselves.
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>>78366477
>Rey made zero mistakes.
She did let the Rathtars out and tried to run from the lightsaber which is why she got kidnapped in the first place
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>>78364980
Is this some sort of a marketing if there's actually tonfa merchandise?
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>>78366494
The movie too.
The "Force" sound effect is used when that trooper dies in front of him in the opening
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>>78366477
That's because Finn is the backbone of the movie. He is the catalyst that gets the plot going and keeps the events of the story grounded. His character has to wear alot of hats and so has to be more like an actual person have positives and flaws.

Because Finn is there to do all of that, Rey is given to space to simply be the cool but shallow action hero. They both play their parts.
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Are you guys not allowed to call it star wars general for some reason
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>>78366360
>speaks Bocce, the binary language of droids
>speaks Wookie despite being on Jakku her whole life

This is the one thing that still bothers me. She's absolutely a mary sue but I can find some way to explain her being a good mechanic or knowing how to fly.

But going by how much they were offering for BB-8 droids aren't exactly common on Jakku and when the fuck would she have learned to speak Wookie? Nobody knows how to speak Wookie. Han only understood Chewie because it was his best friend.
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>>78366477
Running away when offered the lightsaber and rejecting the Force wasn't a mistake?
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>>78366496
>The Aphra waifufags on here need to be taken down a notch.
Don't they know she's going to die? Everyone knows she's going to die. Even she herself knows she's going to die.
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An interesting thing, regarding the fight between Rey and Kylo, and why it turned out the way it did: There's all lot of fan-theory of why Kylo was beating on his wound. Let's say, he was trying to get himself angry, to fill on the hate, and to embrace the Dark Side. It doesn't work, he still loses to Rey, because at his core he is Light, and he's weak in the Dark Side. Add that to the bow caster wound, and the Force clearly picking a side, Kylo was going to lose.
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>>78366516
>She did let the Rathtars out
But that saved the day anyways.
>run from lightsaber
True, but that's pretty normal in the CHOSEN ONE stories.
There's always REJECT YOUR DESTINY scene.
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>>78366525
Shhhh, it's comfy here
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>>78366525
Yeah, technically, we're not allowed to even talk about the movie on here. Discussion must pertain to comics and cartoons.

That does not include novels and live action films.
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>>78366528
>She's absolutely a mary sue but I can find some way to explain her being a good mechanic or knowing how to fly.

this is called 'reaching'

"Well that makes sense, and that makes sense, this adds up, but dammit she is a SUE"
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>>78366465
Complaining that a character in Star Wars can understand Chewie & R2 is autistically petty or an attempt to enrage the autistically petty
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>>78366525
We still pretend it's a thread about a cartoon.
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>>78366525
The janitors like Star Wars, so this is their designated shitting thread.
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>>78366529
That's part of the normal heroic journey. Rejecting the call to adventure is archetypal .
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>>78366529
And all that did directly lead to her getting captured and tortured.
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>>78365140
>Climax of Episode IX.jpg
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>>78366525
It is the comics and cartoon board, but the cartoon is on hiatus until January.

It also mitigates some of the shitposters out. I didn't say it was a perfect system.


Unrelated, what the fuck captcha?
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>>78366557

Reaching is having to come up with explanations for her.
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>>78366486
Them explain the logic of having a variety of troopers but not have variety of ships
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>>78366525
We do it to circumvent a large amount of the trolls.
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>>78364425
I find it hilarious he was just playing the Guy from Girls.
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>>78366600
captchas are easy for the rest of the week. it's a christ mass miracle
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>>78366552
>But that saved the day anyways.
Yeah and they also almost died. It was clearly a mistake.

>True, but that's pretty normal in the CHOSEN ONE stories.
Not in Star Wars it's not
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>>78366189
It always was pretty weird that Lando was wearing Han's clothes. Seriously wtf?
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You know everyone keeps explaining Rey's expert piloting skills by saying HURR LOOK WHERE SHE LIVES.

But did you even pay attention? She never wanted to leave Jakku and lived like a fucking hobo. Where the hell would she have ever gotten the chance to fly ships?
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>>78366600
>Unrelated, what the fuck captcha?
The google AI hive mind in training wants to get nursed by your human intelligence.
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>>78366549
...he was a badly wounded kid apprentice with DEVASTATINGLY poor emotional control, who just murdered his father, in a dark cold fight during one of the worst losses of the New Order ever. Why do people need so much to explain why he lost? He's not some graceful dark knight. He's a loud pissed off mentally sick kid.

Look, here's a simpler way.

Darth Vader: Level 25 Dark Jedi Badass Fuck
Kylo: Level 5 Dark Force User [LOW HP]
Rey: Level 2 Force Sensitive Smuggler
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>>78364701
she is the giant of got,i want my giant girl porn
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Could the Enterprise take down the Starkiller?
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>>78366622
No we don't, you fucking idiot.

We do it because we were told it has to be a comic and cartoon thread by the mods.
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>>78366528
Kay, but up until Empire Luke was a Mary Sue too

She has plenty of time to get too cocky and fuck up over the next two films
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>>78366600
Not really hiatus, just midseason break.
Muh Gotham is gone until Feb and muh SHIELD is gone until March. ;_;
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>>78366549
I thought he was beating on his wound to stay conscious and not pass out but yeah, using pain to fuel hate works too

>>78366613
Most of this shit is context from the movie or hasn't been explained yet in the story
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>>78366653
He's not a kid.
He's actually what 29, 30?
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>>78366000
Trips confirm that Lando will show up in Episode VIII.
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>>78365854
>gee chewie how come your mom lets you have 2 lightsabers
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>>78366656
No, because the Enterprise gets fucked over in every new film

By the Beyond trailer it looks to be no different this time
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>>78366645
Eh, sand speeder. space ship. To-ma-to, ta-ma-to.
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Do the Rebels UK comic count?
or that Korean comic?
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>>78366655
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>>78366653
Kylo Ren is that kid who listened to Linkin Park obsessively and wore thick leather trenchcoats to school.
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>>78366525
Calling something a general usually brings bad stuff, and we're technically not even allowed to talk of other stuff that is not comics or cartoons, but since we are very contained and overall well behaved in the threads the mods turn a blind eye to us
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>>78366557
It's actually not a stretch for her to be a good mechanic if you paid attention.
She's been on Jakku since childhood and has a lot of experience scavenging from the various starships around. She would know all the ins and outs by the time of the movie.

As for being a good pilot, that's explained more in supplementary materials, such as her speeder (which she built) having the height limit of an airspeeder when unloaded and her flying around with it on occasions. She also rebuilt a ship, but sold it rather than use it to leave. Kind of shows how it was just her commitment to stay and wait that kept her on Jakku.
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>>78366653
How would you rank someone like the Grand Inquisitor?
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>>78366681
Really? How old is he supposed to be? I was under the impression he was barely 20 yet. He got across 'young school shooter' damn fine.
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>>78366657
Star Wars has been comic and cartoon related for decades. Plenty of live action shows have threads on here.

Don't be retarded.

We do it to circumvent some trolls, like I said. Last time we called it "Star Wars General" the thread was nothing but shitposting.
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>>78364425
I can't be the only one who thinks Kylo Ren's real face is ugly as hell and makes him look like a young Severus Snape

Because of this, when I exited the theater and walked past the line waiting for the next showing I yelled "SNAPE KILLS DUMBLEDOOR"
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>>78366708
>overall well behaved

Someone thinks awfully high of himself.
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>>78366704
>that awkward feeling when I wanted a trenchcoat at that age.

Sucks having a film noir fetish...
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>>78366725
I did feel a lot of Alan Rickman in him
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>>78366696
UK Comics are canon, if that's what you're asking.

Korean webcomic is in a grey area right now.
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>>78366711
I'm agreeing with you? I'm saying "This guy keeps calling her a Mary Sue, which she isn't, and can't even come up with anything about her that does make her a Sue, besides a vague 'did too well'"
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>>78366713
404 - Shit Not Found
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>>78366715
He was born right after RotJ.
That's why I can't understand everyone calling him a brat, or edgy.
He's a fucking adult, he doesn't whine, and he doesn't act like a kid.
I just can't understand it.
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>>78366713
I'd say level 4 or 5 Dark Force User like Kylo.
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>>78366718
>tripfag talking about circumventing trolls

Clearly, it didn't work.
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Has the C-3P0 comic come out yet?
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>>78366729
Are we not well-behaved? I don't see how our threads have caused any major outcries
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>>78366718
>Last time we called it "Star Wars General" the thread was nothing but shitposting.

Well there was not nearly enough Leia content.
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>>78366553
Yeah, it's impossible to have a decent discussion of Star Wars on /tv/
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>>78366713
I wouldn't. I come from /tg/ and decided to have a brief look after I saw Star Wars last night, and that one argument keeps annoying the hell out of me when it seemed dumb obvious in the movie.
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>>78366740
Damn I can't read tonight. Sorry.
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>>78366751
>implying

At least i'm actually providing content for the thread, Soundtracks download, films download, audiobooks download, etc.
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>>78366718
You are so lucky you post soundtracks. You are utterly useless in every other regard.
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>>78366713
Probably Level 3.

Not as good as Kylo.
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>>78366752
Next month.

The Visual Dictionary made me want that comic even more.
I need to know about the red droid that sacrificed itself to save C-3PO.
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>>78366695
Driving a car is not the same thing as flying a plane.
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>>78366718
You're either really stupid or really new.
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Hows the TFA novelization any new insights the movie didn't give us?
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>>78366713
Level 2, but with the bonus feat of Spinning, which puts his effective level 3 points higher unless countered with a similar feat
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>>78366653
Add to that, a gut shot from the most powerful rifle in the whole movie, which gave him that Low HP and few other penalties to moving and fighting.

Goddamn was Chewie and his bowcaster cool this time. Since when does that thing have so much kinetic energy?
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>>78366477
>>78366391
>>78366360
Bocce isn't the droid language. It's basically a Space Esperanto created by the Baobab Merchant Clan to create a simple alternative language for intergalactic trade agreements.

Binary droid language is just called Droidspeak
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>>78366658
>but up until Empire Luke was a Mary Sue too

I read some feminist article that purported this bullshit too.

Luke's a bumbling tard that has to get saved by everyone else up until the trench run.

You literally don't know what a mary sue is if you think Luke qualifies at all.
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>>78366746
He whines and acts like a kid in that he's extremely emotionally uncontrolled and conflicted. I mean it as praise, he did it well to get across him as a dangerous lunatic living weapon, because at any moment he could lose his shit over his cookies and milk and start sawing apart $80,000 credits worth of hardware.
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>>78366789
The guide description of her speeder (that she built herself) also says without any cargo loading it down it can fly decently high.
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>>78366713
A level 3. Weak in the Force to begin with and purposefully limited training. The other two Inquisitors are probably level 2, but far weaker than Rey with no potential for upward advancement.
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>>78366658
>but up until Empire Luke was a Mary Sue too
u fookin' wot m8
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>>78366645
I can help here actually.

In Rey's Survival Guide, she writes about how she uses some old Y-Wing tech to simulate flight and practice.
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>>78366752
Why didn't C-3PO just paint his arm gold?
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>>78365854
This is actually perfect, thanks to Han's reaction

Look at his fucking face, he's so embarrassed and sick of this shit already that he's barely able to keep from sticking his saber in his eyes.
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>>78366808
But he doesn't whine.
HE HAS MOMENTS OF INTENSE RAGE BECAUSE HE'S SO DEEP IN THE DARK SIDE HE'S SUPPOSED TO
YOU PEOPLE ARE RETARDS
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>>78366790
I've been here since the TCW threads. You must be the new one if you weren't here when there was a "Star Wars General" thread.

>>78366785
You're even more useless because you just sit here trying to find faults in others. Such a worthwhile existence.
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>>78366783
You think that's license to say incredibly stupid stuff whenever you want?
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>>78366824
By the same justifications in that post, I forgot to say.
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>>78366360
Doesn't the term Mary Sue imply self-insert?

Who was Rey a self-insert of?
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>>78366824
Mary Sue has lost absolutely all meaning as a word. These days it means "protagonist, usually a woman, who I don't like"
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>>78366832
WHOA WHOOOOAAAAAAA
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Why is it okay to believe the Force was letting Anakin podrace so well or fly the Naboo starfighter on his first time but not Rey being able to fly the Falcon?
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>>78366800
NOT CANON
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If you want to know what a Mary Sue looks like, watch Person of Interest. Root is the textbook fucking mary sue when she becomes part of the good guys.
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>>78366836
That's called whining, anon. He can dress it up in black finery, cold steel halls, great terrible wrath, bitter soliloquies over blackened burnt helmets, with his father dying at his hands, and it can all be amazing and tragic and dark;

He's still fucking whining.
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>>78366832
Because JJ and Kojima are bros
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>>78366865
Because people are holding TFA to higher standards since we all know Episode I sucks
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>>78366791
>Hows the TFA novelization any new insights the movie didn't give us?

Snoke is very very old. Old as balls.

Rey is into Finn. She thinks Poe is hot too.
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>>78365505
>literal nazi
>good
I want to hear his speech dubbed in German
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>>78366884
I don't think you know what whining is.
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>>78366846
I haven't said anything that isn't true.
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>>78366884
No, violent angry outbursts isn't whining.
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>>78365260
was Fel considered a good emperor by the people compared to Sheev?
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>>78366889
The hell is Snoke? Some sort of dark side giant or something?
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>>78366855
Have you seen JJ's wife?
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>>78366234
Well played, anon.
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>>78366884
I consider whining to be like Anakin's IT'S NOT FAIR scene (or Luke's Toshe's station bitching). I didn't get any of that from Ren. There was a lot of him getting butthurt and pissed though
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>>78366912
He's Smaug's big brother
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>>78366441
She ditched her pride and joy pretty fast.
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>>78366902
But
>I haven't said anything that isn't true.
You just did.
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>>78366864
>Oh dear, I seem to have gone both Nuclear and wild.
>BEEPBLEB
>Yes, Artoo, I am bringing this one along as well. Why do you insist upon asking this every time?
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>>78366912
Popular rumor is Snoke isn't a giant at all, and perhaps even smaller than the average person. Just using the hologram's size to compensate for it.

Though it would be pretty cool if he actually was giant.
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>>78366832
It would still be some other droid's arm, just painted gold. It has to be his own arm to count.
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>>78366945
What did I say that wasn't true previously, huh?
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>>78366791
Implied that Kylo Ren knows Rey and she doesn't know how or why. Also, much stronger romance undertones between Finn and Rey.
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>>78366800
In ANH, Own tells C3P0 that he's looking for a droid that speaks the binary language of his moisture condensers..
Threepio babbles a bit, and Own asks him directly if he speaks Bocce.

That heavily implies that Bocce is the name of that binary language.

Your shit is noncanon.
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>>78366943
Well, it couldn't get her off the planet. What more could be done?
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Despite some legit criticisms
Rey>Padme>Leia

Sorry bros
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>>78366898
>>78366909
Complaining about the unfairness of one's circumstances? Hissing to a helmet about how the light side is calling you? Ripping apart a place while you scream and have a tantrum?

I don't mean this in a bad way. I'm not insulting your husbando or whatever, I mean it because I loved his acting and that's how it came across; as a very powerful, very unpleasant guy whining about his lot in life. Scary shit.
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>>78366912
Snoke is one of the things that worries me the most. They had better do something original with him and also not invalidating the threat that was Sheev.
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>>78366966
That you've never said anything that isn't true.
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>Rey spent almost her entire life on her own learning how to survive, defend herself, communicate, and fix things
>A lot of her successes in the movie are luck/things she didn't know were even possible

Why is her strength in the movie such a stretch? It's no worse than Luke being able to blow up the Death Star entirely based on how he used to shoot womprats as a kid.
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>>78366948
Good heavens Artoo, I seem to be standing far too close of this crater.
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>>78366974
I wonder if she could have parked it in the Falcon. It is a cargo vessel, after all.
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>>78366943

The village was exploding, not a lot of time to collect mementos.
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>>78366945
>>78366902
Sith detected.
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>>78366966
That you aren't a shitposter.
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>>78366981
>Padme>Leia
What the actual fuck are you saying right now?
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>>78366969
I think binary/bocce isn't R2 or BB's main language either. Just a lower level one they can speak.

>>78366997
True, but by all schematics, fanmade or otherwise, the Falcon seems to have fairly little actual cargo space
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>>78366981
>Padme>Leia

I hope you mean in looks and not in characterization. I mean, you'd still be wrong, but you wouldn't be holy-fuck-how-stupid-can-you-get wrong.
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Why are all the soldiers, technicians etc. in the First Order humans? In the original movies they had the excuse of budget and the implication that they're speciest. But the budget excuse doesn't work anymore and Snoke doesn't seem to be human, so what gives?
At least the Resistance had more aliens.
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>>78366868
Well, the canon has yet to define an origin (though Servants of the Empire had a character use a Bocce phrase from what little lexicon of Bocce we got in Legends).

Point is, Bocce's not the droid language.
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>>78366864
>Artoo...I'm already a demon
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>>78366989
No shit. It's also the entire point of the Force and potential Force users; they have the entire Zen effort-without-thinking thing the Force does to begin with.
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>>78367024
Wasn't there something about the Empire being xenophobic?
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>>78366969
He asked him if he could do two different things, not the same thing.

You are completely stupid.
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>>78366985
You really didn't pay attention to his scenes, did you?
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>>78367024
Because ebil space nazi homophobe raycists.
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>>78366974
>Well, it couldn't get her off the planet
Rey failed to dream big enough. Strip those Imperial ships for weapons and engine parts, become the best space bounty hunting badass in the galaxy.
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>>78366041
>TFA even has a book protagonist in it.
And you think that was the book protagonist being put into the film rather than a minor film character being used as the protagonist of a book?
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>>78367020
I dunno, never liked the ice cold Bitch in Charge.
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>>78367047
>>78367053
But is Snoke human?
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>>78366969
>>78367022
Beru asked Owen to get a droid who could speak Bocce, and the way Owen was talking to Threepio made it clear it was separate from Moisture Vaporator Binary.

Probably to help her with ordering stuff on Space Amazon or some shit.
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>>78367031
Are you agreeing with me then?
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>>78366987
It would be interesting if the one who gave Snoke the scars was Sidious
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>>78367024
The Arkanis academy that started the FO's ideas back before ANH only used humans because of the Empire's no alien rule. That stayed up until Brendol and his son fled to the Unknown Regions and made the army we see now.
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>>78366989
Luke doesn't fly around like a maniac in and out of a crashed SSD on his first X-wing flight, though.
And doesn't immediately trump Han Solo in repairing his own ship.
And he doesn't speak Wookie.
And Han thinks he's a bit of a dumb kid.

Rey did everything Luke did and more. And everyone loved her.
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>>78367066
And the "literally no character except to pump out Anakin's baby" in charge is better?
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>>78366013
>not liking evil Artoo and Threepio
Get the fuck out of my fucking home.
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>>78366969
And C-3PO tells him that he can program binary locators, which is different from what he wants, but is similar enough.

He then asks him if he can speak Bocce, which is a fucking trade language. He says it's like a second language to him because protocol droids are used for shit like that.
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>>78366889
>Rey is into Finn. She thinks Poe is hot too.
Hopefully Rian will kill any love triangle bullshit.
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>>78367073
Yeah. The 'no shit' was meant to be more of a "Yeah no shit, exactly what you said"
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>>78367047
>Empire is secretly just cheap.
>No way they'll change stormtrooper helmets to fit someone not sufficiently humanoid.
>They aren't made of money with how much the Death Star costs.
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>>78367080
>The Arkanis academy
Are Arkanians canon?
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in the new canon was Yoda talking about Ezra or leia when he said their is another in empire strikes back
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>>78367083
>Luke doesn't fly around like a maniac in and out of a crashed SSD on his first X-wing flight, though.

He survives the trench run. Only one other pilot got out of that alive
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>>78366969
How can a person be so wrong? Apologize.
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>>78366051
>Kessel run
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>>78367024

The Empire was racist as fuck and the First Order is the last bit of die-hard Empire loyalists.

All of the non-human Imperials would have ditched a long time ago. Who the fuck wants to be a second-class citizen on a sinking ship?
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>>78367105
Still Leia.
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>>78367026
NOOOOOOOT CANON
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>>78367105
>Being retarded
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These threads seem to follow a very specific flow when it comes to the movie.
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>The First Order finally seems to have gained common sense and start putting railings
>They don't put on a very long narrow bridge on top of a bottomless pit
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>>78367104
We only saw the academy and the very small surrounding area, so no idea.

>>78367105
Leia.
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>>78367084
She didn't come across as some bitch in charge either, she came across as a straggly hard-bitten professional from a shit planet she got dumped on.

I mean I get that any time a woman is portrayed as the silent badass she's immediately the 'total bitch' but her character was goddamn tame.
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>>78367105
Still Leia you fucking idiot
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>>78367096
Ah, I see now.
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>>78367141
That got me too dude.
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>>78367105

Leia, Ezra's dead
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>>78367141
It bothered me too when I noticed.
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>>78366987
>>78367074

His design changed quite a bit, but he's clearly meant to be incredibly wounded.
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>>78367048
>>78367071

OWEN
>What I really need is a droid that understands the binary language of moisture vaporators.

THREEPIO
>Vaporators! Sir -- My first job was programming binary load lifter... Very similar to your vaporators. You could say...

OWEN
>Do you speak Bocce?

Threepio doesn't answer Owen directly, so he asks again bluntly.
Furthermore, Beru tells Owen specifically to buy a droid that speaks Bocce, but Owen's first question says "language of moisture vaporators".
If Owen wanted a Bocce speaking droid firstly, why asks the actual important question second?

There is nothing in the script that implies Boccie isn't the language of the moisture vaporators.
Let go your noncanon shit
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"Soldiers of the First Order! Today is a GLORIOUS day! It has seen the end of the Republic! It shall soon see the end of the Resistance! With our new weapon we shall - wait a tick, some little tit of a technician is interrupting me... What?... Oh. Oh dear. Ahem. Soldiers of the First Order! I'm being told we shouldn't be standing in this red light. In fact I've just been told we probably all have cancer. Space cancer, apparently. So that's super. Oh, and I'm now being told I should have been wearing protective eyewear. So I'm going to pop down to medbay for some cyborg eyes and you can all chat amongst yourselves. All in all a good day, people."
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>>78367105
Rookie One.
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>>78367177
But Threepio's answer says he programmed binary lifters. Which means he knows binary.

So that makes Bocce a secondary question.
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Just saw the movie. Why are people acting like Rey whipped Kylo? She spent the whole fight running away until he tried to turn her, then caught him off guard and gained the upper hand briefly before the terrain ended their encounter. Hardly what I would call a decisive win.

My problem was that throughout most of the movie she was the one making and executing most of the plans and didn't realy have any backfire on her. She wasn't a Mary Sue and I liked Ridley's acting but I still feel that Finn should have done a bit more and Rey should have stumbled more until that fight at the end.
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>>78367093
It wouldn't be star wars without maximum sexy triangles. Only thing better is if somehow they're all related to each other.
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>>78367206

Actually she ascended to a level further beyond even jedi, which is called Super Jedi, which is how she was able to beat Kylo Ben.
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http://strawpoll.me/6335284
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>>78367202
That's a bit of a stretch, mate.

Going in blind, it's pretty clear that Owen is asking the question twice, since Threepio is a windbag and Owen is very straightforward.
It's in-line for both their characters.

Let go of the EU.
It doesn't exist.
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>>78367141
I guess JJ Abrams felt that having Han get stabbed and then fall over a railing would look weird, who knows
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>>78367177
You're reaching very hard to justify your headcanon.

Bocce is not droid language. It never was, it never will be. Stop trying and go back to /tv/
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>>78366864
>>78367028
>Oh dear, my emotional simulatior has registerd a tragic event that, if it were a physical thing, would leave it in utter pieces. The magnitude of the indignity I am enduring is much like your own traumatic separation from your family, Miss Rey.
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>>78367177
No, Beru says if he gets a translator, that he should get one that speaks Bocce. Meaning Owen was looking for a translator before Beru wanted one that speaks Bocce.
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>>78367206
>Why are people acting like Rey whipped Kylo?
Because any thing other than one guy getting amputated is losing apparently
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>>78367175
Really hope they DON'T go on the 'darkside originating somewhere outside known space' direction.

Also hoping they give Snoke a significantly reduced power level in compared to Sheev (or heck even have him not be force sensitive).
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>>78367206
It came across as three hurt and exhausted people with little experience trying to hurt each other as clumsily as possible, which I felt was a great contrast to the end of the 1st and 4th movies where you have all these great mighty warriors duelling. I liked it, for once everyone seemed sort of sloppy and heavy.
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>>78367206
>she was the one making and executing most of the plans and didn't realy have any backfire on her.

Well there was that one bit where she almost got Finn tentacle raped
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>>78367206
>Why are people acting like Rey whipped Kylo?

Because it fits their "SHE'S A MARY SUE" narrative.
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>>78367177

Bocce isn't a binary language.

There's even a small bit in one of the kids novels about someone speaking Bocce.
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>>78367206
Henceforth you shall be Darth Reyvan.
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>>78367249

Actually the "sloppy and heavy" fighting of Rey against Kylo after she Forces up is meant to evoke the sloppy and heavy fighting of ragemode Luke in the final battle of ROTJ

There's even a shot that directly mirrors him pounding Vader's asshole
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>>78367206
Memes.
TFA has ushered in a new era of memes.
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>>78367202
>>78367235
>>78367245
>taking the bait

You guys are so fucking easy sometimes.
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>>78367270
Not canon.
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>>78366969
>trying this hard and only proving themselves ignorant

Jesus, Kid, at least watch the goddamn movie before commenting. Bocce is not the language of moisture vaporators.
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>>78367288

>published in 2015
>not canon

You're adorable Anon.
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>>78367276
Yeah, that was something I imagined was meant to be called back to as well. I just like that the final Jedi battle of the movie was like that, amateurs and the emotionally ruined just BRAWLING each other and looking for an opening to pop a limb or two off.
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>>78367177
If Luke can speak to Artoo, then by your explanation he can speak Bocce and therefore why do they even need a droid to do it?

The truth is Bocce, BB/R2's droid bleeps, and binary language are in fact THREE separate things.
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>>78366658
>Immediately fucks up and loses the droids
>Gets his shit pushed in by sand people
>Obi-Wan has to rescue him
>Aliens start shit with him in a bar because they don't like him and he has to get saved by Obi-Wan
>Almost fails the trench run until Han comes and saves him

I've literally never seen someone so fucking wrong on what a mary sue is.
>Han dislikes him and has an adversarial relationship with him at first
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>>78367177
Why can't you admit you are wrong? Is it so painful for you that you can't help but flail in the wind while we all leer and jeer at your desperate new and incorrect arguments?
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>>78367177
And people say these threads are good.
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J.J. Abrams confirmed Maz Kanata originally survived and went along to the Resistence base on D'Quar, but didn't add much to the movie, so she got axed.

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/markcassidycbm/news/?a=129210
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>>78367227
>Rey is the top of the poll

B-But she's a mary sue!

I know because Max Landis told me!
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>>78367419
She's still actually alive, though. She's in the novelization after Leia arrives on Takodana

IIRC she's in the group shot at the end, too, before Rey leaves.
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>>78367419

Would it really be that hard to just show her in the room when planning to destroy the Starkiller base?

Because Akbar's throwaway line added so much to the movie right?
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>>78367419

Yeah, that's clearly her offering Luke's lightsaber to Leia.
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>>78367419
By "axed" meaning "leaving those parts out", he didn't say she died
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>>78367442
Her sueness is so strong she is literally a wound in the force.
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>>78367419
She obviously still survived the attack on her hideout, just stayed to rebuild or left on her own ship to do smuggler/pirate shit. Repairs of that magnitude aren't cheap after all.
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>>78365854
Hans face is perfect.

>This is getting stupid.
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>>78367175
Snoke does not seem like your typical Sith

He doesn't get angry, or dramatic, or demand blood for failures. He's calm, rational, and even tempered, in shocking contrast from literally every other sith.

I want him to be a weird sort of Force user, since he doesn't tap into the rage that rules every other one of his kind
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>>78367526
I mean, besides the tremendous empathy it engenders, is there anything that stops a Force-strong being from essentially being a Jedi, using rationality, calm, and self-peace to achieve goals, regardless of their morality?
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>>78367526

And if you read the novelization he's actually really fucking encouraging towards Kylo. It's easy to see how he was lured away because Snoke acts like a father and his real father dumped him on his uncle and ran away.
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>>78367442
Jesus Christ I hate Max Landis, his unfunny snarky hipster writing tone, and his style of self promotion,
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>>78367526
>He's calm, rational, and even tempered
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>>78367562
Do they talk about the relationship between Kylo and Luke.
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>you will never create a secret Jedi Enclave deep in a forest far away from any evil
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>>78367565
Max Blandis more like?
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Theory time:

The Jedi that betrayed Luke wasn't Kylo Ren but instead was Rey's brother.

Luke was so personally ashamed that his own legacy would turn against him, he went into hiding vowing to never train another student. Rey, who was already being trained at a very young age, had her memory wiped and was cast far away from Luke where he couldn't fail her like he failed her brother. Her brother now being a Sith.
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>>78366013
Not liking the dark comedy of triple zero and evil R2 you're not my friend you've just become my enemy.
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Is this movie canon?
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>>78367646
Yes
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>>78367526
Is Snoke even a Sith?
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>>78367646
The show that comes after it is, so yeah?
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>>78367646
Yup. It is four episodes of the TV show glued together.
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>>78367601
Dooku always felt like a grumpy old guy though, and in the cartoon comes off as much angrier, partly because of how they designed his face and also the voice actor. Snoke feels different from that.
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>>78367635
I don't care.
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>>78367631
>Kylo
>A sith
I swear to fucking god
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>>78367526
Maybe he's a space wizard and uses powers like the night sisters
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>>78367419
When i first saw the character in the poster, i thought she was going to be the next Jar Jar being all CGI but more unbearable. Glad i was wrong
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>>78367646
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>>78367700
>reading comprehension
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>>78367707
I knew she wasn't going to be a Jar Jar simply becaue of her voice actres
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>>78367661
I personally don't think so.
>>78367631
I don't think Kylo Ren killed the other Jedi either, but I think he stole the Falcon and left it on Jakku with Rey, who is either his little sister or cousin. Erased his parents memory of her and her memory in general and went off to do what he felt was necessary by joining Snoke.
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>>78366889
Did Rey even met Poe in the movie?
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>>78367792
Nope
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>>78367792
Not once
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>>78367083
Luke blew up an entire battlestation and went toe to toe with Vader's elite hand-picked TIE squadron on his first X-wing flight!
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>>78367749
>>78367707
You just know if George Lucas was still involved, she would have been a racist caricature of an Asian woman, complete with a stelotypicar Japanese accent.
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>>78367565
The dude only has a career because of nepotism. If he weren't the son of a famous director he would still be a nobody writing fanfiction.
>>
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0185819/?ref_=nv_sr_2

>JB-007
>>
>People still struggling with canon

How hard is this with you people?
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>>78367834

And she would have been named Maz Katana
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>>78367181
In the novelization that red light is so fucking bright it blinded the stormtroopers wearing polarized lenses.
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>>78367853
It's almost like anybody can edit IMDb or something.
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>>78367866
While it was a goddamn amazing visual, and it's glorious space opera, I did kind of laugh to myself thinking those poor fucks would probably be blind at the least.
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>>78367181
>>78367866
kek
My thoughts exactly, that shit should turn your retinas to cinders.
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>>78367137

Nothing in the new Canon contradicts the Thrawn trilogy yet, which gives me hope that they might recanonize it at some point. Maybe do an animated adaptation or something.
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All right, let's settle this once and for all. Rey is NOT a Mary Sue.
>but she knows how to fly the Millennium Falcon immediately despite having no flying experience at all
Nope. She had to figure it out, and she almost crashed it. Granted, the next part where she's flying through the nooks and crannies of a Star Destroyer does seem a bit far-fetched, but it's somewhat implied the Force was helping her out. Plus, it's possible she may have figured some things out from the below point:
>she knows tons of stuff about ships
Well, she dismantled ships for a living. She had to learn about ships or starve.
>she's too strong in the Force, and used it without any real training
This one is probaby the most valid point. I do believe there's a justification for this in that Rey is probably Luke's daughter, but that's just speculation. She most likely learned how to use the Force from Kylo Ren while she was trying to read her mind, but she read his mind as he had lowered his mental guard, and managed to reverse-engineer the Force from what Kylo knew. A bit contrived perhaps, but at least there's a justification for it.
>she beat Kylo Ren despite not having any lightsaber experience
On the other hand, this one has the least merit. There are several good reasons why Rey could beat Kylo. One, he was heavily injured. He had been shot by Chewbacca a few minutes before, and got hit by Finn after that. Second, Rey's experience with a quarterstaff could have translated into lightsaber skill. Third, Kylo himself was not the most experienced, as Snoke outright says his training is incomplete.
>she's too good-looking
Well, if my whole "Luke-is-Rey's-father" theory is correct, she can't help it. She's 25% Natalie Portman.
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Does this have an audiobook?
I can't find any info about one.
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>>78367934
>Nothing in the new Canon
>Imperial Palace isn't the Jedi Temple
>Clone Wars weren't evil clones fighting the Republic
>Jedi mind powers are not so OP
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>>78367934
Refresh me on Thrawn coming from the perspective of someone who'd rather hear it from some people instead of glossing over Google and some outdated Wikipedia article for an hour. What's his deal? Why is he not in anything, but all I've ever seen associated with that name is crazed adoration of like some sort of Evil Alien Jesus level?

He is an alien, right? Some Sinestro shade of pink or something I could have sworn.
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>>78367866
More than that, I feel they'd all immediately be getting terminal cancer and radiation poisoning from the outrageous amount of radiation that would be emanating from that beam of star energy.
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>>78367934
Except a lot does. The way clones work, the way the force works, what the Clone Wars were, and the fact that we know when the Empire lost and how.

If they recanonize the Thrawn conflict, it would literally make the First Order a rehash of that.

I loved the Thrawn trilogy, but its time to let it go.
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>>78367992
He's blue
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>>78367992

He's just Space Rommel
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>>78367992
>Why is he not in anything

He is, you tool. Do you think fans just fucking made him up?
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>>78367992
He's Space Admiral Sherlock Holmes who is constantly making GRAND STRATAGEMS and OUTMANEUVERING THE NEW REPUBLIC

personally i think he's a totalitarian jerk but whatever
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Who is the most appealing badass fictional woman of 2015, Jessica Jones or Rey?

I'm choosing Jessica Jones because everything about her is fetish fuel for me, including dat hair, dat pale, and dat swearing.
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>>78368039
...I meant in any movie or show. I think I have my answer.
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>>78368017
>it would literally make the First Order a rehash of that.

They clearly have no problem with rehashes, so what's the conflict again?
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>>78368044

Jessica Jones was awful and the character was the biggest cunt in any form of media I've ever experienced.
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>>78367934
Literally everything does, right down to the fact that Ben isn't a twin, there's no Mara Jade, and the Empire fell apart 30 years before TFA. Thrawn doesn't exist anymore and neither do those books. I loved them, the first Star Wars novels I ever read and they'll always be there in my heart and mind, but it's far past time to accept that it's not the official story anymore.
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>>78368055
>>78367992
This is some very subtle bait, so I don't blame most of you for falling for it.

But I assure you, this is bait.
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>>78368060
I want to retort, but I can't.
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>>78368044
What the fuck kind of question is this? Jessica Jones is complete garbage, a terrible character and a terrible show that exists only to pander to SJW retards with MUH RAPE. Kill yourself.
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>>78368080
Congratulations on having atrocious taste and not ever seeing any actual cunts either in real life or in fiction.
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>>78368138

Nobody who liked that show should be criticizing anybody else's taste. The only redeeming quality was David Tennant's Purple Man.
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>>78368091
No. I genuinely wanted to ask because I could not remember, and then got an answer of the usual worthless kind. Other people helped some at least.

>>78368021
>>78368042
Thanks.
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>>78368084
>there's no Mara Jade

Nothing contradicts Mara Jade's existence.

>the Empire fell apart 30 years before TFA

The Empire fell apart after they killed the Emperor. Thrawn regrouped them for a brief campaign, nothing contradicts that, especially since we know the Empire kept fighting.
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>>78368127
>Caring about SJWs or what they think
>Not furiously masturbating to the rapes

Faggot
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>>78368168
No, you're genuinely bait. You can't expect people to believe that someone as stupid as you exists in real life.
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>>78368157
If it ended with Jessica falling under his power again and being not just mind controlled but mentally broken into his fuck toy, everyone on /co/ would love it
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>>78368190
Please stop.

>>78367992
He's an Alien who's totes the best strategist ever, like so good that he got the Emperor to not be racist against him, so good he can look at a culture's art and know how to beat them, like so good that he gets stabbed by his own bodyguards because he couldn't put 2 on top of 2.
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>>78368174
Except we know exactly what happened to the Empire thanks to Lost Stars, Aftermath, the Visual Dictionary, etc. They literally dissolved a couple years after RotJ due to constant defections and coups and then losing over a third of ALL their remaining forces at Jakku alone. The First Order is what was left of the Imperial military that snuck off and spent 30 years hiding while building up their forces and constructing Starkiller Base.
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>>78368291
Thrawn's campaign lasted for only a few months. You're really so anti-EU that you think that can't fit anywhere in there?
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>>78368225
>everyone on /co/ would love it
and by that I mean I would furiously masturbate to it every goddamned day
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How old was Rey during the Battle of Jakku?

Curious if her abandonment could have had anything to do with it?
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>>78368355
It's not Anti-EU. It's fucking logic. We know what happened. There's no reason to put Thrawn in there, because it would contradictory to what they've already established and what the entire point of the First Order in TFA is about.
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>>78368382
Not born yet

She's 19 in TFA and Kylo is 29-30
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Can someone post the greentext fic where scavenger Rey tried to seduce anon for some speeder parts but anon just ignored her because she has no tits and ass
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>>78368382

Wasn't born. She didn't end up on Jakku until long after.

The battle was basically the end of the world for Jakku.
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>>78368388
>There's no reason to put Thrawn in there
How about it being better than what's there already?
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>>78368388
You canon faggots are the worst.
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>>78368434
Then go read that and wipe your tears. It's not going to happen.

The best you can hope for is an obvious Thrawn expy to be introduced.
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>>78368425
No, actually, it's the reverse. Jakku was almost entirely unpopulated before the battle, and then scavengers flocked there to try and strike it rich from all the military tech, weapons, and parts there were to salvage.
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>>78368388
No, you're pretty clearly just being a faggot about this. The total aftermath of the war isnt entirely set in stone.
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>>78368415
Poe would have much better luck seducing Anon, what with that devil may care attitude and wild hair and sand that is dark enough to excite anon's love of sexy brown, but not dark enough to trigger anon's racism.
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>>78368388
>We know what happened.

We don't know everything that happened.
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>>78364767
>TFA: March of the Resistance
I prefer Kylo Ren's motif, desu. Was used to masterful effect when he was stalking Rey in the Takodana forest
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Can you imagine if Colin ends the trilogy with another ROTJ-tier movie?
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>>78368388
>because it would contradictory to what they've already established

It wouldn't though.
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>>78365657
>since Studio Dice would clearly rather pretend the prequels never existed

>Palpatine's playstyle features his signature leap and Sith scream from RotS
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>>78366189
I never noticed this until Family Guy pointed it out.
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>>78368533

There's two more books about to set a chunk of it in stone, and you'd have to change major parts of thrawn trilogy to work, especially with Mon Mothra scrapping the fleet and how differently clones were established. Mara can be salvaged but it'll be hard to fit all of it.
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>>78368625
I just want to believe they aren't dumb enough to do a 4th Death Star
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>>78367951

Greg Rucka is pretty solid.
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>>78368699
They were dumb enough to do a third Death Star, we need to complete the cycle.

God that hurt so much to type.
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>>78368625
Isn't Rian Johnson writing it Colin's only directing.
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>>78368699
a 4th Death Star would be stupid.

A massive space battle like at the end of ROTJ or the start of EP3 would be fucking amazing.
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>>78367181
By that logic, these guys should be dead
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>>78368744
A GIANT MAGNIFYING GLASS
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>>78368744

>still being this butthurt
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>>78368769
What about Starkiller base do you enjoy?
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>>78368798
Nothing.

So what do these idiots do when they've drained their sun dry? Just abandon this thing they've spent 30 years building?
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>>78368849
They move onto the next one.
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>>78368764
They are dead
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>>78368699
>4th Death Star

Oh no, we're gonna be up to Death Star IX to match the release.

Every movie another, slightly larger, death star.
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>>78368888
They'll have a feet which transforms into Galvatron.
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>>78368798

Not him, but I enjoyed the entire firing sequence and watching the planets pop.

It's a fun superweapon that's nowhere near the worst ones in the series like the fucking sun crusher.
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>>78368918
>Galvatron

I mean Unicron
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>>78368878
Well played.
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>>78368849

It probably has a transportation/hyperdrive system like the death star did. They probably leave just before completly draining it and hope to another sun.
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>>78368764
>PEEEEWWWWWWWW
>Fuck that shit is bright!
>God damn it Hans, why don't you just wear some sunglasses? Or maybe learn to stop looking right at the beam every time we fire it?
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>>78368944
I gotta disagree, it reminded me very much of things like the Suncrusher. Should have had a space battle end in this movie and a Death Star ROTJ homage in IX. But opening with it killing the republic was stupid if you ask me.
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>>78369008
The entire planet has a hyperdrive?
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>>78369029
>I gotta disagree, it reminded me very much of things like the Suncrusher.
But how? It wasn't indestructible by any means. It was no Mary Sue Superweapon.
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PAGE 10 NEW THREAD WHEN?
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>>78369057
Why not? Damn thing had a planetary shield grid. Only thing it didn't have was a full fleet complement.

Not even kidding, the novelization states that it doesn't have a full fleet complement to keep it more secret.
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What race is this?
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>>78369129
Snokean from Snokos V
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>>78369057
It would have ben cool to see that in action.
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>>78369129
We don't know yet
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>>78369129
MetalGear
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NEW THREAD

>>78369310
>>78369310
>>78369310
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>>78369129
There is any REAL difference between inquisitours/acolytes and actyal sith?

Because I always heard the same "they are not sith poorly trained in the dark side" but every depiction of acolytes and now inquisitors use the very same powers than the sith and fight Jedi on equal ground
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>>78369029

Suncrusher was a tiny, somehow super indestructible ship with a hyper drive and no weaknesses. Fucker flew through a star destroyer and had to be tossed down a black hole that just made it irretrievable.

Starkiller was nowhere near that overpowered.
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>>78365604
Where can I get this?
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>>78365470
I liked it but I thought it sounded too similar to KOTOR music.
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>>78365844
We're forgetting Finn's a stormtrooper though.
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