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>go to local comiccon >check out artist's corner >rows

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>go to local comiccon
>check out artist's corner
>rows of artists all selling fan art
>only count two artists who aren't pandering and selling their own original works
the fuck is this shit?
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>>78355866
>the fuck is this shit?

They want to make money.
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>>78355876
I think he meant artist who go there for only show
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>>78355866
It sells. That's the unfortunate truth.
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>>78355866
Welcome to the real world.
You either sell your soul and have cash or starve to death.
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Nothing wrong with drawing something from another franchise or what have you.

Fans of said franchise will be more likely to buy it and if they like your style have a chance of being interested in seeing your other works.

Regardless, money is money and sometimes you have to do that to get any.
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>>78356188
>It sells.
I doubt this shit sells. They really wish it did, but usually that shit stays fully stocked until the end and if you are a "regular" to convention you notice how they always have the same shit to offer conv after conv. Guys like OP at least.
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>>78355876
>>78356188
They want to survive, because it's the ONLY thing that sells reliably.

If you don't make fanart and you don't pander people won't give a single fuck about what you do.
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>>78356246
problem is they don't own the rights to what they are profiting off of, and anyone who legally creates products using a specific IP usually has to pay huge licensing fees
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The entire point of artists alleys at conventions is to do this. That's their purpose, that's why they're at conventions.
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>>78356446
This isn't true. Fanart and even copies to a degree are legal.
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>>78355866
What is your REAL problem?
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>>78355866
>artists managing to make money from what they enjoy
>working within a market for memorabilia and fandom
>expressing enthusiasm for their favourite shit

Merry Christmas OP

many of these artists are pretty much fans themselves and work other jobs - this is what they enjoy doing
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>>78355866
its almost like they want to make money
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>>78355866
>spend money on the space
>post something that normies will buy
>probably make under the desk porn too
Are you mad because they didn't bought your art instead?
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>>78356515
>legal
tolerated until owners tells you to stop.
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>>78356250
sells a hell a lot more than being original
you think Sakimi Chan would make 25k+ by being original? HA
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>>78356446
pretty sure fan art is fair game if sold only as prints and commissions, but even then i don't think any company would be dumb enough to actually sue free advertising
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>>78357341
You clearly don't know how the Mouse operates.
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Could be worse. Could be one of the various geek t-shirt companies that find fan art online, put them on shirts and then sell those.
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>>78355866
>go to local comiccon
Why do you think?
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>>78356250
As someone who sells as cons, fanart always sells more. I hate making fanart so I rarely sell it but it sells more than twice as much as my original stuff.
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>>78358536
You do know there's some bitch on Patreon who does a shit ton of "Realistic" Disney art and she gets like 10k a month right?
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>>78355866
People buying art of characters normally do so for characters they like, if the only exposure a con-goer has to your character is the print you have for sale they probably aren't going to buy it regardless of quality, unless they are in the market for a cool looking portrait of a generic cowboy/ninja/robot/whatever your character happens to be.

If you are an artist that wants to sell your original content you are going to have to get your characters out there first. be it by webcomic, indie comics or some other method.
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>>78357312
Most of these artists have/will/want to work for the companies that they do art related to.
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>>78357323
Why are you guys always so fucking butt hurt about someone being successful?

She's not forcing people. They spend what they want to.
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I do like 10+ artist alleys a year. Original content does NOT sell. At all.

If you're a halfway decent artist, fanart can make you hundreds of dollars in profit at even a small convention. I always HAVE my original content there, and I pitch it to people, but people always gravitate to prints or buttons or stickers of things they already like.
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>>78361456
Original content sells if your OC is actually something. Ask Fred Perry.
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>>78355866
>Pandering ie drawing fanart
>Or Original stuff

Are you retarded?
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>>78358602
>he doesn't know about Rob Granito

People do that already.
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>>78361781
Just completed two more guys! Awesome how I am able to change my style so drastically.
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>>78357312
In the case of the OP image those would probably pass the original works test even though the artists doesn't own the IP, because they're not just trying to pass it off as their own. There's no case there.

>>78356515
Assuming that they pass the original works test or other tests that would obviate ownership of the depicted IP. If they're only really up there because the artists offer sketches of *anything* and they want to give an accurate indication of their style before someone commissions from them, they're not even crossing a line - because they aren't, necessarily, selling the IP as a product; once the artworks are created there's no point to going after the artists even if they are of a given IP (because the cost of legal action is non-negligible and also because of the Streisand effect, and that's assuming it was in any way cost effective to actually find out that someone occasionally draws your stuff at cons) and there's no recourse against the works unless they depict criminal acts.

However, difficult to prosecute effectively is not by any means the same thing as legal. If that same artist's print were to end up on tshirts mass-produced and sold, it's likely most companies would draw the line there and start sending C&Ds.
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>>78362572
The only time I can recall a company stepping in to stop someone was with artist Gary Friedrich, co-creator of Ghost Rider. He sued Marvel claiming the rights to Ghost Rider reverted back to him, they countered with suing him for selling his sketches and advertising himself as "creator of Ghost Rider", and briefly preventing him from sketching and selling at cons.

Eventually they settled out of court for an undisclosed some (Gary got paid) and now they let him sell what he wants.
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>>78361781
How did this autistic manchild ever convince anyone he was a comic artist, enough to get a table at cons? He's a worse tracer than Greg Land, and less literate than your average third grader.
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>>78361652
Or if it's fanservice animu grills.
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>>78362964
He had enough cash to pay for a table, and that's all the credentials most convention organisers need.

I've seen people selling jewellery shaped like cupcakes at a "comic" convention.
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>>78361806
i almost bought that shit thinking it was a huge bootleg print. luckily i read the ad print and then i just reported it as counterfeit.

i'll pay for bootleg but that shit never
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>>78363510
That's actually not a bad idea, there's an entire Art Village in Beijing dedicated to copying great works of art.

Not expensive either, could just have them make a 1:1 replica of a Watterson original for cheap.
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Fanart sells, originals sell much less.

There's a general in cgl about how to artist alley >>>/cgl/8754251 might give you a better idea about how it works
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>>78355866
I love when fucks like you have no idea what it's like to be a working professional artist.
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My problem with artist alleys is that they are all amateur people. There's a reason I don't spend money on them, it's because even though they are all good artists (sometimes), if all they can do is sell me fanart of other peoples characters, I don't give a shit. I'd much rather pay a lot of money for the original artist of a character or comic artist than just some printed fan art.

Other stuff I don't mind like the people who sell movie posters or backissues or some shit.
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>>78355866
Fan art has a much better chance of selling than original stuff you chucklefuck.

People are more willing to buy art of something they're familiar with than something that they've never heard of at all.

>>78361652
Most of Fred Perry's stuff is cheesecake and flat out smut. Not to mention the guy has a comic that has been going for years.

Johnny from deviantart/FA/Tumblr isn't going to have the same luck as Fred Perry because he's far from being as well known as he is.
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>>78363671
i've seen people put up on ebay huge ass art prints of calvin and hobbes art on ebay but it goes for a bunch
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>>78361652
fred perry has been selling porn since i was in dippers in 1982. of course porn is going to sell.
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