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Fanboy Edition

>Upcoming Releases:
http://www.swbooks.co.uk/updates/release.htm

>Newest Rebels Recon Episode:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JrVry8kgyw

>The Clone Wars Legacy Content:
http://www.starwars.com/tv-shows/the-clone-wars-legacy

>Star Wars: Uprising: (/swr/ Cartel: Loth-Cats)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpW6fOEvuSg
http://community.kabam.com/forums/showthread.php?568108-Newx-s-New-Player-Guide

>Star Wars: Commander: (/swr/ Squad: Empire - SheevSquad)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUD2JkBxIJo

>Canon Guide & Timeline:
http://imgur.com/a/wnoIs

>Star Wars /co/ Booru:
starwars.booru.org

>Download links: (Books, Comics, Rebels, Films, etc)
http://pastebin.com/nWsKtSya
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What do I do with myself now?
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>>78323663
Get hype for Rogue One.
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first for Gwen
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>>78323663

Report to Captain Phasma to have your weapon inspected.
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>>78323687
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>>78323710
Ooer
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>>78323687
Way to fuckin' matter, Phasma.
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>>78323629
>op's pic

saved
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>>78323663
Try spinning.
Even TR8-T0R agrees it's a good trick.
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>>78323687
At least we'll have someone that can wear the Chewy suit.
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>>78323663
Wait for more new books, comics, and games to come out between now and Rogue One I guess. God, I wish we could get a Kylo Ren novel or something in the meantime though.
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JJ's Star Trek Reboot was a better ANH remake than TFA.
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>>78323687
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>>78323804
I personally love that movie and consider it in the top 3 best Trek films, but come on son, that's just nonsense.
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>>78323710
How hard is she going to get jobbed on a scale from 0-Hal Jordan and the Yellow Bathtub?
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>>78323804

So was Pirates of the Caribbean: Curse of the Black Pearl.
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>>78323953

Your weapon isn't ejecting properly. It hasn't been lubricated well enough.

It needs to be cleaned and polished.......
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>I... I've brought you y-your saber, master Skywalker
I knew you were coming
It's been so long...
Are you ready to take the next step in a larger world?
>Of course!
Very well...
Rey, did I ever tell you about Evar Orbus and His Galactic Jizz wailers?
>w-what?
Yes, after Evar's tragic death, they reformed into the Max Rebo band, who played when a giant space slug was preparing to rape your aunt.
They were good friends.
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>'I begged for six months': Gwendoline Christie reveals she PLEADED with film bosses to get coveted role in Star Wars: The Force Awakens
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>>78323991
>>78323804
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>>78324012
Oh
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>>78324012
she saved us from Cumberbatch being casted in this role

a real hero
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>>78324011
>tfw the Max Rebo Band will never create any more Jizz because Leia got triggered and terrorist bombed her rapist and killed all of his innocent party guests
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First for the true OTP that is Finn x Poe.
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>>78324068
In the EU Max survived but decided to retire and open a restaurant iirc

>>78324012
She's oddly upbeat in interviews and public appearences for someone who seemingly hardly gets any job offers without begging (GoT is the exception I think, and they basically wanted her because the character is meant to be ugly...), I find this pretty admirable even if it's just an act.
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>>78324064
Cucumberbrunch should be one of the other Knights of Ren imo.
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>expect Phasma to be the next Fett
>she's just a joke character that will inevitably be comedically disposed of in every movie
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>>78324120
Brokeback Planet when?
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>>78324147
Maybe Hux, but he looks too much like Kylo
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>>78324152
...So she's the next Fett then?
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>>78324147
cumberbacxh should have been Kyle
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>>78324152
She's the daughter of Baron Rudor from Rebels
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>>78324152
>in every movie
You can see the future?
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>>78324152
Which is what Fett was.

She is exactly like Fett: cool armor, joke in the movies, will get good extended materials
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>>78324152
That's what Trench was and everyone likes Trench, though. I too wished they'll actually utilise the fact that Christie looks intimidating as fuck, but honestly Trench > Fetts and Zuckuss was the best bounty hunter anyway.
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>>78324152
>gets tackled by Chewie once per movie
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REMINDER

Phasma has the imperial accent

Rey has the Imperial accent

Phasma is old enough to be Rey's mother...especially since Rey is probably supposed to be younger than Ridley.

(Yes, that's not know that's not how accents work but maybe she'll remember her)

Yeah it probably won't be true but it fits funnily enough for a mother candidate
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>>78324167
>implying Hooch Pandersnatch could pull Kyle off
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>>78324154
Lewd!

but seriously, when?
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>>78324181
yes

the future isn't a definite line or path, it's a river that breaks up into many rivers that all end up into different lakes (outcomes)

ask me anything. and It may come true
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>>78324167
>cumberbacxh should have been Kyle

He looks even less like Ford or Fischer.

Driver has a similar nose and lips to Ford.
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>>78324211
The question is this: Given that God is infinite, and that the universe is also infinite... would you like a toasted teacake?
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>>78324182
Most Fett EU material was just mando wank, Zuckuss, 4-LOM and IG-88 all had better stories in the old canon than he did.

I'm upset because I really hoped Phasma will be just SW version of Brienne.
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>>78324199
>If I'm raised in england, I'll have an english accent
accents arent hereditary
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>>78324199
Rey and Hux are the children of Luke, calling it now.
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>>78324011
What is up with Luke and Ben having the same hair as Anakin in Episode 3?

It's going to be weird when Anakin's ghost shows up in Episode 8
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>>78324199
>Phasma is old enough to be Rey's mother

Christie is 37 and Ridley is 23. So no. Like it could be wiggled, but it would be an arbitrary asspull.
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>>78324237
yes, but only if the grinch doesn't come around this christmas

if he does, then I'll definitely love pancakes with my hot pockets
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>>78324199
We don't know Phasma's age and most characters Gwen played were younger than she is (she played a teenager in her early 30s).
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>>78324269
Oh, very well. Here's my second question: Would you like a crumpet?
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>>78324244
>>78324268
>Being too stupid to finish reading a post

FYI the characters are not always the same age as the ones portraying them, the characters in ANH were not the same ages as their characters, they were younger.

Rey is probably meant to be a teenager, maybe 20. Phasma might be 40 actually.

It would create the whole "Luke fell in love with an imperial" thing
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>>78323687
>played the devil in some adaptation of Faust

If I knew that earlier I'd be even more disappointed by how shitty role Abrams ended up giving Phasma in the plot
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>>78324242
A Kylo fan girl who dies?
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Was Kanan #9 ever storytimed?
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>>78324369
I think so but it got lost in movie discussion
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>>78324347
shouldn't it be Hux fangirl? fits better from what I remember from GoT
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I never liked Star Wars but apparently the black character in it really pisses off white people

Thinking about getting into SW just for this reason alone. WHich movie should I start with?
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Gonna close the poll soon, looks like the first cover variant is gonna win.

If you want to use any of the other variants, they will be included in the MEGA.

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1CnA5F4p5GfKY_7AhaOsFRksRurG5aB-j76qUMGJ5Gpk/viewform
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The fans have spoken. We have our new OTP.
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>>78324436
>I never liked Star Wars but apparently the black character in it really pisses off white people
Are you deliberately trying to be retarded? You might as well think the KKK includes every white person in existence as a member.
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>>78324436
Phantom Menace, his name is Jar Jar
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>>78324436
Doubt that's a good reason to watch seven movies.

But you can always go in chronological order
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>>78324436
1.New Hope
2. Empire
3. Return of the Jedi
4. The Force Awakens, in theatres now.
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>>78324436
Episode 3->Empire Strikes Back->Episode 1->New Hope->Episode 3->Force Awakens->Return of the Jedi->Episode 3
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>>78324458
>>78324470
Its just funny because most of the white nerds that grew up watching Star Wars grew up to be /pol/ racists and retards

Now someone they hated is the main character of their favorite series. Sweet poetic justice honestly
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>>78324416
Kylo fits better because Remly was higher up
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>at opening night for TFA
>literally everyone talking about the Jar Jar meme
>first showing gets let in
>everyone screams "JAR JAAAAAR!"
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>>78324188
Phasma is Trench's adopted daughter, it's obvious. There's no way Trench would just die, he ultimately became just a brain in a silver droid body and escaped into the unknown regions, presumably taking care of some dumpster baby at some point. That baby eventually grows up and decides to join the FO and bids farawell to her caretaker.

She nevr forgot about him, though - Phasma wears chrome armor because that's how she remembers the biggest authority figure in her life.
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>>78324436
watch it in this order

>clone wars
>episode 2
>episode 1
>the clone Wars
>rebels
>4
>ewoks
>xmas special
>5
>7
>6
>rebels again
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>>78324509
Fuck off retard. Wanting to watch something because people are angry is no worse than the reverse
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How does this make you feel?
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>>78324456
>influx of TFA fan art
>it's all from Tumblr

This is some monkey paw shit
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>>78324546
>>>/pol/

back to your racist containment board
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>>78324550
>huge breasts

Gwen is flat do some basic research reeee
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>>78324551
SAVE US JAPAN!
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>>78324561
Nothing I said was racist but you lumping everyone who's white and enjoyed the OT as racist is
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>>78324509
So far everyone i know that watched the movie loved Finn and Poe, Rey is great but there's the Mary Sue issue, that i don't really care since is Star Wars after all, but others don't like it as much as the other two.
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>>78324545
>>xmas special
you heartless bastard
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>>78324551
>look up TFa on tumblr
>first result is that weird guy obsessed with shipping those two girls from Thunderbolts and inflation porn who fled from /co/

Didn't exect him to hate Phasma.
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>>78324608
You cant be racist towards white people
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>>78324600
sweatmanwipingforehead.jpg
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>>78324509
>most of the white nerds that grew up watching Star Wars grew up to be /pol/ racists and retards
Again, completely false.

Why are you so willfully stupid?
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>>78324154
First scene of the next movie has Poe tending to Finn's wounds.
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>>78324551
What do you expect when its an american film?

there is some stuff up on pixiv though
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You know what's bothering me the most about the TFA fallout? Literally every "reviewer" on the internet is sucking this film's dick. Like it's to the point where no one even wants to entertain the idea that it had flaws.
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>>78324064

I thought that Bazinga Crumplesnoot was being considered for Hux and turned it down, not for Phasma.
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>>78324600
How can Luke resist that?
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>>78324600
>Sub Phasma
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>>78324600
>>78324550
Where's that anon who said all Phasma nsfw will be ooc submissive bullshit or extreme fetishes

It's all his fault
I just want my soft femdom, fuck, pretty tall women are rare
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>>78324145
>I find this pretty admirable
"aww Gwen! you think you're a proper movie star!"
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>>78324456
That's far hotter than it has any right to be.
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>>78324649
>>>/pol

I can taste your stormweenie tears from here
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>>78324672
people seem to ignore the fact that its episode 4 all over again except the bad guy kills han instead of obi wan
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I'd watch/read a cat and mouse spin-off with Finn and Phasma

For.... Reasons
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>>78324645
>look up TFA on tumblr
>get this
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>>78324695
>For.... Reasons
take memes back to tumblr
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>>78324672
There are flaws, but they don't stop it from being the first watchable Star Wars movie in several decades
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>>78324672
It's only flaw for me was failing to establish the relationship between the rebellion and the new republic.
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>>78324600
>submissive
>bobbplate

You can project your whitebread fetishes over every single other SW girl, for fucks sake, why this
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>>78324695
>"Smack" who's the boss now?!
>"Smack" uhh, you are FN 2187.
>"Smack" That's Commander Finn to you!
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>>78324509
Considering that Lando Calrissian was both a popular and prominent character in the original trilogy you have no idea what you are talking about, and think that /tv/ is a valid demographic.
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tfw my gf actually liked TFA and she hated every other SW episode she's seen

>Said "yum" when she thought Finn and Rey were about to kiss

What does this mean?
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>>78324775
my wife said the same thing when she watched with her bf
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>>78324646
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>>78324775
it means she doesn't know what a good movie is and watches BLACKED
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>>78324775
You're being cucked
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so im reading reviews and i guess its a good thing im only renting Star Wars: Battlefront
i apparently rented a fantastic, looking okay, playing half a game with obnoxious DLC
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>>78324797
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>>78324797
>>78324816
Sadly im not lying
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>>78324672
Welcome to the first few weeks of every movie ever
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>>78324672
It's much better than people expected it to be. The only major flaw is how they executed the starkiller base idea and how unsatisfying its destruction was. Everything else is either great, good or at least okay. Han's death scene for example is one of the greatest scenes in the saga.
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>>78324814
>>>/vg/star wars
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>>78324814
Aye, only tolerable with friends
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>>78324509

>Its just funny because most of the white nerds that grew up watching Star Wars grew up to be /pol/ racists and retards

Hooray for racial stereotyping!

But for real, you're an idiot. The original trilogy gave us Lando Calrissian, played by Billy Dee Williams. He was added in Empire Strikes Back and is the smoothest motherfucker in the galaxy.

The prequels gave us the most badass member of the Jedi Council, Mace Windu, played by Samuel L Jackson.

And of course Darth Vader has always been voiced by James Earl Jones.

Stop trying to imply that every single white person on the face of the planet is secretly plotting to reinstate chattel slavery and the slit the throats of black children just to drink their blood for shits and giggles. Most of us just want to live our lives, same as everybody else. And besides, I don't even like the taste of blood.
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>>78324841
hahahaha you WISH
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>>78324690
I like them together, you can stop pretending to be retarded now.
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Anybody read this? Not really sure I like it so far. The subject matter is pretty interesting, but I don't like the Bendis-esque writing style and how there's 4 million POVs.

While we're at it, what are some other good Star Wars books? They don't necessarily have to be canon.
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>>78324775
I know what she wants

>>78324850
stopped reading after >racial stereotyping

back to your containment board
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When did Zeb make an appearance in TFA?

Wasn't one of the characters supposed to appear?
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>>78324870

It's shit. The writing style is garbage and the story doesn't really go anywhere.
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>>78324721
You mean 1 decade?
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>>78324820
Assuming this by some miracle isn't bait I'm sorry to let you know, anon, that you're applying present day american race dynamics to the entire world in every time period which is, to put it lightly, an imperialist standpoint, hisotircally often associated with racism, or at least not caring about oppressive politics elsewhere.

But then Americans hardly consider Slavs and Irish human to being with
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Okay, so I decided to watch Star Wars Ewoks, what episodes are worth watching? Or stand out?
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>>78324879
Honest question

How old are you?
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Guys stop replying to the obvious troll.
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>>78324889
All I said is she said "yum" when they were about to kiss

What does your post have to do with anything I said?
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>>78324888
What are you implying?
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>>78324775
Needs to get Phasma'd
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Does anyone else think the prequel trilogy, although shittier, has a more unique storyline than the original trilogy?
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>>78324925

He's implying that Revenge of the Sith was watchable and/or good.

Which it was.

If you honestly think TFA was better than ROTS, you've proven an incredible ability to entirely shut off your brain for 2 and a half hours and simply not think about anything that's happening on the screen.
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>>78324920
he confused you with the guy whining about racism probably
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This lightsaber fight felt more real than any other fight in the saga.
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>>78324943
>a more unique storyline

??? you mean it isn't the heroes journey???
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>>78324942
>>78324816
>>78324797
>2015
>still using these shitty reddit images

/co/ pls, you're the only board that still uses these bait images. Samefag probably
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>reviewers saying Poe's character showcases that Oscar Isaac has near limitless potential to grow as an actor
>all of Poe's dialogue is either exclamations or single sentences

I don't get it; he did good but his appearances were relatively short compared to Boyega's.
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>>78324942

>admitting that you would be banned if you stated your age

WHY DIDN'T YOU JUST LIE

YOU HAVE JUST TACITLY ADMITTED YOU ARE UNDER 18

HOW FUCKING STUPID ARE YOU
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>>78324870
Yes, unfortunately. Worst book I've read in a long time, the author is straight up trash.
You should read Lost Stars and Battlefront: Twilight Company instead, both from the new canon and they're fantastic.
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>>78324966
I agree

it felt like the way episode 5 felt, an amateur with no real training fighting against a master but with modern movie magic
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>>78324973
>letting Reddit appropriate our culture
fuck off, m8.
I bet you think they invented rage comics too.

>>78324942
are you pulling some sort of reverse ruse, m8?
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>>78324600
Shiiieeeeeeet
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>>78324152
But she was the next Fett
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>>78324955
Kill yourself
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>>78324942
gitb&
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>>78324943
At least it was different

There's nothing bad about VII, but nothing special. I mean, even Antman was slightly more interesting
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>>78324942
rekt
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>>78324893
I wasn't aware there were episodes of Star Wars Ewoks that were worth watching or stand out. Out of the early cartoons I usually heard more praise for Star Wars Droids.
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>Retards thought Snoke was a giant even when I told them otherwise for weeks
>Explained kongolizer to them and they still didn't accept that they were retarded

Feels good to shit on them.
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>>78324976
He has incredible charisma. Every single scene with Poe was amazing and the chemistry between him and Finn worked very well.
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>>78324955
>If you honestly think TFA was better than ROTS
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>>78324966
why did Kylo keep pounding his wound?
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>>78324672
>Like it's to the point where no one even wants to entertain the idea that it had flaws

My local paper gave it 2 1/2 stars.
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>>78324966
It's refreshing to see a saber fight that isn't all flips and acrobatics that are too fast to register
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>>78324870
Don't read it, listen to the audiobook. The book is a bad combination of present tense and a weird love for sentence fragments.

It's much better as an audiobook because that's how it reads.

>>78324925
RotS was quite watchable.

>>78324943
I do. The OT is the classic Hero's Journey, which has been repeated thousands of times.

The PT is a Shakespearean Tragedy, which isn't seen as often.

>>78324967
that's the OT you numbskull
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>>78324678
I'm right there with you. I'd commission some but sadly I'm a poor fag
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>>78325037
Sinking feeling he's the same species as Maz
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>>78325056
>The PT is a Shakespearean Tragedy

HAHAHAHAHHA
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>>78325046
I assume it's to make it hurt more, and to consequently piss him off more.
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>>78325023
>Kylo Ren
>Not the most interesting character in Star Wars

Fucking pleb
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Why do people think that Poe is part of the main trio?

He is more of a side character like Wedge.If he was part of the main trio he would of at least met Rey.
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>>78324870

In Legends, I recommend starting the New Jedi Order series. While some installments in the series are bad, I'd say the series averages out to be pretty good, at least over the books I've read so far (I just finished Star By Star).

In particular, watch out for Balance Point, because it's painfully dull but unfortunately necessary. Edge of Victory Part II had an enragingly stupid Mara Jade plotline, though it made up for it with the Yuuzhan Vong shaper plotline.
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>Rebel fleet is all X-Wings
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>>78325074
makes sense

assuming he's an actual sith, unlike the inquisitor from rebels, I mean.
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>>78323710
>blaster inspection day
>never clean it
>she won't even give me a half portion for it
>calls me a tr-8r
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>>78325071
To play the doubles advocate, that's what it was clearly intended as.
It may have failed in execution, but the intent stays the same.
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>>78325046
Pain = dark side power, I guess.
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>>78325037
In fairness, a lot of sites ran with that
>Serkis says "I was on a platform 25 feet up and they had these speakers to make me sound bigger"
>YOU HEARD IT HERE FIRST SNOKE IS 25 FEET TALL!!!!!
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>>78324966
Yeah, it was perfect. I loved the prequel fights, they were always fun to watch, but this was just so satisfying and marvelously constructed.


Imagine what it must feel like for Kylo Ren, who may never have been in an actual Lightsaber duel before, to essentially live out one of the best parts of his Darth Vader fantasy.
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>>78324369
No, it wasn't.
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>everyone claps whenever a star wars veteran gets introduced
>Han
claps
>chewie
claps
>R2D2
claps
>leia
not a peep
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>>78324976
They were all great IMO

Even Rey's possibly wooden acting for the beginning of the film (they may have filmed in sequence) for the desert was appropriate since she was soul-crushingly numb with routine and boredom.
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>>78325097
Seeing a lot of people on here defending the Prequels for what "they tried to do"

Who cares about the intention, when there was little to no work put into making them actually succeed in doing just that?
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>>78325071
It is, though. Just because it was poorly done doesn't mean that's not what it is.
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>>78325097
>doubles advocate
>doubles
Nice try.
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>>78325084
Considering the popularity the character has gotten with relatively little screentime, it's almost a given he will have a bigger role in the sequels.
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>>78325071
Well that's the intention, which to be honest I like. It's rare to see a major Hollywood film end on a downer like that.
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Is Kylo Ren even a sith? Or is he just a Dark Jedi?
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>>78325046

Consensus theory seems to be that he's trying to draw on the pain to ramp up his anger and draw on the dark side more effectively.

Which seems to me like a pretty shitty fanfic-tier exploit to introduce for the dark side, but I guess it's what the fans think they want to see.
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The prequels weren't that bad
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>>78325044
>tfw we'll never get a TFA era cartoon series and are just stuck with that Rebels trash
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>>78324955
Feel free to die right now, anon.
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>>78325071
>I failed english class twice
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>>78325058
only people with shitty fetishes are rich, it seems
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>>78324981
Is Twilight Company good? I'm wary about books based on video games ever since I was tricked into reading the Metal Gear Solid novelization.
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>>78325145
they were so good they made star wars embarassing for over 10 years
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>>78325084
They advertised him as part of the main trio. Also, he will get more screen time now that Han's dead.
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>>78325130
>Thinking popularity on /co/ or /tv/ means anything

They dont take the opinions of people who post on an anime image board for cartoons seriously when they make these movies.

How delusional are you?
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>>78325135
Probably still at Trainee status and hasn't earned the Sith title yet.
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>>78325163
A novelization isn't the same as side materials. The only way is for you to plunge in and check it out yourself. It won't kill you.
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>>78325169
nice use of spoiler tags asshole
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>>78325075
Why was Pissy McHelment piss such an angry whiny faggot throughout the whole movie?
>Those temper tantrums
>Only real kill is Solo when he had a cheapshot
>His Megaboner for gramps Vader
He could've been much more intimating. If the following movies don't acknowledge that he's inexperienced and demonstrate him grow as a villain I'll be disappointed in his performance.
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>>78325135
The Sith are extinct now.
Darth Big Guy's line has ended.
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okay so i have a theory about episode 8 and it ties in rebels.

so i think luke met up with Ezra at some point when he was training new jedi and ezra is the one who knows about the old jedi temples and tells him.
so luke is finding all these old temples and even discovers that degobah where yoda was living was an old Jedi temple and that's why he experienced the vision there much like ezra did in the other jedi temple.

now as Luke keeps finding these temples he is sending his padawans in to pass the test like ezra had to but he doesnt know that there are some old sith temples and he sends Kylo into one. this is a sith temple with the dormant general snoke and he planted a seed in kylo and slowly turned him and then told kylo how to bring him back

now after rey meets up with luke i feel like hes gonna be like i cant train anyone ever again cuz hes to butthurt you and hes gonna send her to find ezra and learn from him

let me know what you guys think about this
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>>78325115
>Imagine what it must feel like for Kylo Ren, who may never have been in an actual Lightsaber duel before, to essentially live out one of the best parts of his Darth Vader fantasy.

Not too great I guess, since he got shot by Chewie after he killed his own father.
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>>78325174
>Implying
There were no Sith in the film, JJ explicitly said so and it appears he was telling the truth since they aren't called Sith.
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>>78323687
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What if Max Von Shadow's character was actually Kanan or Ezra?
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I'd say it goes TFA > RotS > RotJ = Empire > AotC > ANH > TPM
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>>78325135
He's explicitly not a Sith, though I guess since he was technically training to be a Jedi it's not technically wrong to call him a Dark Jedi.

The specific group he belongs to is the Knights of Ren, but we know very little about them and what it is that makes them different from Sith. We know even less about Snoke's Force discipline, he's apparently not one of the actual Knights of Ren but has control over them (or at least he has control over Kylo, who is the "master" of the Knights of Ren). Snoke isn't a Sith either but we don't know what he is.
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>>78325196
>going on /co/ star wars thread without watching the movie
you asked to know that han dies
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>>78325130
The script for VIII has already been written.
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>>78325161
Could use her Galaxy of Heroes model in the /aco/ drawthreads
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>>78325135
Definitely not a Sith. Aside from the fact that he's not even evil, he doesn't seem to be trained as one. No Darth title for him or Snoke. I don't think Snoke is one.
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>>78325240
>AotC > ANH
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>>78325227
That is one legitimate plot hole to be honest.

Bowcaster makes motherfuckers fly even when it misses, Kylo should have been blown off the railing and fell down there with his father. It would have made his appearance in the woods spookier too
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>>78325244
>Snoke isn't a Sith either but we don't know what he is.
he's probably compensating with that hologram
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>>78325239
Honestly, either one of them could probably take Kylo right now, let alone when they got older.
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>>78325239
He's not. We already know he's not Force sensitive and just pat of a group that revered the Jedi.
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>>78325247
I already saw the movie but im just looking out for the community

Spoiler tags are there for a reason. /co/ is one of the tightest boards on 4chan we should have some respect for eachother.
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>>78325273
>and fell down there with his father. It would have made his appearance in the woods spookier too

And have Solo Lives fan theories flood the internet for the next year and a half?
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>>78325240
>I watch movies for pretty colors and flashing lights
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>>78324966
MY favorite part about both Finn and Rey's fight was there was no flips
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>>78325264
Official guide says Snoke recruited him because he has a balance of Dark and Light in him. Doesn't sound very Sith if he were supposedly one.
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>>78325115

kylo ren has been in a lightsaber duel, though. the visual dictionary says the jedi order is no more because of his skills with a lightsaber.
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>>78325296
>4chan
>respect
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>>78325055
Yes, because those were experts in lightsaber fighting in the prequels compared to the amateur shit we saw in TFA.
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>>78325240
>ROTS and AOTC over ANH
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>>78325144
Lords of the Sith shows Vader's dark side power came from the pain of his memories pre-armor, and the loss of his limbs requiring going half machine. That gives him a ton of anger, which he focuses on with the force to get his power.
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>>78325298
They showed you Leia's reaction to let you know he was dead, silly.
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>>78325312
>>>/pol/

You are probably a racist too
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>>78325257
I should give her a go. Been too focused on getting Dooku in game.
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>>78324870
Thrawn Trilogy
The Wraith Squadron trilogy of the X wing series
Lost Stars
Twilight Company
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>>78325273
The bowcaster is a piece of shit weapon in Battlefront.
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>>78325163
Very. It's basically Band of Brothers mixed with Starship Troopers set in Star Wars. Gritty, grounded war story taking place between ANH and RotJ. The main character, Hazram Namir, is complex and interesting and there's a nice ensemble cast of other Rebel soldiers that serve with him. I really liked the tone and feel of it, the action is good and it's well written.
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>>78325340
go to any non-porn board and see if you get the same warm welcome
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>>78325340
Bruce Willis is a ghost.
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>>78325331
The same reaction, mind you, that Yoda felt as Order 66 happened and Obi-Wan felt as Alderaan was blown up.
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>>78325205
He wasn't supposed to be intimidating. Did you even pay attention while watching the movie? He's a powerful but immature fanatic who desperately wants to be evil and badass, but he is still too inexperienced to achieve his goals. He is basically the anti-Luke Skywalker. That's why he gets his own villain journey where he becomes stronger and more mature, just like Luke in the OT.
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From the Star Wars TFA novel

>“It took her a moment, long enough to bring to bear the rifle she was carrying, before she recognized the trio and lowered the weapon.

>Her amazement at seeing them was no less than theirs had been when they had spotted her.

>Running to Finn, she threw herself into his arms. Neither could hug the other hard enough or long enough.

>The embracing pair finally separated, if only to look into each other’s eyes.

>“Are you all right?” a relieved Finn asked.

>“What happened?” His voice darkened.

>“Did he hurt you?”“Never mind me,” she said.

>“What are you doing here?”He smiled softly.

>“We came back for you.” She tried to find something to say to that, something worthy of the sentiment and the risk they had undertaken. She failed miserably.

>Chewie, however, had something of his own to add. Whatever the Wookiee had uttered caused tears to well up in her eyes.

>Having never found himself in such a position before, Finn was unsure how to respond. Knowing well her inner toughness, he wondered what Chewbacca had said that could have inspired such a reaction.

>“What’d he say?”She sniffed and wiped at her face.

>“That it was your idea.”
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>>78325379
what the fuck bro spoilers
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>>78325381
No, that was the "My beloved fell in a hole and hurt himself but is okay" reaction, it has subtle differences and nuances compared to the "I feel death" reaction. Don't worry, you'll learn.
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>>78325244
I think at this point the question is whether it even makes a difference. They're not part of the actual Sith Order and aren't called Sith, but we don't know enough to even tell what makes them different.
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>>78325325

Right, but Vader's pain is like emotional, spiritual, psychological.

This Kylo Ren punching trick implies that a dark sider could get a power boost from stomping on his own toes whenever he gets the chance, or wearing a cilice or something. This is like Yuuzhan Vong pain worship, or that albino freak in the Da Vinci Code.
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>>78325408
Duke Vincentio is actually Friar Lodowick, who disguises himself to unearth the hypocrisy of Angelo.
Pompey also ends up being an assistant to Abhorsen after Lucio backstabs him.
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>>78325273
The scene was supposed to show us how strong Kylo is, but since no one paid attention, people think he's a weakling.
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>>78325117
Leia got claps and cheers in my theater along with all the others. I think the only moments in my theater that wasn't related to the return of a Star Wars veteran or the introduction of the Millennium Falcon that got equal amounts of applause (not counting the moments met with laughter like BB-8's thumbs up and the NOPE troopers) were Rey succeeding at the Jedi mind trick, and Rey managing to force pull Anakin's lightsaber out of Kylo's force grasp.
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>>78325432
>They're not part of the actual Sith Order and aren't called Sith, but we don't know enough to even tell what makes them different.

No Sith to pass on that knowledge = no Sith tricks or knowledge. That means no Lightening powers or super subtle Sith mind manipulation, Sift saber techniques or Sith crafting.

They're just kind of bad guys with red lightsabers. They're on the "Dark side" but not explicitly sith.
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>>78325256

And she's already in it.
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>>78325447
Given that it obviously didn't give him much of an edge, it might be Kylo trying that hoping it'll work because he's tired, angry and frustrated. It's like hitting an old TV that's not working, it's not going to do shit but people will do it anyway.
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>>78325478
No one in my theater clapped for Leia or Luke, only Han+Chewie and the Falcon.
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>>78325310
They want you to think he killed the other Jedi, but I think it was Snoke who did that. Or Rey
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>Be a stormtrooper doing patrol with your stormtrooper bro.
>Hearing yelling and see sparks flying out of a room you know your boss is in.

What do you do?
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>>78325273

>It would have made his appearance in the woods spookier too

>Rey: "No! It can't be! How did you get here before us?"
>Kylo: "Ah..."*punch* "uh, how did I, JJ?"
>JJ: "Well ya got me. By all accounts, it doesn't make sense."
>Kylo: *punch* "Oh well." *punch* "Back to business."
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>>78325071
>HAHAHAHAHHA

What's so funny? That's exactly what it is.

>Shakespearean tragedy is the classification of drama written by William Shakespeare which has a noble protagonist, who is flawed in some way, placed in a stressful heightened situation and ends with a fatal conclusion.

Anakin Skywalker is the noble protagonist(which he is most of the time, he's trying to do what's right for those he cares for). Therein lies his flaw, his inability to let go of attachment. He's taken from his only family, his mother, at a young age and becomes the member of the Jedi Order, where he is told to forget his attachments and control his emotions and is taught by Obi-Wan, who strictly follows the ways of the Jedi and allows little room for Anakin to adjust to this new lifestyle at a reasonable pace.

In AotC, things get even more stressful when he reunites with his childhood crush and begins harboring feelings for her again. They eventually form a relationship and he also loses his mother. He loses an arm to Dooku, then the Clone Wars break out, putting even more stress on him as he is promoted to Knight and is put in charge of a legion of clonetroopers and sent off to fight in a war.

Things come to a point when Padme reveals she's pregnant and he begins having troubling visions of her dying in childbirth. He seeks help from Yoda, who doesn't really tell him what he needed to hear, instead opting to tell him to basically not be attached.

He then seeks out Palpatine, who begins to tell him the wonders of the Dark Side and how it can save her. Anakin is eventually seduced to the Dark Side and in a fateful decision sides against the Jedi. The Dark Side now taking hold, Anakin blindly wipes out the Jedi Order. He duels his former master and "dies" on Mustafar, and is replaced with Vader.

Whether or not you like the execution of the prequels, it's all there. This doesn't even factor in the stress of teaching a padawan in TCW only to have her not rejoin the order.
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>>78325239

His name is Tekka or whatever, probably gonna have a younger actor pays him in Rogue One.

Or maybe Abrams really wanted Ming the Merciless in his film.
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>>78325485
But if their motivations and MO turn out to be essentially the same, that means the differences are minor and honestly negligible. We need to know more.
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>>78325470
I doubt that, he can unconsciously resist concussive force that can throw people but struggles with normal people?

Nah, it's a goof on their part. Having him get his side blown open and go hurtling into the trench with Han and then appearing in the woods would have shown how tough he was far more effectively than

>HRWWAAAAAA
>Translation: YOU KILLED MY BEST FRIEND, I'M SETTING MY BOWCASTER TO LOW TO SHOOT YOU NOW
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>>78325084
Because he's connected to Finn, who is not with Rey on the Island?

What, do you think the entireity of 8 is going to be about Rey training?
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>>78325528
Turn 360 degrees and walk away
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>>78325528
Do a 360 and walk the other way
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>>78325447
>>78325501
I think he did it to numb the pain, but doing that kind of thing to become more pissed would fit his insane personality.
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>>78325540
Whatever the case, he was completely wasted in that role
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>>78324678
>implying phasma vore wouldn't be the hottest shit
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>>78325531
Typical bad guy shenanigans
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>>78325555
weren't all the shots that sent people flying done at close range though?
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>>78325555
>>HRWWAAAAAA
>>Translation: YOU KILLED MY BEST FRIEND, I'M SETTING MY BOWCASTER TO LOW TO SHOOT YOU NOW
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>>78325561
>>78325563
But if you do a 360 you're walking right towards Kylo's tantrum. Unless you're moonwalking away.
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>>78325611
Chewie wasn't that far from Ren when he shot him. I'm sure he had several shots of similar distance
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>>78325531
>>78325587
*teleports behind them*
pshhh... nothin' personnel...kid
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>>78324568

That's not Phasma though, that's an OT trooper.

Apparently, it's TK-421 before ANH.
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>>78325637
He was on another level above Ren and more than a typical hallway distance away from him. All the Stormies that he shot were very much closer.
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>>78324550

Surprisingly aroused.
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Tidbits from early drafts.

>Rey would originally meet Luke in Jakku and he'd guide her in the ways of the Force.

>McGuffins included Darth Vader's remains, a weapon buried in the remains of the Death Star, and a scroll unraveling secrets of the Force.

>Poe would die.
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>>78325273
>Kylo should have been blown off the railing and fell down there with his father.

Just another father and son moment this franchise is famous for.
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>>78325665
I know you're trying to rationalize it, but I'm sure your point is meaningless.

It also implies that it can't kill people at "normal" range then since a normal blaster would have still killed.
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>>78325677

>Poe would die.
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>>78325391
D'awww

How do people understand Chewie anyway?
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>>78325677
>Poe would die.
Well thank fuck that got cut.
I couldn't bear seeing another husbando die. ;_;
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>>78325677
>Tidbits from early drafts.

Tidbits of toilet paper from your ass.
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>>78325730
Still two more movies for him to do a heroic sacrifice.
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>>78325724

It's a language.

You can learn to understand a language even if your vocal cords can't speak it.

How do you think Chewie can understand everyone else?
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>>78325391
>tfw Finn didn't get this reaction from her in the film
>tfw no girl will ever see you this way
Prepare my ship Captain, I wish to leave this Asteroid Feeld at once
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>>78325273
That's honestly genius compared to what we got.

Because we could have had another Kylo moment with him down there with Han's body or seeing visions or something as he recovers from the fall.
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>>78325553
The motivation isn't enough to make them Sith if they don't know shit about being Sith. If they haven't obtained any of the Sith trade, than you're just some kind of a Sithaboo wanting to be like the pros.
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>>78325724

In real life there are African languages that are just clicking and asian languages that are highly tonal.

droidspeak and wookiee are not unreasonable.
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>>78325724
I'm more curious about how people understand astromechs.
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>>78325677
>Rey would originally meet Luke in Jakku and he'd guide her in the ways of the Force.

Too much pottery
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>>78325558
What the hell was Finn's purpose in the film? He didn't seem connected with any of the other characters.
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>>78325763
How was it in the movie anyway? I'm drawing a blank.
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>>78324870
Worst book of the new canon, from the old EU you can read Thrawn Trilogy, from the new EU i recommend Lost Stars
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>>78325637
How come Ren could force-freeze that blaster shot from close distance in the beginning of the film, but couldn't react to Chewie's potshot at him?
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>>78325724
Most people in the Star Wars universe seem to understand at least a dozen different languages, and force sensitives seem adaptive enough to be able to learn hundreds (if not thousands) of different languages really quickly. That or Jedi have a force power to understand just about anyone and anything, I forget which is the case.
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>>78325811
He's connected to the First Order as a whole.
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>>78325790
I never said anything about them actually being Sith, but that it would be very disappointing if they basically behave just like them.
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>>78324199
Best theory about TFA yet, tired of people talking Sith incessantly.
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>>78325820
It was a lot less emotional. The dialogue is the same and they hug, but none of the romantic implications of that passage at all. And then Han breaks it up saying "Escape now, hug later."
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About the New Republic, the First Order and the Resistance.
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>>78325848
He had just killed his father on Starkiller Base compared to killing people he cared little for on Jakku.
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>>78325841
Wookieforce.
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>>78325802
People can learn to understand Binary.
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>>78325790
I think what he's saying is that if they're not called Sith but behave exactly like Sith, from a storytelling perspective there's basically no difference.
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>>78325841
At the start of the movie, he was fresh and alert.
When he got shot, he was clearly emotionally fucked up, due to the fact that Han didn't even try to push him away despite everything, and him realising he wasn't the biggest bully in the playground anymore.
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>>78325841
He was distracted after murdering his own father.
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>>78325802
It's less about what they say and more about the tone. If R2 sounds angry or scared, then Luke can tell because he hears the tone. Besides, protocol droids like Threepio and viewscreens like the one in Luke's X-Wing can translate exactly what's being said.
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>>78324870
I've only read Scoundrels but I really enjoyed it.
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>>78325866
/tv/ tells me Disney decided to downplay the romance because of the Boyega Backlash. Do they speak true?
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>>78325917
Yeah but what about Rey and BB8?
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>>78325931
as a denizen of that place, remember that /tv/ says many things.
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>>78325931
>believing /tv/ trying to downplay forced interracial anything
That's not something Disney would actually admit to doing publicly.
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Who's going to get the "I love you" / "I know" callback.

You all know it's coming.
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>>78325888
Basically. With the Inquisitors for example, we know they're nowhere near as powerful and don't have the same level of powerlust that the Sith have. Even so, they're still Sith servants so they fall under the Sith umbrella even if they're not actual Sith themselves, so any similarities are understandable.

If you introduced a different group that's unrelated to the Sith you should have a few major differences between them.
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>>78325931
LOL, no

Since when was a Star Wars romance resolved in the first film?
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>>78325980
Snoke and Kylo
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>>78325980
I was expecting it during Han and Leia's last scene on D'Qar.
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>>78324249
Ben? I haven't seen it yet, is Ben Larry Steve Kenobi in it?
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>>78325811
He's the glue that brings everyone together. He helps Poe escape, helps BB-8 complete his mission, causes Rey to have to leave Jakku which causes Han to find the Falcon again. Finding the Falcon is what brings him back to Leia and ultimately to his son, brings Rey to Maz and the Lightsaber which awakens her to the Force. He is the catalyst for it all, literally the will of the Force being carried out unwittingly by this one man who has a crisis of conscience and sets in motion the whole story.
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>>78325980
Ren and Rey
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>>78325980
>Finn: I love you.
>Rey: Okay.
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>>78325888
Well yeah. From a movie standpoint the New Order is functionally the same as the Empire. The Knights of Ren are functionally just the Sith, and the Resistance are functionally just the Rebels.

In what ways motivationally do the Sith really differ from the Knights that we know thus far?
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>>78325980
Phasma and Hux
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>>78325980
Finn to Poe
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>>78325954
Again, BB8 sounds sad and lonely so Rey can tell he's sad and lonely, not to mention BB's non-verbal cues.
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>>78325874
W-why didn't they just get the Empire to surrender unconditionally or something?

Like seriously this is like Liberating France and going, 'eh, let's just make a deal with the Nazis and hope they and the Russians kill each other'

Star Wars really is the story of how bad guys win because good is dumb.
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>>78326034
Poe would respond "me too"
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>>78326022
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>>78324672

No one's denying it has flaws, but the positives far outweigh the negatives for most of us. I'm not too bent out of shape about it basically being a remake of ANH, but if the sequel is a remake of Empire then I'll probably get pissed. I can't really fault them for playing it safe and sticking with the template for the first outing though.
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>>78326019
Yeah but the way the movies setup, all that stuff could really just happen by itself without him and narratively the movie would be absolutely no different. That's just him taking responsibility and intervening in all that with extra steps, the fact that he did it all by incident sort of negates him having any purpose in the film.
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>>78326027
The Sith had a rule of two because they constantly murdered each other in the past. (in the EU at least)
There are seven knights of Ren and Snoke. Maybe they aren't backstabbing lunatics like the Sith?
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>>78326057
>Star Wars really is the story of how bad guys win because good is dumb.
No, because you're honestly behaving very stupidly right now.

What happened with the New Republic allowing the FO order to form because they didn't want to keep going to war with them and made a treaty is the exact same thing that's happened countless times through human history and should be aware of already.

Right down to a band of "terrorists/freedom fighters" being formed to harass the newly recognized state.

THIS SHIT IS GOING ON RIGHT NOW EVEN, HOLY FUCK I WANT TO PUNCH YOU
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>>78324844
People's hopes and dreams were riding on the movie. Outside 4chan almost no one expected it to be bad.
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>>78326055
Am I remembering things wrong, or wasn't it BB8 who told Rey where the base was?
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>>78326057
Parts of the Empire were kinda whiny bitches about it and held onto their equipment as soon as the chain of command broke down. Since those parts would've raised hell and shot up everywhere if they were forced to compromise, the republic just let them be.

It's more like if Germany was defeated by Nazi colonies, camps and holdouts still existed throughout the middle east but it was too much effort to go to war with them and delay peace back home.
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>>78326127
That's probably why they're such pussies. No fear of death or betrayal means they aren't using the dark side efficiently. Ren has to backstab some of his knights so they can stop being little bitches already.
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>>78326129
>/co/
>History of Mankind and Present Affairs
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>>78326112
No, literally none of that would have happened without him. Poe would have died on that ship. BB-8 would just continue living with Rey in the desert. She would never become a Jedi. Luke would remain in exile. Han would continue being a smuggler with Chewie and trying to ignore how sad he is. The Falcon would continue to sit there rusting and unused. The New Republic and Resistance would be obliterated. It ALL happened because the Force manifested in his choice to run.
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>>78326129
Calm down mate, I'm just pointing out the shortcomings of a fictional government.
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>>78326127
Given that Kylo's the leader of the Knights despite being half trained, I suspect Snoke keeps them in line by dangling the carrot of advancement in front of them, while holding the stick of being too strong to fuck with.

With Luke out of the picture, he couldn't have forseen how this would backfire spectacularly.
It also means that it's almost certainly killed off the idea of hundreds of jedi surviving order 66 and past RoTJ, since they'd be powerful enough to challenge the knights. It also means we won't have to retread the same fucking concept time and time again, but sadly means Ezra, Kanan and Ashoka are almost certainly fucked or will retire.
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>http://spinoff.comicbookresources.com/2015/12/18/watch-harrison-ford-crush-a-fans-dreams-and-lego-millennium-falcon/

Awwe shucks.

Damn based ford
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>>78326156
He was
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>>78326263
Well how the fuck was Rey able to get what BB8 was trying to say?
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>>78326020
>People are actually shipping it

Guess I shouldn't be surprised.
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>>78326222
> Poe would have died on that ship.
Poe could pilot it himself just fine. Having a partner to deflect those auto-miss turrets is just a bad excuse to have Finn around.

>BB-8 would just continue living with Rey in the desert. She would never become a Jedi.
The only thing Finn does is somehow get BB-8 to reveal the location of the resistance. The stormtroomers still would've come after it anyway, she could've piloted and got onto the Falcon and everything else would've played out the same.
>Luke would remain in exile. Han would continue being a smuggler with Chewie and trying to ignore how sad he is.
> The Falcon would continue to sit there rusting and unused.
Until Rey came in and offset this.
Rey is literally the reason all of that happened, Finn's presence was just incidental.
> It ALL happened because the Force manifested in his choice to run.
This is just woo, from a viewers perspective and narrative standpoint behind the 4th wall the same could be said for Rey. Why didn't the "force" just manifest to her and have her do the same things? He's not really needed, his motivations to run away don't serve as a catalyst for anything in the story.
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>>78326022
Rey: I Love you.
Finn: WOOO
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>>78326312
>Poe could pilot it himself just fine. Having a partner to deflect those auto-miss turrets is just a bad excuse to have Finn around.
He would have died on the Finalizer, not the TIE Fighter.
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>>78325980
BB8 and R2D2
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>>78326261

What an asshole.
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>>78326325
>Rey dies
>Ghost blowjob WOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>78326261
That's not staged at all
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>>78326261
You know that was a scripted sketch, right?
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>>78326312
>Poe could pilot it himself just fine. Having a partner to deflect those auto-miss turrets is just a bad excuse to have Finn around.
Poe never would have made it to a fighter and died as he fled unless that thing had a hyperdrive added (unlikely)

Finn is Leia, their choices lead to the downfall of the Death Star. The End.
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>>78324436
>I never liked Star Wars
What the fuck? Where are you even from?
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>>78326297
Isn't it implied that she worked with a lot of droids before, thus she can understand them.
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>>78326312
>All this desperate racism
It's 2015, time to get educated
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>>78326312
You really don't get it. Honestly, how is this too complicated for you? Poe would have died on the Star Destroyer, there was no escape for him without Finn. Rey would never have left Jakku without meeting Finn and being forced to because they were shooting at him. This is really simple stuff, anybody with a basic understanding of how the Force works in the rest of Star Wars should be able to see how all of this was pre-destined to happen because of him.
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>>78326432
>it's 2015
>only two more weeks before we're allowed to do whatever we want
GET HYPE
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>>78326030
I'd actually like to see a subplot resolving around Hux getting paranoid about Phasma after her garbage compactor adventures and trying to stop her from actively leading the troops that'd lead to this. Not going to happen, though, and we'll be lucky if they both won't just die to make sure only Kylo gets any development
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>>78326438
Why does it matter who started it?

This is a movie meant for entertainment. Finn being the catalyst is purely a plot device. Do you just want to feel like a special snowflake because hes your favorite character?

What exactly is the point you are trying to make?
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>>78326504
You're a retard. You got corrected for saying retarded things. Entirely your own fault that you couldn't understand a simple film. Just leave kid, you obviously don't belong here.
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>>78326312
>>78326407
so.. the new movie is what, 6/10? i just watch it and... yeah.
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>>78324532
>one guy says "It's jar-jar!" when everyone's clapping for LUCASFILM LTD
>no one else said anything remotely stupid otherwise afterwards
>while waiting to be let in the theatre, some fan-boys were talkin extended universe, old and new
>the more vocal of them exhibited his very back-and-forth taste by approving highly of some not-Vong-or-thrawn post ROTJ stuff, then some canon novels, and then Swtor shit, and back to canon stuff
>mfw hearing that roller coaster of opinions for 40 minutes
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>>78326504
His point is that you're an idiot.

Finn was essentially Leia+the droids combined from ANH. If not for them going down to the -DESERT PLANET- and running into -HERO- and getting onboard the Falcon the -SUPERWEAPON- would never be destroyed.
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>>78324600
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>>78325555

Here's a thought.....

Kylo has better armor than the regular troopers? So while it penetrated, it lost a decent amount of force....

or it merely winged him.
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>>78326432
>Make narrative criticism
>YoU Wacist!
It has nothing to do with that. The marketing campaign makes him out to be the main character but he hardly does anything but stumble about throughout the whole movie. If he grew and matured he might be like Luke, but that was Rey's role in TFA.

Having an entire character whose motivation is running away and being entirely incompetent gets pretty annoying.

>>78326438
Think of it this way, in any other movie without a concept like 'The force' we would've called that a contrivance at best or asspull at worst.
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>Finn and Poe are the new Bucky and Steve
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>>78326571
Movie was great, stop trolling.
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>>78324545
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>>78323629
I liked that they've discontinued everything that kept me interested in Star Wars for over two decades for a bad movie that was more or less a fan-adaption of A New Hope.

Oh wait, no I don't.

I'm legitimately disappointed in this film. It's not just that they got rid of the EU, I had hopes the TFA would at least be fresh and interesting. And for the record, Kylo Ren is the worst villain in the history of Star Wars. And yes, I'm including Anakin "not the younglings" Skywalker in ROTS.
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>>78326639
Best bros that retarded girls like to draw fucking?
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>>78326057
>bad guys win because good is dumb.
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>>78326666
>worse than Jango, Dooku and Grievous

no
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>>78326666
>being this much of a contrarian, Wook shitter
Garbage taste, just leave. The film is GOAT and Kylo Ren is the best character.
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>>78326562
That wasn't even me anon, way to go. Nice rebuttal, throwing out insults like that.

>>78326607
>Finn was essentially Leia+the droids combined from ANH
This would be fine if he didn't get the most screentime and wasn't treated as the main character. As is it's like we spent most of the movie following one of the static side characters who did less than anything other than be a plot device.

Imagine if in the prequels we spent the majority of the movie having Jarjar stumble onto saving everyone and being the catalyst of the movie. And the orders were to go AFTER BB-8, not Finn. Rey had Finn. They would've gone after her anyway and she could've got the instructions from the droid and boarded the Millennium falcon, met Chewy and Han, got herself captured, rescued herself and defeated Job-Ren all the same.
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>>78326621
Doesn't make sense no matter how good his armor is, he should go flying from the force of it. You don't wear armor and get by a car going 100mph and simply hunker over instead of going through the air.

>>78326626
>The marketing campaign makes him out to be the main character

Nope, just the lightsaber wielder in order to hide Rey as the Force user. But we already knew Rey was the official main character before the film even came out

>Think of it this way, in any other movie without a concept like 'The force' we would've called that a contrivance at best or asspull at worst.

Nope, Finn made choices and became a hero along the way like many characters in fiction have. The End
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>>78326621
>or it merely winged him.

Or you could say Tis but a flesh wound!

Kylo Ren is after all a Knight who says NI
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>>78326562
>>78326607
Im not even the guy you were fighting with

Just calling you out for being a retard.

You think each character is supposed to fit an archtype that matches an OT character.

Finn isnt Han, Rey isnt Luke, Poe isnt Leia. Finn is Finn, Rey is Rey and Poe is Poe. You are a moron and honestly you should try to have sex.
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>>78326794
Dank references, bro
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>>78326769
I'm more upset that he's this skilled jedi knight but is dumb enough to get caught offguard by wookiefire, than the fact that it didn't blow him away.

It was a weird choice making such a clusy, immature and ineffectual villain, especially when the others (Like Phantasm) had so little presence.
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>>78326735
I liked Dooku's saber and Christopher Lee chewed the scenery.

Sue me.
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>>78326735
You forgot Jabba
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>>78326796
>Broadcasting your idiocy this blatantly

You're honestly just a very stupid individual
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>>78326796
Who the hell was Poe? He was in the movie for like ten minutes.
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>>78326806
I'll sue you for being a retard.
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>>78326763
>>78326796
You are both completely unintelligent. You got BTFO. Just go back to /tv/, you aren't welcome here and are doing nothing but shitposting because you can't handle being proven wrong.
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>>78326805
>but is dumb enough to get caught offguard by wookiefire

He was emotionally compromised.

Like Han's internal organs.
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>>78325009
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>>78326805
>I'm more upset that he's this skilled jedi knight but is dumb enough to get caught offguard by wookiefire
He was still caught up in the moment of killing his own father and what it was doing to him. We know he's both good and evil according to the official guide because he's got a balance of light and dark in him and he even talks about the pull to the light he feels. He needed some time after killing his only father and he was defenseless, it made sense.

>>78326796
You're an idiot, Finn's character is fine and makes perfect sense within the film.
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>>78324324
She gonna be disgraced for her failure. End up a drunk on mos eisly and happen to find an old boba fett and become Finns main antagonist.
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>>78326857
>Thinking Finn's character is pointless
>Implying you're 18
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>>78326735
>Jango
Eh, he's better than Boba in that he actually gets to do some cool stuff.

>Dooku
Its hammy Christoper Lee, that's always fun

>Grievous
I'll give you this one, even more dissapointing coming after Clone Wars
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Jesus, this is the most complex shit I've ever tried to play. I can't keep up with all these controls.
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>>78326900
Dooku was in the movie for 3 minutes total, and you like him more than Kylo? The fuck did that faggot even do besides have a cool voice and chop off Anakin's hand?
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>>78326894
you really are stupid arent you?

When did I ever say Finn was pointless?

my only post in this thread is
>>78326796

I just said that the new characters are original and not trying to copy the OT characters

Do you have reading issues?
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>>78326917
Don't you have anything better to do with your time? Your life must really be shit.
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>>78326888
Fett is dead in the new canon. For good this time. Swap him for Zuckuss, 4-LOM or Bossk.
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>>78326877
>You're an idiot, Finn's character is fine and makes perfect sense within the film.
Not really. He was a fun side character who got the hype and screen time role of a main character. The entire film should've been about Ren.

Like how the hell she can be so knowledgeable bout Force Sensitive abilities when Luke and Anakin had to be taught those for years but she just, stumbles upon them apparently?

>>78326894
He's not pointless, the movie just gave us less to be excited about than we went in expecting.
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>>78326949
You're embarrassingly stupid, the movie is an intentional rehash. Done well admittedly, but the characters DO share INTENTIONAL similarities to the original trio

THIS WAS OFFICIALLY STATED

Kill yourself.
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>>78326978
>Like how the hell she can be so knowledgeable bout Force Sensitive abilities when Luke and Anakin had to be taught those for years but she just, stumbles upon them apparently?

WE ARE GOING TO GET THIS POST FOR TWO FUCKING YEARS

WE DO NOT KNOW, IT WILL BE EXPLAINED, FUCCCCCCCK
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>>78326959
No he isn't, he's implied to be alive in Aftermath and Pablo has said they consider him to be alive post-RotJ.
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>>78326947

A lot of his screentime was a CGI bobblehead on a stuntman's body.
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>>78326888
She's going to have some monologue pleading guilty but Hux/Snoke will deem her too useful to punish, it'll be explained she takes a more prominent role to make up for that. That's what seems like the most likely option to me at least.
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>>78327010
Troll confirmed
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>>78326998
This. Why is the characters having thematic resemblances to the old cast a bad thing? It fits with the whole idea of "Passing the torch onto the new generation" and all that.
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>>78324966
Wouldn't they be blinded from having strong light so close to their eyes?
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>>78324436
Machete Order:

1. New Hope
2. Empire Strikes Back
3. Attack of the Clones
4. Revenge of The Sith
5. Return Of The Jedi
6. The Force Awakens

>But what about the Phantom Menace?
You COULD watch it, but now with 'The Force Awakens' it has rendered it totally skipable and unnecessary. The only true casualty from that movie was Jake Lloyd, he didn't fare well, poor guy.
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>>78326900
>Its hammy Christoper Lee, that's always fun

Actually kinda seemed like a bored, directionless Christopher Lee.
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>>78323687
>Finn, is there a garbage compactor on this level?
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>>78326978
>Like how the hell she can be so knowledgeable bout Force Sensitive abilities when Luke and Anakin had to be taught those for years but she just, stumbles upon them apparently?
We already know this.

>Luke
-Born into wounded Force spectrum
-Sith shrine attacking him and all other lightsiders
-Knows nothing of Jedi and Force
-Gets a friendly introductory lesson
-Hand is held each time he uses the Force
-Doesn't know anything outside of Ben

>Rey
-Born into universe with a healed Force spectrum (at balance)
-Sith shrine is dead
-Knows of Jedi and the Force from stories
-Trial by fire experiences the Force as its forced upon her through visions and Kylo connecting with her
-Forced to use the Force violently in order to survive
-Knows of techniques in stories that she can try

Their circumstances were completely different.
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>>78327051
that poor bastard never stood a chance
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>>78326998
Wow this is really funny

shouldnt you be in some Sheev thread on /tv/ now?

/co/ is a board for people with respect. You need an anger therapist because something about you is not right. Only people with serious mental deficiencies would talk like this.

I really feel bad for you. Im not even in this argument, dont even know what its about but I noticed your posts and its very embarrassing for you. Good thing this is anonymous for your sake
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what did she mean by this?
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>>78326649
it's.. the exact same plot
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>>78326998
Yeah I think the point was a message both in the Star Wars story and the meta. The original trio has become too old to continue the fight. It is Star WARS after all so there is always going to be a conflict. This time though it might be best to let the next generation take care of it, hence this film was more like the OT but with the older guys passing the torch to the next group of heroes to keep the fight alive.

>Meta:Harrison's too damn old to keep doing this shit, Carrie's still a nervous wreck, and Mark can't do this alone.
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>>78327100
>le superweapon anh rehash meme
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>>78327051
>Attack of the Clones anywhere but last place.
Opinion invalidated
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>>78327087
So hearing stories about Jedi and the force now = knowing how to use advanced jedi techniques that only Jedi Masters even in the Old Republic with a balanced Force can use?
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>I've missed you
>Not all of it was bad
>some of it was...good

Was this a nod to the SW fans after the OT or am I reading too much into it?
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>>78327012
>he's implied to be alive in Aftermath

No, all we know is some damaged Mandalorian armor was found that could be his.

>and Pablo has said they consider him to be alive post-RotJ.
Wrong again. Pablo said the LSG considers him to be "Schroedinger's Fett". He's both alive and dead in the sarlaac until a story pulls him out or confirms him dead.
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>>78327139
>Jedi Mind Trick
>advanced jedi technique

she was probably taught it day 2 in jedi school
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>>78327100
All stories are the same plot since thousands of years ago. Do you even heros journey or Joseph Cambell?
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>>78327089
There's a interview of him on youtube talking about his experiences in high school and college and dude is just rocking back and forth like a PTSD victim. He really did get fucked over.
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>>78326946
that is more the fault of the times

Really complex flight simulators were really popular at the time

there's a reason they are simplified now
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>>78327100
Similar. Not exact.
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>>78327092
>what did she mean by this?

"I get a percentage of profits of merchandise sold of Captain Phasma"
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>>78324152
Yeah, seeing her take that Wookiee cock was a bitch much.
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>>78327051
>actually seriously recommending Machete Order
Why? It doesn't work. Especially for someone who hasn't seen the films before.

Star Wars is meant to be seen linearly. And TFA hasn't rendered TPM invalid.
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>>78327171
She probably has an incredibly high Miniclorian count, remember?
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>>78327128
>>78327185
>>78327204
and how can you consider something that is not even being original as great? low standards?
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>>78327139

You're forgetting about things like
-Force being healed so lightsiders are more powerful
-Belief being part of how well you use the Force

Rey threw herself into it after realizing all the stories she likely fell in love with were true. She was allowed to try repeatedly with some techniques until she got results.
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>>78327190
I blame myself more than anything. I don't mind that it's so complex, in fact I kind of appreciate that. It looks like it can be really fun and engaging once you get the hang of it. I just don't think I'll manage.
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>>78327112
>Carrie's still a nervous wreck

The poor lady had at least once incident on camera where she showed confused thinking and disorientation. I imagine they cast her daughter to keep her close by on set.
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>>78327244
ANH wasn't original either and it's still great.
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>>78327244
its plenty original, it just has similar elements to anh's plot structure
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>>78327194
>>78327137
Hidden, didn't read
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>>78327229
When Maz was talking about the force a small part of me feared she'd mention midichlorians.
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>>78327244
>and how can you consider something that is not even being original as great?
Anon
ALL STORIES
ARE THE SAME
SINCE 10,000 BC
This is the central tenant of The Heroes Journey. We've told all the stories possible, because they already exist in the collective subconscious of man.
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We can all agree?

V>IV>VII>III>VI>I>II
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>>78327228
>And TFA hasn't rendered TPM invalid.

Oh yes it does. Did they explain the force this time using midi-chlorians? Nope.
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>>78327293
It doesn't make Midi-chlorians uncanon just because they didn't explain or mention them.
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What's with all the prequel wank itt?

>>78327289
jesus christ
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>>78327273
>>78327090
>>78327155
>>78327194
Hidden, didn't read
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>>78327289

> III>VI

Jesus Christ.
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>>78327319
These threads are filled with 15 year olds who only grew up with that shit and autistically try to defend them.
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>>78327228
>Star Wars is meant to be seen linearly. And TFA hasn't rendered TPM invalid.

It's really not. 4,5,6,1,2,3 is the only order that actually makes any sense due to the way George essentially wrote the prequels backwards - information is relayed in the prequels which calls back (or "forward") to the original trilogy, and assumes a knowledge of those events.

There's also the issue of it spoiling the Vader/Luke reveal, not that anyone in 2015 doesn't already know that, and that Leia and Luke are siblings.

Other things like the fact Jango Fett gets so much emphasis purely due to the fandom's love for Boba, but later we barely see Boba, and when we do, he doesn't really do anything.
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>>78327256
Its fun once you get into it and shit is flying everywhere and you realize

YOU HAVE NO SHIELDS

And you start screaming...well, I said fun, not calming...
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>>78327244
Because ANH wasn't literally made to be a modern day version of the same stories Lucas grew up with
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>>78327346
Hidden, didn't read
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>>78327289
V>IV>=VII>VI>III>I>II
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>People still don't get midichlorians aren't the cause of the force.
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>>78327281
>ALL STORIES ARE THE SAME
i don't see Luke bending the elements or fighting the fire nation

>>78327261
where exactly did you see the same plot being used

>>78327272
they had too many similar elements. What's even the point of having that film?
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>>78327293
>This one part of the movie nobody likes and isn't mentioned COMPLETELY de-canonizes another movie

Don't be retarded anon
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>>78327387
>Because ANH wasn't literally made to be a modern day version of the same stories Lucas grew up with

You need to seriously think about what you just said. Because ANH was literally made to be a modern day version of the same stories Lucas grew up with.
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>>78327397
avaunt, ye of normalcy.
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TR-8R spinoff series when
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>>78327415
>i don't see Luke bending the elements
He's using the force and bending reality with his mind.
> or fighting the fire nation
Who are an evil empire.
Just like the empire.
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>>78327360
i can tell
>>78327388
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>>78327415
>ALL STORIES ARE THE SAME
>i don't see Luke bending the elements or fighting the fire nation
But both stories are Hero's Journeys

>>78327468
I was saying that sarcastically anon
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>>78325046
Probably to stay conscious, but pain does fuel the Dark Side.
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>>78327485
fuck off to /tv/ retard
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>>78327485
Why weren't all the elite stormtroopers as STRONK as him? I didn't see any other beating the shit out of others with hyper tonka weapons that badly.
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>>78327293
>Oh yes it does. Did they explain the force this time using midi-chlorians? Nope.
You think TPM is only there to explain the Force? No.

It shows us the state of the galaxy in the prequels and how it functions. It introduces that the Sith were thought extinct and only just now revealed themselves. It showed that Anakin had attachment problems even from a young age and that Qui-Gon would've been the perfect Jedi Master for him, had he not died.

Also

>2015, nearly 2016
>still misunderstanding midi-chlorians

>>78327364
Just because the PT came out after the OT doesn't mean they have to be watched that way. I've seen chronological order many times, 2 times recently with a marathon stream this one dude from the thread hosted. The saga works just fine, I never felt like any information was missing.

If you watch in release order, it spoils the Palpatine is Sidious reveal in Episode 3. This is an actual thing if you watch in order for your first viewing.

Jango Fett getting emphasis doesn't make the OT necessary first. Instead, we see Jango and a young Boba, and later see an adult Boba following his father's line of work.
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>>78327090
>Some guy smashed you into tantrum by simply using a 4chan function.

You were defeated, anon.

Hidden, didn't read.
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>>78324775
>not shipping Finn with Poe
You're gf has shit taste, senpai, well, she did choose you.
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>>78327485
He'll show up as a force ghost to tutor Kylo

>>78327513
>not appreciating the galaxy's greatest hero
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>>78327530
you lost kid, get over it
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>>78327415
Hidden Fortress
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>Snoke
>Kylo
>Hux
>Phasma

Having now seen TFA, what villain will Benicio Del Toro play in Episode VIII?

Are they going to introduce another darkside user?
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>>78327489
>He's using the force and bending reality with his mind.
"bending reality with his mind" you just made that up, and even if true, bending reality =/= bending elements

>Who are an evil empire.
arguably they're not evil, and even then they have different goals, methods, beliefs, culture and weapons.
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>>78327155
>>78327194
based mods cleaning up these 15 year old shitposters

BTFO'd
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>>78327495
Thrawn
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>>78327495
>But both stories are Hero's Journeys
what happens in the hero's journey? who is it that the hero fights?
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>>78327565
Other Knights of Ren most likely.
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>>78327568
You're just nitpicking details to find differences when they are essentially serve the same elements in the story.
"Big chosen hero has to fight the evil bad guys to liberate people." Is the crux of it.
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>>78327568
>Who are an evil empire.
>arguably they're not evil
Okay now I know I'm dealing with an idiot
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So is he the best pilot in the entire Canon so far?

>that one shot of him destroying a ton of tie fighters
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>>78327565

He'll play the famous bounty hunter Sicario/spoiler] of course.
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>>78327591
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monomyth
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>>78324966
>allowing a non-Force sensitive to hit him in a lightsaber duel
Fag
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>>78327618
he ain't no Wedge
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>>78327485
Why didn't they clone him for their army?
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>>78325092
That's because the Starkiller destroyed their entire fleet when they destroyed all those planets/moons
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