NEW CLIP FROM STEVEN UNIVERSE S2B
How can you stand watching a clip or a preview for a Steven Universe episode? That's like, half the episode spoiled for you, and then there's nothing left to enjoy when it comes out for real.
>Rose Quartz is sent by Pink Diamond to establish the colony
>once the basic shit is set up, Yellow Diamond's crew comes and builds a Kindergarten
>Rose doesn't want to kill Earth, so she shuts shit down
>Blue Diamond sends in a diplomatic envoy
>the envoy joins the rebellion
>PD rolls in to find out just what the fuck her army is doing
>Rose duels PD, kills her
>it's war, motherfucker
>it isn't really cost effective to keep losing so many gems for one dirtball, so Earth is declared unfit for colonization
>YD's crew sets up the Cluster experiments, packs up their shit, drops a "farewell and fuck you" nuke, and goes back to Homeworld
>Rose spends the next 5,000 years letting apes buttfuck her in the pussy
So... what's the Deal with White Diamond? We kind of have some idea of what quarter each of the other Diamonds oversee, but there's not even a hint about White.
before you whine lesbo pandering
Rose killing Pink Diamond makes a lot of sense to me, almost more than her being PD.
The only thing that makes me doubt it is the Serious Steven mural. There's a good chance it depicts the Diamonds, considering the four prominent figures are colored white, pink, blue, and yellow.
What if Ruby and Sapphire back then aren't as exagerrated as they are now?
Like thousands of years of constantly being Garnet have skewed their personalities to the point where they're not-quite functional operating independently.
Lamar was my second suspect, and you're probably right.
I am excited about Zuke, but sad we aren't getting her uncomfortably attractive Amethysts.
I do love Molisee/Villeco, but Molisee loves to go off model and you get some weird drawings sometimes. Search you heart. You know it to be true.
On twitter someone replied with incredulity to someone doubting whether or not Rose Quartz was a Quartz with "it's in her fucking name" essentially.
Though if Rose Quartz is another mass-produced gem, a battlefield medic/commander class, I have to wonder whether or not her line is still being made?
I knew there'd be a reason to have this.
Well, it's possible White is the Pyramid Gem, in which case it seems like she got taken out/corrupted in that big battle at the strawberry field.
Still curious to see how the rebels get portrayed. I feel like the Pink Diamond stuff's gonna be more complicated than that.
>Sapphire came to tell them to stop this shit
>Rose sends Ruby to do the talking
>Ruby's too headstrong to listen
>Ends up winning over Sapphy's trust through her naive optimism.
>but Molisee loves to go off model and you get some weird drawings sometimes
Yeah and it's the opposite of Lamar's stiff-as-fuck drawings I don't get how you would confuse them
Garnet had some TINY ASS hands in Future Vision
On one hand, It should be interesting to see Gen World and how Ruby and Sapphire were like before.
On the other hand, I've kind of grown tired of Garnet, as a character, though I know that won't be a popular though.
Why the fuck did you let yourself get corralled there in the first place.
>, considering the four prominent figures are colored white, pink, blue, and yellow.
The pink one is very clearly Rose... holding up a pink diamond shape, as if using it to protect herself from the blue figure.
Maybe Rose used Pink Diamond's gem to power some sort of superweapon, but it backfired and caused the corruption?
Yeah I know, I'm saying our Rose's rebellion might have made Homeworld decide to scrap the whole line, maybe even round up any existing models and kill them. But it's possible that they're too pragmatic for that?
Also at this point I'm not comfortable assuming any gem is unique, except maybe Diamonds.
More than PD not being on the mural, the sheer lack of Pink Diamond in anything we've seen is more of why I still don't think it's as simple as "Rose killed Pink Diamond"
Literally the only signs of her existance we've seen are the old symbol and pearl's spacesuit
and some people say those damn statues, but I still think those are too circumstantial.
But the other diamonds we've seen have had the new symbol, the mural, the outright name mention of YD,
those statues again, signs of blue and yellow diamond loyal gems, etc.
Frankly, it looks like she's been erased on both ends, homeworld and earth. That's why it seems like there's something more.
I HATE people that read this thing so wrong.
Corruption ISN'T what was happening in Reformed. They practically said so with the fact that Amethyst fell apart.
Corrupted monsters are both screwed in the gem, and they're overflowing with some kind of energy that allows those monsterous forms to remain stable.
Amethyst clearly still had control and choice in her reforming, even at the monster point, but she couldn't hold it because it was unsustainable.
They're clearly different situations.
Peridot had never heard of the Crystal Gems, meaning the leaders most likely said they won the war and the rebellion was squashed and erased all known history of the Gems involved.
Except we've only seen a few corruptions that have had screwed up gems, the ice monster and the worm one. Every other one had pretty standard gem designs with no noticeable flaws.
We've also seen pink diamonds on Sardonyx's shoes, which is really weird seeing as it's not even kind of present on Garnet and Pearl's current designs.
It's also really weird that the Pyramid has the current three-symbol design, even though it's presumably been there a long-ass time.
Maybe there was no Pink Diamond, and the four-diamond logo in the sky arena, was almost a heretical thing, "elevating" Rose to the level of diamond?
It's probably a batch process. You mix up some quartz juice and inject it, then get out a ratio based on the input. A shit-ton of Smoky Quartzes, a gaggle of Amethysts, half a squad of Jaspers, then a handful of assorted Rose Quartzes and Citrines.
Or maybe it's just entirely random based of the mineral composition of the area you seed, who the fuck knows.
>Exploring long-term psychological effects of fusion
>Ruby and Sapphire are so dysfunctional on their own because of the unnaturally long duration of their fusion
Pearl is so fucked up and needy because she was part of a fusion experiment on homeworld before she was rescued by Rose
Garnet joined up because Rose began putting her into a "recovery program" for Ruby and Sapphire to exist independently again
Amethyst chooses to be unexpectedly small because being larger would make her look more like a massive homeworld fusion, and Rose didn't want Pearl and Garnet to be exposed to such imagery during their recoveries
No, the pyramid was a recent thing. Notice that it had no growth, and Pearl seemed shocked that it was there. I still think that it was an escape pod of sorts, and the Gem inside will be important later on.
There have been Steven Universe threads on /co/ constantly all week and every single one has been better than the average /sug/. Keep it where it belongs and good riddance
I know we'll need the general again to maintain the peace once there's new eps to talk about so the board doesn't get flooded - just let me dream a bit
I don't know, I assume the reason corrupted gems can sustain their monstrous forms is they free up more processing power by having their mental programs operating on base instinct only, the cost of which is that if their programming is dumbed down, they don't remember how to revert to normal.
>That's why it seems like there's something more.
Rose kills PD, tells Homeworld: "I beat PD's ass and her armies recognize me as their new leader. You must, as well."
To which Homeworld responded: "Fuck you, the position of Pink Diamond has been eliminated. We're a triumvirate now."
>I still think that it was an escape pod of sorts, and the Gem inside will be important later on.
>Yellow Diamond accidentally (or intentionally) corrupts White Diamond
>sticks her in a pod, leaves her on Earth
>secretly replaces her with a Cubic Zirconia or a Diamondelle
>if Yellow Diamond can find a cure for her, great
>if not, all evidence of wrongdoing will be gone when the Cluster emerges anyway
One Diamond down, a fake Diamond in her pocket, and a Cluster to help her destroy the only remaining Diamond between herself and sole rule of Homeworld.
She's the hero that Gemkind deserves.
Their gems are fine, but they have a huge excess of energy and they are clearly forced into these large monster forms upon reforming.
That makes it seem more like something affecting the "mind" inside the gem. It's not just "they reformed too fast" otherwise a reboot via poofing and keeping them closed off should give the time to regather sentience, like it seemed to do with Peedle here.
But she still had a monster form. She just had her wits about her instead of raging about like before.
Also, there's no way there wasn't some outside influence to cause the corruption considering how there's SO MANY of them. Like, 5000 years worth, worldwide.
If it was something they do to themselves, it wouldn't have been so widespread like that, it'd be a process that takes time like it did with Amy and they'd likely put a stop to it after the first few.
>still caring about SU
Seriously I don't get why so few people seem to grasp that Rose Quartz being a Quartz and Rose Quartz being "Pink Diamond" aren't mutually exclusive. It's always seemed pretty obvious to me - if the other Diamonds gave such and important leadership position to a non-Diamond do you think they'd admit they were giving a leadership position to a non-Diamond? I could be wrong, I'm not really too concerned about the specifics of this whole theory considering how little we actually know, I'm more just surprised I never see anyone else guess at what seems to be a pretty obvious work around to this whole "problem"
Pearl seemingly embracing the symbol pretty much clinches it for me though, why would she care about it unless it was Rose's somehow?
Wow, someone still sticking by that old theory. I was the one that kept posting huge greentexts about it way back when.
If she was corrupted by YD, I don't think she was sent to Earth by YD.
If it is an escape pod, White Diamond did it to herself and went to Earth looking for Rose.
The pyramid was powered by the gem, but unlike Lapis' prison, the Gem wasn't held there by some crazy magical force. It just smiled and released itself when it saw Steven (or more likely felt Rose's gem).
If it was really modern, it could have come during Steven's lifetime, explaining why Rose never dealt with it and why it was Steven's first serious mission.
And it'd also explain YD's sudden increase in interest in the Cluster shit since there's now just Blue Diamond in her way of total rule of Gemkind.
>Seriously I don't get why so few people seem to grasp that Rose Quartz being a Quartz and Rose Quartz being "Pink Diamond" aren't mutually exclusive.
"Diamond" just being a title has always been a possible theory, as is an elected Gem fusing with a Bismuth to form a Diamond.
The Pink Diamond Bismuth is inside Lion, so Homeworld can't make a new Pink Diamond. Makes sense that they'd remove her from the emblem.
What I figured was the pyramid was there a long time, it's just that Garnet only found the key recently (though it could have been she found it at some point after Steven was born, but she did foresee that Rose's gem was needed).
Well, they're obviously going to find out that Peridot's message went through, possibly because Pearl kept fixing the hub.
This might also be the make or break moment for Peridot, where she has to choose where her alliances truly lie.
It's probably going to be either Steven hearing about
>Yellow Diamond sends a return message to Peridot and it explains what the CGs really were to Gemkind, horrible rebels that caused a massive conflict and set them back for millenia or
>that message telling Peridot to wait and that they'd be there to help before the cluster emerges and the Gems decide to not tell her/start plotting to get rid of Peridot to ward off the YD forces in front of/in earshot of Steven
Or both. Just something to show Steven how ruthless the Gems really can be when it comes to protecting Earth.
But none of them have truly caused him to have a crisis about believing in them yet. Sounds like something serious actually happens.
I could honestly see the episode being about Peridot betraying them.
Actually considering the title of the previous episode, maybe Peridot betrays them when flying to the moon and that causes Steven to have his issues.
What would Yellow Diamond say in these circumstances? Like it seems unreasonable for her to think Peridot is capable of defeating the Crystal Gems on her own, and holding that as a condition on letting Peridot leave (or demanding Peridot stay and make sure the Crystal Gems don't stop the Cluster at the cost of her life). It seems like the most she could do would be to say she's sent a ship to pick Peridot up.
>implying i'm concerned over popularity, and not quality
I'm not even getting at anything that complicated, they could have just wanted her on board due to some ability she had (I'm thinking her healing powers or something) and basically just told her "yeah if anyone asks you're a Diamond now, can't have us publicly admitting we need a lower order gem to work with us screwing up our whole rigid caste-based society thing now"
What would Peridot betraying them even be? Like I doubt YD knows Peridot is working with the Crystal Gems at this point, and thus doesn't know that the Crystal Gems know about the Cluster, so she wouldn't order Peridot to sabotage them.
You know, I wouldn't be surprised if Pearls were indoctrinated to love the one who bares them so it makes her love Rose unconditionally. And since Steven both is and isn't kinda rose she has developed a sort of protectiveness of what her indoctrination treats as her master's most precious possession/maternal instinct.
Well maybe decides to betray them to help Homeworld
Or as another anon says, she jacks the ship and leaves them on the moon since she probably still doesn't completely believe that they can stop the cluster
I really hope Peridot doesn't betray them. I want to keep the angry slice of pie, dammit!
No matter how much she's grown as a person, she's still a Homeworld Gem. She yearns for order, to fit back into the machine she was once a cog within. If Yellow Diamond offers her a way back home, she'll take it.
The only difference is that, now, Peridot might offer to take Steven and Amethyst back with her.
The cluster gems fighting the cluster is probably plan B. Plan A is waiting for a chance to get back to the Kindergarten alone and using it to contact homeworld. She was both very eager to drag Steven there for something she could have explained without fixing the communication systems and Garnet made it a point not to let her go to the Kindergarten alone.
Does anyone else think that Malachite will seriously hamper the gems from stopping the Cluster at some point? Like I'm pretty sure both Jasper and Lapis would be in agreement that it would be just desserts for Earth as for Malachite personally? I figure that whether she wants to just sulk until the Earth explodes or flies into space to become a nightmare to the cosmos, she's set either way. The big picture: she's not gonna let the Crystal Gems save the world.
>Does anyone else think that Malachite will seriously hamper the gems from stopping the Cluster at some point?
The easiest way for them to drill down to the center of the Earth is using a deep sea trench as a starting point.
Guess who lives in a deep sea trench?
WOuldn't that require him to defeat Lapis? Whatever it may be I doubt Lapis would be happy.
I've been thinking, maybe maybe Steven would have to really impress Jasper, and get her to want to follow Steven for the sake of following Rose.
One indication, at least, is that her design's been altered. Her whole "floaty fingers" look can't have been fun to animate, so it's quite possible that she lost the limb enhancers to make her easier to draw.
Take Avatar, for instance. Zuko went from being an intermittently-appearing villain to dominating the average episode's B-plot around the point that he stopped wearing all that crazy Fire Nation armor and topknot and started wearing regular clothes and messy hair.
I can only hope.
>Malachite (accidentally?) injures Steven and the combat pauses
>all of a sudden there's a bright flash of light to the side
>cue THE BEAST
>Alexandrite goes full Eva beast mode and starts tearing into Malachite while Steven watches in horror
Not going to happen, but it'd be so cool.
This is probably what would happen if she hurt Steven.
Then Malachite gets poofed, the gems bubble Jasper and maybe don't bubble Lapis. :/ But that ends with Jasper out of the picture. Maybe lapis and Jasper being fused for so long, they got to know eachother? And now Jasper sees things in a different light?
I don't know, Sugilite being poofed didn't poof Amethyst and Garnet, they were fine.
I think unless she's stabbed by one of those gem-tazers (whatever did happen to the one Peridot had that was being gripped by Steven?), Jasper and Lapis would still have their physical forms after separation.
I want Jasper to be an interesting thing for Steven to deal with.
>Clearly wouldn't want to crush her though the Gems/Lapis probably would
>Shouldn't be able to convince her to betray her people/join them
>Imprisoning her forever would make him upset too cause it'd be like Lapis
>Steven having to tackle the tough idea of dealing with someone that will not be his friend and will keep hurting others.
>she's an asshole soldier, not a psychopath.
Yeah, nah. She's totally going to want to keep punching them in the face after getting free.
There's no reason for her to turn away from homeworld or show any kindness/sentiment towards the CGs or Lapis.
She's a soldier. She'll keep fighting.
She did the voice of the orange thing in Barney.
I shit you not. The show literally has a Barney connection.
I was thinking something along those lines too.
>Rose starts leading the gem rebellion.
>Gems start to think of her as a diamond.
>Elevate her to the status of a diamond, even though she isn't.
>Akin to revering a living human as a god.
>Diamonds see this as a threat to their power.
>Go out of their way to destroy any symbolism depicting Rose as a Diamond during the war.
>This is why anything resembling Pink Diamond has been destroyed.
>Rose kills Pink Diamond.
>A Diamond has never been defeated by a non-Diamond before.
>Gems elevate her to Diamond status.
>She's already pink so they don't have to change much.
>Only major difference after this is that Homeworld Diamonds change their insignia and pretend that Pink Diamond was never a thing.
Alternate scenario, injuring Steven is what causes Malachite to unfuse, when Lapis' "Protect Steven" protocol and Jasper's "Beat Up Everyone" protocol conflict.
Though if we DO ever see Alexandrite in action, what would you all want to see as a combined gauntlet+whip+spear weapon? My vote is
Maybe it was Rose who gave herself the title as a way of legitimizing her claim to Earth. They're all "only a diamond can have territory" and she's like "well, then I'm the fourth Diamond now"
Kusari-Gama seems nice. Though I'm fond of somehow the weapons combining into a chainsaw.
my god, thank you for informing me about this
i'll add this to my big wall chart of shows that are tangentially connected to barney so i don't make the mistake of watching it again
>Lapis was part of the team of negotiators
>She gets trapped in the mirror at the same time Ruby and Sapphire fall in love
So that would mean that if the gems inject corundum into a kindergarten, they're mostly going to get a nice batch of different colored Sapphires, mostly blue of course, but some violet, green, even pink is okay. But every so often you get a goddamned Ruby.
Holy shit, this is going to be a huge lore episode.
I meant it was an episode done in the usual style, just with different, "earlier" character designs.
>corrupted gems are overcooked runts from the Kindergarten
>Garnet not wearing her glasses
I know I'm in the minority but I prefer her with her glasses on, I don't think many boarders can get her eyes right.
In the OP clip for example, her third eye is too big and bulgy and she doesn't look adorable like she should
>I guess that's the writers way to give her some kind of "bubbly" personality
Is she just really stoic around Amethyst and Pearl because that is what she thinks leadership is like?
No. Pearl is needy because she is a Pearl. They are made to need the approval of an audience. That's why Opal is her only balanced fusion. Amethyst doesn't care what you think.
Amy is small because overcooked. She is small and weak for a Quartz, the warrior class. A non-defective Amethyst should be around Jasper's size.
There are some pretty good fan edits around
personally I'm thinking Jasper will come out of the whole Malachite situation incredibly damaged both mentally and emotionally(cause I can't imagine anyone coming out of a multiple month long forced fusion and be all right in the brain), with this being the lead in for a potential Jasper "Redemption" arc with Steven having to help her get past that trauma
I mean I feel like it was something they thought about and decided to tease now because they didn't know if they could get that far with seasons and if they did they'd bring that story out. I say that because right now there's nothing that really connects to it so I don't see it being brought up very soon.
Given the pattern of previous episodes (Peridot getting on with Steven, then Pearl, then Amythyst), I think this is gonna be the one where Peridot comes to understand/trust Garnet (if not entirely, than at least a little more).
Even though it's Garnet telling the story to Steven, it could be that the episode ends revealing that Peridot had been listening in the whole time.
If we do then we do and what I think doesn't matter but from here it doesn't FEEL like that's going to happen. Of course it could be the plot of this next episode but I feel like they're going to reveal Lion's deal first before getting to that.
Finally an opportunity to post this again.
>tfw you will never be Garnet's American boy.
If Garnet is an emergent life form and not just the summa of Ruby and Sapphire, it is conceivable she will fall in love someday with someone they don't necessarily like.
Someone like another fusion in the same situation, perhaps. That might lead to a reticence to unfuse for different reasons than the members not wanting to. Is Garnet stronger than Ruby and Sapphire?
What if a situation like that led to the taboo on non-combat fusions?
That would be interesting, can Garnet actually love someone?
I mean, she's a separate entity from both Sapphire and Ruby. Just because she's the embodiment of a relationship doesn't mean she can't feel those things
That's a square, the worst of all basic shapes. It ruins pizza.
Bullshit. Jasper could go toe-to-toe with Garnet, but nothing has suggested that Amethyst is close to being as strong as Garnet.
It's time to add Sardonyx's VA to that.
Voice acting has changed a lot. 20 years ago, voice actors were expected to be able to do many different voices because they were expected take on multiple roles in a cartoon. They were expected to actually be, y'know, skilled in their craft.
It's very different for cartoons with 100+ characters than for cartoons with like 10.
Also SU is using guest voices as kind of a gimmick, so most on that list aren't even mainly VAs.
And then there is the small thing about SU being far less cartoony and more character driven, so strange and funny voices won't really do.
If she is any strong she has the absolutely worst weapon and attitude about it.
Because she never really seems to know what the fuck to do in a fight and her weapon cannot transmit any strength at all.
She casually cuts through metal and old gemtech with that whip. It clearly isn't what we would recognize as a whip.
And I never said she was smart, just strong as fuck; which she is.
>And then there is the small thing about SU being far less cartoony
You're watching a children's cartoon. It's not more or less cartoony than other cartoons. It's a cartoon.
While she clearly is strong, compared to human standards, she fails a lot in fights. Which is odd for a designated warrior. Her effectiveness is no higher than Pearl's and her fighting is apparently an absurd concept to Homeworld.
I find it hard to really quantify how strong they are in terms of raw lifting capability, but Amy jobs like a sucker most of the time.
Just because a cartoon is less surreal or more grounded doesn't make it less cartoony. Hell, SU had a perfectly good crossover with UG.
Would you stop acting like SU is less cartoony in order to justify why you enjoy it?
In a way, sure.
But SU really does cover more emotional depth and relies less on cartoon logic than comparable shows.
For example wounds have consequences, emotional impressions and opinions persist to move the status quo over time.
Which makes it more cartoony. The crossover episode should have made that clear when the reality suspension UG thrives on was an insanity-inducing experience for the Gems.
>Just because a cartoon is less surreal or more grounded doesn't make it less cartoony
You obviously have a completely different definition of the term because I would say that is precisely what it means.
I personally measure "cartoony" on an inverse scale to "distance from Animaniacs". Not necessarily in style, but in amount of symbolism instead of real object, isolation of consequences to single scenes or sequences, suspension of reality for comical effect.
So, if in SU Steven was to bash Connie over he head with a huge hammer, she would not ge flattened with an accordion effect and she would not be just fine in the next scene.
Pearl had mentioned how it was unusual for her to go into fight old when she was only a few thousand years, so it seems significant for gems not to fight when they're first formed. And Amethyst had to go actively search with humans to wrestle with because she wanted to fight with somebody.
If she's meant to be warrior class they probably wanted to keep her out of it, as she's meant to be on the gem worlds side and not overcooked.
I don't get this "cartoony" argument but as far as I can see it started being about why SU doesn't have a single VA doing a bunch of wacky voices and of course because you're expected to be able to take a character seriously every once in a while.
Most of the extra characters that the Simpsons cast voices are just one wacky line by a background character and maybe a minor character whose gimmick is "wacky accent" having an episode dedicated to them that nobody enjoyed.
I like to imagine that she still does watch him, but not all the time, she just takes a small peek to check that he's still there. How else did they find out that Steven was at the warp pad?
Because the light is ALWAYS good and White Diamond is WHITE so White Diamond is the purest of the gems and never invoved with such foolish affairs.
I would dispute your reading of that.
It compares something to an imaginary "standard cartoon", which would be something along the lines of old WB strips for most people, I imagine. Anyone on /co/ would know about the differences between shows, but this is about cultural perception. And the term "cartoon" is cemented in the public conscious as Tom & Jerry, Bugs Bunny, Donald Duck etc.
Like most words describing media this has no set definition you can really point to, but "is an animated video format" is certainly not sufficient to call something cartoony by definition. Especially if one defines the word as a relative trait that can be attributed to things that are not cartoons. Your "Are you a drawn video format (especially aimed at young audiences)? y/n" understanding of the word is not helpful at all there.
Take for example the chase scenes in Blues Brothers. Those are pretty cartoony. As is the end sequence where they are encircled by an unreal amount of armed forces who hold their guns right into their faces. That is "in the style of a cartoon" (a very lacking definition if you ask me).
Now on the other hand we have the scene where Pearl tells Steven about how much she misses Rose and how it was in the war. That is not at all what you think of when you say "cartoony". More along the lines of "Oscar bait".
Non-commitment is a valid decision.
To not force a "voice of God" decision that has little benefit but forces a non-human relationship into human terms to the detriment of the viewer's immersion, that is a valid and justified decision.
Except that they found her after the war, when the CGs' role had pretty much changed from war to pest control. She's not had military training because she's only ever fighting the one brainless monster at a time instead of a trained army.
A fight would be either stalemate or Sapphire wins.
Dammit, I want Peridot to get her limb enhancers back, she doesn't have to wear them all the time but I just want her to have them. The 'angry little slice of pie' is fun and all, but I want badass Peridot back at least occasionally.
So, do you think
-One of them is a rebel, the other a negotiator?
-Sapphire is the negotiator, Ruby is her escort?
Based on their outfits. Sapphires being more refined and with a obvious diamond symbol, and Ruby's being a lot more simple, lacking any symbols, I'd say Sapphire is the negotiator, and Ruby is the rebel.
>Lapis is part of the team of diplomats
>She finds out Ruby and Sapphire are in love
>Since they don't want anyone finding out, they trap Lapis in the mirror
Based on the promo image I assumed they were the "small team of negotiators".
But then considered that maybe Sapphires are built to be diplomats. Cool, emotionless, realist, future vision.
But alone they're prone to be victims of shooting the messenger. So they get a Ruby, whose job is to be their shield.
I'd say Ruby is a rebel, Sapphire is part of the diplomacy team.
Although I find the fact they dispatched a diplomatic team odd- I always thought it was Rose Diamond just up and rebelling, I never really considered it might have been protracted and involved negotiations.
Fuck maybe Rose isn't even leading the rebellion at this point and joined later.
So much lore, so little time
However, Garnet says "I'll tell you how they first MET." And from the sneak peek, we don't see the Homeworld, where the first meeting of the diplomat and her guard could take place.
Although Lapis would have straight murdered Garnet if that was the case, she just seemed kind of vague about revenge really.
Does anyone here want to see Ruby and sapphire fight it out?
Than fight fuck it out
I assumed Rose was a diamond with her own military forces, who rebelled and took control of Earth.
Then homeworld assaulted Earth a few times, took massive loses, then just abandoned it and covered up all references.
The idea that there was any space for compromise in this. But there are quite a few ways this could go down; Homeworld says they will give amnesty but after that they'll destroy them, offer to split the planet, offer to Rose personally etc.
That and I always got the vibe Homeworld was very 'with us or against us'- and just crushed rebellion or sedition if it ever happened. But again, we don't know the context
I think its more a 'Why the hell are you rebelling?' houscall then a serious offer for peace.
Homeworld is just confused why exactly Gems are rebelling. This might not have happened before, or its so rare they want to see what they can do with the situation
>People think Ruby would win
Future vision plus Ruby would just charge in head first.
Sapphire would win easily.
>Ruby and Sapphire starts fighting
>Sapphire gets the upperhand and just fucking with Ruby
>Ruby gets pissed off and lands a punch on Sapphire
>Sapphire gets over 200% mad and tries to murder Ruby and charges at her
>Ruby charges head first
>They accidentally kiss
You know what's also been long overdue? Malachite.
So either Sapphire can poof her fast enough or Ruby will just melt all of her attacks than.
Just how fucking mad can Ruby get?
>Garnet just starts punching herself over and over again.
>Ruby and Sapphire are fighting
>Sapphire says something about torturing her friends and harvesting them
>Even Rocks start melting around her
>yfw the hiatus gets extended by a month like last time
I doubt it'll happen.
However, if the bomb ends with a hiatus, then I'll be mad.
>What an absolute non-answer.
It is an answer. It tells you exactly why they haven't tried to really specify and explain it.
It's like asking the magician how he did a trick during a show and expecting them to go back and actually show you step by step how the trick was performed.
It ruins the whole point.
All this talk has got me thinking.
can Ruby use fire to fly?
No, it doesn't. It would if Garnet was into him. But she wasn't.
>>She has a level of humanity in her still
How about Ruby's weapon - did we get to see that? Anyway it's probably a fan. Sapphy's I mean.
>TFW 'Stronger than you' is literally 'a song of ice and fire'
Because she foresees what's going to happen? But what if she foresees what Ruby will do but isn't fast or strong enough to stop it?
But you do realize that when that happens, the fusion will be ridiculously overpowered. At least going by cartoon rules. Although it probably will go wrong the first time.
Surely a Ruby Sapphire fight would just be a stalemate? Sapphire can predict all Ruby's accacks, sure, but Ruby can just melt all of Sapphire's attacks as they come.
I hope we get to see Sapphire's weapon
Most military conflicts, especially civil ones, also involve ongoing negotiations to cease hostilities/negotiate cease fires/etc.
It's just often the case that one side (or both) makes demands that the other refuses to abide by and the conflict continues until one side gives up.
You usually don't hear about it in the news because it's not as dramatic.
>the fusion will be ridiculously overpowered
You're implying they already aren't ridiculously overpowered. And I want to see Steven getting a better control over his powers and learning how they work, he's learned how to materialise his shield and now he needs to learn how to use his healing spit, shapeshifting, and fusion powers. Plus it could strengthen the bond between Steven and the Gem he fuses with greatly once they do fuse, and/or it could provide some great character growth to both of them.
>"This will pass. She'll eventually burn herself out"
That'd be Sapphire's strategy I think, get her madder and keep dodging until Ruby is burnt out, like bullfighting
>an then can finish her off with her secret rapier weapon
Thats how I imagine it will go, the diplomatic side and the Crystal gems reach and understanding, and then some Homeworld military force will attack and thank the diplomat team for giving them the element of surprise
While I know it (maybe) represents Steven,here's best diamond.
So let me guess they start negation while fist fighting and They are in perfect sync with one another and Ruby headbutts her and they fuse in garnet
Here, I found a bigger version of that.
>Ruby = strong but irascible
>Sapphy = very capable but "cold"
>Garnet = Strong and Tempered (see: tempering in metallurgy, applying cold to a hot metal to make it stronger)
>Pearl = very capable but low self worth, looks for approval
>Sardonyx = Strong, but very Complacent, outgoing and full of herself. This is what happens when you give confidence to a Pearl.
>Pearl = very capable but low self worth, looks for approval
>Amy = lazy fuck, doesn't give a shit about other people
>Opal = Capable and balanced, pretty chill
thanks, Opal was what was missing in here
And takes some photos with her.
I think its either one of two possibilities:
Rose is Pink Diamond. She has powers and abilities beyond anything we have seem was a great and terrible power among the stars, then got a bad conscious and rebelled on Earth before ultimately sacrificing herself in a kind of 'do-over' to make Steven.
Or, Rose + Bismuth is Pink diamond.
Rose killing Pink Diamond is unlikely, we known that Rose is pink, all her signs are pink and from what we've seen her being pink diamond is the most likely thing (although granted they could still write it as Rose killed Pink diamond, but I doubt they will)
>jasper and lapis unfuse
>lapis is praised for her heroic efforts
>jasper gets shitstomped and bubbled
>never talked about again
>jasper and lapis unfuse
>jasper crushes lapis
>jasper finds steven and connie playing outside
>crushes them too
>enters the house and finds pearl and amethyst
>they're shocked by blood
>crushes pearl and amethyst in two seconds flat
if only. fuck garnet and her meddling future vision.
Lets make this happier
>jasper and lapis unfuse
>jasper crushes lapis
>jasper finds steven
>they have hot amazon sex
>she finds the rest of the gems
>massive amazon orgy
>they live happily ever after
Something that'll be interesting to see is whether or not Homeworld uses the 4 diamond symbol at this point 5,750 years ago.
Clearly, when they got there 6,000 years ago, they still did.
Yet any more modern structure seems to only have the 3.
The data book said the war happened 5,500 years ago. Most likely the rebels were around, but not a threat till something pushed things to the edge at 5,500.
It'd be fascinating if that was Rose as the Pink Diamond defecting or Pink Diamond being murdered.
Cause that'd mean we'd have the catalyst for Rose finally going full war on her own kind.
There had to be a straw that broke the camel's back.
I don't mind overpowered... but I think that means it won't happen until things are considerably more dire than they are now.
I still say it is this...
Completely dominated by Rose. Not because she is dominant (except for her naturally powerful personality) but because of Pearl's submission.
If she could stay Rainbow Quartz forever...
I wonder if she ever dared dream of that, seeing Garnet?
Seriously? This is just a sample of what is up right now
There are 3 others up too including the ol /gfg/
Please many modern VA's are completely incapable of affecting more than a couple voices at most and more often than not only one.
Making it even worse is that voice actor unions are atrociously entitled and believe for example that VA's should be making more from their role in videogames than the programmers or directors.
Well, what do you think it would be like with Steven?
As for dire, they've got a huge green fusion beast at the bottom of the sea and a WMD at the core of the planet, I'd say that throwing in fusions at this point would be appropriate.
6000 years ago, the first sedentary societies were just emerging (Well, maybe not - Jericho is pretty fucking old)... it would have been a lot easier to sell the conquest to an uncaring public.
"These creatures are barely sentient. Would you call ants worthy of our special care because they build large nests?"
>Well, what do you think it would be like with Steven?
Awkward. Fusing with someone she dearly loves, and who is basically the permafusion of the one she loved above all, and the one who took her away.
But I think her mind would dominate... she is far more trained than Steven is. I wonder if the fact he is physically smaller than she is would play into it?
>Be 9 year old me
>Have a bad stomach for 2 weeks
>Doctors say I might be allergic to milk
>I love O'boy (chocolate milk) and will never stop drinking it
>Wake up one morning with extreme stomach pain
>Spend entire morning on toilet
>No more pains thank god
>Go out for breakfast, make tuna toast for me and my 5 year old bro
>Fucking delicious, but something is missing
>I crave O'boy now, my earlier stomach pains are completely forgotten
>Mmmmh fucking O'boy man
>A few hours pass, playing mario kart with brother
>He sucks, I'm laughing at him, although he's only 5, he should know how to throw bananas
>Laughing really hard by now, can't breath
>mfw he's driving the wrong direction
>I win the round, waiting for everyone to end the lap
>5 year old bro haven't even driven his first lap yet
>My sides are now sprawling on the floor
>I get this brilliant idea to fart in his face (done this many times before)
>I pull down my underwear and put my ass-cheeks towards his face
>Let out a huge fart
>Fart is followed by liquid shit
>My peacefully playing brother is now getting sprayed with shit
>A few seconds pass, bro looks like he's about to cry
>Suddenly he screams louder than I've heard anyone scream before
>Dad heard the scream
>He comes in and sees his youngest kid sprayed with shit, crying
>I stand there without underwear, shocked
>Lil' bro is crying
>I began to cry
>Grounded for 2 weeks
I haven't drank O'boy ever since, although I'm not allergic to milk.
At least post a link to where you'll be posting and give fair warning in advance, so that people can avoid /co/ until they've watched them. People always casually throw around spoiler images when an episode leaks.
I could see Steven's size making their fusion smaller (about the same size as Opal). But I have to wonder if their fusion would be aware of Pearl's and Rose's fusion, and if she is still in the new fusion's mind.
Yeah, we largely didn't give a fuck about the massive pain in the ass that was building permanent buildings and setting up agriculture back then. Human population was also tiny at the time for that reason.